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"Out Of My Face Please" - Why Are US Soldiers In Mariupol?
Amid the devastation of yesterday's Mariupol artillery strikes which killed or wounded dozens, which was promptly blamed by both sides on the "adversary" - and has been proclaimed by both 'sides' (more on that later) as more violent than before the truce - an 'odd' clip has emerged that appears to provide all the 'proof' a US intelligence officer would need to surmise that US military boots are on the ground in Ukraine. As the following clip shows, a Ukrainian journalist approaches what she thinks is a Ukrainian soldier (since he is wearing a Ukrainian military uniform and is carrying an AK) and asked him as they run through the battlezone, "tell me, what happened here?" His response, which requires no translation, speaks for itself.
Forward to 2:36 for the 'Ukrainian' soldier's response:
Here is a clip which focuses just on the exchange in question:
With daily reportage of the 'invasion' of Russian military forces into Ukraine territory (admittedly unconfirmed by NATO), this clip raises many questions about American involvement in the ongoing conflict - most of all, was the US involved in the "staging" the Mariupol massacre, and if so it is clear who should be blamed (and isolated).
Of course, US troops, or at least mercs, on the ground, should not be a total surprise, since just 2 months ago, we discussed the hacked US documents that revealed the extent of undisclosed US "lethal aid" being given to the Ukraine army. What was apparently left unleaked was the part of the US aid also includes US-speaking soldiers. The only question is whether US taxpayers are paying their wages.
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Yes; correct.
Looks like an ACE skeleton stock on his AK, too.
Agree, the kit, language and accent make this an American. Notice, too, that he was not alone. Wondering what Putin will say about this...not that he doesn't know, I'm sure, but perhaps now there will be a push to "collect" a few of these guys and put them on TV.
MFing agents of chaos.
People like to say that prostitution is the oldest profession, but it is not. "Hired Killer" is.
For the past 15 years, we have had a Multi-National group of Military and Private Military operating closely together.
The lingo, the gear, the tattoos, the beer, the food, the motor oil, the radio sets, etc have all been seen (and tried) by all these guys.
Yes, much American gear is Coveted by foriegn operatives. They can order it online at will. The Oakleys, the A-Tacs and Multicam, all that shit.
Certain techniques of structuring your rig for Comabt are common sense and tend to be universal (the dump pouch, etc) excluding the military due to regs.
My point is that the argument that we are seeing an american cannot be based on a sentance uttered, his swag or his rig.
..."the argument that we are seeing an american cannot be based on a sentance uttered, his swag or his rig."
LOL. It doesn't matter how many concordant facts are found: all are refused ("cannot") and are kept independent of one another. That dumbass CIA operator looks real book smart (and well geared up), but he remains so dumb he can't think to just say fucking NIET when caught on camera during the false flag!
Too much cocaine and degenerated partying makes all your operatives dumber than dumb, no matter how much money and 'education' you throw at 'em!
(Although clearly, this dude is a soldier, not a god-damned crisis actor full of crocodile tears, and obviously he only knows what he needs to know, that dumb shit)
Haha.. That is Cocaine funny.
WTF FACTS? He had a gun? He spoke in native english? It's a long way from there to conclusions.
He was only level I proficiency in Russian, they wouldn't allow him to use it in the field.
Anyway,
He struck me the 2nd time viewing as a possible CIA/SAD dude.
You hit it on the head with that last sentance too.
SO who the fuck knows.
Wow! Lots of folks diss you.
Why is this such a big deal??
I am scratching my head wondering "What difference does it make?" His nationality/origins/employer is as relevent as what type of dresses he wears. To have everybody here debate/argue over this merc's accent is a diversion.
In both cases, the culprit is nothing more than a wild ape.
It was THIS guy, no doubt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL-bVY7YZQI
Or the other guy.
Neither his weapon nor his gear can be identified. You can not see magpuls, you cannot see an AK-47. And the guy in on the false flag would walk past a reporter with a camera and speak to it. Pretty stupid flase flagger.
You are fucking blind.
HH,
I am going through this frame by frame..
Look at 25 secs. on the 2nd vid.
I think they caught a CIA SAD team on the hoof here.
These guys are all sporting the latest Arcteyx LEAF (Muticam Pants), Patagonia, Grey Ghost (pack) and Other high end kit.
That looks like an SKD Tactical "PIG" chest Harness he has.
My Apologies.
