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Guest Post: 5 Ways To Unf##k The World
Submitted by Gary 'Z'McGee via The Waking Times,
Here’s the thing: the earth is not f##ked. The earth will go on evolving with or without us. In fact, in many ways it is better off without us. No, it’s the human world that’s f##ked. Either we adapt and overcome by making cooperation primary and competition secondary, or we’re f##ked. It really is that simple. Unf##king the world will not be a walk in the park. It will be a complete upheaval of what we think we know about how human beings are “supposed” to live on this planet. We’ll have to turn the tables on our egos, our so called leaders, and even our loved ones. We’ll have to outgrow being indifferent and get used to being different. We’ll have to awaken and clear outdated, multigenerational patterns that need interrogation and then integration at a higher vibration. Here are five ways to attempt unf##king an otherwise f##ked up world. Without further ado, let the unf##king begin.
1.) Unf##k Yourself
“To be human is necessarily to be a vulnerable risk-taker; to be a courageous human is to be good at it.” –Jonathan Lear

Before you can unf##k the world, you have to unf##k yourself and then lead by example. Start by questioning everything, especially yourself. Meditate on everything, and then let it go so you are free to create something new. Do it to the nth degree. Question yourself so hard and so ruthlessly that your bones ache with doubt and your soul trembles with uncertainty. And then let that doubt and uncertainty go. Question your devotion to an unhealthy, unsustainable lifestyle. Then brainstorm on ways to live healthier and more sustainably. Question why you tolerate and defend unjust, inept, and corrupt systems of human governance. Then free-associate ways to make it more just, more competent, and more honest. A mindf##k a day keeps the brainwash away. Question why you’re not doing what it takes too become healthier in mind, body, and soul. Interrogate your ego. Cross-examine your soul. Then take the answers and apply them to the natural world. Get out into nature and have a deep, interdependent conversation with Mother Nature using a language older than words, and then discard what insults her soul. Her soul is your soul, after all. Like Walt Whitman said, “Re-examine all you have been told at school or church or in any book; dismiss whatever insults your own soul.” Unf##king the world begins at home. If you unf##k yourself again and again, you might earn the right to unf##k the rest of us.
2.) Learn the Subtle Art of Not Giving a f##k
“Humanity has advanced, when it has advanced, not because it has been sober, responsible and cautious, but because it has been playful, rebellious, and immature.” –Tom Robbins

Here’s the thing: we live in a grossly misbalanced, rigid, stuck-in-the-muck, head-up-its-ass Apollonian society. In order to balance it out, indeed in order to tonalize an otherwise atonal world, we need to dig down deep into our wild, playful, laugh-out-loud, humorous, drunken Dionysian energy. A primordial energy that could give two blue shits whether or not the powers-that-be approve of our actions. A primal energy that isn’t worried about pissing off authority or rustling the feathers of militant idiots caught-up in their robotic puppetry while gripping rifle butts and splitting the air with their tyrannical heil-f##kery. An ancient energy that gives zero f##ks about cultural norms and outdated laws and parochial finger-pointers. We learn to accept what we can’t change, but change what we can’t accept. It’s the kind of laugh-out-loud energy that caused the beautiful Betty White (who just so happens to not give a f##k) to say, “Why do people say ‘grow some balls’? Balls are weak and sensitive. If you wanna be tough, grow a vagina. Those things can take a pounding.”
3.) Become a Well-Armed Lamb (Lion)
“Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding on what to eat for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.” –Benjamin Franklin

A well-armed lamb is a lion in sheep’s clothing that has the potential to trump the wolf. A black sheep who has unf##ked themselves out of the illusion of being shepherded and into the reality that the world is what we make of it. “The price of being a sheep is boredom,” wrote Hugh Macleod. “The price of being a wolf is loneliness. Choose one or the other with care.” Or we can choose to be the wise lion and really become a force to be reckoned with. Part of unf##king the world is understanding how the world is put together, and that requires knowledge. A well-armed lamb is a wise lion that cannot be ignored. This type of person knows all the rules, but the rules don’t know them. They are artists par excellence. Their medium is human flourishing. Their canvas is the human condition. Their stage is the world. And nothing can stop them from performing. Paraphrasing Picasso, they’ve learned the rules like a pro, so they can break them like an artist.
