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Alexis Tsipras Most Outrageous Outburst Yet?

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Speaking in May 2014 (ahead of Ukraine's elections) new Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras made very clear why he is now against Germany's push for further sanctions against Russia.

Via VoR,

[The SYRIZA] party believes that the new government in Ukraine came to power as a result of a coup, and call it a junta.

 

h/t @Erula1

 

"We should not accept or recognize the government of neo-Nazis in Ukraine," the Athens News Agency quotes Tsipras who believes that the Ukrainian people should decide their future themselves.

 

Speaking about different peoples' movements for self-determination, Tsipras said that the European left respected the right to self-determination, but nationalism and clashes could not lead to positive results.

 

"We in the EU should not give preference to changing borders, but must respect the position of the peoples, who have decided to create a Federation within the state," said the SYRIZA leader.

Tsipras added,

the EU must change in order to survive; the EU lacks democracy, and citizens do not believe that their vote can change policy.

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Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:03 | 5720473 buzzsaw99
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I KNEW we couldn't get through the day without the word "nazi" coming out of his mouth. lolololololololol

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:13 | 5720514 silverer
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I guess you missed the well documented events and photos of the new Nazi party demonstrations that took place there.  Yes, they call themselves Nazis.  So Tsipras should call them what? Bishops and Cardinals?  https://consortiumnews.com/2014/03/30/ukraines-inconvenient-neo-nazis/

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:16 | 5720543 Arius
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neo nazis ----

walkuire?

haus?

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:22 | 5720568 Ian56
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Alexis Tsipras is absolutely correct:-

Planning for the February 2014 Coup D'Etat in Kiev started in March 2013 (or earlier).

This amazing speech (link below) in Ukraine's Rada (Parliament) details how 300 people, under the direction of the US Embassy in Kiev, were to mobilize and manipulate social media in order to provoke protests that would lead to a Coup to oust Yanukovych and then start a Civil War.

"MUST WATCH: Nov 2013 (pre-Maidan!): Ukraine Deputy has proof of USA staging civil war in Ukraine" http://youtu.be/y9hOl8TuBUM

How the February Coup in Kiev was plotted and arranged by the US - New Evidence http://ian56.blogspot.com/2015/01/how-february-coup-in-kiev-was-plotted....

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:21 | 5720590 maskone909
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Have you heard of the Greek version of Monopoly?

It's called Monopopolous, and you just borrow all the money from the bank. Everyone loses.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:24 | 5720599 Stackers
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Hope this guy doesn't own any nail guns

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:34 | 5720701 SuperRay
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I guess he could have called them Neo-cons. Not much difference

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:44 | 5720764 lordylord
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"citizens do not believe that their vote can change policy."

HA!  Welcome to democracy (i.e. mob rule).  Sucks to be the minority. 

Now only if the US was something more like a republic with some sort of document guaranteeing certain unalienable rights.  If only the founding fathers thought of that. 

I was educated in public school, so obviously I was taught to always go along with the group no matter what.  That way you are never in the minority!!!

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:16 | 5720969 Haus-Targaryen
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If I didn't have a hard-on for this guy before -- 

When does he and Vlad start wrestling bears together?  

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:43 | 5721039 Manthong
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Oh, gosh..
Finally.. a crack in the financier fortress wall.

Cradle of democracy – meet red shield.

 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 15:03 | 5721214 N. B. Forrest
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Who gave this guy permission to speak the truth?

This is going to be fun watching him.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 15:47 | 5721452 winchester
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if this guy is still alive in 2 years, i eat my hat.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 16:48 | 5721842 The Big Ching-aso
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This guy has a pair of Greek balls the size of Lesbos.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 17:38 | 5722110 wallstreetapost...
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I suggest that everyone goes to Athens.  Their Neo-Nazi and Communist parties are a joke.  Yeah they demonstrate with flags hung on big sticks (beating sticks for protests) but they are so minimal in numbers.  I was in the middle of a demonstration at the Parliment in 2013 and both parties were completely consumed by the syriza party supporters.  The masses have spoken, albeit believing all the BS. 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 17:44 | 5722136 Manthong
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ok.. maybe...

http://i.imgur.com/oTM6eGY.jpg

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 17:46 | 5722157 actionjacksonbrownie
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You guys are salivating over the prospects of hope and change, however Greece just voted to extend sanctions against Russia until September.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 18:31 | 5722405 mickeyman
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Regime change coming . . .

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 23:40 | 5723589 TheReplacement
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I hope you enjoyed the Zapruder film. 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:17 | 5720985 Mountainview
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The Azov batallion is fighting on Ukraine side with Nazi insignia. Kiev didn't move to stop this. The same for the "Right Sector". So Tsipras is outspoken but not totally wrong.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:23 | 5721014 BlindMonkey
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"not totally wrong"

 

Odessa massacre, bombing civilians with cluster bombs, incendiaries, and short range ballistic missiles, rape and torture.  

 

I think he was 100% on point.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:38 | 5721079 SamAdams
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And Azov is financed by Kolomoisky, an AshkeNAZI Jew, who is also the leader of the Jewish Council in Ukraine....  These so called "Jews", always project their crimes on others.  Note that Hitler never referred to himself as a nazi.  That term was coined by an outside influence.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 16:43 | 5721816 strannick
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Well, yes the Ukranians are surely neo Nazis, but saying that to the MSMedia is something different altogether

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 20:53 | 5722931 Jerome Lester H...
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“The National Socialist Party will prevent in the future, by force if necessary, all meetings and lectures which are likely to exercise a depressing influence on the German state"
Adolph Hitler commenting on the Nazi party as it's leader

"The greatest revolution which National Socialism (Nazism) has brought about is that it has rent asunder the veil which hid from us the knowledge that all human failures and mistakes are due to the conditions of the time and therefore can be remedied, but that there is one error which cannot be remedied once men have made it, namely the failure to recognize the importance of conserving the blood and the race free from intermixture and thereby the racial aspect and character which are God's gift and God's handiwork."
Adolph Hitler

"As Fuehrer of the German people and Chancellor of the Reich, I can thank God at this moment that he has so wonderfully blessed us in our hard struggle for what is our right, and beg Him that we and all other nations may find the right way, so that not only the German people but all Europe may once more be granted the blessing of peace."
Adolph Hitler speech before the Reichstag, 6 October 1939.