Still not a surprise.. or shouldn't be to any ZH reader.
Polite Men In Brown...speaking american...yupp...the americans sure as shit are hip deep in genocide in Eastern Ukraine.
How on earth can you tell the brand names on their clothing??? The video isn't that good. Most of this shit (5.11, Propper, etc.) all looks more or less the same unless you are looking at it right up close.
There are "Classes" of this type of gear.
The real deal stuff is high end.
http://leaf.arcteryx.com/Home.aspx?language=EN,
http://www.patagonia.com/us/patagonia.go?assetid=52569
Beyond, Massif, Pantax, etc all have lines of high end kit.
It's the cut/drape of the clothes and the type of the gear.
This shit doesn't have tags.
Some types of gear are only made by one manufacturer and they stand out compared to the rest of the stuff.
Notice the somewhat "tailored" cut?
Notice the pockets and locations?
That pack at 25 seconds is a "grey ghost operator" pack (at least I think it is).
How can some guy on Wall St. spot the difference between a cheap suit or a real tailored suit?
Rifle is an AK74 variant, you can tell by the curvature of the magazines and the muzzle brake.
Apology accepted. withdraw my counter. agree CIA/SAD. 90% probability.
SO I am safe out at 500 YDS now?
"Look at 25 secs. on the 2nd vid."
At 25 secs on the second video we see the "speaker's" back at a distance of perhaps 15 yards. You can see some sort of weapon on his right side, but you cannot identify what weapon it is. In addition, you certainly cannot see any Magpuls at that distance, or angle. In an earlier frame you can see his magazine pouches on his vest, but you cannot see the magazines themselves.
I am not blind, nor do I see things that can;t be seen.
I am looking at 2 other gents.
One wearing a pack that looks very much like a "boutique" manufactured piece of kit.
This pack is NOT common.
They are wearing tailored clothing, form fitting, not baggy like common bdu type clothes.
Ball caps that form fit.. Not goofy ass one size fits all (issue type) ball caps.
They are wearing a mix of Camoflauge and Civvilian colorings.
Earlier, the guy up close is wearing a US made chest harness.
This is a team of operatives on the move.
They got "caught" by this crazy lady with a mic and camera and were like WTF!?!
They are probly a recon team or advisors of some sort as they didn't seem like they were equipped for sustained combat.
Obviously this is not good. But its not like it wasn't known or at least suspected.
As many posts above and below indicate, there is lots of evedence of 5-EYED Countries involved in UKR.
Has been for a long time.
I recall seeing articles about obscure intelligence "comic books" alluding to the coming UKR "Revolution" including NATO etc.
These comic books are supposedly "dead drops" for intel agencies as well as entertainment...
http://www.phantomreport.com/sci-fi-writers-predicted-civil-war-in-ukraine
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2014/07/science...
disinformation troll; write downthe screen name.
There seems to be more then one of them.
The guy filmed from the back and the guy saying "Outta my face" are two different persons.
From UK:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=magpu...
From Russia:
http://molotok.ru/listing/listing.php?string=magpul&search_scope=
Nah... They don't have those in UKR.
I didn't say they could not get them.
I do know the Ukes do not use them, or didn't very recently.
The USA does.
The Ukes were trained to combat load and tactical load in a way where the mapgpul doesn't help, but rather it inhibits the manipulation, because their magazine pouches are neither elastic, nor open-topped. One simply cannot fit a magazine into a Russian or Ukrainian magazine pouch if it has a polymer magpul on it.
Point taken on the Mag Pouches.
This guy is CLEARLY PMC.
EDIT: I can't really say that... He could very well be CIA, MI, or some other governmental "division" that we don't know about.
Why does it matter where he's based?
It's a 5-Eyes Nation (maybe SA)... For sure.
FWIW SA is not 5-Eyes.
We know that PMCs, CIA and likely SOCOM are over there training the Ukies.
It stands to reason that we will be seeing more and more western kit deployed as the western training kicks in.
The native english means he is from one of the above catagories or an independant contractor.
It would make sense for trainer/advisors to take their cadre out on ops to assess training and advise during the ops.
I just can't tell on the accent.
They don't have any money genius; they're not ordering joe tactical shit from Amazon they're trying to stay alive. Duuh.
I'd expect that a PMC would actually have the money to properly equip himself.
A Ukie.. Maybe their "handlers" have an account at MidwayUSA?
