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Is The US Preparing To Blame The Next Market Crash On "Russian Spies" And HFT?

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As reported yesterday, in a surprise announcement late in the day, and shortly before the S&P downgraded Russia to junk (perhaps as part of the fine-print of its $1.5 settlement with the DOJ for daring to downgrade the US in 2011), the US Department of Justice announced it had busted a Russian spy ring in New York City, where at least one of the three people was said to be involved with finance and potentially, capital markets.

Specifically, the DOJ announced "charges against Evgeny Buryakov, aka “Zhenya,” Igor Sporyshev and Victor Podobnyy in connection with Buryakov’s service as a covert intelligence agent on behalf of the Russian Federation (Russia) in New York City, without notifying the U.S. Attorney General of Buryakov’s status as an agent of Russia, as required by federal law.  Buryakov was placed under arrest earlier today in Bronx, New York, and is scheduled to appear before U.S. Magistrate Judge Sarah Netburn in federal court in Manhattan later today.  Sporyshev and Podobnyy no longer reside in the United States and have not been arrested.  By virtue of their prior positions in the United States on behalf of Russia, both of them were protected by diplomatic immunity from arrest and prosecution while in the United States."

On the surface this sounds like your plain vanilla diplomatic escalation, in which a lowly spy, or rather alleged spy, is exposed to show the displeasure of the host regime toward the opposing country, an action which will surely result, within 24-48 hours, in a comparable arrest of a US spy in Russia.

And yet, reading through the complaint we were dumbfounded when we encountered the following exchange:

On or about May 21, 2013, IGOR SPORYSHEV, the defendant, called EVGENY BURYAKOV, a/k/a "Zhenya," the defendant, to ask for BURYAKOV's help in formulating questions to be used for intelligence-gathering purposes by others associated with a leading Russian state-owned news organization (the "News Organization").

 

From my training and experience, I know that the News Organization has been publicly identified by former SVR agents as an organization that is sometimes used by Russian intelligence to gain access to and gather intelligence under the cover of the news media.

 

During the May 21, 2013 telephone call between EVGENY BURYAKOV, a/k/a "Zhenya," and IGOR SPORYSHEV, the defendants, which was intercepted by the FBI, the following exchange occurred:

 

EVGENY BURYAKOV ("EB"): Hello?

IS: Hello Evgeny.

EB: Hey.

IS: Can you talk? .    . I need help.

EB: Aha.

IS: [The News Organization] wants very much, I don't know how it came down from the top, but they need three questions with regard to the New York Exchange. What would be interesting to us. Can you help write something?

EB: It's a difficult question.    . I need to think.

IS: Can you think of something in fifteen minutes?

EB: Fifteen minutes?

IS: Yes.

EB: I'll try. . . . Should I call you?

IS: Yes, call me.

EB: If you will not pass by me?

IS: No, I will not.

 

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Approximately 20 minutes later, IGOR SPORYSHEV, the defendant, called EVGENY BURYAKOV, a/k/a "Zhenya,"the defendant, and the following conversation, which was intercepted by the FBI, occurred:

 

EB: Well, I thought about it. I don' t know whether it will work for you but you can ask about ETF. . . . E-T-F. E, exchange.

IS: Yes, got it.

EB: How they are used, the mechanisms of use for destabilization of the markets.

IS: Mechanism - of - use - for - market - stabilization in modern conditions.

EB: For destabilization.

IS: Aha.

EB: Then you can ask them what they think about limiting the use of trading robots. . . . You can also ask about the potential interest of the participants of the exchange to the products tied to the Russian Federation.

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Based on my training, experience, and participation in this investigation, I believe that, in this conversation, IGOR SPORYSHEV, the defendant, asked for, and obtained from, EVGENY BURYAKOV, a/k/a "Zhenya," the defendant, questions of interest to the Russian economic intelligence community that were to be used by others associated with the News Organization. SPORYSHEV began the conversation by asking for help ("I need help") . SPORYSHEV said that a request came down from leadership, which I believe to be a reference to the SVR leadership, to pass three questions regarding the New York Stock Exchange to the News Organization ("[The News Organization] wants very much . . . it came down from the top, but they need three questions with regard to the New York Exchange")

 

In a notable departure from every other intercepted conversation involving these two men, IGOR SPORYSHEV, the defendant, made it clear in this call that the two men did not have time to meet in person to discuss this intelligence assignment. Rather, SPORYSHEV asked EVGENY BURYAKOV, a/k/a "Zhenya," the defendant, to get back to him within "fifteen minutes" ("Can you think of something in fifteen minutes?"). BURYAKOV then suggested he would call SPORYSHEV back but only if SPORYSHEV was unable to meet in person (IS: "Yes, call me."; EB: "If you will not pass by me?") . I believe that this time pressure is the reason that this particular intelligence assignment was relayed over a telephone line rather than in person.

 

IGOR SPORYSHEV, the defendant, then called EVGENY BURYAKOV, a/k/a "Zhenya," the defendant, back to supply a particular line of questioning for use by the News Organization. Specifically, BURYAKOV said the News Organization could ask about how the New York Stock Exchange ("NYSE") used exchange-traded funds or "ETF"; potential limits on the use of high-frequency, automated trading systems ("trading robots") ; and the potential interest among NYSE members to products tied to Russia ("products tied to the Russian Federation").

 

Based on my training and experience, and my familiarity with this investigation, I believe that neither defendant' s cover position - banker (EVGENY BURYAKOV, a/k/a "Zhenya," the defendant) and a Trade Office representative (IGOR SPORYSHEV, the defendant) - involves providing assistance to Russian journalists. Nor do their covers explain why the two men would be engaging in a discussion about crafting questions that "would be interesting to us" and that the News Organization representatives should put to New York Stock Exchange employees.

Absurdity of the entire exchange aside, because when one "spy" ask another "spy" whether he "can ask about ETF. . . . E-T-F. E, exchange... How they are used, the mechanisms of use for destabilization of the markets" to which the other replies with "Mechanism - of - use - for - market - stabilization in modern conditions" and is promptly corrected "For destabilization" and when the first one further inquires about "what they think about limiting the use of trading robots", it simply reeks of a scripted conversation.

