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Submitted by Thad Beversdorf via First Rebuttal blog,

Today I was debating the idea of Western domination.  And one of the things that came up was the idea of how ‘lucky’ the world is that China and Russia have been able to  maintain a sense of independence from the Western front.  Imagine a world completely unchallenged by Western dominance, which we know is precisely the goal of our ambitious Western leaders.  The goal, as stated by many Western leaders including George Bush Senior whilst President in an address to the nation, is to come to some New World Order of centralized control, with unified laws and principles enforced from one power centre.

Currently Western foreign and monetary policy are controlled and enforced by this central power centre.  That is clear given that the policy objectives are unified whilst their implications are broad and even conflicting.  What I mean by that is while the policy is embraced by all Western nations the implication of the policies go from being negligible, like here in the US, to economically crushing like in Europe.  So if foreign policy decisions were fragmented amongst Western nations the harsh implications of such policies would prevent those respective nations from supporting such policy decisions.  But the policies are supported, if not by the people of those nations (refer to farmers burning down of the Ministry of Agriculture building in France), then by their respective political classes and thus must be being decided as a central power.

Given the desperate position the Western rulers are willing to put French and German farmers (and so many more European industries) in for the ‘perceived greater good’, imagine the lack of representation for any group or individual under the thumb of a global central power.  Especially without the distraction of overcoming challengers like the Chinese and Russians.  Consider the difficulty just here in America, reportedly the beacon of democracy around the world (I choked that out btw), of making the people’s will relevant to the legislative process.  If we were being ruled from some global centre 5000 miles away it would be virtually impossible to be heard let alone to impact policy.  Things like tax policies would be based on the needs of people we will never know or understand and our incomes and capital would be pillaged without accountability to those pillaging.

All wealth creation by the working class would be vacuumed into some General Fund that would be unexplained by those who control it.  Similar to the Commerce Dept General Fund that takes in all those ‘fines’ from the banking sector…. about $350 billion over the past 5 years.  What ever comes of that money?? Well we will never know because that money is the proverbial rainy day fund that is outside of budgetary line items; a magical cookie jar if you will for whenever a politician gets a sweet tooth.  Isn’t it curious we never hear where that money taken as punishment for crimes committed against we the people goes?  What a fantastic little practice of racketeering.  And how great that practice of racketeering would grow under a central global government unaccountable to the faces of those being oppressed.  But I digress.

Back to the point.  The fact that Russia and China remain outside the event horizon of Western domination has literally saved citizens of the world from absolute enslavement.  Yet we are saturated with propaganda that would have us believe the promise land of a New World Order must be our goal and will be attained when the Russians, who have been labelled one of the world’s top three dangers, are safely caged.   And so our military will attempt to constrain the Russian people like a fully lucid person admitted to an insane asylum against their will by those who have the ‘moral authority’ to do so in the name of what they say is best.  However, if it were not for Russia and China all that propaganda and aggression would be pointed against those of us not willing to relinquish our natural rights of freedom to those who believe they have the natural right to take it from us.  In short, our lives would be devoid of any sense of freedom as it was promised to us by our founding fathers.

And so before you sign up for seminars like William Kristol’s Tikvah Advanced Studies Institute on the origns of war, perhaps you should do a bit of research on your own.  Kristol’s Tikvah site discusses Donald Kagan’s book titled ‘Origins of War: And the Preservation of Peace’.  In the book, Kagan (father-in-law to Victoria Nuland, the Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs at the United States Department of State who was unknowingly recorded planning the Ukranian coup), suggests that “To too many in the modern world, the word power has an unpleasant ring to it”.  I literally laughed out loud as his slight perversion of the truth is so unintendedly slapstick comical yet so coy it makes me picture Kagan as Wile E. Coyote.

If Kagan wasn’t either a liar or an idiot, or both, the quote would have read “Regardless of the times, the word power has an unpleasant ring to it to those not in power”.  You have to love these self proclaimed “intellectuals” (seriously that’s what they call themselves in every bio I could find – intellectuals! – I can only assume W. E. Coyote would be proud).  And so before spending money on a seminar to learn the origins of war, allow me to offer you the following evidence for free.

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For nothing says preservation of peace like recommending America “fight and decisively win multiple, simultaneous major theatre wars”, against, well apparently the enemy is irrelevant.  According to the above key findings from yet another lobby effort by the world’s #1 armchair soldiers, William Kristol and Donald Kagan, it is recommended that America send its young men and women to kill and be killed against various arbitrary ‘enemies’, in this report sent to the Clinton Administration in September 2000.  But don’t get all worked up.  Peace and free-dum luv’n Willy Kristol recommends this in the name of peace preservation, in fact, he suggests it is precisely because the US was in the midst of the most peaceful period of the previous 100 that America needed to start some wars.

This is the kind of insane sadistic and soulless moron that will be setting policy for the central single authority called the New World Order.  And so don’t hold it against me if I suggest that it is straight from whatever mystical order defines the laws of the universe that Russia and China have remained independent of Western authority.  The fact that Russia, having one of the few untapped energy reserves large enough to feed the Chinese industrial beast, managed to fend off her enemies over the past 100 years, which have been plentiful and powerful, is an alignment of the moons that could only be divine in nature.

So before we succumb to the media muppets touting the message of the morons like Willy Kristol, let’s please take this slowly.  And for those of you who generally get your current news from mainstream media don’t let the silence lull you into believing we are not right this minute sending vast stacks of cash and weaponry to engage the Russians in war.  We are.  Mindfully understand that Russia’s independence and China’s ability to humble Western ambitions have been absolutely fundamental to the slowing of attrition of freedom throughout the Western world.  Believe it or not we would be frightfully further down the rabbit hole had it not been for those bumps in the yellow brick road toward the New World Order.

I caution you to acknowledge that the Western philosopher kings repeatedly call on us serfs to sacrifice our young men and women, to fight faceless, nameless arbitrary enemies and in the name of peace no less.  Kristol and his political goons explicitly recommended just such human sacrifices in black and white directly to the President of the United States in the report above.  And remember it was not more than a year after that report was delivered to the President that the great catalyst event that paved the way for us to fight the faceless, nameless “Terrorism”, took place.  And note these are the same folks that signed those other reports I wrote about recently in the well received, “The Most Essential Lessons of History that No One Wants to Admit”.  The same folks that were appointed to positions like Secretary of Defense and Chairman of the Defense Policy Board just months before the catalyst event for the multiple wars against faceless, nameless terrorists.  Quite a bloody coincidence to say the least.

If you are at all on the fence about any of this ask yourself, how many wars has Russia started in the past 20 years, what percent of Russia’s total budget expenditures is allocated to military, who is putting who’s military weaponry on who’s borders?  And then think about the absolutely alarming absurdity of the message that America preserve the most peaceful period of the 20th century for the new millennium by starting multiple arbitrary wars, which we’ve now done.  And then remember the careers of the men behind such policies  have been spent finding ways to use America’s wealth and military to benefit Israel.  And they surround themselves with others whose careers have been mired by similar disgraceful self serving agendas (MIC).  Put this latest report in context with the letter and report from my previous article and well we’d have to be the fools Kristol believes us to be not to see that America is being egregiously exploited for the benefit of foreign nations.

Remember “We cannot overestimate the fervent love of liberty, the intelligent courage and the sum of common sense with which our fathers made the great experiment of SELF-GOVERNMENT”.  That is a quote by President James Garfield prior to his assassination by the predecessors of those who manipulate our nation today.  Perhaps we should listen to Putin when he defines Russia as a sovereignty not to be rolled into some mosaic of nations for the purpose of ease of rule.  

Self-government is the gift our founding fathers made possible and out of lack of respect for the sacrifices of the past, the constitutional rights of the present and the freedoms of future Americans we allow it to be traded for a comfortable existence.  We must stop and truly understand the concept of self-government as it was meant to be and then mentally reconcile that with the current state of our government.  

