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"They're Out Of Their Minds" Gorbachev Slams US 'Triumphalism' For "Turning Cold War 'Hot'"

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In November of last year, Mikhail Gorbachev first warned "the world is on the brink of a new Cold War." Then around the turn of the year he escalated his warning, fearing "a war of this kind could lead to a nuclear war," hoping that no one "loses their nerve in this overheated situation." Today, in an interview with Russian news agency Interfax, the 83-year-old former Soviet leader, asks "have they lost their minds?" raging that "the U.S. has already dragged us into a new Cold War, trying to openly implement its idea of triumphalism," warning that "the 'cold' war will "lead to a 'hot' war," concluding "The U.S. has been totally 'lost in the jungle' and is dragging us there as well."

 

As Common Dreams reports,

Mikhail Gorbachev stated that the United States has pulled Russia into a new Cold War that faces the risk of further escalation.

 

The 83-year-old former Soviet leader made the comments on Thursday in an interview with Russian news agency Interfax.

 

"The U.S. has already dragged us into a new Cold War, trying to openly implement its idea of triumphalism," he is quoted as saying.

 

"Where will that lead all of us?" he said.

 

"What’s next? Unfortunately, I cannot be sure that the Cold War will not bring about a ‘hot’ one. I’m afraid they might take the risk," Gorbachev said, referring to the United States.

 

"All you hear is about sanctions towards Russia from America and the European Union. Have they totally lost their minds? The U.S. has been totally 'lost in the jungle' and is dragging us there as well."

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The new comments follow a warning in November from the Soviet Union's last leader when he said,

"The world is on the brink of a new Cold War. Some say that it has already begun."

A month later he stayed said that the U.S. is "tortured by triumphalism" and called for deescalation in the midst of hostilities in Ukraine.

"This whole process may and needs to be stopped. It was stopped in the 1980s. And we opted for deescalation and reunification. Back then it was harsher than today. And now we can also do this," Gorbachev said at the time.

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As RT reports, it appears more and more likely that this comes to a non-diplomatic head...

Meanwhile, international relations experts in America are quite alarmed over the new Cold War possibility – although not as much as the general public. While over 48 percent of scholars answered "no" when asked whether the US and Russia are headed towards such a conflict, the scenario was deemed likely by 38 percent.

 

The data comes from an American snap poll conducted at the end of January by the Teaching, Research, and International Policy (TRIP) project at the College of William and Mary, in collaboration with Foreign Policy magazine.

 

The research compared its results to a Gallup poll from March 2014, when 50 percent of the public believed a new Cold War was indeed possible when asked the same question.

 

In Russia, one-third of the population believes their country and the US are on a collision course.

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Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:00 | 5722948 ali-ali-al-qomfri
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Mr Gorbachev put back that wall!

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:02 | 5722953 Ignatius
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Whatever one may think of 'ol "wine spot", he has a point.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:09 | 5722976 trulz4lulz
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The wheels are coming off this crazy train! All aboard, bitchez!

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:32 | 5723061 Keyser
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Agreed... Yesterday's smackdown of PM's and crude, along with the rally in equities only shows just how desperate TPTB are getting... Anything to the facade alive...  

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:36 | 5723082 knukles
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Ya'know, when the Berlin Wall fell, I often wondered why we weren't cutting back on our empire building.
Not that it's any mystery, but sure was the tell, weren't it.
Let's make up some more enemies so we can go to sleep worried.  Pass the Ativan and Xanax, Marge.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:49 | 5723137 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Remember the "peace dividend"?

Yeah, neither do I.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 23:11 | 5723446 Radical Marijuana
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The profit from war dividend was way bigger for those few who got that, compared to the generalized "peace dividend." Therefore, those who would obtain the profit from war dividend made sure that there was one inside job, or false flag attack, after another, to make certain that there was another enemy to keep the basic systems of Debt Slavery backed by Wars Based on Deceits, going and growing!

About the same time as the "peace dividend" was destroyed, there was a policy switch to authorize the use of depleted uranium weapons, which indicates that degree that, overall, it is practically impossible to imagine how criminally insane the ruling classes have become. However, the flip side of that is within the social situations where there was practically nothing but ORGANIZED CRIME & CONTROLLED OPPOSITION, there are no rational public debates about how to operate better death controls, since the opposition was always controlled to spout absurd bullshit regarding those topics.

Intellectually, there are matching book ends of insanity found in BOTH the ruling classes and those they rule over. There is no way to have a "peace dividend" without some perpetual systems of death controls that accomplished the purposes of warfare better. The deeper levels of the dilemmas we face are not only do the actual death controls get done through the maximum possible deceits, but also, the only publicly significant opposition to those established systems is controlled to stay within the same bullshit frame of reference regarding the overall issues of death controls.

Our civilization is pretty well 100% dominated by ORGANIZED CRIME, at the highest levels, cascading fractally down, while below that are pretty well nothing else than CONTROLLED OPPOSITION. Therefore, any possible "peace dividend" is destroyed by the general deliberate refusal to discuss how and why warfare developed to be most successfully done through the maximum possible deceits, which then became the foundation of an economic system based on the maximum possible frauds.

Thousands of years of resolving the chronic political problems inherent in the nature of human life through means which were more socially successful, the more deceitful and fraudulent they were, made the "peace dividend" a very short-lived affair. It is NOT possible to have no death controls. It MIGHT be possible to have better death controls. However, what we actually observe are the most criminally insane death controls, heading towards severe psychotic breakdowns.

Since the debt controls are backed by the death controls, and the debt slavery systems have generated numbers which are debt insanities, there is no reasonable doubt that we are headed towards there being provoked death insanities. The combination of the existing political world being based on practically nothing but triumphant ORGANIZED CRIME, by the ruling classes, matched by the CONTROLLED OPPOSITION of those who are ruled over, means that combined civilization is completely crazy.

We are living in a society that is terminally sick and insane, because practically nobody is able and willing to face the basic facts that money is measurement backed by murder. Therefore, it is practically impossible to do that better, instead of that automatically becoming worse runaway criminal insanities in the foreseeable future.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 23:17 | 5723491 dogbreath
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where does David Suzuki fit into that picture??

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 23:57 | 5723595 Radical Marijuana
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http://www.calgarysun.com/2013/10/11/the-two-suzukis-theres-saint-suzuki-the-one-you-see-on-cbc-and-secret-suzuki-the-capitalist-millionaire

The two Suzukis:

There’s Saint Suzuki, the one you see on CBC,

and Secret Suzuki, the capitalist millionaire

By Ezra Levant, October 12, 2013.

