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Has The ECB QE Already Failed? 5 Year Inflation Expectations Decline Since Draghi's Announcement

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Just as we pointed out explicitly yesterday, ECBQE will 'not' provide the inflation-expectation-lifting hope that every talking head proclaims as its raison d'etre... just as FedQE did not. We noted previously that Draghi's actions would likely send the most deflationary signal ever to the world's policymakers, and sure enough European 5Y5Y inflation expectations have dropped 10bps from yesterday's highs and round-tripped to the levels seen before Draghi unleashed the money printing machine.

 

Draghi - we have a problem...

 

What we expect...

 

 

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Of course - in reality - QE was never about any of that - it's all about stawks stawks stawks and wealth creation for 1%...

 

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Fri, 01/23/2015 - 11:52 | 5696770 JRobby
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New story (ie NEWS) content of posted link?

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 12:02 | 5696832 NotApplicable
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LOL, I just remembered I've got a dead (no longer funded) "post employment healthcare account" sitting in a Euro-stock fund.

I might be able to afford Obamacare after all!

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 14:28 | 5697436 KnuckleDragger-X
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Sign up today for your pre-failed credit card and we'll automatically file your bankruptcy papers for you.....

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 11:51 | 5696723 PartysOver
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"Of course - in reality - QE was never about any of that - it's all about stawks stawks stawks and wealth creation for 1%..."

I know it, you know it, the whole world knows it.

When the game is up it will be a doozy.  But until that time comes BTFD

 

Edit:

Some peeps are just convinced that the world is going to implode.  I think what is greatly overlooked is the fact so few own so much wealth that they will never let it happen.  Thieves gotta be thieve'n.  There will always be wealth extraction/generation in some asset.

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 11:54 | 5696783 JRobby
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True, hard to protect all your assets when they are spread far and wide across the planet.

How do you pay security forces when currencies collapse?

And those hackers!

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 13:12 | 5697142 Son of Captain Nemo
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Thieves gotta be thieve'n. There will always be wealth extraction/generation in some asset. ...

And while they are "thieve'n" that 1% is killing and looting "physical assets" that are the only ones that matter from a whole lot of people in some very strategically located places that defend themselves in ways the "1%" ain't thinkin about enough!

If this was just about markets and not moar wars to acquire that additional wealth I would agree with you, but we both know the dynamics of this one this time around are different than any other we've seen in the last 70 years!

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 11:42 | 5696724 Bobby Blue Shoes
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"Of course - in reality - QE was never about any of that - it's all about stawks stawks stawks and wealth creation for 1%..."

Precicely.

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 11:44 | 5696725 medium giraffe
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DOA. Whistling in the wind.

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 11:44 | 5696727 Sudden Debt
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Well, that was worth a trillion euro’s...

HEY DRAGHI!! LET’S GO ON THE SLIDE AGAIN!! ROUND 2!!!

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 11:45 | 5696729 kowalli
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What will happen when they got to the 0?

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 12:55 | 5697085 Sudden Debt
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Recalibrate the chart and use coke as a parameter of value?

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 11:46 | 5696738 ZomBiEHiGH
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Wait, isn't the line supposed to go up? Oops

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 11:46 | 5696740 disabledvet
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Seems to be doing a great job nuking the euro.

 

What's the problem?

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 13:11 | 5697143 roadhazard
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Europe needs a weak currency to be able to sell anything. QE does that for them.

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 11:49 | 5696754 gatorengineer
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maybe I missed it, but I dont think the bond buying is necessarily on the primary market.  I belive this is a case of the ECB buying bonds on the secondary market, from banks that will book enormous profits on same (wealth transfer to the 1%, with a nominal notion that it will improve the banks liquidity).  Secondary benefit by devaluing is to try and goose exports, cheap oil gives them cover to do this.... 

Am I missing something?

 

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 11:48 | 5696757 JRobby
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It is the definition of insanity.

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 11:51 | 5696768 jose.six.pack
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ROFL

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 11:52 | 5696771 NoWayJose
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Trillions in QE from the Fed and BofJ have not produced 'government measurable' inflation in either the US or Japan -- so why would Euro QE cause inflation?

Maybe the better solution would be to make the 'government measure' of inflation show 'real' prices???

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 11:53 | 5696785 SickDollar
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maybe euro has that finesse they are supposedly known for lol

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 11:57 | 5696805 NotApplicable
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What the fuck does reality have to do with "expectations?"

And why are you using the word solution in the same sentence as government?

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 12:29 | 5696962 SickDollar
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+100

all you had to  do is read his user name : "No way Jose" is Sort of primitive , derived from some  TV /movies lines

 

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 11:53 | 5696777 SickDollar
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ECB-QE faild for sheeple is a expected, nothing new here

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 11:54 | 5696784 buzzsaw99
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they only ever wanted financial asset price inflation. that's the "good" kind of inflation according to them and they got it.

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 12:06 | 5696840 PoorMan429
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Exactly, wage inflation will never be permitted. Support the assets, depress the wage earners. 

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 11:54 | 5696791 Eternal Complainer
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"..Of course - in reality - QE was never about any of that - it's all about stawks stawks stawks and wealth creation for 1%..."

So long as those stawks aren't in the PM sector

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 12:01 | 5696813 Silver Bullet
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Sell your gold, max out your credit cards and buy yourself some BOX and just ride the wave!

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 11:56 | 5696800 Silver Bullet
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If there are actually any QE supporters on this board could they please tell me how even if QE 'works', how would this ACTUALLY benefit,say, the Spanish economy in any way that actually funnels down to the real economy?

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 12:00 | 5696816 NotApplicable
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I think you're asking on the wrong website.

www.UnicornFarts.com is where your answer lies.

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 12:22 | 5696929 slightlyskeptical
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If you don't eat yer losses, you can't have any inflation.

How can you
have any inflation if you don't eat yer losses?

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 21:42 | 5698597 daveO
Fri, 01/23/2015 - 12:22 | 5696933 tok1
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Theres something off with reaction to ECB QE. When US/Japan/ China did  fiscal stimulus or QE oil/copper both rallied on expected increase in demand in the real economy. Since the  ECB QE they have continued their fall. Also rates went up initially both for US/Japan when they began QE on expectations inflation would rise (only to come down later) .. but here they have just fallen, ie only front running ECB, no expectation of improved growth / demand / inflation...

Maybe QE with NIRP doesnt work

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 12:27 | 5696963 khakuda
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Of course inflation expecations have dropped.  QE IS DEFLATIONARY TO THE REAL ECONOMY AND INFLATIONARY TO ASSET PRICES.  Over inflated stock and bond prices causes an artificially low cost of funds which makes investing in excess capacity seem worthwhile.  Too much capacity versus actual demand = collapsing prices.

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 12:30 | 5696970 john_connor
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QE is actually aggravating deflation.  Banks have less impetus to lend when they can mark to fantasy, borrow at zero, and trade in a rigged casino.

 

So moar QE = moar deflation = moar QE and so on.  Until they buy everything, and then...

Fri, 01/23/2015 - 12:45 | 5697036 SheepDog-One
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Need moar bunga-bunga obviously.....bend over, serfs!

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