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The Timestamps Begin: "The Impact Of The Blizzard On Employment Will Be Near Zero"

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Just because we enjoy collecting snippets of soundbites and information, especially when the originators of said soundbites do a U-turn a few weeks later, here are the first two "timestamps" regarding the impact of what may be the biggest blizzard (and certainly one of the Top 5) in New York city history.

First, from Stone McCarthy:

I have been getting a few inquiries as to how the impending snowstorm might impact on the January or February employment data.

 

Based on the timing of the storm I suspect the impact on the January employment data will be near zero. Conceivably, the hours worked data could be marginally influenced for those workers that miss some work in the days immediately ahead, but such would only show up for those workers who are paid on a monthly basis.

 

The reference period for the payroll or establishment data is the pay-period that includes the 12th of the month. Most workers are paid on a weekly, biweekly or semi-monthly basis. For these workers the late month snowstorm should be largely irrelevant. But, for the small percentage of workers who are paid monthly there could be some minor impact.

 

For the household survey the reference period is the week (as opposed to pay-period) that bridges the 12th of the month. As such impending storm should have zero impact on the January household data.

 

As for the impact on the February payroll and household employment data we wouldn't expect much of an impact. The storm related dislocations would have to reach well into February to have a noticeable impact on the February data.

Which is great: after all that's what seasonal adjustments are for, right? To adjust for things like the seasons.

And second, from everyone's favorite groundhog nemesis:

Because sometimes it's good to know where one stands, just in case we get a repeat of this:

The best news, of course, is that unlike last year, economists will not use such an unprecedented atmospheric phenomenon as snow in the winter, as justification for a $100 billion haircut to annualized GDP. Right?

 

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Mon, 01/26/2015 - 14:43 | 5707143 db51
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Fat Ass Christy will be wishing he had those pounds he shed back.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 14:52 | 5707162 observer007
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All Airports will be closed

Watch our livestream from Brooklyn Bridge as New York prepares for potentially 'historic' Winter Storm Juno

Widespread power outages and major air traffic disruptions are feared throughout the north-east of the US as a massive winter storm that could dump three feet of snow bears down on the region.

All the LATEST on JUNO:

http://tersee.com/#!q=juno&t=text

 

 

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 14:59 | 5707214 kliguy38
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CNBS actually talked about your "emergency kit" and having batteries in it........BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 15:01 | 5707228 Alea Iactaest
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Damn preppers. They're gonna ruin us all!

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 15:54 | 5707336 Pool Shark
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Snow in New York??? In the winter???

Who'd a thunk it?

Unless it's a SHARKNADO!, don't waste my time...

 

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:22 | 5707655 ZeroPoint
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Being a prepper puts you on a DHS watch list.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 15:04 | 5707238 SheepDog-One
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CNBS 'emergency kit' recommended contents-
1 charged dildo, extra large with extra batteries.
1 iPhone to tweet everyone with extra flash charger.
1 bottle vodka.
1 set knee pads in case Obungler or a central bankster is encountered.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 15:22 | 5707333 Temporalist
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I thought all I needed was a pair of scissors and to hide under a desk.  That's where I've been since they gave that advice.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 15:30 | 5707367 optimator
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Don't knock it.  My wife went out and bought more batteries and another lantern yesterday.  And we've got a generator and 50 gallons of gas!

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:03 | 5707550 rogerrabbithole
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Don't forget the Fleshlights!

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 15:07 | 5707252 joego1
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Terrorists!

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 15:13 | 5707287 Ignatius
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Fuck NY.

And fuck all this attention to the effect of a g'damn snow storm.

And, and fuck terrorists, real or imagined.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:23 | 5707654 MsCreant
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Or manufactured.

And, and, fuck fuckers, you fuckers! Yeah! Fuck em'!

Fuuuuuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. [She gestures like a rooster, strutting, puffing out her chest, craning her neck upwards with the release of each fuck].

Now that, is what I call giving more than just a fuck.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:18 | 5707628 pupdog1
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Eric Holder has threatened no-knock raids for any suburban white folks suspected of having spare batteries.

In this morning's press conference, Holder stated that "The threat posed to the homeland by flashlight-wielding Caucasians checking on their diabetic eldery neighbors at any time during a blizzard cannot be underestimated."

Holder added that in an emergency addendum to the Patriot Act, the posession of matches, candles, Band-Aids, and cans of stew have been added to the "mandatoy felony" provision of the existing law.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 14:43 | 5707150 thismarketisrigged
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they will still use it as an excuse.

 

i mean come on, snow in jan, who has ever heard of that?

 

ppl here in ny are acting as if this is the storm of the century, etc, it pisses me off. its a fucking big snowstorm, we have seen this before here in ny, we r not getting 7 feet like buffalo did back in november, now that is serious shit

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 14:48 | 5707165 dirtyfiles
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that's what happen with people having "overprotective" government

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 14:53 | 5707185 JRobby
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Media Government

Government Media

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 14:45 | 5707158 Skateboarder
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Zero impact on employment. 100% impact on Q1 figures.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 14:54 | 5707170 Mercury
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Timestamp this:

 

The impact of the blizzard on municipal expenditures will be sufficient to put Meredith Whitney back on TV.


