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Syriza's Original 40 Point Manifesto
The daily bulletin of Italy’s Communist Refoundation Party published today the apparently official program of the Greek coalition of the left, Syriza. Here the 40 points of the Syriza program.
- Audit of the public debt and renegotiation of interest due and suspension of payments until the economy has revived and growth and employment return.
- Demand the European Union to change the role of the European Central Bank so that it finances States and programs of public investment.
- Raise income tax to 75% for all incomes over 500,000 euros.
- Change the election laws to a proportional system.
- Increase taxes on big companies to that of the European average.
- Adoption of a tax on financial transactions and a special tax on luxury goods.
- Prohibition of speculative financial derivatives.
- Abolition of financial privileges for the Church and shipbuilding industry.
- Combat the banks’ secret [measures] and the flight of capital abroad.
- Cut drastically military expenditures.
- Raise minimum salary to the pre-cut level, 750 euros per month.
- Use buildings of the government, banks and the Church for the homeless.
- Open dining rooms in public schools to offer free breakfast and lunch to children.
- Free health benefits to the unemployed, homeless and those with low salaries.
- Subvention up to 30% of mortgage payments for poor families who cannot meet payments.
- Increase of subsidies for the unemployed. Increase social protection for one-parent families, the aged, disabled, and families with no income.
- Fiscal reductions for goods of primary necessity.
- Nationalization of banks.
- Nationalization of ex-public (service & utilities) companies in strategic sectors for the growth of the country (railroads, airports, mail, water).
- Preference for renewable energy and defence of the environment.
- Equal salaries for men and women.
- Limitation of precarious hiring and support for contracts for indeterminate time.
- Extension of the protection of labor and salaries of part-time workers.
- Recovery of collective (labor) contracts.
- Increase inspections of labor and requirements for companies making bids for public contracts.
- Constitutional reforms to guarantee separation of Church and State and protection of the right to education, health care and the environment.
- Referendums on treaties and other accords with Europe.
- Abolition of privileges for parliamentary deputies. Removal of special juridical protection for ministers and permission for the courts to proceed against members of the government.
- Demilitarization of the Coast Guard and anti-insurrectional special troops. Prohibition for police to wear masks or use fire arms during demonstrations. Change training courses for police so as to underline social themes such as immigration, drugs and social factors.
- Guarantee human rights in immigrant detention centers.
- Facilitate the reunion of immigrant families.
- Depenalization of consumption of drugs in favor of battle against drug traffic. Increase funding for drug rehab centers.
- Regulate the right of conscientious objection in draft laws.
- Increase funding for public health up to the average European level.(The European average is 6% of GDP; in Greece 3%.)
- Elimination of payments by citizens for national health services.
- Nationalization of private hospitals. Elimination of private participation in the national health system.
- Withdrawal of Greek troops from Afghanistan and the Balkans. No Greek soldiers beyond our own borders.
- Abolition of military cooperation with Israel. Support for creation of a Palestinian State within the 1967 borders.
- Negotiation of a stable accord with Turkey.
- Closure of all foreign bases in Greece and withdrawal from NATO.
That could stir things up a bit
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Obviously racist and homophobic; possibly antisemitic, too. You will be hearing from us.
Love,
Barry
Greeks should start stocking up on basics (tampons, tp, etc.).
This manifesto further affirms my point. Don’t be fooled by Syriza’s cool soundbites (fuck oligarchs/NATO/Israel, odious debt, vive Russia, etc.) and note:
- Varoufakis is a well-established, well respected (subsidized) economist. Since 2013 he has been teaching at the University of Texas at Austin. Before that he was Professor at the University of Athens.
- Varoufakis supports the establishment of a new world currency (as do the IMF and World Bank). He wrote a book in 2011 (“The Global Minotaur”) which concludes with: A second, even brighter, scenario would be for the West to have an epiphany and, at long last, embrace John Maynard Keynes’ suggestion of an International Currency Union – the very suggestion that America rejected at the Bretton Woods conference of 1944.
- Tsipras and Varoufakis are the darlings of large portions of European and American MSM.
- A quote from Syriza’s congress paper: 13.24 […]Our plan for social reconstruction will result immediately in a drop in crime rate. The elimination of major organized crime, drug trafficking and arms trade, prostitution and human trafficking, slave labor, excessively high rents, should all be targeted by public services and security forces, fundamentally reoriented and democratically trained.
- Tsipras defends the idea of a “European New Deal” (his latest open letter).
What is going on is that the battle in Europe that has been opposing NWO socialists/Keynesians to the Germans (and other residually virtuous European nations) has witnessed two major victories for the former: QECB and Greek elections. And saying so doesn’t mean I support the pseudo-austerity policies.
If the Germans/pseudausterity is the thesis, and Syriza is the anti-thesis, what is the synthesis? I reject this Hegelian dialectic and DON’T grant benefit of the doubt to Syriza.
Well, Its a manifesto. Only socialist, marxists or communists put those out. Now we know exactly where this is heading. Taxing the rich at 75% should be a clue.
It seems Venezuela's Manifesto came available (less the oil revenue).
Not necessarily. See 'against the state: and anarcho-capitalist manifesto' by lew Rockwell.