We are parented not represented.  We are enslaved with encroaching laws that are demeaning to rational self sufficient adults.   And by a legislative body that feeds from our bosom, fights with our fists and has buried us in debt to a foreign body who they sold the rights to our currency.  How is this in any way a self-governed society?  We have been captured by a group of fraudulent citizens who control our money, our military and have desecrated our constitution.  It requires that we take back control and punish these traitors appropriately severe so as to deter any future attempts.  This is our obligation, our payback and our paying it forward for the gift that we received but failed initially to respect. 

 

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Fri, 01/16/2015 - 23:25 | 5672888 ekm1
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Another "freedom seeking" libertarian supporting dictators like Putin.

Good dose of humor.

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 23:39 | 5672922 Government need...
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When Russian totalitarianism starts looking attractive, you surely live in a fucked up country.  Just sayin'. 

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 01:39 | 5673105 Self-enslavement
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The Chosenites treat us like we're a bunch of children. We don't even get to exercise our first amendment anymore. Can't mention who these people really are. Can't tell the truth. For example, I can't tell you that there are two types of Government. Type A is when money is printed and GIVEN to the people, and they have freedom, rights and wealth. Type B is when money is printed for the Government only, the people's freedoms, rights and wealth are TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM. The people are held captive. Cops are brainwashed from the time they enter kindergarten. Just like Soldiers. They enslave all of us to our captors. They're not even Homo-Erectus. They're Homo-Parasitus.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 01:58 | 5673183 wee-weed up
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"We Have Been Captured... We Are Parented, Not Represented"

More accurately...

"We Have Been Captured... We Are TAXED, but are NOT Represented"

Fuck CONgress and the Obola White House!

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 04:06 | 5673253 Haus-Targaryen
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I always thought "trolls" or "internet trolls" were similar to the word "nerd" or "dork" in elementary school.  Being a childish way for people on the interwebz to make fun of other people on the interwebz when they didn't like what the first person had to say, and were too lazy/unintelligent to come up with a coherant response.  

However, recently on ZH we have developed a patter that I simply just cannot ignore;

1) Lots of new people whos accounts were all created (from today) 19-30 weeks ago (May/August)

2) All these new people are valliant defenders of the status quo

3) Said people never write more than a sentence or two, and never really contribute to the article, just throw a bomb or two around, and thats it.  

4) Have user names that are all over other political discussion boards doing the exact same thing.  (Google is your friend here fellas)

Makes me wonder and scratch my head a bit.  

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 05:02 | 5673307 Seahorse
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I have noticed this too. It began too suddenly to not be suspicious.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 05:23 | 5673321 chumbawamba
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It is a known fact that the internet has paid trolls.  Some people just have no qualms participating in the exploitation of others--even themselves--where filthy lucre is concerned.

As to the article, I respond with some quotes I believe are pertinent:

It behooves us to remember that men can never escape being governed. Either they must govern themselves or they must submit to being governed by others. If from lawlessness or fickleness, from folly or self-indulgence, they refuse to govern themselves, then most assuredly in the end they will have to be governed from the outside. - Theodore Roosevelt

If we will not be governed by God, we must be governed by tyrants. - William Penn

In our democracy, we govern either by leadership or by crisis. If leadership is not there, make no mistake about it, we will govern by crisis and, right now, we largely govern by crisis. - Leon Panetta

I am Chumbawamba.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 06:17 | 5673349 ParkAveFlasher
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They mightn't be paid trolls, but rather bots scanning the page for linguistic meaning and venturing a logical response according to linguistic programming, however slightly skewed.  Another bot comes along and up arrows.  POOF ... astroturf

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 08:47 | 5673408 clymer
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I am stupid.

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Sat, 01/17/2015 - 14:37 | 5674156 WOAR
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Oooh! Oooh! Do me! Do me!

I haven't looked at my profile for a while. I wonder if it still has that youtube clip to the Battle of the Bulge still up?

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 15:37 | 5674316 Dave Thomas
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LOL Robert Shaw driving his Sturmgeshutz into a bunch of flaming oil drums rolling downhill whilst singing the Panzerleid was one of the gayest ways they coulda made him die.

 

Sun, 01/18/2015 - 05:31 | 5675957 Self-enslavement
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Trolls have been here since day one. Newness is not a symptom of being a troll. For example, m new here because I get kicked of every couple of years. Freedom of speech will get you kicked off Zerohedge faster than anything.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 19:52 | 5674937 Parrotile
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The technology (memory, computational capability, AI) to deliver very credible Astroturf responses (at least on a superficial "first glance" assessment) has matured a LOT over the past very few years. You'll notice that the content / sentence construction of many of these "Trolls" are very similar, and you might also notice that the comments appear almost-simultaneously on many blog sites.

Whilst it would be difficult to "prove" these are not human contributors, this "immediacy of multiple posting" suggests something is afoot, and that something might not be "life as we know it" ;-).

Maybe we are in the very final days before the emergence of "Machines" that fulfill ALL aspects of the Turing Test. Ray Kurzweil is not the only one with interesting opinions on this topic, and then there is the argument that we are all "living" within a virtual reality ( http://www.simulation-argument.com/ ). The possibility (no matter how remote) that we're seeing the evolution of a simulation running WITHIN a higher-order simulation is interesting at least, and may suggest the existence of other higher-order simulacra.

 

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 07:14 | 5673361 cherry picker
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For the reasons you stated I govern myself, lest I be controlled by others for I be a free spirit and my only allegience is to the Great Spirit.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 10:30 | 5673493 new game
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divinely said! the spirits you speak of have origins with the true americans.

they had no written laws.

they followed the laws set by nature(natural law).

they smoked the peace pipe

they wasted not

they only took what sustained life

violations of above meant death(as an outcast)...

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 19:38 | 5674904 Johnbrown
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"When a world government is first formally proposed, the advocates of world government will make promises. They will talk about protections of rights. They will talk about check and balances. They will wax poetically on the amazing “system” they have designed to ensure that their creation will never go off the rails. They will be very confident that they are playing a central role in the salvation of mankind. We must see through their deceptions, deliberate or not, and challenge them. Rest assured, that once power is centralized into a singular body, all of humankind will be enslaved. There will be no Russia for American dissident Edward Snowden to run to. There will be no Equador for Julian Assange. There will be only one refuge for those willing to resist that monolithic state: death.

When our current unstable world order begins degrades, we should be prepared for the attempt to construct a world government. Every thinking person has an obligation to do what he or she can to prevent this from happening. It would be the end of humankind as we know it."

http://www.unitedliberty.org/articles/18852-world-anarch-or-a-world-stat...

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 07:19 | 5673362 overmedicatedun...
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govern no plunder .gov is a racket ! 

"wonder how lowly paid lawmakers leave office filthy rich?

Sen. Dianne Feinstein is showing how it’s done.

The US Postal Service plans to sell 56 buildings — so it can lease space more expensively — and the real estate company of the California senator’s husband, Richard Blum, is set to pocket about $1 billion in commissions.

Blum’s company, CBRE, was selected in March 2011 as the sole real estate agent on sales expected to fetch $19 billion. Most voters didn’t notice that Blum is a member of CBRE’s board and served as chairman from 2001 to 2014."

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 09:08 | 5673420 new game
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Chumb... all great platitude quotes, fine, you get it. what are you doing and can you share your plan? every action adds to the whole.

i say at least peacefully for now:debt free, bank outside the fascist banks, non-materialistic consumption-fucking vanity, eat non gmo, buy local organic, use no pharmacy drug unless life depends(essential oils), live frugally(led lighting ect) and have a plan that takes into consideration the following priciples:

1) guns replace brains

2) gold replaces brains

3) internet blather replaces brains and common sense

4) you are not smater than you are no matter how much you say

5) not realizing all things must pass

6) assuming your family and friends, community will stand shoulder to shoulder with you come the collapse of anything. you are on your own bitch.

7) not realizing everyone lies.

8) not realizing you are safer with nothing, rather than a backload of burdens.

