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Drink Up World: The 4 Companies That Control Global Whiskey Production

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While there are eighty people who hold half the world's wealth, ten 'people' who run the world, and ten corporations that control nearly everything you buy... these four companies control what is - to some - the most precious commodity in the world... world whiskey production.

 

 

 

h/t @BarbarianCap

 

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Thu, 01/29/2015 - 23:29 | 5723550 NoDebt
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I'm just glad I drink Vodka.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 23:37 | 5723579 Yen Cross
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 There's nothing like fine distilled spuds.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:30 | 5723711 SafelyGraze
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it's a good thing that private individuals are regulated or prohibited from fermenting and distilling alcohol

the fermentation process happens for free

distillation only requires moderate energy input

if people were allowed to make the stuff to their hearts' content, it would limit the ability of a small number of corporations to develop so much control of the market

 

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:31 | 5723715 Yen Cross
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 A very good point indeed. Long Pruno®

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:53 | 5723756 Doubleguns
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you can legally produce up to 10,000 gallons a year and the license is free. You just cant drink it. So I have a lawn mower that works on burbon. 

 

http://running_on_alcohol.tripod.com/id10.html

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 01:03 | 5723783 gdogus erectus
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Yes - this was the purpose of "prohibition".  Wipe out the little guys and swoop in with the majors.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 01:21 | 5723814 Skateboarder
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The prohibition was against the production of alcohol for a reason, and it was not to wipe out the little guys so the big guys could swoop in. Until the 20th century, alcohol was a prevalent fuel. Prohibition reigned in the transformative period of getting an entire people to abandon alcohol fuel and switch to oil, namely Rockfeller's Standard Oil (or rather, the companies it split into).

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 02:47 | 5723941 zhandax
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sb, have to disagree with you on that one.  It wasn't called the Whiskey Rebellion because Harry's couldn't keep the hors d'oeuvres warm.  I like your reasoning though, and it's a rare day that I claim old John D wasn't the cause of something unpleasant, costly, and unreasonable.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 03:23 | 5723988 AmarUtu
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Well technically, when they started up the first set of engines, corn was a clear winner for bang for buck, oil was the clear winner for the monopoly slave masters. So either way, the oil pigs are still pigs and for a good reason..

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 08:05 | 5724219 mvsjcl
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And the One Ring of Power rules (controls) those four companies. Because, you see, it isn't about ownership. These sick fucks crave power above all else, because when you can create money out of thin air, there's nothing else to really covet any more--except power.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 08:20 | 5724239 Peter Pan
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If whiskey makes you friskey

And brandy makes you eandy,

What makes you pregnant?

 

 

A stiff Johnny Walker

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 09:25 | 5724410 permafrost
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Where's Greece's Metaxa? Or does Syriza own that?

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 20:52 | 5727641 Curiously_Crazy
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My Bourbon of choice isn't listed. Wild Turkey. Guess that's still independant then?

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 03:51 | 5724011 Skateboarder
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zhandax, ethanol was supposed to be common man's fuel, not oil. Leftover biomass after harvest, turned to useful energy. Hemp ethanol. The stuff is pretty much free and plentiful, if you allow it to grow. We'll never know what happened, but oil cars became the only cars at some point, and someone had something to do with that...

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 04:52 | 5724054 zhandax
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No doubt, and if ethanol were practical to fuel cars, the logical market would have been the steamers, which could run on anything from premium to last week's garbage.  It did not happen.  The world speed record was set in 1907 in Daytona in a Stanley Steamer which hit 197mph.  The car had a flat bottom and at that speed, left the ground.  Fred Marriott, the driver, survived the crash.  That car was not running on ethanol.  Energy content per unit mass has always been the driver for vehicles until the new normal.  But you raise the bigger question; steam cars were far more practical for a sprawling, continent-taming populace, yet they disappeared in the Depression.  The reason?  Look no farther than the S&P 500 and the gang who drives it. 

EDIT; After posting this, I do notice that in the last 30 years history seems to have been altered concerning automobile fuel.  Wonder why, Mr. Grassley?

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 04:54 | 5724070 ebworthen
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Good points guys.

Hemp and steam; after bong hits we'll all be driving 25 MPH and smiling and waving.

That doesn't fit with the Kleptoligarchy goals of madness, slaving away for them, and fear/guilt/shame.

