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Americans Are 'Different' From The Rest Of The World
In most wealthy countries, people tend to believe in evolution. But, as Vox.com notes, The US is an exceptional lonely dot far, far below the others, as this chart from the now-defunct webcomic Calamities of Nature shows:
How many Americans believe in evolution depends slightly upon how you frame the question. Tony Piro, who created this chart, used a question that refers to human beings developing "from earlier species of animals." Other polls that simply ask whether humans have evolved over time (without referring to animals) find a slightly higher percentage of Americans believing in evolution, around 60 percent. That would still make the US an outlier among rich countries, though.
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What if the speed of light is actually slowing down? What if the speed of light is not constant? Will that throw all of your scientific calculations off? Could the Earth and the universe actually be much, much younger? What if?
We are building DVD players, LED screen TV sets, smartphones and many more nice things today that all are based somewhere on the THEORY that the speed of light is constant. And guess what, all that stuff is working. Seems to me there must be some truth in that theory. What if some day some guy presents hard evidence that the speed of light is not constant? Well, if it´s really evidence than we will include that in our general theories of nature. Till then we go on working with the theory that the speed of light is constant. And believe me, that theory works EXTREMLY WELL SO FAR.
what if? what if? what if? ad infinitum, you can always say whatever you want to if it makes you feel better, but it doesn't change the facts
And here I thought the Scopes monkey trial was gone history. Stupidity seems not only to be infinite, but also eternal.
Darwinism is not a science but a primitive shamanistic religion. Darwinism is a pseudoscience, a philosophy, created to take God out of the picture. That’s evolution's appeal. Evolution is claimed to be a fact, but you can't have the fact of evolution unless you have the fact of abiogenesis.
The beast of diversity is meant to destroy America and her Christian faith with multiculturalism. Bolshevism's primary enemy in its plan for world control is God.
There continues to be widening literature, books and papers criticizing aspects of Darwin evolution that cannot be substantiated. As well, many important scientists can see evidence that Darwin evolution is making unfounded assumptions on macro changes in organisms and all they ask is to allow America’s students to hear these problems and decide for themselves if these observations are true. The Establishment cannot permit this open discussion of problems with evolution unless they stack the deck such as in the following debate as evidenced by the setup of two speakers against one (Meyer) and when those two were losing their propositions, they were joined by Jewish Leftist host Ira Plato making it three to one.
#199 Debate - Kenneth Miller & Lawrence Krauss vs Stephen C. Meyer - How Evolution Is Taught - 2002
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aweXbnpyBMM
In the Old Testament alone two thousand predictive prophecies, incredibly specific and detailed, already have been fulfilled. In all the writings of Buddha, Confucius, and Lao, you will not find a single example of predicted prophecy. In the Koran there is only one—a self-fulfilling prophecy that Mohammad himself would return to Mecca.
Is there a God or not? That questions eclipses all others. So much so that Mortimer Adler states in the Great Ideas Syntopicon, the study guide for the Great Books series - a collection of the combined wisdom of Western civilization form the time of Thales to the present: “With the exception of certain mathematicians and physicists, all authors of the Great Books are represented in the chapter on God.”
The reason is obvious. All consequences for thought and action follow the affirmation or denial of God.
It was the rules of man – atheism (now using the guise of evolution) – that provided absolutely no limits, no standards, that ushered in totalitarianism – a boot stamping on a human face — forever. The prime example is Bolshevik Russia.
It was Soviet Communism that turned a society into a gulag, to death, to the evil dictates of atheist man – a Stalin, a Lenin, a Trotsky…
The Bible is God’s guide for man’s walk on his Creation, and unlike the laws of man it is not compromised, it doesn’t change. Discard Christianity and society reaps the atheist whirlwind. Discard God for godless Bolshevism as is happening in the European Union and the next sound will be the gulag's silent scream.
Richard Dawkins, author of The Blind Watchmaker and one of the world's preeminent evolutionists, was right when he said that Darwin made the world safe for atheism.
Atheism is post-religionism. Religion is for primatives and the desperate
Rich and poor don’t have anything to do with it. But being “kept” has a lot to do with it. Most of the “rich” nations shown here are being kept by their natural resources (Norway and her oil) that they didn’t earn and/or by the umbrella of military and financial protection by the United States (the UK) so that they can be puppet states.