9) not learning how to act like a scared monkey.

in the end stratagey is everything...

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 09:53 | 5673453 nmewn
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Governing by crisis (real or imagined, synthetic or organic) is precisely the way I see it.

I mock it by saying, Look over there, SQUIRRELS!!!

If its not ebola its the swine flu, with the attendant demand "from someone" for government to do something about it! So what does the government do? It appoints an Ebola Czar, sends soldiers to the coast of Liberia and demands we line our children up at the local government school for vaccinations (for the public good dontcha know)...never mind that "the someones" have vested interests in pharmaceutical companies AND growing the state.

If its not the evils of capitalism making the poor poorer its the crony-socialists amassing untold wealth, with the attendant demand "from someone" for government to do something about it! So what does the government do? It issues forth diktats like Dodd-Frank, "shovel ready jobs" and ObamaCare thus insuring stolen national treasure stays right where it is, extends the path of fiscal insanity and demands the young & healthy subsidize the old & sick...never mind that "the someones" have vested interests in the financial, construction and insurance sectors AND growing the state.

What ever happened to my generation saying always question authority and its motives? And how could you raise your children to be so unquestioning of it, have you no shame?

"Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one." - Thomas Paine
Sat, 01/17/2015 - 14:19 | 5674106 SofaPapa
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The generation of "question authority" apparently only believed that until the authority was theirs.

This is the fundamental flaw in the thinking of the majority: "If only government runs the way that I want it to run, peace and prosperity would arrive."

The genius of the founders of the country (since lost on the vast majority) is to realize that it matters not who runs the apparatus.  I include myself in this statement.  If I am put in charge of the government and start enacting laws and policies that I think will solve problems (I do have plenty of ideas!), it will become a disaster just the same as the disaster we are now witnessing.  The original idea at the founding of the country was to create the rules such that the government (any government, no matter who led it) would simply never have the power to implement much control over the everyday lives of the people.

Sadly, an idea is only as good as the people who maintain it.  Both the population and the government have completely lost touch with the simplicity of the idea of strongly limited government.  And so the tyrants are back.  And the world revolves around the sun one more time.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 17:35 | 5674610 nmewn
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Well stated.

If I hear "Do nothing Congress" one more time I'm gonna puke, all I want them to do is start rolling back most of what they have done.

Maybe thats what its going to take, bribery & lobbying them into reverse.

That or guillotines ;-)

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 17:35 | 5674609 OldPhart
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I'd make a good troll.  How do I get a paid for it?

I want my Obamacheck!

Sun, 01/18/2015 - 00:14 | 5675623 StychoKiller
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Well, yer avatar certainly has the looks for the job! :>D

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 07:31 | 5673364 cherry picker
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Your $ at work through NSA/CIA and whatever else the $ funds.

The USA is a literrally a monster created by the people for the people as the people quit giving a damn long ago and are now in IPhone and selfie fantasy land.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 11:46 | 5673665 Bush Baby
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Been reading ZH for years, many of the comments used to be more technical in nature, to the point it was incomprehensible to anyone not in the business, so trolls stuck out like a sore thumb, er I mean sore dick, sorry for being pc there for a minute.

ZH is a great place to get a no nonsense education, there were many articles I didn't understand, and thankfully there are many new ones I don't. I usually take the time to educate myself on subjects I don't understand until I do. That's what draws me here.

ZH ( in my humble opinion ) has also morphed to some degree by taking on more mainstream subjects and once you get into ideals, particularly those that are anti-establishment, the trolls aren't far behind. While the powers that be allow you to publish your site, they know how to discredit and dilute it via trolls. By the time they're done , the comment section will look like ZH readers are all a bunch delusional, racist, phsyco, idiots, leaving ZH no choice but to shut down the comment section.

In the meantime , I love readng the mainstream media articles and then turning to ZH to find out what really f'n happened. OK - some of the articles presented here have a flair for the dramatic, but I also enjoy reading different points of views as long as they're well though out.

 

 

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 11:59 | 5673709 Bush Baby
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Forgot to add, "The down votes will be a quick indicator as to the number of trolls on the site" , but you already knew that.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 15:15 | 5674264 zwanderer
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I noticed this pattern around 7 or 8 years ago, at the time I was a computer hardware enthusiast, and some PR firms started hiring "trolls" just to go on hardware forums and "cheer" for their hardware company like they cheer to a soccer team. The modus operandi is the same, they always force a change to the focus of the discussion, they retort to a lot of ad hominen against the people willing to do a technical discussion based on facts, lots of straw man arguments, a lot of repetition of lies until it becomes "truth" and so on.

Most people don't realise they're actually paid for such behavior, they really believe they're "fanatics", and end up taking the bait and getting pulled down to their level of discussion, which basically kills any knowledge value you can extract from said discussion.

The funny thing, those PR firms weren't much that tech saavy at the begining, and so they got exposed easily, all it took was a forum admin to match the IPs of those "trolls" and they would link them to said PR firms. Ofc the PR firms stepped up on both how to hide their tracks and on troll techniques to successfully change a discussion to their advantage.

But this basically killed any kind of intelligent discussion on most popular hardware forums, nowadays it's just a freaking troll pissing contest fest everywhere, it repeled all the high profile and intelligent people, as they now gather in more "secretive" and less "accessible" places, usually with moderators with a low tolerance for "trolls" or "invite only" approach.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 18:40 | 5674771 Jack's Raging B...
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I would put it further back to very late 2012 and early 2013. It was just before bitcoin when parabolic that Zerohedge more or less ceased being fight club. I recall a major purge around that time. The general nature of the articles changed then too. Less technical and economic in nature and more political. To be fair, evaluating markets in a rational manner just isn't possible anymore. Even still, I have yet to find a consolidated source among the many places I visit as Zerohedge. I just gild myself with greater skepticism when reading in than I did in say...2009.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 04:13 | 5673285 Ayreos
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Have you ever worked for your parents? Giving them most of your income is actually the norm.

I think parented is truly the right word.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 05:31 | 5673329 Your guess is a...
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It won't matter in the great reset. You'll be dead, as will your parents and 95% of all of the people you've met. Bye bye.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 11:56 | 5673651 scrappy
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I prefer the fair and sane SINGLE TAX idea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_George

"George considered it a great injustice that private profit was being earned from restricting access to natural resources while productive activity was burdened with heavy taxes, and indicated that such a system was equivalent to slavery – a concept somewhat similar to wage slavery. This is also the work in which he made the case for a land value tax in which governments would tax the value of the land itself, thus preventing private interests from profiting upon its mere possession, but allowing the value of all improvements made to that land to remain with investors"...fruits of your labor-you keep and do what you wish with your profit...usufruct property rights.

I want to see us create and renew our society, we have the tools to boot up an internet enabled good gov by us, funded by the above single tax. All the other proposals I see out there, well SUCK.

 

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 12:22 | 5673782 Buckaroo Banzai
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Interesting idea, except of course that it's a communist idea. A formula for a successful free market economy doesn't begin with the Federal State owning every square inch of land. Who decides it's "value"? The Feds. Who decides what is an "improvement"? The Feds. Who decides how much to take? The Feds.

Example: "The value of your land is $1 billion. The value of your improvements is $100. Based on our assessments and our tax rate, you owe us $100 million. Oh, you only made $50 million? FUCK YOU, PAY ME. Have a nice day."

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 18:10 | 5674707 Jack's Raging B...
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Exactly. Who appraises the land? How is the tax rate determined? What exemptions, exclusions, or deductions apply if at all and under what circumstance? If you cannot pay the tax on the land, are you truely going to pick up your factory, roads, utility lines, etc. and relocate.....to another taxable property?

When the government owns or controls anything, it owns or controls everything. That includes you. The State is a disease masquerading as a cure for the ills it is responsible for. Rebuke it in all its forms.

