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Franc-ly Speaking: What If It Were All A Set Up?
Everyone loves a good conspiracy theory debate. Regardless of whether you argue for it, or against, there are times when suddenly the ramifications for plausible truth are realized that overshadow the conspiracy. This is where the plot of truth can get far more sinister than the imagined conspiracy ever could.
Since we’re going into a long holiday weekend here in the U.S. I figured it would be instructive to indulge in a few hypothetical arguments while throwing in a little conspiracy theory to make one think about what just might seem at first blush as unthinkable, might actually be more in line with undeniably plausible as time plays out.
For it will only be “in time” that we’ll know more about what prompted certain actions going forward. And what they may mean to all of us down the road if played out in ways most others would never contemplate.
I make that point because when I first thought about the Swiss National Bank’s (SNB) declaration to rescind its commitment to the Euro peg, I wondered why when just mere days before they assured their commitment to it.
A decision of this scale and magnitude with all its disruption directly thrust upon its own business infrastructure (i.e. The immediate throwing of profits into the waste-heap via a new exchange rate.) there had to be a reason far more onerous to the SNB than previously imagined. And that’s when my first thoughts went to thinking that maybe the SNB – was set up.
I use the words “set up” intentionally and deliberately. Why? Let’s just say today’s Central Bank cartel seems to have more in common with characters and scenarios in an episode of the Sopranos™ than anything else. Too harsh? Fair point. So let’s remember another indecent not all that long ago for some perspective.
Back in early 2011 then head of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) Dominique Strauss-Kahn (DSK) suddenly was charged with rape, sexual abuse, and unlawful imprisonment. DSK at the time was considered the rising star in the world of European monetary policy and politics. So much so that he was also considered a credible challenge to Nicolas Sarkozy for the French presidency. In a blink of an eye all that was wiped from the ledgers. And none seemed more surprised than DSK himself. In retrospect – all with good reason.
With little fanfare (for it doesn’t make as delectable a story for the main stream media as the original accusation) DSK was cleared. The case against him? Dropped. His name, career, political aspirations? Gone. As we now know he was replaced with a far more “banker” friendly head Christine Lagarde. Conspiracy? Who knows. However let me put two illustrations of statements for context. One is from 2010 when DSK was in a position of banking power when crisis and words from a “banker” meant far more than just words.
From an article by Buffin Partners Inc. April 2010
“On the topic of improving the IMF’s role in crisis prevention, he proposed a new multilateral surveillance procedure to assess the systemic effects of a country’s policies so as to complement the fund’s country-level surveillance and the efforts of the G-20, with its mutual assessment Process. There is a widely-held view that the IMF needs to improve its understanding and oversight of how risk spreads through the global financial system, and in particular, to monitor the largest complex financial institutions engaged in international finance. Mr. Strauss-Kahn has identified a number of measures to improve the role of the IMF in any future system-wide financial crisis, including substantial increases in the speed, coverage and size of IMF lending, and the provision of short-term multi-country credit lines. The IMF is also engaged in research studies on how to make its flexible credit line more effective and how to collaborate with regional reserve pools such as the European Union.”
Here’s something to contrast it with in regards to today’s Lagarde in December of 2014:
“International Monetary Fund (IMF) Managing Director Christine Lagarde praised the measures that the European Central Bank (ECB) has taken to combat the crisis and urged governments of the need to implement fiscal policies in order to support growth. In a speech given on Tuesday at the Bocconi University in Italy, Lagarde defined the ECB’s steps in recent months as “bold” and insisted that the Eurozone central bank needed to “continue to play a crucial role in supporting demand”.
It would seem at first glance one wants to have their hand in both the baking as well as within the cookie jar, while the other will use their hands to praise the baker for the cookies contained within. Regardless of what they taste like.
Distinction without a difference? Sure. But the real distinction is the one who wanted to help control the “baking” process in less than 12 months after that statement was both politically, as well as publicly, wiped from the face of the Earth in disgrace. The other would go on to replace him in both areas of importance seemingly right at the “best of times.” Like I said “who knows.” But it makes for great conversation no?
So let’s move back into today with the SNB decision and the “set up” hypothesis. What would this move do that would reward the party responsible for the “set up”?
It may very well solve an issue that scared the implementer far more than the SNB. And that issue just might be where the “Full Monty” monetary bazooka that was about to be revealed, was in fact, going to be witnessed for all to see – a pee-shooter. In other words, possibly far more restrained in nature by what the German (imposed) side of the argument would allow. And nothing brings the fear of losing one’s “omnipotence” more than needing to actually show it and there’s no there – there. Again.
Maybe the monetary threat of words this time were directed at the only place where words still might matter (for that’s all he has left) i.e., Directly at the Swiss as to make them cower into monetary panic.
The ECB would clearly know what would happen to the SNB if it were to release monetary mayhem with a its own version of QE with the Swiss Franc peg. Yet, how could one resolve the dilemma of efficacy if that so-called bazooka wasn’t as grand as its been suggested?
What if you could convince another monetary body (the SNB) into an outright panic; relieving your own condition? Regardless if the assistance it allows one (the ECB) for more time is temporary or not. For the key is – additional time. Any amount of time is better than none. For the implications of “no more time” are far too consequential for the ECB as a whole.
So now you get the benefit of a falling Euro that makes your exports more competitive. You also add into the collective narrative or thought process that if the Swiss could “leave” the Euro behind, maybe it indeed wouldn’t be so bad for the Euro Zone if Greece leaves. All at the same time slaying that one adversary loathed by politicians and “bankers” alike: Shorts. As in those “evil currency speculators” as deemed by the body politic.
A great many Shorts in one fell swoop have been annihilated. The body count of just how many along with how wide-spread is still an ongoing process and might be not known for months.
