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This Is How The US Government Convinces A Newspaper To Kill A Story
Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,
Under President George W. Bush, the White House urged reporters to withhold accounts about many of the most contentious aspects in the war on terrorism: the existence of a secret prison in Thailand, the Central Intelligence Agency’s interrogation and detention program, warrantless wiretapping and government monitoring of financial transactions.
The Obama administration has persuaded reporters to delay publishing the existence of a drone base in Saudi Arabia, the name of a country in which a drone strike against an American citizen was being considered, the fact that a diplomat arrested in Pakistan was a C.I.A. officer and that an American businessman was working for the agency when he disappeared in Iran.
- From the New York Times article: Condoleezza Rice Testifies on Urging The Times to Not Run Article
The timidness with which mainstream media in the U.S. approaches news has been well documented. In fact, the inability of traditional media to do a reasonable job of holding powerful interests accountable has been one of the primary drivers behind the ascendency of alternative news. Despite this reality, one thing we know less about is specifically how the power structure goes about suppressing news it doesn’t want reaching the plebs. Until now.
Ironically, the New York Times reported on its own prior inability to report the news:
WASHINGTON — White House officials favor two primary tactics when they want to kill a news article, Condoleezza Rice, the former national security adviser, testified Thursday: They can essentially confirm the report by arguing that it is too important to national security to be published, or they can say that the reporter has it wrong.
Sitting across from a reporter and editor from The New York Times in early 2003, Ms. Rice said, she tried both.
Yes indeed. When it comes to censoring the news, the U.S. government will do “whatever it takes.”
Testifying in the leak trial of Jeffrey Sterling, a former C.I.A. officer, Ms. Rice described how the White House successfully persuaded Times editors not to publish an article about a secret operation to disrupt Iran’s nuclear program. James Risen, a Times reporter, ultimately revealed the program in his 2006 book, “State of War,” and said that the C.I.A. had botched the operation. Prosecutors used Ms. Rice’s testimony to bolster their case that the leak to Mr. Risen had harmed national security.
Ms. Rice’s account also threw a light on how the government pressures journalists to avoid publishing details about United States security affairs. It is a common practice that is seldom discussed.
Under President George W. Bush, the White House urged reporters to withhold accounts about many of the most contentious aspects in the war on terrorism: the existence of a secret prison in Thailand, the Central Intelligence Agency’s interrogation and detention program, warrantless wiretapping and government monitoring of financial transactions.
The Obama administration has persuaded reporters to delay publishing the existence of a drone base in Saudi Arabia, the name of a country in which a drone strike against an American citizen was being considered, the fact that a diplomat arrested in Pakistan was a C.I.A. officer and that an American businessman was working for the agency when he disappeared in Iran.
Makes you wonder, who isn’t working for the C.I.A. at this point?
According to notes of the White House meeting, George J. Tenet, the C.I.A. director at the time, told Mr. Risen and his editor, Jill Abramson, that the program was not mismanaged and that Iran had not discovered the design flaw. The C.I.A. prepared talking points for Ms. Rice that said that revealing the program would not only jeopardize the former Russian scientist — who had become an American citizen — but “conceivably contribute to the deaths of millions of innocent victims” in the event of an Iranian nuclear attack. Ms. Rice said she urged The Times to destroy any documents or notes about the program.
This is quite the shocker. Who would ever suspect a key proponent of the Iraq War to dabble in such outlandish hyperbole.
The Times ultimately did not run the article. Ms. Abramson, who was the Washington bureau chief at the time, said recently that she regretted not pushing to publish it. Told about Ms. Rice’s testimony, Ms. Abramson said in an email on Thursday that the trial “seems anticlimactic and pointless.”
The only question is, what are they “choosing not to publish” in 2015?
For related posts, see:
Editor in Asia Leaves Bloomberg News Citing Censorship
Google Transparency Report: Worldwide Government Censorship Requests Up 26%
Meet Amber Lyon: Former Reporter Exposes Massive Censorship at CNN
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Very old news.
this article serves as a reminder that everyone should get their news from VOA, which is *not* censored by the fedgov
and don't forget that the GOV-scum also "legalized" use of propaganda against U.S. citizens in the NDAA bill:
http://www.businessinsider.com/ndaa-legalizes-propaganda-2012-5
also, the sotu address is not censored
so it's ok to replay it over and over
but don't quote from it
contains copyrighted material
just meditate on it
and eat your vegetables
I think ZH should start Radio Free America.
Well its not like the government sends people to JAIL with a bag on theis head for some lame you tube video it disappoves of.
Oh wait....
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/09/jailed-innocence-of-muslim...
The WH and the media work for the same people
Jesus referred to these people you speak of as children of the devil, brood of vipers & synagogue of satan. So, at least we understand their origins.
WHITE RICE
BROWN RICE
CONDOLEEZZA RICE
If it's anything like the guardian and greenwald; they just walk in there with black suits, claiming to be from MI5 and start tramping on hard drives
If we had a white male president the media would be all over his admistration with a microscope.
You mean if we had a Republican of any color, don't you?
That's why they chose a POTUS who looks black. And even sounds it, when it suits him.
Clever, that's for sure.
Now I'm starting to wonder if Michael Jackson, Prince, Michael Jordon, and Beyonce were all just part of a long running media-CIA op.
All leading to "That One," as McCain referred to him.
Too bad so few understood. The Obola part, at least.
Obama: Any time you disagree with him you are a racist
Hillary: Any time you disagree with her you are a sexist
Get ready for it, unless she has another aneurism.