"There are two David Suzukis. Most of us know one of the Suzukis. Let’s call him Saint Suzuki. That’s the Suzuki whose TV show on the CBC constantly lectures us about our lifestyle. He says we need to consume less, buy less and use less fossil fuels. But then there’s another Suzuki. Let’s call him Secret Suzuki, because he’s far less well-known. Secret Suzuki is the one who lives on Vancouver’s elite Point Grey Road, on a double lot, overlooking English Bay, right above the exclusive Kitsilano Yacht Club. The City of Vancouver assesses the land value alone at over $8 million. And that’s just one of Secret Suzuki’s properties. ... Saint Suzuki tells us that the world is desperately overcrowded, that we’re overpopulated, and that we’re going to run out of things. But in his own life, Secret Suzuki has five children. ... David Suzuki is not a criminal. But he is not a saint. He’s a real man — a capitalist millionaire, a politician, a man with a staff of lobbyists, a prolific father, a wealthy landlord. ..."

David Suzuki is classic controlled opposition! Another immaculate hypocrite who deliberately ignores the banksters' real roles, when he rightly complains about how our economic systems are criminally insane. He is relatively popular because he promotes the bullshit of false fundamental dichotomies and impossible ideals as the basis of "solutions" to problems, when he actually lives more like another well known immaculate hypocrite, Al Gore.

Militarism is the supreme ideology of the murder system. All political problems should be understood within that overall frame of reference, where issues of military ethics are the primary nature of the problems which we have to resolve. David Suzuki is a very superficial sort of "scientist." He has NOT gone through any of the deeper levels of intellectual scientific revolutions which would be necessary to reconcile human artificial selection with natural selection. Suzuki is merely another popular entertainer, providing the environmental equivalent of silly little love songs.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 02:08 | 5723891 putaipan
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b'wannnt , dant danhna dahnnaaa ... dant dant dahnna!

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 03:42 | 5724001 Four chan
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i heard gorby lived in sanfransisco. is that true?

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 22:57 | 5723387 serotonindumptruck
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Why do the world's elite want to commit suicide?

It makes absolutely no sense, unless they know something that the masses don't.

Their underground bunkers won't save them when nuclear war breaks out. They'll have no way of filtering their air supply so that it will be free of radionuclides.

After all of the world's nuclear power plants melt down, the Earth will be extinct of all life for hundreds of thousands of years.

Madness.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 23:10 | 5723452 williambanzai7
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For them it is not a matter of suicide, but of survival.

The rest of us will get suicided.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 01:48 | 5723871 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Nobody will survive nuclear winter, let alone the initial blast waves of a nuclear bomb. Biologicals will be selectively used and millions will be suicided, but after the dust settles there will be nothing to eat and starvation will ensue along with systemic breakdown of all infrastructure leading to disease run amuck, contagion, and the end of civilization as we knew it. Survival will become rather relativistic at a certain point of system wide breakdown. If tertiary level hospitals are not functional

survival is but a matter of time in the long run of possible accidents.

Statistically, the rich 1% will end up being suicided as well.

 

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 04:36 | 5724060 Ghordius
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"Why do the world's elite want to commit suicide?"

don't you understand? fear is as good as greed, for the control of the masses

as long as you believe that they are willing to commit suicide, they have your fear, and so their control over you. this is valid for the US neo-cons as well as for the... Russian neo-cons

a true fascist fears nothing, except fear itself. the atavic fearlessness of the tribal warrior, used for power politics

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 23:25 | 5723535 Radical Marijuana
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It is the inertia of psychological and political habits selected by history to become the most successful, continuing to dominate civilization after the technology becomes trillions of times more powerful and capable.

It is madness, but that is shared just as much by the lower classes who are ruled over, as it is by the ruling classes. It would take profound intellectual scientific revolutions to develop better death control systems. The actual systems are due to thousands of years of successful warfare being based on deceits, upon which was built a political economy based on enforced frauds. Those are way too deeply entrenched to be able to change, although continuing on that path will probably result in the destruction of that technological civilization, and possibly the extinction of the human species.

The problem with those who tend to correctly state that the path we are on is for the combined money/murder systems to become madder and madder is that they tend to never propose how to operate better death controls to back up better debt controls. Instead, there continues to be almost nothing but triumphant organized crime and its matching controlled opposition, BOTH of which operate with the same basically totally bullshit attitudes of evil deliberate ignorance and denial of the facts regarding the death control systems.

For an advanced technological civilization to not destroy itself would take a series of intellectual scientific revolutions, which could work through a political science that could understand and operate better death controls. However, since the established systems are based on the combined inertia of psychological and political habits of BOTH the ruling classes, AND those they rule over, at the present time it is practically impossible to imagine anything else than mad self-destruction of those systems.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:28 | 5723710 old naughty
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in other words, we let the vampires into the house.

us bad.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 02:45 | 5723945 Radical Marijuana
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Yes, old naughty, it may not merely be a coincidence that the mass media have been making vampires appear more sexy?

There is lots of literary criticism of the history of the most popular myths, regarding what they may be symbolizing. E.g., the vampires being the ruling classes, while the frankensteins are the lower classes ...

From that perspective, I agree with your summary that we let the vampires into the house!

 

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 04:41 | 5724063 Muh Raf
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Having lost the game of chess they would rather throw the board on the floor than concede defeat gracefully. Given the fragile nature of the board and the pieces it is clearly in everyone's best interests to intervene before the whole kit and kaboodle hit the deck irreparably. 

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 08:20 | 5724238 onthesquare
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The elite believe that, although they do not have the knowhow now, technology will save them from themselves.  Dam the torpedoes full steam ahead.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 17:00 | 5726982 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Emily Durkheim posited that there were three forms of suicide: Anomic, Egoistic, and Altruistic. Anomic forms of suicide include all suicides that are due to 'Anomie' or normlessness in society. When the stock markets crashed during the first depression many Banksters lost the kind of lifestyle that they were classically conditioned to expect. When the norms changed somewhat, and normlessness entered the picture, many Banksters could not change their World view to adapt, and they suicided

as a result of normlessness in terms of their social status. Egoistic forms of suicide include selfish reasons for committing suicide. Many mass murderers committ suicide after they committ atrocities such as we all witnessed at Columbine, Sandy Hook, et cetera. In the case of Columbine the mass murderers planned to kill themselves for their own ends in terms of notoriety. Lastly, Altruistic forms of suicide are best represented in contemporary terms with the medical

professionals that are willing to go into harms way in Sierra Leone

to treat Ebola victims. If they contract a disease they are viewed as altruistic as opposed to being uneducated and ignorant in terms of the risks associated with that sort of disease. No theorist in the domain of Suicide research has ever come up with a better Theory of Suicide than Emily Durkheim. The University of Chicago has that feather in their cap IMHO.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 23:09 | 5723442 Lets Buy The Dip
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what no one is talking about is OIL, and then GAS price which have been plummeting, SEE HERE  => http://bit.ly/1B4K0wk

I fill up 3 cars a week, and crude is also falling off the crazy train!!! I am scared crude will stop crashing, but these bastards keep manipulating the price. 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:09 | 5722978 Doubleguns
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I would like to know his opinion of Crimea. 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:21 | 5723029 Drummond
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I think he's wrong. I think Putin is slipping down the pecking order. Greece is looking like the new axis of evil, run by evil doooers, who want to do evil things to our banks and currencies. Greece has always been a safe haven for extremism with all those training camps and WMD's. We need to show those Greeks some good 'ol U.S freedoms.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:30 | 5723057 RaceToTheBottom
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It is the tourists, traveling to all those islands.  Who knows what goes on on those islands.  Probably secret training facilities for terrorists...