Worse, when the supposed originator of this line of inquiry is none other than the modern KGB i.e., the Foreign Intelligence Service, i.e. the SVR, because as the FBI special agent on the case says "SPORYSHEV said that a request came down from leadership, which I believe to be a reference to the SVR leadership, to pass three questions regarding the New York Stock Exchange to the News Organization", one has to wonder if the Russian KGB couldn't just open a blog - say this one - or even read a book - say that of Michael Lewis' - to understand all they need to know about just how "robots" and "E-T-Fs" destabilize markets. No, they had to use a network of spies to get to the bottom of just how rigged the market is.

So we will leave aside questions of just what this supposed spy bust is supposed to achieve, with the FBI having now exposed a ground-level apparatchik, who clearly knows nothing and needs pointers on "trading robots", and ending the FBI's ability to trail his activities in the future as well as to potentially get to his superiors - which is always the main prerogative in spy cases such as this one - one thing has become abundantly clear: the scapegoating plan for the "blame game" once the next, devastating, market crash takes place, will be simple: first, blame the E-T-Fs and the "trading robots" for the destabilization (but not the central banks, never the central banks), and then, just to kill all birds with one stone: blame it on the Russian spies.

Sadly, yes: bad B-grade movie scripts from the 80's is just how one would describe the current administration (complete lack of) imagination and foresight. Then again, what else can one expect when none other than the president relied on the "stupidity of the American voter" to pass his career-defining "Affordable" Care Act?

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The full complaint in the case of "Attorney General Holder Announces Charges Against Russian Spy Ring in New York City" can be found here, and in the embedded document below.

 

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Tue, 01/27/2015 - 13:45 | 5711529 InjectTheVenom
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>>>>  Putin

>>>>  Obama

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 13:52 | 5711572 Soul Glow
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Who cares, both are puppets for vast monied interests.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 13:56 | 5711591 linniepar
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I've seen this movie before. Jack Ryan, what say you?

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:09 | 5711666 Latina Lover
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I read through the FBI complaint. What I found interesting was that the supposed Russian spy was seeking ECONOMIC data, not corporate or military secrets. As pointed out above, nearly all of this info is open source.  Perhaps the supposed spy was trying to steal the REAL economic data, not the BS fed to the masses.

Anyways the timing is suspicious.  To me this is just another PR stunt against Russia.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:22 | 5711739 pods
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Caught him running a seach on BLS.gov for "real data."

pods

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:29 | 5711772 McMolotov
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The talk about "trading robots" makes me miss RobotTrader.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:38 | 5711828 Skateboarder
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No one arrested Blythe Masters for coming up with CDS...

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:41 | 5711840 kliguy38
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Thats because she dots her i's and crossed her Ts and spread her legs

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 15:09 | 5712027 MillionDollarBonus_
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The 21st century has seen a shocking rise in cyberterrorism targeted at governments, corporations and innocent citizens. The internet is an unregulated playground, where hackers can do as they please and intolerant cyber-bullies and trolls can torment their victims without fear of repercussions. Our politicians are mostly of the older generations, and they do not truly understand the internet and its dangers to society. We need a new generation of cyber-police, sourced from the best most upstanding technologists of generation X. This group of young men and women should be tasked with designing and enforcing a bullet proof regulatory framework that monitors internet traffic and reports all malicious activity directly to law enforcement. We will then be able to enjoy the good parts of the internet, like reading the news, watching movies, online shopping and emails, without having to worry about the cyber-criminals that currently run free in the virtual wild west that is today's internet.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 15:14 | 5712063 sleigher
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LOL

The best hackers are gen Xers.  I know this is satire but people probably do think this way.  

Rather than NOT hooking your super dooper secret important system to the fucking internet in the first place.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 15:21 | 5712120 RafterManFMJ
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Well, I'm off to enlist folks! I'd rather stop them on the steppes than have these dirty Rooskies snooping through my Quicken accounts or filling our food supply with HFCS.

I just skimmed the FBI docs but I saw not fewer than 3 references to stealing "our precious bodily fluids" so we've no time to waste!

REMEMBER THE HFT RUSSIAN MARKET CRASH! Will be our cry as my contemporaries slouch defiantly into battle.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 15:48 | 5712299 Greyhat
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The Russians are playing chess. If the FBI recorded this, the wanted to have it recorded, officially, for the files.

US defense now has the choice to say "thats all bullshit, paranoia is not espionage" or to say "that is espionage", but then the HFT destabilisation theory is in the files as a true piece of info someone can spy on.

Clever! :)

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 16:08 | 5712417 Syrin
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It was the ROOSKIES !!!

 

Better DEAD THAN RED !!!

 

 

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 19:48 | 5713490 logicalman
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So, the US governmnent is doing EVERYTHING in its power to damage the Russian economy.

If we are witnessing (if???) a currency war, this kind of stuff is par for the course, whether it's true or fiction.

In Russia they are saying 'it was the Merkans'

It's all bullshit. A small group who have taken power over others play childish (yet deadly) games while the majority pay for all the madness.

 

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 17:27 | 5712863 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Funny is good.

Wed, 01/28/2015 - 08:17 | 5715105 StychoKiller
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I could use a fresh supply of a certain precious bodily fluid, mine is taking a coupla days to replenish, know what I mean?

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 15:15 | 5712068 McMolotov
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+1 This one was great. Fight the intolerant cyber-bullies!

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 17:47 | 5712952 Bay of Pigs
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He certainly has his moments. Sarc at its best.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 15:19 | 5712086 TheFourthStooge-ing
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MDB, you forgot one important point. It is critically important that each member of this new generation of cyber police is properly accredited.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 15:58 | 5712351 Greyhat
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"We need a new generation of cyber-police, sourced from the best most upstanding technologists of generation X."

You really want to let c# visual studio mouse pushers do mens work? :)

You better call the old mad cowboys if you have some old school optimized job to do.

Ask the NSA to lease you the greybeard that did the duqu ooc com module. This guy could.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 16:25 | 5712527 lemonobrien
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hey dude... i coded the internet at the ip level in the 90s, the only people that use c# are young tards who can't code c. 