Add onto all of this it allows the ECB to now mince or parse its words in a fashion unimaginable just a mere week ago. Now it allows the “storytelling” to begin once again in earnest. Themes like: “Well we were ready to unleash a QE program of significant magnitude. However, with the recent events such as those displayed by the SNB we’ve now sided on the side of a more “cautious” stance. And in that theme, we are announcing a modified significantly downsized version of QE and will keep our “powder dry” and ready to deploy if and when we see the circumstances arise. For after all…what is one to do in such a circumstance? Blah, blah, blah…” Get the picture?
All conjecture, innuendo, skullduggery, conspiracy laden and more I’ll admit. However, it’s thought experiments like this that helps one garner or fortify their ability to “see around corners” for possible warnings when everyone is driving along with blinders paying no attention.
As plausible or not as the above may appear. What all this monetary malfeasance has wrought in one form or another is the fact (not conjecture et al) outside forces and power players looking to enhance their own positions in the monetary world are going to strike. And strike at the most inopportune times for those that believe “they” are in control. i.e. A real New World Order evolving and circumventing the current. e.g., The BRICS and PIIGS led by China and Russia.
Currently Russia and China have been a little more than “friendly” to each other. They have opened up trade along with establishing non-dollar backed agreements. What Russia has also done in the process of the current oil collapse is demonstrated it will (not just words but with action) allow Europe to freeze.
What does that demonstrate? Well it shows unequivocally Russia is willing to do things that might hurt its bottom line in ways the West would have a heart attack just contemplating. Never mind acting out.
Do you think Russia did that during a 50% drop in oil revenue because it was a smart “business” decision? Or, was it to show in great detail to anyone that its willing to demonstrate for all to observe what a true Machiavelli inspired move looks like?
If you’ve ever been in a real stakes game of power that move was not lost upon you. And, for any sane thinking person – it should scare the crap out of you. That move was a deliberate “show of force” in more ways than one. Yet, from what I’ve read in our own press, the very people who should know the intent of it – seemed oblivious too it.
You now have Russia signalling to Greece if were to leave the Euro Zone it would in-turn lift agricultural importing restrictions. And what exchange of currency you think will resolve itself to play out there? Drachma vs Dollars? Euros? Of course not, Obviously Rubles but how about the Chinese Yuan also? Why not? Euro Zone one down – 18 more to go.
If you do have Greece exit the Euro Zone how soon before Spain, Italy, Portugal, or who knows who else will be first to the line. Once one makes the move – the next comes sooner and faster. Just look to the recent comments from the Bank of Japan only days later after the SNB for a hint.
Dominoes in these types of circumstances fall quick; especially if they are fueled by people in desperate circumstances (such as countries in fiscal ruin). And we forget all too fast how one triggering event changes everything in a nano second.
Take the once previous unthinkable reality such as when Roger Bannister broke the 4 minute mile barrier. Before he did it, it was believed physically impossible. After? Within a year you needed to keep a list. That’s how fast the “unthinkable” can turn into the probable – forget possible.
Add too this the great rhetorical speeches that will befall on any country in need from escaping the U.S. Federal Reserve’s influence (or heavy hand) of monetary policy. e.g., “Why should your economies falter and your people suffer so that the U.S. can supply its population with free goods, free money, free healthcare while your economies suffer at the hand of their Dollar policy. Join us and forget the U.S. what has NATO done for you lately? Poland, I ask you…still feel the U.S. has your back? How about you others? How much more pain will your economies suffer at the cost to save the Euro/American empire? We left and things are getting better by the day with others like yourself joining we become even more self determinant. Is China, or Russia, or India, or ____________(fill in the blank) not a real economy? What say you?”
As fanciful or improbable as that may sound how about the other quite real possibility where China states something along the lines of: And we’ll buy all your debt. All you have to do is set up trade using our currency rather than theirs.
In that moment everything changes, and that moment is far closer to reality than the Federal reserve making the case that it can unwind its balance sheet without difficulties. Think about it.
Many will scoff and say, “Sure, but the U.S. has the military might which also helps protect that dollar status in the world. And currently there is no other military capable of dethroning the U.S. as a superpower.
Yes. that’s true. However, China is an economic superpower without a superpower military. Russia has a superpower equivalent force with rich natural resources. And they basically just aligned themselves at the hip with recent trade deals and more as to exclude the dollar. Do you think this was all just for a better pricing on an import or export?
As I said earlier nothing sets a discussion on fire than waving the conspiracy banner. Although I’m not what one would call a “conspiracy theorist” what I am quite fond of that’s helped me throughout my career is looking at situations where everyone else has deemed them as “can only mean this” and ponder why can’t it mean this? Or that?
For as many times as I’ve been told “this is the only way” more often than not: what was never considered as plausible turned out to be exactly what took place.
Some call it being a contrarian, some the Devil’s advocate. Either way you slice it can help open up some unforeseen possibilities that others either miss outright or worse – turn a blind eye in their surety that “It just couldn’t happen.”
As I stated it’s an invaluable way to look at issues where even if all they are, are just implausible or improbable realities, at the very least; one has had the mental exercise to help bolster those reasons of why or why not. Rather than blindly race off nonchalant only to find potholes, construction barriers, or worse – a bridge out sign with no road left for stopping.
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Are we playing their game?
Twik or Tweet time is over. BTFD now or forever hold your peace.
For their plans to materialize, the US must be completely and utterly destroyed.