Make no mistake about it. Hitler from the begining saw himself as the leader of the Nazi party regardless of whether or not he ever was directly quoted as saying "I am a Nazi". To be it's leader he would by definition be a self aware member. As his megalomania grew so did his inflated self image to become Fuehrer and Chancellor of the Third Reich, Supreme Judge of the German People, Leader of the Greater German Empire and other grand self proclaimed titles. To be fair, Nazism was the vehicle that allowed him to drive and fulfill his despotic, megalomaniacal aims and if there were never such a thing as Nazism or National Socialism, Hitler would have had little hesitation to use a different political vehicle such as Communism or Fascism to further his personal desires. But to say Hitler never called himself a Nazi is splitting hairs over something about which there can be no doubt...namely, Hitler was a Nazi!

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 01:06 | 5723788 MontgomeryScott
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"...something about which there can be no doubt...namely, Hitler was a Nazi!"

Oh, you FOOL!

Hitler was NOT an AshkeNAZIm.

He was dupe of the National Duetchland Socialist Workers' Party.

JFK HIMSELF declared that 'HE WAS A BERLINER'. Was JFK a NAZI, as well? MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT, your bullshit 'argument' holds NO WATER.

 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 15:49 | 5721460 Mountainview
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"Dniepr-1" is another one of these independent batallions and then there is this strange situation in Charkiv. There the local oligarch is in charge of everything.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:59 | 5720875 Grimaldus
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Progressives are in charge dude, not stupid neo-cons(who are really just progressives anyways)and the Ukraine thing was orchestrated by progressive criminals infesting the FEDGOV. Is it any wonder the people that were installed into the Ukraine Gov are fellow travelers in murdering tyranny Nazis?

FOAD bloody murdering progressive scum.

Grimaldus

 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:21 | 5720997 Abitdodgie
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So Nazi America instaled a Nazi junta in Ukraine , well there is a turn up for the book's

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 20:09 | 5722779 scrappy
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I saw an old nazi once at a gas station. He had a dog in the back of his car at the pump. When the dog saw me it rushed the back window of the car, and slobbered on it with  teeth bared. Crazy nazi dog, seriously. I went into pay fo my gas and the old bald headed beedy eyed mf says to me, "you're a slob." That's what these types think of us, and this was well before the overweight norm we see today. I am not overweight, nor have ever been, but am a casual person dressed, jeans, t-shirt, simple. Anyway, that day I KNEW, we gave refuge to such scum.

Most people do not want this in America, and that sentiment is what we must cater to if we want a decent society.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 01:16 | 5723806 MontgomeryScott
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So Nazi America instaled a Nazi junta in Ukraine ,

well there is a turn up for the book's

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Thu, 01/29/2015 - 17:12 | 5721985 Earl Slaughter-...
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I'm not sure if it's a question that bears more emphisis towards politics or psychology, but the authoritarians have been in charge for a long time now...

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 16:54 | 5721882 Fun Facts
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The New Greek Government is on ZWO suiciding watch.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:36 | 5723723 MontgomeryScott
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@ SuperRay:

If you listen to FOOLS, the MOB RULES!

A little 'Heavy Metal' melody for you;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXl9mkRxPTg

An ASHKENAZIM or a KHAZARIM, by any other name, would smell as sweet (as a Neo-Con or a Neo-Lib, that landed in a pile of shit and followed the 'CYA' thingie that the CIA does; as it does SO WELL), ad infinitum, forever and ever, AMEN!, all praise to THE ETERNAL BOMB; the LIFE-BRINGER! Let us now reveal our TRUE NATURE to our GOD!

The Neocon Johnny ('Songbird') MCcain (or his daddy, the Admiral) might disagree with your argument, though.

 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:48 | 5720802 KnuckleDragger-X
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Yeah, he's going out and looking for nailguns.....

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:47 | 5721137 frankly scarlet
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Yes, too much truth in one day is said to be dangerous to one's health according to TPTB.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:47 | 5720784 Ian56
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The Greek version of monopoly also did not have the Super Tax or Income Tax squares. They were replaced by the following:

If you own more than 5 hotels have another billion.

If you have have less than $100,000 you forfeit all your money and spend the rest of the game in jail.

Syriza have proposed the original rules of the game are to be reinstated.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:27 | 5721018 F0ster
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The Greek version of Manopoly only has three players, the Troika, the Greek people just watch the game. Putin will now force the Troika back to his chess game.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 20:41 | 5722873 Mine Is Bigger
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You still don't understand how the game works. "The Bank" won't lose. Money is the shell game. The real prize is assets.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 17:06 | 5721947 Perimetr
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Would that we had a government here that said the same thing.

 

Just the opposite, it is the US neo-Nazis that support, fund, and arm the neo-Nazis in Kiev.   US weapons are killing Eastern Ukrainian civilians, while US neocon-Nazi ideologues scream about "Russian agression".

 

This will lead to nuclear war.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 17:08 | 5721950 Radical Marijuana
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Indeed, Ian56, we have reached the point where when an elected leader of a NATO country states some of the obvious facts, that could be labelled as an outrageous outburst.

The most outrageous outbursts of bullshit that I am aware of are made by the "leaders" of these NATO countries: the USA, UK, Australia and Canada, because those are buried the deepest in the Anglo-American (Zionist) Empire.

As George Charlin once stated it,

"Germany may have lost the Second World War, but the fascists won."

Greece was one of the countries hit by Operation Gladio, decades ago, which may have contributed to enough of the Greek people getting enough up to speed to begin to somewhat understand what has been really going on?

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 17:25 | 5722050 Chupacabra-322
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May I suggest you search engine Operation Gladio B via Sibel Edmonds.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 22:08 | 5722960 TeethVillage88s
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RT Just announced Responsible Body Armour Possession Law re-announced as ban on Certain Body Armour. US Congress.

Type III, Vests, Helmets, & Shields. Non-Police Officers including Journalists are prohibited.

Apparently was tried in previous year.

=

wow.

"28:51 His main task under NATO was operation Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan. There were three or four countries that he directed the Turkish paramilitary Gladio operations in those countries. Lo and behold, the same man — this is documented — he is pulled out of his position and immediately sent to a base in Germany — this is American military base — and from there to Brussels. Hah! This is interesting!"

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 22:44 | 5723341 Radical Marijuana
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Yes, Chupacabra-322: Gladio B is "projecting U.S. power in the former Soviet sphere of influence to access previously untapped strategic energy and mineral reserves for U.S. and European companies; pushing back Russian and Chinese power; and expanding the scope of lucrative criminal activities, particularly illegal arms and drugs trafficking."