 

so fuck you... and the NSA ain'ts gots nofins on mees.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 16:28 | 5712528 lemonobrien
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dp'd your ass bitch.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 17:59 | 5712983 Late onset ADHD
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c#.... c#...???...ha, ha, ha!!!...

yeah right, better wipe some of that gui-lube all over their asses... they're about to get "loved long time" against their will...

the only thing more retarded than mdb is the shill that writes his posts and fetches his online-porn for him...

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 17:18 | 5712804 Secret Weapon
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Dear Mr. Bonus, How would you gurantee that this "bullet proof regulatory framework" would not be used by the government as a tool for the supression of political dissent? 

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 18:04 | 5713024 Late onset ADHD
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MDB is counting on it being used that way...

read between his lines...

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 16:39 | 5712614 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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It took decades to finally get Bernie Madoff, Richard Fuld, Christopher Cox, Angelo Mozillo, Alan Greenspan, Milton Freidman, Robert Rubin, Larry Summers, Henry Paulson, John Paulson, Jon Corzine, et cetera.

Empirically, we have only really been waiting for the Blythe Masters take down for just under seven years time. As soon as Credit Default Swaps

implode the entire World back into the dark ages because of the Dark Pool Derivatives Universe of $1.5 Quadrillion with a 'Q' proportion of volume, we will see a concerted effort to take another look at confining Blythe Masters in a Maximum Security Prison cell just like Bernie Madoff. The 'powers that be' are still making money off of Blythe's Weapons of Mass Destruction and when they stop making money they will think twice about that decision to bring her on-board in 1993.

It is only a matter of time before Masters pays her dues to society

and the Laws of Mathematics!!!

 

What an imbicile Masters turned out to be in just 22 years of her Ponzi run time. Madoff's Ponzi worked for longer than that IMO.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:22 | 5711740 Manthong
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Those filthy Rooskies could only pull off this heinous plot if they had a double agent working for them on the inside..

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-05/meet-kevin-henry-etf-trading-expert

 

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:40 | 5711834 Max Steel
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Obama's war on journalists and whistleblowers

 http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/01/26/former-cia-officer-convicted-in-new-...

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:59 | 5711949 McMolotov
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One of the theories that's making the rounds is that the fake nuclear plans were intended to be used as "evidence" against Iran and serve as a pretext for war. If true, the whistleblower likely saved at least a few hundred thousand lives.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 15:11 | 5712031 HungryPorkChop
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@Latina Lover:  Well if they really wanted to steal the REAL economic data, not the BS fed to the masses.

I'd suggest a subscription to John Williams report at Shadowstats.  Its cost is a whopping $175 / year.  http://www.shadowstats.com/

I really hope there's more to this spy story..

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 15:21 | 5712110 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Supposedly the FBI also found VHS tapes of Closing Bell and Mad Money.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 15:42 | 5712233 BorisTheBlade
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If anything, the economic data worth a lot is where government admits to certain things, i.e. structural vulnerabilities of the economy and unmassaged statistics not available as open source. That beind said, US economy vulnerabilities are out there in the open and what might baffle Russian intelligence community is why the hell that frauduluent house of cards still standing. The capacity to maintain illusion of prosperity and willingness of masses to follow the lies are truly remarkable. KGB, I'm certain, both impressed and curious.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 15:23 | 5712125 HungryPorkChop
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The part of this story that probably what has the gubbermint on interested is a lot of the stock algo's were supposedly designed by top Russian Physicists back in the 90's after the collapse of the USSR. They needed work and Wall Street was more than happy to hire them in order to design algorithms so they could figure out which stocks to buy and make zillion$$ of dollar$.  Now could that could come back to bit them in the arse..??  I dunno but gives an interesting twist to this spy vs spy story.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 15:30 | 5712178 me again
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Obviously, propaganda. it's pathethic; intended for the 11yr. old population; for those who don't get that; that's the 11 yr. old "adult" population.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 15:55 | 5712338 popeye
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The whole thing is a sick joke. The guy is not even asking for information, hes asking for QUESTIONS!!

Or the second conversation could have a completely different subtext, but the FBI complaint doesn't even contemplate that, so all-in-all the FBI looks like a bunch of ignorant fools with an agenda.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:00 | 5711601 y3maxx
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Russian Spy False Flag event.

Yemen False Flag event.

which one leads to open war?

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 13:58 | 5711612 Herd Redirectio...
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Putin is much less of a puppet than Obama.  Come on.

Putin atleast ATTENDS the meetings, LISTENS to the briefings, makes decisions.

Obama spends his time in golf clubhouses (no, I did not mean to say he spends his time golfing).

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:27 | 5711770 DetectiveStern
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Putin is like someone trading their own money, they don't fuck about. Obama is like someone trading someone elses money, they don't really give a fuck as long as the sucker pays the performance fees.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:49 | 5711896 noben
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"Who cares, both are puppets for vast monied interests."

I can't think of a single country where this is not the case, nor one where 'Oligarchs' aren't ultimately in control.

Just like "all people are not the same" and "all parents are not the same", so too all Oligarchs are not the same. I would argue. Like good or bad parents, some are more evolved, capable and decent than others.

The more evolved ones live are in more cultured and civilized countries (Nordic countries, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Canada, New Zealand, Holland, Luxemburg, Belgium, Liechtenstein, Monaco), where the spread between the top and bottom is not as extreme as in the more rotten versions that apply to most of the world.

It is the worldview of the Oli's in each country that define the character and path of each country.

p.s. I apologize if a more 'differentiated' picture does not align with the B&W preconceived versions that most 'Mericans (and many here) prefer or insist on. "As you were"...

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 15:33 | 5712196 me again
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The ignorant and intellectually weak surrender immediately;  "their all the same is so much easier than educating yourself; assuming of course, that that were possible.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 18:39 | 5713219 Volkodav
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VV Putin was never about money

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 13:46 | 5711532 Pooper Popper
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I blame

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 13:48 | 5711553 nuubee
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Wilson

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 17:20 | 5712833 NoDecaf
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Wilson the Volleyball?

