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"Out Of My Face Please" - Why Are US Soldiers In Mariupol?

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Amid the devastation of yesterday's Mariupol artillery strikes which killed or wounded dozens, which was promptly blamed by both sides on the "adversary" - and has been proclaimed by both 'sides' (more on that later) as more violent than before the truce - an 'odd' clip has emerged that appears to provide all the 'proof' a US intelligence officer would need to surmise that US military boots are on the ground in Ukraine. As the following clip shows, a Ukrainian journalist approaches what she thinks is a Ukrainian soldier (since he is wearing a Ukrainian military uniform and is carrying an AK) and asked him as they run through the battlezone, "tell me, what happened here?" His response, which requires no translation, speaks for itself.

Forward to 2:36 for the 'Ukrainian' soldier's response:

Here is a clip which focuses just on the exchange in question:

With daily reportage of the 'invasion' of Russian military forces into Ukraine territory (admittedly unconfirmed by NATO), this clip raises many questions about American involvement in the ongoing conflict - most of all, was the US involved in the "staging" the Mariupol massacre, and if so it is clear who should be blamed (and isolated).

Of course, US troops, or at least mercs, on the ground, should not be a total surprise, since just 2 months ago, we discussed the hacked US documents that revealed the extent of undisclosed US "lethal aid" being given to the Ukraine army. What was apparently left unleaked was the part of the US aid also includes US-speaking soldiers. The only question is whether US taxpayers are paying their wages.

 

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Sun, 01/25/2015 - 19:57 | 5704030 Charming Anarchist
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Obvious editing error in the title. 

Should be:  Why are Western Soldiers in Mariupol hiding their faces? and then all of the shills can go home.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 19:59 | 5704036 One World Mafia
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The tools who deny he's American are really outing themselves.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 20:52 | 5704252 me again
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Correct.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 19:59 | 5704039 jusman
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What if he was an American of Ukranian descent that went to help his ancestors (and maybe relatives) fight the war?

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 20:47 | 5704236 One World Mafia
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Unlikely but even if so he would probably know the language if he were that close to them.  The Ukranian people are not the ones who want the war.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 20:51 | 5704248 me again
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Did youi ever hear Steven Segall; the movie guy ? In conversation. He's a Uk. and that's as good as it gets; and it ain't great; and it ain't this guy. it won't fly, dude. it will not fly. There isn't   a  Uk in the UNS who sounds like that.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:53 | 5704447 me again
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T hey don't want to fight the war; they're being dragged out of their houses at night by military patrols; that's the "draft". they don't want anything to do with it; it's an American Operation; which is now rotting from the head down, like the proverbial fish.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 20:17 | 5704113 zipit
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That clip is... interesting whether it is genuine or not or staged (or other!).

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 20:22 | 5704135 zipit
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Wouldn't you think that any US boots on the ground there would have been training in at least a handful of phrases in Ukranian or something.  Or at least to keep their mouths shut, especially when on camer aand mic?  And why would he have walked so close to someone talking into a big ass mic and a guy filiming her with a video camera.  Could he have not crossed the street or otherwise avoided or at least kept his moth shut and communited with body language only, as he did.  Highly suspicious.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:56 | 5704457 me again
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And what oh tactical genious are you suspicious of; specifically; be as specific as possible. What exactly do you 'suspect"; based on the fact that he does not speak Uk; (which is notoriously difficlult to learn).

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 04:54 | 5705286 zipit
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That someone wants you to believe US soldiers are on the ground when, in fact, they may not be.  I'm not judgeing either way.  I really have know idea.  It's the fog of war and misinformation coming from all sides.  Good to be question.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 20:18 | 5704121 Rusputin
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US admitted spending $5bn on Ukrainian regime change... What did you think they spent it on, cookies at Maidan?

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 20:53 | 5704256 me again
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They admitted funding for Lethal Weapons; Lethal Weapons, dude; for the :freedom fighters".  A CIA/SAD team is a lethal weapon.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 20:42 | 5704223 Manipuflation
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That sounded very American to me but there can be an explanation as to why.  It has been a while since the Soviet Union collapsed and there was a wave of immigration into the U.S..  Some of them have been to been going to check on family and do speak American English as well as their native language which in this case was Russian.  "Pashlee", not sure about the spelling on that, but I hear it 20 times a day is a command to "Come here" or "let's go".  

More than likely you have guy who is probably a U.S., Canadian or British citizen who went back to Ukraine to check on relatives.  We have a friend a who did exactly that and there was a woman involved but he is back in the U.S. now with her.  Hell, we thought he died over there.  You would never know that my daughter is fluent in Russian language if you talked to her but it is not her pimary language and she opts to English first.  When she goes to Russia, native Russians know she is an American because there she has an American accent on her Russian language.  

