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Greek Social Contagion: Tens Of Thousands Rally In Support Of Spain's Anti-Austerity Podemos Party
Less than a week ago we warned, "today Athens, tomorrow Madrid," and sure enough, emboldened by the success of Syriza in Greece, the people of Spain have turned out in their tens of thousands in Madrid at a demonstration called by the insurgent Spanish leftist party Podemos. As The Independent reports, Podemos, which means "we can", has surged into first place in opinion polls in the few months since it was set up in the summer of 2014. It is now ahead of the centre-right Popular Party and centre-left Spanish Socialist Workers’ Party in many opinion polls. Podemos’s policies include a universal basic income, increased democracy, crackdowns on tax avoidance, and increased public control over the economy. Most worrying for the status-quo huggers in Brussels, Podemos has also wants to reform the European Union, describing the current euro arrangement as a "trap."
As we noted earlier this week, while Alexis Tsipras name (and face) are now well known, we suspect few are yet fully aware of Pablo Iglesias, general secretary of Spain's left-wing Podemos party...
“Winds of democratic change are blowing in Europe.
The change in Greece is called Syriza, in Spain it’s called Podemos.
The Hope is coming.
Hasta La Victoria. SYRIZA – PODEMOS … Venceremos! ” (Until victory – We will win!“
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And sure enough, here are the winds of social change...
One marcher, Jose Maria Jacobo, told the Reuters news agency that Podemos supporters wanted to fight back against the country’s political class.
"It is the only way to kick out all of those politicians who are taking everything from us. They even try to take our dignity away from us. But that they won't take that from us."
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Pablo Iglesias, the leader of Spanish anti-austerity party Podemos, pledged to restructure the nation’s debt if he can convert his opinion-poll lead into election victory, following the example of his ally, Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras. “It has to be a rigorous restructuring,” Iglesias, 36, told thousands of supporters at a rally in Madrid on Saturday. The deal “should be appropriate for the fourth-largest euro economy,” he added.
The party has also pledged to take on Spain’s highly entrenched establishment, dubbed “la casta”, which has dominated politics in the country since the fall of fascism there.
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Burn down the banks.
FUCK YOU BANKSTERS
NO MORE OF YOUR FIAT SYSTEM
... and not a fucking word from the MSM.
The end of the "Dream" is coming Ghordo. Prepare yourself.
The lazy asses are screaming...truly entertaining indeed
Time for bread helmets?
Spain + Greece = Europe's scum
So many terrorists and so few police...
...Can never happen in the USSA....NDAA law...No public demonstrations allowed.
Time to send in NATO and Bono to nail things down before this spreads like ebola...
You don't need NATO for that. Just break'em into little pieces. Then you can control them much better. They will start chanting "Visca Catalunya!" very soon again.
Come on - you all know the Latin phrase "Divide et impera". Spain is not a unified country. You don't need military action to break them apart.
ZH - birthplace of the "WeToldYouSo" party. Where's our first rally? I'm bringing pizza pies.
edit - and a couple boxes o'Joe too ;)
Podemos, which means "we can"
Sounds too much like Michelle O's, "Yes we can!"
Why protest, when you got a big-ass TV, iToys, Gaming and Blogging? Oh SNAP!
BLOGGING IS THE NEW PROTESTING: TPTB want you to bitch & moan here, not on the streets.
Rage on, you clever, armchair Revolutionaries.
p.s. Should I have added a {sarc} tag?
Scum might be harsh. "Dreamers" might be more charitable.
Spaniard: "Podemos borrow euros from foreign banks that we will never repay to fund our guaranteed basic income. Podemos !! Podemos !!"
Reality: "No puedes."
Lmao Greece and Spain will open the door for other memeber countries to do the exact same, mark my words more countries will follow soon, Ireland, Portugal, Italy or maybe even richer countries like Germany or The Netherlands.
People in the EU are starting to get sick of those unelected officials and their crony palls, I can see civil war breaking out in Europe if this charade goes on for much longer once they realize their peaceful demonstrations fall onto deaf ears.
Say what you like but them Spaniards really know how to organise HUGE marches.