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:36 | 5723090 greatbeard
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Sex.  Non missionary sex Depraved really.

 

 

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 02:09 | 5723893 Yes We Can. But...
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I've been to those islands, know what goes on there.  Go there before it is too late.  Bring cash, condoms, camera.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:53 | 5723171 opport.knocks
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Here you go... 

"Crimea’s referendum corrected Soviet-era mistake - Gorbachev"

 http://rt.com/news/mistake-fixed-crimea-gorbachev-422/

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 01:08 | 5723796 Doubleguns
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Figures. Ruskies always have an angle even if its obtuse. 

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 09:16 | 5724358 Mike Masr
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Crimea has been Russian longer than California has been American. The majority of people in Crimea are Russian and overwhelmingly 97% voted to join Russia, which they wanted to do even back in 1994, but the government in Kiev prevented them from doing so. Of course they didn’t want to be controlled by the illegal, U.S.-funded junta in Kiev, instituted by political opposition organizations given five billion dollars by Washington, as revealed by “fuck the EU” Victoria Nuland. Ukraine was broke, and political parties and organizations were vastly financed by foreign nations, (US & EU) which then encouraged them to foment a coup. The junta in Kiev then illegally deposed the democratic president, and then illegally deposed all of its governors. The Crimean’s had every right to secede.

Crimea was detached from the Russian Republic in 1954 by Nikita Khrushchev after a drunken dinner party and given as a grand (but then empty) gesture to the Ukrainian Soviet Republic. Khrushchev was a Ukrainian Communist party boss who had participated in Stalin’s murder of 6-7 million Ukrainian farmers.

 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:56 | 5723184 bh2
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Unfortunately, his criticism is spot on. Why would anyone wish to re-impose the cold war on a world that neither wants nor needs it? It's likely the psychopathic answer would be: "because we can."

History will treat Mr. Gorbochev kindly in the long term. Possibly far better than the motley crew of amateurs exercising the most lofty heights of power in the west.  It is, indeed, reasonable to wonder if they have lost their minds.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:19 | 5723692 JuliaS
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All of his questions can be answered with one word: "petrodollar".

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 02:29 | 5723918 putaipan
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way on topic ... has anyone ever heard of, or much less translated/read, the boris elsberg snowdonski files that were smuggled out of the post soviet union? like- tera bites of floppy disks the size of the deleated able danger files? they completely described the vatican reagan black financing (heck, i don't know if they talk about leo wannna or not) AND soviet complicity in all of that. these files exist, again- smuggled out, and lay untranscribed by anyone. the whole story of the ruskie who did it and his dedication to preserving history are cool. and then i never heard of it again...anyone?

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:59 | 5723191 angel_of_joy
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Poor Gorby ! The tragedy of his life: he outlived his beloved wife long enough to see what a complete fool he was in trusting the Americans... He's gonna die a very sad man... which is really a pitty because he made so many people happy !

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 23:11 | 5723449 bid the soldier...
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Russia has already won.

They're just trying to stop the US from totally destroying the global economy.

You must remember

Dietrich Hugo Hermann von Choltitz 

 He is chiefly remembered as the last commander of Nazi-occupied Paris in 1944 who disobeyed orders to level the city before surrendering it to the Free French, and was hailed in some contemporaneous accounts as the "saviour of Paris".

Putin will be playing von Choltitz in the remake of "Is Paris Burning?"

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 04:58 | 5724072 IronForge
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He's taking a Stand Now...

...Standing Tall.  He's not doing this for his Late Wife - he's doing this not only for Russians; but for the every Rational and Innocent Human Being in the World.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 01:24 | 5723826 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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I am adept at Remote Viewing and I have the sneaking suspicion that the USA is really going to get nuked, no kidding. Old Gorby is right that the Americans don't know how to act in this situation. I think the American neocons and neolibs have gone stark raving mad for control and power since they realized they lost it on Wall Street when Bear Stearns went down due to a bear raid. Expectations nuked Wall Street and Casino Capitalism while expectations are going to lead to America getting nuked due to game theory and the zero sum game that the American administration is playing with superpowers that are clearly beyond the control of a failed Empire and bankrupt collection of states that represent what is left of a once great Empire that has gone to the dogs on a Global scale. In brief, you cannot bullshit your way out of this one Mr. & Ms America. The days of dictatorship are finished forever when it comes to USA dictating terms. The USA needs to wake up to contemporary reality and recognize that they are not the final arbiters that they once were

before Wall Street bankrupted 'we the people' and sold them to slaughter for the Internationalist Banksters. Frankly, as the closest neighbour to the USA I, for one, don't particularly want to get toasted along with my neighbours to the south. Gorby is not feeding anyone a line of bullshit when he states he thinks everyone has lost their minds. Even the Bible advises us to listen to our elders, eh.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 02:16 | 5723903 Yes We Can. But...
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Ehmen, Northboy.

But, remote viewing?

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 02:31 | 5723928 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Yes, Remote Viewing, I would not make that claim on Z/H if it was untrue. I wish I could reveal half the stuff I have remote viewed in my years of remote viewing. You would be freaked out completely, I guarantee you. Furthermore, I am formally trained in Experimental Psychology so I know what I am talking about when I mention Remote Viewing. Some day I will prove this to Z/H.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 02:01 | 5723886 putaipan
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Bring Back the Warsaw Pact !!!

i ain't gonna even elucidate how important that comment is.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:01 | 5722951 new game
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the one world cable of cartel bankers is on the prowel...

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:01 | 5722954 Bangalore Torpedo
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Don't bitch to us spotty, go tell your complaints to your boy Putin.  Have him pull out of Ukraine and Georgia and then we go from there.  C'mon spotty, it's not like a fellow Russian is going to throw you into the Gulag for speaking up!!!

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:07 | 5722972 jaap
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Please go and troll some other blog...

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:09 | 5722974 Ignatius
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I'd have to go back to HS to recall such an example of mindless home team support.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:18 | 5723017 Bangalore Torpedo
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Oh the US of A is FUBAR but in various and sundry other ways.  Read "The Gulag Archipelago" by Solhsynetsyn and then we can go from there.  I added an excerpt in the comments above.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:34 | 5723071 Keyser
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There is a difference between history and current events... Please do try to keep up... 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:37 | 5723089 knukles
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It's different this time.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 22:03 | 5723204 angel_of_joy
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Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn fully agrees with Putin's policies, you dolt !
Thu, 01/29/2015 - 22:02 | 5723209 Buster Cherry
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Read it 30 years ago, and as I recall it was very long and very depressing.