Of course. That's the function of the dimrat party in its faux battle against the republicunts. Between them, they nailed the most robust dynamics for dividing the people but good.
And it's no fun for a progressive--a real progressive--who likes 1) Real black people; 2) Real women; and 3), Yes, even Real gay people, to have to say that.
It's a horrifying joke what's been done via identity politics.
As if the law matters to the criminal class.
This article is wrong.
They ask nicely, and if that doesn't work they coerce. Just like they did to S&P over the debt rating. Usually threatening to deny access, or to give more access to competitors is enough to get the desired control.
But they can also harm a media business in many other ways. NSA database may even have some useful blackmail material.
That $1.5 billion "fine" will send a VERY clear message to any other ostensibly "private" entity whose actions might "adversely affect" the US hierarchy.
Don't ever assume such an act was not fully recognised Worldwide as nothing more than information suppression - and there are MANY out there who regard the US "Credit Rating" as very much junk - of a similar "value" to all those AAA rated MBS packages from 2007 . . . . . .
So, the "real" effect of this fine is to completely discredit ALL US based Ratings Agencies, in the intelligent (and thus informed) eyes of the World. Really "good for US Business" - not!!
Agree, this article is wrong. It's a red herring. Ebola coverage in the MSM (and ZH, incidently) went from saturation to zero OVERNIGHT. The only way I can explain that is some major coercive power. Cajoling and reasoning, even dropping a few implicit threats, with individual editors can not achieve that. NSA blackmail isn't enough. Only scaring the shit out of ALL media outlets with the threat of draconian punishment could do it. There must be a secret piece of legislation allowing that, maybe a secret part of the patriot act? Even mentioning its existence is illegal and heavily punished. They have their model, in Britain's D notices.
Hmm, I hope speculating about the existence of the legislation is allowed. Back in a sec, someone's pounding on the door....
The common theme here is government. Don't think we need them and how would we know they were gone?
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Excellent point. VOA must be considered an accredited news source.
How does a Criminal Fraud UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. & Pure Evil Psychopaths over at the CIA "Kill" a news story.
Just ask Michael Hastings. Oh yea, that's right. They Executed / Assassinated him.
Ditto Gary Webb...Suicided...2 shots to the head....
Don't fuck with the CIAs flow of spice....
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2004/141204webbmurdered.htm
Wait. VOA, Voice of America, fully funded by the US Federal Govt? I must have missed the memo about them being anything other than a propaganda arm of the govt. I did listen to them when I was working out in SK and China more than a decade ago on shortwave radio (SK also has AFKN, American Forces Korea Network which I think is the world's largest military radio and tv network), and I had the distinct impression that it was just a mouthpiece for the government. Happy to be proved wrong, so I'll check it out even though I am doubtful about your enthusiasm for VOA.
Dunno about missing the memo, but you sure as hell missed the sarcasm.
SARC? Damn it! They got me. I'm not even going to claim I was being counter-sarcastic with earnestness. :)
Gov't Goblins: "My you have a very pretty and young daughter and beautiful wife... I sure would hate to see anything bad to befall them..."
This is how they keep things out of the news.
A Famous quote from ZH comment section 2012..
''All my life... BOTH sides of the aisle seemed FOS to me... But it was only until 'recently' that I finally understood why... It's not about being ELMO... It's about whose hand is up your arse...''
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-11-12/devil-you-know
Censorship is not confined to the national and international media. In this part of the USSA, media organs are largely propaganda arms of owners with other, dominant interests all the way down to the county newspaper level.
Linear thinking is the way of the sheep.
Censorship is not confined to the national and international media. In this part of the USSA, media organs are largely propaganda arms of owners with other, dominant interests all the way down to the county newspaper level.
Linear thinking is the way of the sheep.
Don't forget when they show you the transcripts of your phone conversation with "Ms. Bambi" last Friday.
Yep. Perhaps child porn "found" on your computer, or drugs "found" in your car.
Behind the velvet glove of friendly persuasion, the nail gun squad waits to pounce, using whatever means necessary to silence Obama and Bush's enemies: rope (Aaron Swartz suicide), rigged car (Michael Hastings, although he was already dead), remote controlled explosives (SEAL team helicopter in Afghanistan) and poison (too numerous to mention, including Ohio Air National Guard Lt. Col. Raff, who shot down Flight 93).
Your list left out the infamous "D.C." Madame & most importantly JFK.
That is because you are not supposed to talk about those 2.
I just did. Na, na, na, na, na, naaaaa..... Fuck the Criminal Pure Evil Psychoapthic CIA & Criminal Fraud UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. & its Criminal Subsidaries the DEA, FBI, DHS, ICE etc....
Come & get some.
While I have a problem with a lot of the things that they do on behalf of American citizens I have a bigger problem with their propensity to lie about all of it.
The national securiy excuse is getting pretty old IMO.
MSM = osbsequeos, spineless, chicken sh*t progressive liberal democraps.
Q: What do islamic terrorists and progressive liberal democraps have in common?
A: They both want to impose their bullsh*t agendas on all the rest of us against our will.... fukem all..
Yeah...That Democrap George W Bush...was a POS as well as Boehner, McConnell, McCain and even that disloyal son, Rand Paul.
Fuck those Democraps. Yeah...The Red Team is better than the Blue Team...Rah...rah...rah..
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO POLITICAL PARTIES.
Thank those House RePUKES for putting the MONEY where thier MOUTH IS NOT AND FUNDING OBAMACARE..NOT ONCE...BUT TWICE, ASSWIPE.