Cant remember seeing anything like it in the US since the 60's
The US are so weak, they can't even get to the large march stage.
That is because everyone is getting fat using their EBT cards sitting at home watching Game of Thrones.
someone MUST take care of me for the rest of my life so i NEVER have to WORK!!! i feel so sorry for the spoiled brats in the west!
Relax, Haus. These guys in Greece and Spain are just useful idiots for he ruling system. The empire will throw the Greeks under the bus so badly, all those other countries will cave in.
Unless the Russians or the Chinese step in.
The US has been "buying" its friends for years. Seems like a great opportunity for the Russians/Chinese to employ the same tactic -- but purchasing at a fire sale.
The Russians have not much money. And the Chinese don´t give free money but want to purchase hard assets like ports. But hey, if those guys are ready to pay for Greeks, i´ll be glad to get rid of them.
"In Breaking News, China's first Naval port outside of the Chinese Mainland opens in 2020 South of Athens in Vouliagmeni
in conjunction with the Russian Naval port already established in 2016 there. This was only made possible by the emergency liquidity injected into Greece on condition they leave the EU and EMZ."
Remember how the MSM made the crowds at the Occupy Wall Street marches look bigger because of the camera angles...
Then that pesky alternative media published their helicopter shots....
Some sanity in it all, finally....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3RHbhhldoE
Go on... Tell us how you really feel, SickDollar!
Go on: FUCK YOU TO POWER
I'm a little slow. What is universal basic income supposed to mean? It sounds like everybody gets an income no matter what. Is there some thought that they would have a universal basic job?
It's a euphemism for nobody works.
Do I still get my radioactive sushi?
Are we having a winter revolution in Europe ???
Too cold. All revolutions start March-ish. Heat up by May. Take a siesta vacation in August. Then close up shop October.
Unless they elect a flaming homo and his transgender Wookie, then it's revolution for eight straight years.
+100
good analysis lol
Something very big is happening.
Let's hope its contagious.
They are flying the Greek flag as a sign of unity. See this is Europe's unity, not a EU that dictates everything to them including monetary and fiscal policy.
"Let's hope its contagious."
Only for the sake of getting it over as quickly as possible. I don't think we're going to like it very much during the transition period as globalism breaks down.
I'd agree with that, but in the long run, it will have been a relatively small price to pay.
...and an unavoidable price to pay. Everyone knows that the system as it is is unsustainable. Everyone knows pain is coming. The longer we wait, the more it will hurt.
Even the stupid douchebag pundits and hedgies, who have made $billions front-running the Fed, are whining about the future now that the Fed isn't buttering their bread anymore. Fuck them.
Jump, you fuckers.
I don't think that the price is going to be small, but I do think that regardless of our desire to put this off, we will pay it, one way or another. I say get it over with and look to the future. Others want to hold on to the present, which will only increase the price paid at the end.
"The future waits for no one."
Good comment.
I just wonder, will the chance actually bring a world order that will be different from the one we have today, or are we going to see the same Bernanke's, Obummers and other shitholes rule the world as they fucking do today?
We will see them attempt to rule us. Whether they are successful depends on how well we teach future generations. They will eventually succeed, and the cycle will start anew. Thomas Jefferson was prescient with his quote about the tree of liberty needing to be watered.
"Let's hope its contagious."
Agreed. Because this is the only way the corrupt, rigged system will fall. The banksters are not going to admit (let alone do anything about) the failure of endless QE, ZIRP, and NIRP.
It is contagious, it's spreading to every country in Europe even Germany because there's discontent starting too eventually most people in the EU will have enough.
It's just the next chapter in the world of divide and conquer, where an incoherent polarization of the masses creates problem after problem in the form of so-called solutions.
As long as all of the options offered avoid seeking out the real perpetrators (who back these very collectives, of course), the oligarchs and their political tools are the only winners.
"Let's hope its contagious."
Speaking of which... WTF ever happened to all the EBOLA news and hype? Is it all contained and finished?
Who's next?
Washington.
Si podemos. Yes we can......default.
they already were unable to pay.
at least these guys are going to be honest and admit it, and not turn their people into slaves for the ecb eurocrats, extending the pain and indentured servitude into perpetuity.