It's not like a UKR soldier isn't being equipped. Many photos I have seen show them using western kit too.
It's a mashup of all kinds of gear, people, etc.
Good luck telling a fucking thing useful about american involvement from this video.
Mr.Ignorant :
Here's the footage from early March in Donetsk that had the UK Daily Mail asking whether American Blackwater type mercs had been deployed on behalf of Kiev:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/…/Are-Blackwater-active-Ukraine-…
http://www.zerohedge.com/…/400-blackwater-mercs-deployed-uk…
Germany's Der Spiegel and Bild am Sonntag (check German spelling) later reported that 400 US private military contractors had been deployed to Ukraine's southeast
Here's the infamous video of the 'I'm an American citizen guy' getting beaten by militia reportedly filmed in Kharkov back in April with a description:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R23NEPvGgw8
Here's a 'Ukrainian National Guardsman' politely speaking fluent Italian to a group of Italian journalists in late April/early May. Kiev Twitter trolls claimed this was merely a Ukrainian migrant who returned from Italy to do his duty for the homeland. You decide.
Polish mercs or advisers purportedly killed in shootdown of IL-76 near Donetsk airport in June already referenced by RI in October, along with formation of Polish-Lithuanian-Ukrainian joint brigade. Shootdown of IL-76 was accompanied by a lot of enraged tweets in NATO circles, one wonders if they knew Polish advisers were on board and were killed when the plane was destroyed with all hands:
http://russia-insider.com/…/polish_mercenaries_and_arms_flo…
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28951324
Note that Poland has denied having any troops fighting alongside Kiev forces and has insisted it would punish any Poles fighting as mercenaries for Kiev as this contradicts Polish law banning mercs without government authorization.
BBC admitting September 1, 2014 that Poles are fighting in volunteer capacity, while also reporting on foreign volunteers for Kiev's battalions and DNR Vostok Brigade:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VXyzA7xL1k
15:55-16:54 video allegedly uploaded by DNR a week ago after capture of Donetsk Airport
Polish flag captured by DNR forces at Donetsk International Airport ruins with 'solidarity with Ukraine' written in black marker on the front.
Latest evidence bringing story up to date from this weekend in Mariupol: Native English speakers or English speaking Scandinavian non-Slavic mercs caught on tape:
https://twitter.com/Sevodnay/status/559055357558149120
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3bf_1422135521
"http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3bf_1422135521"
Your link above goes to FB. First of all, fuck facebook.
second, is that deliberate? I think it is.
Fuck Facebook.
Goodluck to you to "thanatos" if I ever ID you within 600 yds.
Actually the Ukraine Army rifles are in very good shape....never fired and only dropped once
Sounds a lot like this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-cl=84503534&v=qJcG0cPtJO8&feature=pla...
think that solider
was Sara Palin in drag...
The NATO magpuls aren't for AKs. 7.62 x 51 is a much wider magazine. But I shall stop the picture and look see.
I m from Massachusetts and he doesn't sound like a Canadian or American. The S African sounds like a close match.
He is much too nice. An American would have knocked her teeth out and said not word. A male journalist would have been knifed.
Fuck off troll. We already have native So. Africans on here saying no way.
@Macchendra Guaranteed he is not from Maine. Are you from Massachusetts?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asmto0ihXa4
To all mercs, especially those who are entangled in foreign affairs: I don't care how honerable you think your service was, you are fucking scum. I won't lose a single wink of sleep if you get killed over there.
No, there're Scum Fucks who derserve & I hope get killed over there & other parts of the World where there're assisting in destabilization campaigns.
EV, I understand the sentiment.
Sadly most PMC's are not in it for the Honor.
They recognize that the structure they are part of merely nods in the direction of Honor as cover for some of their activities.
They are in it for the MONEY.
They know how most people feel about them and don't seem to mind too much.
Of this PMC population, about 60+% are "normal" family guys that are trying to make money legitimately, without breaking any laws.
They like to dress us and play army while doing PSD or Static Site work. - They aren't "going after people".
If you work in a truly risky environment, you will want some for yourself.
There are of course (as in any profession) outliers in every direction within the remaining percentages.
These are the A-Holes that you have the beef with...
Most legit outfits will try to screen these types out pre-employment.
There are lots of "privateers" out there now and these are the types that will actually become involved in offensive ground ops.
No Excuses.
Just want to add my 2 cents.
We will fight the Ruskies to the last American gentile boys. Huihuhuhihuihuhihuihuihuihuihuihui.
