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Russia Slams S&P Downgrade For "Excessive Pessimism"

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Well that didn't take long. Russian Finance Minister Siluanov has responded to S&P's "junk" downgrade of The Russian Federation:

  • *SILUANOV: S&P DOWNGRADE OF RUSSIA SHOWS 'EXCESSIVE PESSIMISM'
  • *SILUANOV: NO REASON TO EXPECT `MASS' DEBT REDEMPTION REQUESTS

Adding in his statement that he "sees no reason to dramatize" the situation, Siluanov adds that the cut should not have any serious effect on Russia's capital markets. We assume by "dramatize," he means - they wil not be 'visiting' the local ratings agencies offices for a chat anytime soon.

 

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Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:04 | 5707557 Deathrips
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9 out of 10 crest paid dentists, recommend crest. The other one was fired.

Free markets are fun...right?

 

RIPS

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:09 | 5707591 Looney
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Plutonium tea, anyone? ;-)

Looney

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:38 | 5707713 Divided States ...
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This Russian downgrade was part of the settlement for S&P downgrading the USA a few years back. Now they are out of the doghouse.

Cant believe countries and the livelihoods of many of their citizens are at the mercy of these Sleazy & Pathetic credit agencies who can be bought out.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:38 | 5707720 walküre
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Russia had announced last week not to pay any attention to US based ratings agencies.

Putin just needs to declare that he doesn't give a shit what some Jews say on Wall Street. That would get things going for starters.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 18:53 | 5708221 wwxx
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The S & P rating agency was prosecuted (by the SEC, NY & Mass. Attorney Generals) & ordered to pay fine of $58m...just last week.  I'm sure Russia expected something like this... deratings by various agencys. http://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21640442-rating-agen...

 

And I think it must be necessary to become derated to junk considering the direction Russia is determined. 

 

wwxx 

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:56 | 5707797 Antifaschistische
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Yah, it's like the "Credit Agencies" in the US.  Hey, you'll never be able to borrow a truckload of money if you don't have a great FICO score!!!

Kiss my ass...what a scam.....note to the world STOP BORROWING SO MUCH DAMN MONEY AND IT WON'T MATTER!!

So, we give Russia one more reason to try and abandon dollar associations....good job!

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 18:19 | 5708091 QQQBall
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and subprime mortgage ports were AAA. The only thing constent re  rating agencies is that the others will follow S&P and downgrade pootin

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 22:35 | 5708981 nuke ISIS now
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Hope this strory is about one of you Russian fucks spouting propaganda here

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/us-announces-charges-york-russian-spy...

 

fuck you

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 22:35 | 5708982 nuke ISIS now
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Hope this strory is about one of you Russian fucks spouting propaganda here

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/us-announces-charges-york-russian-spy...

 

fuck you

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:06 | 5707565 NotApplicable
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S&P must stand for "Socialize and Politicize."

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:13 | 5707607 KnuckleDragger-X
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They do what they are paid to do. Too bad the rating is meaningless since we shut down trade with them.....

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:26 | 5707675 Colonel Klink
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S&P = Shysters and Predators

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:08 | 5707583 TheFourthStooge-ing
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We assume by "dramatize," he means - they will not be 'visiting' the local ratings agencies offices for a chat anytime soon.

Correct. That particular role is reserved for Drama Queen Bama.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:09 | 5707590 Seasmoke
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Excessive Pessimism...... Welcome to Fight Club. 

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:16 | 5707614 KnuckleDragger-X
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If your a true pessimist there's no such thing as excessive pessimism.......

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:13 | 5707599 oddjob
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Is this the same S&P that had Fannie and Freddie paper at AAA before they collapsed?

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:31 | 5707680 ILLILLILLI
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Siluanov should have off-handedly thrown that in there....just for grins and giggles.

 

 

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:14 | 5707603 Richie Cunningham
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Can he not just fine them?...

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:16 | 5707619 orangegeek
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Here's a quarter Putin - go find a working pay phone in Moscow and call someone who gives a flying fuck.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:16 | 5707623 will ling
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vlad sweats nothin', least of all the s&p.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:19 | 5707638 barroter
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I remember S&P: "Of course these tranches are AAA!  We wouldn't rate dogshit investments AAA. You can TRUST us!"

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:21 | 5707643 Mike Honcho
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S&P has to traverse the world because the bankrupt US and the Wall Street sub-prime traders are spotless.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:26 | 5707668 FXD
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I assume all of you Putin fans have already traded their "worthless paper" dollars for "oil-backed" rubles and moved to Russia to work for $400/month which is an average salary here?