His blog: http://yanisvaroufakis.eu/
His wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yanis_Varoufakis
The company for which he consults: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valve_Corporation
This guy is big into Game Theory and Digital Economies. Valve Corp is responsible for "Steam," a video game software distribution platform that I for one find extremely distasteful. More importantly, he's no dummy, but whether or not he's a pushover remains to be seen. His interest in Digital Economies seems intriguing, given the state of current affairs. I for one look forward to reading some of his work.
Doesn't the rich benefit more from a lawful government ? They do in the US !
"Lawful government" is an oxymoron.
Only fuck-wits write manifestos that simultaneously advocate both the separation of Church and State(#26), and the nationalization of Churches(#12).
With communists, the church is the state.
Maybe they'd be better off with the state being the church. It worked for Rome and Byzantium for a quite a while (at least longer than any communist state).
Because ideology just like religion is opium for the masses.
#12 says churches should house the homeless. Isn't a bit of a stretch to say that's nationalization?
No it isn't a stretch. If the State says YOU are going to house the (homeless) troops in "YOUR" house isn't that a nationization of your house? It sure as fuck isn't separation of Church and State. There is public property and there is non-public (i.e. private) property, but there is no half-pregnant property.
Check where the "it" is.
i understand that they want to convert the religious places of worship into the care facilities that Jesus would have supported.
Well said.
With Frankfurt School yahooooooos you lose.
In the USSA it is called a platform.
Someone please point out where in the translation the word manifesto is used.
Greece is flat busted broke. Where does he think he will get all the money to fund his crazed Marxist utopia?
"2. Demand the European Union to change the role of the European Central Bank so that it finances States and programs of public investment."
Which explains why they dropped the plan to leave the EU.
If they keep the euro, and the ECB prints money and gives it to them, the inflation tax is divided amongst all EU members. Whereas if they switched back to the drachma, the entire burden would fall on the Greeks.
So, in conclusion, fuck these ragged bolshevik cunts.
Interesting, US was marxist or communist too. Top tier income tax in the US was 92% under Rosevelt.
There are those who still think they are holding the pass against a revolution that may be coming up the road. But they are gazing in the wrong direction. The revolution is behind them. It went by in the Night of Depression, singing songs to freedom.
Garet Garrett, The People’s Pottage
"supports the establishment of a new world currency"
GOLD BITCHEZ!!!
Establish a state-issued, non-interest-bearing currency, as did the American revolutionary colonies when they threw out King George's oppressive Bank of England, (as congress had to do TWO more times after corrupt 'representatives' had re-granted interest bearing money-issue rights to private bank cabals), and as JFK did (just 5 months before he was assasinated).
Alexis: You have the opportunity to avoid repeating the tragic and disgraceful American history of letting the elected representatives sell the financial well-being of present and future generations to the Rothschilds, Warburgs and their ruthless private partners, hiding in plain sight as 'benevolent' national and international banks.
Or not.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/allwarsarebankerswars.pdf
NO. Since you have reposted the same thing from another article, I'll repost my reply here in full.
I gave you a down arrow.
- First, it is too early to judge whether Syriza is the real deal or another Hope and Change mumbo jumbo.
- Second, as far as I know they have never advocated exiting from the EU political union.
- Third, your views are uniquely America-centric in that hysteria sets in as soon as "Marx" or "Socialism" is mentioned despite the fact that modern management techniques in human resources (Worker protection and training) and almost every essential civic service including state pensions are borrowed from the pages of Marx. Communism is crap, but it does not mean there are no merits in the economic philosophy that changed the world for the common man. Without him, we would all be living in a static society of feudal oligarchs (what he called owner-capitalists) who owned and controlled everything. Look at America and it is almost there. I don't advocate Marxism, I'm saying that his insights are useful today as analytical tools for what the hell is going wrong today.
- Another America-centric view is the fear of multilateral concensus. How is a multilateral global reserve currency based on a mixed bag of currencies/commodities worse than a unilateral one based on the whims of the Fed?
- "The elimination of major organized crime, drug trafficking and arms trade, prostitution and human trafficking, slave labor, excessively high rents, should all be targeted by public services and security forces, fundamentally reoriented and democratically trained." - why do you think this is a bad thing exactly?
It is a complex play with multiple actors, and I don't believe the leading role is Germany in the EU. Ever since the Snowden revelation that Merkel had been under close NSA surveillance for over a decade, her actions which often go against the best interests of her own country started to make sense. Her unambiguous support of the sanctions against Russia makes no sense at all for German industry and the sentiments of her nation.
I'm more than willing to give Tsipras and Syriza the benefit of the doubt. So far, I don't think he has put a foot wrong and hope he will do what he was elected to do: Look after the interests of his people first and foremost.
Somebody who doesn't even know that they Syriza has, in the past, made statements pandering to a Eurozone exit probably has no place rambling on like you have. You're just another band-wagon newbie. Syriza is pre-assembled coalition, much like our own two pre-built coalitions known as Republicans and Democrats. Some constituents have tried to make a quick political-buck off of hyping a Grexit that they never really supported. Much like Elizabeth Warren is making political hay by pandering to the lower-IQ set of the "anti-Bankster" crowd, knowing she will never do a damn thing but raise cash and make excuses.