The British landed at Chesapeake Bay in August 1777 and captured Philadelphia. George Washington's Continental Army was defeated easily at Brandywine Creek and Germantown. On December 19th, the army began a weeklong retreat to Valley Forge. It was nearly a death march, the soldiers being poorly clothed and largely unfed. Washington wrote you could tell their path by the blood from their bare feet in the snow. "One half of our troops are without breeches, shoes and stockings," Washington wrote, "and some thousands without blankets."
Why do we have innumerable laws "on the books" today?
Why are most of us considered "domestic terrorists"?
Why have our police been militarized?
Because they are SCARED SHITLESS of us.
The Republic dies ONLY when the last We The People patriot dies.
I would say "World Peace" can only be achieved by the destruction of US of A.
So the destruction of others brings peace to you?
You are just as evil as the other Warmongers whom occupy high office in the USA.
How can you even look upon youself in a mirror is incomprehensible.
He didn't say he wanted to destroy others. The USA is an idea, not a person.
dbl post
World peace is a myth for children like the tooth fairy. When in human history was there ever world peace? Please give dates or STFU.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrmcaiZM_vU
Nope - just brought in a situation were it has no other choice than to accept that others make the rules now. That's the chinese strategy anyway, the "Go" way.
I still don't get what the SNB would have to do with it. There'd obviously be quite some mayhem around Europe, but the Euro won't go down - in the past even Germany at some point always accepted the unavoidable, even if they used to be strictly against it.
So what would they be so afraid of?
afraid? that's putting the SNB narrative and action on it's head. as a reminder, the action of the SNB was to put that floor in place, three years ago. taking that floor away was the reversal of the act
so the proper question should be: "what scared the SNB to put that floor in place?", followed by "what makes them confident to take it away?"
btw, "Many will scoff and say, “Sure, but the U.S. has the military might which also helps protect that dollar status in the world. And currently there is no other military capable of dethroning the U.S. as a superpower. "
that's also a false narrative. the status of the dollar as global reserve currency is contingent to America's soft power, not it's hard power. the second helps the first, but it can't fully replace it
to put it in other terms, the Mighty USD is contingent to the goodwill of the rest of the world towards Uncle Sam
Excellent points. Most people totally associate U.S. power with its massive and aggressively confident military. Most Americans, especially, are not aware of the historical process. America grew in world stature long before it had its bloated military. Even in the Mexican-American war the Mexican army significantly out-numbered the American.
America's soft power (politics! spirit!) has eroded and its absence erodes the hard power. The hard shell remains--and thinks itself invincible.
Re the China comment.
It is certainly an interesting new use for all the US$ that China has. If at one day in the future some might become scrap, as they have so many, this is 'free' money if it is converted to something else now.
Why is New York and the City of London (which is extraterritory), why are USA and UK today the strongest Alliies, why are the British royals still in place and did not lose their heads, like the Romanow's or Bourbon's and many others?
Asking questions is the prerequisite to discover.
Actually they did - go look up King Charles and Oliver Cromwell. After the disaster that Cromwellian rule brought, the English learnt that it was better to have a king and strongly delineate his powers subservient to Parliament rather than a dictator. Its the same lesson that the Americans learnt in their war for freedom, unfortunately they have forgotten it and are now rapidly building a new aristocracy where the new name for emperor is "Mr President"
There are no real conspircies mentioned here except for the NWO takedown of DSK. A real conspiracy is Christine Lagarde becoming the IMF's managing director after Dominique Strauss-Kahn got caught in a honey pot trap at the Sofitel Hotel in Manhattan, after being offered sex by a maid/prostitute from Mali in the USA with falsified credentials. Everyone got into the act, Mayor Bloomberg, Criminal Court Judge Melissa Jackson (appointed to the bench by Bloomberg after being repeated passed over by Giuliani), DA Cyrus Vance (the crookedest Manhattan DA by dollar volume corruption in NYC history), PC Ray Kelly (who covered up son Greg Kelly's rape, even going so far apparently as having his detectives seize recordings of his son and the victim at the restaurant and law office) and Governor Andrew Cuomo, who suppressed any state investigation in the DSK frame-up. DSK phoned the Sofitel New York to ask about his missing Blaclberry and the police told the hotel manager to deny the hotel staff had found the phone. That way, the police could claim DSK was a flight risk. If DSK had returned to the hotel to pick up the Blackberry, Judge Jackson could not have denied DSK bail. None of the New York City reporters followed up this corrupt police activity. Most amazing is the statement that the Sofitel Hotel on West 44th Street had no CCTV cameras anywhere on premises, not even in elevators nor the public lobby area. Cameras that could have shown Lagarde's people stage managing DSK's arrest. Incroyable!
Fascinating. Obviously, we have never read all of this in mainstream media, at least not in the context of how you lay it out. Keep up the posts. And, for me, there is no such thing as a "conspiracy theory". It is free thinkin discussing possibilities. That's it. Frankly, any mainstream media publication should be labeled as a "conspiracy theory" until proven otherwise.
Why was Spitzer taken out like Kahn? after Spitzer took out Maurice Greenberg at AIG
Greenberg was the Linchpin in checks and balances against Cassano writing naked CDS of CDO's in London - with Greenberg out of the way there was no Risk Committee reviewing the balances
The largest Stockholder / Chairman / CEO was taken off the air in the largest Casualty Insurance Co in the world when then had no central review of global risk after 50 years on the job?
and then they stuff the box for $160 Billion with Hank Paulson / Geithner at the helm all of which is now on the record in Federal Court with Boise the attorney of record
this was the scam of the century!
Makes sense, but that doesn't mean it happened that way.
What's the sources for this?
(nope I don't believe the official version)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYmViPTndxw
I am playing THIS GAME
TOP 5)
5) Boston b
4) SH
3) Kennedy A.
2) human moon landings
1) 9/11
I am playing THIS GAME
TOP 5)
5) Boston b
4) SH
3) Kennedy A.
