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The Future of Medicine? Forget Private Doctor Appointments, Group Medical Visits are Coming
Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,
According to the American Academy of Family Physicians, around 10 percent of family doctors already offer shared medical appointments, sessions that bring together a dozen or more patients with similar medical conditions to meet with a doctor for 90 minutes. With pressure from the government and insurers to bring down the cost of care while treating the increasing number of people with health insurance, patients can expect group visits to become more common. “It’s efficient. It’s economical."
– From the Bloomberg article: Your Next Doctor’s Visit Could Get Crowded
Get ready, this is coming. While this trend was already happening before the passage of Obamacare, it’s not hard to imagine that private medical consultations could soon be a thing of the past for your average American serf.
Somehow I doubt members of Congress will be having group visits any time soon…
In a typical doctor’s visit, you wait around for a while, get your vitals checked, and spend a few minutes alone in a room with a physician. It’s private and short. Some doctors, frustrated by a relentless schedule of 15-minute, one-on-one visits, are experimenting with appointments that are neither.
According to the American Academy of Family Physicians, around 10 percent of family doctors already offer shared medical appointments, sessions that bring together a dozen or more patients with similar medical conditions to meet with a doctor for 90 minutes. With pressure from the government and insurers to bring down the cost of care while treating the increasing number of people with health insurance, patients can expect group visits to become more common. “It’s efficient. It’s economical. It’s high-quality care when it’s done right,” says Edward Noffsinger, a California psychologist who created the model in the 1990s at Kaiser Permanente, the state’s largest health maintenance organization (HMO).
In a group visit, exams and tests are still conducted privately, but patients discuss their ailments in front of the group. The theory is that each patient can learn from the others’ experience, and doctors get to have a longer, more relaxed discussion instead of hopscotching to three or four exam rooms in an hour. “You have one appointment with 10 observers,” says Marianne Sumego, an internist at the Cleveland Clinic. “Patients are really getting the equivalent of 10 visits.”
They’ve already started with the hedonics. Incredible.
Here’s what is clear: Seeing several patients at once can be good for harried doctors’ finances. In 90 minutes, a physician might be able to complete five or six one-on-one visits. A group visit could allow doctors to see double that number or more in the same time, and medical assistants or nurses can take care routine aspects of care—checking patients in, taking vital signs, writing refills of medication.
Finally, the real reason for groups visits is revealed.
Often it takes a fair amount of promotion by doctors to get patients interested in exploring group appointments, which require them to sign privacy agreements. “Patients have a lifetime of expecting a one-on-one visit,” says Noffsinger. “We’re asking them to do something entirely different.”
Yeah they’re “asking” you now, but I suspect they’ll be “telling” you faster than you can say free healthcare.
Never forget, group doctors visits are what happens to a society with an increased standard of living. Keep telling yourself that.
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For other healthcare related articles, see:
Yep, You Guessed It – Obamacare Website Funneling Private Consumer Info to Private Companies
ObamaFraud: GAO Study Finds Almost All Fake Applicants are Approved for Subsidized ObamaCare
Computer Security Expert Claims he Hacked the ObamaCare Website in 4 Minutes
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If you want to know where all of this is going, including healthcare, look at how cattle are treated today.
Time to cut the cord to sick care. A good place to start is the Balch, husband and wife, nutrition med approach:
Prescription for Nutritional Healing. 5th Edition
Disclosure: I have no financial interest in this book. Wish I did;)
Diagnosis: Carousel for you Logan 5
Wonder how they get this squared up with HIPAA regulations? Doctors can't leave patient medical files laying around where somebody could see them. They can't even leave computer screens running where somebody could accidentially see patient info. But inviting a dozen of your neighbors in to discuss your medical conditions openly is cool?
What's the problem? they can't see doctors screens?
If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.
you are born without clothes
No penis transplants for you.
Unless you want gender reassignment then you're first in line.
The STD group sessions should be very interesting.