Our young son is different in that he only speaks Russian.  He knows English and can speak it but his primary language is Russian and he has no American accent in Russia.  Russians think he a Russian child but he is not, he's an American.;-)  The point is that it is really hard to draw conclusions about that video clip.  I have even mastered some Russian phrases with the correct intonation and syllable stress that could make me sound like a Russian when I am not.  It is something to consider.       

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 20:56 | 5704263 me again
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Dude; you are deluded. This man is a native speaking American from the American north East Power Corridor; probably from a prep school or military academy; and he was recruited. End Story.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:35 | 5704393 Bangalore Torpedo
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I'll give you  this: the voice over is of a native speaking American from the American north East Power Corridor.  End Story Mr. Gullible.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 20:43 | 5704230 Bumbu Sauce
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I bet you conspiracy nut's snack expenses are going thru the roof.

Long Cheetos.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:01 | 5704262 Lumberjack
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Stay tuned.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:09 | 5704296 ghostofgo
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Nothing to do with the politics of the situation.  It's just obviously not an American accent.  It is some kind of British or Commonwealth accent.  Perhaps Australian?  Just definitely not American.  An American says "feis", while this guy says more like "fais".  Basically, the "a" is more closed than it would be for an American. 

Extermely odd that so many people show up today on ZH adamant that he couldn't be British or Australian.  What difference would it make if he were?

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:14 | 5704311 Moccasin
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I disagree with you. I think that is a US accent, Wisconsin, UP Michigan. Not Canadian or Brit. Definently US. Also consider that the guy in question likely speaks Ukrainian and Russian.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:25 | 5704351 ghostofgo
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Likely speaks Ukrainian or Russian? 

You're just completely discrediting yourself.  How much do they pay you for that shill job?  Must be great to make that much money given that you are so fucking stupid.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:41 | 5704411 Moccasin
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Why assume he would not speak Ukrainian or Russian when he is working in the Ukraine? Is it safe to assume he doesn't speak Ukrainian while working in the Ukraine and that everyone he works with speaks english well enough in the Ukraine for him to do his job? Then you are a total asshole, suggesting I am looking for 'credit'. Get the fuck over yourself, this is ZH, a chat thread! Then you accuse me of being stupid, speaking of discrediting, you did yourself no favour there. While you are at it, kindly, fuck you and yours. Have a great day. :-)

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:49 | 5704435 ghostofgo
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You think Nuland's employees speak Ukrainian?  Really?  You think they are using the Ukrainian Rosetta Stone?  lol.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:01 | 5704477 me again
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I wonder how some of these people tie their shoes in the morning; maybe they just wear slippers all day.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:16 | 5704553 Moccasin
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Yeah, I do think some state department employees who work on Ukrainian issues do speak Ukrainian, so, yes Nuland has employees who do speak Ukrainian. The individual soldier in the video is not the state department and that might even be more of a reason to know the local language. You seem intent on trolling me and being an asshole along with the other half wit that commented in your favor. You seem to think you have something to gain by discrediting me by being an asshole, you are hapless and it has backfired on you. I don't care and I espically don't give a shit about people who are discussion thread trolls. It is funny to me to imagine the state department not having staff who do speak Ukrainian and Russian. Lastly, the english speaking soldier in the vidoe who was working in the Ukraine would have a need to speak Ukrainian. So let you ad-hominem attacks fly, pillory me for thinking, thinking  and exchanging ideas must be something foreign in your world, afterall who would want to share an opinion with an asshole like you, where those who share an opinion with you are likely to be called names. Crimea a river.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 23:49 | 5704879 Blano
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I'll concede the possibility he might be an East Coast type, but I say the same thing: upper Midwest: Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Indiana. Maybe upstate New York.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:59 | 5704473 me again
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meaningless twaddling. not worth replying to.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:18 | 5704554 sheikurbootie
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Probably not 5th Group.  The SF Groups all have areas of responsibility.  5th Group covers SE/SW Asia area or at least traditionally covered that area.  For example, 7th Group covers Central and South America, 10th Group covers Europe based out of Ft Carson CO.

The areas are based on Group language skills. 

The accent is no way Tennessean.  The diction is all wrong.  In other words, they don't use that phrase. 

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:37 | 5704634 palmereldritch
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These guys are from all over.  Not saying he was a local Tennessean but the vibe was definitely in that neighbourhood.  Maybe NC.

If not the 5th out of the USA directly then perhaps the 10th out of NATO/Germany given this is likely a NATO Op logistically?  But I thought they were Africacom now.  Probably a collection of NATO SpecOps....she just happened to profile a dude with a Mid-Atlantic NA accent.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 23:21 | 5704789 sheikurbootie
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I've travelled so much that I have a ear for accents.  The military does tend to cause a blending of accents, but when someone speaks "off the cuff" in a hurry a "ting" on dialect can come out.  I'm hearing a rapid speech pattern on the video, like upstate NY or North East area.  That could be why some here are confusing it with UK or Canada. VA/NC accent can be similar, but just not that fast.   I'm 100% convinced it's an American accent.

