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"Out Of My Face Please" - Why Are US Soldiers In Mariupol?

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Amid the devastation of yesterday's Mariupol artillery strikes which killed or wounded dozens, which was promptly blamed by both sides on the "adversary" - and has been proclaimed by both 'sides' (more on that later) as more violent than before the truce - an 'odd' clip has emerged that appears to provide all the 'proof' a US intelligence officer would need to surmise that US military boots are on the ground in Ukraine. As the following clip shows, a Ukrainian journalist approaches what she thinks is a Ukrainian soldier (since he is wearing a Ukrainian military uniform and is carrying an AK) and asked him as they run through the battlezone, "tell me, what happened here?" His response, which requires no translation, speaks for itself.

Forward to 2:36 for the 'Ukrainian' soldier's response:

Here is a clip which focuses just on the exchange in question:

With daily reportage of the 'invasion' of Russian military forces into Ukraine territory (admittedly unconfirmed by NATO), this clip raises many questions about American involvement in the ongoing conflict - most of all, was the US involved in the "staging" the Mariupol massacre, and if so it is clear who should be blamed (and isolated).

Of course, US troops, or at least mercs, on the ground, should not be a total surprise, since just 2 months ago, we discussed the hacked US documents that revealed the extent of undisclosed US "lethal aid" being given to the Ukraine army. What was apparently left unleaked was the part of the US aid also includes US-speaking soldiers. The only question is whether US taxpayers are paying their wages.

 

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Sun, 01/25/2015 - 12:25 | 5702079 epicurious
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Someone has already clipped your clip here Tyler!

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 12:33 | 5702094 Haus-Targaryen
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Not sure its an American, but definitely a native speaker.  A Brit perhaps?  

If it is an American -- he has a unique North-Eastern accent I haven't heard before.   

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 12:35 | 5702109 papaswamp
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Agreed...plus the 'please'... We just arent polite in combat mode.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 12:36 | 5702127 Stackers
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Yep, sounded like a Brit to me as well.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 12:40 | 5702140 Haus-Targaryen
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Whoever he is -- I would imagine its a Blackwater type, and not some Marine on vacation looking to kill something.  

Still though, if the Seperatists can get their hands on a native English speaker -- all hell could break loose, depending on how they handle it.   

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 12:44 | 5702176 cifo
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It could also be someone looking for some fun. Like reality Call of duty. Or Doom.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 12:48 | 5702208 Macchendra
Sun, 01/25/2015 - 12:59 | 5702258 Macchendra
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Also, his hiding his face is mens rea that he is an american soldier.  Also, he seems to lack the moral loophole when confronted that is in a mercenary's psychological profile.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 13:01 | 5702278 Liberal
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As a staunch liberal, I think he sounded very North Korean.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 13:09 | 5702314 Occident Mortal
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As a Brit myself I can assure you 100%. This guy is not British.

That is NOT a British accent. Also our special forces don't say please and thank you, they scream "Sit DOWN and SHUT THE FUCK UP or I will cut your FUCKING HEAD OFF" they don't ask twice.

He is North American. Canadian or from US East Coast.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 13:15 | 5702362 SWRichmond
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+1 East Coast USA

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 13:20 | 5702385 me again
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Yes. thanks to the native brit. above; the idiots on here are driving me nuts.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 13:28 | 5702423 Romney Wordsworth
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Relax people ~ The EM-50 Urban Assault Vehicle just took ma wrong turn & that was Russell Ziskey just trying to get directions to get it back on course.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 13:42 | 5702494 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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I'd be more surprised if special forces weren't there and even more surprised if the mercs weren't.

This is the kind of stuff that shadow governments lust for...

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 13:46 | 5702523 Ignatius
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He looks and sounds Russian to me.

Clever and devious lot, those Russians.

(taps fingers waiting for check to clear)

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 14:05 | 5702615 Stuck on Zero
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You guys are missing the whole point.  That footage was not taken in Ukraine.  It was taken in Detroit.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 14:29 | 5702729 Son of Loki
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Merikan troops, " winning minds and hearts ...."

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 14:37 | 5702752 FEDbuster
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Queue up the e-trade baby's "surprised" face.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 15:03 | 5702844 Arnold
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West Roxbury, Massachusetts, maybe Quincy.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 15:23 | 5702870 Barnaby
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Pure Studio New Jersey. Matt Bevilaqua, Sopranos.

Heck, the actor who played him is a criminal, they might've made him do a voice-over.