Vaquero,
So, you support the Russian/New Soviet push into the region?
I support not getting involved in shit that is none of our fucking business and I support not starting WWIII. Especially since I know where the targets for Russian ICMBs near me are. Do you support the US push into the region? Because we instigated that coup over there.
EDIT: And get a grip, the Soviets ceased to exist over 20 years ago. Jesus, you probably lived through that shit and you still refer to them as the Soviets? If you cannot even get that simple fact straight, your view is seriously fucked, almost like you are a neocon thundertwat.
He's not a neocon thundertwat, he's a paid hasabara/CIA troll.These guys, aside from their content, are really easy to identify through their names.
Trustbutverify
AmerikanPatriot
etc.
Their subversive in that their right out in the fucking open. They sound like they come straight off a fox news broadcast, with that blond bitch Megan Kelly vomiting them up with a disapproving look and tone.
Throwing facts at them is like throwing logic at an emotional woman. Water off a duck's back.
CIA trolls are neocons. They're doing neocon work. They should be ridiculed and made to feel unwelcome. 14 years of war is reason enough.
I know a few and they are religious nut jobs. Same as the AF intel guys.
This blog is a watershed for trolls on Zero Hedge!
i have not seen this intensity for three years
The Kiev coup government is massively mobilizing and arming.
They have pledged to conquer the anti-coup regions.
The IMF (i.e. USA) has demanded that Kiev does so to get paid more money.
To expect the anti-coup forces to quietly await massive assault is unrealistic.
We should oppose the US-IMF funding for, and insistence on, more warfare.
The hypocritical insistence that the Kiev coup government is entitled to subjugate other regions must end.
We should all support a settlement that accepts the break-up of Ukraine,
a divorce for irreconcilable differences.
So you wouldn't have a problem if Russia instigated a coup in Mexico or Canada and sent mercs and Russian missiles into those countries?
Putin clean up Mexico?
From your lips to God's ears.
Can't support it because it doesn't exist. It's a perfect example of "tell a big lie and tell it often", -Adolph HItler-, There's no push. No nothing. it's your TV tube talking to you; where did they push ? who did they push ? how stupid are you / normally stupid ? that's pretty bad.
Better yet they should return to their homes and find them empty of their relatives.
That could be arranged.
We are all mercs in one form or another.
then shoot yourself .
Don't worry; you won't feel any payne when I find you.
He's a Brit.
Probly working for one of the many PMC's that are getting fat in UKR.
Conflict is a small world. It's like big wave surfing or big wall climbing..
No matter where on earth it is, you will see the same cast of characters in attendance.
Conflict Junkies...
Reporters, Mercs, Contract Support personnel, Medical, Etc.
No surprise that a Brit PMC or independant Merc is on scene.
In fact, it would't surprise me a bit to find there are native English speakers fighting on the Russian side as well.
war.
jobs for the boys.
"sides" don't enter into it really, the toys/pay/pillage-privileges - all of history shows this, if you can admit the truths.
Ya,
that's what I said.
Sides are arbitrary.
They exist to define the conflict.
Truth: War IS the oldest profession.
It doesn't make me proud. It's just a fact.
Sadly, more War is on the menu too.
When will it end?
Who Knows?
Plato said "Only the Dead have see the end of War".
True, and the accent of the individual merc does not prove the nationality of the outfit that put him there, not at all.
What a bunch of ignorant dilletantes are comenting on this shit; thanks for your willingness to swim upstream and expose their anti-American pud-thumping stupidity.