And anyone with half a brain knows that the Hope & Change mumbo-jumbo is always mumbo jumbo by its very nature. IT IS NOT DIFFERENT THIS TIME. IT IS NEVER DIFFERENT THIS TIME. If you've been reading ZH for any amount of time and don't realize this basic fact, it's time call it quits and join the Libtard circle jerk over at Salon.com
Lastly, pull your head out of your ass and remember that where fiat currency is the status quo, "multilateral" currency means simply that monetary plociy and fiscal policy will always be at odds, you will never have control, as a Nation, over the currency your debt is denominated in, and it will fail. Much like it has failed already, spectacularly, in Greece. There's nothing "American" about this "bias"- it's pretty plain to see.
Now, if we were talking a commodity based or value based multilateral currency, sure. That could be fine. BUT WE'RE NOT. We're talking about a bunch of Spendocrat Central Planners cranking out money that isn't even theirs to crank out. How much empirical evidence do you need that this is a failed concept?
Touched a nerve? :) Not sure why you are so riled up about someone who is "Pandering to the anti-bankster crowd", unless you work for Goldman Sachs.
Whether we are about to be disappointed either by a fake or a retarded communist remains to be seen. You might be right, you might be wrong - only delusional nutjobs are as sure about the future as you are. Large parts of his manifesto reads like something Dr.Paul might write, even though he is on the opposite side of the political spectrum. To me, that's a good thing.
You may have confused the concept of a reserve currency with a national currency. I would suggest you pop over to the IMF website or Wiki to learn a little more about Special Drawing Rights before you post again about central planners cranking money - SDR is a pooled resource of reserves used to lend to countries in need. You may also have missed the continuing saga at the IMF about the fight against US domination refusing to allow commodities and other currencies in the SDR - it's only been going on for over a decade.
"You disagree with my sophmoric horse-shit, so u must be mad tho!"
"You dislike someone so you must work for their (fake) enemy tho!"
Seriously, I give you a B- for dressing your hackneyed troll-talk up.
Now back to your bread-and-circus fest, debt serf.
"...Third, your views are uniquely America-centric in that hysteria sets in as soon as "Marx" or "Socialism" is mentioned despite the fact that modern management techniques in human resources (Worker protection and training) and almost every essential civic service including state pensions are borrowed from the pages of Marx..."
+1000 YHC-FTSE. Although people that can't (or refuse to understand the concepts) toss around 'communism' because that evokes the desired visceral response preventing rational discussion. They assume some equivalency between these three concepts without understanding any of them.
"...I don't advocate Marxism, I'm saying that his insights are useful today as analytical tools for what the hell is going wrong today..."
I agree. Capitalism fan-boys HAVE to keep the blinders on because they have no - ZERO - workable plan for keeping a pure capitalistic system from slowly devolving into a plutocracy. Like communism, the implementations failed to consider the reality of a constant attack and infestation by psychopaths who will use either system to their ends.
No blinders needed: we all saw what an epic failure Marxist economics really was. We've seen that movie, and we know how it ends. But no TRUE Scottman, right?
The thing is, with your argument, you make it sound like Marx had a viable answer to a "pure capitalistic system." He had some ideas, but they were certifiably bad. I can say this as someone who has both read and understood Marx. Then, some very desperate people were duped into giving it a whirl. Look where that lead them.
In short, I'd suggest looking elsewhere for "solutions" to Capitalism's problems than Marx.
"I can say this as someone who has both read and understood Marx"
You've read all three volumes of Capital? What are you, a mad communist? I've only read Vol 1, and that was bloody boring for the most part. You are just full of it aren't you? You understand nothing but what you've heard on talk radio listening to people equally as vapid as you.
Just as I posted originally, mentioning Marx always brings out hysterical nutjobs on both sides of the political spectrum.
I realize that most fields of scholarship in the States have low standards for "expertise," but not all of them.
I think you've given us the key to understanding your utter stupdity: you're more lazy than stupid. You only read some of a thing you claim to have an understanding of, but didn't actually do all of the research. It makes it hard for you to understand that some people actually do the research. Then you can run around and proclaim there's no way someone did what was too lazy to do!
You see, that's hobbyism. Be a half-wit all you want. But don't be an arrogant half-wit.
I'm not looking for a Marxist or any other 'solutions' to Capitalism's problems without identifying the cause first. For whatever faults capitalism may have, they pale in comparison to the automatic, guaranteed infestation of the system by psychopaths. I don't even care to argue the merits and weaknesses of capitalism OR MARXISM because both are based on an academic fantasy that ignores how people work in the real world and the existance of evil people that will exploit any economic system.
As soon as someone says where I can't look for answers, I know they have some other agenda than a workable solution.
Only in the child-like mind are "I'd suggest x" and "you can't x" similar.
Oh, no... really?
You came out swinging pretty good, stvitus. You made some valid points and at least started to defend your position and made me defend mine.
Certainly worthy of fight club and all.
....and then you just totally puss out like this? *sigh* Very disappointing. I'm just an idiot - what are you going to do when the smart guys show up? Yeah, that's what I thought.