Condi Rice worked for BUSH you fucking idiot. And you reply with a tirade on the supposedly progressive liberal demoSHIT Newswriters???
That is laughable. What a maroon.
I logged in to call BS on your comment. Most of the news supression is done by leftists and studies show >80% of mainstream news people are Democraps. Why do you think >80% of the alternative news media are conservatives? Whether the left is even capable of being sincere is irrelevant. The fact is the American people are constantly being fed a news diet of leftist, anti-Constitutional tripe.
GOP's Spanish and English State of the Union responses differ on illegal immigration, Cuba:
http://tinyurl.com/phxv2o3
LawsofPhysics, that is certainly "old news" to anyone who has been paying enough attention (which appears to be a relatively small percentage of the population.) However, what I find even older is the ways that people interpret the facts that the CIA and organized crime are blended so totally together, while the greatest fortunes tended to be founded on the greatest crimes, as Honoré de Balzac correctly observed long ago!
In my view, the deeper problem is that the vast majority of people want to continue to intepret these "news" events using the same old-fashioned false fundamental dichotomies and related impossible ideals, which result in all of the publicly significant opposition to the established systems being controlled to operate inside of the same bullshit frame of reference.
It takes a lot of time to try to get up to speed regarding the levels of lies, which are different at every level! One example of the kinds of material now readily available on the Internet is this hour and half long video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M1KD7Dnq4s
China and the New World Order
Another example is this three and a half hour long video, which has also been linked by many previous people posting comments on Zero Hedge:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM
JFK to 911 Everything Is A Rich Man's Trick
The title confirms what I had already concluded was the case, that the ways that the Kennedy assassination were successful, then led to those ways 9/11 was a successful false flag!
That video refers to the now declassified CIA documents revealing the irony that the phrase "conspricy theory" became a popularized way to insult and disparage, as a direct result of a real CIA conspiracy to use their media assets to promote that meme.
OF COURSE, that video is another reactionary revolution presentation. The majority is EXCELLENT ANALYSIS, mostly about the Kennedy assassination, which was put in the overall context of many other similar historical events. However, towards the end it presents bullshit "solutions" based on mistakes that blame EVERYTHING on the rich.
The ruling classes did NOT create the chronic political problems which are inherent in the nature of life. The ruling classes ONLY provided sets of expedient solutions which benefited them! Genuinely better resolutions of chronic problems inherent in the nature of life can not be achieved by blaming only ruling classes for being so deceitful. That video superficially "shares" some of the "blame" with the general population, but in no coherent way, other than typical psychology, without any ecology.
The degrees to which the ruling classes have successfully waged war against the consciousness of those they ruled over have penetrated DEEP into the dominate natural languages, and the dominate philosophy of science. There has been prodigious progress in human understanding of the "Laws of Physics." However, nothing like that has happened in political science, because the paradigm shifts that would be nececessary there would require coming to terms with how and why governments are necessarily the biggest forms of organized crime, controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals.
Since human beings and human civilizations operate as entropic pumps of energy, the best basic descriptions of how they operate are as systems of organized lies, operating robberies, and symbolic robberies, or frauds according to the principles and methods of organized crime, which repeat as fractal patterns on every level, through infinite tunnels of deceits. The mass media are run by the best available professional liars and immaculate hypocrites that money can buy, the same as almost every other social and political institution.
While that is certainly "old news" to those who have paid enough attention to recognize that the more one learns, the worse it gets, SO FAR, not enough people have gone through the looking glass of that Bizarro Mirror World. Doing so would require intellectual scientific revolutions in the ways that we perceive politics that were even greater than those paradigm shifts which have already happened in our understanding of the laws of physics.
In my view, we are collectively stuck in a double rut. The first rut is that mainstream morons tend to continue to believe the "news" disseminated by the mass media, (whose central feature is massive LYING BY OMISSION). The second rut is a much deeper one, that the relatively few who wake up to the degree that the mass media were LYING still want to continue to rely upon false fundamental dichotomies and related impossible ideals, when they propose their preferred bullshit "solutions" to those political problems, which "solutions" still STAY WITHIN the same overall bullshit frame of reference, based on old-fashioned common sense DUALITIES, instead of going on through to use more scientific UNITARY MECHANISMS.
What would be NEW, which is what "we need," is to go through enough paradigm shifts in our perception of politics for that to become more scientific. Of course, that is extremely difficult and dangerous on many levels! It is difficult due to the degree that we think using languages that are basically LIES, which includes the way that we think about the concept of entropy, as currently comprehended in the laws of physics, as well as, more obviously, throughout all the rest of the generally understood language about politics. It is dangerous because fully facing the facts requires one to cope with the paradoxes that NOBODY GUARDS THE GUARDIANS.
The mass media are obviously a tool of the ruling classes to continue to wage war against the consciousness of those they rule over. Since that has been going on and on for thousands of years, getting worse at an exponential rate, the magnitude of that problem has been amplified to astronomical SIZES.
There are now globalized systems of electronic monkey money, whose frauds are backed up by the threat of force from apes with atomic bombs. The growing grand canyon chasm between progress in physical sciences, versus NO corresponding progress in political science, is due to the history of successful warfare being based on deceits and treachery, which became the foundation for a political economy based on legalized frauds.
For human beings to become more scientific about themselves, in order to perhaps survive having developed weapons of mass destruction, used to back up entrenched systems of financial frauds, would require enough of them perceive political problems through radical paradigm shifts. It is NOT good enough to merely understand how the mass media are LYING, if one then continues to propose bullshit "solutions" based on collapsing back to presuming there should be some fundamental dichotomy between lies versus truth.