Man I miss putting crushed ice and filtered water in the bong, eating Chinese food while watching Miami Vice, then having stoned sex with my hot Wife (now Ex.-Wife).  *sigh*

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 05:38 | 5724085 zhandax
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Point taken; didn't realize hemp was useful for things beyond rope, seed, and entertainment.  It's reputation seems to have been sullied in inverse proportion to the rise of John D's Flexner-inspired pharma industry and the plague of allopathic medicine.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 08:57 | 5724299 roddy6667
Fri, 01/30/2015 - 09:42 | 5724504 Cui Bono
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Laws of Ph. must be spinning in his small ring over this....

Fastest you could go for a little while was on a bike.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Minthorn_Murphy

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 01:08 | 5723793 franciscopendergrass
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Pruno will be only alcoholic drink in FEMA camps

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 02:06 | 5723882 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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In case you're not sure how to make it:

http://www.thrillist.com/drink/nation/how-to-make-prison-wine-how-to-mak...

 

I'll add this since it's the first time it'll be relevant on ZH: 

How to make booze, student style (from Latvia)

10 kg sugar

100 gr yeast

3 liters milk

30-40 liters water

Mix all ingredients well and place in washing machine. Set machine to run for at least 2 hours of agitation (obviously not to rinse and empty!). Then leave to settle and distill over a low fire. Mind you, they take for granted that you already know how to distill. If you don't have a still, just ask your neighbor, he will likely have one hidden in the garage or garden shack.

 

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 02:51 | 5723952 fascismlover
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Soon to be the one company...that same "company" you buy everything else you need from.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 09:40 | 5724493 popocatepetl
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I have a bottle of Beluga in my fridge since....whell, since 4 years? but I can´t drink it. I can´t drink something that has no taste. On the other hand, I have a bottle of Bowmore 2001, cask No. 703, bottle No. 254 and a Cárn Mór 1995, number 965 from Ben Nevis distillery which is a firework for the palate....delicious :-)

 

ZH, u could bring some more of these lucullan articles.

 

Cheers from Vienna

 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 23:31 | 5723556 MATA HAIRY
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don't worry--when I retire, I start up my own still. THat makes 5.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 01:04 | 5723787 Greenskeeper_Carl
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Make it with a nice charcoal flavor , you have yourself a customer

BTW, I didn't see Blanton's on the list. Does that mean they are actually independent? Knob creek and woodford are on there, damn it.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 01:20 | 5723816 MrSteve
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Knob Creek and Woodford Reserve are probably the two worst bourbons a marketing firm has ever brought to market. Ripping off Lincoln's birthplace for a skanky booze is so poor on so many levels.

I'll take an authentic Kentucky or Tennessee bourbon anyday, you know the ones I'm talking about.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 01:44 | 5723860 Skateboarder
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A homie bought me some go-to-the-back-of-the-restaurant-and-the-guy-will-pour-you-some-in-a-bottle Pisco from Peru in '07. It was really good. There's still a big swig left in the cola bottle. Saving it for a rainy day. ;-)

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 02:32 | 5723931 SubjectivObject
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I'll corroborate on the taste, feel, and finish quality of the Peruvian Pisco.  My then fiance and I would get it twice a week at Garcia's International in Columbus OH.  It had a large bug larvae in preserved in the bottle, if my memory serves.

Probably more enjoyable then and too, and from Garcia's also, was the 5 years basement aged Peruvian "Export" dark beer.  Back in the 90's, on a student's budget, 6 bottles, 21$, three times a week with diner.  I can still taste it.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 04:15 | 5724037 Skateboarder
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You've seen the good stuff amigo, and stateside too. Mine did not come with a bug. ;-)

Thanks for sharing the story. I haven't had Pisco since then - will have to get it sometime again. It's good flask material for backpacking and traveling . Good nightcap while you watch the stars.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 08:00 | 5724214 Wild Bill Kelso
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You mean like Patron and tequila?

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 23:31 | 5723561 Bangalore Torpedo
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Now this is a topic that interests Jew and Gentile alike!

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 23:33 | 5723569 teslaberry
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KILL THE JEWS!

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 23:36 | 5723577 Bangalore Torpedo
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Kill yo momma!

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 23:40 | 5723586 Yen Cross
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 For such a nice, "well rounded" young gentleman, you're really Religionated.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 23:33 | 5723565 teslaberry
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fuck whisky. fuck you assholes that 'love' being snobby about your scotch. you're just as douchbaggeryness as wine snobs. fucking scotchtards. 