4.) Count Coup on Tyranny
“Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man. There has never been a really good one, and even those that are most tolerable are arbitrary, cruel, grasping and unintelligent.” –H.L. Mencken

Democracy’s failure as a form of government is surpassed only by all other forms of government, but that doesn’t get it off the hook as an utter failure. Besides, we don’t even live in a democracy anymore. We live in an especially greedy form of oligarchy known as plutocracy. If orange is the new black, then plutocracy is the new tyranny. And it’s f##king up more shit than any other form of tyranny has in the whole of human history. If there’s ever been a reason to count coup on the enemy, it’s this. You want to unf##k the world? Then get out there and f##k up the unhealthy, unsustainable system that is systematically f##king everything else up. Practice ruthless non-violence and cold-blooded civil disobedience. But be prepared. Cops will hate you. All the spoon-fed comfort-junkies will hate you. All the blood-sucking bipartisan f##kers from f##k town will hate you. Your right-wing, head-up-its-elephants-ass conservative family will hate you. Even your left-wing, head-up-its-ass’s-ass liberal family will hate you. All the haters will hate you. But you know what?
The only people mad at you for speaking the truth are those people who are living a lie. Speak the truth anyway, even if it pisses off everyone you know. Like Gloria Steinem said, “The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off.” A huge part of unf##king the world is living by example and showing others how to unf##k themselves. And the only way to do that is to be brutally honest with the truth. Never underestimate the power of planting a seed of truth in a fertile mind. A young wannabe activist once asked me, “What if I get caught?” I said, “Motherf##ker, you’re already caught. What you should be asking is: what if I get free… And what you should be saying is: The fat-faced tyrants of f##kery may win in the end, but I’ll go down slinging my words in free-speech defiance while trumping them with swift circles of non-violence.” MLK Jr. would have been so proud. Okay, maybe not. But Malcom X would have had my back, for sure.
5.) Fall in Love; Kick Ass; Repeat
“Love does not imply pacifism.” –Derrick Jensen
If you’ve learned how to unf##k yourself and you’ve learned the art of not giving a f##k and you’ve become a well-armed lamb and you’re daily counting coup on tyranny, then you, my friend, have the world by the f##king balls. You have achieved the almost immortal status of getting power over power. You are a f##k-sight closer to achieving Ubermensch status than probably 99.999999% of the population. It’s time to fall in love: in love with the moment, with the universe, with your fellow man, even your enemy; a deep, carnal, agape love that shatters all love-molds. It’s the kind of love that sheds the clunky armor of invulnerability and dons the spiritual flexibility of absolute vulnerability. The kind of love that screams: “carpe the f##k out of that diem!” The beauty of being in this kind of love is that it gives you insurmountable courage. The kind of courage that rises up, draws a line in the sand, and declares to all forms of corruption and tyranny, “You no longer have permission to imprison what I love. I am no longer a slave. Nor will I allow you to enslave others. I am the David your overreaching Goliath heart has been waiting for. Your f##kery stops here!” Like Simone De Beauvoir ingeniously opined, “A freedom that is interested only in denying freedom must be denied.”

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Gary ‘Z’ McGee, a former Navy Intelligence Specialist turned philosopher, is the author of Birthday Suit of God and The Looking Glass Man. His works are inspired by the great philosophers of the ages and his wide awake view of the modern world.
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Lol! Never thought I'd see a Waking Times article posted on ZH.
So marry your sister. Oops, did we go too far?
This is not an easy task.
Most of the actions I come up with currently carry the death penalty.
up arrow, horseman.
(long lamp posts and rope)
Navy Intelligence Specialist... This guy can go #%+€< himself...
Be this guy? Im confident he was executed not long after this picture was developed.
It takes a lot of vagina to bring a giant hula hoop to a fascist rally.
Fascism is the marriage of corporation and state... Wait a minute! That describes the USA...
#6 Get a copy of The Book of The Subgenius and read it cover to cover daily.
Praise BoB !
6# nuke whole mid east
5.9# Deport first.
Can somebody forward this over to our hypocritical politicians, I fear they may never see this, coming.
This article starts from the premise that any one individual is ready to "unf##ck" themselves. Most people don't even realize the perfectly normal lives they lead are what's causing the grief. The level of spiritual ignorance in this country and abroad is run amok.
The challenge is to get people to want to question their current normalcy and evolve from there, because that involves pain and grief, literally.
I am Chumbawamba.
Boom.
no you're not...imposter
hey giraffe, you mean her?
http://i2.sell.com/u/6L/J/10546815-l.jpg bond girl Alotta Fagina in Austin Powers Bond parody.
Yeah baby!
So the guy in the last photo didn't have arms, hardly makes him a rebel.
The guy was August Landmessr, the photo was taken mid 1936 and he died late 1944. His (Jewish) wife was gassed in 1942 and their 2 daughters both survived the war.
Thanks.
I think that was made up :)
-Chumblez.