Exactly atleast they are being honest that every country in the EU is flat broke just like the USA. Only the credit worthyness of Germany is holding Europe up by a thread.
Unofficial debt to GDP ratio's are at 400% in many countries in the European Monetary Union, they are done for this is just failiure in slow motion what we are seeing.
Eventually the EU are going to have riots on a very large scale and maybe even war, I don't see any serious reform happening soon beside centralizing power even more and maintaining the status quo.
You need new politician's. Not the Troika puppets.!
"Burn, Baby, Burn" H. Rap Brown
"Burn this shit down" Mickie "the Gentle Giant's" Brown's stepfather
Too bad when he said that he wasn't approximately 800 miles due east.
Next up Wall Street.
This will drive the plebes crazy. Superbowl tickets have been rehypothecated!
Hundreds Lose Out On Super Bowl Ticketshttp://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/story/_/id/12255886/hundreds-super-...
THE HORROR!
Disco inferno!
The party has also pledged to take on Spain’s highly entrenched establishment, dubbed “la casta”, which has dominated politics in the country since the fall of fascism there.
Since the fall of fascism? How funny. I guess someone forgot to tell the fascists that they fell. lulz
You're kill'in it Buzz. Keep up the good work! :-D
I joked about a week ago with the question: does Syriza have a direct line to Maduro for economic advise?... turns out these guys have that line.
Wind my @$$, thats a hurricane bitchez.
Shame that we won't see 'Merrikans ever rallying like this. Too stupid, too uninformed, and too busy lying on the couch watching Honey Boo Boo and eating their Cheetos while they are being raped. When the last pile of dirt is shoveled on them, they will be fully entombed in their graves, wondering what the fuck hit them.
Uhhhhh.......were you just born yesterday, or were you still hiding in the closet back in 2008?
Nobody sees the parrallel here?
If you had extreme leftists demonstrating in DC this board would be going ballistic... somehow extreme left in Europe is super cool on this board.
Left, right. Democrat, republican. Working, laid off on benefits. White, brown. Life, choice. God, secular. Native, immigrant.
All distractions. Its all of us against the bankers. Theres 6.5 Billion of us, and about 1000 of them.
I like your worldview, problem is 99% of the population views the world in a different way. Most of those demonstrators are probably there because they are pissed off at Germany and want more free stuff. They could care less about central banks or fiat currencies. They probably want them to print MOAR.
Do you think we can mollify them with Obamaphones?
Doesn't matter if they want free stuff or not. Doesn't matter if they think free market 'capitalists' (instead of the actual crony bankster criminals) are the cause of their woes. And the banksters won't be able to steal the labor of other people in the EU to give to them, using 'money' printed outta thin air. Their dream of a United Europe as stepping stone to a NWO will crash. The dreams of megalomaniacs who want to control everyone and everything all the time has always crashed throughout history.
That which is irrational, unsustainable, and against human nature eventually fails.
Only trouble is thru history they couldn't vaporize remotely with a satellite or blow you to bits with a drone.
just a dumb ass comment, these people want JOBS, like everyone else.
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nope, extreme leftists are bad long-term and destroy the economy.
however, what they are doing now is standing up to the tyrants in brussels, and restoring their peoples' dignity, which is a good first step to rebuilding their nations.
i would rather have greece and spain run by their own people, however mistakenly their leftist notions are, than plundered and manipulated by eurocrats in brussels and turned into a slave state.
I believe the probability is higher that one year from now the Brussel bureaucrats will still be in charge and the demonstrators much like Occupy WallStreet will be demoralized and even more disenfranchised.
No great loss
Are you mutherfuckers(bankers) reading this and looking at the pics? Pretty soon you wont be safe in public. Will the police protect you from 100,000 angry people? Who will protect you? Soon the Europeans will raid the armories. Soon the police will aid the people, instead of being the attack dogs for the banking scum.
Nigga puhleez. You think this is their first rodeo?
LOL, they'll leave a few sacrificial ghetto Jews for the peasants to lynch, and move their operations to Asia, or South America, or lay low for a while, enjoying the spoils.
Where are the paid for jackboots? Oh, that's coming soon.