Sun, 01/18/2015 - 01:29 | 5675743 ersatz007
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you understand that even as a homeowner or property owner (even if you don't owe a mortgage) you still essentially LEASE that property from the gov't.  try not paying your property taxes for a year or two and see what happens.  if the local, state, or federal gov't decides it needs your property, they can take it...of course they'll pay you for it...but you don't really get a choice as to whether they get to take it.  it's not a communist concept - it's pretty much been the case since there were lords & kings. 

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 12:35 | 5673815 littlewoodenboy
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News flash: the banks have owned us since the Knickerbocker panic...

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 09:57 | 5673464 Hot Shakedown
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Their called ZIONISTs - call a spade a spade.

The driver of the bus wears a yarmulke

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 10:01 | 5673463 Cloud9.5
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The wunderkinder sit in their little eco chambers and dream up a paradigm full of all kinds of little intricacies and dark alleys.  Then they bounce their world view off the sociopaths they have recruited and delude themselves and their sycophants with the aurora of their own intellectual greatness.  The flaw in all of this lays in their own hubris.  They assume they understand the butterfly effect of their machinations. 

The system of human interaction is organic not mechanical.  It is at its core chaotic.  This chaos is far too complex for even the greatest of mortal minds to fathom.  Consequently efforts to impose order on this chaos unbalance the system.   As chaos is suppressed chaotic energy builds in the system. This unbalance results in greater efforts to control.  These greater efforts to control inevitably result in tyranny. 

 

The full force of that tyranny manifests itself just before collapse.  

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 10:17 | 5673501 new game
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you must have sat in the forest(at length) and observed the "chaos" you so profoundly describe...

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 10:25 | 5673511 Cloud9.5
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I’ve been down this road before courtesy of Robert McNamara.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 10:30 | 5673517 new game
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nam?

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 10:41 | 5673529 Cloud9.5
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Burned out a good portion of my generation and what did it get us? I was lucky enough not to go.  My brother went and about half my friends went.  No 2 son is now in Afghanistan.   Nobody ever wins in Afghanistan.  Read Kipling. Same big chess game, same bloody mess.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 11:10 | 5673575 new game
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true. humans do not have an ability to learn form past, because, well, we are humans guided by the wrong leaders that we don't have the ability to control.

shit floats to the top, but some terds sink - ron paul. we flush the toilet and always a floater remains...

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 11:09 | 5673576 EINSILVERGUY
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This cause may be without a true straegy,end or meaning but thank your No2 just the same. Had 3 cousins in Vietnam and always swore that I would always extend a hand of appreciation to those that put on the uniform. 

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 12:59 | 5673885 Ginsengbull
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Children often rebel against their parents.

 

People, in general, don't like being told what to do.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 13:07 | 5673907 scrappy
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Stand firm, it's the 21st century.

How we handle this will be the difference Cloud 9.5.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 11:27 | 5673613 FireBrander
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"Karl Marx may have been wrong about communism but he was right about much of capitalism"

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-14764357

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 11:33 | 5673633 FireBrander
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"The Promise of Capitalism"

Fulfilling careers will no longer be the prerogative of a few. No more will people struggle from month to month to live on an insecure wage. Protected by savings, a house they own and a decent pension, they will be able to plan their lives without fear. With the growth of democracy and the spread of wealth, no-one need be shut out from the bourgeois life. Everybody can be middle class.

Sun, 01/18/2015 - 01:34 | 5675758 ersatz007
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protected by savings...i like that part.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 14:27 | 5673925 scrappy
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His critique has merits FireBrander, that's why we need a better approach to capitalism.

The times demand it, nature and thermodynamics do too.

We as humans must take that one step forward to adapt and survive, then thrive again.

http://schalkenbach.org/on-line-library/works-by-robert-v-andelson/henry...

A basic framework we can all "plug into."

This new sociopoliticaleconomy would evolve to serve us as the situations and challenges change though time.

Combined with currency reform and common sense regulatory reform in a big way - simplify yet be sophisticated would serve us well.

Todays trends tell me we diy, make do, and transition to a new kind of prosperity that is socially possible  considering our divisions, the circumstances we find ourselves in, our limited education, and our (limited) wisdom we have today.

This will lead to tommorows adaptive change in all of those things. Millenials will take it from there and then they will wisely pass it on to future generations.

We must properly sheppard the information age.

This will be our shared legacy.

https://realcurrencies.wordpress.com/interest-free-economics/

http://www.cooperativeindividualism.org/

 

 

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 14:53 | 5674205 malek
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The wool of overcomplexity has been pulled over your eyes.

The key word is competition.

You can either have the safety of no competition, so no changes for good or worse (STATISM),
or competition by fists and weapons,
or competition by money and power only within a corrupt system,
or competition by peacefuller means in a system of steady and evenly enforced rules.

Since 1989 the remaining superpower had basically no competition. That's going to change by one of the ways listed above.

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 23:53 | 5672953 malek
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Another dumbshit commenter implying the only dictators are on the other side of the fence.

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 23:58 | 5672968 holdbuysell
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Yup.

Just as Red = Blue so does West = East *

* Minor differences on approach and secondary issues notwithstanding as the end goal is still the same

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 01:23 | 5673124 Tall Tom
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Total control...

 

They may deny that the goal for total control is being attempted in the USA but that is exactly what the Government has been incrementally attempting to do over the five and a half decades which I have been around.

 

It is going to be fun watching them lose control.

 

Now I may not live through it but...it will be fun while it happens.

Sun, 01/18/2015 - 01:35 | 5675759 ersatz007
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tartar control - that's important too.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 02:07 | 5673186 Zoomorph
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"Our media says their media is 100% propaganda. And our government says their government is an evil dictatorship. I won't bother to do an ounce of research myself (ie. read their leader's books, listen to his speeches, or move to their country to assess the situation myself) because the truth doesn't matter. I've sold my life to corporations, my soul to consumerism, entertainment, and security, and my mind to the media who do the hard work of researching and forming opinions for me. Now back to watching that reality T.V series...."

- Average American.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 04:22 | 5673286 giovanni_f
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Another dumbshit commenter is most likely a tax-paid .gov-troll. Mission: Recapture terrain the governnent-affine troups of those "Hongkong is in Africa" presstitutes have lost to the likes of ZH. Some are on their own mission, it appears. You can tell from their particular stupid contributions.

To learn how the terminal phase of a completely troll-infested site looks like, have a look at  the comment section of any RT's article on MH 17. I stopped counting those "American Partriots" infesting RT but it appears they have ramped up their efforts for target "ZH" as well.

 

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 23:56 | 5672970 post turtle saver
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people like this always come out trying to stir the masses into doing some shit, when they themselves don't have the balls to bust a grape in a food fight... the author can save his breath to cool his mush, no one gives a shit...

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 08:50 | 5673413 Hot Shakedown
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" We have been captured by a group of fraudulent citizens who control our money, our military and have desecrated our constitution"

Yes , we have been captured. They control the flow of ideas, information, and continue to "program" the sheep through control of resources .ie. government . This group is identified as ZIONISTs - Jews mostly. The same eastern Europeans that have been coming here en mass since the late 1800's . They really took over Europe after WW II and have slowly gutted the social fabric of the US while hollowing out it's capital base through control of the central bank.

Putin drove these ZIONISTs out of Russia. Imagine if the in the US, we we devoid of these ZIONISTs of dual Israeli citizenship and if the country was without the influence of AIPAC:

Liberalism & multiculturalism wouldn't dominate Western ethos (both are Jewish creations and both have always been heavily promoted/advanced by Jews; thus if no Jewish influence, then no liberalism and no multiculturalism... at least certainly nowhere near the degree we see today)

No Cultural Marxism and no political correctness (these are social engineering "tools" which came out of the Jewish think tank known as the Frankfurt School)

No third world immigration into Western nations (Jews wouldn't be in power positions to craft and force through liberal immigration laws; Jews are responsible for each and every Western nation's liberal immigration policy/laws, as all were orchestrated by a consortium consisting of the World Jewish Congress, the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, and B'nai B'rith)

No depraved filth on TV, in movies, etc. (because Jews wouldn't run Hollywood)

No widespread pornography (Jewish lawyers and Jewish activists were the main challengers of anti-obscenity laws, under the guise of "Freedom of Speech")

There would still be prayer in public schools (Jewish lawyers were instrumental in banning prayer in public schools under the guise of so-called "separation of church and state," something that appears nowhere in the U.S. Constitution)

No man-hating radical feminist movement (Jews such as Betty Friedan, Sonia Pressman, and Gloria Steinem, among others, were the key drivers of radical feminism)

No Israel and all the problems it has brought the USA and the immeasurable misery it has wrought on the Palestinians.