Those sort of things are pretty well universal historical constants, since they work. Here is a recent BBC article, which is biased by listing the ways that Russia has used deception during warfare, while omitting to point out that the British Empire did similar things: http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31020283

Although one can intellectually imagine psychopathic mass murderers, personally I continue to not really be able to understand them! For instance, the most spectacular symbol, so far, were the events on 9/11/2001. Although I can intellectually understand that as a very successful, inside job, false flag attack, I can still not fully imagine being able and willing to mass murder thousands of people.

I can comprehend in an abstract way that some people would use terrorism as a political tactic to kill large number of people they do not know. However, I can not emotionally understand being willing and able to mass murder people for fun and profit. I can understand that warfare is successfully backing up lies with violence. However, I can not personally imagine engaging in the levels of deceits and destruction that could lead to the mass murder millions or billions of people. But nevertheless, it certainly appears we are on that path towards those phenomena in the future, because false flag terrorism continues to be a very successful strategy.

 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 23:54 | 5723620 YHC-FTSE
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Thank you all on this most interesting thread. I was under the mistaken impression that Operation Gladio was merely the small echoes of the cold war localized in Italy. The video link for Sibel Edmonds on Gladio B,( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AARtO88G5Ag ) was an incredible eye opener. Speechless.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 04:01 | 5724024 Ghordius
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YHC-FTSE, your impression was not mistaken. Operation Gladio and Operation Gladio B are two different operations, with a different set of operatives and goals

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 18:38 | 5722399 nicxios
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"Germany may have lost the Second World War, but the fascists won."

Yep. See how Churchill took the Nazi collaborators and along with British troops unleashed them on Athens, to fight the people who were their allies and liberated Greece from Nazi Germany!

This unleashed the civil war, right after the ravages of WWII. People who fought the nazis and lost so much for their country, the very next days were enemies to be tortured and killed themselves. Greece never dealt with this betrayal, and never really recovered from it.

Those Golden Dawn idiots? They are the descendants of the Nazi collaborators who were given posts in government and state agencies instead of executed and buried.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/30/athens-1944-britains-dirty-...

At battle’s peak, Glezos says, the British even set up sniper nests on the Acropolis. “Not even the Germans did that. They were firing down on EAM targets, but we didn’t fire back, so as not [to harm] the monument.”

Like true fascists...

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 22:52 | 5723377 Treason Season
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More or less the same treatment for Italy, Spain and France,et. al.  backstabing the partisans.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 03:39 | 5723970 Againstthelie
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Islamic extremists are not supported because TPTB are Islamic extremists!They are supported to commit terroris acts to profit from the reaction.

Saddam Hussein was not supported because the White House was following the Baath-ideology! He later was not killed, because they are democrats.

The Nazis after the war were not used, because Churchill or the US was fascist! They had knowledge about superior technology.

The Rothchild who was sent to Paris was that a Frenchman? The one sent to England a Brit? The one sent to Germany a German?!

Jesus, your understanding of politics and how TPTB are using all kinds of political forces to steer nations and people against each other is non-existant.

 

Someone mentioned Gladio. It's not about Gladio, it's about the PRINCIPLE behind Gladio! A secret group that supported terrorists to blame it on the politicial opponent. The same was done with the support of the RAF and currently with the NSU, the "National Socialist Underground" in Merkel's Germany! When the alleged killings of the NSU happened, their agent was present. Event he Turkish secret service seems to be involved. The NSU-Nazis were the tool and when it deemed opportunistic, the group was "caught" and they "committed suicide".

And all you do is cry: Nazi, Nazi, Nazi? Jesus.

ps: did you notice the fine detail that Golden Dawn "idiots" are being prosecuted and jailed by the regime, while left extremist Syriza is untouched? Remember how the international bankers allied with Stalin to defeat the NATIONAL idea? Soros loves international socialists. But he fears the Greeks that want to be souvereign and not being ruled by Jews.

Oh and btw: Golden Dawn did call the Ukrainian pseudo Nazis tools of the Jews and idiots. Interesting: while Golden Dawn is being jailed and prosecuted (because it seems is not controlled opposition but an authentic national and socialist force), your Ukrainian "Nazis" witht heir Jewish bosses are welcome partners for the EUSSR... Just like Barroso, the Maoist, a fan of the biggest mass murderer in history, was welcome to be the EU's head. Western values you know...

It's really not that complicated and the game has been explained to the Germans a long time ago:

 

When i came to power, i took over a nation which was a democracy. Indeed, as long as Germany was a democracy we saw that everyone in the world came to their help and aid. Yes, the German people used to live in a democracy, and had been plundered and squeezed dry. No, what does democracy or authoritarian state mean for those INTERNATIONAL HYENAS? They're not interested in either!

They are only interested in one thing: Is anyone willing to let themselfes be plundered, yes or no? Is anyone stupid enough to keep quiet in the process, yes or no? And when a democracy is stupid enough to keep quiet, then it is good! And when a authoritarian government declares: "You do not plunder our people any longer neither from the inside or outside, " then that is bad.

 

If we, as a so called "authoritarian state", which differs from the democracies by having the people behind them -  (applause) If we as an authoritarian state had also complied with all the sacrifices that the INTERNATIONAL PLUTOCRATS burdened us with; if I had said in 1933, "Esteemed Sirs in Geneva what would you have me to do?" "Aha! We will immediately write on the slate: 6 billions for 1933, 1934, 1935, excellent, we will deliver! Is there anything else you would like? Yes, ofcourse, Sir, we will also deliver that!" Then they would have said: "At last a sensible regime in Germany."

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:31 | 5720672 walküre
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takes one to know one

Arschloch

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:06 | 5720925 Haus-Targaryen
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Tell you what -- why don't you take a ride on my train and find out? 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:35 | 5721080 Spitzer
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iNCOMING PROOF US STAGED THE COUP AND CIVIL WAR

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&x-yt-ts=1422503916...

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 19:13 | 5722544 YHC-FTSE
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Thanks for the video link mate. I saw someone mention "TechCamp" in regards to the coup last year and didn't know anything about it then. You would think somebody, anybody, just one bloody msm journalist would have picked this up by now, but they are ALL collectively telling lies daily about Ukraine. I thought it would have been impossible a few years ago, but the entire news industry is effectively gagged and servile to the interests of the zionists.

Igor Kolomoisky, the Israeli oligarch recently appointed by Kiev to be the governor of Dnepropetrovsk and allegedly responsible for the mass murders in Odessa and Mariupol has put a $1 million bounty for the head of Oleg Tsarev, the guy speaking in the video in front of the Ukraine parliament in 2013. Kolomoisky also mentioned that he is going to have his people hunt down and kill Tsarev's family too. Nice people, those zionists.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 03:53 | 5724012 Againstthelie
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It's heart breaking to see how helpless the Ukrainian government was, but it's not a proove.