Quess its too much trouble for the american sheeple to wake up and hit the streets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaI-9rYJPxw
Fuck you, man. There's a game on.
They did, back in 2008 and once again in 2014.
Both times they got fucked by both parties.
They didn't really wake up. Those were just brief stirs.
This time it just became too hard to ignore the alarm.
It won't be marching in the streets when the real wakeup occurs. Think Donetsk, not Selma. And vote from the rooftops.
Rally to have the government take more of other people's money to give to you. Lazy, frick'n aye-holes.
Yeah, I know... Quite a few on here hate working and blame everyone but themselves for their issues. Get a job. Stop working on the degree in lesbian studies (nine year plan) and do something real.
Sure... Shut down the fascist/socialist/communist/totalitarian government and start a republic with a capitalist system that allows all to prosper. But, no... they'll install more big government "leaders" who will make matters even worse.
Amen
What's a little austerity between friends? They must all be Catalan Independents....
The Troikans should be carefull.... Unelected heads roll off the guillotine, just as well as elected heads.
God bless them. Lets hope we see people lined up in every market plaza, in every market square, across the debt-ridden world, year upon year and season after season, until they end fractional reserve banking and debt-based ponzi schemes.
Austerity does not work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQuHSQXxsjM
This is healthy and a broader discussion about living within means and precisely what those means are is useful.
Buena suerte
US will incinerate a war in EU. US jews cannot accept, what happens in the EU.
"universal basic income, increased democracy, crackdowns on tax avoidance, and increased public control over the economy."
So in other words their policies are doomed to failure. Can't have "increased democracy" along with "increased public control over the economy."
Spain and Greece are fucked no matter what happens. The beauty will be watching Brussels go down with them.
The ancient silver drachma lasted for centuries.
Socialist experiments last until the parasites have killed the host.
Yet here we are.
I feel sorry for the Goldman & Troika Trannies who will toss and turn in their beds with endless sleepless nights ahead. Boo fucking Hoo!
Fingers crossed an UPSURGE in Banksta suicides will grace Z/H threads over the coming months.
On a more uplifting note expect some Good News from the up and coming Greek, Spanish and Italian ' Olive Crop Reports '. Bumper harvest expected this year, Bah!
You heard it here first so get on early.
Making a demonstration and going broke is not a solution.
I don't see their offer for monetary reform or anything. Simply saying: we won't pay back money you lend us and please give us more because than we'll starve. That is not nor responsible, nor democratic, nor revolution. That simply stupidity.
If only the Plebs & Great Unwashed were as ' RESPONSIBLE ' as TBTF! s/c
I am for monetary reform, I am for that private banks don't create new money based on debt they give out. Look for POSITIVE MONEY.
But I don't see those people demanding such change - they simply ask, give us money. And that's all. That is no revolution. That is not how te break free from the system.
That's simply stupid.
Wrap you Filthy Mouth around this BigBoy, FleaDumb123
Ahhh... An intelligent "protestor" ("gimme more of your frick'n money") states her argument. LOL!
I don't hear anyone saying give us more. In fact their saying "We dont want any more"
If freedom crackers say these people are asking for more money, than it must be so!!!
Are you trying to bring cognition to a straw-man fight???
Greece has a long tradition of commie/socialism, Spain less so but it's still there (many senior Spaniards lament the passing of Franco), ditto Portugal. Same over most of Latin America - all socialist, must be something about Latino culture.
It should be obvious that their solution to current sovereign insolvency is likely to be Leftist, although Tsipras seems to talk sense. The alternative crony capitalism is proven not to work and the IMF and EU are a waste of space.
We are witnessing a catastrophic failure of politics across Europe. Those responsible must pay the price for their greed, corruption, incompetence and criminality.
What I really really like in Greece and now Spain is their stated intention to purge their respective Establishments because that is the root of evil which has wrecked their societies and economies and creamed off millions to build ever more monuments to socialism.
Whatever shakes the Establishment has my vote. At this point in time, the left-right paradigm has lost its meaning.