More radical truths are as paradoxical as the problems they should address, namely that governments MUST be the biggest form of organized crime, controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals, and therefore, the only realistically possible resolutions of chronic political problems are that better government MUST be better organized crime. Unless we could get to the point where enough people understood that, then we will continue to get the "old news" from reactionary revolutionaries demonstrating that we are being lied to by the major public authorities, which is correct, but then, those reactionary revolutionaries will continue to proposed the same old-fashioned bullshit "solutions," based on false fundamental dichotomies, and related impossible ideals, which will continue to actually cause the opposite to happen in the real world.
FLASHBACK video to 2009:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgkCw8_rIVw
NWO Conspiracy Bullshit - Deek JacksonOf course, I have, yet again, likely wasted my time attempting to point that out, since what is actually going to happen is that the spirals of backing up bigger lies with more violence are surely going to spin out of control, through times of peak social insanities, and social storms causing psychotic breakdowns, while my attempts to promote social psychiatry in that context appear to be nothing more than vain political fantasies.
I like to day dream about political science fiction, wherein there IS enough progress in political science that we can better resolve the chronic political problems inherent in the nature of human life. However, since all of the established systems are sets of historically developed solutions based on the maximum possible deceits and frauds, within which are included all of the publicly significant controlled opposition groups, I seem to be wasting my time to day dream about possible progress in political science, or to attempt to promote that kind of progress.
In fact, my current assessment of our situation is that our society is too terminally sick and insane to recover from that. The mass media are one of the worst enemies of humanity, which includes themselves too, since they continue to professionally promote the huge lies that control our civilization to behave in ways which are increasing criminal insanities. The established systems are based on systems of backing up legalized lies with legalized violence, with the mass media being major public components of those established systems. Moreover, within that context, the only significant public opposition is controlled to mostly stay within the biggest bullies' bullshit world view.
Those relative few to whom it is "old news" that the mass media are massive liars, who particularly specialize in LIES BY OMISSION, almost all still continue to think using the dominate languages, and dominate philosophy of science, which they tend to continue to presume are correct, without more critical analysis. Therefore, the vast majority of people who reveal some of the degrees to which the mass media are tools of the ruling classes, to wage war against the consciousness of those they rule over, mostly continue to still be metaphorical "Uncle Toms" too, in that they continue to think in basically bullshit ways, using the language originally promoted by the biggest bullies, because that assists professional liars and immaculate hypocrites to continue being so. Indeed, it is extremely difficult and dangerous to attempt to move beyond being merely controlled opposition to the established systems!
To over-simplify and over-generalize, it appears to me that the majority of people mostly still believe in the biggest bullies' bullshit. The majority of those who have somewhat recognized the degree to which the mass media promoted bullshit (since the mass media are mostly operating as CIA assets for the ruling classes), still tend to believe in bullshit "solutions."
It is, indeed, "old news" that we are stuck in double ruts. The first rut is that the dominant social stories are huge lies, while the deeper second rut is that almost all of the opposition to the established systems are still stuck in the same ruts, of using the bullies' bullshit language as the basis for their bullshit "solutions."
AN OVERALL SUMMARY:
... Organized Crime &
Controlled Opposition ...
Well, lucky for us now that we have the most transparent government EVAH! #MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
Take another bow Mr. Obama, or Soetoro, or Dunham, or whatever your name is & wherever you're from. YES YOU DID!
Name's Davis. Frank M. Davis, Jr.
Trust me on that.
Correction - it's real name is fudgepacker in chief...
We censored some folks.
No no no, you've got wrong. All we did was gently convince some folks that their folksy wisdom and good sense were just a wee bit in conflict with national security, and that for the sake of their fellow folks, they should, eh, you know, self-censor for your protection.
Cold hard cash seems the usual way to keep journos on side. JP Morgan bought them to push the US into war in 1917 to protect his loans to Britain and France. Britain paid Mussolini as a journo in Italy to push for Italy to enter the war.
The CIA was supposed to have 500 journos on payroll
Louise Bryant: "Granted, the profit motive
in the world economy
is a basic root cause for the war.
Do you feel that those
Americans who are pro-war
and who ascribe their motives
to patriotism are cynical or naive?
And, if they're cynical,
is it the cynicism of patriots
who feel that without a profit motive,
the power structure elite of this country
will not enter the war,
even though they feel
that the containment
of German militarism
may be necessary for..."
Jack Reed: All right, Miss Bryant, do you want
an interview? Write this down.
Are you naive enough to think
containing German militarism
has anything to do with this war?
Don't you understand that England
and France own the world economy
and Germany just wants a piece of it?
Keep writing, Miss Bryant.
Miss Bryant, can't you grasp
that J.P. Morgan
has loaned England and France
a billion dollars?
And if Germany wins,
he won't get it back.
More coffee?
America would be entering the war
to protect J.P. Morgan's money.
If he loses it, we'll have a depression.
So, the real question is,
why do we have an economy
where the poor have to pay
so the rich won't lose money?
All right, now, what haven't we covered?"
~REDS (1981) ~ Jack Reed & Louise Bryant
Cold hard cash seems the usual way to keep journos on side. JP Morgan bought them to push the US into war in 1917 to protect his loans to Britain and France. Britain paid Mussolini as a journo in Italy to push for Italy to enter the war.
Interesting. Thanks for the history nugget!