That's a proove:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IShbhepwieA

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 15:12 | 5721262 SmittyinLA
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chumps 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:19 | 5723022 TeethVillage88s
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No. But Try this:

- In the News today:

- VIDEO: Code Pink Tries to Arrest 91-Year-Old Kissinger for 'War Crimes'...
- Get Smacked Down by 94-Year-Old George Shultz...
- MCCAIN: 'Get out of here, you low-life scum'...

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:25 | 5720561 Renfield
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Tspiras is completely correct. I am impressed with his courage and honesty in his statement.

Like it or not, it is time to face an evil force that has been quietly growing since the days of Bretton Woods, and call its tentacles by their true names. I think a demarcation is becoming clear to informed observers. We are in a WORLD currency war and there is no "can't we all just get along" when war has already been joined. It is time to begin drawing lines, and I'm not speaking of red lines in sand, but real moral limits. This evil force has destroyed many once-thriving economies, and in the next few years many more will be pauperised by this same force. It is time for countries to TAKE BACK their sovereignty, and that means calling the Nazis, usurpers, war criminals, population destabilisers, banksters, carpet-baggers, etc., just what they are.

The Ukraine Junta is unmistakably neo-Nazi. That there are other parties involved is also true, but to ignore the Nazi presence is to allow them to continue to grow and spread chaos under the publicity radar. It is most definitely time for that shield of ignorance to fall.

That democracy has little to no presence in today's EU (and in other "western" economies) is also very true. Thank you for speaking truth, Mr. Tspiras.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:30 | 5720663 SickDollar
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dude be cAREFUL WITH THE NAIL GUNS AND DONT FLY TO GERMANY

 

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:42 | 5723735 MsCreant
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Dudette, you SickDollar you.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:43 | 5723736 MsCreant
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Dudette.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:09 | 5720940 TeethVillage88s
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Trying to match your theme on Evil. Our Model of Big Organizations either public or private must change. Everything is incorporated today of course even governments. The problems seems to center on growth, success and how we measure it, that no growth is too much, that no organization can become too powerful. We like power in the USA. We do everything big. And our people face a complex world with more debt and more expenses as cost go up. People will do anything to keep their jobs, get a new career, keep their reputation, and whistleblowing and free speech are sacrificed.

But working for company Share Price, and Mission, Objectives, and Goals... means that Ethos is lost to all. And the Salaries of our best entertainers, sports players and executives are unbounded. At some point everyone must see that unlimited compensation for executives is Looting. Perhaps this is related to the Banker Suicides. Killing off the competition or killing off the people with loose lips that sink ships. And why do corporations have no connection to the community, country, or humanity?? One of their strategies is to crush pensions and let go loyal employees.

- Here is a look at Corporate and Banking power

- 1791, First Amendment Ratified
- 1886, Corporate Personhood suggested
- 1900s when US started Depending on Outsourced Produce
- 1942, Office of Strategic Services (OSS) created
- 1947, National Security Act of 1947 established the CIA
- 1960, when US started Outsourcing Auto Factories
- 1963, John F. Kennedy Assassinated, Warren Commission
- 1968, Robert F. Kennedy Assassinated
- 1968, Martin Luther King, Jr. Assassinated
- 1968, when Costs of Vietnam War became Obvious Problem
- 1969, Private Foundations Defined for IRS Tax Purposes
- 1971, Nixon Shock, US Refuses to convert USD to Gold for Foreign Holders of USD
- 1971, War on Drugs
- 1971, Lewis Power Memo on Foundations
- 1972, BCCI Bank created
- 1972, Watergate Scandal, with ties to CIA
- 1973, Family Jewels Reports commissioned about CIA
- 1974, CIA Slapped with Investigations of Practices, they decide to Outsource & Subcontract (Church Committee, Nedzi Committee, Pike Committee
- 1975, Rockefeller Commission to investigate CIA Activities within the USA
- 1978, Soviet-Afghanistan War Starts
- 1979, the Top of US Manufacturing
- 1979, when US Median Wages got Stuck or leveled out
- 1980, Presidential Campaign, Debt, Economy, Inflation, Iran
- 1980, George H.W. Bush former Director CIA chosen as Vice President
- 1981, the Top of US Money (MZM) Velocity
- 1982, Ronald Reagan Maxes out DoD Budget
- 1982, CIA Begins using BCCI Bank
- 1984, Sentencing Reform Act (SRA), Longer Sentences
- 1986, DoD Contractors Soar with profits & plans
- 1990, Start of US Gulf War with Iraq, US & UK will Bomb Iraq for the next 13 years till US-Iraq War II
- 1994, NAFTA Treaty,
- 1995, Sub-prime mortgages started
- 1995, Community Reinvestment Act, the Clinton Admin urged flexibility,
- 1995, HUD advocated greater involvement of state and local organizations
- 1996, Start of a Period of Accounting Fraud in USA which continues today
- 1997, M2 Money Velocity Top
- 1998, Brooksly Born Rejected on her concerns on OTC Derivatives
- 1998, Derivatives expanded and were not regulated
- 1998, Clinton's Kosovo War
- 1998, Citicorp & Travelers Insurance Merger
- 1999, Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act (GLBA), End of Glass Steagal Act
- 2001, 911, Hijacked Airplanes flown into buildings, bld 7 federal records and banking data lost
- 2001, US-Afghan War
- 2002, McCain–Feingold Act (G.W. Bush, Campaign Finance, soft money unlimited)
- 2003, US-Iraq War
- 2005, CAFTA-DR Related Progression
- 2005, US Mortgage Top of Bubble
- 2008, US-Global Financial Crisis
- 2010, PPACA, ACA, Obama Care Passed
- 2012, Existing Home Sales finally return to USA
- 2013, IRS Budget exceeds $100 Billion since it now pays out cash to households as Credits
- 2013, Corporate Income Taxes Receipts still fail to return to 2006, 2007, or 2008 pre-crash Level of over $330 Billion

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:16 | 5720974 Karl von Bahnhof
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What? Is he crazy? What will be next? Will he tell us that 911 was inside job?
/sarc

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:59 | 5721195 Falconsixone
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Words on paper won't stop people from wiping there ass with it then starting a fire with it.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:43 | 5723738 MontgomeryScott
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@ Renfield:

I didn't know that Ron Paul had expatriated.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:20 | 5720570 wesson
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If Tsypras redo the same statement now, tanks in 30 minutes

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 16:52 | 5721876 Chupacabra-322
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"The new government is aware of its weakness. The new prime minister says that he does not want confrontation, but that the new government cannot continue the kowtowing of previous Greek governments. A reasonable accommodation must be reached.