Hey buddy, just pointing out that shoving straw-man bullshit into someone else's mouth doesn't work on a running comment section. I'm sure you're smarter than me. But observant? meh
I am with you and
I ALSO RESERVE JUDGEMENT
Audacity of hope springs eternal!
YHC-FTSE, excellent comment, I have to repeat/comment a few highlights of it
"- First, it is too early to judge whether Syriza is the real deal or another Hope and Change mumbo jumbo.
- Second, as far as I know they have never advocated exiting from the EU political union. (1)
- Third, your views are uniquely America-centric in that hysteria sets in as soon as "Marx" or "Socialism" is mentioned (2) despite the fact that modern management techniques in human resources (Worker protection and training) and almost every essential civic service including state pensions are borrowed from the pages of Marx. Communism is crap, but it does not mean there are no merits in the economic philosophy that changed the world for the common man. Without him, we would all be living in a static society of feudal oligarchs (what he called owner-capitalists) who owned and controlled everything. Look at America and it is almost there. I don't advocate Marxism, I'm saying that his insights are useful today as analytical tools for what the hell is going wrong today.
- Another America-centric view is the fear of multilateral concensus. (3) How is a multilateral global reserve currency based on a mixed bag of currencies/commodities worse than a unilateral one based on the whims of the Fed? (4)
- "The elimination of major organized crime, drug trafficking and arms trade, prostitution and human trafficking, slave labor, excessively high rents, should all be targeted by public services and security forces, fundamentally reoriented and democratically trained." - why do you think this is a bad thing exactly?
It is a complex play with multiple actors, and I don't believe the leading role is Germany in the EU. Ever since the Snowden revelation that Merkel had been under close NSA surveillance for over a decade, her actions which often go against the best interests of her own country started to make sense. Her unambiguous support of the sanctions against Russia makes no sense at all for German industry and the sentiments of her nation. (5)
I'm more than willing to give Tsipras and Syriza the benefit of the doubt. So far, I don't think he has put a foot wrong and hope he will do what he was elected to do: Look after the interests of his people first and foremost."
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1) "...they have never advocated exiting from the EU..." correct. If the EU is a Hydra... well, Tsypras and his ministers are now the new Greek heads of that Hydra. Though the EU is still not a "political union", it's still a Trading and Regulatory Alliance
2) "uniquely America-centric in that hysteria sets in as soon as "Marx" or "Socialism" is mentioned... " the usual White Hat vs Black hat
3) "America-centric view is the fear of multilateral concensus. " cue in the neo-con propaganda, as in point (2)
4) "How is a multilateral global reserve currency based on a mixed bag of currencies/commodities worse than a unilateral one based on the whims of the Fed? " because it is the foundation of American hegemony, which is of course the opposite of multilateralism. again, cue in neo-con propaganda and, interestingly, neo-liberal propaganda, too
5) here the only point where I differ a bit with you: remember that the trade "embargo" is still unanimous, i.e. 28 governments are behind it. Here Germany has a problem in the sense that it's sentiments and commercial interests are in contrast with it's committment to international treaties which it wants to uphold
well said, I am on your side on all this
you and your international currnecies.
there already is ONE form of international currency accepted everywhere, it's called OUNCES of PURE GOLD BULLION.
accepted by banks who engage in FRACTIONAL RESERVE BANKNOTE LENDING FOR INTEREST IN EVERY COUNTRY FOR THE PAST THOUSAND YEARS.
what no one is talking about is OIL, and then GAS price which have been plummeting, SEE HERE => http://bit.ly/1B4K0wk
Syriza is just the red international side of the coin, not the golden international side. Therefore the disputes among brothers.
The golden internationalists in New York alliied with the red internationalists in Moscow to fight the national idea of Germany. They always ally, because they are the two sides of the same coin: internationalism. Which aims for world government. The question is only, how red or how golden it should be. But it's goal is the same.
Therefore Syriza is more or less welcome and not prosecuted, university professors can work for the party, but the Golden Dawn party is being prosecuted and it's leaders are imprisoned.
There is no true danger from this program for the international banks from Syriza. And ofcourse not a word about debt based interest slavery. That's program of Golden Dawn. And they are criminalized and jailed - Syriza and Tsipras is not...
One must know, that EU's head Barroso, is Maoist. Absolutely no problem for the system. Just like Churchill and Roosevelt alliied with Bolshevism against the national idea.
When push comes to shove Syriza will be a perfect partner to continue with the NWO agenda. More red than golden, much like Barroso, but in the result these are nuances for the nations being exterminated by mass immigration, kept in debt slavery and the souvereignity of the nations states destroyed.
But for now I really like what Tsipras is doing, I like how the establishment is running around like startled chicken because of his Russia politics because it is against the plan of the golden internationalists.
How does this compare to Barry's Manifesto?
If it weren' for aspects affecting usd hegemony, it would be pretty damned close. But tptb and their puppets in dc don't give a fuck about the other points. A good fabrication and pr campaign can work wonders. The U.S. has experts in Langley who have lots of experience in subversion, particularly regarding Greece.
I think both sides of the aisle need to compromise on a single global manifesto that we can all live with.
TPTB are wonking very hard on that.
Excuse me fat finger/slow response causing double entries.