I reference a very humorous cop propaganda piece called "Techniques & Mechanics of Arrest" starring the weird pervy elder guy from the Matrix and Omega Man, plus Ned Beatty of "getting reamed in the ass" fame. I shit you not,

Hollywood is fucking perverted.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 15:33 | 5702938 Buckaroo Banzai
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Yes if he is an American, it definitely sounds more like a New Jersey accent than anything else. Or possibly a Philadelphia accent. I am not 100% convinced he is American though. The word "face" sounded rather odd.

He is definitely not British or Canadian. 

Possibly South African?

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 15:52 | 5703010 Herd Redirectio...
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A South African would have said "Uit my gesig, man!"

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 16:03 | 5703037 Romney Wordsworth
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A SAfrican would have annunciated "Sath Eeefreekuh"

 

I've shoplifted enough SA pootie to know what they sound like.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 16:59 | 5703250 7.62x54r
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He's an American Soldier.

His accent is definately American, not Canadian, and the "please" is the result of standard training for US soldiers when dealing with civilians.

This "brit" bullshit is just damage control by Obamunists.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 17:03 | 5703260 Self-enslavement
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Israel trying to make another Silicon Valley in the Ukraine... Not going so well...

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 17:46 | 5703427 McMolotov
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Arguing about his accent is a distraction from the main points, which are:

A) He sure as hell isn't Ukrainian.

B) He sure as hell isn't Russian.

C) He sure as hell has the accent of someone from the West.

This is proof positive that the West has "boots on the ground" in Ukraine. The West has thus far produced much less evidence than these few seconds that there are Russian troops on Ukrainian soil. This should blow the whole US-NATO narrative out of the water, but it will never be reported in the West aside from "fringe blogs" like ZH.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 17:50 | 5703488 kaa1016
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You guys need to stop the shit. That is not a US soldier. That is a contractor, like Blackwater or Xe or whatever they call themselves. Where there is shooting, contractors are there. That's why they are called mercenaries.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 18:05 | 5703551 Dave Thomas
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Sounds like a guy named Bernie who used to work at the Fort Lee Diner lol.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 18:10 | 5703575 McMolotov
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We don't know if he's a soldier or a contractor. What we do know with a high degree of certainty is that he's from a Western nation, being paid by a Western nation, to fight someplace that no Western nation should be involved.

In light of that, it seems rather pointless to argue over whether he's a soldier or a mercenary. Neither one should be there, especially in light of the flimsy "evidence" the West has produced with regard to alleged Russian interference.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 18:30 | 5703660 11b40
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Since the draft ended, all U.S. troops are mercenaries.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:39 | 5704409 The Blank Stare
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Brits don't interchange their "t's" with "d's"

 

For example 

Brit-potato US-patado

So, "ou-da my face" is definitely US.

 

And "please"? Who says that but an educadeted operative

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 23:33 | 5704826 DaveyJones
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not a brit

agree with the others east coast, northern

not canadian

(says the english major)

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 00:42 | 5704974 Lore
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Note the prounciation of "out" using the short 'a' or '[æ] vowel, as in "æoutta my face."  That is a distinct eastern-state Americanism. MORE HERE.

Going forward, it will be amusing to witness American troops attempting to fake accents from other parts of the world.  "Me luv you long time!"

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 02:01 | 5705134 Four chan
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America

Fuck 

Yeah!

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 07:30 | 5705217 JuliaS
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It's WW2 and we're bickering whether the fascist is German, Italian or Japanese.

You think Russians and Ukrainians are concerned whether he's British, Canadian or American? Does it matters to them? All they see is a "Western invader". And to be honest, we haven't made any effort to differentiate ourselves as nations. American, British or Canadian - aside from army slang and healthcare back home is there a difference when it comes to messing up other people's backyards? Is there any difference as to where the English-speakers stand on Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Ukraine etc? I say, the merc couldn't be from any of the places and it wouldn't matter squat, because all the places are exactly the same.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 08:24 | 5705511 killallthefiat
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"I would like to appeal in a special way to the men of the Army,
and in particular to the troops of the National Guard, the Police,
and the garrisons. Brothers, you belong to our own people. You
kill your own brother peasants; and in the face of an order to kill
that is given by a man, the law of God should prevail that says:
“Do not kill!” No soldier is obliged to obey an order counter to the
law of God. No one has to comply with an immoral law. It is time
now that you recover your conscience and obey its dictates rather
than the command of sin."

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 16:29 | 5703159 hesk
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Yep, I am from Philly and he sounds like someone from this area.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 16:50 | 5703216 Romney Wordsworth
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So it's finally settled then... It was Mark Wahlberg playing Vince Papale...