 

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 13:53 | 5711569 papaswamp
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iBlame

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 13:52 | 5711575 InjectTheVenom
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Borat

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:03 | 5711625 Callz d Ballz
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Fun-dur-mentals

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:30 | 5711787 onewayticket2
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the video

the _______ vortex

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:33 | 5711798 FreeShitter
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Where the hell is beaks

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 13:52 | 5711571 stinkhammer
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I BLAME Edward Quince and his lovely concubine Janet

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 13:53 | 5711582 Bokkenrijder
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Well, if the Russians can manipulate the markets down, doesn't that automatically also imply that the US Government can manipulate the markets up? (and gold down of course!)

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 15:45 | 5712271 BorisTheBlade
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Yes, but manipulating markets upwards and gold downwards is (heavily indebted) Government's patriotic duty. If arrows aren't green, they are red. Better dead than red, we know that. /sarc 

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 13:47 | 5711539 skbull44
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Not to worry. Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit, will fix everything!!

 

http://olduvai.ca

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 13:48 | 5711542 madbraz
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pretty obvious false flag.  they are not even good at faking stuff.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:03 | 5711626 nuubee
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But they faked 9/11 perfectly though, right? They screwed up this obvious one, but 9/11 was a perfectly executed false flag, even 14 years later, no one has come forward with the truth of the demolition charges....

 

Sorry, I get confused as to what is a good and bad false flag these days. 

/Gov't is incompetent in all aspects

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:35 | 5711802 kowalli
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We were told about tomahawk in 9/11 which was lunched from usa ship and hit pentagon at the same day. I think only West doesn't know about it...

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 16:57 | 5712697 NidStyles
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They can't talk if they are dead.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 17:24 | 5712846 booboo
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Grasping at straws now are they and just who the fuck thought up this one, what the hell??? Usually there is a table spread with fake Groucho Marx glasses mustache and nose, a wig, shoe phone, decoder ring, cyanide pill and a fake passport. What? a fucking recording of two guys asking questions about market manipulation by bots?

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 13:49 | 5711543 me again
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Pathetic. Utterly pathetic.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:23 | 5711748 ThirdWorldDude
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I am Jack's complete lack of surprise...

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 13:50 | 5711551 stant
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Moose and squirl not listed on nyse

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 13:54 | 5711577 Conax
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Natasha still at large.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 15:24 | 5712137 TheFourthStooge-ing
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FBI special agent Captain Peter "Wrongway" Peachfuzz has been assigned to the case.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 13:48 | 5711552 knukles
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The Russians are Not the one's destabilizing financial markets, BTW, "folks"
Aaaaaaararraarragggaggaahhhahahhrhrhhrrhhhhhh!

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:11 | 5711622 clade7
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Its plausible though..I like it!  lets ask the audience..." Who destabilized the stock market?  Pollacks or Russians?...  Russians by a whopping vote!

See? plausible!  Now ask the audience, "who wrecked the penny stocks" and the Pollacks would get the landslide victory...Its really not a fair question.

 

Akin to asking, "Who wrecked the Landscaping Industry?  niggers or Mexicans?  See? Its gotta be plausible!

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:24 | 5711757 Odin McHaggis
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Made me sign in just to up vote this.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 15:26 | 5712151 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Who stole potato? Must be viedoklis_lv.

Explains why he changed handle to freedom123. Much clever.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:02 | 5711559 LawsofPhysics
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Won't work now.  There has been far too much publicity regarding the "need for extrodinary measures to save the economy"....

 

Okay fine, the taxpayers of the world have allowed bankers and financiers access to hundreds of billions of FREE MONEY (QE and ZIRP with ZIRP continuing).  NONE of this appears to be making it to main street but if the talking heads and political puppets are going to insist that "it worked" then raise rates motherfuckers!!!

If not, then some serious refunds and/or retribution is due!

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:08 | 5711660 Kaiser Sousa
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just like they cant find their fucking stolen Gold....

"

Germany’s financial regulator BaFin has found no evidence to support allegations of manipulation in the gold market or that currency exchange rates were systematically rigged, according to its head of banking supervision.

Raimund Roeseler also said the watchdog is close to concluding a probe into alleged attempts to rig the London Interbank Offered Rate, a benchmark for borrowing costs. He didn’t comment on the results of that investigation.

The probe into currency markets is still under way, he said. Roeseler spoke to Handelsblatt newspaper in an interview published in Frankfurt Monday. Oliver Struck, a spokesman for BaFin, confirmed the comments in an e-mail to Bloomberg News."

 

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 13:51 | 5711563 Bush Baby
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Where's the part about conspiracy to sell "Loosies" ?

 

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 13:52 | 5711566 Central Wanker
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BULLSHIT!

B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T !

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:03 | 5711629 Jethro
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Russian Intelligence is smart, and ruthless.  I have no doubt that mistakes are made, even by the best intel guys, but this story borders on the retarded.  If these are the ones they caught, then maybe these are the ones that were meant to be caught. 

To be honest, I didn't like the Russians when I used to work at a US Embassy.  Those fuckers would come take pictures of me every time I went out to jog in their diplomatic plated vehicles.  There must be 50 or more pictures of me flipping the camera off somewhere in the Kremlin.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:20 | 5711735 El Vaquero
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Or maybe it's just Obama, Jarrett and crew playing Chicago style politics nabbing up some innocent Russians to somehow 'punish' Russia.  Those fucking morons would concoct something that dumb. 

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:31 | 5711786 Jethro
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Chicago politics is bush league when compared to KGB tactics. They are out of their depth, and we'd all better hope that Jarrett and her minions aren't playing with fire.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:31 | 5711788 trulz4lulz
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This is the turth right here. I would not put that past them in the slightest. Or they really are Russian speaking Ukies, playing patsie for the mic.gov. Either way, that is the most likely scenario. It can really only play out one way. America, yet again, is the victim in this cruel, cruel world who has been set out against her benevolence.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 13:52 | 5711570 ThisIsBob
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Keystone cops.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:40 | 5711819 seataka
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delete

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:39 | 5711823 seataka
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The CIA refers to the FBI as Fan Belt Inspectors

or

Famous But Incompetent

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 15:09 | 5712015 Son of Captain Nemo
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The CIA refers to the FBI as Fan Belt Inspectors...