Solhzeitzen's Cancer Ward was better in that it was not so long, but still very depressing.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:29 | 5723053 Bangalore Torpedo
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C'mon people!  I'm selling this comment short!  Assuredly you can get this to -60!

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:49 | 5723139 TungstenBars
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You must have been raised by mental patients. 

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 03:19 | 5723979 angel_of_joy
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Don't fool yourself. You're too stupid to matter...

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:38 | 5723092 fukidontknow
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Have you considered Fox News - they may have what you're looking for.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:55 | 5723176 Savyindallas
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Agree-  but maybe I'll go post on FoxNews blogs - those morons could use some enlightenment   (and Truth) for a change. The problem is they wouldn'nt know the truth if it bit them on the ass. Those types simply don't listen  -and have given up utilizing their capacity for independent thought. Kind of a mass voluntary lobotomy. 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 23:13 | 5723461 serotonindumptruck
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I tried convincing some relatives (avid Fox News watchers) that Chris Kyle was a lying piece of shit and that Jesse Ventura won a defamation lawsuit against the Kyle estate because Kyle lied about punching Ventura out in his book, but it didn't matter.

They told me to "get out!" and my step father wanted to fight me for speaking the truth.

Be careful when going up against thoroughly propagandized individuals. It could very easily be a fight to the death.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 01:08 | 5723795 Joe A
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Sorry to hear about your family situation :-(

Have you noticed that Hollywood spews out war movies like this Sniper and Fury and later the US is involved in some conflict? Saving Priavte Ryan and Band of Brothers come to mind.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 01:44 | 5723863 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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Was just listening to some interesting stuff here https://porkinspolicyreview.wordpress.com and he will be going in to movies

Episode 2: The CIA and Robert De Niro – Guest: Guillermo Jimenez

In the first guest episode we welcome Guillermo to talk about Robert De Niro’s lengthy connections to the CIA.  From Wag the Dog, where he plays a character based on CIA Entertainment Liaison Chase Brandon to the Meet the Parents film franchise which was assisted by Brandon, to his epic rewriting of CIA history in The Good Shepherd, De Niro has for nearly 20 years had some kind of relationship with the Agency.

Episode 4: The CIA and Enemy of the State – Guest: Adam of Themes and Memes

The film that predicted the entire Edward Snowden story is next on the list, when Adam joins in the discussion.  The Gene Hackman character, based on a role he played in the 1970s thriller The Conversation, foreshadows everything about Snowden, including his name and where he grew up, and the film’s depiction of mass surveillance has much the same effect on audiences as Snowden’s ‘revelations’ some 15 years later.

 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 22:41 | 5723330 Omen IV
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Ace order the helicopter !!!! -

its time for a lift off from the US embassy roof - al la Saigon - for the FBI / CIA / Academi / Fascists locals / Oligarchs / Asov Battallion / American NGO Staff(s) and of course........Victoria Nuland

it all about USA USA!

the faster they are gone the safer the world is

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 22:57 | 5723390 bid the soldier...
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first things first

your boy Putin.  Have him pull out of Ukraine and Georgia

Putin won't be pulling out of anything till he pulls out of your butt hole and judging from the smiles on both your faces, it won't be anytime soon.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 22:57 | 5723392 bid the soldier...
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first things first

your boy Putin.  Have him pull out of Ukraine and Georgia

Putin won't be pulling out of anything till he pulls out of your butt hole and judging from the smiles on both your faces, it won't be anytime soon.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:04 | 5722961 PacOps
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Reset ... Hope & Change.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:04 | 5722964 rogerrabbithole
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The Tribe is running this show. Looking for a reason to bring us back into chaos. We need's a war to save the dollar. They'll send low-middle class kids to get slaughtered while their kids protest said war at Harvard. 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:14 | 5722995 trulz4lulz
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These people are using a playbook from the 15th Century. It may prove most troublesome once they realize 90% of the worlds population would like to move forward into the 21st century. Could be interesting, could be nothing. Time will tell.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:14 | 5723006 will ling
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won't be any harvard after this one sets off.

the only message the west will get is this:

1) the russians for some reason have ordered the evacuation of all cites.

2)   "       "         "      "        "        "   cut off all communications w/the west.

3)    "       "         "       "       "       "  ordered all males 16+ to 65 to active duty within 24 hrs, and all armed forces to defcon max.

don't bother to find a shelter.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:35 | 5723075 trulz4lulz
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There will be no warning. This is the plan. Merikastan has yet to feel the pain of a world war in their back yards. Merikastan is on the chopping block, it is the will of the international order. It is all by design. We are at the end of this great play.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:07 | 5722969 Balkan
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How deep and original insight!

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:12 | 5722971 papaswamp
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Banksters cant have the masses going 'Syriza' or Icelandic on them and defaulting. Best to redirect their anger towards Russia.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:14 | 5722996 NotApplicable
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Banksters hold the ultimate weapon, total financial collapse.

"Do as I say, or the world gets it."

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:38 | 5723101 RaceToTheBottom
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Worked for the scumsucking GS Prostitute Paulson

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:17 | 5723015 cynicalskeptic
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well.....

TPTB haven't managed to get WWIII started over Iran... or Syria.... or convince the masses that Islam is an exestential threat requiring a permanent presence in the Middle East (the neocon wet dream), so they're back to ole reliable - the evil Russkies.

can't make the Chinese the evil threat - too many of them (and the fact that they own our asses.... and make damn near anythign that's used by 'Mericans).

 

 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:09 | 5722975 GovernmentMule
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The more the dollor hegemony is threatened that louder the war drums become...

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:09 | 5722980 Bangalore Torpedo
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Is the US government FUBAR...well of course they are.  But isn't evil a relative kinda thing?  This is the only insight that one needs into the Russian psyche....

Book 1, Chapter 4, “The Gulag Archipelago”

Here is a riddle not for us contemporaries to figure out: Why is Germany allowed to punish its evildoers and Russia is not? What kind of disastrous path lies ahead of us if we do not have the chance to purge ourselves of that putrefaction rotting inside our body? What, then, can Russia teach the world? 

 In the German trials an astonishing phenomenon takes place from time to time. The defendant clasps his head in his hands, refuses to make any defense, and from then on asks no concessions from the court. He says that the presentation of his crimes, revived and once again confronting him, has filled him with revulsion and he no longer wants to live.

 That is the ultimate height a trial can attain: when evil is so utterly condemned that even the criminal is revolted by it.  A country which has condemned evil 86,000 times from the rostrum of a court and irrevocably condemned it in literature and among its young people, year by year, step by step, is purged of it.

 What are we to do? Someday our descendants will describe our several generations as generations of driveling do-nothings. First we submissively allowed them to massacre us by the millions, and then with devoted concern we tended the murderers in their prosperous old age.