2) human moon landings
1) 9/11
I guess this means Dow & S&P will set new record highs by Tuesday evening?
Simply put: These pigs eat their young...
BTW, if it's a game of chicken, I am the rooster.
I am fucking tired of these EU nut jobs that keep pushing everyone to the brink. Let alone Mr. Yellen, suddenly coming along with her douche bag and stuttering the fact that all is well. Fuck'em... Fuck'em All.
Other popular ZH poster conspiracy theories:
1) The Jooooos run the entire world, apparently gentiles, Hindus, Buddhists, Islamonazis, etc. need not apply.
2) 9-11 was perpetrated by none other than Mossad and the CIA. Again, Islam need not apply, and ignore the Pennsylvania flight cell calls, all the video tapes of the perps, and OBL's own admission...it was Mossad...CIA...all funded by da Jooooos
3) Ukranians are incapable of thinking for themselves and need the CIA, Mossad, and doze evil Joooooos to help them pull off a revolution.
4) Gold and Silver prices are not just merely manipulated, they are directly controlled by guess who? Yep, you guessed it...da Joooooz
I can keep going but you get the idea.
Yes we get the idea. You're an Idiot.......
Me thinks I liked him better when was just the bitcoin idiot.
Bitcoin is for idiots. Store of wealth...fails miserably. Besides didn't you hear? The Jooooooooooz are behind bitcoin.
It's always the Jews, bro. C'mon, you must know that.
I mean, there's what, like 15 million Jews worldwide?
....over a billion Muslims and Christians, but, yes, let's blame the Jews for everything.
Blaming the Jews for everything is the favorite pastime of complete and utter morons.
You are preaching to the choir. But hey, let's just call them Zionists, that way we won't be called out for having neo-Nazi Jew-phobic fantasies.
'Bangalore Torpedo'. Is that a euphemism? ;)
"Bangalore Torpedo" is the follow-on troll from the "Listen!" troller who spammed the threads with his tiresome schtick, got downvoted out, few even bothered to engage after a while.
looks like he's launched for another flare-out, **!!BOOM!!**, and die-off.
no doubt he'll re-roll an new improved Bangy shortly after. . . it's how they roll.
Yeah, I love when Jew haters throw out "ZIONISTS (it's usually in all caps for some reason). Bashing the ADL or AIPAC or MOSSAD is popular too.
I personally like when people from the Middle East just refer to Israel as Tel Aviv.
Bottom line is there are a slew of options for a Jew hater to veil their bigotry in 2015.
“Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel,” “In Israel, death has no dominion over them… With gentiles, it will be like any person – they need to die, but [God] will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money. This is his servant… That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew. Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world; only to serve the People of Israel. Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat,” Rabbi Ovadia Yosef October-18-2010 during his weekly Saturday night sermon on the laws regarding the actions non-Jews are permitted to perform on Shabbat. The crowd responded with laughter.
880,000 including many elected and unelected US policy makers as well as influential world leaders attended the funeral of Chief Rabbi Ovadia Yosef. He stood next to Netanyahu at the podium.
Who runs Hollywood? C'mon
December 19, 2008|JOEL STEIN
I have never been so upset by a poll in my life. Only 22% of Americans now believe "the movie and television industries are pretty much run by Jews," down from nearly 50% in 1964. The Anti-Defamation League, which released the poll results last month, sees in these numbers a victory against stereotyping. Actually, it just shows how dumb America has gotten. Jews totally run Hollywood.
How deeply Jewish is Hollywood? When the studio chiefs took out a full-page ad in the Los Angeles Times a few weeks ago to demand that the Screen Actors Guild settle its contract, the open letter was signed by: News Corp. President Peter Chernin (Jewish), Paramount Pictures Chairman Brad Grey (Jewish), Walt Disney Co. Chief Executive Robert Iger (Jewish), Sony Pictures Chairman Michael Lynton (surprise, Dutch Jew), Warner Bros. Chairman Barry Meyer (Jewish), CBS Corp. Chief Executive Leslie Moonves (so Jewish his great uncle was the first prime minister of Israel), MGM Chairman Harry Sloan (Jewish) and NBC Universal Chief Executive Jeff Zucker (mega-Jewish). If either of the Weinstein brothers had signed, this group would have not only the power to shut down all film production but to form a minyan with enough Fiji water on hand to fill a mikvah.
The person they were yelling at in that ad was SAG President Alan Rosenberg (take a guess). The scathing rebuttal to the ad was written by entertainment super-agent Ari Emanuel (Jew with Israeli parents) on the Huffington Post, which is owned by Arianna Huffington (not Jewish and has never worked in Hollywood.)
The Jews are so dominant, I had to scour the trades to come up with six Gentiles in high positions at entertainment companies. When I called them to talk about their incredible advancement, five of them refused to talk to me, apparently out of fear of insulting Jews. The sixth, AMC President Charlie Collier, turned out to be Jewish.
As a proud Jew, I want America to know about our accomplishment. Yes, we control Hollywood. Without us, you'd be flipping between "The 700 Club" and "Davey and Goliath" on TV all day.
So I've taken it upon myself to re-convince America that Jews run Hollywood by launching a public relations campaign, because that's what we do best. I'm weighing several slogans, including: "Hollywood: More Jewish than ever!"; "Hollywood: From the people who brought you the Bible"; and "Hollywood: If you enjoy TV and movies, then you probably like Jews after all."
I called ADL Chairman Abe Foxman, who was in Santiago, Chile, where, he told me to my dismay, he was not hunting Nazis. He dismissed my whole proposition, saying that the number of people who think Jews run Hollywood is still too high. The ADL poll, he pointed out, showed that 59% of Americans think Hollywood execs "do not share the religious and moral values of most Americans," and 43% think the entertainment industry is waging an organized campaign to "weaken the influence of religious values in this country."