"What do you mean 'both sides of the aisle', Comrade? This is an interesting bit of heresy you are promoting, yes?"
In Greece, "both sides of the aisle" are going to be "Venezualianly empty" quite soon.
and I thought the bible character, the leader to emerge from greece, was a long shot for the amageddon story. but, there he is. I am sure some bible thumpers have taken notice. We shall see.
And what do you think John Negroponte was from???
His was titled "Hope and Change" but results have been as expected. Unemployment down with just a minor amount of manipulation and ignorance of the Participation rate which they blame on the old folks retireing but fail to consider the new entrants, guess they don't count.
It's his wet dream?
Damn all in all i would rather live there than here in the USSA
But they took his job and he can't afford a plane ticket.
Not too many people applying for Greek visas these days..
You'd go right to the front of the line.
<-- Gyros
<-- Euros
More like girocheques.
You can't eat Euros. I had to say it.
I really like the closure of bases and withdrawal from NATO and bringing all Greek troops home. Good for them. But most of the rest of it is what I have been saying all along. A lot of new spending and a lot of new taxes, with capital controls thrown in for good measure. And all these new taxes won't come close to paying for all this shit , they never do.
How do you say "You didn't build that" in Greek?
malaka
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Abolition of military cooperation with Israel. Support for creation of a Palestinian State within the 1967 borders
I think the 1922 borders are a fairer compromise. At least compared to the 2000 BC borders, which would really tick off the Jordanians.
#3 and #9 seem to be at odds? LOLz... not to mention no penalty for drug use in favor of heavier policing of trafficking. LOLz. But I get where they want to go.
Yep, I can't see any potential unintended consequences coming from that list! A communits through and through!
Where's the no corruption law and ghost pay checks
41. Hope, change, and status quo, just in case 1-40 don't really pan out.
Communists, Socialists, Facists, nazi's all working together.. Ain' that sweet.. I know if only one man who called this.
I have also heard most of these from the communistcrats in the U.S.
they accidentally omitted #1a...
1a. KILL ALL BANKERS.
death to the moneychangers.
NATO will be bombing...
Terminate funding for participation in endless foreign wars in favor of increased domestic healthcare spending. The MIC is plotting to nip that one in the bud.
I wonder if he shared this list with Auntie Angela?
Free shit, nationalize and bend over.
Notice no commitment to address nepotism? (although #28 sounds like a threat).
Notice no commitment to establish property ownership?
This will not end well.
It didn't end well for the Soviets, Cubans, Venezuelans, ..... so why would it end well with Grease? This is the kind of list that makes a German start gooseschtepping...again.
It's more or less the economic program of the National Socialist Workers' Party, c. 1933.
...funny how people forget that the NAZIs were socialists.
How can I make a donation to Syriza party?
Buy some Greek bonds.
they sure do talk purty.......
Remember how #3 worked for France? Russia gained a new citizen. As far as leaving NATO, yeah sure, Turkey wouldn't mind taking a few islands of their hands. This manifesto should be tilted Venezuela here we come, and then some.
if Putin doesn't offer serious protection, they will become a marginalized Venezuela, a land without TP....either fade to poverty or face a revolution in a short time (or both).
if Russia comes through and offers a protective embrace, welcome to "cuba of the med".
Let's do the math here 400M Europeans, who can afford to buy stuff vs 10M Bankrupt Greeks. Lets face it, Russia would rather give Greece the finger than open another front with Europe over a failed state. As soon as the Uke issue is settled, Russia and the EU will negotiate some form of cooperation and Greece will be left out where it deserves. Palying one against the other usualy gets you beaten up by both eventualy.
....rescanned....
I didn't see the line about "eat the rich".
Where did it go?
Where do you think the "free breakfasts and lunches for schoolchildren" will come from?
I believe that was........
#3. Raise income tax to 75% for all incomes over 500,000 euros.
That is really the nub. They are building into this plan the idea that they can get compliance from the rich to pay up....and at a heftily increased marginal rate. Instead, they are going to just chase out all the productive business owners. Before the curl up and die, look for them to put a bunch of those delightful greek isles on sale...private bidders, 100 MEuro minimum bid, get your bids in early!
There are some shortsighted micro policies which would seriously inhibit the recovery and dynamism of a reborn e?onomy, but i must say a lot of these ideas could usefully be applied to most western economies and political systems. Look, this cant work out worse than the present arrangements !!!!!
Greece is the cradle of democracy and also the cradle of demagoguery.
Lots of promises, but since the Greek government can't even afford to pay for austerity, I don't see where the money to pay all that will come from unless Greece exits the euro and starts printing.
there is plenty of money in Greece....it is just against their culture to pay taxes. moreso for those who are really well off. they could make it work - socialist or not - if they got serious about enforcing tax revenues.
You forgot to add the /sarcasm after your post.
I was serious....but I think there is zero chance they can change their culture overnight to get tax payment compliance, esp at ruinous rates. The wealth is going to flee Greece, just like it did when Cuba drank the koolaid. What is left will be confiscated.
You either can't do basic math or belong in a psych ward.
It is an inheritance of the Ottoman occupation.
Evil Bugeyes
Nice Propaganda of Deception…. And Nonsense
Show us a nation that can pay for all its promises?