Only if they catch you.
Going Galt is still legal....so far.
i am john gault.
Love the chick pic.
Reminds me of Patsy Cline.
Just a closer walk with thee - Patsy Cline And Willie Nelsonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOKaircCiGI
Pray hard.
Yes, but could it also be yours?
Counting coup:
Counting coup refers to the winning of prestige in battle by the Plains Indians ofNorth America. Warriors won prestige by acts of bravery in the face of the enemy, and these acts could be recorded in various ways and retold as stories. Any blow struck against the enemy counted as a coup, but the most prestigious acts included touching an enemy warrior with the hand, bow, or with a coup stick then escaping unharmed.Touching the first enemy to die in battle or touching the enemy's defensive works also counted as coup. Counting coup could also involve stealing an enemy's weapons or horses tied up to his lodge in camp. Risk of injury or death was required to count coup.
By his inferance in the article in it's original definition you must risk death for the coup to count.
Hey, how did all that turn out for the Indians?
Counting coup refers to the winning of prestige in battle by the Plains Indians ofNorth America. Warriors won prestige by acts of bravery in the face of the enemy, and these acts could be recorded in various ways and retold as stories. Any blow struck against the enemy counted as a coup, but the most prestigious acts included touching an enemy warrior with the hand, bow, or with a coup stick then escaping unharmed.Touching the first enemy to die in battle or touching the enemy's defensive works also counted as coup. Counting coup could also involve stealing an enemy's weapons or horses tied up to his lodge in camp. Risk of injury or death was required to count coup.
Under the original definition, you must risk death for the coup to count, so that's basically a main qualifier.
nope your just getting started :)
Nature does not judge. it just tries and see what happens.
The bonobo monekeys seams to be very harmonies and uses sex as social bonding. sex for all, then everybody is nice to all since they are all related, no one knows who's kid is who's
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo
Point of order here, humans are not monkey's and sex with your siblings results in idiot monarchs who gets the rest of us killed.
As you were, carry on.
That's anti-Semitic...
Technically, I think it's anti-simian.
You're splitting hairs.
Splitting heirs, is it not
Incest is fine as long as it's performed by Chosenites...
i don't think that's really their thing.
when i think incest, i think redneck appalachian hillbillies, or european monarchy
"who gets the rest of us killed." if you do not fear death, you are alive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlZ0ulQ92uI
you sure we are not monkeys? here's funny perspective.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQOdNY-HdG0
Nice!
As far as I know, Stanley Anne didn't have any siblings, and certainly not black ones. Yet we still ended up with an idiot (wannabe)-monarch thanks to her.
To be fair incest isn't required to get idiot monarchs. It may make it easier, but it seems we've found a way around that.
Ah yes, the "it takes a village" clusterfuck plan which ensures degradation and debauchery. See "Clinton"....
if you can quite your mind and give up your programming for 5minutes. You may see something new and wonderous, something that may take that constant itch makes you feel like you have to do something. You can be fullfilled with no external need. You have it all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xCFoJ0aywc&list=PLYdWA4v3EGBwDJMfq-Qf8M...
Bunch of crap. Full of false logic and specious conclusions. If he could sell that drug he is on he would make a lot of money.
I used to be a convervative reblican in youth, thinking work ethic and success is the right thing to do. in high school I did not drink and was straight as an arrow. in colledge I ran into the party crowd and took LSD one night. I was shown the infinate beauty that is within our capcity to imagine. a glims of the awakening state ( the real transformation did not happen til 25yrs later, after life drilled the awaking to be more sustaining ) I see very few people in life who can imagine infinity. if you try something that is new to you then grow. repeat what you already know then you go in circles. drug can lower your escape velocity, acceptance of you own failures can lower your escape velocity to happiness.
The question is are you really happy? if yes then, just hang out where you are. If you are not happy? then you might want to take a risk and try something new. if it does not work you can go back. but to make a predetermine result of something you have not tried will just keep you in the same hamster mill. come take the risk of falling on your face, its fun.
Clinton = some village lost its idiot.
I fear that I may be a racist, or worse, a globalist! Because that caused me to recall the Nelson Mandela memorial service.
&^%$$#@@! Fake sign language?
That's why I did not watch it.
If you tied in the ejaculation bit then that really would have blown people's minds...
but then again if you understood that bit then your last comment would have had a sarc tag
Ye sherdn't of dern dat.......
funny how having nothing is happiness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFU6Cp44Ztc
I agree. I was hoping it was from the Whacking Times.
Times are changing! :)
Well said.
What the **** is this shyt Zero Hedge? It must be a slow Sunday night...