Mr.Patriot :
Here's the footage from early March in Donetsk that had the UK Daily Mail asking whether American Blackwater type mercs had been deployed on behalf of Kiev: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/…/Are-Blackwater-active-Ukraine-… http://www.zerohedge.com/…/400-blackwater-mercs-deployed-uk… Germany's Der Spiegel and Bild am Sonntag (check German spelling) later reported that 400 US private military contractors had been deployed to Ukraine's southeast Here's the infamous video of the 'I'm an American citizen guy' getting beaten by militia reportedly filmed in Kharkov back in April with a description: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R23NEPvGgw8 Here's a 'Ukrainian National Guardsman' politely speaking fluent Italian to a group of Italian journalists in late April/early May. Kiev Twitter trolls claimed this was merely a Ukrainian migrant who returned from Italy to do his duty for the homeland. You decide. Polish mercs or advisers purportedly killed in shootdown of IL-76 near Donetsk airport in June already referenced by RI in October, along with formation of Polish-Lithuanian-Ukrainian joint brigade. Shootdown of IL-76 was accompanied by a lot of enraged tweets in NATO circles, one wonders if they knew Polish advisers were on board and were killed when the plane was destroyed with all hands: http://russia-insider.com/…/polish_mercenaries_and_arms_flo… http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28951324 Note that Poland has denied having any troops fighting alongside Kiev forces and has insisted it would punish any Poles fighting as mercenaries for Kiev as this contradicts Polish law banning mercs without government authorization. BBC admitting September 1, 2014 that Poles are fighting in volunteer capacity, while also reporting on foreign volunteers for Kiev's battalions and DNR Vostok Brigade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VXyzA7xL1k 15:55-16:54 video allegedly uploaded by DNR a week ago after capture of Donetsk Airport Polish flag captured by DNR forces at Donetsk International Airport ruins with 'solidarity with Ukraine' written in black marker on the front. Latest evidence bringing story up to date from this weekend in Mariupol: Native English speakers or English speaking Scandinavian non-Slavic mercs caught on tape: https://twitter.com/Sevodnay/status/559055357558149120 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3bf_1422135521
Mr Cocksucker:
I said, " the accent of the individual merc does not prove the nationality of the outfit that put him there, not at all"
Can you fucking read?
I am not questioning that we have some merc forces over there on borrowed Uke dimes representing Western interests. I am saying that this does not prove DIRECT involvement by the CIA, DOD ar any other American alphabet agency.
Shits sake, you probably just cut and pasted from a file with what you think are relevant links to esoteric videos, wtf?
Having John Brennan travel to Ukraine might be a bit different though.
I'm getting really tired of you fuckwit. I lived there; on assignment; and there isn't a Brit. in the UK who could pull off that accent; and when they try they're comical. Just fuck off, okay ?
Accent is clearly from Langley or Quantico USA
I know - I live in the same area
NoVa
Agree, that was no brit accent, that was a US accent. Anyone who doubts it, listen again.
"Outta my face" With emphasis on "face" is very American, and Brits don't even use that expression.
In a modern PMC, multinats work along side eachother for years.
They pick up this "World Accent" after a while.
I still say the guy is a brit.
utter pish
For anyone to even think this guy is British has absolutely no idea! "Outa my face" and that accent!! FFS! That's about as GI Joe as I've heard except for the please. I'll leave it to the Americans to determine which little enclave this prick comes from.
Too right.
He sounds suspiciously like Mark Wahlberg, so I'd guess he's from eastern Massachusetts.
I know, I know. it's maddening. they have to do disinformation spin on this because it's a serious breach.
Fuck off, Cunt. you're really getting tiresome. nobdy believes that shit; especially including you.
Accent is clearly from Langley or Quantico USA
I know - I live in the same area
NoVa
exactly
body language also
Bullshit you fucking liar.
You are speking of Northern Virginia WHERE I FUCKING LIVE and they dont speak like that down here, you moron.
If you are going to lie at lest put a couple of brain cycles into it, eh numbnuts?
dude - my comment was joke / sarcastic. merc on video is likely from northeast.
i live near Chantilly - NoVa
There are plenty of transplants that speak NE english in NOVA.
The Buckeye boys are ones to watch too.
They are surrounding Mariupol. That will flush out some of these polite little men.
In which case, we can look forward to the last helicopter from Mariupol.
Completely wrong. Laughable, really.
Brits don't say "outta my face"
That was no Brit accent, it was an American, clear as day.
I've been all over the US and never heard an American accent like that. At first I thought he was British. Now it sounds Aussie or SA to me.
South African? Wrong!!! Australian? ROFLOL!! Ridiculous!!
It doesn't matter where you've been; you have to be a native speaker, and you have to study the subject. and it is a subject.
Note the words in this video story: All people, absolutely everything, speak only in Russian language! With the exception of course mercenaries.
Even all the official officials from Kiev, speak only in Russian!
But Kiev junta announced earlier that the Russian language will be illegal throughout the territory of Ukraine.
This is called a deliberate provocation of civil war, which made the puppet government in Kiev, on command from Washington.
The accent is upper midwest, Michigan, Wisconsin
Agreed. Have business dealings with people in WI and their accent is quite like the one in the vid.