That's a tall order coming from an organization that claims it is "intelligence" looking out for the security and the interests of it's Government Shhh corporations ...which has single handidly bankrupted this Country with the money coming from it's partner and accomplice the U.S. Treasury through the Federal Reserve!

I think after the last 20 years I would rather be associated with an organization that had a "cross dresser" at the helm, instead of the one that had a pedophile!

Just sayin!

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:18 | 5711573 Son of Captain Nemo
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Time for Boris and Natasha the ones (from Kiev) NOT Moscow to earn their keep for being on "Uncle Sam's" payroll all these years....

Now (dual citizens) living in the United States since 1994 as "civil servants" they will use those computer skills the way that Langley always intended when they knew the "House of Cards" would be collapsing 20 years beforehand!

Wonder if the Kolomoisky contingent will be in charge of the NYSE "Rule 48"???...

Coincidence? Or Perfect timing?...

Well at least if something goes down with a hack on the exchange we can point the finger at the CIA or the Fed which cancel each other out anyway!!!

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 13:54 | 5711590 Sanity Bear
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can someone point me to a stable market please

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:08 | 5711656 cro_maat
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Tulips

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:42 | 5711843 clade7
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Craigslist...beaniebabies...

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 13:56 | 5711597 czarangelus
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I've been surprised by the incredible restraint of Russia and China so far. They both must understand that they're in the same boat; the United States will conquer the world if it can, and destroy the world if it can't conquer it and isn't stopped. Putin and Xi have been playing incredible softball considering the circumstances. I can see not wanting to make a bad situation worse; I can see not interfering with an enemy who's destroying himself; but still, you'd think they'd have it in them to offer Obama a little push.

I mean Christ, how easy would it be to sponsor a vehmently anti-American "color revolution" in Mexico? That place has been a toilet for decades, in no small amount thanks to the "drug" policies of the United States.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:15 | 5711693 cro_maat
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China doesn't need a color revolution in Mexico. They are busy exchanging treasuries for US RE, companies and resources. They are allowing Obama to finish the job of creating a 3rd world nation out of the USSA and will utilize the new influx of illegal aliens (and future FEMA campers) for their new USSA factories.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 15:01 | 5711973 NotApplicable
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The only battle won is the one avoided.

When someone is trying to bait you into a fight, the best thing you can do is to not react to anything, as it will immediately be claimed as the next casus belli.

Instead, you do some rope-a-dope maneuvers while waiting for the opponent to trip over their own feet. Eventually, even their strongest supporters grow wise to the game.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 15:12 | 5712047 czarangelus
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Wise words. But one doesn't see many philosopher-kings, nowadays...

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 16:23 | 5712516 Hapa
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Russia and China must protect their own economies and political stability foremost.  Recklessness is not in the cards.  They know that if they act too rash or fast, things could backfire.  Their own people could revolt and take down their own system, an unwanted byproduct of badly timed aggression toward an adversary that led to economic instability for everyone. 

We individuals think emotionally and decisively, but countries don't. Better to let an adversary self-destruct.  Then if there is systemic faiure, the people won't point a finger at their own government for having created it. They can see it originated from the side of the adversary.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 16:26 | 5712532 Oldrepublic
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Tequila revolution

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 13:58 | 5711600 Jethro
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Ah.  Russia=Bush for a new 2-minute hate.  Got it.  The Bush's will be relieved. 

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 13:58 | 5711602 medium giraffe
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are you not entertained?!

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:01 | 5711615 Smiley
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Well, what else are they going to do, hold THEMSELVES accountable?  I think we all know just how well the system regulates itself...

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:01 | 5711616 pndr4495
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We need Boris Alotovkrap's analysis.

 

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:02 | 5711632 WTFUD
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He's Behind You! Oh no he isn't, Oh yes . . .
Sheer Panto from Spooksville USSA.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:04 | 5711635 fishwharf
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The sad part is that many americans will believe this BS and think the FBI's "special" agents are protecting them.

 

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:41 | 5711729 WTFUD
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The truth is people don't give a fuck until they can't make the rent or eat. That time is approaching but all too late for Joe Soap. After warning these dupes for months, years, the calls for help are coming in; Have had NO CHOICE BUT TO CHANGE MY NUMBER. FUCK 'EM.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:08 | 5711655 TeethVillage88s
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Just say NO, to HFT and Trading Robots.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:07 | 5711658 Toolshed
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Take this bit of theatre of the absurd and couple it with the UK's renewed interest in the "investigation" of the Litvinenko poisoning and the attempt at perception control is beyond obvious. The comments on UK based Litvinenko articles are pretty amusing, as the sheep mostly ain't buying the lies. The law of diminishing returns is rearing it's ugly head everywhere it seems.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 15:41 | 5712237 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Interesting article from six months ago regarding certain persons in the UK trying to revive the Litvinenko "investigation". It looks like it could backfire on them bigtime.

http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2014/07/31/theresa-may-raises-an-o...

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 18:31 | 5713115 Volkodav
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Brits needing some distraction now regurgitate this after one of main culprit dead..before brits didn't want talk about after

exposed they involved..now that died down

"The Phoney Litvinenko Murder" William Dunkerley.  

Berezovsky and Goldfarb...most swarmy criminals

These three worked for bigger fish..

Berezovsky could not be allowed return to Russia and eventually expose

 

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:11 | 5711670 SheepDog-One
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Define 'market crash'.....what's that like -2% S&P drop?

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:12 | 5711677 Soul Glow
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This is hillarious!  They had to go undercover to find this out?  They should just be reading zero hedge!

 

 

The news Organization] wants very much, I don't know how it came down from the top, but they need three questions with regard to the New York Exchange. What would be interesting to us. Can you help write something?

EB: It's a difficult question.    . I need to think.

IS: Can you think of something in fifteen minutes?

EB: Fifteen minutes?

IS: Yes.

EB: I'll try. . . . Should I call you?

IS: Yes, call me.

EB: If you will not pass by me?

IS: No, I will not.