With money, not credit.
With production, not financial schemes, not tourism, not stock market and real estate bubbles.
"Show us a nation that can pay for all its promises?"
The failure of democracy & socialism in one fell swoop.
Well done ;-)
Somebody has to pick up the slack for Venezuela as it goes down.
When the Troika-USSA-Nuland-Soros cabal rejects this manifesto, ask them if they would like to see your 40 caliber manifesto.
They're going after the tax privilege of the church? In Greece?
75% tax on income over 500k
What's the threshold below? 74% on incomes 250k to 499k? 73% on incomes 100k to 249k?
Why bother?
Just nationalize everything and pay everyone the same 25k a year from maids to doctors, from janitors to teachers.
Good luck surviving that...
40% of Greeks voted that? Did they know this in advance? Same question was always asked to Germans when they voted Hitler.
Funny you brought that up. Germany was ruined to pieces with WWI reperations. Imposed austerity and all. Hmmm, guess who was pushing austerity down Greece's throat after the bailouts saved their banks (and not Greece). They didn't learn much from their history.
check your history again... A detailled look at Versailles' Treaty (including who wrote which part, who denounced it first) and its consequences (what was actually paid) is very interesting...
Let's sum it up.
1) Steal more of other peoples' money
2) Chase remaining private, profitable enterprise out of country
3) Piss on individual freedom more
4) Continue to live beyond their means and continue down the same path of bankruptcy and idiocy Greece was already on
Anybody who thought any good would come out of this jackass socialist party winning is delusional. Where's all our usual government boot licking lemmings that now frequent ZeroHedge?
LTER is on sabbatical.
A Zionist bankers wet dream agenda, how much shall we write the check for Mr Szriza?
How many future generations of Greek children are you willing to enslave?
What's that? As much as possible?
$18 Trillion enough?
Stupid is as stupid does.
When their socialist paradise fails, as they always do, they'll just blame someone else, as the always do.
About what was expected from communists...lol.
They need some measure to massively increase tourism and foreign business investment.
Problem it will not be done with communism, the money just want to leave right now !
41. Surrender imdividual action to Europoodle unanimity on sanctions against our Orthodox cousins.
You must be joking.
They have a junior Partner, have a look what they stand for.
ANEL are Pro-Orthodox not just Pro-Russian, you forgot the Serbs.
I am looking at this with great suspicion. But, they must have a bit of time to clarify things.
Also I DO NOT TRUST VAROUFAKIS.
This Syriza plan initially hit the internet back in 2012, this is probably fud.
This is not going to end well. Some of their bullets are fine and honorable, but these guys are just academic types who are died in the wool socialist. Greece will be somebody's bitch (more so than they already are) after Greeks realize they can't pay for this manifesto with unicorn farts. The only question is who...Will it be Germany, Russia, or GS? We'll just have to stay tuned.
Taxing the Orthodox Church (Christianophobia here we come) while trying to befriend with Orthodox Russia. Logic...
Aside that, this communist manifesto will end up in blood when they will run out of other people's money.
How many time before we will see paper toilet shortage ?
Bullish black markets and Gold+Bitcoin.
Thanks Greek Brothers !
The church is a parasitic unnecessary luxury which benefits a few.
Well because Godless countries are successful in the longterm ? They ALL collapse into depravity.
Sorry I try to preserve my traditional European culture and it's CHRISTIAN ROOTS.
You, the Left and Christianophobic are more dangerous than Islam to Europe.
So go back to your gayish Californica !
You know the Europeans used to burn Jews at the stake, too, Can we keep that tradition as well? I don't have anything against Christians, I just wonder how so many of you guys honestly believe all the stuff you believe, then call someone else a heretic when they believe in another fairy tale.
Godwin point ?
Tell me, do you live and love like Christ? Do you defend the poor and the downtrodden?
"what you have done to the least of me, you have done to me".
Cause that is what Christ is all about. Call yourself a Christian, live like Christ. Renounce your worldly richess and go and live with the poor. Not many self acclaimed Christians have done that.
reading suggestion : Mark Twain, Innocents abroad, the trip in Italy part.
As it ended today.
Ekklissia=Church=Congregation=synagogue=Gathering of People. Congress is the obvious result in English
The CLERGY are the parasites, usualy Peaderasts( the ones lusting after children, in order to have sex with)
Peadofiles are the ones that Love (not necessarily fcuk). Somebody changed the meaning for disassociating the true meaning, Have a guess.
The clergy, since they are "Holy" (my arse), take advantage of all this.
And there you have it, they take advantage in plain sight.
"The church is a parasitic unnecessary luxury which benefits a few."
Let's grant that your assertion is correct. It's still a voluntary association (in most places around the world- I realize that Greece has a unique arrangement with the Orthodox church that could be seen abusive).
It's also a part of civic society.
I hate soccer. I think it's the worst game on the planet and its fans are intolerable. It probably benefits the few. There are some great arguments for getting rid of partially tax-funded money pits. But people get together around an interest, voluntarily associate, and society is probably better for the existence of spaces of association than without it.
I think that no matter how much we dislike the individual zones of association, the burden of proof that they should be treated in a discriminatory fashion should be sky-high. ISIS funded Masjids come to mind.