The true enemy is within .

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 14:32 | 5674139 post turtle saver
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useless talkings

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 00:27 | 5673034 scrappy
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I have been researching the days when the Contitution was being written. Many do not know that the delegates were only supposed to discuss what had already been agreed upon at that point...

http://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/2010/12/illegal-overthrow-united-state...

It happened the usual way, a combo of greed, and duress to those who cared about the whole country. Patrick Henry stands out they say.

Amendments since and everything in "history" is fair game at this point, we have met our destiny, our times, like all mortal man.

 

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 00:51 | 5673074 scrappy
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Then of course there is alledged to be this Constitutional amendment that might have been burried in the fog of the war of 1812?>>

http://accountabilityforpeople.blogspot.com/2013/09/the-hidden-13th-amen...

http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/hh02.htm

Anyway, it's not our fault, but it is our Duty to try to correct this, and much of "history" so we regain the bedrock foundation of truth.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 04:03 | 5673276 zhandax
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scrappy, I am with you on barring attorneys from holding public office, but I pointed out on the site my doubt that this was the original intent of the 13th amendment.  I am in favor of banning them now, but in all honesty, I am fearful of allowing a Constitutional Convention with the current crop of idiots of majority age and a completely captured MSM.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 11:29 | 5673589 scrappy
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I agree about your good sense of caution regarding a convention, it is not time yet Zhandax. We must get educated first and suffer a bit so we become wise though the fire (Learning Lesson) known as pain.

HB 638 – AS INTRODUCED

2013 SESSION

13-0796

09/01

HOUSE BILL 638

AN ACT recognizing the original Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution.

SPONSORS: Rep. Tremblay, Rock 4; Rep. Baldasaro, Rock 5; Rep. Christiansen, Hills 37

COMMITTEE: State-Federal Relations and Veterans Affairs

ANALYSIS

This bill recognizes the original Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution.

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Explanation: Matter added to current law appears in bold italics.

Matter removed from current law appears [in brackets and struckthrough.]

Matter which is either (a) all new or (b) repealed and reenacted appears in regular type.

13-0796

09/01

STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE

In the Year of Our Lord Two Thousand Thirteen

AN ACT recognizing the original Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution.

Be it Enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives in General Court convened:

1 Preamble and Statement of Intent. The general court hereby finds that:

I. In 1810, a proposed amendment to the United States Constitution, which prohibited titles of nobility and which later became known as the original Thirteenth Amendment, was introduced, passed both houses of Congress, and was sent to the states for ratification. On December 9, 1812, shortly after ratification by Virginia, New Hampshire became the thirteenth state to ratify the amendment. The amendment was therefore ratified by the requisite number of states and became Article XIII of the United States Constitution.

II. During the War Between the States, otherwise known as the Civil War, the country was under martial law, and all executive orders made by President Lincoln were, in effect, law. After the war, laws made during that period were to be abated; yet, vestiges of martial law remained and presidents continued to write executive orders.

III. The District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871, otherwise known as the Act of 1871, created a corporation in the District of Columbia called the United States of America. The act revoked prior legislation relative to the district’s municipal charter and, most egregiously, led to adoption of a fraudulent constitution in which the original Thirteenth Amendment was omitted.

IV. Today, what appears to the public as the United States Constitution is not the complete document, as it was never lawfully amended to remove the Thirteenth Amendment. Instead, the document presented as the United States Constitution is merely a mission statement for the corporation unlawfully established in the Act of 1871.

V. The purpose of this act is to recognize that the original Thirteenth Amendment, which prohibits titles of nobility, is properly included in the United States Constitution and is the law of the land. The act is also intended to end the infiltration of the Bar Association and the judicial branch into the executive and legislative branches of government and the unlawful usurpation of the people’s right, guaranteed by the New Hampshire constitution, to elect county attorneys who are not members of the bar. This unlawful usurpation gives the judicial branch control over all government and the people in the grand juries. As long as the original Thirteenth Amendment is concealed from the people, there shall never be justice or a legitimate constitutional form of government.

2 New Chapter; Thirteenth Amendment. Amend RSA by inserting after chapter 1-A the following new chapter:

CHAPTER 1-B

ORIGINAL THIRTEENTH AMENDMENT

1-B:1 Original Thirteenth Amendment. The following shall be recognized as the original Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution:

Article XIII

If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive, or retain any title of nobility or honor, or shall, without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office or emolument of any kind whatever, from any Emperor, King, Prince or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them or either of them.

3 Effective Date. This act shall take effect 60 days after its passage.

Hey you down arrow folks, speak your mind freely...dont hide.

THIS IS FIGHT CLUB!

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 12:40 | 5673841 Oscar Mayer
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Here's another proposal:

The 17th is unconstitutional, it violates Article 5's prohibition against taking the states' right to equal suffrage in the Senate via amendment. Being unlawful to begin with, the 17th does not need to go through the repeal process, all the states' have to do is withdraw their consent to it, as per Article 5, and seat their selection of Senators.

IF the states' legislators were to do this, it would effectively end the 100+ year rule of progressive (socialist) democracy and restore the Republic. It would also decimate the DNC/RNC national party apparatus and cut the corporate bribery funneled through campaign funding by half, leaving the remaining half ineffectual.  And of course, it would toss the biggest monkey wrench into the gears of the Neoliberal/Neocon's empire building machinations.

Over time, the people would withdraw their attention from the newly established Federal and focus upon the politics of local and state import, and states will regain their individual, independent personalities, establishing laws that work towards their own population's ends independent of other states and of Federal interference. We would, once again, become a nation of states, distinct.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 14:06 | 5673918 SameAsItEverWas
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2 New Chapter; Thirteenth Amendment. Amend RSA by inserting after chapter 1-A the following new chapter:

CHAPTER 1-B

ORIGINAL THIRTEENTH AMENDMENT

1-B:1 Original Thirteenth Amendment. The following shall be recognized as the original Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution:

Article XIII

If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive, or retain any title of nobility or honor, or shall, without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office or emolument of any kind whatever, from any Emperor, King, Prince or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them or either of them.

OK, so then why does my copy of the Constitution from National Center for Constitutional Studies (2012) have this very-similar (and redundant) clause in main body Article 1, Section. 9?  Why add something that's already there?  More importantly, if you replace the 13th Amendment with your redundancy about titles then slavery would be legal here because there would be no 13th Amendmentt making it illegal except as punishment fior crime.

No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no person holding any office of trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign state.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 15:12 | 5674252 SameAsItEverWas
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1-B:1 Original Thirteenth Amendment. The following shall be recognized as the original Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution:

Question:  Do you believe that the 13th Amendment's abolition of slavery (ratified Dec. 6, 1865) is null and void?

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 14:14 | 5673994 SameAsItEverWas
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scrappy, I am with you on barring attorneys from holding public office, but I pointed out on the site my doubt that this was the original intent of the 13th amendment. I am in favor of banning them now,

What?  Barring lawyers supposedly because Esq. is a "title of honor"?   What about judges being addressed as "your honor"?  Or me getting a leetter saying "Dear Sir" or having a cop address me as "Sir, get your damn feet out of that fountain!"?

And the Act of 1870 or 1871 was about creating a new federal seat of government on the Mason-Dixon Line.  Sure, federalism got a huge boost from it, and it's too bad for the cause of state's rights that the biggest faction supporting state's rights were fighting to maintain their right to own slaves.