That's a sinister canard, Foxman said. "It means they think Jews meet at Canter's Deli on Friday mornings to decide what's best for the Jews." Foxman's argument made me rethink: I have to eat at Canter's more often.
"That's a very dangerous phrase, 'Jews control Hollywood.' What is true is that there are a lot of Jews in Hollywood," he said. Instead of "control," Foxman would prefer people say that many executives in the industry "happen to be Jewish," as in "all eight major film studios are run by men who happen to be Jewish."
But Foxman said he is proud of the accomplishments of American Jews. "I think Jews are disproportionately represented in the creative industry. They're disproportionate as lawyers and probably medicine here as well," he said. He argues that this does not mean that Jews make pro-Jewish movies any more than they do pro-Jewish surgery. Though other countries, I've noticed, aren't so big on circumcision.
I appreciate Foxman's concerns. And maybe my life spent in a New Jersey-New York/Bay Area-L.A. pro-Semitic cocoon has left me naive. But I don't care if Americans think we're running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government. I just care that we get to keep running them.
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/19/opinion/oe-stein19
I didn't know all of that and it is so important. I thought they were all gay.
i have not seen the king of bitcoin idiots in a long time.
Hey these are your conspiracies, not mine. No need to shoot the messenger.
....Such a thensitive boy.....
Got your message. And you are right. Many posts target Jewish people as being the reason for whatever issue that we would all like to correct. Like every power hungry, lying, self serving, manipulator is Jewish? Foolish thinking to limit any race, ehnicity or nationality as a focus. Prefer if people would go with specific names of individuals. More useful and then I can evaluate. On the other hand, personally I blame the Irish! Since I am one.
Useful idiot...
Sigh.
And for people like you, Israel is never guilty, because it is the Jooooish State, hence any criticism is "hate" and, why, you need not even consider the evidence that the Jewish neocons who called for a new Pearl Harbor may have been involved in producing one.
The King David Hotel bombing, the Lavon Affair - these attempt by Joooos to blame Arabs for their acts of terror would also have been "conspiracy theory" - like the bombings of Iraqi Jews apparently done by Israelis - had they not been caught red-handed.
So then, to summarize your Ziocentric world view - 9/11 was done by the world's eeeevil Muslims, and Israel, God's favorite nation state [because it says so in a book written by... Joos?] has never, ever done anything wrong, tried to lie the US into wars, and the Oded Yinon plan and plans for Greater Israel freely discussed in Zionist and Orthodox circles become conspiracy theories when non-Jews discuss them as motivating Zionist extremists.
Got it.
Anything else new to offer?
Sigh...
Actually no.
Bibi is a fucking moron and is about one wrong move away from South Africanizing Israel. People that defend Israel do so under the knowledge that Israel lives under a system where it can't afford to lose ONE war or they're done as a country. (I think even anti-Semites could acknowledge this rough situation)
However, morons who blindly blame Jews on wall st, Mossad for every single thing that happens in the world only expose themselves for what they are....
Small minded, low-iq, dipshit bigots.
By all means, continue blindly support Vlad. How exactly did he obtain power in Moscow? I know most of you nutjobs drone on and on about "false flags" without fail. How about blowing up a couple apartment buildings of your own citizens so you can start a bullshit war in Chechnya so you can get elected President?
Cuz that's what your boy Vlad did.
Wow, what a guy.
Right about Israel. But since they will not be on the winning side forever, Israel should have a huge interest in getting to terms with its neighbours.
Wrong about Russia. "Vlad" is certainly not a democratic or moral ideal, but he's damn intelligent. That's what I like about him. Plus he seems to be more honest than almost anyone in the EU or US. Remember how many times he proposed models of intl cooperation? I wouldn't discard the possibility of him engineering "events", but from the evidence it seems more likely the US manipulated things around the chechen war.
And btw, I dont see anyone here "blindly supporting or accusing" any Jew or Putin.
And all of you buy into this hijacking of a thread, en tandem, by Bangalore Torpedo and Silver Bullet because the article presented exposes the truth?
Neither the article, nor the comments, had nothing to say about Jews...nothing..until they brought it up.
Be aware that these tactics are reserved, and employed by paid trolls, when TPTB does not want exposure...
Why would they bring that up?
There is something in that article which they do not want you to be able to use to connect the dots. What do you think that might be?
Do not engage and bring this back to topic.
The ECB slaughtered some Currency Shorts through playing a bluff to the SNB.
So are you enjoying your long freeze without Energy, Europeans?
I told you that this was going to happen to you way back last July and you guys just junked my posts.
Now you are getting junked, for real, in return.
Putin did turn off the gas, didn't he? Food prices in Russia are skyrocketing, aren't they?
What did I tell you?
So just respond to these trolls about something that has nothing to do with the article. They need to distract you. They need to drown out voices which need to be heard on that which has happened...
Now those Voices whom know what I NEED TO KNOW are the ones I need to read. Then I can make some sense of it, PROGNOSTICATE, and then make future plans.
But the trolls do not want that. They seek to confuse you through distraction so that their employers can carry out their nefarious destructive plans.
AFAIK as of this morning, Russia has not turned off gas or oil into Europe. It may well have cut gas to Ukraine who I do not believe has paid upfront for January yet, but not transit gas.
They have told Europe that they will cut transit gas through Ukraine, but in 2018, and have suggested that the EU build a pipe to join up with their new TurkStream pipe, due about the same date.
https://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2013/07/01/jewish-ex-argentina-minist...
