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Nisman Murdered? Suicide Story Crumbles After No Gunpowder Found On Argentine's Hands

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When news broke of the death, by gunshot wound to the head, of Alberto Nisman - the prosecutor who was due within hours to deliver testimony implicating the Argentine President in covering up the investigation into a bombing in 1994 - it seemed oddly quick for police to rule it suicide within hours (especially after his earlier concerns that "I could end up dead because of this.") Today's news from The Buenos Aires Herald that the "unexpected result" of forensic analysis of Nisman’s body confirmed that there were no traces of gunpowder on his hands suggests (despite experts still proclaiming it does not rule out suicide) has prompted many questions over just how he died. Even the US has offered help...

 

As The Buenos Aires Herald reports, No gunpowder traces found on Nisman’s hands, tests ordered on alleged weapon...

The forensic analysis on AMIA special prosecutor Alberto Nisman’s body confirmed that there were no traces of gunpowder on his hands. However, experts explained that it does not contradict suicide hypothesis.

 

Prosecutor Viviana Fein, who leads the investigation of Nisman’s death, said this was not an “unexpected result” and that it “does not rule out the possibility that Nisman had fired the gun himself.”

 

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"When the weapon is fire, since the quantity [of gunpowder] for an electronic sweep test is so small, the test could not give a positive result," Fein underlined.

 

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The investigator, with consent from judge Emma Palmaghini, subsequently ordered new studies on the .22 calibre pistol to be carried out. The gun will be fired by a different person whose hand will undergo the same test as Nisman's, to determine whether it leaves gunpowder residue.

 

"There are so many tests that can be ordered in this case, we must wait for blood studies found on the gun and on the scene to yield results," Fein added. She also gave some information on the Prosecutors' office employee who had lent the weapon to Nisman shortly before his death.

 

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"We have not taken any other weapon from doctor Nisman's home, nor from safes, drawers or any other places they could be appropriately stored. Right now no other weapon has been found or taken."

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US can help:

  • *U.S. EMBASSY SAID TO OFFER ARGENTINA ASSISTANCE IN NISMAN PROBE

But protests continue...

 

CNN adds...

Government officials called it a suicide, but theories of something more sinister arose immediately.

 

Protesters took to the streets Monday night near the presidential palace -- the Casa Rosada -- waving Argentine flags and holding signs proclaiming, "Yo soy Nisman," or "I am Nisman."

 

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For protesters in Buenos Aires' Plaza de Mayo, the prosecutor's death struck a deeper chord.

 

"The killing of Nisman will mobilize the Argentine people to put an end to the corruption, to end this state of disaster that we live in here in Argentina," one protester said.

 

One woman compared the country's politicians to the mafia, and another said that Argentine democracy was not a democracy anymore.

President Fernandez has responded...

"Suicide provokes, in all cases, first: disbelief, and then: questions. What was it that led a person to make the terrible decision to take his own life?" Fernandez wrote in a lengthy letter she posted on her Facebook page.

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Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:20 | 5685858 nope-1004
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JE SUIS NISMAN.

Obviously murdered.  That's how the corrupt banksters roll.  Fernandez response is sooooooo cover up-ish, trying to sway public opinion.  Laughable.

 

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:22 | 5685867 localsavage
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Suicided is the proper term...

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:24 | 5685881 malek
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That obvious mistake in the forensic analysis will quickly be rectified!

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:36 | 5685916 Supernova Born
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So he washed his hands with "Lava" pumice soap after he shot himself.

No "conspiracy theory" required.

 

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:37 | 5685935 B2u
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Maybe he had gloves on and took them off and threw them away after he killed himself.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:41 | 5685956 Latina Lover
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Nisman claimed that the Iranians were involved in the 1994 bombing of a Buenos Aires Synagogue.  Meanwhile, it is already demonstrated that Israel and the US were behind it, to provoke an anti government reaction.  There is more to this story than the Arg. President is automatically guilty....

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:08 | 5686036 nuubee
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Perhaps, but what motives would the Arg President (or anyone in Argentina for that matter) have for defending TPTB in the U.S./Israel?

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:18 | 5686079 Stackers
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I'm sure Hillary Clinton would be more than happy to offer her insights on how to cover up murder/suicides.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:22 | 5686087 Save_America1st
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This just in!  Breaking News!!!

 

JFK death now ruled a suicide by the government.

Case closed.

Wed, 01/21/2015 - 00:54 | 5687066 Big Slick
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If Barak Obama had a prosecutor, he would look like Alberto Nisman

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 21:14 | 5686296 Lost Word
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Ask maybe Hillary's good friend Vince Foster ...

Oh wait ...