“Governments, if they endure, always tend increasingly toward aristocratic forms. No government in history has been known to evade this pattern. And as the aristocracy develops, government tends more and more to act exclusively in the interests of the ruling class -- whether that class be hereditary royalty, oligarchs of financial empires, or entrenched bureaucracy.”
? Frank Herbert
Caution, SLOW CHILDREN
Rainy days and mondays with a full moon always get me down, SUCKER!
The most important thing anyone can contribute to the future of humanity, is TO STOP HITTING YOUR KIDS!
Adverse Childhood experiences = violent future adults
The fucking Neanderthals on this site downvoted you. FOX News morons, all of them. Zerohedge used to be good - but now its full of shit.
Fuck that. Kids used to get hit and punished, and they used to act right. I'm 29, and I can tell you this generation of teenagers is the most spoiled and entitled bunch of shitheads this country has ever produced. Parents no longer punish or teach their own children , and leave that up to the govt schools to do. And govt does about as good of a job raising kids as it does managing an economy, by which I mean it royally fucks it up.
Reading what you have written is like a 5 year old regurgitating some obscure or advanced factoid...wow you say, what a smart young man!
By the way how many children have you successfully raised to adulthood???????
I feel sorry for people who have children
I feel sorry for people who don't and then I remember how many bad parents there are. It's cool. Myself and the other great parents will raise the next generation of leaders.
we don't want leaders
,,, nor followers.
Hitting kids is the same argument about guns. The tool can be used badly or used well. Unfortunately, in the majority of cases it is used badly. Discipline requires DISCIPLINE from the parent! And by the the time that most parents use violence to react to their kids, it is done in anger. If a child sees violent action in anger, they learn that when they feel anger, they act violently. In the cases where the parents are acting rationally, and completely consistently, and the act is clearly attached to the transgression in the child's mind (i.e. must be temporally close to the event), the appropriate message can be sent. But that's a tall order.
As a parent, in the situations where physical discipline would have been appropriate raising my kids (three times, total), I never was calm enough in the moment to be able to use it. As such, I never touched my kids. I used my voice, and to be honest, my voice scared them as much as any physical act could have. I will never forget the look on my kids faces when I became enraged. I regret it, because they saw me out of control. I count myself lucky that they do not have a memory of physical violence in that context.
To the point of the original poster on this corporal punishment thread, I agree that the vast majority of the violence in the world traces back to violence of the childhoods of the psychos who so willingly send young men to die.
You are seeing the results of no leadership. We need leaders or we are fucked.
Leaders is what got us into this mess in the first place.
We need more selves.
You are confusing no leadership with bad leadership. Or maybe you are confusing bad followers with bad leadership.
Why humans like to submit...
http://youtu.be/YlyaoyYQxr4
Fuck the leaders.
I feel sorry for children who do not have two loving parents, one of each gender. Unfortunately the US has allowed the proliferation of single-parent households, which generally are less successful when it comes to raising children.
If I didn't believe in liberty, I'd go so far as to sugest that one (two, actually) should have a license to have children: a (traditional) marriage license.
I have never hit my kid. I have yelled. I feel awful about it. He is in college on several scholarships. We will see what comes next. He does have the annoying quality of telling the truth (to a fault, Dudley do Right) and calling other people out on their bullshit. It is not always easy. He is not perfect, but he is respectful and does not want to hurt any one. He never asks for anything, birthday and Christmas are very difficult for this parent. I love him so and I am so glad he does not know violence like I did.
The ones that were hit, need to justify it. Otherwise they have to face what it means about their childhood and grieve.
My dad used to whip me with his belt. I hated that. He was always drunk when he did it. I didn't do that to my kids.
Didn't want to waste a good buzz...
The details of my life are quite inconsequential... very well, where do I begin? My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds- pretty standard really. At the age of twelve I received my first scribe.
Lordy, you sound like Austin Powers...
Then you must be Belgian, and go by the name of Dr. Evel.
I really do not understand angry drunks. I am so silly and affectionate, it blows my mind when an angry drunk wants to waste the buzz on that, I get it!
I chose the wrench!
Why?
'Cuz fuck him - that's why.
That's a Good choice, takes lotsa Will power. You might gets some bites, here. Happy Hunting.
Full circle XR. You are on the right path.
On Corporal Punishment-
As father to a son and daughter we had five things that would warrent a spanking;
-Endangering yourself
-Endangering others
-Lying
-Stealing
-Being rude to your mother....not enforced very often!
I cannot remember every needing to swat my daughter.
My son and I were walking to the ice cream store when he was three and in spite of being told to stop at the corner he ran into the street...that was the second to last time I ever layed a finger on him.