Another scene out of Idiocracy brought to life ......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIktqjfsB_0
This one goes in your mouth, this one in your butt
oh wait
no this one goes in your mouth
Every man, woman & child covered under Obamacare gets a gratis prostate exam annually, hence forth, regardless of age or gender.
Bend over, America.
Doc Quackenbush walks into a room full of people with prolapsed anuses... the 'group' meeting is over in ten seconds, as he declares, "YOU people are the biggest assholes I've EVER SEEN!" and walks out, slamming the door.
Oh, shit. I forgot to sign up for O-care...
I'm enrolling Chumbawamba for both the STD and prolapsed anus group sessions lol
By the way just kick back in the parking lot that day and see who goes in, those are people to avoid dating, that or its a great way of knowing which the easy girls are...just wait a few weeks so the antibiotics or antiviral meds kick in then you know who to bang, condom on of course.
That ain't far behind.
I just received a letter from Blue Cross stating, in their opinion, that I need to see a doc to be screened for diabetes and some other horseshit Diss-Ease, which will doubtless result in the renting of my body from the Medical Induztrial Complex. I am 47 years old, 6'0, and weigh 165lbs.
They are lucky that I continue to consent to their racket, and can fuck the fuck off should the press it any further....make no mistake...it's coming. V.I. Lenin warned is it was coming.
You just wait, it will be the noisy fat people that get all the service.
Loudest, fat bitch will get the attention of the pussified DR.
Maybe everyone gets some amount (say 2000$ to $10000) of DR care a year. Your choice to how you spend it... Above that, you are on your own. This calculation is so simple, the insurance companies would not be able to rape the public and DRs would be forced to be competent to get business.
Um, yeah. How about we cut the insurance companies out of the picture entirely?
Thats the real problem. We (patients and doctors) have allowed the middle-men to outmaneuver us. They also probably outnumber us at this point too.
there's a form for that. SIGN HERE!
I just can not wait for the collapse to get this shit over with and start [re]building a better world. But again this here will still not wake/stir the Sleeple [they no longer deserve the term sheeple], once the hunger really starts then [maybe] we'll get this party started.
“How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think.” — Adolf Hitler
Fucked up. Deny the serf basic human caregiving.
Only the Devil's spawn could practice this kinda shit
The Anti-Christ is among us*
*Yes, an eschatological reference ... while this term is common in the Abrahamic religions, the concept flows equally through just about all other religious and spiritual practices.
Athiests probably don't care, so don't bother.
BTW, if I'm there for impotence does that mean a collective circle jerk?
Ever tried to jerk a floppy weenie.....?
Blistex
It's like trying to push on a string, so I'm told. Thankfully, I don't have that issue...
If history means anything, quite a few of us will be dead and won't be rebuilding shit.
You have high expectations Nemo DeNovo to believe a better world.
Maybe not a permanent one, but I'd take a few decades of anarchy, would make a nice rest-bit from the tyranny. I am all for survival of the fittest!!!
Sharing eCONomy madness spreads.
Sharing economy in reality is taking from YOU
what was rightfully yours, and spreading it
over thousands of others without your consent.
It's an efficient highly-deceptive scheme
that majority of sheep can't even see through.
More than 1/2 of healthcare dollars are spent by the gov. Been that way for decades. Freeloaders will have no choice. In the end, it will benefit many of them because they won't get over treated by the greedy pigs. End gov. involvement, end the FED.
daveO
There's a say that goes like this:
Before speaking... Think
Before writing... Research
Otherwise you sound really stupid.
In 2013, households accounted for the largest share of healthcare spending (28 percent), followed by the federal government (26 percent), private businesses (21 percent), and state and local governments (17 percent).
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDAQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cms.gov%2FResearch-Statistics-Data-and-Systems%2FStatistics-Trends-and-Reports%2FNationalHealthExpendData%2Fdownloads%2Fhighlights.pdf&ei=oSDNVO2RBPaCsQSo6oDADQ&usg=AFQjCNFsDNWDecflmZEBhCRuNZHuCysMSg&sig2=JKyAvzpinC4iErR1qLizzQ&bvm=bv.85076809,d.cWc
Now, the question left to be answered: How can the most expensive healthcare in the world—70% more expensive than the Japanese healthcare and all the oil exploration of the word—still leaves 50 million Americans without it.