The search to justify evolution has been nothing more than a way to deny a Creator with some of the most ridiculous, absurd, childish pretend evidence (myths) ever concocted by man. The fact remains, life comes only from preexisting life.
Consider:
“Protein molecules are necessary for the function of a cell. A typical protein molecule consists of hundreds of amino acids strung together in a specific sequence. Additionally, the protein molecule must fold into a specific three-dimensional shape for it to be useful. Some scientists conclude that the odds of even one protein molecule forming spontaneously are extremely improbable. ‘Since a functioning cell requires thousands of different proteins,’ writes physicist Paul Davies, ‘it is not credible to suppose they formed by chance alone.’”
That is also dogmatism. You're replacing religion and superstition, elements of humanity since it's beginning, with the behavior of automatons and expecting humans to simply accept it.
By making statements like that, you're denying your own humanity. We are not omniscient beings, we cannot know everything. Our limited minds simply cannot know it all. Because of this, there will be incalculably large amounts of data that our human minds will lack in our day-to-day living. Even our own experiences we will forget, or muddle with time.
It is therefore ridiculous to expect humanity to give up believing in something. You can say, "Those old religions are wrongheaded and silly." and you might be right, but you cannot rationally suggest that humans stop believing in anything. That is absurd on it's face.
Think about where you are (sitting?) right now. Do you know what is behind you? You don't until you look and see with your own eyes. Well, what does your mind do with it's blind spots? That's right, it projects a belief of what it last saw sitting at rest behind you, unless it knows otherwise. That's belief. It's the border where human sensory and mental capability ends and sanity takes precedence. Belief is a requirement of human existence.
I'll be the first to argue that belief should not stand in the way of the scientific method. But NEITHER SHOULD DOGMATIC ATHEISM LOOK DOWN ON BELIEF.
Spoken like a real native of 13th century Europe...
I am a native of 17th century Christian America.
Without the Christian principles that formed America's beginnings, the less fortunate around the globe would never have been given the opportunity to share in the incredible economic boom that was called the free enterprise system. That system came from our forefathers' belief in God, liberty and property - in that order.
The proof of God is all about you; the order and complexity of the universe and of living things have convinced man from his beginnings that there is an Organizer and Designer. Follow the evidence.
Christianity, unlike Science, is SO pure and correct...especially as practiced by Americans such that we've never KILLED a single human being in the name of Christianity. Read the New Testament and please tell me what Jesus says about war, killing folks, and the way our free enterprise economy treats the less fortunate. Because let me tell you, I don't see a lot of the rich being very charitable in this country...and I'm pretty sure they would consider themselves upright & good Christians.
Now...I think the writings of Jesus were profound. I think his teachings are worthy of study and being followed. I try to apply them in my everyday life. What AMERICA has, in general, done in the name of Christianity is an abomination of Christianity...and to that end, most of the teachings of Science are MUCH more humane than the human application of so called 'Christianity' I see - not only in modern day life, but throughout the ages.
Based on what I see in terms of how Christianity (and all major religions, for that matter) is being applied, the Devil is winning. And the Devil isn't Science ... it is MAN.
Wow JR that sounds like a great argument. Too bad "Darwinism" is not the same thing as the theory of evolution/natural selection. In fact, and oddly enough, "Social Darwinism" was a ridiculously and incorrectly simplified version of the idea of natural selection as applied by hacks that wanted to believe they were scientists (i.e., economists) to the financial and economic activities of man; and the robber barons of the late 1800s and early 1900s embraced it because it enabled them to relieve themselves of the guilt they felt for treating their fellow man like chattel. "Darwinism" is no more science than your argument is correct.
I don't believe in the Internet or oil refined into gasoline or computers or humans or space or GPS or radio waves or surface mount technology or Semiconductors or electricity or small pox or turds. However let me tell you about Austrian economic theory and how it represents all that is right about the universe.
Where is the evidence on transitionals?
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A. There isnt any.