Tsipras was the first prime minister in over 100 years to not take a religious oath. Some say he's an aetheist. Maybe he is or maybe just agnostic and believes in separation of church and state. Either way it doesn't matter Assuming he is befriending russia, which he's not, do you really think it has anything to do with orthodoxy. The Greek Orthodox church is very corrupt and is involved in many scandals. Google "vatopaidi" among many other examples
Btw Greece sided with europe today on russia sanctions
And I can't emphasize this enough - they will play all sides and side with everyone and no one
So destroying The Orthodox Church is the solution with the Free-Masonic "Separation Church and State" ?
What's next ? Gay marriage ?
It will recover Greek economy ?
This party is leftist Trojan set by the Internationalist to destroy the heritage of Greece while playing the good guy card with "We will fuck the Oligarch and Bankster meme".
Ask you yourself why they are praised by MSM and especially leftist MSM such as Huffpost.
Why Golden Dawn was demonised while they had the same program without the leftist progressive bullshit ?
Who said anything about destroy
Rooting out corruption, money laundering , tax evasion and everything else won't destroy the church. It may even "save" it
Who cares about the msm
Golden dawn is nazi filth and nearly all Greeks except those who descend from nazi collaborators (ie golden dawn) HATE nazis with a deep historical passion.
Leftist progressive bullshit as opposed to "rightist" fascist bullshit??. Get lost with the labels
Ya know also that Golden Dawn was opposed to mass immigration contrary to Syriza ?
But GD is the bad guys of course, MSM told so.
Socialist logic: country in bankruptcy, moar immigration !
That's why syriza appointed ANEL as coalition partner and their leader panos kammenos , who is fiercely against illegal immigration (and nazis), as defense minister ??!!
The msm tried to fear monger everyone to support the establishment by bringing up the points yore attempting to bring up about them. Seems like you're the msm sheep
Not to mention the illegal immigration problem was caused by new democracy (along with never ending war in the Middle East), a supposed "right" wing goverenment
Opposition to illegal immigration is shared by many, not just nazis.
But GD is the bad guys of course, MSM told so.
The judges also say so, given the number of GD MPs in jails. For extorsion, corruption, murder, ...The murder of the leftist militant was a staged coup.
Because at that time they where at something like 20% 25 % and a REAL THREAT to the oligarchy !
BTW: your name remind me of a leftist political women that founded an association that I knew, she was dumb as ever even member of her party found her dumb !
Everybody hurts in this new Greece . Now thats fair .
Why can't they just print their own money?
Just another tool.
Real change will be accompanied by the banksters being "divided" on the gallows.
Anything less is theater.
The banksters need to repay us. And the Greeks.
The Greeks need to ask themselves whether they are, "Greeks, or subjects of Athens, and the EU?"
Yet no one can find a current one from them directly or in Greek
A good portion of this is bs
12 Use buildings of the government, banks and the Church for the homeless.
What a great idea! I'd love to see bankers and politicians living with the homeless.
I'm cheering about 1/3 of these, booing about 1/3 of these, and not sure quite what to think of the other third or what they mean.
For example, tax of 75 percent on high income? Why not print sovereign fiat and have no income tax? Wouldn't that be better? I mean, who's gonna work hard to earn money just to give 3/4 of it away? I'd move.
#41 - Free ice cream on Thursdays.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/30/world/europe/european-union-russia-san...
Already backtracking
The amateurs actually want to learn the game
Nice little lie by the NYT pressitute blaming that Mariupol atrocity on Russian backed Separatists when the whole world knows it was Obama's Neo Nazis who done the deed
Fuck the Greeks fo their cowardice. Bring on Golden Dawn
Tsirpas is just a Greek version of Obama. "If you like your sanctions, you can keep your sanctins"
40 points of bullshit. They could have leveraged The Troika by cozying up to Russia. Let them use rags and leaves for tampons and toilet paper
Leftists just bloviate and fold on cue. Pathetic losers
I like most of this -really good. I don't get turned off by the socialist aspects of it. Anything beats the phony crony capiltalist system in the US that somehow passes off as free enterpise and capitalism. I even now prefer Canadian style national health insurance to my new Obamacare plan where I pay BCBS $580 a month with a $7,500 deductible before any payments kick in. I'm about to cancel it and pay the penalty because I can't afford it and I never go to a doctor because of the high deductible.
Capitalism, Communism, Socialism, Libertarianism - all work in theory, but in reality-all are utopian. You're nuts if you believe otherwise. Any form of government to work properly requires honest, competent elected officials, and an informed, educated, largely moral electorate. Then right or left is irrelevant -you need flexibility -if the pendulum swings to far to the right, you adjust it to the left. If the pendulum swings too far left, adjust it to the right. All "isms' are utopian. You need fluid and flexibility and an honest, uncorrupted electorate and elected officials.
Well said, Savyindallas.
All political systems always work for somebody, either for financial oligarchs as it happening now or for ordinary working people, what Greeks want to do. But systems always work.
Good luck Greeks, but I would not be suprised if they are called upon to pay with their own blood for it. I hope not.
Ah yes, that old time false-equivalency based Centrism.