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 23:28 | 5686865 Boxed Merlot
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Meanwhile, Christina Kirchner's declared wealth has grown more than tenfold since she and her late husband began leading Argentina...

 

I'm sure Hillary Clinton would be more than happy to offer her insights on how to...   add cyphrage to a bank account.

 

Pork Bellies!!

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:54 | 5686199 Againstthelie
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Obviously something very strange has been going on in Kirchner's surroundings:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102299131

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 23:14 | 5686673 zeroderivatives
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As corruption allegations were swirling around Argentine President Christina Kirchner, she accused the nation's leading newspapers of lying and defaming her "in the best style of fascism."

Meanwhile, Christina Kirchner's declared wealth has grown more than tenfold since she and her late husband began leading Argentina.

Her son, Máximo, a college dropout who wields plenty of power as the founder and leader of La Cámpora, a political youth organisation whose acolytes dot the boards of state-owned and private companies.

 

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/29/argentina-vice-president-am...

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/12/17/stung-by-corruption-allegations-...

http://www.economist.com/news/americas/21600680-argentinas-president-wea...

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 23:21 | 5686813 seminal1
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Nisman had been very outspoken in the last few weeks about the evidence he had against the president, probably in an attempt to gain public recognition and therefore be safer in case of an “accident”.

As Cristina Kirchner said herself not long ago."One should only fear God... and me"

http://ferfal.blogspot.com/

Wed, 01/21/2015 - 03:23 | 5687238 Phil Free
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Gotta watch out for those dasterdly werewolves..

 

Silver, bitchez!!  :D

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 21:16 | 5686304 Lost Word
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Follow the Money ...

Who Owns the Argentine Central Bank ???

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 21:42 | 5686401 flapdoodle
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Je Sui Nisman

That's the giveaway that this likely a US/Mossad/GCHQ operation a la Maidan square.

My bet is that Nisman had nothing substantial but by killing him they might be able to stir up an orange revolution.

Remember Putin just offered the Argies Su-30s.

Putin offering to help Argentina retake the Falklands (Malvinas) would be big trouble for NATO, the UK and Cameron in particular.

UK is far weaker than it was the first time around...

 

 

 

 

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:16 | 5686045 Save_America1st
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shocked!!!  Shocked, I say!!!  This is unpossible!!!  This is as unpossible as anyone ever believing that somebody could NOT shoot themselves in the head and body 8 times with a nail gun in order to desperately commit suicide.  Can't we all just understand that some people are desperate to leave this life in a blaze of nails and not always jump to conclusions that it's always murder?  And some people are very sneaky and selfish so that they can shoot themselves in the head with a gun point blank and not get any gunpowder residue on themselves what-so-ever, and not leave a note behind, just because they're mean and want us to blame it on somebody else other than themselves.  Sheesh!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-07/4th-financial-services-executive-found-dead-self-inflicted-nail-gun-wounds

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:12 | 5686049 Frank N. Beans
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"Israel and the US were behind it"

I see this on every fucking article on ZH.  ipso facto, everyone else has clean hands. 

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 21:00 | 5686218 Frank N. Beans
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so your point is, she has good relations with Jews.  According to Wikipedia:

"Since there is suspected Iranian involvement in the 1994 AMIA bombing, Kirchner's relations with the Argentine Jewish community deteriorated.[125] Fernández gave her United Nations General Assembly speech where she again criticized ... Iran for the 1994 AMIA bombing while giving her support for an Israeli-Palestinian dialogue and an eventual Palestinian state."

Wed, 01/21/2015 - 03:27 | 5687239 Againstthelie
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"Deteriorating relations" but she is adopting a Jew?

A woman like Kirchner adopting a son, because of a legend! What a Chutzpah story for the stupid Goyim.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:33 | 5685918 nuubee
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Long Crime Lab Tools!

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 21:16 | 5686309 logicalman
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couldn't help noticing this..

Even the US has offered help...

.............. help make sure the results of the investigation fit the required narrative.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:26 | 5685882 nope-1004
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Because everyone who is hours away from exposing the truth, and talk about doing so for weeks beforehand, commit suicide.  THIS IS A colossal joke thinking that the people are that dumb to believe the suicide nonsense.

 

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:37 | 5685892 weburke
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Not a joke to some very high up european elites ! He was in some very powerful organizations, the death squads for revenge surely are getting their orders. brics dev bank may have been target of efforts. but also this...“The president and her foreign minister took the criminal decision to fabricate Iran’s innocence to sate Argentina’s commercial, political and geopolitical interests,” the newspaper quoted Nisman as alleging.

Last May, an Argentine court declared unconstitutional an agreement between the Argentinian government and Iran to jointly probe the 1994 bombing of the Buenos Aires Jewish center. The agreement had been approved in 2013 by Argentina’s congress, at the request of the executive branch. Nisman consistently argued that the agreement constituted “undue interference of the executive branch in the exclusive sphere of the judiciary.”