I thought the wicked witch died under a falling house??? Did I miss something?
wicked witches evil bitches.
plenty to be found, tortured and punished
since Eve ate of the forbidden fruit, knowledge.
evil witch the downfall of pure man, his Father kicked him out of the Garden because he consorted with evil witch-bitches, who desire Knowledge hidden.
it's a global meme - you can see it at work daily.
I never said I "believed" that man "evolved" from apes. I said that "Evolution is a theory that happens to fit the set of facts currently available".
That means, until someone comes up with a better and more satisfying explanation, I'll accept the one that fits the best. Science is a process, not an end-game. In order for something to be scientific, it has to follow the method. "Believing" is not a method, it's intellectual laziness (a mindset, by the way, that is necessary for human sanity).
+100
And the biggest sky fairy of all is The Free Market.
+100
Too funny Carl. But seriously, the graph is skewed. If the latin american countries were shown, the usa's dot would not be so lonely. All those tatts of the virgin down there and all.
If our little orange dot heads west at a good clip, pretty soon we won't be very different at all.
I think that's the plan, shorty.
Well, actually, I think you DO believe in theories. You have facts, and you have theories that explain the facts, so you BELIEVE the theory is true. A theory is never proven to be true. It is only proven to be false when contradicted by facts. You BELIEVE a theory as long as it is not contradicted by facts, and your BELIEF increases as more facts fail to contradict it. Newton's theory of gravity, fundamentally false, but a useful approximation so you BELIEVE predictions based on that theory so long as you're not dealing with large concentrations of energy. For large concentrations of energy, you believe the results of Einstein's theory above Newton's theory. Theory of evolution? Lots of facts support it, so we believe it is true. But it is never proven true.
Existentialism had it right. How you act reflects what you believe. If you act based upon the "facts," then that is what you believe. Of courses some facts do change, but some less so than others.
just laugh as the truth is funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQOdNY-HdG0
Why not believe in a theory? A lot in science is about believing. Ofcourse this is not admitted, but hidden by searching and preferring certain facts while withholding others that contradict the personal opinion. Supporting or accepting a theory is in most cases believing in the "facts". And the "facts" often are much less objective and factual than the believers of the theory admit.
Academics like to hide the fact, that on universities not critical thinking is resulting in good exams, but repeating 1:1 what the lecturer wants to hear. And later in the job the same is true. In fact what academics really learn, is to clothe an opinion or believe as scientific fact. vAnd you don't find one in hundredthousand academics that admits that.
I don't say that empiric scientific methodology has no merits. It has huge merits! But it's only very rarely practized, but instead it's about giving a certain believe a scientific clothing.
Regardless of where you live, if you want to believe you descended from apes go right ahead. Nothing is stopping you. But if you laugh at Americans who don't believe in evolution, then the joke is on you.
Guess what, i KNOW even YOU descended from apes.
I know we didn't desend from apes, because if we had, we would be a lot smarter and
peel bananas from the bottom like apes because it is a lot easier.
I peel bananas from the bottom. Always have. Hadn't noticed that few others do ...
Easy, bro.
Religious people take their insane beliefs pretttty seriously.
Have you seen the Muslim? Whoa.
Okay bitch, this is Fight Club and it's time to go. First of all, this has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with FACTS. Evolutionists want to point to SOME fossils but not ALL fossils. How do you account for the elongated (Nefertiti?) skulls that have been found in several different locations on Earth? How do you explain the giant skeletons that have been found which range from 9-30+ feet tall? They were the spawn of apes? Sure they were! Search-engine this and see for your self.
skull banding created warped skull shapes and no such giant skeletons have ever - ever been found.
famiiarize yourself with photoshop, son.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_cranial_deformation
You're using Wikipedia for a scientific reference? That takes balls.
You mean Big Foot? Yeah, he's around.
Muslim/Islam isn't a religion, it's a system of government dominance.
I used to believe as you do.When I graduated from high school.Then,I went to university,then medical school,then did postdoctoral study at the University of Texas and the National Institutes of Health,published several articles in refereed journals,as well as reading the works of Soren Kierkegard,,and Jaroslav Pelikan's 5 volume series on the developement of Christian doctrine,as well as Calvin's INSTTUTES OF THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION,and the Bible about 20 times,and the works of the Australian philosopher David Stove,and I saw through the ignorant propaganda I'd be fed as a boy.