Answer:
The first responsible for the multiple healthcare coming failures should be laid at the doors of institutions that produce and sustain our educated elite; as well as, our private money (bank-money) system and corporatization of our healthcare.
Second: And the stupidity of the average person….. Don’t take my word for it. Check some of the comments.
The UK answer to this is to make sure anyone with a disease dies quickly in the name of "dignity" which actually means "cost savings".
Maher on Muslims: 'stop respecting their medieval bullsh-t’
http://mediaequalizer.com/brian-maloney/2015/01/maher-on-muslims-stop-re...
All right, guys, everyone line up for your prostate exam.
These days, you can’t even find a doctor anymore to come over when you have the flue!
No more housecalls unless it’s urgent.
And I sometimes have back issues and if I want to see a doctor for that, there’s a 4 month waiting time! 4 freaking months!
All they give you is painkillers!
There ya go "Cattle care"
That ad with the womans distorted plastic surgery face up above ^ is disturbing can you please change that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yloaBw80fV4
So now you need to show your herpes to the doctor and 9 other people? That sounds lovely.
Sounds like everyone in your group will have it too. Show-n-tell
Looks like doctors are simply copying Wall Street techniques of "rebalancing their work force" by using these group sessions. Used to be your medical info was ultra private. Only things like a subpoena would break the records open.
That's all changed now with Big Gubmint forcing doctors to use EMR [electronic med records] so anyone can hack into your health info and now this--group sessions. Why not hold the group medical sessions live on NPR radio and charge a listeners' fee and maybe get some ad revenue ?! WTF !?
Add that to the tons of paperwork insurance crap their offices have to file and Gubmint regs it's a wonder anyone still goes into that profession when they simply work for city hall for $90k/year + excellent health benefits + mucho holidays + generous pension + no heavy duty med school loan hanging over their head.
WTF ?!
Going down the Shitter fast, is what Grandpa Loki would say. We're all going to have to drive down to mexico soon for quality health care. It's all part of community organizing.
Son of Loki
Going down the Shitter fast
And we even have a date of the flush.
By Dubaibanker
I say that it will be sometime in March.....or latest by June.....countries that are NOT insulated from the collapsing EU and US banks or the USD and EUR will also go down and take their economies, banks, real estate..everything down with them and another few million will be jobless around the world before June 2015, sadly!
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-30/it-begins-energy-giant-chevron-suspends-stock-buyback-blames-cash-flow-squeeze#comment-5726005
On the plus side, there will be some new dating opportunities.
Sounds like a great dating opportunity, shared interests and all.
Yea except all the hot ones will be given a little one on one by the doc. The regular line up will lard ass mouth breathers coughing up flem.
Jezzus christ America sucks ass.
The racketeers rule the roost and they've surrounded themselves with ever expanding, concentric moats reinfored with institutions, propaganda and the national security state.
Have a nice day.
You also.
Doctors don't cure people , they fleece them
Those '90 minutes' will be down to 9 minutes . . . You can bet on that.
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Save the herd...
I like this idea kind of, as long as I get to pick the 8 other younger, acceptably attractive, single, with no children women that I would like to be part of my annual physical. Really that would be a great thing, the doctor would know I have a strong heart, good blood flow, strong set of lungs, good dexterity, probably concerned about my blurred vision and inability to focus or answer questions....but all around good health..
If they allow you to pick your fellow patients I'm all for this.
"Mr LC...this is a gynecological exam for college girls..."
"Yeah, I know. Want me to hold the light?"
I'm not a doctor, but I'll take a look!
Sorry, but there are very few healthy, straight white males left in America.
You three will have to do a joint session with the colostomy group.
ALL HAIL THE MAXIMUM LEADER!
No Marla, I already had the men's Colostomy group on Saturday nights
What makes you think ur fellow patients would want to be in ur group? If they can pick I bet it would be athletic young college fellows!