The last time was when he was twelve and challanged the grayback with some "Fuck-off" type language.
He recieved a three finger slap across his face, was spun around and kicked in the ass----his politness level remains high even now, sixteen years later.
Dog
EDIT- All other infractions resulted in a trip to the dining room for anywhere between a 15 and a 60 minute boring as hell discission with Dad on why whatever they did was not a good idea and would not reoccur.
My son is a successful fishing guide and my daughter is a doctor now.
Good policy. Some kids need copral punishment, some don't, depends on the kid. Should be used sparingly, but sometimes is needed. Disagree with parents how use it for every little thing.
So, you hit your son rarely and he turned out better than other kids who were hit more often. Imagine that instead of instilling fear (with violence) of walking into the street you sat him down in the dining room and explained that he could have died, how precious life is, and how awareness is important to survival.
That would have gotten a better result.
He was three years old and his reasoning seemed a tad underdevoloped. PLUS, he had been warned at the previous corner.
If his reasoning was a tad underdeveloped, why did you think warning him would work?
You should have been holding his hand or carrying him. The fact that he ran into the street is YOUR fault.
You should read "Starship Troopers," by R. Heinlein
had 4 boys, one got hit once on the but with one wack, other wise, none got time outs, restrictions, or hits, and no "did you do your homework" comments. They turned out fine. And I didnt berate them or say bad things at them.
in this sentence is the best way to unf(®)(®)ck the world.
TITIIIIIIIES BICHEZ !!!
And it takes one to know one here.
You skipped the 50+ years where kids were getting hit by their parents AND their "Schoolmasters," but fuck that, right? Your generation of beaten, downtrodden youth built this utopian society we all live in now! What wonderful moral scruples the Baby Boomers have. How comforting to know that they and the generations before them NEVER engaged in Imperialist wars of aggression, and were certainly not so psychologically damaged to consent to collectivized entities like the Great Society, New Deal, Federal Reserve, Prohibition, War on Drugs, slavery...
...wait. Fuck.
You wanna hit your kid, I suppose none of us can stop you. But if you're going to play the game of "Worst Generation," the kids of today have nothing on the old fuckers who destroyed this place.
Im not saying you should send your kids to government schools, I am an anarchist after all.
However, all of the empirical research proves that punishment, spanking, time outs, shaming, and guilt tripping turns your child into a sociopath
99% of the time you don't want or need to hit your kids. 1% of the time you do and that is what makes the other 99% work out right. Learning the physical consequence is only accomplished by by experiencing it.
However, in the first real time study of stay at home moms, the average mom estimated that they hit their child less than 5 times a month. The study recorded the households and found average of 19 strikes per week, on children as young as 2.
Perhaps. But that Timeout bullshit is a fucking farce !!
It depends..... consistent consequences, proportional and fair to the fuck up are what works in the long run.... making a hyperactive kid sit still on a chair in time out can be worse than an ass whippin..... I'd take the ass whippin in a heart beat.... it's over quicker.... (not talkin a beating here.....)
Also, if you know where your kid lives, you got all you need. No anger or drama necessary. All I had to do was take away the toy of the moment, I got compliance. Later when he figured out what I was up to, he decided to disengage from the toy. Fine. I kept taking as much out of his room as I needed to. Those toys and the computer are not necessities. He got it. Life ain't much fun if you decide to act like a jerk.
Meanwhile, he was never that far out there, I almost wish he had been a little. Timeout usually did the trick when he was little. But you are correct in my experience, consistency.
daughter spanked once
son spanked 3 times....
after that, "the Voice™" sufficed.
Spoke to them ALOT about EVERYTHING (still do) .
Older one on 4 year scholarship...
younger "3-spanker".... his world, our Times, his sensitive disposition... I worry a bit more
I got a bar of soap in my mouth, later on i tried to stick it up the old ladys ass to clean up the problem(s) there, but she didn't like that so much.
When raising my kids I told them "my mouth will talk to your ears two times. If that fails my hand will talk to your bottom." This way they had time to process what I was asking. I would remind them- this is the second time I have asked you to stop- what will happen next? They would stop. This worked but what I found most effective was acknowledging the behavior I wanted to see. Catch them doing something right. Stop what your doing and give them a hug- tell them thanks for sharing without being asked or your room looks good or that was nice the way you waited patiently for me while I paid the cashier. My kids are 25 and 23- they are really good people- hard working, caring people.