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 17:28 | 5703362 scrappy
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That was "Jersey Mike"

The bulge in his pockets was cheesesteak regular issue mre.

 

 

 

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 19:30 | 5703916 puckles
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Frankly, he sounds just like Bruce Willis, who, as I'm sure you all know, hails from the Garden State.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 15:39 | 5702968 Headbanger
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He's an American mercenary along with the dude ahead of him carrying weapons typical of the area.

But no big surprise cause Ukraine is probably paying huge money to these guys and it's a much better gig than the ME!

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 16:22 | 5703130 patb
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Ukraine is broke, they don't have the money for Blackwater.

 

It could be an adventure seeking bored, ultimate Yuppie Hobo,  but

it's more likely a merc working on contract to the CIA.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 17:07 | 5703271 7.62x54r
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US mercs in the Ukraine are not being paid for with Uke money.

They are being paid by the CIA. Your tax dollars at work!

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 17:49 | 5703494 Mountainview
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Some Oligarchs have their own mercenary zoo. Sort of a mercenary United Nations.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 00:41 | 5705003 Rock On Roger
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Some of George Soros 'philanthropy paid for that.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 07:52 | 5705424 Refuse-Resist
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Mercenarie 8.1 courtesy of Bill Gates?

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:02 | 5704285 me again
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Correct, of course. I believe our boy is an actual CIA Asset. he's not just cannon fodder. probably part of a CIA/SAD team.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 09:08 | 5705605 Agstacker
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Yea, he's probably just looking for a geo-cache.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 16:09 | 5703068 Phuk u
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'Squeal like a pig' fame ?

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:04 | 5704487 Frankie Carbone
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No way that was Detroit. Two things, First, no colored people. Second, the neighborhood looks too nice. In fact, I thought that I saw a shop in that clip that wasn't boarded up. 

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 17:38 | 5703417 DFCtomm
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Obviously Mossad. Did you see that radiation cannon he was carrying?

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 20:47 | 5704239 Urban Roman
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.. obviously is little green Roossky guy on triple-secret vacation.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 14:33 | 5702744 ParkAveFlasher
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THAT'S A FACT, JACK

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 16:44 | 5703204 Aussie V
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I think it sounded like Bill Murray.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:48 | 5704433 The Blank Stare
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The EM-50 Urban Assault Vehicle

 

How many got that one?  lol

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 07:18 | 5705383 SHRAGS
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Cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria!

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 14:41 | 5702761 king leon
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Well: Fuck off some where else then!!!!

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 19:53 | 5704002 Escrava Isaura
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Article:

Why Are US Soldiers In Mariupol?

 

Answer:

Because war is the only business left after financial failure and Empire collapses.

 

And the Bread and Circuses:

Keep wondering about accents

 

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 03:30 | 5705231 StychoKiller
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Pretty sure we can all agree that the soldier was not Pakastani!

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 04:36 | 5705277 dolbiere
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might have been warned in advance.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 14:19 | 5702687 TheRideNeverEnds
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I would be faaaaar more surprized to learn that the US did not have any agents over there.

 

Last I checked the .gov public disclosure shows we have US military personel in 150 countries.

 

There are only 195 countries total which means the US has troops in 77% of all countries on the planet.  And that is if you trust the governments own stats.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 01:11 | 5705009 Lore
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At least ONE American had to go over there in order to deliver Victoria "Fuck-The-EU" Nuland's $5 Billion Dollar cheque to fund the local coup.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 16:15 | 5703095 pot_and_kettle
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Definitely.

Somewhere between North Carolina and Southern New Jersey, I would guess.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 16:38 | 5703191 shovelhead
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North Joisey?

Nah. That would be "Geddafuggattaheah".

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 17:07 | 5703277 7.62x54r
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Yep. Middle Atlantic. Probably not Pacific Northwest, as his accent isn't clipped enough.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 17:14 | 5703300 Ballin D
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Agreed, his accent wouldnt stand out to me in NC (outside of overanalyzing it like we are now). 

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 18:48 | 5703638 MrPalladium
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You guys are missing the real significance of this.

The soldier is a low level grunt. Any "advisor" level officer with a brain would have spent a couple weeks learning enough Ukrainian words, phrases and accent to tell a reporter to buzz off. This means that there probably are many hundreds of these yanks, mostly behind the front lines, there to prevent "unexplained movement to the rear" by Ukie soldiers, a euphemism much in favor with the instructors at Benning School for Boys back in the day. Inability to speak or understand Ukrainian would be "useful" in that role.