Accommodation is unlikely to occur, because a reasonable accommodation is not the desire of Washington, the EU, or of Greece’s creditors.

A purpose of the “Greek financial crisis” is to establish that EU members are not sovereign countries and that banks that lend to these non-sovereign entities are not responsible for any losses with regard to the loans. The population of the indebted countries are the responsible parties. And these populations must accept the reduction of their living standards in order to ensure that the banks do not lose any money.

This is the “New Democracy.” It is a resurrection of the old feudal order. A few super-rich aristocrats and everyone else serfs obliged to support the ruling order. The looting that began in Greece has spread into Ukraine, and who knows who is next?

With only 37% of the vote, does Syriza have the clout to stand up for Greece against the looters?
Can Greece escape from a situation comparable to the European Dark Ages when populations were ravaged by marauding raiders? Perhaps if Greece realigns with Russia and gains financing from BRICS."

-Dr. Paul Craig Roberts

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:54 | 5720854 HardAssets
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Notice conditioning at work. Terms like 'Nazi, 'racist', 'global warming', etc trigger an automatic response. Immediately shut down critical thinking & any curiosity to dig deeper into a subject. (Like Pavlov's dogs salivating when a bell was rung.)
I've observed this behavior many times when saying something 'controversial'. I thought people would respond & that I could provide evidence to support my view. I thought it would be an opportunity to have a conversation, an exchange of ideas. But, usually they say nothing & just try to change the subject to something safe, but pointless.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:23 | 5721008 Implied Violins
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You just rang my bell, and now I'm frothing at the mouth. Tsipras is calling out the Ukinazis to ally himself with the rational-seeming Ruskies/BRICS and firing a shot across the bow of the west. Setting himself up as one of the 'good guys.' Look behind the curtain people; this straw man is working with the wizard and his heart, mind, and courage are all coldly calculated...

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 15:27 | 5721349 worbsid
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You don't know Greeks.  An independant bunch at best.  Remember Leonedias when told to throw down their weapons and live.  He said "Come and get them"; "Molan Labe".  It means more to them than to us.  The nature of "Give me liberty or give me death." Is long gone in the US. God help us.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 16:16 | 5721626 Spanky
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A little early for that judgment isn't it?

Not "everything" is a conspiracy.

We've read his words. Now, let's watch his deeds.

Then damn him, or applaud his courage, as the case may be...

How terribly subjective of us all... don't you agree?

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:49 | 5723754 MontgomeryScott
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O.K. 'Implied Violins'.

 

Let's see YOUR solution from the political/financial wisdom that YOU have ammassed; for the 'Greek Issue'.

SURELY, with such words that you speak, YOU have the REAL solution!

"Tsipras is calling out the Ukinazis to ally himself with the rational-seeming Ruskies/BRICS and firing a shot across the bow of the west."

What the fuck does THIS statement actually mean?

I'm calling YOU OUT, to present a solution. Let's all SEE what you propose, you couch-potato financial/political genius.


Thu, 01/29/2015 - 15:26 | 5721336 motorollin
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So, about those flat footballs...

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 17:44 | 5722079 JuliaS
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The reason Hitler is the biggest boogeyman in modern society is because he killed bankers en masse and confiscated their assets. It just happened that most capital owners in post-Weimar Germany were Jews who bought up everything for pennies following the hyperinflationary crisis. The investors were made up of domestic population who kept money in precious metals instead of Deutschmarks and foreign capitalists, who rushed in from places as far away as United States throughout 30's to take advantage of cheap labor and high industrialization.

The reason Hitler is despised is because the modern world is, just like Germany back then, is owned by bankers. And just like in those days, many bankers, media moguls and foreign investors have ties to same 100+ year old organizations that Hitler tried to wipe out in order to take control of the land.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:08 | 5720944 Againstthelie
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The Right Sector and Svoboda have recanted anti-Semitism and declared to be in support of Jews. They have Jews among their leaders. No follower of Adolf Hitler would allow that. It's sad, that Tsipras, who so far has been doing an excellent job, can't refrain fromt he old communist reflexes to project everything evil into Nazism, although the international hyenas use all political forces as they deem useful for their agenda.

Ukraine's Yatsenuk is a Jew. Ukraine has been taken over by Zionists and is controlled by Oligarchs and the country is being sold to New York. Currently the coal mines are already being "privatized".

If in Ukraine National Socialists would be in power, they would REMOVE the Jews from power and the influence of the international banksters.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:18 | 5720980 angel_of_joy
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They could call themselves whatever they want. Talk is cheap. It's their ACTIONS that define them...

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:31 | 5721034 Againstthelie
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Correct. And the actions are, that Ukraine has a ZOG, is sold to the international high finance and the NWO while National Socialism fought these internationalists and the golden and red internationalists in New York and Moscow even openly ALLIIED to fight the NATIONAL idea.

 

 

When i came to power, i took over a nation which was a democracy. Indeed, as long as Germany was a democracy we saw that everyone in the world came to their help and aid. Yes, the German people used to live in a democracy, and had been plundered and squeezed dry. No, what does democracy or authoritarian state mean for those INTERNATIONAL HYENAS? They're not interested in either!

They are only interested in one thing: Is anyone willing to let themselfes be plundered, yes or no? Is anyone stupid enough to keep quiet in the process, yes or no? And when a democracy is stupid enough to keep quiet, then it is good! And when a authoritarian government declares: "You do not plunder our people any longer neither from the inside or outside, " then that is bad.

If we, as a so called "authoritarian state", which differs from the democracies by having the people behind them -  (applause) If we as an authoritarian state had also complied with all the sacrifices that the INTERNATIONAL PLUTOCRATS burdened us with; if I had said in 1933, "Esteemed Sirs in Geneva what would you have me to do?" "Aha! We will immediately write on the slate: 6 billions for 1933, 1934, 1935, excellent, we will deliver! Is there anything else you would like? Yes, ofcourse, Sir, we will also deliver that!" Then they would have said: "At last a sensible regime in Germany."

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 17:14 | 5722001 The_Prisoner
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Boom! +1

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 15:25 | 5721341 Onan_the_Barbarian
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The bosses are Jews, but it seems like the foot soldiers for these guys are a mix of Ukranian uber-patriots and Swastika-flying-no-kidding-actual-Nazis. 