Google "Whiggery"- thank me later.
in France we have tried nationalization of banks. Google "Crédit Lyonnais"... And what's the difference between a speculative and non speculative derivative ?
I rate around 1/4 or 1/3 of the points as leftist with no clue, but the rest as good or very good, especially 8 and 40, plus the general tone of "not money but service (lunch and housing) for the poors". It kinds of automatically excludes abuses of the system.
I say this from the perspective of a well travelled, reasonably educated, Humanitarian ( with no GREAT ego, even if it may come across as so or sound vain, promise ).
I work for me and mine when i feel like it and have no dependence or desire for charitable donation for my well-being or preservation and so feel i have a balanced opinion due to my working class roots, single parent upbringing, mixed race and being equally comfortable sitting down with tradesmen, bankers or the worst kind of individuals, government ministers.
Red/blues and ISMS; there are NO pure ones ( definitions of ) only theories used predominately by crony beneficiaries the misguided and/or brainwashed.
For example ( before my time but recently viewed )
FILM- The Fearmakers
A Korean War Vet ( Dana Andrews ) discovers his Washington -based PR Firm has been taken over by communist infiltrators (1958 ) Typical Hollywood Farce but digested from birth.
My point. If there is a Safety Net for Banksters & their Minions and we ALL know this to be TRUE ( even paid trolls on here ) then Why The FUCK should ANYONE argue against a Safety Net for those who have been Banksterdised?
Whatever prejudices that might exist i am convinced would be almost eradicated if folks had a fair crack at improving their lot through honest work.
Sometimes just a simple Act of Kindness or Consideration could mean the difference between someone losing the plot, ending up in prison or being rendered homeless OR getting back on one's feet.
It hurts me to know that the Biggest Parasites on this Earth ARE WHERE THEY ARE by setting the 99% up like KIPPERS.
END OF
40 point manifesto...sounds alot like the occupy wall street losers. LOSERS.
there is only one thing that syriza can focus on BANKSTERS AND DEBT. IF IT TRIES TO FOCUS ON ANYTHING BUT THAT, IT WILL LOSE HARD. BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE THAT IT WANTS TO FUCK WITH ON ALL 40 OF THOSE POINTS WILL SUPPORT THE BANKSTERS 100%.
THAT, AND I'TS IMPOSSIBLE TO SUCCESFULLY FOCUS ON 40 MAJOR ISSUES.
(srry all capas) IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, SYRIZA IS MOST LIKELY ALREADY DEAD ON ARRIVAL.
this syriza , if they are honest aabout their attempt to try and break europe and be 100% asshole coomunists intead of just being progressives ( those 40 points are almost full communist platform in a practical sense rather than a 'philosophical' sense) , in which case, like the spanish and greek civil wars-----the communist socialists will start off in front, but the fascists (golden dawn) will get more funding and win the war.
it's a tough choice i'd rather not make, but in the end, i'm not going to support the outright obvious moron loser . i'd rather support the neo natzi' golden dawn , even if they don't like my type of people (non commie jews from usa) . why? because if you see a clear LOSER like syriza, who is already proving that they will squander ALL THEIR GOODWILL by focussing on TOO MUCH AND CHANGING EVERYTHING (releaing a stupid fucking 40 point list of demands all which can never be achieved ) than you are already seeing a strategy of shooting for the stars to get to the moon.
SYRIZA = NAKEDCAPITALISM'S YVES SMITH= OCCUPY WALL STREET MORONS.
i see this as a losers strategy. A STRATEGY OF CONFUSION , DISSARRAY , AND OF ASKING FOR TOO MUCH MEANINGFUL CHANGE WHEN ONLY ONE ISSUE IS MEANINGFUL TO EVERYONE (DEBT) .
shoot for one thing and achieve it. you cannot win against the banksters unless you make it EXCLUSIVELY about the BANKSTERS. I'm trying to say that i'm already starting to be dissapointed with Syriza and nothing major has even happened yet.
you cannot have a govenrment of too many parties with too many 'points' of concern if they are not in the grip of the banksters. if Greece tries to break Europe ( fuck with banksters) then the banksters will fund golden dawn until a civil war breaks out.
if you don't pay uncle tony , he breaks your legs. if your country doesn't pay uncle bankster, uncle bankster funds a civil war in your country until you do!.
what the? A Manifesto? -now they tell us
Found interesting analysis of Greek debt. Author argues Greeks are not less hard working than the rest of the EU. That may be true, because the whole EU is built on non productivity, permanent welfare class, permanent student class, and socialist dreaming. Greece just did it better, and crashed sooner. First one out, gets clobbered by the banks
http://www.thepressproject.net/article/58136/Ignoring-the-data-about-Gre...
Sounds like the US model. All nations are just fish to the globalists. Feed the fish loans. Promise them industries. Take the abatements, then pull the industries. When its all fished out, offer an austerity loan in lieu of default. Who defaults really, the debtor nations or the bankers?
And the suckers choose: the Venezuela model
They kill the country, instead of the bankers
pretty much the same platform like any other left wing party in europe.
this just means opportunity for the green parties to become the new centrist force in europe, mediating the differences between left and right.
The vital, most important, is the No. 40.
Expect internal targeted undermining with unambiguous kinetic results.