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/oct/13/benito-mussolini-recruited-mi5-italy
“conceivably contribute to the deaths of millions of innocent victims”
sounds like owebombacare
Unless it had a picture of what's her name's Ass, no one would have read it anyway.
This elevator only goes one direction.
i read financial times
Common sense for decades to anyone who isn't sleepwalking through life.
i've read stories of O attending private dinner parties where members of White House press corps were guests.
No effing way these "journalists" will say/write anything untoward toward the POTUS ... or risk losing access of having a beer with "the prez"
Makes you wonder, who isn’t working for the C.I.A. at this point?
More than 3 decades ago, the CIA owned all the media in the land of the free:
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." -- William Colby, former CIA Director, cited by Dave Mcgowan, Derailing Democracy
"You could get a journalist cheaper than a good call girl, for a couple hundred dollars a month." - CIA operative discussing with Philip Graham, editor Washington Post
Upton Sinclair nailed the sorry state of U.S. journalism in 1919 when there were only 41 major news organizations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Brass_Check
George Seldes did the same over the course of the next 75 years: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Seldes
Gary Webb is dead.
George Seldes was an avowed Maxist and valued informant for the KGB ... a defender of liberty? Hardly
...and a Tribesman.
The Media is the 4th branch of government.
Many, including many here, incorrectly see the Media as being Liberal. The Media is statist, not Liberal.
pods
Indeed, for the statism to not be seen, a long-running and intractable conflict between the washington generals and the globe trotters must be staged... hence the outward appearance of liberal bias.
*comment redacted - awaiting approval of the White House*
Someone who gets it. I've explained this to conservatives for years but their mind is made up on the matter and not open in any way to seeing anything differently.
No, no, no....Only CNN and MSNBC put out that liberal propoganda, but Fox News tells it like it is - so says my Red-blooed Republican sheep friends.
Liberalism has morphed into Statism ... Liberals were once interested in the rights of individuals are now promoting a larger, more watchful and controlliong state
"Liberalism has morphed into Statism"
No. It. Has. Not.
Statists are statists. A lot of statists run around masked as liberals. Just as do a lot of conservatives.
No, Liberalism is simply the favorite tool of the Statist. You can get statism with conservative thinking as well, but it takes a lot more effort.
What "effort" does it take to say "no" to everything?
None, but to achieve a statist government with conservative thinking you have to convince people that God/religion should dictate their lives. That's actually a lot harder than convincing them to simply take an EBT card that they can use to pay for food.
"Liberalism is simply the favorite tool of the Statist"
Indeed, but the state is the favorite tool of the liberal as well.
There is an important difference between 'liberal' and 'liberalism'. I.e. You can be a liberal socialist but not a socialist that adhere to liberalism.
This may be true today, but it hasn't always been true. My memory is far from perfect but I recall that sometime around 1967-68 the press began to be strongly anti-war. At the time, the fairness doctrine prevented wholescale anti-war slant in the news, but I recall Eric Sevareid sitting on a three legged stool giving CBS's opinion on various subjects - including the war. Then came Watergate and the frontal assault on Nixon. So, what happened? All I can guess is that corporate sponsors and perhaps public opinion (?) made them all a bunch of pussies. I'm not certain the media is statist. It seems to me that its more corporatist.
Statism and corporatism are the same thing in a fascist state.
Newsflash: we live in a fascist state.
The current statist status is liberal/communist/fascists.
'Statist' regurgitates the 'states' meme.
Facsist is more correct. Serving the corporate state/the 0,1%.
Loose lips...sink ships.....that was true in WWII...its still true today....our enemy would love to know everything we are up too.....its called security....
Good night, and good luck, then.
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Yep. That's why they employ the NSA.
That's what they call it, anyway.
B.S.
The concern is not about military tactics in time of actual war.
The question is whether we have an informed or uninformed citizenry.
The question is whether the public gets to know what "their" government is doing.
The question is whether we have a secretive government resting on deceit,
or an open government resting on informed consent.
The B.S. contention of "executive privilege" is nearly always used to prevent us citizens from knowing what our government does, not prevent "the enemy" from knowing anything useful.
(Of course, this begs the question, if not also supplies the answer,
exactly who a secretive and oligarchic government regards as "the enemy")
It does occur to me that you are more likely to spy on your percieved enemies than on your friends.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/entries/ae14be85-3104-3c74-a9da-85...
Adam Curtis!
George Orwell's warning in 1984 was more accurate than WE ever could have imagined. The Ministry of Truth is working better than ever.
The difference being the Ministry was made public, today most don't realize the manipulation. The local news and most of national coverage much like the SOTU is at an 8th grade level of information. It becomes offensive to watch as if being spoken down to.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/feds-collaborate-wikipedia-editors-improve-wikipedia-entries-related-government-publications_794261.html
AMERICA Poor
WAR middle class TERROR
TAX drone rich poor EDUKATION
FREE CONTROL GOVERNMENT INTERNET
But could there be a more ineffective propagandist than Josh Earnest? Every time I see him I want to throw a brick through the screen. And that's before he has said a word.
Orwell worked for the BBC during WW II, a very classy propaganda
outfit
This entire story is wrong.
Israel tells the Jewish people running all the American media what to print and when to print it. Stop trying to say ObamaBushClinton ect ect. have any say in what is in the news.
Jews living rent free in your brain.
A little info graphic to show where the control is.
https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/the-dar-133.jpg?w=750&h=1125
TL/DR: blackmail
Bill Clinton, a CFR stooge and Rhode's scholar, passed the 1996 Telecommunications act. This allowed cross directorates and centralized control of media. At the time, the "internet" was used a a foil to suggest competition would still be in place, and thus the media would not be monopolized. The press has always been influenced.