The only thing they hate more more than the Jews are the Russians.

But if the Russians continue to give them trouble, they'll turn on a dime and head to Kiev.

 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 16:59 | 5721812 Againstthelie
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The bosses are Jews but they are Nazis? LOL. Don't you think that's a slight contradiction in itself? Either they are followers of Adolf Hitler, then at least they must know the 25 points of the NSDAP, they should have read (and understood!) his book Mein Kampf, know what his mission for Germany really was and must understand why he tried to remove the Jewish influence on Germany. Or they have not understood it and accept Jewish bosses and Israelis on Maidan. But then they cannot be followers of Adolf Hitler and therefore cannot be Nazis.

Every idiot can use any flag. So what does that say? It are the actions that count. And their actions are, that they are fighting under Jewish bosses for a illegitimate ZOG that is selling the nation's resources to the international hyenas. These are not "Nazis", these are not even nationalists, because nationalists would not support a government that acts for foreign interests. IMO these are just chauvinists and reactionaries that hate Russia and Russians.

Ukrainians never had a state. Because of this they tend to show an exaggerated nationalism. Additionally there was the huge genocide of the Holodomor under Soviet occupation, with more victims than even the Holohoax numbers. Not one murder has been prosecuted. And what did Putin do to unite the collapsing country? He revived Russian patriotism as shield. And what was closer to connect to the myth of the Great Patriotic War and of the Red Army as liberator from foreign occupation? A very logical move from the Russians. But also a very offending move against the Ukrainians that had lost millions of their grandparents in this real holocaust.

It's logical that this created tensions and problems. But should the Ukrainians forget the killing of their grandparents, without even a word of sorrow? While Russia protects the murderers? How would you feel?

And on the other hand: what should Russia do since it was being encircled? Should Putin begin a discussion about the Bolshevik Army and that it wasn't a Russian army? Weaken the nation when it needs to become stronger? Should he begin a discussion, that the Russians were controlled by Jewish Bolshevism and it's victims, too and so destroying the myth of the Red Army, while NATO was expanding? Begin a discussion that the huge myth of the Red Army as liberator was nothing but a lie? In a situation where the multiethnic Russia is facing tremendous threats? Not possible.

The time to become reconciled with the Ukrainians existed only for a short time and during that time Putin had to get Russia back on it's feet and fight hard to get the Russian resources and it's country back under Russian control. There was not really the time and chance to begin a reconciliation, because as soon as he began to rebuild Russia, the City and New York began it's encirclement.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 16:33 | 5721753 Spanky
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You say potatoe,

I say potato...

What's the difference, except overt and vicious anti-semitism?

The tactics of oppression are the same...

the insane lust for "control" of "profits" by "growth" ad infinitum

by neurotic and obsessive Oligarchs.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 20:02 | 5722765 TeethVillage88s
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Hillary: What difference does it make if the are Nazis!!

- Hillery should stand down and go back to defending social issues as an activist mot a politician. I'm just saying, we have had enough Clintons & Bushs

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 16:19 | 5721658 markovchainey
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Illinois Nazis...I hate Illinois Nazis...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktmNEWwH69s

 

 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 16:24 | 5721694 my_nym
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Nazis being led by Jews after the "Communists"/Jewish Bolsheviks carried out the Holodomor in their nation, interesting world.  There again, if they were real antisemitic Nazis then wouldn't they do something about who is leading them politically and stop attending meetings with Victoria Nuland and so forth?

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:11 | 5720516 Pooper Popper
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We have a dead man walking here,,,dead man walking,,,we got a dead man walking here,,,,,,

 

watch your back ,the cia assassins are on their way....

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:16 | 5720552 franzpick
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Alexis: Keep your enemies close, and your bodyguards closer.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:25 | 5720626 Stumpy4516
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What others have found, including JFK.  Is that by threatening to blow the whistle and to expose the truth but remaining silent you get assasinated in cleaver ways or if low enough just made to look like a random killing (or like you went to sleep in front of a train). 

Others should take note.  If you are a high enough official you need to be very public.  Maybe it's not yet time but he also needs to openly point out the terrorism and murders by the CIA after WWII and also identify others in more recent years assasinated but covered up.

All info and thoughts should also be put on video, multiple copies and hidden away.

What most people miss is the simple fact that you cannot change the current situation from within the accepted system. You must speak the raw truth, and he may be building up steam (which does make him a target to be silenced before he brings out too much). 

But people like the bankers who might pose a threat and are killed to be safe, people tend to keep quiet or wait for an "official" forum to disclose a small part of the info..  Maybe is some of those bankers simply put all the documents and info they have across the internet they would have been discredited and only their careers assasinated.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:27 | 5720637 Renfield
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Your comment covers it all. +++

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:37 | 5720699 giovanni_f
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Mossad will accomplish this, Netanyahu will blame Iran.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:38 | 5720725 Uncertain T
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I'm sensing a  'color revolution' in 3...2...1

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:50 | 5723152 MS7
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They apparently even have a party in the waiting for that revolution, a ridiculous party called the river party. It's funded by a Greek oligarch. The EU parliament president, who visited Athens today, expressed his displeasure that Syriza didn't form a coalition government with the river party.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:12 | 5720530 Bill of Rights
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Day? Just take a look at the White House its been full of Nazi's for a long time.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:15 | 5720548 Sandmann
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watch Iron Sky

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:18 | 5720560 Headbanger
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Love that film!

Iron Sky II is on the way soon too!

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:51 | 5720818 KnuckleDragger-X
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The second looks to be even stranger than the first, need to get my copy out and watch it again.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:13 | 5720531 Arius
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.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:15 | 5720551 junction
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Alexis Tsipras's deal with the Russians will have other EU hangers on jumping ship shortly, to get in line for their share of Russian largesse.
Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:01 | 5720903 HardAssets
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Wanna really piss someone off?

Lease the Russkie navy a Greek port.

It would be hilarious to hear all the double-speak about how this would threaten NATO and U.S. vital interests. (Do what we say, not what we do.)

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:18 | 5720563 SofaPapa
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"I KNEW we couldn't get through the day..."

Please note this quote is from May, 2014.  It'll be interesting to see two things: one, what they say now that they are the official government of Greece, and two, any actions they actually take based on their position.  Jury's still out here.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:23 | 5720594 Renfield
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Good catch. I did not notice that. You are right, what he says and does while IN power is where the rubber meets the road.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:18 | 5720566 Larry Dallas
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Please meet Archduke Ferdinand...