I'm not even going to ask you how you know something that appears to be materialist drivel to me...
17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
1 Corinthians 1dont get mad, he is just an ape, you silly monkey
<sigh> We Americans really are a bunch of dumb, semi-sentient, war mongering monkeys.
Imagine how much more fcked the world would be if there weren't two oceans on each side to cage us in.
"Imagine how much more fcked the world would be if there weren't two oceans on each side to cage us in."
That didn't work very well. Ask a native American in either north or south America.
No, you missed the point about evolution.
America is like the Galapagos islands, so remote from the main land that strange and bizarre creatures can flourish due to the lack of intellectual competition.
Without the two oceans, all the unfit would have been wiped out. Just watch what happens as the Internet replaces TV.
had a common ancestor....
Observations are made every day in laboratories around the world that are consistent with, and predicted by, the Theories of Evolution and Natural Selection. There are literally buildings full of data that support these theories, and zero facts contradicting them. Either the Theory of Evolution or the Theory of Global Warming is the best supported theory in the history of science. If any theory is to be believed, it is the Theory of Evolution.
Name one of each,old man-with citations.
We breathlessly await.
What a comment.
It ranks right up there with
"It has been shown.."
And
"Studies have demonstrated.."
Where are these buildings full of facts to which you are privy?
With bombast like yours,no wonder so many of my blessed countrymen are dubious!
http://listverse.com/2011/11/19/8-examples-of-evolution-in-action/
http://myxo.css.msu.edu/PublicationSearchResults.php?group=mr
http://myxo.css.msu.edu/PublicationSearchResults.php?group=teh
1982
Reznick, D. N. and J. E. Endler. The impact of predation on life history evolution in Trinidadian guppies (Poecilia reticulata). Evolution 36:160?177.
Reznick, D. N. Genetic determination of offspring size in the guppy (Poecilia reticulata). American Naturalist 120:181?188.
Reznick, D. N. The impact of predation of life history evolution in Trinidadian guppies: the genetic components of observed life history differences. Evolution 36:1236?1250.
1983
Reznick, D. N. The structure of guppy life histories: the tradeoff between growth and reproduction. Ecology 64:862?873.
https://www.d.umn.edu/~jetterso/documents/Endler1980.pdf
http://myxo.css.msu.edu/papers/nature2003/Nature03_Complex.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._coli_long-term_evolution_experiment
There is much, much, much more. Go explore.
The theory about gravity is pretty good too.
You put global warming (a religion) in the same sentence as evolution? Ouch.
I don't know about laughing, but it is clearly rational to believe theories that are supported by lots of facts, and irrational not to.
Natural selection amongst humans is most evident in places that humans were forced to competete with each other for the best possible land and resources. Everyone else only exists because of remoteness, isolation and unfavorable conditions. How's that?
nice, still leaves a few questions...
Go ahead. I have a few answers.
mainly questions to go deeper- reasons; climate, resources, ect. i think we are in agreeance. again, nice without questions...
We need to value Commonwealth, our communities, religion is not working right now in the USA is it? See it everyday on ZH. Stack, but then a verse.
True religion values it's people above all, and is based on wisdom and ethics.
There is nothing natural in this selective immoral fraudulant money ponzi game, let's end this era.
"We need to value Commonwealth, our communities, religion is not working right now in the USA is it?"
What religion is that? We're a multicultural cesspool of moral equivalence. The only religion I see around me is an unwavering atheistic trust in the welfare state. Even if I could make the bankers and their ponzi schemes disappear, nothing would change, we would still be a selfish and immoral people that would quickly self destruct.
So where are the African countries on that graph?
They're not there for the same reason there are no black people in The Flintstones.
Or in The Jetsons...the future is looking bright.
>So where are the African countries on that graph?
Or Canadians
Or Canadians
we don't really count, remember
America = North America, including Canada, Central America, and South America
We are the wealthiest non-critical thinkers, by far.
Easy solution, just put the question into the public school tests.....
Oh we can't, nevermind....
That's because we believe in facts, religion is just a coverup
This article is exactly why the US will plummet till it reaches its projected level of Cyprus, Turkey, and Lithuania....