There's a very good reason why this was effective. Ever heard of Harry Harlow or Eckhart Hess? Couple 'o psychiatrists who did some experiments on behaviorism with regard to parenting in the age when torturing animals for experiments and hitting kids were both still fashionable. Milgram did experiments along these lines, too.
http://youtu.be/ixQbCXLUUj8?t=6m22s
Turns out that when young animals are given the choice between a) A "mother" who is unloving but provides food/water, b) A cuddly "mother" that provides no nourishment, and c) An additional cuddly "mother" that actively punishes its young, group C is BY FAR the most clingy, dependant, and deferential to authority. In other words, a blend of positive and negative reinforcement is the best way to create a cognitively dissonant order follower. Just like Mommy and Daddy Government do. You didn't raise your kids, you conditioned them, just as you had been by your society and parents before them. Yet the "vicious cycle" gets upvoted. 19+ terrible fucking parents and counting, as of now...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAJT77FSvxs#t=2052
"SIR, DO NOT VERBALLY RESIST OR I WILL TAZE YOU. I REPEAT, DO NOT VERBALLY RESIST."
-A Mom in 2045
You can't have a free society unless people can learn to control themselves. Corporal punishment is needed in some cases (not all, depends on the person) when parenting, so children can learn self control. Without self control people's lives can become a mess and that makes them more dependent on daddy government than anything else. Of course that is only one aspect of parenting, teaching your children about liberty,the bill of rights, and resisting tyranny is important too, but that must come after they learn self control.
I agree with your first sentence wholeheartedly, but hardly with your short-sightedness in how to attain such a society. To instill self-control, you'll use the same totalitarian tactics as the State? Surely this won't perpetuate the problem of the State, creating a society of obedient order-followers! There's so much cognitive dissonance in your statement it makes me wonder how you can fit so many contradictory ideas into one sentence.
A.E. Fisher did some similar experiments on puppies, you know. Puppies from Group A were universally punished for approaching researchers. Group B puppies were universally loved for approaching researchers. Group C puppies, however, received love and punishment at completely random intervals. Without question, every time the experiment was repeated, Group C puppies were the most attached to the researchers, or "authority figures." Are we seeing a pattern yet? It's almost like mixing positive and negative reinforcement at key developmental stages is a scientific recipe for creating obedient little Nazis. Wonder why Corporatist/.gov propaganda operates on exactly the same principle...
Sure, kids aren't born with rationality, morality, or self-control. But you know that "Why?" phase that all kids inevitably seem to enter in early childhood? The phase where a child's mental operating system almost seems to be yearning for answers, in which the foundation for rationality and morality can be properly "formatted" by an intelligent, patient, and non-forceful parent? Maybe that's the time when it's most important to NOT hit your kids, yet most parents do the opposite. But hey, using the Socratic method on your toddler takes time, and Daddy just had a long day at the office, so you're getting spanked "because I say so."
Is that how we create a free society? A few more kids raised on the creedo of, "Because I say so," accompanied with a firm slap across the cheek? I sincerely hope you'll realize how silly what you've just said is upon further reflection, as you seem too intelligent to fall into such a justification for child abuse.
+1 awsome
There sure seems to be a lot of generalisation and conjecture in this sermon. Not to mention B&W exclusiveness. "Socratic method" vs "forceful parent" with no shades of gray and no regard to the myriad of possible circumstances. Is "Daddy just had a long day at the office" really the only reason children ever get spanked and is "because I say so" really the only explanation ever offered by parents?
The experimental examples are also a bit disingenious...
A) Universal punishment
B) Universal love
C) Random punishment
Where's the D option?
The one in which punishment is applied to rectify child's behavior when nothing else works?
You've missed the point of these behavioristic experiments entirely.
Moral code was never a variable, as these are puppies, baby monkeys, and ducklings we're talking about, not human beings. Even if there were moral reasoning for the positive and negative reinforcement, the animal mind simply can't distinguish between them; it can only respond by altering its behavior. Exactly like the mind of a child. The only conclusion we can draw concretely from such Skinnerian work is that a blend of positive and negative reinforcement during adolescence inherently breeds dependence.
Even in some hyporthetical la-la land where positive and negative ethics could be objectively reinforced 100% of the time, (and they can't be, because parents aren't robots,) you'd produce a very well-mannered child that was, you guessed it, still inherently deferential to authority. At some level, you've created an order-follower the second you raised your hand to "correct" bad behavior.
I've heard it said that Freedom is the precious momens of Choice we're afforded between Stimulus and Response. You want an order-follower, buy a dog.
The reason I might have missed the point of those behavioristic experiments is that I don't really see a correlation between a dog and a child. Obviously, the option D that I asked for cannot be applied to dogs, but you are the one that is seemingly drawing a parallel.