Hey f*cknuts. Nice strawman. The Jews do bad things, The US does bad things, Russia does bad things, Muslims do bad things. Actually they all do evil things, but NONE of them are responsible for all the evil things or even the most. You are a tool.
“give me control of a nations money and I care not who makes the laws” – Mayer Amschel Rothschild, Founder of the modern financial system which has usurped the wealth of the world to enrich a handful of inbred zio psychopaths.
Nine weeks & three days.I say you have nothimg to do with bangalore.
The demonstration of so many ZH posters of a inability to actually think and reason critically is pretty sad. It wasn't always this way. I think it demonstrates a massive number of trolls regularly patrol ZH who have an agenda that doesn't require actual thought.
A writer who uses "In other words,...", is a very poor writer. Just use the correct words the first time. The guy could've said in one-quarter of the space what he wanted to say, and I'm still not sure what that was.
My favorite part is where he talks about a "pee-shooter". Is he saying that we've all been peed on? Should he have been talking about a "pee-sprayer"? Or am I just dreaming, having fallen asleep in the midst of a rather boring NFL game?
We are The Borg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZEJ4OJTgg8 (0:52)
Yep.
Say hello to "ice diamonds."
I hate to say this about my own country, but that Foggy Bottom crew in Washington DC is just not up to dealing with Putin. That's scary shit imo.
See the NWO is imploding. Nobody likes them not even themselves.
"long holiday weekend"
Really? Who besides the various government employees is on holiday?
A writer who uses "In other words,...", is a very poor writer. Just use the correct words the first time. The guy could've said in one-quarter of the space what he wanted to say, and I'm still not sure what that was.
This writer has nothing to say but is clearly in love with the droning of his own voice.
Learn to use the 'reply' button.
By now it should be reasonably clear that Everything is a Conspiracy by somebody for somebody and involving somebody.
In that case, make mine a double, and please pass the tinfoil.....
Then this means one thing only: your conspiracy theory about conspiracy theories is yet just another masterfully concocted conspiracy disguised as a small play on humor. Batten down te tinfoil hats everyone! We got a live one here!
There are just too many conspiracy theories for me to get a handle on them. Is everything manipulated by the joooooz and their mossad, or is it a bunch of US fascist families that run wars, making profits by funding both sides (shades of Milo Minderbinder)? Or maybe it's the mafia-controlled CIA that's pulling all the puppet strings, although it could very well be the illuminati or masons or jesuits. And what mysterious group is putting out all these conspiracy theories to obfuscate the truth? And why to I suddenly feel like getting another copy of Catcher In The Rye?
Yer forgettin' the Lizard people from Sirius! :>D
if there's a point in there i can't find it
lol...neither could I.
Did Merkel go to Kiev?
Not sure but I can state with all the mental calisthenics embedded in this article that Biden Jr did and fired the RPG that brought down a passenger jet at 20k feet! ;-)
All will be made whole come tuesday. It is our new destiny for sheep....until it isn't. I am no enthologist but I think sheep will end up just fine according to them, no matter if they are eating cat food.
The pigs (sorry censors) will end up just a little better than them.
I agree with the DSK conspiracy and direct you to DSK's words on
'Inside Job', Mark. DSK was very critical of his peers and I believe his comments on 'Inside Job' are what prompted the 'Honey Pot' take down
plastered all over prime time to discredit him eternally in the minds of everyone throughout the World. Please re-watch 'Inside Job' and pay close attention to exactly what DSK said in that film.
Great article, Mark.
What if all of existence were one big conspiracy? What if everything that is is being manipulated from afar stricly for the amazement, amusement, or benefit of someone or something, some entity totally beyond our ability to fathom?
That would explain a lot.
I've recently begun to suspect that my very identity is a ponzi scheme.
If it were set up, and the US knew it, then that would help explain why the US ducked the group photo!
Of course, Kerry didn't make it to Paris for the photo, but he did make it to the Patriots game!
Of course it could just be that the Swiss got tired of being shoved around. Abandoning an infant three year old monetary policy is not the end of the world and traders should realize that any nation state can do the same thing at any time.
Hedge accordingly ;-)
If Switzerland were serious about their currency they would have fixed it to the DOLLAR not the euro.
Now they have to go toe to toe with the Ruble.
Russia makes spaceships. Good luck.
A nation doesn't have to fix it to anything when you get right down to it, the market decides a currencies stability (which is really all fiat paper is) and thus its value to hold or trade away.
But wouldn't it be a hoot if they "fixed it" to what a simple ounce of gold can purchase, wheat, barley, oil etc ;-)
Say what you want, but on the world stage, a gayfer will always blink before a hetero alpha male. EVERY time! This is what our lead from behind (pun intended) politics have brought us to. We are not all equal. Leaders are naturaly born, sociopaths are a dime a dozen.
I don't think the peg was broken so Grexit would be more acceptable. I don't think the SNB did it for the euro either.
Peter Schiff has been saying for a while that the ECB can't do QE for a number of reasons, namely that Germany won't let it happen, but also because there is the problem of determining what to buy.
If Schiff is right, the theory that the ECB QE program was destined to be viewed as a disappointment DOES give them motive to seek alternative, covert means to devalue the Euro.
Peter Schiff has been saying for a while that the ECB can't do QE for a number of reasons, namely that Germany won't let it happen, but also because there is the problem of determining what to buy.
If Schiff is right, the theory that the ECB QE program was destined to be viewed as a disappointment DOES give them motive to seek alternative, covert means to devalue the Euro.
Might be a set-up?
Oswald Grübel, former CEO of UBS - 'we engineered the financial crisis':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=J4B5f2ezEB8#t=128
What few people know it's that Mr. Dominique Strauss-Kahn was setup by the NSA following orders from US government.