Selection of inviting the dumbest to keep our lowest wages low, and rewarding the dumbest already here does have its outcomes, America. Relish in your decisions and the resultant outcomes.
Evolution is a Theory not a Fact. It is a good Theory that explains many observations. It does not explain all and is by any means "The Answer". It is largely misunderstood as is Natural Selection.
To base anything on a poorly percieved theory misrepresenting itself as fact is very poor science !
It's the best we got at the present time. And that's a fact!
Economics on the other hand ...now THERE'S some science. Hahaha
dupe
+100 Payne - however, I don't believe the theory misrepresents itself as fact - the theory isn't a sentient being. It is PEOPLE who either misrepresent a theory as fact or as simple conjecture.
Americans have been brainwashed and lied to repeatedly by the jew who owns/runs and controls the media.
Natural selection will take a massive leap forward when this market crashes.
Obese Americans will die out!
Is that evolution??????
"People as uninformed and as gullible as Americans have no future. Americans are a dead people that history is about to run over. - Paul Craig Roberts"
Look at Europe. Dead continent walking.
Uninformed and gullible Americans put a man on the Moon. It isn't belief in evolution that makes a country great. It is the supposedly informed elitists that are dragging this country down, with their we know better than you do, mind set. Oligarchy suppresses free enterprise and American inginuity, artificially choosing winners and losers. The elitists are building themselves up at the expense of everyone else.
History will run that over. America will be in decline if we continue down that path, as Europe is doing.
Americans relate to crayons. At least they didn't refer to evolution as a theory.
As a conservative I'm opposed to the progressive BS that comes from our modern US culture, especially hollywood and the msm. On the other hand, I can't respect the opinion of other cultures that follow the same exact liberal BS that I oppose here.
But Captain Conservative Raygun really had it figured out ?????
One constitutional conservative within a progressive establishment that has been in power and controls money printing since at least the creation of the Fed in 1913 is not an example of being in control.
Let's discuss, how you think our society got to this point , too much conservativism or too much liberalism?
Tell that to Dick Cheney Inc.
Oh please, If you think Cheney was actually a conservative, maybe your name should be Dick.
yes, i agree the line between fascist and conservative has been blurred to the point of being almost indistinguishable. He ran on a conservative ticket and tortured 1000's as a conservative so to offer him up now as something different becasue of his deeds is now quite disingenuous!!
too much corruption.
second that. corruption is a human feature, and it's usually a question of how much corruption. but to the original question: "too much conservativism or too much liberalism " (in the USA)
I'd say... both. and too little socialism, to boot. in the sense that because there is too little of it in the US, it creeps into the fray anyway
if you really want to point out the biggest problem in US politics, besides the role that money is allowed to play in it, it's the "white hat vs black hat" posturing, imho
a sound polity is supposed to be the place where conservatives, liberals and socialists find a common basis for their lives
so what I am missing (as a distant, alien watcher) in American politics is... moderation
It was drawn by a Chimpanzee....
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth and said it is good'
then God got drunk and created man to populate the Earth and when He
sobered up He said Holy Crap, what the f... did I do. Then He got drunk again
and put Lloyd B in charge of doing his work and when He sobered up again He
said..Holy Mother of Crap, I have to stop drinking....Amen
maybe god will try 5X the average brain size to body size ratio than 10X as current. but if god is keysian then he will try 20X.
http://www.ted.com/talks/suzana_herculano_houzel_what_is_so_special_abou...
You ever noticed how people who believe in Creationism look really unevolved?
- Bill Hicks
LOL I am ROTF dying!!! They excellent question opens up soooo many possibilities. Tears. thank you!
BTW They left out Canada. And thats leads to another poll I saw years back that most US Americans polled thought Canada was part of the US - which could explain its absence in the crayon drawing.
(Many could not find Canada on a map either - I guess because they thought it was part of the US?)
amrkns don't do maps, certainly not in the sense of World Maps.
there's yer tell - US, that means "us, we" amirite? me firsters.
I think a better scale would be "who still holds social Darwinism as most near and most dear."
Oh, yeah!
USA! USA!
America Jihad!
America Jihad!