 

* * *

 

Approximately 20 minutes later, IGOR SPORYSHEV, the defendant, called EVGENY BURYAKOV, a/k/a "Zhenya,"the defendant, and the following conversation, which was intercepted by the FBI, occurred:

 

EB: Well, I thought about it. I don' t know whether it will work for you but you can ask about ETF. . . . E-T-F. E, exchange.

IS: Yes, got it.

EB: How they are used, the mechanisms of use for destabilization of the markets.

IS: Mechanism - of - use - for - market - stabilization in modern conditions.

EB: For destabilization.

IS: Aha.

EB: Then you can ask them what they think about limiting the use of trading robots. . . . You can also ask about the potential interest of the participants of the exchange to the products tied to the Russian Federation.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 16:03 | 5712394 TheFourthStooge-ing
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IS: Hey, I need your help with something.

EB: What?

IS: My niece is an intern at RT. She's being sent to cover a press conference at the NYSE and knows nothing about finance. She's bugging me to help her come up with two or three questions to ask so that she won't look stupid. Can you think of any?

EB: If I do, will you come over and hook up my VCR?

IS: Not a problem.

* * *

Approximately 20 minutes later, IGOR SPORYSHEV, the defendant, called EVGENY BURYAKOV, a/k/a "Zhenya,"the defendant, and the following conversation, which was intercepted by the FBI, occurred:

EB: OK, I got some quick ideas from a web site I read.

IS: Great!

EB: Well, I thought about it. I don' t know whether it will work for you, but you can ask about accreditation of financial experts.

IS: Yes, got it.

EB: How they obtain accreditation, what credentials are most important.

IS: Yes, credentials...

EB: Then you can ask why the silver price is so volatile when it only costs five dollars an ounce to get it out of the ground.

IS: Oooooh, bravo!

EB: Then ask about rehypothecation and how it pertains to the shadow banking system.

IS: Rehypoth... rehypotha... ???

EB: Never mind, just go with the first ones. And be sure to tell her not to ask about the US middle class being the King Class, and don't ever mention US citizenism.

IS: OK, got it.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 17:22 | 5712842 Intoxicologist
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ROR!

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:15 | 5711690 kchrisc
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"Is The US Preparing To Blame The Next Market Crash On "Russian Spies"?"

What we do know for 100% is that the Zionist banksters, and Wall St., along with their violence-puppets, government, will not be blaming themselves.

The banksters need to repay us.

 

But there is this ancient wisdom to guide us in assessing blame: Whoever smelt it dealt it...

 He/She who declared it blared it.He/She who observed it served it.He/She who detected it ejected it.He/She who said the rhyme did the crime.Whoever spoke last set off the blast.Whoever smelt it dealt it.Whoever denied it supplied it.The next person who speaks is the person who reeks. The smeller's the feller.He/She who inculpated promulgated.The one who said the verse just made the atmosphere worse.Whoever's poking fun is the smoking gunHe/She who accuses blew the fuses.He/She who refuted it tooted it.He/She who pointed the finger pulled the trigger.He/She who articulated it particulated it.He/She who deduced it produced it.He/She who was a smart-ass has a fart-assShe who sniffed it biffed it.The slanderer made the gland error.He/She who eulogized it aerosolized it.Whoever makes the joke makes the ass smoke.He/She who rapped it cracked it.Whoever rebuts it cuts it.Whoever spoke it broke it.Whoever asked gassed.Whoever started farted.Whoever explained it ordained it.

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20140225204335AAsCkXV

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:13 | 5711691 Lumberjack
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No matter how fucking ridiculous this shit gets, what boggles my mind is that they don't know when to quit.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:23 | 5711759 kchrisc
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"No matter how fucking ridiculous this shit gets, what boggles my mind is that they don't know when to quit."

Actually, their system of theft, like all ponzi schemes, cannot stop once begun, but actually must be expanded.

It is a negative reinforcing cycle, that expands exponentially until it no longer can do so, and then crashes.

Griffin, in "The Creature from Jekyll Island," presents the clearest explanation of it, while Rothbard, Hazlitt, and Hayek offer the deepest intellectual dissections of it.

The banksters need to repay us.

 

My guillotine and I cannot wait until the crash though.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:34 | 5711796 Jethro
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It's American politics...especially with our current 7th grade STUCO crew. They beat the hell out of any given dead horse...at least until the polls drop. Then they play victim (Bush did it!!!!), and it's off to mutilate the next carcass.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 15:41 | 5712238 Global Hunter
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"No matter how fucking ridiculous this shit gets, what boggles my mind is that they don't know when to quit."

I wondered if the Russians double crossed some agents and dangled some patsies in front of the Americans to look them look retarded when they publicized it. But the more I think about it, it is just ridiculous shit.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:20 | 5711714 Batman11
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Paranoia about "reds under the bed" is part of being American.

I check under my bed for Russian spies every night before I go to bed.

My wife is getting a little fed up as I have already accidently shot her several times.

But one can't be too careful.

 

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:22 | 5711750 RichardENixon
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Why is your wife under the bed with those Russian spies?

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:41 | 5711775 Batman11
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This is what makes me even more paranoid.

OK, it wasn't accidental.

 

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:47 | 5711880 thistooshallpass
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Rolling on the ground over here!! Lawd you kids are funny bastards.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:33 | 5711799 kchrisc
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Fear: Germans (WWII), Reds, Commies, Germans, Japs, Commies, Dominoes, al Qaeda, Terrorists, Fags, WMDs, "yellow-cake," Swine Flu, Ebola, ISIS, Muslims, blizzards, under inflated balls...

Not: Fraudulent-reserve banksters, the badged thug with a gun over there, drones, spying, Zion, thieves in flag pin adorned suits...

The banksters need to repay us.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:51 | 5711910 The_Dude
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But don't worry about the millions of illegals/psuedo-legals pouring in....they are just here to help undercut the labor market and consume what is left of the tax base.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 16:33 | 5712573 Oldrepublic
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Joseph MacCarthy would be so proud of you!

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 18:25 | 5713132 gcjohns1971
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I have family in Russia, you know.

You are not the only one with cold-war-nostalgia-itis.