J.C. Calhoun was a freedom fighter, but freedom for whom? 

The local "Patriot Movement" had a meeting at 6:30 PM every Monday night at a church near I-40 and Montgomery.  I found it sadly amusing that they spent so much time pointing out typographical oddities such as Roman numerasl versus arabic numbering and capitalization of nouns in 150-yr-old legalese but they had plenty of their own typographical errors in their recent writing and it seemed they themselves had poor grasp of written English in writing about the English of yesteryear.

I went there to see Ken Ellis speak, because he won a multi-million dollar settlement with APD for killing his son in one of the many killed by our city cops.  I hate to say it but I think a major cause of all the killings by local cops was the prominence of Albuquerque crime and cops on the boob tube.  First it was the TV show Cops and then Breaking Bad.  I think those two shows inspired our cops to be killer cops.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 03:22 | 5673251 lost money
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another stupid article that most zerohege lemmings cheer

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 08:05 | 5673386 Hot Shakedown
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Either you are incredibly ignorant, and "asleep" -
or you are a Zionist asshole.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 08:56 | 5673416 Kokulakai
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Hey, cockbite...ekm1

"...how many wars has Russia started in the last 20 years?"

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 10:44 | 5673536 rubiconsolutions
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"Another "freedom seeking" libertarian supporting dictators like Putin."

 

I do not support Putin. However, absent my ability to withdraw my consent to be governed what exactly is the difference between the U.S. and Russia or China or any other tyranny? Frankly, I see very little difference between Obama (or Bush I & II, Clinton, et al) and Putin.

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 23:28 | 5672892 tired1
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Paul Craig Roberts – Putin Can Destroy NATO And The Entire Western Financial System

 

http://kingworldnews.com/paul-craig-roberts-putin-can-destroy-nato-entir...

Wake up and smell the piss in your coffee, little goys snd dolls.

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 23:35 | 5672911 Harbanger
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He's smart enough to let the nazis collapse on their own.  If he were a western fool he would make a frontal attack and lose, he's smarter than that.  He will not save your western sorry-ass however, no one respects cowards.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 01:13 | 5673115 Self-enslavement
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When you say Nazi, what you really mean is Chosenite.

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 23:26 | 5672893 Harbanger
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The pendulum is gonna hit hard on the way back.

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 23:28 | 5672898 stant
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Being a southerner ,as always, they can kiss my ass

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 03:18 | 5673247 manofthenorth
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The War of Northern Aggression went global, going to be a lot of confederates sooner or later.

THE SOUTH SHALL RISE AGAIN

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 23:37 | 5672899 JustObserving
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The deep state that runs the land of the free got away with the Kennedy assassination, the 9/11 false flag, a terrible war in Iraq based on lies, and continues to get away with infinite spying of the Supreme Court, Congress and White House and you, a bloated defense that costs more than 1 trillion a year, 900 bases in 130 countries, illegal droning of poor, medieval countries, constantly limiting your freedoms with the Patriot Act and NDAA, and with captured regulators, fake, manipulated markets and a corrupt Fed that answers to no one.

America is a fascist, police state that caters only to the 0.1%.  Here is a great documentary which reveals the truth:

 

JFK to 911 Everything Is A Rich Man's Trick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM

 

The American Deep State: Wall Street, Big Oil and the Attack on U.S. Democracy

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-american-deep-state-wall-street-big-oil...

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 23:52 | 5672952 sandman.s
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Don't forget that they prosecute whistle blowers.

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 23:31 | 5672903 Government need...
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We must change the status quo within national government to hold individual elected (and appointed) bureaucrats personally accountable for their oath to represent their CONSTITUENTS.  While it may not be necessary to erect the gibbet/guillotine on the Mall, we the people must bring back the tar and feathers.  Of course, this will involve some confrontation with "law enforcement", but as the Bundy Ranch showed, this can also be done to proper effect without bloodshed.  We're pretty damn far down the road of tyranny, so I'd be naive to think the return trip will be bloodless.  Every time a conscious citizen 'awakens' and decides their time to help reverse the course is at hand, the closer we get to righting our ship.  After the awakening (to the fact our nation has gone horribly off the course charted by our Constitution), there must be a good amount of courage used to take the step to personal action.  Personal action does not immediately require the purchase of, training with, or use of weapons.  It is as simple as active participation in the election process at the municipal and statehouse level.  Write your Congressional reps.  Tell them when they screw up and ARENT representing you on an issue.  Give money to candidates whose ideas you support.  And yes, when the stormtroopers start mobilizing to trample your rights, face them down in whatever way you deem appropriate.    

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 23:54 | 5672964 Harbanger
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Merikans are some of the most easy-going, care-free folk I've ever met.  I've also seen another side of them when faced with what seems like an insurmountable problem.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 04:16 | 5673283 zhandax
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"We must change the status quo within"

If you knew French you wouldn't have misspelled 'Oui'.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 00:05 | 5672984 hangemhigh77
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the only thing you're missing is traitors must hang

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 00:05 | 5672985 hangemhigh77
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the only thing you're missing is traitors must hang

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 02:02 | 5673185 mvsjcl
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Worth repeating.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 00:09 | 5672999 Victorio
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When the evil ones have pics of your favorite politician balls deep in some little boys ass it doesn't matter how much you write them. They will do as they're told. 

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 01:36 | 5673146 Harbanger
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If your FAVORITE politician has his balls deep in some little boys ass, does it really matter what you think?  You've been proven to be a really bad judge of character, and should get 100 lashes for being an idiot while he fries in oil.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 00:11 | 5673005 hangemhigh77
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sorry but voting and letters don't work. Hanging traitors will work. Do that first.When your house is on fire you don't weed the garden.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 05:04 | 5673310 ebworthen
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Yup.  Politics will never solve this problem, ever.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 01:38 | 5673159 MrButtoMcFarty
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Nothing changes until K Street burns.

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 23:32 | 5672907 EndOfDayExit
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>...demeaning to rational self sufficient adults.

And how many of them are there? Very few. This is the problem with humanity. The deep state .gov is just a mere consequence.

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 23:39 | 5672924 A Lunatic
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Let them eat Drone........

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 23:45 | 5672942 Colonel Klink
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That's why they call it the NANNY state.

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 23:52 | 5672954 Talcott
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Constitution 2.0 pls....

...time for a convention Bitchez.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 00:41 | 5673065 runswithscissors
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there is nothing wrong with the Constitution 1.0, the problem is keeping the traitors from pissing on it..and then letting them get away with it 

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 01:22 | 5673123 Self-enslavement
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Cops are the traitors. They won't let us end the fed. Traitors!

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 01:36 | 5673157 Talcott
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Yes there are/were problems....and few more post war of northern aggression.

it is not sacred...an excellent starting point, no doubt. Have we not learned in the 2+ centuries...if you say no...well...

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrF5x1OSJuQ

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 10:23 | 5673509 Leraconteur
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Correct.

More laws won't matter, the ones we had in 1956 or 1966 or 1986 worked well enough.

Glass-Steagall being the biggest one.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 05:26 | 5673327 doctor10
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"They" would rather have us all bickering over Constittution 2.0 for a decade or two, than enforcing Constitution 1.0 on them. All that is needed is already written down.

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 23:52 | 5672955 Sanity Bear
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"parenting" implies someone actually gives a shit about how things turn out for you

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 00:05 | 5672989 Harbanger
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It's up to real Women to change the World.  They choose them, make them and raise them.  Real men.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 10:11 | 5673492 Cloud9.5
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Some parents pimp their children.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 00:02 | 5672979 hangemhigh77
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I personally have advocated HANGING FUCKING TRAITORS since 1999.  Unfortunetly no one has been hanged yet. I wait with baited breath as the rest of the patriots finally understand that hanging traitors is the only solution. And it's fun

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 00:45 | 5673071 Harbanger
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Hanging traitors is always good, it's been a long time since we've made the distinction between patriots and traitors.  It's hard to do with our modern relativism of no difference between right or wrong.  Problem is you have no idea who the real traitors are because many of them are already infiltrated within your own 'group.  Chances are the traitors are ten steps ahead of you and will blame and want to hang their own enemies.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 00:05 | 5672992 luna_man
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Hey Thad, I like the way you think!...Sign me up!!