What are we to do if the great Russian tradition of penitence is incomprehensible and absurd to them? What are we to do if the animal terror of hearing even one-hundredth part of all they subjected others to outweighs in their hearts any inclination to justice? If they cling greedily to the harvest of benefits they have watered with the blood of those who perished?

It is clear enough that those men who turned the handle of the meat grinder even as late as 1937 are no longer young. They are fifty to eighty years old. They have lived the best years of their lives prosperously, well-nourished and comfortable, so that it is too late for any kind of equal retribution as far as they are concerned. But let us be generous. We will not shoot them. We will not pour salt water into them, nor bury them in bedbugs, nor bridle them into a "swan dive," nor keep them on sleepless "stand-up" for a week, nor kick them with jackboots, nor beat them with rubber truncheons, nor squeeze their skulls in iron rings, nor push them into a cell so that they lie atop one another like pieces of baggage—we will not do any of the things they did! But for the sake of our country and our children we have the duty to seek them all out and bring them all to trial!

Not to put them on trial so much as their crimes. And to compel each one of them to announce loudly: "Yes, I was an executioner and a murderer." And if these words were spoken in our country only one- quarter of a million times (a just proportion, if we are not to fall behind West Germany), would it, perhaps, be enough?  It is unthinkable in the twentieth century to fail to distinguish between what constitutes an abominable atrocity that must be prosecuted and what constitutes that "past" which "ought not to be stirred up."

We have to condemn publicly the very idea that some people have the right to repress others. In keeping silent about evil, in burying it so deep within us that no sign of it appears on the surface, we are implanting it, and it will rise up a thousandfold in the future. When we neither punish nor reproach evildoers, we are not simply protecting their trivial old age, we are thereby ripping the foundations of justice from beneath new generations. It is for this reason, and not because of the "weakness of indoctrinational work," that they are growing up "indifferent." Young people are acquiring the conviction that foul deeds are never punished on earth, that they always bring prosperity

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:47 | 5723136 mofreedom
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I forgot about that book due to countless years of re-education...I will surely pick it up at the local used book store...will be good reading in prison. Thanks for being alive and sharing.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 23:16 | 5723479 williambanzai7
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That book is labelled contraband by Prisons Inc

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 22:45 | 5723344 11b40
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So, you are saying Bush & Cheney need to be tried for war crimes, right?

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:11 | 5722981 Yen Cross
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 Reagan would never have accomplished his goals if Gorby hadn't played along. ;-)

 Gorby is a man before his time, and a mature statesman.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:13 | 5722999 Bangalore Torpedo
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And he did understand the sins of his countrymen.  Perhaps he sees something that we don't.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:19 | 5723016 Yen Cross
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  You're like a gnat, that keeps landing on my turd pile. Please go away.

 Go do someting productive, like starting a new ZeroHedge profile.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:20 | 5723025 Bangalore Torpedo
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Perhaps you should make your turd pile a bit less attractive???

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 07:38 | 5724173 Max Steel
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Yank scum why dont you lecture your spooks about Guantanamo Bay ( modern gulag) instead of talking about those things which existed in past . Ignorance and Hypcorisy much ? Cunt eat a crow . 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:51 | 5723151 Savyindallas
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There are no American Statesmen in office  -at least in positions of real influence. We have children  -criminals -perverts -that's what the elites allow us. The shadow Government controls the US  -and they are Luciferian degenerates hellbent on total domination and control through economic calamity and war. 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:11 | 5722984 Abitdodgie
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(In Russia, one-third of the population), in my view and I live in the flyover I would say Russia has way more fighting people than America , everyone I know are on medication and cannot run just 1 mile . 50% of American's are so fat when they jump up they get stuck, most wimen in America when they put high heel's on they strike oil . So please number's don't matter.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:22 | 5723023 NumNutt
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I think you are mistaken if you think for one minute a USA Russian war would include a bunch of us shooting actual bullets at a bunch of them. it would go something more like this: country #1 -"We declare war on country #2, Country #2 (pushing button) 'click' sounds of thousands of rocket engines igniting, country #1 - (pushing button) 'click' sounds of thousands of rocket engines igniting. Then BOOOOM! Welcome back to the middle ages...maybe....

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:25 | 5723042 kowalli
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you are wrong, they will skip #1...,  click sounds come first

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:35 | 5723081 NumNutt
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You are most likely correct, the first country that gets the slightest bit nervous and thinks it is on like donkey kong will start pushing buttons. Regardless it will never come to two groups of fools shooting at each other with rifles. the only thing we will know (if you live out in the country side) that we had a war with Russia is suddenly no electricty, and netflix has gone offline......

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:43 | 5723114 greatbeard
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>> netflix has gone offline......

I was good 'til you had to throw that shit in there.

 

 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:46 | 5723128 NumNutt
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LOL! Hate to say it but a lot of people don't even look out windows to see if it is raining, they depend on their laptop or their smart phone for everything...sad but true...

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 22:00 | 5723193 teslaberry
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WE ARE ALREADY AT WAR. 

 

the click sounds will never come. it no longer works this. mutually assured destruction will not happen unless the cartel of countries that possess them agrees to use them, and most likely they will all be used at once against those countries that don't possess them. 

 

there are over 180 nation nations in the world.9 possess nuclear weapons despite nuclear umbrella treaties existing; NATO ITSELF doesn't possess nuclear weapons. no international armies yet possess nuclear weapons under their command to my knowledge. 

 

u.s, uk , france, (nato)

israel 

china russia north korea pakistan 

india 

consider nato nuclear umbrellaexplicityly covers turkey, italy, germany and some other nations. importantly south africa and a number of former soviet states USED to have nuclear weapons but no longer. 

 

the path forward of WAR ---is to financially and economically cripple nation states into balkanization. if those states subject to attack opssess nuclear weapons, the strategy is to balkanize territory off , and liek the former soviet states, force the withdrawal of nuclear weapons from those territories. 

considering the annexation of crimea and the implicit incrase in russian territory covered by and potentially harboring nuclear weapons, it does seem that this plan had a little hiccup with the ukranian strategy. 

 

doomsday could happen, but it's most likely some outlandish scenario where nuclear powers all agree to comiit homicide of other nations, not one another . the leaders are not stupid. even if they do only want power, they know they're more likely to get more power by avoiding MAD. 

there's a reason nuclear war hasn't happened since ww2, and it's not some conspiracy---it's SIMPLE SELF INTEREST. 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:45 | 5723126 will ling
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sorta.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:56 | 5723182 BlussMann
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The only shooting between people will be on USSA soil between Survivalist/NRA Whites, relatively well organized Mexican gangs and chaotic Zimbabwe type Blacks over turf and resources. Those that are left after the missles fly.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:22 | 5723031 trulz4lulz
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Yeah but we have tons of expendable blacks, dumb fuck whites and mexicans desperate for citizenship! Why would we waste the valuable Merikastan Land Whale?