I surprised an Aussie here in the States last year.  Everyone at the table thought he was from the UK, I asked what town near Perth Australia he was from.  He couldn't believe someone picked up on his accent to that level.  I have been fooled by someone from Minnesota that I thought was from Canada. 

10th Group guys go everywhere in Europe and elsewhere all the time.  Our subject possibly speaks Russian fluently and definitely speaks enough to pass muster.  SF guys are thought of as killers, but everyone single one that I worked with or have met are really super smart.  Several were PA's and skilled enough to be MD's.  Part of their main training course was to keep a real wounded pig alive while they were moving for hours or days.  The SF PA's are the reason the program went nation wide.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 23:33 | 5704822 palmereldritch
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Nice data set.  Thanks for the info.  Too bad all that talent is not being directed towards the real enemy in defense of liberty.  If they were they would be standing down.

 

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:23 | 5704346 ghostofgo
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Well, judging by the gang of shills who have shown up here claiming to be able to place it not just as American but also claiming to be able to place it in some particular place in the US, the British or the Australians must be very worried about this going viral in the UK or Australia. 

It's clearly not an American accent.  It pretty clearly is some kind of British or Commonwealth accent.

Again, judging by the huge number of shills who are self proclaimed experts on American phonology and regional varaints thereof, the chances that the clip is actually real have increased significantly.

The shills have driven this thread to 700 posts on a Sunday no less.  That is the most interesting thing of all.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:33 | 5704378 LongOfTooth
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Clearly not an American accent?  Clearly?

 

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:34 | 5704384 ghostofgo
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Yeah, clearly.  You gotta get out more junior.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:37 | 5704399 ghostofgo
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And the fact that it is already lunch time Monday in Australia indicates that there is a good chance that a lot of shills are Australian. 

700 comments on a Sunday night? 

NO!

700 comments on a Monday in Australia!

 

Do you come from the land down under? 

Do you blow Ukraine asunder?

Is your shill head fill of dunder?

You better take, you better take cover...

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:06 | 5704493 me again
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I'm 71 little buddy; got my very own 7.62 hole in my tummy; and I got out A LOT.  And you are fulll of shit.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:34 | 5704358 FIAT CON
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I live west coast Canada, He sounds very Canadain to me, polite like one as well. Being out of breath makes the "out " word a little different.

Not British or Aussie.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:38 | 5704619 Charming Anarchist
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Bullshit.  I live on the other end of the continent.  I have driven across, east west north south, every highway in this country. 

 

Anybody who believes with 100% certainty this person (any person, for that matter) is from <INSERT WHATEVER PART YOU WANT>-Canada is an idiot or a liar with a vested interest.  I am not one to expect patriotism but if there is a patriotic streak in your blood, then you need to get out more.

 

There are parts of this fine country where the people talk so funny that you can drop them in Ireland and they would fit right in. I do not live there.  However, an hour's drive from where I live is a city with quarter million people and they talk like the Irish too.  This phenomenon is but 1 tiny fraction of this country.  There is more.  You can hear every single accent you want in Canada if you care to listen.   We may have been a former penal colony too but we are not inbred. 

 

<<Not British or Aussie.>>

I know lots of them in Canada.  You need to get out more. 

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:34 | 5704392 kareninca
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African American from New England.  He could have grown up in any of a number of towns in CT.

I've only gotten to page three of the comments, but no-one has mentioned the subtle African American aspect of the guy's accent.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:35 | 5704394 TulsaTime
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Mercenaries are eveywhere, and I don't think for an instant that any 'operator' would be stupid enough to respond to the press. So he's probably a sub working for security contractor. No doubt that is one more line our idiot government has crossed in the genius project plan to remove Ukraine from the Russian sphere of influence. BRILLIANCE!  Is the next chapter in the destabilization polka mass riots in Mexico with Spetznatz counselors? 

I wonder if there will be a low level tacticle exchange before it gets serious?

 

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:41 | 5704408 Bangalore Torpedo
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"...and I don't think for an instant that any 'operator' would be stupid enough to respond to the press..."

And there you have it, a 5 star and 100^^^ response to what every conspiracy nut and "operator wannabe" has completely missed out on.

This character in the video is NOT a US special operator as he lacks the discipline of SILENCE.  So one of a few possibilities: 1) a hired gun merc/contractor or 2) a voiced over hoax.

Bravo Tulsa!

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:11 | 5704521 me again
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Oh year, you know all about it. fuck you buthole..

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 00:22 | 5704697 palmereldritch
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LISTEN: You assumed he knew he was being recorded before he spoke.  When he realized the situation he covered his face.  Why would he speak and then cover his face if such a scenario precludes a Non-PMC?