Exactly. Left right red and blue is meaningless at this point. Make the bond holders take their loses and leave the rest of us the fuck alone. Whatever happened to "risk". Seems like the only people who have to take a loss are the hard working honest productive "folk".
Well said. Bravo!
I agree with you and indaknow in that whichever political party is in office they all practice statism/big government. As I've often put it: "they're two sides of the same face" (statism aka socialism). This tends to make the Left/Right paradigm meaningless.
However, we should not allow ourselves into being brainwashed into believing that a true Right of centre philosophy does not exist, because it does. And when the current statist paradigm finally disintegrates - as it surely will - we might then see the re-emergence of a proper system of constitutional government. That will then reignite the confusing argument as to whether fascism sits on the far Right as many people claim or on the far Left (as I believe since it's just another model of totalitarianism).
The statist/socialist solution to Greece's financial problems is to keep borrowing more and more money from the Troika/IMF etc, ie to keep kicking the can down the road. This is what we've seen up to now and it has worsened Greece's Debt-to-GDP situation. As Tsipras said himself "Greece does not have a liquidity problem, Greece is insolvent". He's right. The Right solution is to deal wih the underlying causes which will mean even more severe hardship for the Greek people as their financial affairs are brought back under control.
I have a feeling that when Greeks voted for Syriza they believed there was an easy way out of this mess which would end austerity etc. There is not. At this moment, Tsipras is making some interesting noises but how it rolls out remains to be seen. A Greek default coupled to quitting the EZ and re-introducing the Drachma looks to be one piece of the solution but this will send shudders around the European/US banking system and will be fought tooth and nail by Brussels, Berlin and Frankfurt etc.
The peasants are revolting.
i.e. Nothing has changed.
I like fair for all also.
Where did the bankers and elite get the money?
Answer they printed it "money from nothing".
Question: what does a banker do that a 5,000 dollar computer couldn't do?
Answer: nothing!
Well a computer can't spend the stolen money on hookers and booze, or the destruction of his fellow man.
But you may have missed something what they are paying back "bail out money went to the banks"
In the USA bail out Trillions went to the shorts that bought insurance(AIG) and the wages are down and cost of food up.
I mean what the heck how many boats, private jets, mistresses do they need when people are hungry and suffering.
Peace
Freedom123 says, "Simply saying: we won't pay back money you lend us and please give us more because than we'll starve. That is not nor responsible, nor democratic, nor revolution. That simply stupidity."
Are you refering to the Bankers who lost all the money given to them by the people who saved and the Fed? I agree then. Those idiots are asking for even more Bailout money.
Makes you wonder if the Bankers have been lending out money to unproductive Governments instead of lending to productive people. Did they? How stupid can they be?
Governments never do anything unless there is money for their own cronies. Oh, maybe Government men are Banker cronies. In that case, they are not so stupid.
They expect people to be stupid to pay back the loans this idiots took up. Well time for change in Government then. So whatever is happening in Greece and Spain makes sense.
The question is what other tricks the Bankers have to make people pay.
Faster than you can say ' contagion! '.
Brussels we have a problem, the fucking people are starting to wake up and reject our unelected arses!
Stupidity is contagious
Can't this wait until after the Superbowl? Katy Perry is performing at halftime.
Klaatu barada nikto
Is that Charlie Sheen in the first pic....just behind Pablo? lol.
Burn the banks down and start over
At this rate, soon there will be more countries in need of regime change than there are CIA handlers to do it.
Watch out for job ads to work in the "CIA Regime Change Dept".
Safety in numbers :)
"The party has also pledged to take on Spain’s highly entrenched establishment, dubbed “la casta”, which has dominated politics in the country since the fall of fascism there."
Now they're talking.
Next: Italy, Portugal and France with Britain trailing behind.
It's time for a new Establishment across Europe.
Britain? I'm not so sure. UKIP is gaining ground at an accelerating rate.
Farage will not achieve victory. At best he will get a few MPs. Even if he did, he would find immense resistance from the Establishment to any major reforms. Brits underestimete the power of the unelected security apparatus, Met Police and other major agencies of The State.