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 18:49 | 5708228 Miketheterrible
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You are not Russian, I can tell that.  $400 is not average wage in Russia.  sorry.  So that is where I call your bullshit.

http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?country=Russia

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 00:46 | 5709411 Villageidiot777
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Average vs. median

 

At least when talking about salary in so uneaqual country as Russia.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:29 | 5707671 Soul Glow
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The defense S&P gave for their downgrading was a weakening Russian economy and a lack of financial flexability.  When the world is mired in depression how can S&P single out Russia?  Italy and Japan are fucked and their ratings are higher.  As for flexibility Russia has as its largest trade partner, its neighbor, China - the largest economy in the world (never mind their data when all data lies).

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:37 | 5707709 a common man
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When it gets serious, you have to lie.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 17:13 | 5707868 Quantum Nucleonics
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Funny how FSB Tyler and all of Putin's ZH fluffers are so worked up.  I'd point out that half of Russia's government income is from oil, the price of which has cratered by over half in the last few months, but facts are besides the point with his crowd.

As to China, if you think China will pay above market prices for Russian oil.... [insert hard to translate Chinese proverb here]

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 18:53 | 5708239 Miketheterrible
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This also comes when S&P state that Russia's growth in GDP (yes, growth) is 0.5% yet other countries like Brazil faces decline and has higher value in credit agency. The problem is, lack of access to western credit, which these western agencies will simply downgrade regardless. I am not surprised that this has happened, but already these organizations are considered barred from Russia. So these ratings are pointless. As what Rosneft has said.

“Credit ratings are meaningless in a situation when the international capital markets are closed off to Russian companies,” said a statement from oil and gas giant Rosneft

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:31 | 5707689 me or you
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This is how you know when the regime is running desperate.:

Three Russians charged with spying, one arrested in New York

Accused of  "collecting economic intelligence". It sounds like a big joke.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:47 | 5707760 bid the soldier...
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The one arrested was the CIA plant who's in witness protection in South Beach already.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 17:28 | 5707908 hotrod
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For that matter Hitler was Russian and and was't that girl who hit Nancy Kerrigan's leg a russian skater and dont forget about Pearl Harbor

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 20:49 | 5708629 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Accused of  "collecting economic intelligence". It sounds like a big joke.

Three less viewers in the NYC market? Look for another painful ratings hit for CNBC.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:41 | 5707732 Kaiser Sousa
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so this is how a bitch ass dying empire spends its last days...

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:55 | 5707793 Hulk
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This is like watching those old movies where two trains are going to hit each other head on.Smoke bellowing and closeups of the drive trains, roaring  toward each other at top speed.Sad to watch, ain't it ???

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:59 | 5707815 Kaiser Sousa
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long time in the making...

USSA just cant accept that they r no longer the major player on the scene...

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 17:21 | 5707902 FXD
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Why suffer in the USSA when you can move to Russia! You won’t be making much money here, your standard of living will suck and you’ll most probably die in case you fall seriously ill…But don’t worry! They can’t provide you with all those things brought around by western civilization but they’ll provide you with a bear and balalaika so that you could fight NWO back-to-back with Putin and his billionaire friends! 

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 18:46 | 5708203 Miketheterrible
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Hmm, I take it you don't know much about Russia.  State healthcare and schooling.  When my Cousin got sick, it was all covered and no problem.  And he makes decent money and no mortgage.  He has a nice apartment with a woodburning fireplace and has his flat screen LED, an iPhone and enough money to go on vacations to Greece and other countries.

What do you know about Russia's living standards?  I assume it is nothing, but I am not surprised.  Go read more BBC or CNN.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 19:47 | 5708422 talisman
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S&P really has to kiss ass and toe the line if they intend to survive after downgrading US in August of 2011

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 21:18 | 5708734 kappal_toba_dhu...
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Silly Russians. No one takes USA rating agencies seriousy any more.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 21:17 | 5708735 kappal_toba_dhu...
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Silly Russians. No one takes USA rating agencies seriousy any more.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 23:22 | 5709163 PADRAEG
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It is good to catch up on the news from Putinistas. USSR is still spying on USA, re HFT, now S&P. Putin runs good propaganda on RT, even though he is destroying Russia. He should try to develop a real economy with real jobs, not merely mercenaries to invade Ukraine.

 

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 18:42 | 5713230 Anunnaki
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Crimea River whiner

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 08:05 | 5709886 localizer
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So Russia is junk, what does it make USSA and EU, LMAO! Do these 'ratings' agencies even look at BASIC economic indicators or just follow the diktat from the masters? I mean seriously, this is beyond surreal... 

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 18:43 | 5713237 Anunnaki
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War against Russia has begun in earnest

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