 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:23 | 5723040 cynicalskeptic
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All those couch potato gamers are perfectly trained to operate drones and other forms of remote control war.....   

But the truth is that damn near anywhere else in the world is used to hardship and deprivation and far more able to cope with such things than the average spoiled American.  The last real hardship sufferred directly by Americans at home was in the Civil War and limited to a minority of the population.   I wonder how many Americans could carry a 50lb pack for more than a mile?  ....or do without food (and beer) for a few days?

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:57 | 5723179 Vylahkinnen
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What are you talking about?

A "hot" war between Russia and Nato is the most stupid thing I've heard in a while. You then don't need any fighting capabilities. Or you see them coming with horses and swords? Nah. More rockets, carpet-bombing, drone strikes and nukes. Oh you can lift, boy? Well the joke is on you.

And btw - yeah, I get it - Americans are fat and yada yada - but they also have dozens and dozens of highly trained and combat-experienced ex-soldiers and people that go actively to shooting ranges (which is not war experience yeah I get it) - when was the last real war for Russia - yeah, that's more like Afghanistan - almost 30 years ago. And who is attacking? Do you think Russia will invade Europe? Not gonna happen. Russia is not invincible. Finnland - with German help - but bombarded by the British - stopped Russian advances quite brutally in WWII. Russia sucked balls in Afghanistan - America wasn't that much better - don't get me wrong - I am not saying US soldiers are better than Russian soldiers or anything stupid like that. At least they were better prepared and better equipped though. Or you wanna talk about the First War in Chechnya? When Russia - although outnumbering the enemy by far - got their ass kicked - lost more tanks than even in WWII. Okay - Second Chechnya War went a lot better - cause Putin is not an idiot. Listen, I am not in this - USA vs. Russia - who's got the longer dick - the Americans got their ass kicked in Vietnam - I don't fucking care about that. I just want to sip my coffee and live in my European socialist paradise of a country. I give fuck about them.  I am sorry for the people in the Ukraine - they are fucked - by Russians and Americans.  Torn apart. Like it happened so many times in so many countries during the Cold war.

But see - the whole premise is beyond stupid - who gains what by such a "hot" war? It doesn't make any sense. Now don't disturb my coffee break or I will go berserk. I mean it. I will fucking lose it. Leave me the fuck alone and go play in your own sandbox. There you can whatever you want to be - your country, your rules, your playground. Don't drag me into it. Fucking cultural and economical blocs - like living in the stupid 20th century.

Don't be an idiot, okay? If your one of the 99% - wether it is in Russia or in America or in another European country - you will be walking right into to the slaughterhouse - a big pat on the back by the superior chief and if you kill a lot - they make a movie, sing songs about you, decorate your uniform with medal shit, an article on wiki and tweets about your heroism - also a lot of bitching in the comments - big, tough soldier boy and the hookers will do it - just because it's you - yeah. But that guy on the other side - he is just like you. Talking about the cattle here. What a stupid world. 70.000 years ago - a couple of our ancestors made it and now we just give a shit and put out our knives...what a stupid world. Tiniest bit of difference and it's on. I swear - five more years of this shit and I will gladly sign a contract to be a stupid homo sapiens in a galactical zoo.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 01:00 | 5723781 Joe A
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One of the best comments ever.

We don't need no fucking cold or hot war.

The sheep are being mobilized on all sides to hate the sheep on the other side. Fucking politians and bankers want us to go and kill and die for them.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:11 | 5722990 reader2010
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Let us have a nuclear war then,  retorted Washington. 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:13 | 5723000 CunnyFunt
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But we need our Bankster Lebensraum.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:14 | 5723001 Yes_Questions
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These are the interesting times we were warned of Gorby, brought to us by you and your ilk.

 

 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:16 | 5723005 ThisIsBob
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"Have they totally lost their minds?"

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 22:06 | 5723217 Berspankme
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Mcshitstain and his lesbian friend Graham never had a mind to begin with

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:16 | 5723011 rsnoble
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I have a couple lifelong military friends in the US.  Their view is "When, not if".  

"Welcome to the jungle baby, you're gonna die!!!"

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:47 | 5723135 BlussMann
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I'm sure the Ruskies are concerned about our gay, affirmative action military.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:19 | 5723021 luckylogger
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Here we go again quoting Russias official propaganda "news source" for actual facts.....
Did the guy really say it?
Oh, yea it is true the ruskies said so...........
Do you idiots believe all the shit that MSM says????
Both need to be taken with a grain of salt~!

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:25 | 5723047 kowalli
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He live in Germany. Russian people hate him so he is afraid for his life to visit Russia.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:25 | 5723048 Bangalore Torpedo
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Now that will surely get you downvoted!

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:39 | 5723103 luckylogger
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Every now and then I try............

As far as I know my record is 53 down votse...................

Just one of those that enjoys taking a stick to a hornets nest.............

You ever poke a badger with a stick?

I did once..... for real...............

ugg............

It pissed the little guy off...

Kinda had neopolian complex me thinks...

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:56 | 5723770 Joe A
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Are you one of those people who keeps track on how many up or down votes he gets?

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:21 | 5723024 Felix da Kat
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McCain and Graham are little boys playing with matches in a hay barn. Niether of them give a damn about Americans.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:23 | 5723034 Bangalore Torpedo
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And tthe other 533 do actually give a damn?

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:25 | 5723049 Savyindallas
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Walter Jones does  -maybe a handful of others. Rand paul comes as close as it comes in the Senate -but even he has been dissapointing of late on many issues. 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:37 | 5723096 Felix da Kat
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Good point BT. Those two are just the neocon ring leaders.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:37 | 5723088 Bay of Pigs
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It's hard to believe anyone would have any respect for that warmongering asshole McShitstain.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:41 | 5723109 lakecity55
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Lindsey, that negligee looks hot.

Reggie loaned it to me.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:58 | 5723186 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

McCain and Graham are little boys playing with matches in a hay barn.

I thought they were just butthole buddies. Unless, of course, playing with matches is a euphemism for that sort of thing.

Niether of them give a damn about Americans.

They both hate Americans.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 22:19 | 5723247 loveyajimbo
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"McCain and Graham are little boys playing with matches in a hay barn. I thought they were just butthole buddies. Unless, of course, playing with matches is a euphemism for that sort of thing.

Niether of them give a damn about Americans.They both hate Americans. "

Wake up, douchebag!!  Think they hate Americans more than the VERIFIED bonesmoker Obunga and his hideous Grandparents Piglosi and Reid?  How about the twin 'roids Jarrett and Rice... and the imbecile bimbos Pissaki and harf??

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 22:40 | 5723317 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

Wake up, douchebag!!  Think they hate Americans more than

Obtuse, obtuse. Might want to endeavor toward improved reading comprehension, if only to prevent reading stuff that was never written.