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:44 | 5720783 Monty Burns
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It's called Goodwin's Law.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:00 | 5720880 Renfield
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No, it isn't.

<<Godwin's law (or Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies)[1][2] is an Internet adage asserting that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1"[2][3]—? that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler or Nazism. Promulgated by American attorney and author Mike Godwin in 1990,[2] Godwin's Law originally referred, specifically, to Usenet newsgroup discussions.[4] It is now applied to any threaded online discussion, such as Internet forums, chat rooms and blog comment threads, as well as to speeches, articles and other rhetoric.[5][6]>>

Named after Mike Godwin. Isn't applicable here since this discussion concerns a politician's pronouncement, ABOUT Nazis, and it is not a comparison. Godwin's Law has to do with the first combatant who is losing so badly that s/he hysterically resorts to "nazis" in an attempt to derail discussion. This post is about Nazis, so discussion of Nazis is on point.

Fail.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:16 | 5720977 msamour
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Thanks for clarifying.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:24 | 5721019 Creeps
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Nazi!

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:10 | 5720930 The Wizard
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Communist, Nazi, Capitalist, Left, Right, Conservative, Liberal, all of those political party names, etc. Nothing more than labels to create confusion. Let's simplify the analysis: centralization vs. decentralization.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:12 | 5720960 Skateboarder
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+infinity. The importance of the distinction cannot be overstated.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:30 | 5721042 Implied Violins
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Ditto.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:23 | 5721009 sgt_doom
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Marked you down, bubbaloo!

Finally, a burst of honesty from one country's P.M.

Now, let's begin talking about the American intelligence establishment:

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/File:Secret_Agenda.pdf

 

https://medium.com/@NafeezAhmed/how-the-cia-made-google-e836451a959e


https://medium.com/@NafeezAhmed/why-google-made-the-nsa-2a80584c9c1

 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 16:58 | 5721917 xyu
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Regurgiated comment from back in 2014, not new

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 18:57 | 5722498 J S Bach
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If you do NOT SEE the NAZIS, then you're NUTS, SEE?

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 06:01 | 5724122 HowdyDoody
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For The Tribe, every day is Nazi day.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:04 | 5720475 ekm1
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

 

The level of amateurism and denial of reality is quite humorous.

And Greeks will suffer due to that.

 

I can't stop laughing.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:07 | 5720494 LawsofPhysics
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Wasn't it Nuland that said "fuck the E.U.".

I see a lot of people still wanting to have their cake and eat it too.  All the while free money keeps flowing to the bankers and financiers...

Fuck off ekm1

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:12 | 5720520 Ozy_mandias
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He'll be dead soon. 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:15 | 5720535 maskone909
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yep and there is your arch duke ferdinand moment for ww3

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:17 | 5720553 maskone909
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The Greek god Zeus was flying over a Greek island and noticed a naked woman washing herself, so he swooped down and made love to her.

Then he said, "In 9 months you shall have a child and you shall call him Hercules!"

And the woman replied, "In 9 days you shall have a rash and you shall call it herpes."

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:32 | 5721055 Implied Violins
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HA! Call it 'Hermes' and that's just about right!!

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:17 | 5720562 Bemused Observer
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Wow...funny, I JUST had that exact same thought...

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:16 | 5720555 ekm1
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:-)

Bankers being annihilated out of US government one  step at a time.

Military complex is winning

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:26 | 5720578 Bay of Pigs
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You are delusional. Exactly who in the US gov't is doing this?

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:28 | 5720645 corsair
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Pentagon...doncha know? lol.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:43 | 5720768 Arius
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an old timer here :-)

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:23 | 5720596 l8apex
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ekm: You don't think they're two sides of the same coin?  Maybe you still believe that Dems and Repubs are different too.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:24 | 5720609 LawsofPhysics
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Bullshit, I see the exact opposite.  Evidence please or be recognized as the banker you really are.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:55 | 5720836 oddjob
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EKM was defending Jamie Dimon as a good guy, and people here were upvoting him.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:48 | 5720815 TeethVillage88s
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EKM1; Bankers have always led the Military and even controlled when the military went to war and even called for military operations no doubt. It is easy everyone likes smart guys, all they have to do is drop hints and smart facts, then suggest to the right leader what information would be important to find out.

- Accounting, Supply, Maintenance, Logistics, Contracting, Law all follow bankers
- Intelligence work has always been done and perfected by bankers
- Computers were first leveraged by bankers
- The CIA by Definition and Funding must be tied to bankers, and so too our other SPY Agencies
- And where to Military Traditions come from, Europe, where banking comes from

SO you don't even have the Pentagon or the Spies on your side.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:20 | 5720994 Herd Redirectio...
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Yep, due to logistics and timing of payments...  Back in the day you had to pay soldiers to conduct war on foreign territory.  You know, pay them with gold and silver.  At least a portion up front. 

It would be like America invading Zimbabwe, but USD not being accepted locally. 

And usually, before standing armies, you got paid out of the LOOT that you captured.  Which becomes problematic if an army goes a long time without capturing any loot...

In step the bankers.  They have been playing both sides against each other ever since.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:09 | 5720948 realWhiteNight123129
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No financial system = No Militay complex. Tsipras is REAAALLL FUNNN..... like a Elephant in a Chinese Porcelain shop... 

Enjoying the show with pop-corn... 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:24 | 5721006 angel_of_joy
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The Canadian kook (i.e. ekm1) is back. Oh, joy ! Things must have unfrosted a bit in Toronto...

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 16:03 | 5721557 Raging Debate
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EKM1 - What the fuck are you talking about?!?

If the United States government wants to, it can end the Fed anytime and issue it's own national currency and nationalize the banks near-overnight. The military or intelligence agencies need not be involved.

That is the PROBLEM, the political class has been captured. The game is over, the real wealth looted already. We are whistling past the graveyard.

The international cabal does not want a United States competing against the new reserve currency, China. Trade should have begun rebalancing with them in 2004, not starting now as it is.

Oh and by the time military or intelligence figured it out and make a move nukes will be raining down on our shores.

I no longer will waste my time reading your comments. I have seen nothing of value.  

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 16:03 | 5721558 Raging Debate
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EKM1 - What the fuck are you talking about?!?

If the United States government wants to, it can end the Fed anytime and issue it's own national currency and nationalize the banks near-overnight. The military or intelligence agencies need not be involved.

That is the PROBLEM, the political class has been captured. The game is over, the real wealth looted already. We are whistling past the graveyard.