Long and the short of it, they are highly paid chicken shits.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 03:22 | 5705224 PiratePiggy
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I have lived in New Jersey for decades as well as the US south. Worked for UK and Canadian clients.  I think most people here are guessing the US northeast because of the speed that he talks.  Keep in mind that, like me, military people have lived many different places and their speach is a mix of where they live.

Having said that, this person did not sound American to me. Neither did he sound Canadian. My first reaction was British but even before I read the other comments, I concluded that I had been mistaken about that.

I suspect Australian or South African and have worked closely with people from each of those countries.  If it is someone from the US, my guess would be east coast southern mid-Atlantic states. Maryland, Virginia, possibly New Jersey or eastern Pennsylvania. 

When I consider the words, "outtamyface" that implies north or North Carolina more than other US regions, I agree. I don't know if that phrase is used in Australia or South Africa.   Consider that the speaker was probably not giving prepared comments. Perpared comments and reacting or speaking instinctively.

 

Regarding who this person works for, no idea. Keep in mind that during the cold war, the Russians would arm their friends with US weapons that they captured in other conflicts and the US would arm its friends with Russian weapons.  War is like a game of poker - you can't win if everyone sees your hand.

 

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 16:55 | 5703236 ebworthen
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Yup, Northeast USA, initially Jersey ring to it, but some Bostonian twang.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 16:59 | 5703251 Oldballplayer
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That is not New England. Sounds more Philladeplphia, but the area--not the city.

You think someone from Boston would not say, "Get the fuck out of my face."

And when was the last time you heard a twenty something in New England ask Please.

The consensus around here is that if she was really hot, they might say please.  But not otherwise.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 17:18 | 5703312 ebworthen
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A former Marine would say please and not cuss at a Woman.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 23:53 | 5704890 Ballin D
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unless he went on to become a cop in the US

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 18:26 | 5703645 11b40
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Northeast, to be more precise.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 19:59 | 5704046 me again
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Yes; hard to cut through the disinformation campaign, here; it's fucking obvious to a student of American and English Accents, as I was, by accident, that he's a native speaker from the North East Power corridor.; educated.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 13:17 | 5702378 Payne
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South African Merc or Black Water agent samething.  Def.  South African accent.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 13:21 | 5702388 me again
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NO. wrong.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 14:07 | 5702633 Payne
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Lots of disinformation on this issue, lots of down votes.  Very interesting.  Don't know what it means other than people have no contact with English speakers from other societies than US and UK.

Me Again has very stalking behavior but not alternate theories or support.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 14:25 | 5702716 toothpicker
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stop trolling

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 14:40 | 5702748 Max Steel
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 UNDENIABLE PROOFS :

1.)From a journalist working deep inside American Media - and who for that reason would prefer to remain anonymous: Maybe time for an Eliot Higgins-style agglomeration of the video evidence? With the videos circulating widely of the American/Canadian accented 'get outta my face' guy wearing an Azov battalion uniform and another guy caught on video in Azov uniform this weekend speaking with a cockney British or Scandinavian accent, time to strike while the iron's hot. In semi chronological order: Here's the footage from early March in Donetsk that had the UK Daily Mail asking whether American Blackwater type mercs had been deployed on behalf of Kiev:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2576490/Are-Blackwater-active-Uk...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-11/400-blackwater-mercs-deployed-u...

2.)Germany's Der Spiegel and Bild am Sonntag (check German spelling) later reported that 400 US private military contractors had been deployed to Ukraine's southeast Here's the infamous video of the 'I'm an American citizen guy' getting beaten by militia reportedly filmed in Kharkov back in April with a description: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R23NEPvGgw8  Here's a 'Ukrainian National Guardsman' politely speaking fluent Italian to a group of Italian journalists in late April/early May. Kiev Twitter trolls claimed this was merely a Ukrainian migrant who returned from Italy to do his duty for the homeland. You decide. Polish mercs or advisers purportedly killed in shootdown of IL-76 near Donetsk airport in June already referenced by RI in October, along with formation of Polish-Lithuanian-Ukrainian joint brigade. Shootdown of IL-76 was accompanied by a lot of enraged tweets in NATO circles, one wonders if they knew Polish advisers were on board and were killed when the plane was destroyed with all hands:

http://russia-insider.com/…/polish_mercenaries_and_arms_flo…

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28951324

3.)Note that Poland has denied having any troops fighting alongside Kiev forces and has insisted it would punish any Poles fighting as mercenaries for Kiev as this contradicts Polish law banning mercs without government authorization. BBC admitting September 1, 2014 that Poles are fighting in volunteer capacity, while also reporting on foreign volunteers for Kiev's battalions and DNR Vostok Brigade:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VXyzA7xL1k 15:55-16:54 video allegedly uploaded by DNR a week ago after capture of Donetsk Airport Polish flag captured by DNR forces at Donetsk International Airport ruins with 'solidarity with Ukraine' written in black marker on the front. Latest evidence bringing story up to date from this weekend in Mariupol: Native English speakers or English speaking Scandinavian non-Slavic mercs caught on tape:

https://twitter.com/Sevodnay/status/559055357558149120

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3bf_1422135521

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 18:06 | 5703563 Mepaulus
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I notice Eliot Higgins is keeping his head down over this report, it doesn't fit his narrative. Maybe he's waiting for the Paris Match photo to turn up next month showing the "yank" speakers getting out of a Russian APC parked in the next village

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 01:10 | 5705069 Thaxter
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One of Russia's foreign ministers claims Mariopsol bombing was a false flag attack. Perhaps US mercs are on the ground to prep another false flag attack of some kind.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 17:13 | 5703292 7.62x54r
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I have some ethnic-english friends from SA, Canada, Australia, and Britain, and was born in the US. This person is speaking in a middle-atlantic American accent, and his politeness to an annoying civilian screams US military training.

Your "non-American" bullshit is the current Obama line.

This might be a clue why you are getting downvoted and laughed at.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 19:42 | 5703959 Urban Redneck
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But his use of English while ostensibly on duty in a hostile non-English speaking country is not indicative of "specialized" US military training.  

The again since Clinton, Bush and Obama have all cut standards so far, anything could possible is now. 

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:08 | 5704298 me again
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Thank God you're here to help out with the disinformation barrage. but I'm predjudiced; I love the 7.62X54R; I reload them wiht 200gr. Lapuas and Win. Mag. powder for my handmade long distance "target" rifle. I like something with plenty of smack to it at the terminal end. Works great at 1000Meters.

 

 

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:21 | 5704332 chubbar
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OH BFD, can you get blood to splatter if you make a 3' head shot?

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 17:59 | 5703539 DFCtomm
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Really, really? It's disinformation?? It's a conspiracy!!

 

WTF is "Me again has very stalking behavior" ? English doesn't appear to be your native tongue so how the hell would you be able to distinguish where he's from by his accent.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 13:25 | 5702418 The Shootist
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I was just thinking it's definately not any American accent. Has to be some former British Colony -S. AFRICA, Aussie, New Zealand, or even a smaller one.

I'm definately leaning to an African merc. He could even have been from Kenya or Rhodesia, I don't know...

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 13:41 | 5702514 jeff montanye
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"definately (sic) not u.s. ... i don't know"

right

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 17:15 | 5703299 7.62x54r
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You are buying or pimping the Obama party line.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 18:57 | 5708253 The Shootist
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I was right, so fuck all y'alls. British explosives expert.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 17:29 | 5703373 scrappy
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Kunta Kinte???

 

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:49 | 5704391 One World Mafia
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He says "face," not "fice."  He sounds like he's from Pennsylvania.  

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 13:47 | 5702528 oddjob
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Canadian accent. probably serving with the CSOR.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 13:49 | 5702540 me again
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Wrong; I lived there. Where the hell do you live; he sounds about as Canadian as my Samoan gardener.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 13:58 | 5702582 oddjob
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Hopefully the entire City of Ottawa is put on trial for war crimes.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 14:30 | 5702734 Son of Loki
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He's speaking english, not espanol, so he is definitely NOT from America.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 16:21 | 5703117 oddjob
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I'm Canadian, and I have travelled in the US(not anymore), and I never ever heard an American say please.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 19:46 | 5703981 Urban Redneck
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Most tourists don't visit US military bases... and the towns that surround those bases tend to be in flyover country, where manners still exist.  

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 06:38 | 5705342 Ghordius
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manners, yes. heroic ethos, too. recruiting stations, also. in short, flyover country seems to be a place where lots of polite warriors come from

I appreciate the manners, I have respect for the ethos. but I resent their mis-use as covert soldiers, be them as mercenaries or "green men" in the Russian fashion

I find it's an insult to their warrior's ethos, their courage and their willingness to sacrifice themselves. it would be time for both the US and Russia to comply to the Geneva Conventions, for starters

which includes a stop on the use of private corporations for war, which includes mercenaries

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 19:49 | 5703999 me again
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Oh, fuck off.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 14:04 | 5702619 DeficitAlchemist
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Bollocks to SA.. utterly not, &  totally Amwerican end of.. I am from SA & well travelled

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 07:53 | 5705430 Refuse-Resist
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Every South African I've met either has a british(ish) accent or a german(ish) accent. Boer or English.