 

the only alcohol ANYONE has any business being snobby about is rubbing alchohol. DONT DRINK IT!. 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 23:37 | 5723578 Bangalore Torpedo
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OK Mohammed, calm the fuq down.  Your prophet fuqed little boyz.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:30 | 5723713 JuliaS
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“Kilgore Trout once wrote a short story which was a dialogue between two pieces of yeast. They were discussing the possible purposes of life as they ate sugar and suffocated in their own excrement. Because of their limited intelligence, they never came close to guessing that they were making champagne.”

- Kurt Vonnegut, Breakfast of Champions

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 03:04 | 5723965 willwork4food
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LOL Julia. Funny how that so closely parallels earth civilization historcal records.

OT: With respect, you guys are all nuts. Give me a few good beers and I'll save the world.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 23:33 | 5723570 scuttlebutt
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I, with 5 friends make wine. No chemicals, just the grapes. The old school way, taught by an old Italian friend. So there.

If only I could make a good rum. I'd never leave the garage!

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 01:13 | 5723803 MrSteve
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distill the wine and have grappa

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 10:52 | 5724917 4 wheel drift
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where do you get your grapes...   better question is...   where are you located

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 23:35 | 5723573 Bangalore Torpedo
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Brown-Foreman...recession proof!  Wonder why?

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 23:36 | 5723576 wcvarones
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I loves me some Diageo. They sends me the dividend check and I takes it to the store to buy they Guinness. Virtuous circle!

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 23:41 | 5723591 Urban Redneck
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The "virtuous" introduction of HFCS into your body.

http://belikewaterproduction.com/2014/04/06/8-beers-that-you-should-stop...

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:20 | 5723695 Yen Cross
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 Don't forget to exercise. The table muscle and heart muscle don't get along.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:57 | 5723773 TheReplacement
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Have you seen what is in the air you breathe?  Hell, everything can kill you if you live long enough... he said with not even a smidgen of irony.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 02:17 | 5723904 YMHC
Thu, 01/29/2015 - 23:42 | 5723590 MakeMineADouble
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Ask me if I GAF.  I don't care how much it costs and who is running it.  Just keep the flow coming.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:05 | 5723663 MakeMineADouble
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Irrespective of global monopolies that I have no control over; I don't have a still in my yard.  Having said that, I will pay what it costs. There are very few things I am willing to suffer for.  Alcohol is one of them.  

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 01:13 | 5723801 MrSteve
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You can distill fermented fruit sugar-sourced alcohol with freezing temperatures which January and February provide for free.. the water freezes out as soft ice crystals, leaving alcoholic cold liquid as the residue. Then just let it age.

 

 

 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 23:42 | 5723593 stant
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A old brand of burbon that was killed off by prohibition is being revived here in my town. Wilderness trace. Just built a new rack house. So we shall see if its any good soon. I noticed my usual Evan Williams is not on the list .

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:45 | 5723741 Doubleguns
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Try Buffalo Trace burbon. Very fine. Yep its not on the list above. Guess they are a small brewery. 

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 03:31 | 5723984 zhandax
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I don't drink bourbon, but saw the other day that the great-great grandsons of the founder have restarted production of Belle Meade Bourbon, another mark which fell due to prohibition.  Interesting story of what today's entrepreneurs face in order to pull that off in a background of 21st century corporatoracy in WaPo..... http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/the-provenance-of-belle-mea...

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 08:02 | 5724216 stant
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It is very good

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 23:43 | 5723594 Money Boo Boo
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Drink moar, fuck moar, live moar!

 

 

I approve this message

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 23:44 | 5723598 Bill of Rights
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Tulsa's Helmerich & Payne to lay off 2,000, citing weak oil market

 

http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/energy/helmerich-payne-to-lay-off-emp...

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:46 | 5723743 Doubleguns
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I guess the roughnecks drink a lot of Tulsa's stuff. 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 23:50 | 5723616 hotrod
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Amazing how the world becomes more and more centralized.  Fewer and Fewer own everything.  Kind of like a Monopoly game where at the end there are just a couple of people owning the board.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:03 | 5723649 The Darwin Mode
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The global all-in on fiat currency does bring Monopoly to mind, now that you mention it...

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:47 | 5723748 Gab Timov
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i had a similar thought the other day while playing monopoly. then i moved to Risk.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 05:35 | 5724101 zhandax
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Wonder why the bothered calling it Monopoly in the depression.  The serfs didn’t seem to get it then either.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 06:07 | 5724125 Kprime
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and to think it's all because many years ago a few folks said, no you can't make ur own.  If you do we will kill you, and we let them get away with this.