During the Aldrich affair, prior to maneuvering FED reserve act into place, German-Jewish banking elements used bribe money to influence editors at various newspapers. Congressional testimony revealed it to be only $4M dollars. So, top editors are easy to influence. These editors were also given articles to post. So, to suggest that Jewish money power did not and does not influence the press is complete non-sense.
The run-up to WW1 was similar, as the American people were propagandized relentlessly.
The New York Times has always been under influence of Jewish, if not Zionist elements. Either it was directly owned, or had editor censorship.
And please, those that scorn any mention of the Jooooz, need to sit down and shut up. One cannot understand Western history and maneuverings of money power blocks without looking straight at Jewish elements. Generally, those that scorn mention of Jewish perfidy are ignorant of real history. That, or they are agents trying to keep us from finding real truth.
With that said, lately the Times has been doing some good reporting. There appears to be some sort of schism in the Jewish community. American Jews are not necessarily buying into the "International." Israel and Zion seem to be represented by Israel lobby such as AIPAC, and the Times doesn't always go along.
Money power has metastasized from the International, and has now completely parasitized and infused the American State.
Clinton, "I did NOT have sexual relations with that girl!"
Al Gore, "I invented the internet".
Hello Captain Obvious!
Okay doode. You don't have to like the Jews. But carrying on like this causes me to dismiss you as a white supremacist tweaker Nazi. Who can't even be counted as an individual because the drugs and psychosis takes over your character without your control, in the same way that binge drinking does.
"But carrying on like this causes me to dismiss you as a white supremacist tweaker Nazi. "
Please, this Nazi thing is wearing thin and increasingly powerless in combating Hate Facts. If you can refute what he's saying please do. I'm genuinely interested in assessing competing views. But stop trying to preempt all discussion by waving the utterly discredited Nazi trope.
actually you idiot, AL GORE was instrumental in the creation of I2 or the Internet 2-a much higher speed internet for use only by business and education/hospitals etc-as a way to avoid the traffic jams and mess of the original Internet-I did a report on it for a Communications class
"One cannot understand Western history and maneuverings of money power blocks without looking straight at Jewish elements."
This is absolutely true and not a day goes by that I don't ask myself why it took me so long to see it.
Um, something to do with relentless propoganda? The reason they do it is that it works. Starting in childcare.
My 5-year old started in school this year. He takes the pledge of allegiance every morning. Pledging allegiance to a fascist state. I fucking love it. Not.
and what is great that since it has been discovered that most Jews are not Semitic, you can laugh them off the stage when they call you "anti-Semitic" in their favorite cliched whine!
By now they should be able to publish anything. Nobody believes them anyhow.
We're still in the 'soft-stage'. The hard stage comes when your fellow buddies on ZH begin to 'disappear'...
'We disappeared some folks'...
Ok, we know about what Chris Kyle did. How about we find out about Bowe Bergdahl, the soldier who walked off his post, who was seen with the enemy, the guy who his fellow soldiers died searching for, the guy we traded 5 high value targets. He might not have "conspired with the enemy" even though attacks on his buddies got "smarter" but he did desert. So where is the story about the outcome of the investigation. Did a general get promised an extra star or to be shit-canned out if he finds him guilty Or is this a story the WH and POTUS doesn't want printed.
How does the govt find out about the stories they kill? Are newspapers required to submit material to the govt prior to publication?
You do realize that they have access to EVERY communcation that happens right?
That's funny. I wouldn't sign up with ZH back when I purchased my "in the end the IQ of all CNN commentators drops to zero" t-shirt because I figured the authority's were watching all digital transmissions. haha. It ain't great to be right. It amazes me how public the info is about how people around the world are found by voice recognition programs. The [ bearded one] or how many times the msm even can "report" about the mass storage facility and still when I mention it, I'm the conspiracy Kook? I think they actually "like" the kool-aid.
ps, it took me so long to type this, I was only able to give you the second up arrow.
edit, I accidently gave myself and up arrow
"accidently" gave self up arrow? that is a severe breach of ZH etiquette and policy, but forgiven because you bought an overpriced t-shirt way back when.
supposedly CONNIE CHUNG was fired from CBS News way back when, for answering this question: "How do you choose which stories to cover each night?" Chung: "Oh thats easy-we submit a list to the Government and they tell us which ones to run, and which to avoid;"
Like the History rewrites in the book 1984, It is now stated that she insulted someone in an interview, or that her ratings were lousy... ad nausem, ad infinitum-i cant even find references on Google to a conspiracy nut who might have uttered this-i find this VERY strange
... some news outlets wouldn't allow to be censored ... just ask this hero >>> http://english.pravda.ru/news/russia/10-01-2015/129490-snowden_russia-0/ ...
kind of like how everyone except the japanese press are covering the kidnapping for ransom of two japanese nationals by isis who have sent the obligatory beheading stage video with a cute ransom note requesting 200 mil.
curious that this would happen immediately after nutandyahoo said the japanese would experience terrorism in comments made after his recent trip to tokyo.
It's old news, fine. But I know this strategy. I grew up in a military household with a tiger mom. My dad fucked with my head so many times like this. It has to be common in our government if this seeps into the house.
And it was so obvious. I called my tiger mom out on emtional blackmail, then dad says, "She does NOT emotional blackmail!" Tiger moms are synonymous with emotional blackmail, just ask Amy Chua.