Wed, 01/21/2015 - 02:20 | 5687189 weburke
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the bengazi torturers thought they were going to an after murder congradulation session some days later, but they were met by a revenge squad. The murdered diplomat, whatever you know about him, and why he actually was there, had way high up freinds way beyond obama world. They were not pleased. I doubt they were shot. I do notice, like some mention, that always you hear "he was killed" as they never take prisoners, and they dont know how to wound someone it would seem, but I do not believe them.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:33 | 5685917 Buckaroo Banzai
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"THIS IS A colossal joke thinking that the people are that dumb to believe the suicide nonsense."

I dunno, ever heard of "Arkancide"? Almost as bad as this (arguably worse since it happened over and over again), but ask 1000 Americans what the word means, and you'll get a blank look from 999 of them.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:55 | 5686204 TruthHunter
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+999

Arkancide needs to haunt Hillary until she meets her own arkancide

 

I was aware of the rumors, but hadn't seen the website

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 21:19 | 5686317 Lost Word
Wed, 01/21/2015 - 00:31 | 5687022 Seize Mars
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Well done. That's one hell of a body count!

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 21:23 | 5686335 phaedrus1952
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A key enabler in these situations is the Medical Examiner. I don't recall right this moment the specifics in Arkansas back then , but IIRC, the ME was a non-native born who was beholden to the power structure, which enabled, amongst other tragedies, the stupendous number of teenagers who were murdered. The WSJ ran a contemporaneous story about it.

Wed, 01/21/2015 - 03:12 | 5687229 long-shorty
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Ask Buckaroo Banzai what "Snopes" means, and do I get a blank look or just a lecture about the leftist propaganda machine?

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:33 | 5685922 BullyBearish
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It's more than just an immediate palliative for Cristina...it's a MESSAGE to those that threaten the powers that be that things are not the same anymore, things are much more serious with increasingly dire consequences

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:37 | 5685934 nuubee
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So, Tyler needs a well-supplied compound then?

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:39 | 5685948 Omen IV
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American people believe almost universally that Building #7 fell down

the morons need to be cleared out to get the population to 3.5 Billion worldwide - most are useless

Wed, 01/21/2015 - 02:12 | 5687185 weburke
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3.5? boy are you optomistic. there are blabbermouth elites on the web, and you can look as I did, and I found 2 that said 1 or 2 billion, and ALL the rest said, "under 500 million". some said 250 million, and the dang bible says 200 million. ugh. that is why I prep. 

Wed, 01/21/2015 - 03:39 | 5687249 Major Malfunction
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http://www.guidestones.us/secret-societies/

 

“Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.”

 

Watch out.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 22:07 | 5686498 NaN
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Fernandez is so sure it was a suicide before all the facts are in...

Wed, 01/21/2015 - 07:49 | 5687380 effendi
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I wouldn't rule out suicide completely.

But I would want to know what (or who) drove him to kill himself.

Field Marshal Rommel commited suicide as he knew he was a dead man walking whatever he did. By offing himself the deal was his family would avoid a grisly fate. 

So did this guy have family that could be used as a bargaining chip to force him to agree to kill himself?

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:38 | 5685936 LasVegasDave
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Lets see you cocksucking, crazy, jew hating sons of bitches stand on your head to explain this one.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:06 | 5686029 noben
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Qué? De qué hablas usted, Gringo loco?

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:10 | 5686048 The_Prisoner
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Sure, Iran did it. Like they did:

Kind David Hotel, USS Liberty, Pan Am 103, MH17

Years of inbreeding seems to have turned the chosen's brain into mush. Have you been tests for syphilis? It has been shown to impair cognitive function.

Try penicilin, and recommend your rabbi take a course too, before bitting the next newborn's dick.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:11 | 5686052 YHC-FTSE
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Self explanatory I would have thought? As strange as it may seem, on the surface it does look as though this is murder made to look like a suicide to cover up the Argentine president's involvement in a cover up of Iran's involvement in a bombing that occurred more than 20 years ago (Phew!). Makes a refreshing change from Zionists murdering everyone and covering it up, but that's what it looks like on the surface. Must be nice for you and other fucked up Israel supporting nutjobs to find a possible example of what you people do to others on an almost daily basis so you can rant about being a victim of injustice.

The fact that CNN is running this story and the US embassy is offering help (How, exactly?) speak volumes about how important it must be for the zionists to play the victims in this 20+ yr old story, you know to run concurrently with the farce in Paris. After all, the EU and the rest of the world won't drop their support of Palestinian independence without a shedload of pressure to change their minds.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:14 | 5686062 Bunghole
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Off your meds again, Dave?