[EDIT] It looks like in retrospect that his dialogue and the blocking of his image was synchronous.  Still...the history of PMC operators in the Iraq invasion who cared naught about their identity and actions being recorded was well established.

Please advise why such a PMC operator in this situation would be so shy?

Thanks in advance.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:43 | 5704415 LongOfTooth
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You don't suppose there are pople here to blow smoke up our rears do you?  

 

Naaaa I didn't think so...

 

I mean who would lie to us?

 

How the US Propaganda System Works

https://consortiumnews.com/2014/05/09/how-the-us-propaganda-system-works/

 

US Propaganda:  How Corporate America Manipulates the American PUblic Into Unwitting Support for Corporate Fascism

http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-propaganda-how-corporate-america-manipulates-the-american-public-into-unwitting-support-for-corporate-fascism/5408445

 

The Worst Cases Of Government Propaganda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loVqqfJgGh4

 

Government Propaganda Then & Now

http://www.theburningplatform.com/2014/12/06/government-propaganda-then-now/

 

Government propaganda and the enslavement of humanity

http://rinf.com/alt-news/editorials/government-propaganda-enslavement-humanity/ .

 

It it now legal to manufacture lies by the government to the public

http://debateneutral.com/now-legal-manufacture-lies-government-public/

 

NDAA Allows US Government to Use Propaganda Against Americans

http://beforeitsnews.com/terrorism/2014/06/ndaa-allows-us-government-to-use-propaganda-against-americans-2449318.html

 

 

 

 

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:09 | 5704515 me again
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It's an immportant breech in the story line; and they've got every one on their e-mail list on here to talk shit about British Accents, and S. A. accents, (meaning south African, which is truly hilarious); they pulled out all the spin-disinformation stops; that ought to tell you something.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 01:15 | 5705076 phaedrus1952
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me again, that is correct.  This video has gone viral. Several sites, some not even politiclly oriented, are talking about this.

Once again, as someone who was born and raised in New York city, that is clearly a NY city area accent.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 02:00 | 5705132 Troy Ounce
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Whys is a SA accent hilarious?

The guy said: "ja, ja fine fine in the beginning. This is 100% SA.

SA Mercenaries are all over the globe fighting for money.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:46 | 5704426 Unstable Condition
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Nice click bait ZH.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:47 | 5704428 IndyPat
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Paramus, New Jersey.

Bet my right nut on it. Had a boss from there. Sounds exactly like him.
Yankee prick that he most certainly was.

Anyway, some of these assholes are going to be captured very soon. Hope they get the beating of a lifetime.
The rebels have been pretty decent to the captured Ukrs so far, however..I wouldn't count on the same treatment for these low lifes.

These guys represent every stroke of the shit that's been stirred up in Ukraine. They are criminals. Brace em hard.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:53 | 5704443 ghostofgo
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Paramus?

Yankee prick?  Yankee prick? 

lol.  You gotta get your facts straight.  The only people who say "Yankee" are pissed off Latin Americans and baseball fans.

Oh, somebody please supply the shills with better resources.  They are embarassing themselves with their feigned knowledge of things American. 

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:02 | 5704480 IndyPat
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Hey dildo.

Look up Mason-Dixon Line.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:02 | 5704481 The Blank Stare
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Boy are you dumb.  3 year member and you're calling him/her a shill? Go back to yahoo. Brits still use "yank/yankee" all the time.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:05 | 5704497 ghostofgo
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Yank sometimes.  Yankee nope.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:15 | 5704522 The Blank Stare
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Depends on the person and the context I guess. My friend Mr. Paddington often calls me a "dumb Yankee"

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:04 | 5704490 The Blank Stare
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P.S.

 

Latin Americans don't say Yankee, they say Gringo

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:07 | 5704501 ghostofgo
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Yankee go home? 

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:07 | 5704504 IndyPat
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You are the one that needs to get his shilling game in line.

You definately weren't born or have ever been in the American south for more than 3 seconds.

Yankees are northerners and I'm surrounded by them even in Hoosierland.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 23:29 | 5704546 The Blank Stare
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delete

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:20 | 5704561 ghostofgo
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Pat, a lot of your little persona is plausible.  But saying you would bet your fucking nut that he is from Paramus fucking New Jersey is so fucking stupid, that it marks you as a shill.  Sorry, try again.  Perhaps log off and log into one of your other accounts. 

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:43 | 5704657 IndyPat
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Look....
I was born and raised in Durham, NC.