I told him about the racism against Asians in the U.S. Same thing, he was the assclown who got mad because I was learning another language (or two) before I learned English - and I was almost held back in school for it. And I was forced to lose the other languages and speak English only. Mind you, I have a foreign name and I only speak English so in today's multifaceted world- people assume that either I know 10 other languages (I've lost out on job opportunities because of this) or that I'm a foreigner when I was born a US Citizen. Or so I'm told, I have a social security card, SS# so I can pay the taxes, I pay all of my taxes, fines, traffic tickets, I get credit checks, student loans, obey laws, etc. But the mofo breeder told me that I wasn't dealing with racism in a racist shithole.
The over achieivng Asians get white names to avoid discrimination, even if they speak a whole two words of English like my Japanese Calc TA did. And I consider them lucky. It's much easier for them to ignore the bullshit so they can concentrate on work and study because the rest of it is just nothing more than wasteful bullshit that was forced down my throat. I even told a latino once (covering my mouth and giggling) that I didn't speak any Engrish, he called me on my bullshit, called me out on it then called me a bitch. This was a semi-cholo btw....they don't pass their classes, they're not known for their intellect but they can call me out on this bullshit when whitey dangerous narcissistic control freak misses the obvious. Cholos prey on Asians btw- it's a long story but this is the American style of diversity and tolerance.
But me being a US Citizen is something that the NYT has to clear up from the McCain campaign, they were wrong more than once.
The lies cause a HUGE fucking mess for innocent bystandards and the liars need to have their eyes poked out.
I mean lying is so common, I'm so glad I don't have kids yet to discipline when sock monkeys are telling people that cannabis oil (made from cancer causing paint thinners) is a cancer cure, or that everyone is type 2 diabetic.
People who lie can't be trusted on their accuracy. If one were truly educated, they can apply the smoothest phrasing to be accurate. Otherwise, their PhD in International Politics (hi Condi Rice!) is a big fucking joke.
What is a tiger mom?
You whine. Get over it.
Hard to believe, I know, but there are actually people in this world who have to deal with worse shit than you did. Try your whine on the average Afgani, or Iraqui, and see how impressed thay are.
3rd option - a letter laced with a mysterious white powder?
Honest people dont need to be protected from truths.
Honest people can handle the truth.
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The media are not timid, they are owned.
And Kreiger is pwned...
cia dough
...that's a first...
If that doesn't work, they will release the government hounds on you and your family.
Wiretap, bug your computer, anything is fair game to these criminals.
As if that was not the plan.
The plan includes 6 billion rounds of ammo.
That's ridiculous. I have it on good authority that it's no more than 3 billion. Hollowpoints.
But but but I have been assured by trolls on RT time and time again that The West has free press while RT is just propaganda by the Russian government. Oh, Im SO confused now!
"Testifying in the leak trial of Jeffrey Sterling, a former C.I.A. officer, Ms. Rice described how the White House successfully persuaded Times editors not to publish an article about a secret operation to disrupt Iran’s nuclear program. James Risen, a Times reporter, ultimately revealed the program in his 2006 book, “State of War,” and said that the C.I.A. had botched the operation. Prosecutors used Ms. Rice’s testimony to bolster their case that the leak to Mr. Risen had harmed national security"...
The first time in her entire existence that "Cunti" gave a truthful answer!
But after her quotes no handcuffs?!!!
Didn't somebody from the "Gray Lady" go to prison for this when the pretext was a known felony lie and quite treasonous I might add by the government officials that leaked that information?!!!
Nope! Certainly ain't fixed yet!!!
That shit rope is just gettin heavier and longer!... But I still don't see no jail!!!
It's been known and proven now that the CIA has assets, i.e. paid people, inside most major news outlets. They sit on editorial staffs and in news rooms. A recent German story revealed the CIA inside German media. One estimate from a decade ago was 400-500 official CIA agents inside American major media. They simply apporach news people and encourage them to consider their careers, they can languish and even be fired, or they can quietly play ball, sign on, and work part of each day for CIA encouraged tasks. They even plant fully trained agents recruited in journalism schools, and use agents on editorial staffs to mentor their agents up the promotion ladder. If you say "yes" your career prospers. If you say "no", you don't know how they may react, but you do know "it will not be good for you".
I view all major media now as official state organs of propaganda. When any Washington ruler wants a story spun, or killed, or created out of nothing, they have all they need inside media to create the stories they want. I present CNN, MSNBC and FOX as glaring examples of official state news organs.
At least they don't pull your child out in the street and drill a hole in his head to send the message-maybe next year.
(That's an American Sniper ref, if you haven't seen it.)
It's common knowledge we here in the land of AUS are guineapigs for new laws. Last year one of these declared war on media, promising up to 10 year prison sentences for disclosing "official secrets"
Comming soon to America no doubt.
Lots of false narritives. Like violence being the only possible choice? Or that any solution must be perfect to work at all?
I believe many of our dear leaders think they can fool enough of the people enough of the time. So far, so good, it seems.
If that Cuntdaleeza Lice says it's in my best interest then who the fuck are YOUZ to argue?
SHE-DEVIL CHUCKY the Editors and the Journo's are JUST FOLLOWING ORDERS.
Barry the STOOGE is only reading from the Cabal's manuscript.
You must have VERY LOW SELF ESTEEM to WORK FOR AN ORGANISATION LIKE THE NSA in that, you're job description from day ONE is to FUCK OVER JOE PUBLIC.
The WH and the socialist media work for the same people.
When the 1% own everything that's the opposite of socialism. Just sayin.
What should the 99% do next? Could 1793 give some guidance?