 

I still have some fight, left in me

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 00:13 | 5673007 tlnzz
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Our struggle will be about restoration. Restoration of the Constitution and everything else that made our Country great before the carpetbaggers moved into power.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 10:15 | 5673063 weburke
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Someone talked kennedy into the silver certificate, his dad? Unrealistic advice. If there was any dream to follow, ok, but there is not. I leave the revolution dreaming to artists, here is an offering from 72 that has some good guitar at the end. Airplane family of course...      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rryGNsjhp_M

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 00:20 | 5673021 Jack Burton
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" remember the careers of the men behind such policies  have been spent finding ways to use America’s wealth and military to benefit Israel"

The Zionist Coup that took absolute control of America took place over 50 years ago now. They have got their fingers into every agency of government and total control of the Military Industrial Spy complex, the Media, and Hollywood. Zionism is not peculiar to Jews, it is a disase that infects American Christians to a greater degree that it infects many European Jews.

The Neoconseravtives who run America are all Zionists, and they see American people as a means to their end, not a people who have self rule in this nation. We are ruled, we do not rule.

Zionism started the Iraq war. Zionism let 9/11 happen, Zionism sends tens of billions of dollars to Israeli. Zionism used American nuclear material to build hundreds of Israeli nuclear weapons. Zionism aims those same weapons at Europe and even America. The corruption of media was their first great victory. They now own congress, nearly every congressman and senator is a card carrying Zionist. Zionism run the banks. Zionism run the Federal reserve. Zionism makes the films and TV programs you watch.

There was a time when Zionists did not rule America, but that was before World War II, in the aftermath of that war, Zionism made a rapid and effective take over of the US Government, Media, Military, Spy complex and all of the financial system.

They call the shots, they are who sits in the NSA and spies on you and me. They run CNN and all the bullshit lies about so called enemies. They help fake the false flags, and run cover for the CIA creating radical Islamic units across the globe.

Either eject the Zionists out of American Government, or they will turn us all into serfs and slaves. In fact, they are 90% of the way there. Most Americans support Zionism, and vote for it. That reflects how far they have come, getting the slaves to love their masters.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 00:33 | 5673047 Colonel Klink
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Spot on!  You anti-semite you. ;)

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 01:25 | 5673131 Self-enslavement
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I'm from the anti-evil defamation league. You can't talk bad about us evil people. It's anti-evil. We can't have that. Six million evil people were put to death. Evil people have been kicked out of every country in the world. Where will the evil people go? They need a homeland. I have an idea. Let's give them Palestine. Yeah, that's it.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 02:31 | 5673194 Colonel Klink
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Kicked out 109 times!
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/expelled.htm

EDIT:  Thanks for the down vote.  Breaking news, soon to be 110 the way things are going.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 00:37 | 5673053 JustObserving
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Truth is treason in a fascist, police state.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 01:21 | 5673125 YHC-FTSE
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I liked the article but if your comments had been included it would have been better.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 15:13 | 5674263 WillyGroper
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Ever heard the term JAG?

I hadn't. They've sewn up the judicial branch with "Judge Advocate Generals". 

Wanna see just how fucking sick ALL of these bastards are & how they're kept in line? That pedo exposure at the pentagram last year wasn't even the tip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap7odSIZ9Tg

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 00:18 | 5673023 Colonel Klink
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Author's name is Beversdorf.  Heh heh heh

-Bevis

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 00:24 | 5673033 q99x2
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punish these traitors appropriately severe so as to deter any future attempts.

Praise the Lord. I'll take them to the pyramids on Q99X2 if you don't want them.


Sat, 01/17/2015 - 00:38 | 5673048 Equality 7-25-1
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Wile E. Coyote was the product of an artist named Chuck Jones who drew from his childhood experience of an alley cat on the same sand upon which Mr. Gross's recent epiphany occured. i think Mr. Jones got more mileage out of his trip.

The identifying characteristic of all propaganda is that its secondhand. If you weren't there, you'll never know. Sauron's version of the lieu is based on this fact. The liar's club you call markets? Angelo Mozillo, your own bank? You sick fuck!

I cannot tell a lie. Twas I cut down the cherry tree, father. But hear me out. I made this bitchin table for the family. You should have been there, father. Where were you? What was more important than your own family? X[

Chuck Jones prints are available... th-th-th- that's all, folks!

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 00:33 | 5673049 Hail Spode
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In the end, it is either going to be Localism or Globalism.  If for no other reason, no other philosophy of government can protect its population from globalism.  http://www.amazon.com/Localism-Philosophy-Government-Mark-Moore/dp/0692257101/ref=tmm_pap_title_0/178-8150350-9642704

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 00:51 | 5673069 Equality 7-25-1
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Haven't you noticed? Globalism can only happen over (the rather frail) high speed telecommunications. The unethical abuse of telecommunications crushes "localism". Screw Starbucks, Krispy Schemes, McD's etc., humanity is not ethical. Its not just halitosis. Dude.

In globalism only size matters. Not force projection. At least not on this disparate scale.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 00:36 | 5673051 Flying Wombat
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Double dose of Paul Craig Roberts posts today - new stuff:

Charlie Hebdo Update  

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts  

Readers, with the exception of neoconservative William Kristol, appreciated the questions I raised about the Charlie Hebdo affair.  Europeans sent me videos and news reports from Europe.  One video compares the car in which the killers escaped with the car in which the ID of  one of the accused brothers was allegedly found and makes the point that the two cars differ. The car in which the ID was found apparently is not the escape car.

Click here to continue reading:  http://thenewsdoctors.com/?p=270214

# # # #

Ruin Is Our Future  

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts

Neoconservatives arrayed in their Washington offices are congratulating themselves on their success in using the Charlie Hebdo affair to reunite Europe with Washington’s foreign policy. No more French votes with the Palestinians against the Washington-Israeli position. No more growing European sympathy with the Palestinians. No more growing European opposition to launching new wars in the Middle East. No more calls from the French president to end the sanctions against Russia.

Click here to continue reading:  http://thenewsdoctors.com/?p=270212

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 09:17 | 5673427 Bob
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Also by Paul Craig Roberts:

The Failure of Laissez Faire Capitalism and Economic Dissolution of the West

http://www.amazon.com/Failure-Capitalism-Economic-Dissolution-ebook/dp/B...

Meanwhile, the internet-educated cyber-intellectuals rant about Muslims, useless eaters, and a bright, shiny vision of neo-liberal "Liberty" yet to be "won". 

We are so fooooked.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 11:24 | 5673610 YHC-FTSE
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Interesting links. Thanks.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 00:41 | 5673058 shovelhead
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I finally figured out I have something in common with the boys in the game.

We both ignore the laws we find inconvenient.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 00:50 | 5673080 Equality 7-25-1
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The difference is they flaunt it. Like espionage, treason, subversion, traitor, the French have a word for that: nouveau riche.

You have a conscience. What's coming has none.

I recall in the 90s when non-Americans openly regarded Americans as paranoid...

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 01:08 | 5673110 Incubus
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laws are generally in place to protect civil people from uncivil people.

 

There's the  intelligence modifier, though.  Generally, laws only catch the people on the lower end of the intelligence scale.  That leaves the real predators to take their pick of the flock.

 

Some empirical evidence gathering:

Talk to most people throughout your day.  Count the number of times you think to yourself, "Boy. I sure do wish this fucknut was smarter."

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 09:49 | 5673451 new game
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Talk to most people throughout your day.  Count the number of times you think to yourself, "Boy. I sure do wish this fucknut was smarter."

and when i meet someone that gets it, well, we conclude that it is hopeless, and agree to have a great day- TODAY. what the fuck else? fight the enemy within? timing/strategy is everything...

like minded wolves will gather in small packs. pick the correct pack...