Take last Friday, in the evening commute, I FUCKING GARANTEE YOU every single local left there, God help them, screamed "die, you fucking Yankee scum" 37 times before they got home. They've been doing this since exactly a billion Yankee pricks came in search of cheaper property and lower taxes, and brought the exact opposite with them. They think, mumble or scream this 754 times, every single day for 645 times that many reasons.
That's what a fucking Yankee does and everyone in the south knows it.
If it's good and you liked it, a yankee beak from New York or New Jersey shit all over it or is about to when he finds out.
Brits call everyone over here Yanks, because they...I don't know why they do it...and who cares becuase they are pedophiles anyway.
You are a troll. You've never been to the US.
You're out of you element. You have no reference here.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 23:33 | 5704830 The Blank Stare
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well said.  From a Yank lol

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 23:49 | 5704878 IndyPat
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No problem.
Move down south and kick 10 of that kind out. They'll love you for it.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 09:17 | 5705618 Leraconteur
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For you non-Americans, the tone of the above reply (Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:43 | 5704657) is a Regional USA issue, from the USA Civil War of 154+ years ago. The South lost, and still hold a grudge.

Those in The South still use racist derogatory language to refer to those from The North of the USA.

Yankee Beak

Damn Yankees

Fucking Yankee

This just confirms to the even-minded that Southern Americans are still ignorant racists, and have a childish and petulant chip on their shoulders over a lost war 154+ years ago. If they did not they would not use racist language to refer to those from the USA North.

It is a regional personality weakness that they have.

Let's not derail the thread, Indy. I know as much about that conflict as you think you do, and I simply disagree with your conclusions and all of your arguments will fail in any discussion with me.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 04:18 | 5705267 PiratePiggy
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Paramus? No way. You're off by about 7 miles!

The correct answer is Bogota.  Ask him to say Bogata and you will know whether he is from New Jersey.  lol

 

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:50 | 5704442 Paracelsus
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I recall a story about the Brits capturing UK mercs in the Falklands conflict.They never made it to the POW cage....

Kinda gives ya the shits people fighting for pay,trying to kill you.Not much Geneva convention on that....

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:53 | 5704453 ghostofgo
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If the video is real, then the most likely explanation is that he is an Australian merc or special op on Nuland's payroll.  The fact that all the shills are here on Sunday night tilts it towards Australian special op.  Not sure if the mercs have shill operation back offices.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:57 | 5704468 Dien Bien Poo
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that is NOT an Aussie accent.

 

 

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:05 | 5704489 ghostofgo
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Yeah, I don't know for sure.  Except that it is Commonwealth. 

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 01:31 | 5705097 phaedrus1952
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ghost, let it go. You guys tried to obfuscate, distract, woefully misdirect what will sure to have reprecussions worldwide.

 The operator is obviously American and the only people apt to be convinced otherwise by you and your fellow shills are not reading this on ZH. They are reading about Kim's ass or the upcoming ball game.

The tide is turning ... no putting the genie back in the bottle with the internet.  (Thank you, Algore)

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 01:02 | 5709445 PhilofOz
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FFS!!  That accent is not from any Commonwealth country (exclude Canada because I still have not learnt to differentiate that from many NE US accents). I'll give you 200/1 that he is an Aussie, and 33/1 he is from South Africa, Britain or New Zealand. 

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:57 | 5704469 Dien Bien Poo
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that is NOT an Aussie accent.

 

 

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 21:54 | 5704455 moonstears
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In late 1939 Hitler's SS raided a popular radio station in Germany, near Poland. Germans posing as Polish nationals smacked around the radio hosts, then in Polish language announced that they controlled the station. Within 48 hrs Hitler used this to declare war on Poland. True story. just sayin'.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:00 | 5704474 ghostofgo
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Certainly possible that it is dubbed.  Guy is covering his face and we never get a clear video of him.  1/3 chance or more that it is fake.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 00:30 | 5704975 Rock On Roger
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Good thing they got all that shaking timed right.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:00 | 5704478 Seize Mars
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First, he has a Kalashnikov strapped to his back. Second, he is holding a 223 in his right hand. Third, he has the fucking 223 magpuls on his vest. His accent is American, stop arguing over it. "Get oudda my face" sounds like Brooklyn / Queens to me but I'm not here to argue the specifics of that. I'm surprised that nobody has really brought up that he is a possible NYC / Mossad dual citizen with American gear (hence the NYC accent). The Colt 223 is standard Israeli gear.

Whatever. I'm over it.

 

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:08 | 5704509 ghostofgo
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You left out the "please".  Is that Bronx? 

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:06 | 5704510 ghostofgo
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You left out the "please".  Is that Bronx? 

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:08 | 5704512 ghostofgo
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Oh, and we'll argue about whatever we want.  Accent not American.  You get over it shill boy.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:11 | 5704519 Seize Mars
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ghostofgo

Shill boy? Me? I'm a shill for...what, exactly?

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:14 | 5704541 ghostofgo
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SHILL FOR: Not wanting anybody focussing on Australian or British mercenaries/special ops. 

You are so certain he's American.

The thread is filled with people certain he's an American.  Yet they are equally certain that he is from NY, or Wisconsin, or DC area.  lol.