Or his wandering dick got him in trouble....
Including his propensity to poke the help.
Swiss just jumped the ship. Swiss have either inside information or a gut feeling concerning the pending failure of something.
Are there any other moves in market that would indicate panic selling ?
Any infomation ?
Is David Rockefeller in Moskva with Brzezinski ? This is just a guess now but here goes : something has been wedged in between Rockefeller and Rothschild - oil versus gold - who knows what the wedge might be , but a schoolyard fight for dominion over and control of territory ( the planet earth ) has been the result of said wedge. G Edward Griffin had a great line about when money is no longer what " IT " is about - now " IT's " about power. Sooner or later the monied sewing circle will disappear, either by its own hand or by people waking up and revolting before tomorroow morning as Henry Ford quipped. It will be an interesting 10 years methinks.
sadly, "IT" is always about power, all of "IT".
power, the acquisition of power over every thing, humans included, is all this is about.
weapons, be they fists, knives, guns, bombs - all are used to gain power over.
all forms of "money" and all things exchanged for "money" ultimately lead to a state of mind that believes it is more power-full. more stuff acquired, more stuff needed. "he who dies with the most toys wins" right?
competitive mindsets, vs. cooperative mindsets - the competitive always seek power over and will withhold their cooperation with others if it means they can hoard more "power", and will always denigrate, label, punish, undermine, destroy that which is seen as competition for what is desired, needed for more power over. and there's always another who "threatens" that desire, and much work will be done to take 'em out.
this is why we can't have nice things. . .
Conspiracies are rare. People just don't keep secrets that well.
Look for simpler explanations.
It is highly doubtful that the SNB was acting in the best interest of the Swiss people. That's the real story. Fuck a bunch of FX traders and interest swap junkies and the imaginary money they lost.
The article compares two people who think they have the right to fuck over entire countries for their own ends.
Would you like the large diameter dildo jabbed up your arse or the thinner spiked one.
Well, Mr. St. Cyr. The DSK thing, yeah, no doubt. Everyone who is taken down from a prominent position is taken down by conspiracy - unless it's by an act of God via heart attack or something. (Even a heart attack or a "suicide" may be a conspiracy.) But there's nothing unusual or even remarkably astute in that. I've yet to see a national (or international) event that was NOT the result of some kind of conspiracy. A simple cui bono will usually let you know at least some of the names behind it. This is just logic (what some might call, "critical thinking").
Now, if you had speculated, for example, that certain "terrist" groups are CIA fronts, that certain politicians or bankers masterminded certain disasters or manufactured wars for profit or distraction - if you had wondered whether some beloved national leader had started a war to distract from a marriage scandal, or a terrist event was staged to distract from certain elite sexual perversions - or whether certain notorious war villains were villains at all, but might in fact have been the good guys - THEN you may be a conspiracy theorist. Tinfoil can't be faked, my friend!
A real conspiracy theory is dangerous, because even to publish it might risk the writer's neck. Free thought and speech are dangerous, which is why copyright seeks to limit them. (Well, that and the profit motive.) Publishing a conspiracy theory would expose the conspirators to loss. Hence, a conspiracy theorist is wise to resort to pseudonyms, and learn how to use metaphors.
I learned to write from conspiracy theorists. I know conspiracy theorists. Conspiracy theorists are friends of mine. Sir, you are no conspiracy theorist.
But...I appreciate the beginning you've made, the start at embracing conspiracy theory as a valid way to think. Keep at it and one day you may indeed, be Spartacus.
"Free thought and speech are dangerous."
Thinking is not dangerous whatsoever, but people that don't like thought expressed or articulated are. It takes some thought to assess what to speak or write about without getting into difficulty, but all writers are self censoring and everyone monitors what others might react like when they speak or write. We are all high or low social monitors in terms of assessment of what others are writing about or talking about. Low social monitors will likely get into trouble, but few people are actually such low social monitors that they get into too much difficulty. Writers that get assassinated for their words are few in the grand scheme of things. Historically, there are many writers that have been assassinated for their words and speech, but today we don't see any greater attack on speech than we have witnessed in historical record. Internet is empirical proof that free speech and thought can and does exist all over the planet in the form of Conspiracy discourse, speech, and writing. I fully believe that there is much more of that type of discourse as time passes and society accepts it and ushers in more every week. Conspiracy has become a genre of writing not unlike fiction in terms of a novel.
Franc-ly, Mr. Jordan, I'm a sickening wreck
I've got negative equity breathing down my neck
I must move fast, you understand me
Don’t want to go down in forex history
Claim, claim, counterclaim
It can play hideous tricks on the brain
But still I'd rather be Dimon than Yellen or Draghi
Any day, any day, any day
But sometimes I feel more fulfilled
Knowing central banks are all mentally ill
I want to fight against the doves
I want to trade something that I might be ashamed of
Franc-ly, Mr. Draghi, since you ask
You are a central bank pain in the ass
I do not mean to be so rude
Still, I must speak franc-ly, Mr. Draghi
Oh, just give us the money
Prince Andrew and Fergie bought a $30 million Dollar chalet in Switzerland in December.
What a stroke of luck for them
If past is prologue then perhaps this time the Swiss have learned the importance of preemptive timing from 1936 when being the last country to convert to a gold standard and decoupling from the LMU (only just as the union dissolved) caused it more damage than other nation states at that time. Their currency is their sovereignty in many ways and the 1930's were not healthy for their economy. Once bitten twice shy?
http://www.macrothink.org/journal/index.php/rae/article/view/5044
AbstractSwitzerland is perceived as a unique country. Economic and financial explanations have to be linked to monetary, social and political reasons too. It means that money matters in Switzerland because it is a small, open and multicultural country that needs a strong common anchor in order to exist. This is why we will focus on the key period of the 1930’s when the choice to implement the Gold Stallion was more than a technical and monetary choice: it also played the role of a social and political anchor for the Swiss society as a whole to federate.