Whiskey making used to be the common man's right.  Think on that.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:04 | 5723656 yogibear
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Learn how to make your own. Screw these guys. 

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 01:08 | 5723791 MrSteve
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The very best moonshine is made from fermented, distilled peaches, forget all other sources of mash.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 07:57 | 5724209 Unstable Condition
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Sounds delicious, a friend of mine makes a batch occasionally from honey comb. Kind of expensive, but the result is quite good.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:04 | 5723658 pragmatic hobo
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i just drink paint thinner directly.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:09 | 5723670 fishwharf
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I prefer gin.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:14 | 5723678 mt paul
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fermented seal oil...

 

will put hair on the bottom of your feet

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:16 | 5723684 Yen Cross
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 I'll take your word for it, and we'll call it even.

 I'll stick to Kerosene shots.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:47 | 5723750 JamaicaJim
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JAMAICAN RUM MON!

 

FUCK DIS WHISKY SHIT~

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:56 | 5723765 Schmuck Raker
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Fuck you and less than 15 years in Haiti

 

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:55 | 5723769 cynicalskeptic
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Some serious family fortunes are tied to booze.  Distributors are a license to print money.

 

Wondering what will happen when the marijuana market goes national.  You're gonna have ne hell of a fight between the current small legal guys, the bigger illegal ones, the tobacco companies and the alcohol companies.....

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:57 | 5723774 Schmuck Raker
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Oh, and whiskey is fer cunts wit 0 imaginatsion.

Breerpfd.

 

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 01:18 | 5723807 steelrules
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40 Creek Barrel Select, best I've tasted.

http://www.fortycreekwhisky.com/

Gold Medal, Beverage Testing Institute, 2014 - NEW
Gold Medal, Wizards of Whisky Awards 2014 - NEW
Silver Medal, San Francisco World Spirits Competition 2013
Silver Medal - International Whisky Competition 2013, Chicago
Best Young Cdn Whisky, Silver- International Whisky Competition 2013, Chicago
Gold Medal, Beverage Testing Institute, 2013
Gold Medal, Beverage Testing Institute, 2012
Gold Medal, Beverage Testing Institute, 2011
Gold Medal, Beverage Testing Institute, 2010
Gold Medal, International Whisky Competition, 2010
Double Gold Medal, San Francisco World Spirits Competition, USA
Best Canadian Whisky, New England Whisky Festival, USA
Highest Award, International Spirits Challenge, England
Gold Medal, The World Selection, Belgium
Editor’s Gold Award, Whisky Magazine

 

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 02:24 | 5723912 noben
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Yespecially it's a fone whiskey alright, but have you ever tried another Ontario whisky by the name of Collingwood?

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 01:36 | 5723844 Skateboarder
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Shame, cuz that Aberlour 18 is a kickass scotch. One of the best single malts around.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 08:48 | 5724293 Kobe Beef
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Try a Tomatin. I been drinking whisky since I was 15, and Tomatin's my favorite. 

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 02:05 | 5723889 trader1
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most of those brands are shite these days

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 05:50 | 5724112 css1971
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Yup. The diageo ones are very average mostly. They sacrifice quality for volume.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 02:13 | 5723900 Manipuflation
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Well, I see Yen is on this this thread. I think that Yen and I would have be in agreement. I think Yen would agree that that a 250 pounder will not work. We are both assholes but I'm have a six pack for a stomach. Not sure about him exactly. I do not know that he even has has a woman.

I like him anyway.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 02:47 | 5723948 YHC-FTSE
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Hey mate! :). That reminds me to start exercising again. I usually run and have a bout or two with a friend who does Taekwondo. I don't think I've done anything since winter began. Oh the joys of old age and creaking bones in the morning.

I used to love whiskey, single malt anything smokey and sweet - it's a habit my dad introduced - but one incident during a birthday party put me off the stuff for life. (I drank a pint of the stuff for a bet). A nice cold draught beer is more my thing now.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 03:20 | 5723980 Manipuflation
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One day we will talk YHC. Here is my wife's email: smolly1981@yahoo.com. She is the one with skype anyway.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 03:45 | 5724004 YHC-FTSE
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I'll keep it handy. Cheers

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 05:48 | 5724108 css1971
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LOL. Whiskey has to be treated with respect.