Trapped in the US citizenism paradigm...

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:23 | 5723035 Niall Of The Ni...
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Is he still alive?

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:27 | 5723050 kowalli
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sad...He still alive. He is shit like Soros.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:33 | 5723074 NoWayJose
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If Obama had followed Carter, it may well have turned into a Soviet win in the Cold War

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:39 | 5723078 Moribundus
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Ukraine’s military Chief of Staff Viktor Muzhenko admitted Russian troops have not been taking part in combat operations in the country’s east during news briefing in Kiev, Ukraine Channel 5 television reports.

http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150129/1017514425.html

That's good. Right? Watch what Ukraine's server say about the same news. they contradicts itself

http://ukrainiancrisis.net/news/7589

http://ukrainiancrisis.net/news/7596

There is also progress in investigation of Maydan shooting

http://www.unian.info/society/1036260-maidan-activists-nihoian-and-zhizn...

 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:39 | 5723086 lakecity55
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Americans, you had better get ready to "Just Say NO."

"America has been lost in the Jungle."

Thank you, sir for being diplomatic about our monkey with a hand grenade.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:43 | 5723118 knukles
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I'm with you, Lake.
These people forecasting the end of the universe within the next few moments are close to plum crazy.  This shit's gonna just keep on keepin' on for a long, long time.
So the Rooskies get a naval basing rights 3 weeks a year in Athens harbor.  Shore leave!  (They already have a base in Syria, not like they need another in the Mediterranean)
The Greek whores all give the Rooskie boys dinky rot and mouth sores. (Rooskies are a few of the people whose cultures think kissing a whore is OK)
The Greeks go from one bankruptcy to another.
They get booted from the EU (gracefully) and debts restructured as a pestilence upon Western sensitivities.
Big deal.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 01:47 | 5723865 steelrules
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Everyone's seen it but I couldn't resist. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhxqIITtTtU

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:37 | 5723094 ronron
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Gorbi is a russian, so i trust his jugement. yeltson told vlad to take care of russia. he will till he dies.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:43 | 5723120 5e0V2a3
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But Bob, Stalin was 'a Russian' too, and look where your trust of him got us.

You silly goose!

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:48 | 5723140 Global Hunter
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Koba (Stalin) was from Georgia.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 01:49 | 5723876 bid the soldier...
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Stalin died in 1953.

You are the only one here old enough to remember him.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:43 | 5723113 5e0V2a3
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Who's got Vlad's suicide watch tonight?

Don't fall for that trick about wanting a knife 'just to dice a tomato'!

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 22:37 | 5723309 bid the soldier...
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Ah ha

Who's got Vlad's suicide watch tonight?

There's only one asshole that asks that stupid question, dude.  And he's got a different moniker than 5eOV2a3.

Here you are with your dork hanging out.  I hope you don't have a knife.  I'd hate to see you whittle it down even teenier  

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:53 | 5723757 Joe A
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My idea as well. Somebody else has been saying that. One and the same person perhaps.

He came here to troll.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 01:49 | 5723869 bid the soldier...
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Absolutely.

And from a long line of trolls.  

You can't be that stupid without help.

 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:43 | 5723117 kchrisc
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"...asks "have they lost their minds?" raging that "the U.S. has already dragged us into a new Cold War, trying to openly implement its idea of triumphalism," warning that "the 'cold' war will "lead to a 'hot' war," concluding "The U.S. has been totally 'lost in the jungle' and is dragging us there as well."

The reality is that the ponzi schemers who control the DC US, and the rest of the west, are desperate to keep their ponzi going. They also desire to scorch-earth the DC US as they exit to Europe--leave the Chinese, and Ruskies less. (If you live near the DC US' bread basket, you may want to move.).

Always about money, power, and division. Follow the money, trace the Zionist strings.

The banksters need to repay us.


Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:44 | 5723119 Tucson Tom
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The State Dept. is a loose cannon in the Ukraine.K street is in it for the money and using State to do it`s bidding.They won`t be in the shit when it all goes south there and eastern Europe.Reminds me of Krushev and Cuba.Pissed us off enough to threaten war with Russia and now Putin is doing just what we did. http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraine-the-corporate-annexation-for-cargill-chevron-monsanto-its-a-gold-mine-of-profits/5375170 Getting mad.Read this and lose sleep.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:45 | 5723123 5e0V2a3
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The ruble's backed by the full faith and credit of the Russian government, just like the dollar. 

Problem is, that Russian government has debauched the currency and outright defaulted on it so many times and so recently that there's not much faith left.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:26 | 5723700 rejected
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And the west, especially the u.s.s.a, is the billboard for solvency and responsible economics. LOL

Just let us know who your handlers are and we'll let them know what a great job your doing.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:45 | 5723129 5e0V2a3
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Opinion: Cheap Oil May Mean Regime Change for Foes of the U.S.

By Martin Feldstein

Leaders in Russia, Iran and Venezuela could lose popular support if energy prices bring down their economies

  Bloomberg
 

Martin Feldstein, professor of economics at Harvard University: ‘The low price of oil is good news for the U.S. economy, because it implies higher real incomes for American consumers.’

The price of oil has fallen by more than a third in the past five months, to about $70 a barrel. If the price remains at this level, it will have important implications — some good, some bad — for many countries around the world. If it falls further, as seems likely, the geopolitical consequences on some oil-producing countries could be dramatic.

The price of oil at any time depends on market participants’ expectations about future supply and demand. The role of expectations makes the oil market very different from most others. In the market for fresh vegetables, for example, prices must balance the supply and demand for the current harvest. By contrast, oil producers and others in the industry can keep supply off the market if they think that its price will rise later, or they can put extra supply on the market if they think the price will fall.

Oil companies around the world keep supply off the market by reducing the amount of oil that they take out of the ground. Oil producers can also restrict supply by holding oil inventory in tankers at sea or in other storage facilities. Conversely, producers can put more oil on the market by increasing production or by running down their inventories.

The market expectations reflected in today’s price reflect lower future demand and increased future supply. Lower demand reflects both the current weakness of economic activity, particularly in Europe and China, and, more important, the longer-term changes in technology, which will increase cars’ fuel efficiency and induce the use of solar power and other non-oil energy sources. The increase in the future potential supply of oil reflects new output produced by fracking, the development of Canada’s tar sands, and Mexico’s recent decision to allow foreign oil companies to develop the country’s energy sources.

A further decline in the price of oil could have major geopolitical repercussions — a price of $60 a barrel would create severe problems for Russia.

These changes in demand and supply suggest that the future price of oil will be lower than industry participants expected until just a few months ago. Some of the recent changes in expected future demand and supply could have been anticipated earlier. But there is no way to know when attitudes and expectations will change. The historic volatility of oil prices reflects these psychological shifts as well as changes in objective reality.