In the middle of the bubble all by itself.
Americans Are 'Different' From The Rest Of The World ..and for that, most of the rest of the world are thankfulI believe Ancient Aliens brought us here to breed and harvest us as slaves, which is also not evolution, but also not too religious.
By the way, why does that chart look like something a kid did in first grade with crayons? That all they can get to do such studies these days?
The sad fact is: that most likely, you are probably more right than all the
rest of fanatics that know for sure it was something else.
George Bush did it. He doesn't know 'puters.
Come on man, the only reason we are here is that the planet needed plastic, lots of it too !!!
Haha. Since we're talking evolution. Why not chart belief vs birthrate? Who cares if Norway believes as they don't really live it?
I belive that in the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth. At some point, someone took a dump and democrats appeared
Well we know there is at least 9 democrats posting here on ZH
Christards.
That there is a very thought provoking post, brilliant.
It explains the phenomena to a T. Only christ tards argue against evolution from what I have seen.
Well I certainly can't argue that you have not evolved to the point of contributing a semi coherent post. I would also add that there are Christians that do think there is the possibilty and or believe in some degree of evolution, which leads to my conclusion you have not seen it all.
You got something up your butt about Christians? Looks like a pretty big beef to me. Or are you in labor evolving the race?
Do Muslimtards acknowledge evolution? Jewtards? I don't love or hate Christains but I do respect their right to make a choice about what they believe. Like Muslims, like Jews. Why single them out?
Bear in mind that Christians and Jews will also respect your right to your choice.
Muslims are required by their book not to respect your choice.
Because they're predominantly white europeans.
Do I win a prize?
Actually, molecular biologists, too, are not united in using evolution to explain what goes on inside cells.
they're mostly united. "Black Box" arguments aside.
Might want to have an eye exam
Our Constitution was written by Christians. Somewhow they were worldly-wise enough to put together a system of governance designed to curtail the ability of one person, branch of government or group of people from gaining power over all others. Its almost like they knew people would try to do that or something.
To me the stupid people are the ones who decided that was a bad idea and set out to trample all over it.
that group learned from the past.
and a really smart black man called them on it and was shot for it!
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2564.htm#idc-cover
white supremists can't read this and understand its troothyness
Nice interpretation of history.
About half of the founding fathers didn't believe in absolutist form of Christianity. Oh and they were mostly liberal lawyers from the east coast too.
And I do believe they were wise enough to establish NO religion in our constitution.
But, yes, keeping thinking Jesus himself told Tommy Jefferson what to write down.
"And I do believe they were wise enough to establish NO religion in our constitution."
You only missed by about a mile and a half.
"About half of the founding fathers didn't believe in absolutist form of Christianity"
Something we should all be well and truly thankful for.
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norway should worry about their beloved muslim population
I thought Norway was uninhabited.
Norway has a housing bubble that makes the one in the US look small. The atheists tend to also not have children which means the muslims population boom is needed to bring workers into Norway. Europe has huge demographic problems. They're watching themselves quickly evolve into an islamic union. But, what can you do, it's survival of the fittest.
I see the same in Sweden, though not so much Muslims as needed workers, but Muslims as a new huge welfare population. Either way, Sweden will be a Muslim nation, and when that happens, they will take all rights away from natives, or simply drive them out. Native Swedes refuse to believe Muslims would ever hurt them or take their rights away. They are liberal idiots.
In other words, there's hope for us yet!
Hope is for idiots
See Craig Roberts above--simply put--NO,No,No!! Milestones
They never did find the missing link.
It is a theory evolution is, not a fact. Why should people believe in the unproved?
Every once in awhile archeologists find stuff thousands of years BC built by intelligent humans.
We cannot really determine long term weather patterns, climate, how are brains work and so on.
Maybe we always existed, but our versiion of recorded history is not that old, doesn't mean the history isn't there.
In science a theory is a proven hypothesis. Evolution is proven so much, only fools still have doubts. Get some education my friend, you make an idiot out of yourself here with that display of ignorance.
It shows your ignorance, there are intelligent scientists who don't believe in evolution either.
How do you know they're intelligent?
The only thing proven about evolution so far is that it takes a completely brain dead idiot to accept it as fact.