Hahahahahahahaha. Welcome to Obamacare, please wait in the waiting room with the other fifty people who have the same appointment...
One small step for Bath House
One giant Leap for the Soviet!
Comrade Bit-Chez!
That's Baffhouse.
Spelling henceforth will be a community action thang.
Heres some governmental advice to those old folk here that cant afford to heat their homes and provide a meal for themselves every day, and no, I am not making this up, Mixy doesnt make fuck all up, the government does.
Turn the heating off in every room you have, isolated at the valve, and pick the smallest room in your home and live in it, and then you can afford the 'Comforts' you need, like mother fucking food.
All the while Mr Cameron, and his fucking piece of shit mate iain duncan piece of shit smith eat and live at your expense, all on us folks.
When is enough, enough? You dont believe me? Google it.
Sickening, utter fucking cunts, the outright pox on humanity. How much longer folks????
;-)
Much longer then most of us would have ever imagined, and I think we still have a ways to go..............
And on that long enough timeline my friend, some folk will have nothing else to lose.
When nothing else makes sense, something will. You can only kick the dog so many times before he bites fucking back....
;-)
That's why I say buy and eat healthy. Yes, it may cost more for that pesticide free carrot, or whatever, but what does expensive Obamacare do for you with its high premiums and deductibles?
Splurge and get those sprouts and a green drink; it may keep you out of the doctor's office. I am looking into those overseas doctors in Thailand more and more esp in Chiang Mai where there's lots of ex pat British and some Merikan trained docs.
Fuck that! Fried chicken, double cheeseburgers, Red's donuts and Hormel corned beef hash!
I know it is not nice to wish bad things people, however I do hope that all of the low life cocksucking stupid ass "free" shit wanting assholes that were and are in favor of OBOZOCARE. Enjoy their next rectal exam lined up with 8 other people by a long and thick fingered doctor over and over again. Feeling that free love.
Grab your ankles you stupid MF'ers how's your free shit now?
We are surrounded by seriously stupid people and we all have to pay for it!
Preparing to merge Obamacare with TSA?
Sorry, sir--Obama has ordered us to make one pair of gloves last all day.
Why do you need a doctor anyway. The "doc" is just an insurance whore!
The remedy could be voted on by the fellow patients. It is done everywhere else anyway.
The vote will be to see who pays the doc ... so dress like a smelly bum.
I've been going to a doctor since the 80s who is cash only. Pay 100.00 and he'll see me as long as it takes. Now with ACA that makes his plan no longer workable except for us that still won't sign up for ACA but unfortunatley he now has to pay for the infrastructure to accomodate the .gov. I've never had anything seriously wrong but if I did would probably climb into bed and wait for the inevitable and if necessary there's always the belt.
That will be the way back from Obamacare. Prices will collapse about 80% and with it GDP, at least 25%.
That is a serious depression by definition. No politician would allow that unless being forced.
My dad - no joke here - got a notice from either Medicare or TriCare that he needed to show at some doctor's office for a gynocological exam. Just to fuck with them, he went.
Govt is fucking retarded.
A civil war between the Free-Individualists and the coercive-collectivists is inevitable.
The free-individualists are far more effective with the weapons of Freedom :-))
free stuff for all, ahhah
Stick 90 people in a room, they don't get treated and the doctor bills every one of them $1000. $90k to the "Doctor". Nothing for the serfs.
That is the future of US medical care.
Why not go for the ultimate cost savings - 1000 patients hooked up by vidoeconfrence to 1 doctor, say, in India. And that can be recorded and made available to 1,000,000 more.
As it is, privacy has been eliminated by infinite NSA spying. As Snowden predicted, the concept of privacy will be alien soon enough.
That's how your X-ray is read today--by Dr. Hadjibaba--except you get an American-sized bill, and the executive suite gets 7-figure bonuses for their craftiness.
I'll only go to an MD now for physical trauma. I just don't want these goddamn people in my life at all.
Fad story and short sighted.