Today’s oil price is also linked to anticipated future interest rates. More specifically, oil producers have an investment choice: They can increase production now, selling the additional oil at today’s price and investing the proceeds at the existing long-term interest rate, or they can leave the oil in the ground as an investment.

A low rate of interest encourages producers to leave oil in the ground. When the current abnormally low interest rates on long-term bonds rise over the next few years, it will become more attractive for producers to increase the supply of oil and invest the resulting income at the higher rate. Unless expectations about the fundamentals of future supply and demand change, the rise in the interest rate will cause oil prices to fall further.

The low price of oil is good news for the United States economy, because it implies higher real incomes for American consumers. Within the U.S., the lower price is transferring real income from oil producers to households, which raises short-term demand because households spend a higher proportion of their incomes than oil firms do. For the same reason, the lower price also gives a boost to aggregate demand in Europe, Asia and other oil-importing regions.

The big losers from falling oil prices include several countries that are not friends of the U.S. and its allies, such as Venezuela, Iran and Russia. These countries are heavily dependent on their oil revenue to support their governments’ spending — especially massive transfer programs. Even at $75 or $80 a barrel, these governments will have a difficult time financing the populist programs that they need to maintain public support.

Although Saudi Arabia and several of the Gulf states are also major oil exporters, they differ from other producers in two important ways. First, their cost of extracting oil is extremely low, which means that they will be able to produce profitably at the current price — or even at a much lower price. Second, their enormous financial reserves allow them to finance their domestic and international activities for an extended period of time, as they seek to transform their economies to reduce their dependence on oil revenue.

A further decline in the price of oil could have major geopolitical repercussions. A price of $60 a barrel would create severe problems for Russia, in particular. President Vladimir Putin would no longer be able to maintain the transfer programs that currently sustain his popular support. There would be similar consequences in Iran and Venezuela.

It is not clear whether these countries’ current regimes could survive a substantial and sustained future decline in oil prices. By contrast, it is obvious that oil-importing countries would benefit greatly — as they already are.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 22:57 | 5723386 Omen IV
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Martin Feldstein has been around a long time most of which he has been ....wrong - check him out

In Iran or Russia where the "people" blame the USA  - for covert actions regarding this whole oil event - the pain will make them more resolved to stick it out

 

 

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 23:26 | 5723544 Wahooo
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You lost meat Feldstein.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:50 | 5723144 5e0V2a3
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Each year a small handful of Lee Harvey Oswalds and Zero Hedgers emigrate to Russia...whilst many thousands more gratefully leave Russia for life in the US. 

I wonder why? 

Hmm, maybe we can hear some half-baked analysis from Zero Hedgers...?

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 22:18 | 5723244 bid the soldier...
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Kindly shut the fuck up and maybe you will

maybe we can hear some half-baked analysis from Zero Hedgers...?

Nah.  

Listening to you about Russia is like listening to Carrie Nation discuss Coors Lite.

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 22:37 | 5723312 Berspankme
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just ignore the .gov trolls. they get paid $5.00 per hour to troll from the kenyan

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 22:59 | 5723395 Omen IV
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if you want the epicenter of "Half Baked" keep listening to Obama

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:50 | 5723147 5e0V2a3
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In recent days, Putin has blamed "speculators" for the ruble's declining value against the Dollar, Euro and Yen:
 
"We have seen speculative fluctuations of the rate, but I think it will end soon in the face of action taken by the central bank in response to action by speculators."
 
But recall that back in August 1971, Nixon said much the same thing:
 
"In recent weeks, the speculators have been waging an all-out war on the American dollar. The strength of a nation’s currency is based on the strength of that nation’s economy – and the American economy is by far the strongest in the world. Accordingly, I have directed the Secretary of the Treasury to take the action necessary to defend the dollar against the speculators."

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:49 | 5723148 5e0V2a3
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A longtime ally of the Russian president and former inner circle tycoon, Sergei Pugachev, charged this week that Putin was making “serfs” of businessmen as he accuses them of crimes and confiscates their wealth.

“Today in Russia there is no private property,” Pugachev said in an interview with the Financial Times. “There are only serfs who belong to Putin.”

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/putins-economy-brings-back-serfdom-2014-10-10

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 21:51 | 5723155 5e0V2a3
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Zero Hedgers, it's best to avoid despicable America at all costs and head over on the earliest flight possible to Mother Russia.

There you'll be greeted by sky-high unemployment, a life expectancy almost a decade less, a vibrant state-controlled media, a failing currency, rampant police corruption and the gulag threat if you don't knuckle under.

And because most folks are trying to flee Russia, you can even earn generous ruble incentives if you stick around and help grow the population!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/vladimir-putin/9739678/Vladimi...

There is also a program for men 180CM or taller who consent to be Judo-flipped to a mat on live TV by the diminutive Putin.

Come one, come all and help Russia rectify the greatest catastrophe of the 20th century by rebuilding our beleagured state, one land confiscation at a time!

We'll stand shoulder-to-shoulder with our comrades, break bread over borscht and enjoy a hearty Siberian winter without that infernal Obama lording it over us!

And while the ruble is sure to be worth less at the end of winter than it was at the start, we don't need no damn Audis, BMWs or Mercedeses polluting our pristine Russian roads, anyway!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJCObmm66Y0

Come!

Thu, 01/29/2015 - 22:09 | 5723231 luckylogger
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You are fuking funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wish I could have said that in my own post.

Two thumbs up...............

I cannot wait to see how many down votes you have tomorrow from people that cannot even fathom living there............

And think that Putin is the ministry of truth.......

Harde har har. what a bunch of brain washed armchair ruskies................

lol

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:20 | 5723694 5e0V2a3
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I agree, the default Zero Hedge position that anything Vlad says is the straight-up truth and Russia is 'playing the long game of chess' - like dissolving the former SU into 15 separate sovereigns and then attempting to reconstitute it, one bumbling takeover at a time - is HILARIOUS!

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 08:09 | 5724225 Max Steel
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you two scum are in your own fantasies . Armchair generals get a life .

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 00:48 | 5723751 Joe A
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And I suggest you go and join the volunteers in Ukraine and fight the rebels there with your two weeks on ZH. You came here to troll just like your buddy 123Freedom. Perhaps you can take him with you.

I don't have any illusions about Putin but this fight was brought to Russia by an ailing West that needs perpetual war to keep its inflated economies with their towering debts alive. I don't have any illusions either that America would not be willing to sacrifice Europe in order to keep their hegonomy and domination in tact.

Fri, 01/30/2015 - 08:59 | 5724316 Grouchy-Bear
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5eOV2a3 - do me a favor and lie some more...

Russia and Putin must be your wet dreams every night...

But for the record, "We are doing just fine here in Russia!"

Oh if you missed your medication dose this morning, we can forgive you, but make sure to take your next dose, at the appropriate time. Do not double up the dose, for it could lead to serious issues...

 

 

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