Man, you are a volatile POS.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:42 | 5686156 WillyGroper
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@LVD,

I think a lot of folks really mean Zionist, not Jew.

Bigotry or stupidity...your guess is as good as mine.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:59 | 5686011 noben
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"Who benefits from his death?" is the question asked by amateurs and sheep.

"Who benefits even more by having his death blamed on Kirschner?" is the better question, that a Pro might ask, and whose answer is probably juicier and more enlightening.

Hint: If the result of this is CHAOS, rather than a solved crime, then who benefits the most from it?

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:22 | 5685872 SilverIsKing
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If it wasn't by nail gun, I will need more time to assess before rendering my opinion.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:22 | 5685874 SilverIsKing
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OK, I've got it.  Suicide it is...not.

 

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:25 | 5685889 Pig Circus
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We Suicided some Folks.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:30 | 5685909 jez
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Well, I dunno. I know nothing about guns, but can it be true that in 2015, it is still impossible to manufacture a gun that doesn't leak gunpowder on your hand whenever it is fired?

But here's my theory. Mr Nisman put on a glove on his trigger hand, shot himself in the head (maybe several times), put the gun down, removed the glove, ate it, picked up the gun again and then died.

Open and shut case.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:33 | 5685921 OldPhart
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Whatever happened to the good, old-fashioned, nail-gun?

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:42 | 5685926 nuubee
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It would be silly to say that it is impossible to manufacture a gun that doesn't leak gunpowder onto your hand.

However, I can see absolutely no commercial benefit for offering such a weapon. The point of a gun is to put a mass of lead going forward from your body in a straight line at near or exceeding the speed of sound at sea level. If you're a criminal looking to murder someone, and you want to keep the powders off your body, wear some latex, it's a whole lot cheaper than buying a specialized gun.

If you need a gun to kill yourself, and your point is to make sure everyone questions the suicide, yes, then maybe you need a gun that leaves no residue. But I would imagine that market is about as small as the market for farm tractors on Mars.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:58 | 5686222 XitSam
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Yes.  An airgun.  A model was used by the Austrian Army in 1780. And Lewis and Clark.

Now that I think about it, why aren't more professional hits done with airguns? Not that I know anything about professional hits aside from the movies. And ZH.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 21:21 | 5686324 logicalman
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Girandoni.

French resistance used a modified version - not much noise and no smoke.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:31 | 5685915 OldPhart
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"One woman compared the country's politicians to the mafia, and another said that Argentine democracy was not a democracy anymore."

 

Welcome to America.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:33 | 5686130 Stoploss
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The act of responding shows the necessity for cover up.

Otherwise, no response was required.

Stupid is, as stupid does...

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 21:34 | 5686373 phaedrus1952
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Stop loss, excellent observation. The specific words pale when actions (protesting too much, complete silence, patsies immediately identified/killed, etc., etc.) shout the significance - overt and otherwise - in these tragedies.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 22:59 | 5686730 Counterpunch
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was he also investigating the Hebdo attacks?

Wed, 01/21/2015 - 07:06 | 5687346 Shropshire Lad
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But Fernandez is a prime target of the corrupt banksters and the Mossad, who actually bombed their own people in Buenos Aires.  So we need to ask who gains from the death of this prosecutor?  The actual cover-up was of the Mossad involvement -- not of any Iranian involvement in the 1994 bombings.  And now Argentina is developing strong relations with both Iran and Russia and the US has not given its permission.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:23 | 5685871 Dead Canary
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I AM SPARTACUS!

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:43 | 5685955 WOAR
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No, I AM ZORRO!

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:22 | 5685873 pFXTim
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shocking.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:26 | 5685884 Tinky
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Well, at least one conspiracy theory has been vindicated.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:29 | 5685893 SMG
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Heck, the only "theories" left are bigfoot and the loch ness monster.   Most everything else has been proven as actual conspiracies.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:34 | 5685924 MsCreant
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No bankers involved in those two, so they did not happen.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:28 | 5685898 NoWayJose
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It is almost unpossible to hold a .22 handgun and place a single shot into your skull in such a manner as to produce a 'kill'.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:32 | 5685914 wendigo
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Actually very possible. You can kill almost any animal with a .22. That being said, if I were to eat a bullet it would be from my S & W .500. Just to be on the safe side. 

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:01 | 5686015 jimmytorpedo
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If you are going to kill yourself, it is a lot nicer for the people who find you if you use a .22

Using your .500 would mean a lot of redecorating after the fact.

Wed, 01/21/2015 - 08:41 | 5687443 Counterpunch
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for fuck's sake.