This is an old story about how doctors are trying to cut costs because of obamacare.
To get to the point - where we are headed is self imposed death panels (yes I said it first).
People will foregoe medical visites and medicines because of the cost.
Then they eventually have to se a doctor when things get bad enough. That is when they face the government death panel.
I heard most Americans use the Internet to get better advice about their ailments.
In many countries, family doctors still visit their patients at home.
If you have syphilis, are you going to discuss with a dozen of other patients, half of them female, the hot girl you've contracted the disease from?
Dostor till visit their patients at home in Russia if you are sick and can't leave home,
if you have a high temperature - 40+ degrees or something really bad but not deadly.
Slightly OT, but not really when you consider how this is all related:
(Gracious hat tip to 'Romney Wordsworth' above for his contributions and 'handle')
I just finished watching that 1961 episode of the Twilight Zone (The Obsolete Man) again last night, for the (I lost count) time. I would encourage everyone here to watch it again - or perhaps, for the first time. It is a timeless story, owing in no small part to the fact that human nature is in itself, timeless. The virtues, vices and Dangers of what individuals and groups of ideologues can 'accomplish' when they set their mind to it, and in the process, garner the support of the gullible masses to their bidding. Extremely pertinent to the current era it is. I highly recommend to the audience here to watch it. Who knows, in due course even videos of fact-based fiction from half a century ago, may be 'banned' as they too, will have been deemed 'obsolete'.
If you put Rod Serling, Steven King, Orwell, Kafka, and Dickens in the same room, they couldn't top the shit that's going on in present day America.
Surely only one insurance company will be handling all the paperwork.
At one time, state institutions for the retarded, mentally ill and the like used to "gang shower" the residents. It was quicker, cheaper and easier to stuff them all into the showers and hose them down.
0bamacare/CastroCare was designed to fail and create chaos from it's very beginning.
Shit's going to get very ugly in healthcare, then the unthinking people watching the idiot box will all desperately beg Uncle Sugar for a solution.
0bama or whatever other puppet is in the Offal Office will then enact the "solution" they have waiting in a drawer, just like the fucking PATRIOT act. Lately al these "solutions" are trending towards MOAR Fascism, if you actually believe they're gonna "stick it to the eeeevil insurance corporations" you're dreaming
Ordo ab Chao (Order Out of Chaos), first create the chaos, then create the (new) order
So now we care collectivizing not just the payment for health care, but the health care itself.
I have a suggestion for even greater profits for the “harried” healthcare industry making money too fast to be handled hand over fist; instead of using individual IVs to administer the medicine, pour the liquefied medicine into a trough, similarly to the way cows and pigs are fed their medicines. This way, the medicine can be dispensed for perhaps a dozen or more people at a time.
The Question, of course, is Will the one productive pig who is paying the cost of the medicine for all the others sharing his trough have his fee reduced under Obama’s give-everything-to the masses healthcare program?
Or will the undeserving bourgeoisie simply be stamped into the gravel under the departing heels of his deserving benefactees?
My Experiences With National Healthcare by Linda Schrock Taylor
July 28, 2009 Obama’s castle-in-the-air, pie-in-the-sky, wish-upon-a-star health care would never, could never, and should never be appropriate for Americans. As Dr. Seuss might put it, “not in a hush, not in a rush; not even if read; not even if…Red!” ObamaCare is doomed to fail and Congressional members who support it will be the next to go. Leave. Lose elections. Be relegated to life again in the real world.
We frequently hear that Britons, Canadians, French, Swedes and others are often ill-served by their health systems. I understand their concerns and their experiences because I, myself, lived under a national health program for a year and found the experience utterly awful. Chances are that the care has grown far worse since I left it 32 years ago.
I was accepted into a masters program at the University of Manchester, England for the school year 1976-77. I sold my house, packed my bags, and “went abroad.” At that time I was a Teacher of the Deaf; Manchester was the first university to ever train teachers of the deaf; and I wanted to broaden my skill and knowledge base. Included in the out-of-country tuition costs was health coverage through the National Health system in England. I was relieved to learn that I had any kind of coverage at all, then thought no more about it. A few weeks later my nonchalance would change.