Naturally, reasoning is the best approach in raising one's children, but there comes a time when reason does not work and one is left with a choice of a "raised hand" or letting the child having their way (even to their own detriment).
No, I don't want an order-follower, but I don't want a spoiled brat either.
So, what should I buy? A cat?
I do sincerely appreciate this discourse, and having admittedly never been a parent, I'm sure there are a great number of aspects in child rearing I am completely ignorant of. Perhaps my ignorance will run head-on with an inconsolable child at some point in my future. I just don't think that of all the mammals on the planet, one select group, human children (who are arguably more like animals than at any other time in life) are somehow immune to authority deference developing when being hit in adolescence. If anything, the society we live in shows that they are perhaps the most susceptible to this type of conditioning on the planet. Our Overlords, after all, funded the shit out of Freud, Bernays, Skinner, et. al. to figure out just that.
Are you familiar with John Taylor Gatto, by chance? New York City and State Teacher of the Year for 30+ years. Up and quit upon the realization that, according to him, schooling itself was child abuse. He's spent the last 20 years of his life writing history books investigating how American education came to this sordid state, and his investigation incriminates many of the people funding the very psychologists noted herein. You might not agree with everything the guy has to say, but I guarantee you'll learn a few new things if you hear him out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQiW_l848t8&list=PL99WUIhEmvYqG-rXGA50PJ...
As for pets, I'm a ferret man myself. Ferrets don't give a fuck what you do and never will. My kinda dudes.
Not to agree or disagree but I have a question. What if the parents are fucked up. Where does that leave the kids who don't really have good role models. Daycare centers?? Parked in front of the TV?? I am guessing most ZH'ers wouldn't want the state to intervene " IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CHILDREN". /s So where are the grandparents or extended family or the community to make sure the state stays out of it. as somone with a fucked up family I'm glad I grew up before it was the norm to dope up young males.
casinos are well aware that gambling is best reinforced with randomness. just cus a behavior can be controled does not mean it's a good thing to do so.
"Children Learn What They Live"
$100 says Jamie Dimon's parents never hit him
(long more lamp posts and rope)
no the sociopaths at the top prefer to butt fuck 'em
Be sure to use the "right" rope and technique.
http://deathpenaltycurriculum.org/student/c/about/methods/hanging.htm
The minority community has a fix in for this:
1) Go on welfare
2) F##k all of your babys mommas and skip town cuz Uncle Sam be supportin em
3) Junior grows up less one mean ass rotten SOB to beat them
Voila...problem solved.
disagree. the "minority" community I have witnessed, had a women at home only, and she was a mean bitch. The kids got a bad deal. And the amount of young people I have known from that community, almost ALL had no dad around, some ever, and it just was so much worse than it had to be.
if the ppl in charge were a lil bit more beated the shit out they may not have act like they don't give a fuck about futur generations...
Anarchist
A friend of mine recently died of cancer. I hadn't known him long but I made his aquaintance because he was awoken, a really bright guy He was maybe 60 y.o... He grew up on the farm and came from a family with 12 kids. He told me that his father gave him two beatings and he remembered both of them. " And you know what !! HE WAS RIGHT". <--- his exact words
I on the other hand got so many beatings I lost count. Dad , to a lesser degree my mother and even big sister got her slaps in. I say this merely as an anecdote. My older sister got authority, I was to be obedient.
I would like to agree with you. I've forgotten why I got those beatings where my friend didn't I think children mimik their parents behaviour even though they are unique human beings. Punishing a child for doing what they see others doing around them is wrong. I am not violent but I carry the trauma to this day and my family can have as much fun as they can without me.
Seriously...fuck yeah. Finally an inspiring article, written by a good writer. Vulgarity is a fucking art form!
You're the vulgarian you f#ck!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaiUqapF9Y4
I still believe I have maintained my New Years resolution...could be wrong though.
I would argue the greatest lie ever perpetrated on the world is that the USA is a "trading empire.". I would argue strongly that the USA is the largest autarkic state since Rome.
Certainly the bulk of American law is based upon this precept. At the end of the day " you're just a worker unit" in the USA.
There is a large component of "sydicalism" in the US polity as well. "Go work for the firm" and "send you out to The Farm" etc.
Ironic that there is a movement to protect one's identity as it presupposes we ever had one...let alone somehow lost it.
If we did have an identity how did we lose it? Lack of media?
Or were We the People "invaded" somehow....
...you getting warm
You have a financial identity, that's the one being protected, we lost it through cocaine, hypocrisy and capitalism, yes, we were invaded, somehow.