The international cabal does not want a United States competing against the new reserve currency, China. Trade should have begun rebalancing with them in 2004, not starting now as it is.

Oh and by the time military or intelligence figured it out and make a move nukes will be raining down on our shores.

I no longer will waste my time reading your comments. I have seen nothing of value.  

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:08 | 5720502 Who was that ma...
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Who's "reality" is that?

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:19 | 5720564 ekm1
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Reality

 

Large powers make decisions for small nations.

It's been going on for few thousands of years and it will go on for the next few thousands of years

 

Small nations can never ever decide their own fare. 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:30 | 5720669 corsair
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Maybe...but it looks like you are on the wrong side of history (again) :-)

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:38 | 5720732 cossack55
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Duchy of Grand Fenwick.  There, take that you cad.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:44 | 5720776 cossack55
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Heres another one.....Freedonia.  What say you now, sir?

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:39 | 5720735 TeethVillage88s
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See if you can spot the Nazis:

- How a Two-Tier Economy Is Reshaping the U.S. Marketplace
The advance of wealthy households, while middle- and lower-income Americans struggle, is reshaping markets for everything from housing to clothing to beer.(WSJ)

1964 - Gulf of Tonkin, Congress gives up War Powers, Legislative Powers, and Budget Powers
1973 - War Powers Resolution (Allows 60 days combat/war without congressional declaration)
1978 - Bankruptcy Reform Act of 1978,
1980 - Depository Institutions (J. Carter, followed by S&L Crisis, 5000 convictions, RTC)
1981 - Executive Order 12287, (R. Reagan, removed price controls on Petrol)
1984 - Caribbean Basin Initiative (Free Imports to USA)
1992 - Energy Policy Act (H.W. Bush)
1994 - NAFTA, Deregulation of Trade, 3 Nations (W. Clinton)
1995 - Community Reinvestment Act, the Clinton Admin urged flexibility,
1995 - HUD advocated greater involvement of state and local organizations
1996 - Energy (W. Clinton, followed by ENRON Scandal)
1996 - Telecommunications Act (W. Clinton, cross ownership)
1996 - Start of a Period of Accounting Fraud in USA which continues today
1997 - M2 Money Velocity Top
1998 - Clinton's Kosovo War (over 60 Days)
1998 - Brooksly Born Rejected on her concerns on OTC Derivatives
1998 - Derivatives expanded and were not regulated
1998 - Citicorp & Travelers Insurance Merger
1999 - Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act (Phil Gramm, W. Clinton, followed by 2008 Financial Crisis)
1999 - bombing campaign in Kosovo (W. Clinton, over 60 days)
2000 - Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 (P. Gramm, W. Clinton, derivatives)
2002 - McCain–Feingold Act (G.W. Bush, Campaign Finance, soft money unlimited)
2005 - Energy Policy Act (G.W. Bush, subsidies, excluded clean air Water acts)
2005 - Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005 (BAPCPA).
2005 - CAFTA-DR Ratified, 2006 El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, Guatemala
2008 - 2014 QE & LIRP/ZIRP (B. Bernanke, J. Yellen, B Obama)
2009 - 2014 Continuing Resolutions in which Congress gives up Budget Powers
2010 - Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission (money is free speech for corps)
2011 - US combat in Libya (B Obama, over 60 days)
2014 - lift ban on crude oil exports (B Obama, Commodities Deregulation)

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 14:17 | 5720984 Refuse-Resist
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ekm1, you have a phone call on the white courtesy phone...

Iceland on Line 1!

 

 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:09 | 5720509 Cast Iron Skillet
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amateurism, because ... he says it like it is, in comparison to the "professional" lying sacks-of-shit politicians, you mean? I sort of like his "amateurism", and I wish him well!

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:15 | 5720542 Bill of Rights
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Its good to see you take pleasure in other peoples suffering...Karma is a Bitch...Bitch.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:31 | 5720662 enbrightened
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Your level of superficiality is quite judgemental.

Well, your suffering in the end.

 

Ukrainian tensions: Russia may have gas, but the US has the dollar
http://limpidus.org/2014/08/18/ukrainian-tensions-russia-may-have-gas-but-the-us-has-the-dollar/

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 16:40 | 5721786 The Wizard
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Yes, there will be suffering in the short run, but there will be light at the end of the tunnel if they move forward with a more righteous monetary system. It appears to be working for Iceland.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:02 | 5720476 BullyBearish
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Neo-Nazis WHERE?

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:06 | 5720485 nope-1004
Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:17 | 5720497 Wolferl
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Neo-Nazis? Where? In the Greek government. They are called ANEL. Their boss is the new Greek defence minister.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:24 | 5720606 maskone909
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speaking of anal

 

A Jew, an Italian, and a Greek are riding in a car. The car slides off the road, crashing into a tree, killing all three of them. The next thing they know, they are all standing in front of God in heaven. God says to the Italian, "All you ever cared about was stuffing your face with pizza and pasta. But I'm willing to give you another chance; the next time you walk into a pizzeria, I'm sending you straight to hell!"
Then he turns to the Greek and says, "All you ever cared about was your orgies and your wild sex parties. But I'm willing to give you another chance; The next time you perform anal sex, you?re going straight to hell!"

Then he says to the Jew, "All you were ever concerned with was saving money and digging around everywhere for loose change. But I'm willing to give you another chance; the next time you pick up a penny off the ground, I'm sending you straight to hell!"

So the next thing they know they are all standing on the sidewalk. They start walking down the street and they pass a pizzeria. The Italian looks in the window and says, "Oh that pizza smells so good, I just got to have one slice!" He runs through the door and POOF! He disappears. The Greek and Jew walk down the street and the Jew notices a penny on the sidewalk. He thinks to himself, "Oh, look at that penny! I just got to have it!" He bends over to pick it up and POOF! the Greek disappears.

ok ok ok i am done. 
Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:18 | 5720538 rwe2late
Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:22 | 5720583 BullyBearish
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I was referring to the enablers of the Neo-Nazis

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:22 | 5720585 BullyBearish
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I was referring to the enablers of the Neo-Nazis

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:23 | 5720604 rwe2late
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BullyBearish

OK

here:

US Announces Support of neo-NAZIs

http://original.antiwar.com/Chris_Ernesto/2015/01/28/us-announces-suppor...

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:18 | 5720558 Ms. Erable
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Hint: nazis bring cookies.

And screw this bullshit 'neo-' prefix; nazis are nazis, no matter when or where.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 13:05 | 5720480 timeless21
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Someone invite this guy to the Fight Club

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