During a trip to Edinburgh, Scotland, to attend the International Festival, I walked and rewalked the Royal Mile, putting far too much stress on my vehicle-spoiled joints. Within a couple days of my return to Manchester, I was almost crippled and so went “to hospital.” Once there, I was put into a waiting room that reminded me of a picture I had seen of suffering in mental hospitals, circa 1880 or so. The “room” was about the size of a small town gymnasium, high ceiling as well, but cold and unappealing. It was full--standing room only--of people with all kinds of emergency conditions waiting endlessly to be seen by a nurse, let alone a doctor.
After hours of painful standing, I decided to ask about the holdup and walked on through the treatment doors. A nurse stopped my advance so I asked for either 1) a timely visit by a doctor or 2) the phone number for a doctor with a private practice. I received neither. The nurse shepherded me to a quiet corner where she advised me to be more patient. She explained the costs I would face if I went elsewhere. She at least found me a chair and I…waited.
The local doctors’ offices provided more shocking experiences. The service was faster but the treatments were nonexistent---unless prescriptions were all that one wanted. In fact, I do not recall ever leaving the office without a prescription, even when the decisions were highly suspect. Pills were passed out like candy. Public Pacifiers.
Appointments with a doctor were a hoot--once I learned the procedures. The first visit, however, was shocking and confusing. I had phoned to schedule an appointment then upon reporting in, I was given a 12-inch colored piece of the material used for name signs in offices. Mine happened to be red with a number cut out instead of a name. Say…34. I went to the waiting room where I joined a large group of people, all of whom were staring at a large wooden board with about 6 colored lights on it. I observed carefully so as to see what would be expected when my turn arrived. A buzzer went off, the blue light began flashing, and someone stood to ask those around him if they had blue with a number lower than his own. No one responded, so he left the room. On it went with yellow, green, orange lights flashing but then the red light flashed. Thus far, the herd had trained me well, so I stood and asked: “Does anyone have Red before number 34?” No one did, so I left the room…but that was as far as I had been trained. Someone finally noticed my confusion and told me that I must go down a long hall and report to the….RED DOOR. But of course! Dr. Red Door. Names were not important. Just procedures.
The appointments were five minutes in length and the patient sat in a chair in front of the doctor’s desk. The doctor was never the same person on a subsequent visit, except for one time when I specifically requested that I see the same doctor when I returned. I was given the appointment, but not with good humor. Later, during the winter, I could barely breathe because of bronchitis. I boldly asked the doctor if he would please listen to my lungs to check if I might have pneumonia. My request threw him quite off-guard and he abruptly said, “You ‘ave to go to ‘ospital for something like that!” I could not believe my ears and I expressed my displeasure with a “health care” system that had no graduations of care between “Speak with doctor in a bank-like setting” and “Be admitted to hospital”!
With reluctance and displeasure, he arose, dug around to find a stethoscope, and listened to my lungs. That was the only time that a national health doctor ever actually physically touched me. How very different than my wonderful internist who I had just left in Colorado.
One of my classmates tried to convince me that the financial costs outweighed the long waits and minimal care. His was an impossible “sell” for I stubbornly maintained that nothing in life is free, especially doctors and hospitals. Finally he admitted that he was taxed a minimal fee that was taken out of his paycheck each month. I happened to have my last pay stub from Colorado so I suggested that he bring one of his the next day and we compare our costs. He did, so we did. We were both single; both homeowners; both the same age; neither had dependents. My cost for Blue Cross private coverage was $18 and some odd cents per month. His tax for national health care was…$18 and odd some cents per month. The argument ended once he saw real data instead of government propaganda..
One thing that I will give to national health care is that it provides much fodder for jokers and comedians. ...