First 3/4 RESPONSES. GOLDEN RULE IN WAR IS DENIAL and you CUNTS haven't let us DOWN.
Sorry its definitely an American accent
Yes that's a Brit. I listened 3 times before I caught the accent, but it's there.
Listen carefully. I was trained to do the English Accent bit by my english public school girl friend; they can identify your region and social class in the first sentence. He is from the North East power corridor in the USAl; native speaker, educated. period. You're making a fool of yourself. it's completely out of the question that he's any kind of Brit whatsoever; out of the question. period.
I'm from New York. He's not from the NE.
I give up. I guess you're deaf.
Midwestern US.
Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Wisconsin.
Hello me again you are absolutely correct in your analysis.
Probably the most important is the individual:
1) has been living at in the 'power corridor' since college/university age
2) has been working mostly at an office job, literally sitting on his butt at least ½ of his working time
3) has been working mostly in the DC area at least 10 years, otherwise working in a major NE-city like NYC minimum 2-3 years.
4) Mannerisms, way to walk, gear.....CIA and/or State Dept career type dude. Not a Hitman-killer.
5) Hands down the dude is born in the Usa or been living there since early childhood, 3 yrs old up
btw Kudos for all the good answers here
Not even close to a Brit accent.
Definitely American.
You guys are whack. What about the russian news report that said the Boston bomber was killed in prison by the CIA? Is that a credible report too???
I thought American. Who's down voting so rabidly, the Obamas can't sleep?
FORWARD SOVIET!
when mysterious American mercs show up in random videos in greece and spain carrying weapons in camo, it's game on for the euro.
The 'please' thing immediately led me to suspect that he's Canadian! Who else would be so polite under combat-conditions? Hard to prove, but one way or the other, the accent definitely strikes me as North American.
More like midwestern USA. IMHO
Yeah, I was thinking mid-west but toward northeast.
I was also thinking "fuck you Uncle Sham."
The fact that the soldier is hiding his face is pretty telltale too.
Telltale that this is bullshit.
Any operative over there would know better than to answer at all, let alone in English. Really, that's mutherf*cking all the guy had to do: not answer. But somehow it's more believable that a US intelligence operative just couldn't help being polite? This is a false flag.
I sure as hell don't make the assumption that all US operatives are geniuses who never fuck up.
Not like that they don't. And why is the overly complex conspiracy and "false flag" the go to solution rather than the simple and most logical?
He is not a 'US intelligence operative'. He is just a boots on the ground, machine gun weidling, merc. He is more like an active advisor to the group....that is why he spoke up, his adrenaline is pumping and he doesn't care what he says (he probably has an interpretor with him, but he is in the distance). He just wants them gone so he can continue his mission.....
"But somehow it's more believable that a US intelligence operative just couldn't help being polite?"
Seeing as they were clearing munitions from the artilly strike he's more likely a polite bomb disposal guy from Maine.
And NONE of WHICH would PROVE the man to be in an American operation, much less C.I. fucking A.
You conspiracy nutfucks dont get it. The Senate cut the balls off the CIS decades ago. The broader intel community does not get its collective hands dirty any more. It is more likely that they are siphoning black box funds to the Ukrainian government to enable them to hire advisors from western veteran reserves. The actual unit is probably Ukrainian at the top with untraceable funds paying for it all.
No one at Langly acts like those morons in those fucking Bourne movies, lol, that is just Hollyweird bullshit.
NO.
no this guy is from ne
I posted above before reading yours. You are correct, it would sound a bit "off" in Minnesota but not by much..
No. Northeast.
Definitely not a Brit. Sounds American to me, N-E as you said.
What difference does it make?
could be a kiwi for all we know. the accent is kinda hard to place...
WAIT A MINUTE....US ne ACCENT....SAYS "PLEASE"? Damn, the canucks language training isn't working!
LOL, people in the NE don't say "please".
If he were Canadian he would have said something like, " outta my way, eh."
Not NYC either; would have been more like, " Yo, Bitch, move yo ass outta ma way. "
No, Not Texas; that would have been, " Por favor, pardoname. "
Cali, " Hi sweetie, I'm in a rush, could it please wait. " ....and with a soft lisp.
Yes; they do. Specifically from Prep. Schools and Military Academies; to females. It's a characteristic; a tell.
Sounds like a Brit to me. Also, I'm not sure that's a Ukrainian military uniform, but I will take a closer look. Anyway, it's interesting, but no proof at all of western or US, fo rthat matter, "Boots on the ground." He could be a mercenary or part of a protective detail for journalists, etc.