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 08:50 | 5673415 Bro of the Sorr...
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"There are two types of laws, just and unjust. I would be the first to advocate obeying just laws. Conversely, one has a moral obligation to disobey unjust laws" MLK JR

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 00:47 | 5673077 Yen Cross
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 FX is mis ~understood.  Leverage is a good thing ,Forex Trading keeps banksters in check

 Clarity is Beautiful

 

 

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 02:32 | 5673222 MsCreant
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Some of us have been waiting to see you comment on the SNB decision, don't know if you have commented elsewhere...

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 03:28 | 5673254 Equality 7-25-1
Sat, 01/17/2015 - 09:58 | 5673470 techstrategy
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Yen, I think the currency markets are just starting to unwind decades of extraordinary manipulation that has driven the global imbalance.   I know you,  like I, think the USD is much weaker long term (CA, Net Int. INV position dictate that), but I expect that the USD squeeze continues while gold goes parabolic (ultimately the real issue is the disconnect between real assets and financial assets created by decades of unchecked fractional reserve banking phantom claims on real flows of value).  

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 00:48 | 5673079 Ewtman
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Social mood is about as negative as I can personally remember. Bad things happen when everybody is in a nasty mood...

 

http://www.globaldeflationnews.com/negative-social-mood-causes-geopoliti...

 

http://www.globaldeflationnews.com/gorbachev-warns-of-major-war-even-nuc...

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 01:08 | 5673109 Equality 7-25-1
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Parents don't tax you for parking, eating, breathing, drinking, learning, playing. When organic governance converges with boolean logic (hurry up and die chomsky, and chomsky bootlickers) there will be combustion.

We do live in a time when great accomplishments will make a difference. Historical men walk the Earth. Now.

Choose wisely what you share, and when.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 01:28 | 5673134 Oscar Mayer
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Here's a start to a fix:

The 17th is unconstitutional, it violates Article 5's prohibition against taking the states' right to equal suffrage in the Senate via amendment. Being unlawful to begin with, the 17th does not need to go through the repeal process, all the states' have to do is withdraw their consent to it, as per Article 5, and seat their selection of Senators.

IF the states' legislators were to do this, it would effectively end the 100+ year rule of progressive (socialist) democracy and restore the Republic. It would also decimate the DNC/RNC national party apparatus and cut the corporate bribery funneled through campaign funding by half, leaving the remaining half ineffectual.  And of course, it would toss the biggest monkey wrench into the gears of the Neoliberal/Neocon's empire building machinations.

Over time, the people would withdraw their attention from the newly established Federal and focus upon the politics of local and state import, and states will regain their individual, independent personalities, establishing laws that work towards their own population's ends independent of other states and of Federal interference. We would, once again, become a nation of states, distinct.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 01:28 | 5673137 kchrisc
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"We Have Been Captured... We Are Parented, Not Represented"

Parents don't generally extract their sustenance form their kids, as a matter of practice.

We are their farm animals. Pulling their plows, and wagons, and then being eaten when we are no longer of use to them.

The banksters need to repay us.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 01:41 | 5673166 Pitiful
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A solution: Stop signing up your kids for SSNs. Terminate your own. Free yourself the federal government.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 02:00 | 5673182 livefreediefree
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Back to the point.  The fact that Russia and China remain outside the event horizon of Western domination has literally saved citizens of the world from absolute enslavement.

What? What? What? Fucking Russkys have somehow found an infinitely long alimentary canal, put their head in one end, and somehow managed, even though the fucking canal is infinite, to head-butt the other end. Thus, telling Russkys to pull their heads out of this ass is a non-starter.

Let's see if we can gin up other wisdom like the excerpt above.

We had to destroy the village in order to save it. A good start.

We had to fuck her eyes out; ram rhino cock into her mouth, elephant cock into her ass, and Putin cock into the little, little, little space between the nail on her left (non-dominant) hand and her finger; and put boiling lead in her ears in order to prevent her from being raped. Better.

We need to ostracize anything in this universe that even hinted at freedom in order to make you free. Fuck. Not so good.

Sorry. The Russkys are definitely better at being Orwellian.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 02:06 | 5673193 dexter_morgan
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You are probably ok.........when you remember to take your meds.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 16:26 | 5674435 livefreediefree
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Russia is a failed nation-state; has always been, is now, and always will be.

Russians are sheep. They allow brutal, sadistic thugs to govern them.

When the history of the 21th century is written, Russia will be relegated to a footnote in one of the appendices.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 17:19 | 5674573 TheFourthStooge-ing
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This guy's comment is just cheap US of A propagandists talks. Very 'american' to evade reality and embrace the cocoon of delusions.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 18:13 | 5674713 livefreediefree
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You know how you Russky's out yourself? By using the word 'propaganda'. You see, it is an incontrovertible fact that propaganda is all the Russian media practices. It has been, is now, and always will be an incontrovertible fact. Thus, to you Russkys, propaganda is not only a fact of life but LIFE ITSELF. You live, breathe, eat, drink, defecate, urinate, and copulate propaganda.

Which creates your huge blind spot. You can't even conceive ofnon-propaganda. QED.

What I post here on ZH is not propaganda. I think the US gov't is the biggest fucking criminal organization in the history of mankind, and that the US media is complicit in the gov'ts criminality. In the same vein, I think hundreds of millions of other things suck as much. My middle finger is always extended, rigid, and palpitating. I could exist for eternity suspended by gyros on all 3 spatials axes, spinning around randomly, and giving my extended, rigid, and palpitating middle finger to whatever happens to be 3-axis-perpendicular to said finger.

So, I am the maximally-ethical Devil's Advocate, entirely bereft of propaganda, and, in fact, incapable of spewing it.

Russia is nowhere and nothing. Learn to live with it, Russkys.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 02:05 | 5673190 dexter_morgan
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WOW....never realized the incestuous relationships amongst the neocon/neolib cocksuckers running the west. Good insight.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 02:18 | 5673205 pakled
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"Self-government is the gift our founding fathers made possible and out of lack of respect for the sacrifices of the past, the constitutional rights of the present and the freedoms of future Americans we allow it to be traded for a comfortable existence.  We must stop and truly understand the concept of self-government as it was meant to be and then mentally reconcile that with the current state of our government.  We are parented not represented.  We are enslaved with encroaching laws that are demeaning to rational self sufficient adults.   And by a legislative body that feeds from our bosom, fights with our fists and has buried us in debt to a foreign body who they sold the rights to our currency.  How is this in any way a self-governed society?  We have been captured by a group of fraudulent citizens who control our money, our military and have desecrated our constitution."

 

This blog is so replete with essays regarding our current and impending loss of freedom (not a bad thing) that I just click past most of them anymore. But this pp has been put so poignantly, so succinctly, so eloquently, that it makes me wake up afresh to the ongoing tragedy that unfolds every day.

 

THE PRICE OF FREEDOM IS ETERNAL VIGILANCE

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 03:32 | 5673255 messystateofaffairs
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" We are being parented not represented."

That's if you consider animal husbandry to be parenting.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 05:20 | 5673322 Victor999
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In the book that these 'shepherds' are devoted to we are considered little more than cattle of the field, to be used and to serve them at their pleasure.  Make no mistake about it - these folks are evil personified, and if Russia, China and the Muslim world fall, the entire world will enter into a darkness never before known.

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 02:19 | 5673207 bid the soldier...
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La plus ca change...

 We have been captured by a group of fraudulent citizens who control our money, our military and have desecrated our constitution.


Sat, 01/17/2015 - 05:15 | 5673319 Victor999
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Now who could that be?

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 02:28 | 5673217 MsCreant
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Has anyone noticed the Zero Hedge logo is gone? Or is that just my screen?

Sat, 01/17/2015 - 02:33 | 5673221 Equality 7-25-1
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Scroll down. Hijacked conniptionz

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!