Why are you trying to shut people up on ZH?   Shill behavior.  Just say what you want and move on.  But no, you're going to sit their and tell people 700 comments in to stop arguing.  Don't you see how retarded you look?  ZH regulars are not that retarded.  Shills are. 

Just sayin...

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:20 | 5704565 Seize Mars
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ghostofgo

Ok, ok - look. I'm over it, I hope you sit back, take a deep breath and relax a little. There. Better? BTW I don't think the word "shill" as you use it means what you think it means. Anyways if I was standing right next to you I would give you a handjob, just so you know I want to be friends. Ok?

Peace. Handjobs.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:21 | 5704571 ghostofgo
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lol.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:21 | 5704569 me again
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The thread is filled with people who are certain he is an American, because he is an American ! AND YOU'RE A FUCKING DOUCHE BAG.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:23 | 5704575 The Blank Stare
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Shut the fuck up and stop calling everyone a shill. It's obvious with the replacement of the "t" to a "d" (out of) to (ou-da) that it's an american phonological reference.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:27 | 5704597 ghostofgo
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1) He says "t" and not "d".  Indeed, he does it twice.  Glad you mention that.  Further evidence he is not American.

2) You shut the fuck up.  Shill!

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:29 | 5704604 The Blank Stare
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You're just lonely, I understand.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:50 | 5704680 ghostofgo
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No, you're the one who is lonely.  After all, it must suck not being able to tell your friends and family that you shill it up all day on the internets. 

Me?  I'm just procrastinating.  But got sucked in by an army of shills swearing the accent is American when it ain't. 

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 23:00 | 5704719 The Blank Stare
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"internets"?

 

Busted!!

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:19 | 5704555 me again
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You fucking douche bag. (intended for ghostforgo;).

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:20 | 5704566 ghostofgo
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You are quite the wit.  At least you think you are.  "me again"?  Is that a little inside joke from a guy with multiple accounts?

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 07:49 | 5705420 Moe Howard
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I brought it up.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:05 | 5704500 10mm
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Well, he's not from Philly. I would of heard "Hey Yo, Get that fuckin thing outta my face.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:15 | 5704550 5e0V2a3
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Who's got Vlad's suicide watch tonight?

Be careful, he likes to hide things he can hurt himself with under the mattress.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 00:24 | 5704963 Rock On Roger
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Well, would you look at that?

 

It's an amerikunt parrot!

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:30 | 5704596 5e0V2a3
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Vlad's asking for some Western Union money orders so he can fund a difficult year he's having.

In appreciation, he's going to give y'all a souvenir ruble featuring his likeness on the obverse side and a Zero Hedger being judo-flipped by him on the reverse.

Donators ponying up for at least $1K will receive their very own in-person judo-flip in Moscow and expedited citizenship processing.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:38 | 5704630 The Blank Stare
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Too bad the gas piplelines only run south from Russia which is, by the way, keeping Europe warm this winter, in case you didn't know.  

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 00:23 | 5704960 Rock On Roger
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There is no better argument than shoot the messager.

 

Throw in a couple argumentum ad hominem and you'll have it made!

 

You'll out-wit everyone.

 

 

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:34 | 5704616 cherry picker
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It really don't matter does it?  Whoever is over there with a gun and doesn't live there shouldn't be there.

And for those that live there trying to kill each other, there is no excuse for that either.

All of you got conned.  Is and was it worth it?  Ask your dead loved ones.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:37 | 5704636 rsnoble
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Big surprise here.  The reach of Mordor is everywhere.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:40 | 5704641 Kina
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Certainly not Australian or UK accent...sound to us Aussies very much a US accent.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:48 | 5704670 ghostofgo
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Only definitely not a US accent.  I agree it doesn't sound like a strong Australian or British accent.  Could easily be an Australian who has spent a lot of time outside Australia.  The person did not spend his formative years in US.  That's a fact.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:50 | 5704685 The Blank Stare
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Do you always vote yourself up? You're looking more and more like a loser

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 00:41 | 5705002 IridiumRebel
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Here for 27 weeks and change. Troll. Anyone who thinks that's an Aussie accent is deaf or dumb. But that's the point. Let's focus on an accent and not the fact a Westerner is carrying an AK for Ukr when we should have no such people there.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 08:06 | 5705468 Ginsengbull
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How do "we" have him there?

 

If he were one of ours, he would have an AR-15, and the foresight to smash the reporters camera.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 22:56 | 5704709 IndyPat
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If only you spent your formative first five seconds dripping out of your mothers snatch and dried on the concrete.
Thats not a fact, but it is a shame it weren't so. Missed your second of glory, troll boy.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 23:22 | 5704786 Prober
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What a SHOCKING revelation that western countries have agents in Ukraine !

I'l bet that there are no Russian military or agents in Ukraine. Vlad & the Kremlin team are so so so so much more moral and believable.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 23:27 | 5704806 The Blank Stare
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Nobody really doubts that. It is their next door neighbor. You don't see Russian troops in Mexico. Dumbass

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 00:02 | 5704917 Wild E Coyote
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Why be nice. Just say it.