But most often we felt fear for our well-being under the “care” of national health. We understood that we only had minimal control over our own bodies. During a week of study in The Netherlands, one member of our group had a bad shock; possibly even a nervous breakdown. The rest of us decided that the best way to help the person was to…hide the problem! We feared that Holland might run a similar Snake Pit for health care and that we might lose our friend into the bowels of some such system. We took turns sitting up all night with our friend; never letting the person away from our sides; laughed heartedly at the goofy “jokes” the person was telling and acting out. We worked hard to hide the affliction on the flight back to England and we had some scary moments at customs. We were worried that our friend would be nabbed by national health and be lost in some mental ward. We made it safely back to Manchester then the two nuns in our group handled the care and counseling through the Catholic Church. Whew! We made it past the health care system and into safety!
The fear was awful, even when we were young and healthy. Now we are in our 60s and 70s. When Obama says that 20 percent of the population is responsible for a huge percent of medical costs in America…it is time for our age group to realize that HE MEANS US: the older; the elder; the retired. I cringe and revisit those old fears that my friend would be snatched by the health authorities; be lost in a black hole of care. In Lois Lowry’s book, The Giver, any person unable to contribute to the society is “released”--i.e. killed, snuffed out, put to sleep…EUTHANIZED. I do not consider it farfetched to wonder if Obama, with his reassurances to save money, may not be thinking of the cost cutting solutions offered in The Giver, or in This Perfect Day by Ira Levin, or in….socialist and communist organization.
When such awfulness comes to pass, it will not be only the elderly that are “released,” but also the feeble, the retarded, the crippled, the handicapped, THE USELESS. The thought certainly gives one pause. Keep in mind that it is we who are costing the government more than we are contributing. Then it will be our children’s generations. Then it will be our grandchildren’s generation. And then it will be….
Think about it. Think about it long and hard. Are you willing to be ousted; released; murdered---for the supposed benefit of the rest of society? I, for one, am not.
Linda Schrock Taylor is a retired special education teacher; a reading specialist; former homeschooling parent; and outspoken constitutionalist. She is slowly writing her first book on remediating reading skills.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/opinion/955-linda-schrock-taylor/1533-my-experiences-with-national-healthcare
Every filthy whorin' thievin' lyin' congressman, senator, cabinet member, and supreme court "justice" (especially roberts) needs to be subjected to this particular brand of medical care.
Same for POSPOTUS.
Future of Medicine?
When people take accountability for their lives and realize the Medical industry is designed to make them sick and keep them sick: PREVENTION is the only sane route, i.e. eating organic non-gmo food, exercising regularly, getting deep rest, and living a simple life-stlye that uplifts, nourishes and inspires.
Sorry to hear that your husband committed suicide yesterday Mrs. Jones, but it appears there was a mix up of medical records in our last group session and your husband did not have inoperable brain cancer after all. Happy Holidays........
Don't get too excited as this has been tried a few times and we have little issue of HIPAA to think about with privacy. As a matter of fact, that is one of the huge stumbling blocks that adds to this not working well. What I do want to draw your attention to though is the $70 billion said fraud that insurers have collected from us and this has not received enough attention so I'm trying to fix that.
With Medicare Advantage who better than to know the tricks on how to get their quants in place and rig a risk system, insurers, the king of the risk fiddlers. For 5 years the risk has gone up with Medicare Advantage which is billed by the insurers to Medicare, a replacement for standard Medicare if you will as the Advantage plans come with a pharmacy benefit manager. CMS is stuck on this and pay attention to who's running Medicare today when Tavenner leaves..it's good old Andy Slavitt from United Healthcare. He was the former CEO of a company named Ingenix, now renamed Optum Insights. Under his guidance as a CEO for 15 years they worked the algos and short paid doctors on out of network claim settlements. I'll give you a link on that. Also worth a mention is what does the NHS in the UK and Medicare have in common? Both are being run by former Untied Healthcare executives. For years and years I have been writing about this company and warming people how they work. Remember Dr. Zeke Emanuel who wants to die at 75? He's one of their biggest fans and promotes them all the time, look it up on the web. Here's the $70 billion we paid for due to insurer risk fiddlers. You wonder what their stock would look like without additional revenue. Remember too your premiums paid to insurers also help finance stock buy backs and insurers have some big ones. CMS themselves, after the 5 years as it took them to audit found out they have been ripped big.
http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2014/08/cms-discovers-that-insurers-offer...