I have been a financial support for almost all of them at one time or another.  I have also been a blood-crazed maniacal American Imperialist, a fine sober, fit, self-reliant, example of what a man should be - used to shame the Russian men in the family (Babushka 'Grandma' loves to do this), and the destroyer of everything good about the family and world society in general...

...and all I get to be all of those things most days before it is even breakfast!!!

It is like a white Tyler Perry movie.

The only thing I haven't gotten to be, which the in-law men never fail to note from the corners of their mouths with a chuckle, - is a womanizer.

Frankly, I suspect even the women think there is something strange about fidelity.

But though my wife is a doctor, I draw the line at Russian folk medicine.

I refuse to wrap my head in cabbage or to put potatos over my eyes to cure a headache!  Damn it!  A little pain is worth avoiding that!

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:20 | 5711734 dexter_morgan
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Yeah, its the Rooskies causing all that market instability - yeah, thats the ticket. Those bastards, better start a war with them or somethin.......

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:21 | 5711736 rwe2late
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 Am I mistaken,

or is the US government now claiming

that gathering public information (economic or other)

can now (wrongly I would think) be construed as "illegal spying"?

And the alleged "spying" to be selectively publicized and politicized?

 

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:40 | 5711839 kowalli
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police state - you must act as sheep or you are terrorist

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 15:01 | 5711970 rwe2late
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 Next logical (or illogical) step?

Prosecuting those who "supply" public information

to the alleged "spies" with "materially" aiding

"foreigners" and thereby directly and (especially) indirectly (no need for real proof)

supporting "terrorism" (as imaginatively defined for political purpose).

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 16:52 | 5712683 GoinFawr
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In Efrafa everyone can always be found guilty of breaking some rule or another, if you look closely enough.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 18:15 | 5713071 gcjohns1971
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The US government has construed to make anything potentially "Illegal Spying" or otherwise illegal.

That way they can pick and choose who to prosecute.

It is a way to allow bureaucrats to have defacto extra-judicial power while maintaining the illusion of an objective court.

Basically, they've made it illegal to be accused of a crime.  So it they accuse you of being accused of a crime, you are automatically guilty regardless of anything you actually did.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 20:47 | 5713707 Lumberjack
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Fuck, They gather private info on all of us including but not limited to, insider trading and it's legal for them somehow... Then a few days ago, a tiny UFO lands on the WH lawn with little green men inside...

 

Upon being captured by the S.S., a nearby witness heard them speaking a strange form of pig latin which loosely translates to: "Don't drone me bro",

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/expd/8794629983/

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:21 | 5711737 aleph0
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JUST PATHETIC ..... worse than the worst Teleprompting .

 

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:31 | 5711767 Jack Burton
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Here comes the Judge Ukraine! "

They are saying that Yuzhmash will be forced into bankruptcy, and its territory will be converted into shopping mall, an entertainment center, and housing for the elite.

Dnepropetrovsk experienced a protest by workers of the legendary Yuzhmash, the largest rocket enterprise in Ukraine. The workers, who have not gotten their salaries for several months"

The Russian market was Ukraine's sole major export market for high value goods. The Kiev Junta has cut all economic ties to the hated Moscow. So, one of Ukraine's largets High Teck manufacturing enterprises is now going under. Workers are fucked. Lot's more of this to come. Aircraft engine makers will go bankrupt. Large electrical enterprises bankrupt. All the military industrial contractors who worked on contract to Russia are closing. Ukraine's Junta will be the utter destruction of Ukraine as an economic entity.

"

The workers in their desperation came out into the main entryway with posters demanding the overdue salaries be paid and state orders resumed. The naivete of the second demand causes one to smile ironically. Hoping for state orders in a situation where the government is deliberately destroying machine-building and promoting deindustrialization in pursuit of the “eurointegration” mirage is entirely out of touch with reality."
Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:37 | 5711820 tired1
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Seems like NoKhazaria is in the works.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:42 | 5711848 tired1
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Let me add this, I know it's nowhere near complets:

 

A list of the so called nazi-regime in Kiev :

President - Poroshenko (Valtsman) - Jew. - and. o. President Turchinov (Kogan) - Jew. - Prime Minister - Yatsenyuk (Buckeye) - Jew. - The Minister of Finance - Alexander Shlapak- Jew. - Secretary of national security and Defence - Andrew Parubiy- Jew - Vice Prime Minister - Vladimir Groisman - a Jew. - Interior Minister Arsen Avakov - Armenian Jew - Minister of Culture - Sergei Nischuk - Jew, Mason - Director of the National Bank - Stepan Kubiv - Jew. - Head of the Administration of President - Sergey Pashinskiy- Jew. The main presidential candidates from the opposition: - Julia Tymoshenko (Celia Kapitelman) - Jewish. - Vitali Klitschko (Etinzon) - a Jew by his father. - Oleg Tyagnibok (Frotman) a Jew mom. - Dmitry (Avdimou) Yarosh-Jew Hasid. The oligarchs in Ukraine - all Jews: I. Kolomoisky, E. Hurwitz, H. Bogolyubov, Poroshenko, D. Firtash, S. Liovochkin, V. Haiduk, V.Nemirovsky, K. Zhevago, V. Pinchuk, E. Prutnik, Akhmetov, A. Martynov, B. Kostelman, E.Sigal, B. Kolesnikov, A. Feldman, F. Shpyg, N. Shufrych, Rodnyanskii A., I. Butler, A. Abdinov, V. Ermolaev, M. Kiperman, E. Zviagilskiy, F. Zhebrovskaya, S. Ronis, H. Korban, G. Surkis, I. Surkis, V. Shamotiy, A. Leszczynski, J. Rodin, M. Becker. All media - in the hands of Jews P. Poroshenko, I. Kolomoisky, D. Firtash, V. Pinchuk, Akhmetov. nezalezhnoy Presidents: - Kravchuk (Bloom) - a Jew. - Kuchma (Kuchman) - Jew.

 

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4046811478707691837&postID=3658...

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:50 | 5711901 aiaiai
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You are an anti-Semite. Huihuihuihuihuihuihuihui.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 16:29 | 5712547 tired1
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You're funny.

So who's your favorite bolshevik?