You're not understanding him. He isn't saying that evolution doesn't happen. He's saying evolution doesn't explain us. Believe it or not, these are entirely seperate concepts.
Almost. A theory is a hypothesis that has not been disproven. We do not prove anything to be true beyond question in science. Evolution has not been disproven, despite over a century of trying. So, a very successful theory.
You are right of course. But hey, we are talking to people here who think evolution is "just a theory" and have no clue at all what a theory is. You have to explain things in a simple way first in that case.
Yes, you're right. I hope that, over time, people can discover some of the staggering results witnessed every day by scientists in laboratories around the world and be convinced by good theories that explain all these observations. The Genesis story of creation is not inconsistent with the Theories of Evolution and Natural Selection.
the thing you're missing is that a theory that explains some things based on evidence is much better than a belief based on nothing but what pre-scientific goat herders wrote down in some book 2500 years ago.
When religion enters the room, common sense flies out the window.
And that's a bad thing?
Shouldn't you be jointing in on the protest of some fucking cartoon?
Why is it that the people who believe the most strongly in Darwinsm are also the biggest proponents of the welfare state?
Why is it that Darwinianism is denied by the scientifically illiterate?
I think you answered your own question, my man.
DARWINISM is NOT the Theory of Evolution / Natural Selection. DARWINISM is quackery which picks and chooses precepts from the Theory of Evolution /Natural Selection to explain how fucking over your fellow man economically is OK because it's in the name of 'science'.
WTF is wrong with you people??? Do you NOT know the fucking difference between DARWINISM and the scientific Theory of Evolution / Natural Selection????? They are NOT the same thing. ONE is bullshit quackery and the other is actual science...you know like the method that helps invent things like fucking computers that you type into and post your retarded shit on the fucking internet which was also invented with the help of the same fucking method (science...).
I'm an American - I love this country. I think the constitution is an amazing accomplishment of human intellect. I think Jesus was amazing and I think he had a lot a awesome stuff to say about how men & women should treat each other. I also think science is pretty fucking amazing too. And if it wasn't for science we wouldn't be arguing with each other right now and using electrons to do it to boot.
I'm really sad when I read some of these posts by people who truly don't understand science at all. And I fear that it is, in part, this willful ignorance of its general population that will be America's undoing.
actually it makes perfect sense if you think about it
There are so many holes in the idea that "humans evolved from earlier species of animals" to wonder why the post?
How about the biological aspect of the cell? And then again the idea of being able to make moral decisions, which animals cannot. How about how emotions "evolved", explain how love, hate, anger etal derive from arbitrary chemical reactions and why?
More click bait from the new ZeroHedge owners.
sschu
So Dolphins saving humans from shark atacks is..ah....what exactly?
I do not know enough about Dolphin's saving humans to know the answer to that. But if the Dolphin did this for moral reasons, what was the objective moral standard the Dolphin used to make this decision and from where did it originate? How did an arbitrary arrangements of atoms develop and communicate this moral code so that the Dolphin did the "right thing"?
sschu
Lots of stories out there, if you're interested. If we ever find a way to communicate with them, we can ask.
"what was the objective moral standard the Dolphin used to make this decision?"
I can't answer that, but I'd guess that they are social thinking mammals and are able to recognize that in us.
social thinking mammals
What does this mean? Where did this moral thinking originate and how did it come about?
sschu
Social-working and talking together as a group, or a "Pod" in this case
Thinking- able to detect danger, as in a shark, and protect each other, as well as helping other species. As humans do if they see a dog in the road from a hit-n-run.
"Where did this moral thinking originate and how did it come about?"
It orginated in the Dolphines consciousness, just like ours, as our brains grew. I can't get anymore complex that that.
I think it's a good theory.
How does the naturalist/materialist explain consciousness? It seems not to have a physical aspect.
Sschu
You seem really confused. First you want some type physical/ scientific explanation of how moral decisions are made, then you want me to prove to you something that should be friggin obvious, there is no physical aspect to consciousness.
"Hey Barney, I'm going to the hospital today to get a conscious transplant."
I don't even know why I'm talking to you. WTF. And stop sitting on cucumbers, it's bad karma baby.