That fixes that. united states of America operates constitutionally. United States of America operates under code with occasional homage to the dusty document to keep the contracted employees complacent...
be contrary to the contrary and where do you end up?
we cant make a circles do....
Be this guy.
Really? Zero Hedge readers are now all "seig heiling" their asses off. Bunch of fucking neo nazis. And go ahead and downvote me, you fucking cretins. I shit in your open mouths.
How to win friends and influence absolutely no one.
In your defense, they do seem like quite the anti-semitic bunch!
Ummm and I would guess that some of their Daddies were card carrying members of the KKK and still might attend meetins. and you might want to ad Misogyny to that list.....
Stupid is as stupid does..... but it can be very entertaining from time to time....
Uhp sounds like the ZH fight club...... got to be taken in right doses in the right frame of mind......
Did you insipid cunts have a meeting earlier, or what?
You know - it's not like there isn't a whole world of mainstream media out there that sitfles just the speech you want stifled, and maligns just the groups you want maligned.
You people are the sort of assholes who claim that it is "hate" to point out FUCKING WAR CRIMES if done by a certain group, because, you see, they can never, ever do any wrong... which is... well, actually it's the very definition of RACIST and stupid, and if nothing else, you handful of tedious clowns ought to at least do this board the respect of getting some new material.
Showing up to dispense ad hominems isn't the same thing as showing up to fight/have an argument.
Somewhere along the line, you handful of ignoranti forgot that. But I'm sure the moral high horse feels comfortable on your prodigious asses.
A glimpse into a powerful hasbara organizationCounter Punch is evidently a David Duke Devotee. From his linked website....."
Adolf Hitler, the Man who Fought the Bank
Yeah, that's all poor Adolf was up to. Just wanted to fight the banksters! How does it feel to be a Hitler, Duke associate? Fool!
hitler blamed the depression on banksters. and used jews as the escape coat. to kill 6million people there must be some truth to the manipulation and propaganda. he tapped into the capacity of people to judge others to deflect their own responsiblilty. all anger come from this deflection. I fear people's judgements o f hitler hinders the the lessons we could be learning or the pain will be repeated. compassion and understand why hitler came to be may be more fruitful. just saying he is random evil does not serve you.
Listen, you remind me of that other Bangalore person, only more sane, and how I haven't missed him at all.
If zh'ers said that all Jews are parasitic, scum sucking soul-less pieces of shit, you would be right. Strangely, though, the closest I see to that is a zh'er here and there point out that most parisitic, scum sucking soul-less piece of shit BANKERS also happen to be jewish... Which is not anti-semitism... It is fact..
Causation or correlation? Please explain.
Antisemitic? Does that mean they're against Palestinians?
You had a problem seeing the solitary guy with the big circle around him in the photo while everyone else was "seig heiling" their asses off didn't you?
What a dumbass. Ya that is one of my favorite pictures of all time. I wish they had that in fucking poster form. That guy was a fucking boss.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute
Hitler was big on imagery and stole a lot of it from other cultures. The swastika was an ancient Buddhist symbol and yet Hitler adopted it as a symbol of Aryan purity. Go figure.
History is a wonderful thing, huh?
Too bad they don't teach it in schools.
sure they teach it in schools - that's the whole point of winning wars, so that you can be the one to write history.
Yes, plus one.
And from this single seed of truth & knowledge, this poisonous root-stock of national socialism, even now at this late hour, a sweet fruit can still be harvested from the tree of liberty.
The kiddes don't know Rusty, its the only reason I hang around. Patriotism can be a vice or a virtue, depending on what you fight to protect.
Mine has always been us, you & I. Governments come and go, the people (us) always remain.
I have no idea what BernankeHasHemorrhoids could observe in an ocean of self delusion and promises soon to be broken that the rest of us couldn't even with a circle drawn around it (lol, for reference) but there has to be a name for it.
I'm gonna say singular mass psychosis rejection...its a comforting thought to those involved.
It just didn't happen ;-)
Then go away!
Hey, if you are looking for down or junk votes, posts like that just don't cut it.... you need to go pull of some of Robo Traders comments..... man do I miss the boy, now that was a first class troll......
His mom is still posting from time to time..... I am sure she can whip you into shape if you want to be her "adopted son"...
You are "on" tonight in my book. I got your back!
Here’s the thing: the earth is not f##ked. The earth will go on evolving with or without us. In fact, in many ways it is better off without us. No, it’s the human world that’s f##ked.
George Carlin must be one of the philosophers he studies.
George Carlin - "The Planet is fine, the people are fucked!" -Pack your bags bitchez....