Also, considerable efforts will be made to prevent this crisis from "going to waste".

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 14:56 | 5707184 SheepDog-One
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If anything, employment should rise, gotta have snow shovelers after all. And why would anyone lose their job because it snowed? Bunch of convoluted front running malarkey.
PS- go fuck ya self Joey LaBaloney! Timestamp that!

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 14:52 | 5707188 JRobby
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But, but, I had an interview set for tomorrow......

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 14:53 | 5707191 KnuckleDragger-X
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NYC is great place for the new glaciers to start........

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:24 | 5707666 MsCreant
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That's just cold.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 14:54 | 5707196 youngman
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They are working overtime at the local grocery store stocking the shelves....good thing this isnt Venzualea..you would go hungry

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 15:07 | 5707257 SheepDog-One
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Our local store closed recently, now I have to drive like 8 miles to a crappier store.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 15:10 | 5707258 SheepDog-One
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For fucks sakes!

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:27 | 5707673 MsCreant
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Let them eat toilet paper and tampons. 

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 14:57 | 5707211 carbonmutant
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Seasonal Adjustment Bitchez...

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 14:59 | 5707213 readyforit
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Mon, 01/26/2015 - 15:09 | 5707267 Mike Honcho
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Even comments are getting snowed out.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:29 | 5707677 MsCreant
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Nice.

Cocaine is good for GDP, right? It's blowing outside, bitchez.

The real New York Snowstorm. 

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 14:59 | 5707219 SheepDog-One
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Who even cares about employment data anymore? If it beats, it's good news....if it misses, even better news!
Too many people out there with useless 'jobs' worrying about other people's jobs.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 15:04 | 5707246 Osmium
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And best of all, most of the time, the employmnet data is an out and out LIE.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 15:19 | 5707316 Handful of Dust
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" Who cares about employment ? ... as long as my EBT card comes on time .... "

 

... is what I hear.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 15:03 | 5707235 Ban KKiller
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What jobs? Politicians? Banksters? Hope they get ebola blowjobs.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 15:04 | 5707245 wmbz
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Good lord it's going to snow and these pansies get all wee-weed up.  It would be funny if the weather service gets it wrong and it doesn't snow 3'.

I'm sure all the milk and bread is long gone by now.

I'd head to the beer&wine store myself.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 19:25 | 5708353 Red Raspberry
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Milk sandwiches are my favorite!!

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 19:24 | 5708354 Red Raspberry
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Milk sandwiches are my favorite!!

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 15:14 | 5707282 PrayingMantis
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... there's no business like snow business ...

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 15:16 | 5707297 Mike Honcho
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The ego on that dude is galactic.  I imagine his interest is with speaking, being listened to is irrelevant.  His morning mirror pep talk has got to be YouTube worthy.

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 15:20 | 5707317 B2u
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Here is what it will be like in NY.  Same as Fergeson.

 

http://woundedamericanwarrior.com/watch-a-mob-of-180-people-trash-a-conv...

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 15:21 | 5707319 Handful of Dust
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Shovel-ready jobs ....

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 15:35 | 5707403 tradewithdave
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The Zero Lower (snow) Bound

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 15:53 | 5707501 Kreditanstalt
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The mainstream investoriat would have us believe the fate of the whole world is in doubt because it's snowing in a corner of the U.S....

Kind of like they tell us that "consumption and spending in the Midwest" are VERY VERY IMPORTANT...

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 15:58 | 5707530 Ricky Roma
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Lol, never gets old!

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:00 | 5707538 Yancey Ward
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Who got the lucrative contract to plow Lavorgna's forehead?

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:14 | 5707615 Oleander
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Home Depot and Target are out of snow shovels and ice melt. The grocery store was getting  crazy. Many people filling trucks and 5 gallon gas cans so the lines are 15- 20 minutes long. Liquor store did not have a long line yet.  We are looking at potential 24+ inches. Anyone who has not figured out how to get a generator in the past 2 yrs. Is a fool. We tend to lose power for days from these storms yet people always cry about how long it takes to get the power back.

 

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:22 | 5707648 clade7
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Thats bad news about the liquor stores...whats up with that?

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 19:40 | 5708409 Buster Cherry
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I wonder if there would be any money to be made.if.I.loaded.my truck with 6500watt generators and manual trnsfer switches and headed to New Yawk each fall to install the setups.....

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 16:41 | 5707731 Fix It Again Timmy
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Can't we napalm the snow?  Won't that make it go away? Yeah, that's the ticket, bring out the B52s and carpet bomb NYC with Napalm - OpERaTiON Snowless in New York.....

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 20:14 | 5708492 numapepi
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Maybe this year will be the warmest in history like last year... despite the polar vortex, record snow in Australia, snow in India, soonest ice pack on the Great Lakes ever, etc...

Mon, 01/26/2015 - 23:48 | 5709257 pasttense
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Whether or not it has an effect on employment numbers it will very definitely have an impact on Walmart and other retailers who will explain in their next quarterly results that the results were so much worse than expected solely because of this big storm.

 

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 04:27 | 5709670 22winmag
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Nail guns are not just for bankers.

 

Economists ought to be fair game.

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