 

Go out to the Yukon with just a .22 and see how you do against a brown bear.

 

 

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:07 | 5686031 serotonindumptruck
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.22 caliber has long been recognized as an assassin's round. Extremely effective at producing a "kill" when combined with good cranial shot placement.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 21:25 | 5686346 Lost Word
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Eye shot.

Wed, 01/21/2015 - 08:45 | 5687452 lakecity55
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Moe Greene.

Wed, 01/21/2015 - 00:44 | 5687039 snr-moment
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I can assure you, people shot in the head with a .44 never testify.

Wed, 01/21/2015 - 08:40 | 5687442 Counterpunch
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Maybe up close [capture or kill being okay] but not otherwise.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 23:58 | 5686949 Greenskeeper_Carl
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As crazy as it sounds, a .22 is a very effective round for that sort of thing. If you try to kill yourself with a large caliber round, you have a chance of the bullet going clean through without hitting anything serious enough to kill you, and you will lie there on the floor bleeding in agony , and probably fucked up enough to be retarded for the rest of your life, and hideously deformed as well. However, the .22 doesn't have enough energy to go all the way through the other side of your skull, so I typically enters, hits the other side, the. Pings around and fragments into several pieces, which shred your brain.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:29 | 5685901 wendigo
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I think it's safe to say that as the level of importance goes up, the likelihood it was a sucide goes down. Importance is inversely related to suicidal tendencies. 

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 21:03 | 5686251 XitSam
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Excellent observation!

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:31 | 5685905 Yen Cross
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Early X-Mas presant

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:01 | 5685910 JustObserving
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Even the US has offered help

 

Gary Webb, who revealed the CIA sales of crack cocaine in California to fund the contras, committed "suicide" in a similar manner by shooting himself twice in the head with a .38 caliber pistol.  It was ruled a suicide in the US.  Apparently, the Argentines did not offer assistance or were turned down.

Ricky Ross, one of Gary Webb's primary sources had spoken to Gary in the days before his death. Gary told Ricky that he had seen men scaling down the pipes outside his home and that they were obviously not burglars but 'government people'. Gary also told Ricky that he had been receiving death threats and was being regularly followed. It was also mentioned that Gary was working on a new story concerning the CIA and drug trafficking. 

http://www.rense.com/general60/move.htm

 

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:02 | 5686017 noben
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Isn't his "suicide-now-murder" enough Help already?

Let Chaos reign! The TRUE objective.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:46 | 5686173 WillyGroper
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Oh the propaganda re: kill the messenger is thick.

What has confounded me is Michael Ruppert confirming it a suicide.

IMO, not with 2 shots.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 21:14 | 5686295 GMadScientist
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Maybe Ollie will tell us about it on Fox's "War Stories" someday.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:30 | 5685911 MsCreant
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Maybe they can show us how to rumble and take down our own lying bastards. 

TooBigToJail = Cry for us Argentina 

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 21:06 | 5686265 WillyGroper
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I know a hand surgeon from AR that had to steal body parts from graves to study. I've had some very interesting conversations re: politics with him. If you watch Chalky with his rolled up sleeve town hall meetings, this was the same MO with Peron. I haven't witnessed Puty doing such. Upon Evita's death folks were lined up for miles to pay homage. A friend of his (black) asked him to go. He said hell no, he wasn't going to wait for such a spectacle. His friend happened to be the ambassador's son who told the guards that he was his brother and they went to the front of the que. He went on to equate the corruption amongst all the body politick.

On even a more bizarre note, after their first USSA destabilization, folks were starving and butchering ranchers cattle in the fields. A law was passed that as long as they left the hide on the fence the theft was ignored.

We live in strange times. 

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:34 | 5685913 souljaboy
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Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:32 | 5685919 kowalli
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Gun was without gunpowder - problem solved, next please.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:33 | 5685920 SillySalesmanQu...
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Accidental gun cleaning mishap, nothing to see here... move along.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:35 | 5685923 Yen Cross
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  Suicide by cotton candy?

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 19:49 | 5685969 kowalli
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suicide by nose hair clipper 

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:02 | 5686021 The_Prisoner
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Regime change, sponsored by the usual suspects.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:12 | 5686050 CaptainMoonlight
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Argentinians: time to tear it the fk up. Go after the head of the serpent.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:11 | 5686051 smacker
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I assume the US Embassy in Buenos Aires has offered to help so they can pin the blame on Cristina who has caused them so much aggro over her debt problems. And she probably did order the guy's assassination.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:19 | 5686063 Counterpunch
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Nisman, as a Zionist Jew, represented a group comprising less than 1% of Argentina - but, of course, he ended up in this investigation of the horrific bombing and murder of the AMIA

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMIA_bombing

 

This was blamed on Iran and Hezbollah - although the evidence is... weak...and it's hard to figure out what either party stood to gain by murdering these innocent civilians on the other side of the world.