Private companys that are insolvent go bankrupt all the time. that is an integral part of Capitalism. Why shouldnt country's that are insolvent go bankrupt and get a fresh start? do you people think that throwing more unpayable debt on insolvent Countrys to help out the banksters and put the Populace into poverty is the solution?. It is this attitude that no one is allowed to default that is the problem, and if you dont see that then You are the ones that are fucked up
A photo of one bankster hanging from a lamppost is worth a thousand photos like those above. Protesting will not suffice.
The best way to quell this foolishness would be to send over Lurch and James Taylor they could could do a little song and dance, that should put things right!
Did you notice those red-yellow-blue flags in the pictures? That's the flag of ANDORRA, the small mountain state run by bankers! The mouse that roared.
what i like is that the felllow in greece is 40 the fellow here is 36. a fucking men get rid of the fucking fossils and put some younger people with ideas. fuck the old shit that makes a few rich and the rest suffer. lets create a new world that is transparent . open give our kids and grandkids hope for a better future not a life of work slavery fuck the rich the bankers and the politicains. if i left a group out that neede to be insulted i apologize i will try and do better in the future
You probably want a free fucking Obama phone too, eh? How about free this and free that? Fucking millennial fucking fuckty fuck. You'll get nothing but poverty and hopelessness with that attitude. I owe you nothing, no one owes you anything. Get out there and make something of yourself....and btw, you're not special-your mom lied. You're just a fucking cog in the wheel. Accept your averageness and stop playing video games and smoking dope.
I'll also add that I'm all for citizen's protesting the current liberal spending policy of all of Europe. The Socialist infestation is what's killing growth. My problem is electing a MORE Socialist party is NOT the answer. It would be like electing Obama again for the 2nd time. How fucking stupid are people....pretty fucking stupid apparently. The situation is hopeless, let the riots begin. I'm ready, how about you liberal socialist fuckers?
Fuck you Troika!
Just looking at Podemos; founded in 2014 by Pablo Iglesias, currently a member of the European Parliament.
- I guess they want to end austerity & curtail the Treaty of Lisbon, so if we look, it shows us the Treaties that got the EU into Trouble, Signatories: EU Member States (EU-28)
The Treaty of Lisbon (initially known as the Reform Treaty) is an international agreement which amends the two treaties which form the constitutional basis of the European Union (EU). The Treaty of Lisbon was signed by the EU member states on 13 December 2007, and entered into force on 1 December 2009.[2] It amends the Maastricht Treaty (1993), which also is known as the Treaty on European Union, and the Treaty of Rome (1958), which also is known as the Treaty establishing the European Community (TEEC).[3] At Lisbon, the Treaty of Rome was renamed to the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU).
(a more powerful European Parliament forming a bicameral legislature alongside the Council of Ministers)
(The stated aim of the treaty was "to complete the process started by the Treaty of Amsterdam [1997] and by the Treaty of Nice [2001])
Podemos is currently the 2nd largest Spanish party by number of members;[7]
Some Good Left Wing Policies:
- Healing the economy places emphasis on public control, includes poverty reduction and social dignity via a basic income for everyone. It includes lobbying controls and tax-avoidance remedies for large corporations and multinational organisations, as well as promotion of smaller enterprises.
- Promoting liberty, equality and fraternity is about breaking down barriers across Europe and allowing people to cooperate fairly without either intelligence gathering or social inhibitions.
- Redefining sovereignty implies revoking or curtailing the Treaty of Lisbon, abandoning memoranda of understanding, withdrawing from some free trade agreements and promoting referenda on any major constitutional reform.
- Recover the land deals with reduction of fossil fuel consumption, promotion of public transport and renewable energy initiatives, reduction of industrial cash crop agriculture and stimulus of local food production by small and medium enterprises
I personally don't know what recover the land deals means. I guess they want Land Use to serve the people better...
Sorry forgot the S/. They call themselves Left Wing. But as you can see 90% of ZH will support them.
Gotta watch-out for those Treaties, like NAFTA OR
U.S. passports on verge of elimination?
Soros-funded plan champions 'North American Union' by Jerome Corsi.
http://www.wnd.com/2015/01/u-s-passports-on-verge-of-elimination/#I8I7Du...