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 18:24 | 5713134 Jack Burton
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 Leon Trotsky!  Soldier of the revolution. Enforcer of a genocide against Orthdox Christian Russia. Trosky had no stake in Christian Russia, to him it got in the way of his brand of socialist rule fueled by a buring hate of christian Russia, and it's christian people.

Look it up! It's in the historical record.

Famine in Ukraine in the 20-30's, look up who was in charge of stealing peasants food and livestock. From Kiev and other major cities, look up who these people were. And they rampaged through all of rural Russia as well. Arresting farmers, sending them to death camps. An Icon in your home was enough to have you sent to a death camp. Once again, check into who led and participated. Lot's of dirty secrets some would like buried along with the millions of victims of this foreign ideology.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 21:08 | 5713820 tired1
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Sadly, my mother lived through Holodomor, as did many of her freinds whom I met and had some guarded discussions. It was dangerous  to speak too openly in the Home of the Free. Looking back on things I can see how dangerous it would have been to have frank talks with a youth growing up in the US about what happened in the Ukraine.

I grew up hating Stalin, nowadays I dont really have much energy for hate. I have spoken with several Russian expats who grew up in the later years of the USSR, they have a different perspective and I respect that. That having been said, I did delight in how Stalin finally arranged for an ice axe to be planted in Trotsky's head.

What can I say about Ukraine except that I see history rhyming.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 16:23 | 5712465 rwe2late
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tired1

Poroshenko is a member of the Ukraine Orthodox Church

Turchinov is a Protestant Baptist

Yatsenyuk is a Greek Catholic

...

I am NO fan of the Kiev coup government,

but your comment is full of

nothing but   lies

which only misdirects away from

any real understanding of the Ukraine turmoil.

 

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 17:17 | 5712811 tired1
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I stand corrected. Ukraine Presidential Frontrunner Petro Poroshenko and His Secret Jewish Roots 'Chocolate King's' Father Was Jew Who Took Wife's Name Read more: http://forward.com/articles/198758/ukraine-presidential-frontrunner-petro-poroshenko/?p=all#ixzz3Q3bpvgJ9 UKRAINE: Yatsenyuk capitalises on public discontent Born in Chernivtsi in 1974 to Jewish - Ukrainian parents, Arseniy Yatsenyuk founded and was affiliated with a local legal firm for most of the 1990s. http://www.taraskuzio.net/media18_files/105.pdf
Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:46 | 5711872 Sandmann
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Well it was German factories that moved to the USSR so I guess Ukrainian ones can go into Russia and boost the economy there. All Ukrainians will get Visa-Free access to the USA when congressional votes it through

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 15:41 | 5712243 rejected
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Another destroyed nation notch in the u.s gun belt.

How many nations is it now?

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 16:14 | 5712452 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Jack Burton, this is a bit off topic, but I was wondering if you saw this:

https://thedailyledeblog.wordpress.com/2015/01/26/english-speaking-merce...

English-speaking "outta my face, please" mercenary identified as Leon Swampy from London.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 17:08 | 5712751 smacker
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Well well.

Apparently Swampy's real life name is Chris Garrett from the Isle of Man: http://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/isle-of-man-news/charity-bombshell-for-li...

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 16:48 | 5712630 Oldrepublic
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I used to live in that part of the world, used to go shopping for vegetables in the local outdoor market, I was amazed to find unemployed nuclear physicists working there!

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:32 | 5711793 freedom123
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Let me see ... Putin is an ex-KGB agent and would it be possible that Putin regime spies on US.. hm...

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 15:04 | 5711981 Max Steel
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You hardly see anything except shit . Give it a rest .

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 21:53 | 5714046 tired1
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It would be irresponsible of him not to. So what?

Come on troll. you can do better.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:35 | 5711806 Mike Masr
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Isn't the Foreign Agents Regisitration Act (FARA) cited in Holder's complaint document the US law that Vladimir Putin used to model his law of the same name? Funny though when he did it the US media labelled it as, draconian, repressive, anti democratic and reminiscent of the cold war. LOL

First, some background supplied by the FEC: The goal of the 1966 Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) was to "minimize foreign intervention" in U.S. elections by establishing a series of limitations on foreign governments and nationals. In 1974, the prohibition was incorporated into the Federal Election Campaign Act (FECA), giving the FEC jurisdiction over its enforcement and interpretation.

 According to the FEC, FECA "prohibits any foreign national or government from contributing, donating or spending funds in connection with any federal, state, or local election in the United States, either directly or indirectly. It is also unlawful to help foreign nationals or governments violate that ban or to solicit, receive or accept contributions or donations from them. Persons who knowingly and willfully engage in these activities may be subject to fines and/or imprisonment."

 

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:39 | 5711818 Jethro
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....but it doesn't apply to the current administration, or the election of the current administration, because that'd be "raciss"

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 17:41 | 5712932 rwe2late
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 That part about "indirectly" aiding

others who may be also "indirectly" violating the ban

will getcha every time.

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:39 | 5711821 researchfix
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Far as i know, Russia is no more interested about US and EU.

They are waiting at their border for the first foot to show.

Business they do in the rest of the world. A big place.

 

 

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:40 | 5711826 Youri Carma
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Many Americans might assume the Russians were interested in destabilizing American markets, but “it might be the other way around, where they are concerned with us attacking them,” says Eric Hunsader, who runs Nanex, a market data firm that tracks high-speed trading.

From: FBI says Russian spies in NYC planned on using HFT to cause market crash http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/01/high-frequency-trading-russian-spies

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:41 | 5711851 silverer
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When you think about it, nearly everyone on Wall St. is a spy.  I think that the spies don't have to actually DO anything except listen.  My guess is that all they are they for is to listen to the gab.  To get a pulse on what the workers are thinking.  It's valuable when a guy with 20 years experience inside the markets gives his opinion and chit chats stuff to his co-workers.  They make remarks about what they think may happen.  It's actually telling you a lot.  My guess is Russia just wants to know as accurately as possible when the US is going to self-destruct, so they can time what they want to do on their end with their markets more accurately. 

Tue, 01/27/2015 - 14:44 | 5711857 Sandmann
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Matthew Rhys is so much more professional !

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