Anal Prober forgot to probe his own dumbass and is shitting on other's lawn. 

 

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 04:44 | 5705281 Prober
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Captivatingly brilliant response. This illustrates why you are a lifelong failure.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 04:49 | 5705282 Prober
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The Russians living in Ukraine went there under FORCE OF ARMS during the Tzarist and Soviet regimes. If the aliens in a country dislike living in that country, then those aliens should LEAVE and return to their own country, and if the aliens do not leave or they start a war to claim part of other people's country as their own, then the aliens should all be killed - Along with all of their supporters.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 23:11 | 5709123 The Blank Stare
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It's a valid point, but very unrealistic. Only the first generation of emigrants can be callled aliens. After that, they're citizens.

Sun, 01/25/2015 - 23:55 | 5704898 IndyPat
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I suppose if you want to call the Russians that live there "agents" that's your business. If I lived there and was a Russian, I'd do the exact same thing. Sort of a survival measure. Crazy, I know, right?

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 00:03 | 5704918 radish-like
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The interviewee is tense/under pressure; he doesn't want to be photographed; he's not well trained enough to keep his mouth shut; he repeats his 'request', the second time with a please, which is close to pleading; he sounds American to me; the volume of response here and the deluge of shills indicates that a big nerve has been hit.

So what everyone knows - that the Hegemon wannabee has sent armed and dangerous people to the Ukraine - has been given audio plausibility, no matter how its spun....

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 01:21 | 5705082 ghostofgo
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Yeah, but the shills all agree with you.  That's the problem. 

If there is a deluge, who are they giving their up arrows to? 

They're giving them to you!

Nice try shill boy.  Once again, the low intelligence of shills is demonstrated. 

Busted.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 00:25 | 5704950 KuriousKat
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I would think Ukr has much to lose by not having them there it being  the last peg left after the airport debacle.  Whether this guy is or isn't a gringo is then a moot point. Its obvious someone does not like the idea of only 5k people  dead..countless missing and want to leep it going.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 00:19 | 5704955 cherry picker
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"What's that for Dad?"

"They're for killing people," the father replied, referring to the missiles hanging beneath a wing on a fighter plane.

"Oh," replied his son

They walked for a bit, the boy saw a tank.

"What is that for Dad?"

"That's for killing people too," the father replied.

The boy was quiet for awhile.

"Why Dad?"

"I don't know son."

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 01:59 | 5705130 The Blank Stare
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HUH? "I don't know"?

 

 

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 07:41 | 5705406 HowdyDoody
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It's the sport of Banksters, son.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 08:01 | 5705450 Ginsengbull
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What's that rope for, Dad?

 

What's a screwdriver for, Dad?

 

What's a hammer for, Dad?

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 02:33 | 5705015 Dr. Bonzo
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Almost 100% positive an American contractor working a CIA op. Special Forces A Team would all be DLI language qualified to operate in the region. Contractor teams are slapped together ad hoc from former Spec Ops personnel. Maybe this guy was a Ranger or SEAL... most Spec Ops guys are savvy enough to not commit blunders like this if they've ever operated in theater. If for example a Mideast trained guy was hired for this contract he might have muttered something in Arabic or whatever other language he was proficient in. Spanish... German... anything to not give away he's an American. I'd wager he's an ex-Ranger enlisted dude. Op could be anything. Exfil Mr. ABC... recon this or that nuke site... who knows. It's Christians In Action... could be anything.

Nice going CIA!!!!

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 01:00 | 5705049 BrokusDickusMaximus
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Sounded like that CNN Anotherpour guy to me.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 04:20 | 5705269 PiratePiggy
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It wasn't Don Lemmon - no talk of black holes.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 01:07 | 5705065 Jreb
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Just a crazy question - and maybe someone with more tech savy than me can answer this: But if we can't see this guys face who's to say that was even his real voice? Is it not possible it is somehow dubbed?

 

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 02:03 | 5705135 The Blank Stare
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then why would he cover his face? 

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 11:05 | 5706079 Jreb
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Not overly concerned with the "why" as it is simply speculation (it is common practice for soldiers of all stripes to cover their faces anyways and there are simple psychological explanations for this). More concerned with the "is". His face "is" covered hence you cannot see his lips moving hence you do not know if the words we hear match the movement of his lips or whether he even actually speaks at all. Not sure why the down arrows (whatever flips your switch though) as in why would you believe that anything coming out of that part of the world is as it appears anymore? Do we now believe everything we hear and see on the internet? Of course this is why I asked for someones opinion with more tech savy than myself. A proper analysis of the actual audio itself is what is required. The accent is western - no question - the true question is - does it belong to the man in the fatigues?