Left wings are more capitalist noadays than all these cronies in the FED, the ECB, the IMF and the World Bank.
having lived in Spain for over a year I can speak to the culture. The younger generation is more worthless than America's youth. They have no idea how bad things will get with this guidance.
Do you compare the depressed, futureless Spaniards to the 'all is well'-natural-optimistic Americans?
"Bring out your dead bankers, bring out your dead bankers, .......... " We can only hope....
Viva Espana! (sorry, wife is Spanish). The legend of the 300 Spartans has infected the Conquistadors. It's a great start to bringing down the banksters. Come on America, wake up and smell the coffee! The Revolution of our lives has begun. The time is now! Ireland and Portugal will be next, followed by Italy. Come on countymen, trash the bankster scum, drag them through the streets and hang their carcasses from the trees of Central Park and the light poles of DC. If the Govt won'y do it, then the people must.
Sorry, I'm on a rant.
haha, since the "fall" of fascism.
Wow, large turn out for the "other peoples' money" rally. Syriza, Podemos, and EU are in a close race of who is the biggest parasitic bunch of losers, photo finish.
It was their money. Their previous governments stole it from them and squandered it and borrowed more. You must be proud of your governments ongoing theft of your money. you should just keep voting for them moar and moar and moar
Oh I missed the part where socialists were not all about taking from others by force. I don't vote because I'm not fond of committing aggression against others. What a dumbass response.
Dont blame people for their governments complete disregard for their own citizens and complete disregard for sound fiscal policy or I will blame you for your own governments disregard for you. how would you like to shoulder the blame for your governments actions? hmm thought so.
These people are out in public rallying in support of parties whose goals are to put them under socialist rule; since I'm not doing that I don't really see how that's an apples to apples comparison. These people endorse their governments' complete disregard for sound fiscal policy genius. Supporting Syriza/Podemos because they screw over the EU is like saying Stalin was a great guy cause he was an enemy of Hitler. I don't know why it's hard for people to see they're all scum.
These people endorse their governments' complete disregard for sound fiscal policy genius. Apparently Syriza/Podemos does not support the previous policys. have you not heard that they do not accept the way things were? Are you afraid of write downs and or bankruptcies/ are you not a capitalist? because as far as I remember that is part and parcel of being one. By the way I am far more conservative than you may imagine. your arguments seem more rooted in bigotry and belief than sound judgment. thank God we are all free to believe whatever we want, whether logical or idiotic.
You apparently haven't read what these parties stand for. This very website had Syriza's 40 moron principles; I suggest you read them and tell me how much better off Greeks will be under them. They're going to steal even more than the IMF/EU did. Either way the citizens are getting screwed. Your ideal of unicorns and lollipops arising from this is laughable.
"Either way the citizens are getting screwed."
That point we can agree on. but a continuation of throwing more debt on a insolvent country and expecting a favourable result is asinine and foolish. especially when we all know its just to bailout the bond holders, because thats not capitalism.
nice chatting, I love the fight club
The Oligarchs love tools like you.
Stop being intellectually lazy. 40 years of socializing private debt, heaping trillions of corporate and financial services industry debt onto public balance and you are pulling the "free stuff" indignation out of your ass.
Pulling it out of my ass? Have you read what Syriza/Podemos stand for? Intellectually lazy, says the pot to the kettle. Oh I'm sorry, it's all Goldman's fault, uh, something about Jews, something about bankers...is that better?
You have no damn idea what you are talking about. $23 trillion dollars since 2008. Free stuff? Yeah, somebody got some free stuff. Somebody got lots of socialism.
It's painfully obvious you are economically illiterate and only spout off what your radio says to you. Also, stop up arrowing yourself. It's unbecoming.
I'm economcially illterate, says the cashier at Burger King. Way to address anything I said.
Has the Black Swan woken, and is called Syriza or Podemos?
"Either way the citizens are getting screwed."
That point we can agree on. but a continuation of throwing more debt on a insolvent country and expecting a favourable result is asinine and foolish. especially when we all know its just to bailout the bond holders, because thats not capitalism.
nice chatting, I love the fight club
I just fail to see how given what Syriza/Podemos support the governments won't be throwing on more debt. Take care.