 

It was very likely yet another Mossad false flag and while, yes, they get accused of being responsible for everything- they have also engaged in a great number of despicable murders, bombings, and other false flags. 

 

http://smoloko.com/?p=4344

 

Iran, subsequently, called for a new investigation, and eventually Argentina's government was convinced to re-examine the evidence.

 

Nisman, Israel, and Jewish groups around the world wailed, and gnashed their teeth and shouted "anti-Semite" until they were blue in the face....   at the re-opening of a hastily done investigation by a man with an especial affinity for Israel.

 

What happened here - who knows - there's more than one candidate for who would want to do some wetwork, but you can bet that horrific bombing and pinning the blame on Iran had something to do with it.

 

Maybe I'm just a paranoid joo-hater though, right?  Of course, back in 2001 - I remember, very very very well... this conclusion being generated:

 

On Sept 10, 2001 Army School Says Israel Has capability to target US forces and make it look like a Palestinian/Arab act


http://12160.info/group/demand911truthnow/forum/topics/on-sept-10-2001-a...


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2001/sep/10/20010910-025319-6906r/

 

Weird timing, eh?

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:54 | 5686203 Bangalore Torpedo
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Ah, there we go, I figured that a member of the ZH Jewphobic neo-nazi brigade would eventually make the connection where none exists.  ZHers...never fail to disappoint with their small-minded thinking!

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 21:24 | 5686339 Quantum Nucleonics
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Of course.  Anything with less than 3 degrees of separation from Jews or Israel brings out the Sturmabteilung in force.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 22:57 | 5686703 Counterpunch
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Zionists are light years coser to national socialism than I am.  If you weren't such a Judeo-Supremacist Ziopath, you might appreciate that.


Glad to see I struck a nerve though, you fucking hasbara hack.

 

Of course, when you mindlessly support a state born in terrorism and ethnic cleansing and the absurd, racist myth of being "Chosen" - you are a Nazi.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 22:57 | 5686694 Counterpunch
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Isn't it weird that if anyone ever suggests that Hezbollah, or say the FSB does something - it is not immediately pounced on as some form of ethnic hate - but if you suggest that Israel may have done something like {The Lavon Affair, King David Hotel Bombing, USS Liberty, etc.} all of a sudden it's "nazi" and "jewphobic."

 

Meaning - you can't criticize Israel because its the nation state of the Jews?

 

GO FUCK YOURSELF, AND GET SOME NEW MATERIAL.

 

 

WHY ZIONISM-NAZISM COMPARISONS ARE LEGITIMATE ...
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 21:17 | 5686311 Stumpy4516
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He had already served his purpose and now could only be a liability.  He had put forth a Israel supporting story as a prosecutor.

Now he was going to be required to give details of his story and how he came to those conclusions.  His responses would be disected in detail in the following days and if it crumbled several things would happen.  First, it would seriously draw into question the Iran/Hezbollah conclusions of the original report and his involvement.  Second, it would then cause people to see the original report as a contrived bit of BS with Israel being the beneficiary, which then brings one to ask if Israel was responsible.

By killing him the typical dummy will assume it was because his story was true and someone was trying to stop the truth.  Which is to Israel's benefit.  The use of a 22 helps to keep the noise down so the agent can escape.

I hope others who have been or might choose to get involved with Massod take note of how this can result in their being killed if Massod finds it is beneficial.

 

Wed, 01/21/2015 - 07:17 | 5687351 Shropshire Lad
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Whether we like it or not, these events are never what they seem to be and it beholds us to dig deeper for the truth.  Thank you, Counterpunch for your insightful perspective.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:13 | 5686067 F0ster
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Christina "Hey Vlad, i got this little problem"

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:19 | 5686078 nosoeawe
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So a lying douchebag lawyer gets clipped .... in argentina, led by a heathen, cloven hooved bitch that makes barbara the bolshivek look like cinderella ... big fucking deal.

How the two-faced mongrel checked out is ok by me - baked, broiled, boiled, hung, drawn and quartered.

 

 

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:24 | 5686100 Ness.
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'He had to be suicided Sarge... there was only one passport at the scene.'

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:26 | 5686106 directaction
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Oy vei! I wonder why this one death is making headlines all over the world? Hmmmm ... 

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:31 | 5686125 drbill
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It's so obvious. He was wearing gloves, shot himself in the head, then took off the gloves and threw them away.....

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 21:03 | 5686255 Aussiekiwi
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Bugger , drbill, you beat me too it.lol

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:42 | 5686162 e_goldstein
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Next up, Buenos Aires coroner found suicided, film at 11.