 

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 23:17 | 5709146 The Blank Stare
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it is common practice for soldiers of all stripes to cover their faces

 

That's a really dumb comment. People ONLY cover their face for two reasons. 1. they want to remian incognito. 2. Shame.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 01:09 | 5705068 tonyhollow
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Is that your opinion, Freedom 123?

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 01:29 | 5705095 DipshitMiddleCl...
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When will WW3 officially start?

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 02:02 | 5705133 reader2010
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It simply confirms what you have already known - Soros' army is in Ukraine.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 02:08 | 5705142 Heavy
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Bet we see more of this in the future

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 02:29 | 5705166 socalbeach
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Those saying it was a Brit in the video got a lot of downvotes, but this Russian article id's a British mercenary, and the headline wording below suggests the guy saying "outta my face please" was a Brit also. FWIW Saker thinks he was from the UK.

https://z5h64q92x9.net/tr-url/ru-en.en/www.segodnia.ru/news/155501

Identified one of the British mercenaries PMC "lighted" in Mariupol
26.01.2015

Identified one of the mercenaries, "lighted" in Mariupol, Nazi Chris Swampy from the UK.

As you know, a few foreign mercenaries Kiev junta were in the lenses and video cameras of journalists during the shelling of Mariupol. Armed foreigners in camouflage retreated from the field of view of journalists, English demanding not to shoot them in the face.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 02:56 | 5705191 ghostofgo
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Oh shit.  The shills have gone silent.  Probably one shill with 12 accounts. 

I got a zillion downvotes.  But now I got some vindication.  The shills must be steaming!

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 02:27 | 5705170 turtle
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probably dubbed

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 02:36 | 5705173 peggleball
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Could be one of the volunters that has been reported about ever since the beginning of the conflict. No too many it seems but there are some.  I only wish there were larger amounts of western forces there defending ukraine. unfortunately, the reailty is that there aren't.

Zerohedge runs runs to aid the russian propaganda machinery as always.. Making a brigade out of a soldier in reports on govt side, and making single soldiers out of brigades when it comes to the pro-russian.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 02:37 | 5705176 YouThePeople
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Spreading democracy and humanitarism...and Hostess and Little Debbie.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 03:35 | 5705228 John Wilmot
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British, South African? LOL

No, it's clearly Standard American English (maybe a hint of New England).

So, it's an American soldier. Not special forces I would say, since those guys are smart, and this guy was dumb enough to speak English to a Ukrainian TV reporter. So, probably a mercenary.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 03:35 | 5705234 Jack Daniels Esq
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If only the dude was black, jived like Obama

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 04:02 | 5705241 Boogity
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There are most likely some American Bruhs there but they are probably too busy slipping their Mambas into Uke hotties to bother with fighting in a war between a bunch of Crackas. 

We'll know for sure in about 10 - 15 years years when some rather swarthy looking youngsters are joining those goosestepping lily-white Banderists in their torchlight parades.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 03:59 | 5705249 Salsipuedes
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I'm from Gringolandia, I don't know my ass from my elbow, I have no reason to be here other than filthy lucre, I've got the big gun and the macho outfit, I'm running from the scene of a crime and I want YOU out of MY face! What's not to love? Huh...bitch?

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 04:45 | 5705280 U-P-G-R-A-Y-E-D-D
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I am American, lived in various areas of the US and the world.  This accent is American.  The regional dialect is difficult to determine, but is suggestive of someone from the North.  The presence of "please", to me, only indicates that this person comes from a military background.  If I had to pin him with a stereotype - he sounds like an NYC cop.  

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 04:52 | 5705283 dreadnaught
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Get those overpaid welfare recieving bastards/mercs out of the Ukraine- they probably command $1000/hr for doing such dirty work-what we, the average taxpayer should make such wages.  Russia, TAKE OUT those scum!

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 05:17 | 5705298 ObamaCaresHugSquad
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I've seen multiple reports and documentaries of Ukrainian-Americans volunteering for the Ukrainian military, this isn't necessarily proof that the US government has sent advisors etc to Ukraine to fight on the ground.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 07:51 | 5705425 gcjohns1971
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Doubt it.

But...I can say with certainty that there are almost as many 'Koreans' (or at least of Korean descent) in the US today than there are in North Korea.   Stunning.  I know.  But there are only about 24 Million North Koreans.   And the immigrants over the last 60 years have been productive... maybe it is something in the water.  More power to them.  Great people.

I don't think there has been enough time for the Ukrainians in the US to multiply that way.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 05:34 | 5705308 Baby Eating Dingo22
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This is not a  US soldier

It;s that actor from that "House" show

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 05:38 | 5705312 doctaGre
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Most definitely an American accent.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 06:09 | 5705331 Firewood
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This is what happens when you call a....... psychopath

 

Mercan Merc learning to become "a polite US pig" on the rim of fetid empire

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldNWOpxTADg

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