 

Not East Coast American. That's why you got a downvote from me.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 14:08 | 5702639 Condition 1SQ
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Concur, defintely not British.  Sounds like he's from the Midwest US.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 16:18 | 5703111 quasimodo
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I live in the Midwest, his accent is about as non Midwest as I have ever heard. Sounds more like an eastern sea boarder to me. If this guy was from the Midwest he would have said get the fuck out of the way please.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 05:53 | 5702678 YHC-FTSE
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Saw this video before somewhere. 99.9% certain the bloke is N.American. The other 0.1% anyone who had schooling in N.American english - some of the scandanavians have that experience, but that's stretching it.

 

EDIT: Sorry - my original post was banal. As usual, McMolotov and others are correct to point out that the accents of the soldiers is not the issue. The point is that Western mercs/soliders/agents are roaming around Ukraine. Just as we've slowly been embroiled into an economic war in the past year with sanctions and fx attacks against Russia, I believe that our mercs/soldiers and theirs are now directly shooting at each other. If it carries on like this it's only a matter of time until this proxy war becomes something much more closer to home.

The whole thing is insane. It's insane to provoke a war against Russia, it's insane to support a bunch of disgusting nazis in Kiev, it's insane to support a bunch of zionists pulling the strings in the State Dept and Israel (Victoria Numan of the State Dept, the Dnepropetrovsk governor, Igor Kolomoisky - an Israeli oligarch, the PM of Ukraine - Arseniy Yatsenyuk). How the hell can we allow this to happen in plain sight?

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 06:19 | 5705337 Ghordius
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YHC-FTSE, we all post banalities, from time to time. +1 for the insanity rant, but:

the biggest insanity is to be partisan in this conflict. followed by the insanity of claiming that "if you don't support this side, it could escalate to..."

mercenaries? even they are victims of this conflict. and mercs don't "happen in a vacuum". mercs were recruited in insane amounts for Iraq

close one war, and soldiers go home. mercs? they look for a new opportunity

so I do not support the use of "disgusting nazis in Kiev". Yes, some Ukrainians are Nazis. Yes, Kiev uses them. But so does Moscow with it's own fascists, which of course aren't called this way, by St. George, patron saint of both sides

the enemy is the conflict itself. the fuel discussed here is the mercenaries that were recruited beforehand for that insane "search for WMDs" and further small-scale conflicts

both sides do represent virtuos Peoples. both sides are acting cynically, thanks to a cynicism which is abundantly represented in the ZH commentaries

both sides have their extremists in the front lines. but blaming mercenaries as such it's just chasing a red herring

the real question here is when both sides are dragged to a peace conference. meanwhile, some countries should stop using private companies for military conflicts and should stop fostering conflict (which leads to military budgets, too)

as one commenter noted, the Polish mercs in this conflict face prison in Poland if identified/caught. not so in most English-speaking countries, hence the long debate on the accent, here

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 07:05 | 5705367 YHC-FTSE
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You're right of course - the enemy is indeed the conflict itself. Having followed this for almost a year, I find it very difficult to detach myself from criticising those I can see as the instigators of war. From the State Dept coup that ousted the elected president of Ukraine by shooting at both protestors and police for months (Where have we seen that before?), to the unelected PM Yasenyuk telling Ukrainians that the separatists will be burned alive on national tv. They all tell me that the rebels, now formed into Novorussia, had no choice but to fight or be exterminated in their own country.

I guess it is unwise for me to pick a side, and goodness knows I am against the tide of opinions in the msm, but my conscience and my senses tell me that the people who have started this war are immoral and therefore my sympathies lie with those who are against them. My sympathies will always lie with the oppressed rather than the oppressors, but I sometimes wish I could be as detached from all this suffering as those who are wise enough, like your good self, not to take sides.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 07:13 | 5705376 Ghordius
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"My sympathies will always lie with the oppressed rather than the oppressive... " that's the good ol' instinct of being for the underdog. beware of white vs black hat

problem is, there are no underdogs in this conflict. Even the rebels have a big supportive Uncle, right at their frontier. So the claims that they face extermination are propaganda, too

it's old-fashioned fascist vs fascist, driven to a frenzy by Washington and Moscow for their own purposes in the imperial fashion of the Great Game

it's also the legitimate Ukrainian government fighting for the integrity of it's own sovereign territory versus the legitimate rebellion of a province which has legitimate grounds to protest against ethnic-linguistic discrimination

both sides are right. except in the continuation of this conflict with those means, particularly the covert ones

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 07:53 | 5705432 YHC-FTSE
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I have no doubt there is a lot of wisdom in what you write. In fact, I remember Manipuflation's words of caution on this issue last year about voicing support for one statist over another. I hope you can see my dilemma in recognizing the wisdom of your views and agreeing with you whilst at the same time fulfilling a need to express my displeasure at those I see as the immoral sellers of war. (Or perhaps more immoral than the other guy :)).