 

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:50 | 5686194 AustrianJim
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No doubt also, the screenwriter who was found without his hands, that was a suicide.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:55 | 5686205 ekm1
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Khamenei

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 20:57 | 5686211 kchrisc
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It was the butler with a nail-gun in the bathroom.

The banksters need to repay us.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 21:11 | 5686237 kchrisc
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"*U.S. EMBASSY SAID TO OFFER ARGENTINA ASSISTANCE IN NISMAN PROBE"

Yup, good at finding, and killing, or railroading if need be, patsies.

The banksters need to repay us.

 

Do the Argentinians use the middle-name "Lee?"

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 21:04 | 5686253 JuliaS
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Reminds me of Sopranos Mad TV sketch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC6rNiRaAOY

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 21:07 | 5686274 Bangalore Torpedo
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Hey nimrods...it was Mossad...nope, I mean the CIA, oops, it was the FBI...shucks, I meant it was NOT-Putin.  Wait, I got it!  It was the ZWO (JWO) banksters!  Of course I H8 banksters, but I despise equally regardless of ethnicity.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 21:14 | 5686303 Rock On Roger
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I didn't know zion was ethnic group.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 22:18 | 5686540 flapdoodle
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Qui Bono?

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 21:10 | 5686289 GMadScientist
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Fucking socialists can't even stage a suicide correctly.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 21:32 | 5686372 DrNybble
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Neither can the US.  Remember Vince Foster?  But the US has a more compliant media.

Wed, 01/21/2015 - 08:41 | 5687445 lakecity55
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Yes...gun found in right hand, Vince was a leftie.
No blood at crime scene where his head blew out a gasket.
No spent round ever found.
All of the paperwork in his office disappears the same night...

Wed, 01/21/2015 - 08:49 | 5687454 Counterpunch
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veritable trail of bodies around the Klingons.

 

Granting that some may not be foul play - there are so many  [as with 9/11 and kennedy witnesses] questionable deaths, you sorta have to be an imbecile to not grant the likelihood of repeated conspiracies to murder.

 

Nothing new - power corrupts.

 

But the Clintons are particularly despicable and Clinton's "kosher kitchen" was the beginning of the Zionist/neocon infestation of the Deep State which was necessary, if not sufficient, for the Iraq War.

 

Fucking redneck Quisling.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 21:20 | 5686319 Quantum Nucleonics
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Additional details coming in... it was two rounds to the back of the head at point blank range.  The investigators are still considering it a suicide.

On the other hand.... let's say it was a suicide.  They why?  Perhaps he didn't actually have the dirt on Mrs. K that he claimed.  That he'd made up the allegations to stir the pot and get himself his 15 minutes.  Maybe the thought of getting in front of the cameras and admiting that it was all bs was just to much for him?

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 21:37 | 5686378 Jack D. Ripper
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“In our last conversation, Nisman told me that his evidence would either force [Argentinian leaders] to flee or send them to jail. He told me, ‘I’m going to put them in jail’,” said Perednik. Sunday, he noted, was their last chance to stop him.

The Argentinian government formed a joint commission with Iran (the prime suspect) to investigate the bombings! That would be like the US government forming a joint commission with Al Queda to investigate the 911 attacks. Or like the US government forming a joint commission with Japan to investigate the Pearl Harbor attack. No, the whole affair stinks to high heaven. No way this was a suicide.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 22:09 | 5686507 PhilofOz
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Even more befitting, that would be like the US government forming a commission full of Rothschild Zionists to investigate the 911 attacks. Oh shit!!...

Wed, 01/21/2015 - 07:24 | 5687360 Shropshire Lad
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The US did form a commission full of Zionists to investigate the 9/11 attach by the Mossad.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 21:46 | 5686413 Who was that ma...
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The official government story is that Nisman was wearing gloves when he fired the gun and then immediately removed them after shooting himself in the head thus leaving no powder residue on his hands.  Case closed!

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 21:49 | 5686426 SmittyinLA
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US has offered to help who?  The perps?

The Venezuela regime? 

As if financing their oil diploimacy wasn't enough? (ya we did that, and now we* own the bad debt) *NAFTA treaty obligations

Obviously the US didn't offer any publishing help to the jornalist, our govty was porobably working with the Venezuela regime (lots more to loot down there and its easier than Afghanistan). 

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 22:19 | 5686548 NaN
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Let's see... The US could lend an air of authority while gaining big, secret concessions.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 22:02 | 5686475 VWAndy
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So what info did he die for? For real. Lets see the proof.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 22:39 | 5686634 PGR88
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Sounds like an Arkancide

 

BTW, where's Hillary been recently?