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it's not censorship, it's being patriotic.
and this is what always happens during wartime.
and this is a war with no end because it's a bogus war against enemies of our own making.
Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace
Perpetual censoship by a bogus government?
I'm not quite sure which is the largest: enemies of our own making, or enemies that don't actually exist.
Either way, the enemy within is clearly far more numerous and far more powerful than the two combined.
I will quibble with ZH that Condoleezza asking a newspaper to withhold publication of something is "censorship".
If there was no government "quid pro quo", there was no censorship.
"Censorship" is a behavior of government.
Privately owned newspapers -- and their editors -- are often called on to use discretion regarding what they publish because there may be disagreeable consequences for innocent people.
Editors have consciences. It is perfectly reasonable for an editor in a libertarian society to have a conscience.
It is perfectly reasonable for an editor or owner of a privately owned newspaper to choose what or what not to say, informed by their consiences.
TV & Radio stations require broadcasting licenses does they?
Interesting point regarding radio licenses: the US did not have any license requirements until they created a new radio license law to kick Father Charles Coughlin off the air in the late 1930s,
I wasn't there in the 1930's so I have no idea if this is true or not.
But, I think there is a practical issue in radio licesnsing, which is the need to avoid interference with nearby stations.
Not gonna read all the commentns...did anyone mention the Anoymous hack of the HBGary e-mails? Te stuff they found was UNBELIEVABLE, and NOTHING the MSM about it, ever.
Disgusting
Read up on it if you don't know about it. So may .gov agencies involved in o much shady stuff...cn't believe no onemade a movie about it yet.
Good info, thanks. Some of the trolls around this place fit the description. This is worth a look.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/16/945768/-UPDATED-The-HB-Gary-Ema...
Poor left wingers! They were victims of internet "sock puppets".
News bulletin: leftwing moonbats also use this technique. Just ask any conservative talk show host.
Also, see megaphone:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaphone_desktop_tool
Nothing at dailykos is worth reading, unless you are a raving lunatic moonbat.
THE IRISH SAVANT On The Public’s Free Press Fantasy
Thilo Sarrazin on the Limits of Free Speech in Germany
"Most people want to observe the prevailing code of conduct but, being busy with jobs and families, they have no informed opinion of their own on most matters. So they think and believe what the media say they should think and believe."
New news algorythm...if its good news...its a lie..if its bad news...you'll never hear it on TV...if it is bad news that gets out anyway...click bait over to the '30 Actresses Who Were Caught Neked'.
Even this is not really needed however because my fellow Americans are just not interested.
If all else fails, the government can always hack the computer in your car and cause a crash, or mail envelopes of deadly white powder to troublesome journalists.
Naaahhh, that's so tin foil . . .
I highly recommend watching The United States of Secrets (it is on Netflix) if you want to truly be sickened to your stomach. It goes to show just how much Cheney was actually in control when Bush was president, just how cowardly the media was about not running some of the leaks about the wiretapping of U.S. citizens after being leaned on by Bush to not run the stories, just how often and easily our administrations were and are lying to us about the extent of the wiretapping, which big corporations willingly handed over our personal data to the NSA (namely Verizon, Google, Microsoft and Facebook) and just how quickly then Senator Barry Obama became a political turncoat when he was up for election in 2008 (how he went from "No more secrets! I will have the most transparent administration in history! No more spying on the American people!" to fully embracing and even expanding the wiretapping program. It is a real eye-opening documentary, especially if you are of the ilk who actually thought that Snowden's leaks were damaging to national security.
How do we trust a narrative from PBS? How do we trust a story from the Guardian? These are highly compromised sources!
The entire country is spooked by Greenwald's revelations - like the NSA has replaced God now, listening when you whisper, reading your thoughts, watching you beat off and judging you, so be very, very careful and quiet!
It just all feels off to me.
A contribution, worth saving, doesn't nearly live up to the expectations raised by "... one thing we know less about is specifically how the power structure goes about suppressing news it doesn’t want reaching the plebs. Until now." We still are looking for the details about how the media manage the routine daily tasks of kiling stories, publishing dissinformation and acting in concert on the themes nd talking points of the day.
For example, we've known since Phillip Agee's Inside the Company about the CIA's role in fabricating stories from whole cloth. How is it done now and how is the uncritical acceptance of fabricated stories managed and enforced?
How direct a role do the owners of the 6 corporations that now control 90% of all US news outlets play in setting the signals that their corporations follow?
we now know about the CIA buying thousands of journalists in Germany, making careers of those who play along, breaking careers of those who decline to. Who's on the take here in the US of A? Who handles them? Do they all know who's paying them off? How is discipline maintained and how is a ceiling set for those who aren't playing along? Or is it different here, because the secret government IS their owners?
We can track largely-unreported stories and see who does cover them. The nexus seems in 2008 when I was tracking this seemed to be - surprisingly - PBS/NPR and the BBC, which alone were 100% in not covering a killed story. Is someone from there calling the shots? Someone in Langley and they're just under more direct control? How are the signals transmitted without triggering outrage? Or do they get decided by the owners on the golf courses and transmitted through them?
MSNBC appears to be an exception to the rule, but it is owned by the same oligarchs and when I was following "killed stories" they didn't show up as a maverick at all. Who sets and enforces the ground rules fot this kind of managed dissent? Do they just have limits? Or are they part of a more sophisticated and cynical political circus?Jack Burton answered one of my questions - would like to be able to say that with authority so I'd like a reference. TrueWho, thanks.
Rice=Cunt. Simple math, no?