You may or may not remember that last year I criticised myself in a post I wrote that questioned my own hypocrisy in being an opponent of all wars yet being unable to reconcile that sentiment with my support of the rebels. I suppose it all boils down to the right to live in peace against those who consistently make this world a living hell by continuing to use violence and murder as a solution to complex problems. I think I have made the correct judgement on just who these warmongering criminals are, but I am and always will be open to counsel and caution (peer review, if you like) on my posts. Thank you mate.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 08:21 | 5705498 overmedicatedun...
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Ghordiius:"some countries should stop using private companies for military conflicts and should stop fostering conflict (which leads to military budgets, too)"

if that were to happen the usa would take a big hit to GDP..and Cia could no longer do wet work in conus via proxy contractors who legally are  exempt unlike cia employees who by law are not allowed to work in conus.

convient is it not.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 14:19 | 5702685 Lumberjack
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I'm from Maine and definately not a Maine accent. There are 4 distinct accents there. Could be Nova Scotia or New Brunswick Canada.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 16:25 | 5703146 Headbanger
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Thank you Maine-iac!

AND YES BLAME CANADA! BLAME CANADA!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOR38552MJA

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 17:17 | 5703315 7.62x54r
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Middle atlantic.

Pennsylvaia to northern North Carolia, or the Old Northwest. Probably not Pacific Northwest, not clipped enough.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 19:42 | 5703964 Lumberjack
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Sounds like that ISIS guy to me.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 15:28 | 5702934 Farqued Up
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DEFINITELY NOT from the American Southern states. Wherever he's from originally, his native accent has been tempered by travelling around. An example could possibly be a native Irishman that has spent a lot of time with special forces in or from Ft. Bragg, Campbell, Benning, etc.

Not enough conversation by him to pinpoint closely his native dialect and accent.

 

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 15:32 | 5702950 BullyDog
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Agreed, as an ex squaddie. I didn't hear any fuck off or you'll get slotted, in either scottish, jordie, welsh, brummy, cockney or any of the other colloquisms we have. Nobody speak politely, and it definately wasn't a sandhurst hertfordshire accent. :)

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 02:23 | 5705159 medium giraffe
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Agree, but that said his jacket does look like DPM w/ MOLLE vest..

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 16:04 | 5703049 daveO
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He's bound to be US military. A mercenary would'a kept his mouth shut.

 

 

 

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 16:35 | 5703171 atomicwasted
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+1 Canadian.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 16:49 | 5703217 richiebaby
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I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it was Geraldo

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:07 | 5704502 August
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>>>He is North American. Canadian or from US East Coast.

Indeed, though I'd include the US Mid-West as possible, and certainly NOT from the South East coast. 

Hope this guy/merc gets exactly what he deserves, which will hopefully include a fair amount of pain.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 01:03 | 5705056 babkjl
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He doesn't sound Canadian to me, although it's not far off from Eastern Canadian. It's not a typical Nova Scotia, Cape Breton, or Newfoundland city or outport accent I'm familiar with. If our British poster is certain he's not actually British, then it's probably North Eastern United States, just like the interview with the Maine lobster fisher.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 13:32 | 5702296 SafelyGraze
Sun, 01/25/2015 - 14:05 | 5702623 HowdyDoody
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Oh dear, so now someone is going to make a 10 hour version.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 13:09 | 5702312 hedgeless_horseman
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His accent is definitely New England.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 13:15 | 5702361 flapdoodle
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The "outta my face" is US (New England!) blue-collar slang. The "please" to a female reporter says Xi/Academi to me...

The covering of the face seals the deal...

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 13:51 | 5702551 Escrava Isaura
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Very good observation. Perhaps correct as well.

 

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 16:51 | 5703225 richiebaby
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"seals the deal"  Pardon the pun?

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 13:19 | 5702364 Cognitive Dissonance
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I agree, though it is hard to tell since it is clear he is educated which tends to cleanse the accent. I would not be surprised if he is CIA....or at least a CIA operative.