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 23:07 | 5686755 Counterpunch
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False Flag Attacks in Argentina: 1992 and 1994

 

Israel’s False Flagsover Argentina

 

http://servv89pn0aj.sn.sourcedns.com/~gbpprorg/judicial-inc/AMIA_Argenti...

 

http://rehmat1.com/2009/07/23/amia-was-mossad-false-flag-operation/

 

Remember kids - if you suggest that Arabs, Persians or Muslims did something - without evidence - it is totally okay, not hate, and  no one will call you a 'Nazi.'   But if you suggest Israel would ever do something wrong to try to frame others  [like the Lavon Affair, King David Hotel bombing, and somewhat more controversially the USS Liberty Attack, inter alia] you're automatically a Nazi because Israel can never, ever do anything wrong, ever.

 

 

 

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 23:25 | 5686837 seminal1
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Mr. Nisman had been very outspoken in the last few weeks about the evidence he had against the president, probably in an attempt to gain public recognition and therefore be safer in case of an “accident”.

Well, it did him no good. They still killed him before presenting the evidence.

As Cristina Kirchner said herself not long ago."One should only fear God... and me"

 

http://ferfal.blogspot.com/

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 23:53 | 5686940 Counterpunch
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entirely possible.

 

I'm sure Mr. Nisman always considered himself an Argentinian - first and foremost.

Wed, 01/21/2015 - 01:20 | 5687115 narlah
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Yet if he was smart about it - he should have it hidden in a few places , ready and ticking in case of his own death ...

Not that it matters tho , in a modern world one like Snowden or Assange can wave documents about anything and still be ignored by the mass and outcried by the media. In the best possible scenario - a false flag is prepared quickly to divert the attention and the cycle begins again.

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 23:39 | 5686895 MaxThrust
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"everyone who is hours away from exposing the truth, and talk about doing so for weeks beforehand, commit suicide"

Aaron Shwartz comes to mind but then he was just a thorn in their side.

 

On the subject of Arkancide. Hillary Clinton is the Anti-Christ. If she wins the next presidency she will not be content with being the first wonen president. Oh no. She will hear voices, real or imagined, that she does not have the metal be be a real president becasue she cant handle a war. An that my fellow Americans is what will actually eventuate.

A Vote for Hillary is a vote for the MIC amd another war.

Current serving US Army and Marine front line personel, get ready to be sacrifiiced on the altar of Profit.

 

Max

Wed, 01/21/2015 - 00:34 | 5687029 rsnoble
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http://www.naturalnews.com/048345_Grey_State_martial_law_murder-suicide....

"The forensic analysis on AMIA special prosecutor Alberto Nisman’s body confirmed that there were no traces of gunpowder on his hands. However, experts explained that it does not contradict suicide hypothesis"

He washed his hands AFTER he blew his head off.

What a sloppy and most likely drugged up hitman to forget such a detail. Then again maybe they did on purpose because they get off dancing on the edge and know we can't prove otherwise.

Wed, 01/21/2015 - 00:37 | 5687031 snr-moment
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doesn't matter now.  Even they don't mess with a menstruating woman.

Wed, 01/21/2015 - 08:37 | 5687439 lakecity55
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Wait, I thought Hitlery, Huma, and Christina were like a triangle...

Wed, 01/21/2015 - 01:27 | 5687126 Shitgum Suicide
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Perhaps it was suicide by Shitgum?

Wed, 01/21/2015 - 01:56 | 5687168 gallistic
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Funny, the Tylers should have posted the Argentine President's open letter about this in full.

It is quite an interesting read.

Nisman was a (ten times over proven) agent for ???

 

Take a wild guess...

Wed, 01/21/2015 - 02:55 | 5687216 Joe A
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He seemed like a tidy and clean person so he must have washed his hands after he killed himself.

Wed, 01/21/2015 - 05:44 | 5687304 TheSheepWolf
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Saying such things out loud in AR = suicide. So yeah, this was a suicide. Case closed.

Wed, 01/21/2015 - 06:20 | 5687318 Baby Eating Dingo22
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Fixed one typo

The other being this had to have been more than one woman, but I don't know exactly how many to enable me to fix the second

One woman compared the country's politicians to the mafia, and another said that Argentina American democracy was not a democracy anymore.

Wed, 01/21/2015 - 06:35 | 5687327 StopBeingParanoid
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I would bet on the Iranian secret services, although they're usually quite professional, it seems odd that they forgot such an obvious detail

Wed, 01/21/2015 - 08:49 | 5687457 Zero_Head
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I bet 'Busch oar Dick Chainy' did it since it happened on Obama's watch.

Wed, 01/21/2015 - 19:45 | 5690251 MOB666
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No no no, you got it all wrong Argentina it was Isis!!

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