If the guy COULD speak Ukrainian he would have. This indicates he does not. Sounds North East American to me. His "please" is typical for military soldiers trained response to a woman. If it were a man asking the question his response would be different.
Being that I live in the Northeast US (transplant with lots of continental travel besides) I can tell you that is not a local accent, much less American.
I absolutely agree.
Yes; prep school, or military academy, (military high school); there's one living here on the rock with me; wanted me to do some machine work on a rifle; I told him to get lost.
He probably is a merc. If US regulars were on the ground, all hell would be about to break loose and Russia likely would be gearing up for an invasion that would be undeniable.
Hard to tell about the "uniform" worn by the native English speaker. It is NOT a standard pre-war Ukrainian uniform, but the Ukrainians are now wearing all sorts of "uniforms." Also, there are no recognizable insignia (nation, unit, or rank). It does not mean they are not there, they just are not recognizable on the video. The weapon carried was also not recognizable, though I suspect any one operating in the area would have an AKM or an AK-74. Looking at the magazines in his vest, it looks like 5.56 mags, not 7.62.
Anyway, interesting, but not conclusive at all. The headline is certainly misleading. It is likely the reporter captured a security contractor on video, but it is possible she captured a special operator, which would be extraordinary. I just don't know what a SPECOPS guy would be doing running around at the site of a shelling in a public place. And if so, he would stay REAL far away from any camera. He certainly would not walk right by one and speak to it. He would turn around and walk away from it - run if necessary. I therefore lean to contractor on security detail for someone. Notice the reporter had her own armed security.
This is my honest appraisal - let the down arrows and insults fly.
Kalash not 5.56
5.45x39
This is the first smart-phone war! Cameras are in the faces of everyone, everywhere. These assholes will be flushed out wherever they are in very short time with this technology everywhere.
Endless photo and video from the NovoRossiya side here https://twitter.com/Steiner1776
Foreign mercenary from #Mariupol most likely identified.British national Leon Swampy via @marcelsardo
I'll never believe British, but whoever this guy is, he'll be tracked down real quickly now this is out there
Dup
Yes, he could also be a merc from America (Blackwater/Xe), paid for by the Ukrainian govt., which, in turn, got the money from Washington. Plausible deniability. He could also be an ethnic (western) Ukrainian by decent, but born in N. America, volunteering to help his kin.
Obviously, you've never been to England; I have. You've been in Germany too long. It's a North-East corridor, US accent. educated. "well spoken" as our british cousins say; not a grunt, an operator.
No question about it, an operator from the DC area up to Connneticut. Mannerisms say he's not a professional hitman from Blackwater. More like a spook-abc agency.
Good Call btw me again.
Thanks; usually I just get shit on; I have an unfair advantage.
I live in the NE corridor. That isn't a local accent.
And here we have, what ? or who ? He copies my def. "NE corriddor:"; and then denies it; everybody who knows anything about the language is supporting the thesis but little buddy here; who signs your paycheck, little buddy ?
you stupid cunt there is no 'NE Corridor' accent and anyone that lives here would know that. There are variations of accents along the NE corridor that run the full gamut of Maryland backwoods southern to Philly to New Yahk to Boston to Maine.
You are an ignorant peiece of shyte and a liar.
NE Corridor? Sounds Midwestern to me. Flat, no accent.
Hes here on this clip too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsfGH8JXprE&feature=youtu.be&t=14m18s
http://s17.postimg.org/tuggjdri7/image.jpg
better shot of his face
Haus-Targaryen, I didn't think he sounded American, my initial response was it was a New Zealand accent.
You're either joking or you're an idiot. We don't really need more dis-informatiion here; thanks anyway.
Another one with no idea whatsoever!
You;ve been living in Germany too long; there's nothing unique about it; it's northeast corridor, USA / period.
Americans don't say please. British/Australian/New Zealand.
If it was a US merc they would have said motherfucker or douchebag... not please.
Thanks for the compliment ( on behalf of all Poms, Aussies & Kiwis), but I'm sorry, hes not one of us.
Canadians also say 'please'. And Canada is said to contain a sizable western Ukrainian diaspora that fled Europe after WW2. It's a possibility, at any rate.
Not British....! they don't say outa or pliz
Absolutely agree. It is english with an English accent.