My intial gut reaction was western CT or just north of NYC.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 13:23 | 5702396 me again
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Yes; I call it the northeast corridor; yes educated; which means, CIA. yes.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 15:42 | 5702984 Buckaroo Banzai
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Don't think it's New England. Spent enough time there to know. New Jersey or possibly a Philly accent. It's really hard to tell from just a few words.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 16:58 | 5703245 e_goldstein
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Ohio valley would be my guess; but yeah, not enough to go on.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 17:04 | 5703266 Oldballplayer
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If he was from Ohio he would be there to bore the Russians to death.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:11 | 5704525 August
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Yes; I call it the northeast corridor; yes educated; which means, CIA. yes.

Those are good calls, Gentlemen.  The guy actually sounds a lot like me;  I've taken various "accent tests" and am informed that I have a "Connecticut accent".

 

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 13:31 | 5702450 rwe2late
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 a variety of choices

CIA, "Blackwater", dual citizen operating out of Israel, maybe even Canada

 

but does sound "American"

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 13:32 | 5702455 corsair
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He could be Ukrainian "volksdeutsche" volunteer from East Coast.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 20:04 | 5704026 me again
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You are really dumb. There isn't a Ukrainian or Czech or Serb anywhere in N. America that can pull off that speech pattern. Listen closely, dipwick; he is a native speaker fromj the Northeast power coridor; New York, across the Hudson, up and swinging West into Penny. Period.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 20:27 | 5704142 swmnguy
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I took his comment to mean an ethnic Ukrainian born and raised in the US.  I have an old friend born in Michigan, to parents born in Michigan, raised in Minnesota, who considers himself Polish.  Some people really fetishize where their ancestors came from.  If there were a war in Poland it wouldn't surprise me if he went there, even though he's almost 50 and has no military training.  And if he's fighting on the side of the US MIC, nobody would make anything of it.  Of course, if he were a 3rd generation immigrant from Syria or Somalia, for him to go fight in a foreign war would be an act of Terr'ism.  And probably say something about his religion and ethnicity too.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 16:37 | 5703151 SofaPapa
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As a native US citizen, he sure sounds US to me.  But where in the US I cannot be sure.  Sounded urban to me, not rural, but the accents in the US are so intermixed at this point, it's near impossible to tell where people are from, even when you hear a lot more out of us than this.  Almost no one who hears me speak has correctly guessed my origins, for example.  But yeah, he sure sounds like an American, though I could believe with this few words, he could be from another English speaking country.  Certainly native English, though.  Which means without a doubt there are "western" troops (at least one) fighting for Kiev.

For those declaring "not an American", I can only suppose that they are aiming at a foreign audience.  I can't imagine someone from the US not having heard this kind of accent a lot, so to tell us it's not what we hear all the time is a waste of time.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 09:45 | 5705708 tarsubil
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Yeap. Former recon or something similar out of somewhere around CT (hence foolishness of speaking and using polite please) signed by the CIA. The way he desperately covers his face is a big red flag in favor of CIA. I'm not sure Xe or Blackwater or whatever they are calling themselves these days would worry so much about that.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 13:30 | 5702448 Romney Wordsworth
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 "His accent is definitely New England."

 

RED [SOX] Dawn bitchez!

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 13:35 | 5702480 spiral galaxy
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Eureka! MSM has finally found the culprit behind the NE Patriot inflation gate! Long live the MSM!! /s

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 14:04 | 5702613 Cognitive Dissonance
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And now back to the bread and circuses beer, boobs and football.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 20:36 | 5704197 Lumberjack
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Ever try de-flating a puck! ;)

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 15:28 | 5702625 Romney Wordsworth
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Enough is enough!!! I'm telling you we need George Plimpton to get to the bottom of this.

 

"No more shenanigans... no more tomfoolery... no more ballyhoo..."

 

But back to the question at hand...

 

Why Are US Soldiers In Mariupol?

 

Answer: I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you!

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 14:03 | 5702605 OpTwoMistic
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That POS you voted for sent me.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 14:18 | 5702682 TheMeatTrapper
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He ain't from Alabama. That I can promise you.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 15:56 | 5703027 adeptish
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Blue collar greater New York area

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 13:20 | 5702320 hedgeless_horseman
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Dump bag on left hip, baseball cap, and most definitely the Magpuls on the magazines in his load vest are absolutely indicative of USA GI. 

He certainly has a beautiful AK.  Looks new.  Very nice wood and finish looks absolutely gorgeous.

No Ukes use Magpuls.  Zero.

http://www.magpul.com/products/original-magpul%C2%AE-%E2%80%93-7-62-nato...

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