Usually people don't pick up a taste for the stuff until their taste buds mature; 35+

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 03:02 | 5723960 Jack Daniels Esq
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Drank bush orange-gin in Africa

Out-fucking-standing

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 03:00 | 5723963 P?keh?
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Hibiki!  17 years single malt..  Japanese whiskey..  owned by Suntory.. not on the infographics..  in my opinion better than almost all the whiskeys on that list..

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 03:39 | 5723998 Soul Glow
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Buffalo Trace for the win.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 09:16 | 5724359 madcows
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very good stuff, but the basil hayden is a bit better.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 03:58 | 5724019 grekko
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Dang!  Who'd a thunk it?  All these years of "When I drink alone....I prefer to be by myself", and it's all for the benefit of a Whiskey Cartel, much like OPEC.  Hedgers unite!  There is power in numbers!  Occupy Jack Daniels!  (Maybe we can get some free samples as bribes to go somewhere else?)

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 04:14 | 5724036 Bopper09
Fri, 01/30/2015 - 06:07 | 5724105 css1971
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I'll just point out that Scotland has ~400 independent distilleries. They don't have the volume of Diageo but they have quality that Diageo doesn't.

Having said that... And while I'm not a great fan of Diageo whiskies in general. You should try their Singleton of Dufftown (a place in Perth would you believe) its actually pretty good and somethng you might have a chance of getting hold of.

You as a foreign consumer will only ever get to experience these smaller producers if you come to Scotland because the major distributors will simply not carry a brand that can't satisfy the volume levels they need and the production is consumed locally. I happen to know this is true of Cognac brandies in France also. You don't get the good stuff in your supermarket, the domestic market consumes it all.

In the interest of broadening the market, try "Old Pulteney". Their 12 year is as good as most of Diageo's 18 year old stuff. You'll probably have to import it yourself though.

 

p.s. Bourbon "matured for 6 years"... WTF? Are you kidding? That's for cleaning engine parts.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 07:53 | 5724200 mattgallis
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Why is this news worthy?

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 07:54 | 5724205 Pumpkin
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I got one of these beheamoths ten miles down the road.  Price hasn't changed here is 7 years.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 08:01 | 5724213 BrokusDickusMaximus
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All Coffin Varnish is good for is to get drunk.

"I drink solely for the honorable purpose of getting bagged."

~Jackie Gleason

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 08:53 | 5724304 22winmag
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Knob Creek (Reserve)

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 08:53 | 5724306 Its_the_economy...
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funny. They don't control my still in the back shed. Nor do they control the one gallon apple cider jugs of peach tinted hooch I give my friends every Christmas. Obviously they haven't bribed the local constabulary.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 08:56 | 5724310 freakscene
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+100

they dont control my alembic either. its not hard to make your own, very good, whiskey

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 09:15 | 5724353 wissen dass scheiBe
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What no dewars?

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 09:17 | 5724363 RougeUnderwriter
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Macallan???

 

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 10:50 | 5724887 Tegrat
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Kountry Kwencher for me. Boones Farm. Not bad for a dollar two ninety eight.

 

I stick to smooth Canadian (Crown) or Irish (Jacobsons) when I choose whiskey. But Vodka (3x distilled) is all I usually want. 

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 11:01 | 5724946 RealitySpike
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There is a good reason for this consolidation...the capital investment you need to "age" whiskey for the 7-12 years before you can legally sell it as whiskey and something someone would want to drink (the exception being "white whiskey" aka "shine"). The latest "Jack Daniels" storage facility cost over $1B to build -- never mind the cost of the raw materials, barrels, energy (for environmental control), and labor required to fill and maintain it for at least 7 years before the pipeline starts to generate cash.

And a reality check for you lovers of craft whiskeys...they buy the bulk (if not all) of their whiskeys from these big 4 and blend them. Their value-add is selecting the "barrels" from the big distillers wholesale inventory and the overall taste (nothing wrong with that)/ They just don't have the cash or time to wait. That they are whiskey's version of a craft brewer is pure marketing.

 

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 11:33 | 5725146 Ancientkarma
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I drank so much of the unlisted stuff that I've gone blind and can't read the comments.lol

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 13:11 | 5725868 SpeedKing
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Interesting.  Jameson, Johnnie Walker and Glenlivet are my liquors of choice, and they're all from the same main company.  I have to say, in this instance, I have no shame in being a 'company man'. 

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 18:30 | 5727311 natty light
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Where's wild turkey 

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