Here's the back history on the AMA class action lawsuit. I have a couple former CMS employees who have just filled my ears with even more. I'm the only one out there that connects the dots with United on everything. These folks printed out my blog articles and took them to their Congressmen before they ever made contact with me.
http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2012/02/ama-announces-doctors-and-patients-can.html
Again go to my blog and search United or Optum and you'll have a huge awakening on a lot of what they do with subsidiaries and right now they are basically running Medicare and this goes back to when Hillary hired a former United Executive by the name of Lois Quam, a little bit after the DOJ criminal derivatives investigation and penalties for United finished. Still the largest derivatives settlement on record, I think.
So yes, this company will push everything to the cheap, they don't even pay their doctors very well. In California where I am, most of the MDs now that see United Healthcare patients through the use of complex contracts get paid at rates less than Medicare. Anyone through an insurance exchange that buys a United policy, their doctors get paid a shade above Medicaid. You're warned for that one, so be careful as finding a doctor is hard. United fired tons of Medicare Advantage doctors in many states too. No reason given, just analyics algos say "you're fired". Link below tells you more about how insurers use their quants for these models, probably some work at insurers who used to work at banks and high frequency trading companies as they do change verticals. Yeah so expect this BS like group visits to be promoted by United. Again go search my blog as it's the only place you'll find the dirt as major media flowers up everything and doesn't connect dots.
http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2014/08/the-secret-scoring-of-americas.html
So don't worry too much on this one as HIPAA will help keep this to a minimum if it really even takes off. The AAFP is a good MD group and I have had some communication with them but again don't get too whacked out on what they say on this topic.
I thought doctors were being replaced by robots?
You cannot pay or sue a robot.
But But But I'm just here for my checkup not to look at 9 cases of hemorrhoids - yuk
edit - should have said butt butt butt butt.....
Why stop there?
How about group toilet stalls, group surgeries, group dental appointments, group gyno exams, group honeymoons? After all, we're all just one big happy family, right?
Where can I check the box for the group honeymoon lol (and do I have to bring my wife?)
Are their any tools left who don't understand that the core objective of Barrycare is to seperate the working middle class from the all of the $$$ (and then some) they and their employers used to pay for THEIR health care, turn said $$$ over to the MAN, and put them in a long line with the PROLS and wetbacks to take whatever the MAN says you get?
While we are on the subject, has anyone capped Goober yet?
the military used to have the best system. they had sick call. if you were sick you would go to sick call, the doctor would tell you you were sick, maybe prescribed some meds and sent you on your way. it took all of a coupla minutes and the hypochondriacs had a place to go. of course, there was no money involved so there was no admin costs, paid for by the taxpayer through the dod budget, socialized medicine.
Well, they already do this in the developing world. All the oldsters in the village will be gathered together for the day when the cataract surgery team comes in and does a whole shitload of cataract surgeries. I've read that it really works well in India, with women getting tubal ligations (/s).
Okay boys, line up. And when I tell you to, cough.
Merican Medicine
And all this is to be followed by group burials.
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wiat a second!
let's not be apocalyptic here. Conventional medicine/organized medicine dropped the ball decades ago. We spend a lot for poor outcomes in health care. Has any respondent had a medical visit in the last year or two? Physicians and extenders are tied up in filling electronic medical records and pay less attention to the patient.
Group medical appointments are well received by patients who feel they are receiving much more time and attention from their physician and appropriate paramedicals (dieticians, social workers). There is a huge motivational effect resulting from peer interaction between patients. The type appointment does not work for new acute problems but works best for dealing with chronic problems-- diabetes, angina, hypertension--
Insurers are resistant to implementing group medical appointments but there is a wide range of experience showing outcomes are MUCH better---
Obamacare with strangle delivery of health care-- lesss focus on the patient and more attention to the demands of the system---