Banksters in a conspiracy? Hmm, let me thimk about it.
I mean sure, here on ZH if the sun comes up in the east it's because the Joos are executing a false-flag plot against the good right-thinking folks, but other than that, wtf are you even talking about? Of course it's a conspiracy.
zzzzzzzzz.
"Add too this the great rhetorical speeches that will befall on any country in need from escaping the U.S. Federal Reserve’s influence (or heavy hand) of monetary policy. e.g., “Why should your economies falter and your people suffer so that the U.S. can supply its population with free goods, free money, free healthcare while your economies suffer at the hand of their Dollar policy. Join us and forget the U.S. what has NATO done for you lately? Poland, I ask you…still feel the U.S. has your back? How about you others? How much more pain will your economies suffer at the cost to save the Euro/American empire? We left and things are getting better by the day with others like yourself joining we become even more self determinant. Is China, or Russia, or India, or ____________(fill in the blank) not a real economy? What say you?”...
"Say Goodnight Gracie"!...
The SNB is 55% publicly owned
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_National_Bank
Leaving 45% held privately.
Since several posters have indicated anything involving "Joos"is a conspiracy theory - we may assume that the Rothschilds, Lazars, Israels, etc. don't own any stock in the SNB, nor do they own the banks making up the FRS - which is probably owned by the Jesuits, who secretly rule the world, and who dominate banking, news and entertainment media, the legal and medical boards, etc. etc. That is - it can not be disproportionately owned by "Joooos" since the disporportionate ownership of banks by "Jooooos" is "anti-Semitic" and so therefore untrue [even if it corresponds with what is the case].
Catch Twenty-Joo?
In any event, and more importantly...
http://qz.com/327410/absolutely-everything-you-need-to-understand-what-h...
Switzerland has pretty low debt levels, compared to absurd debt levels in the US.
Remind me why the events of the past week signal the triumph of the dollar?
http://www.snb.ch/en/mmr/reference/shares_structure/source/aktionariatss...
40.3% is publicly traded (listed shares on the SIX)
59.7% is publicly (State) owned (the Cantons and the Cantonal Banks- half of which are also publicly traded on the SIX)
All shares of the SNB are registered shares.
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2,219 private shareholders with a total of 35 4321 40.29
Of which 1,876 shareholders with 1–10 shares each
Of which 309 shareholders with 11–100 shares each
Of which 19 shareholders with 101–200 shares each
Of which 15 shareholders with over 200 shares each
73 public law sector shareholders with a total of 52 517 59.71
Of which 26 cantons with a total of 38 981
Of which 22 cantonal banks with a total of 13 068
Of which 25 other public authorities and institutions with a total of 468
Total 2,292 registered shareholders with a total of 87 949 100.00
Registration applications pending or outstanding for 12 051
Total shares 100 000
1 Legal entities: 11,569 shares (11.57%); private individuals: 23,863 shares (23.86%). Private shareholders account for 21.78% of voting rights.
2 Voting rights are limited to 100 shares.
3 In 2013, the number of shareholders increased by 48 and the number of registered shares rose by 139.
4 Of which 13,355 shares are in foreign ownership (accounting for 1.67% of voting rights).
Principal shareholders: Public law sector
31.12.2013 31.12.2012
Canton of Berne 6 630 6.63% 6 630 6.63%Canton of Zurich 5 200 5.20% 5 200 5.20%
Canton of Vaud 3 401 3.40% 3 401 3.40%
Canton of St Gallen 3 002 3.00% 3 002 3.00%
Principal shareholders: Private individuals
31.12.2013 31.12.2012
Theo Siegert, Düsseldorf 6 250 6.25% 5 995 6.00%
1 Subject to legal restrictions as a shareholder outside the public law sector (art. 26 NBA), i.e. voting rights are limited to 100 shares.
you sound like an anti-semitic peice of chit
I find that theory implausible too!
As I wrote first here http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-15/margin-calls-eurchf-breaks-back...
in answer to
> So, the Euro is collapsing against the CHF. What does this really mean?
It means the SNB has achieved what the ECB wanted to do with a QE. At least on the surface.
In reality the ECB didn't want to do evenly devaluation of the EUR, as the SNB now caused, but wanted to choose the spots such as devaluing all remaining real savings by buying up Spanish/Italian/Greek govt junk bonds.
It's really totally funny how much egg the ECB now has on its face before even doing anything, while all commenters here seem to feel the SNB is the one to laugh at most.
So in other words I fail to see how the SNB move (hoodwinked or not) was a valid replacement for an ECB QE.
Update:
On further thought, maybe the effect described by me is exactly what "ze Germans" wanted - to derail a directed ECB QE. So the SNB got the nod from BuBa.
Interesting premise as the other side of the coin. Instead of Germany, Holland, Austria and maybe another leaving the Euro Zone the play is made to have the weaker members that are a fiancial drag leave on their own volition. The first is Greece, followed by whoever, leaving the viable more robust. The not so wild card is that the USA facists didn't put the E.U. together to see Euro politicians undue their work which will necessarily lead to more false flags,kidnappings and assassinations if they Euros don't obey to the bitter end. Unless of course this is in the plan as all can still be kept under thumb while avoiding a messier breakup than otherwise might occur.
What if Financial Crises are By Design?
http://winteractionables.com/?p=17884
hey now switzerland can impose a tariff of 30% they will fund government with no income taxes. LOL the swiss are so crazy.