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How Ukraine Can Save China From Its Existential Threat (Spoiler Alert: Girls)

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In China last year, just over 115 boys were born for every 100 girls, and since sonogram technology was introduced to China in the 1980s - allowing families to determine a baby’s gender during the first few months of pregnancy - the gender imbalance in the world's largest economy has grown colossal. However, as Beijing News recently explained, there may be a solution for China's 34 million woman shortfall... Ukrainian women, as "their economy is depressed but beautiful women are running rampant." While Foreign Policy notes that the best destinations for Chinese men to find spouses are Japan and South Korea, there appears to be plenty of fish in the sea, at least outside China. Oh the wonders of Ricardian comparative advantage - Ukraine needs an export business (and produces - from what we have heard - attractive women) and China needs to import 'women' (to fill its massive shortfall). Global economic growth problems, solved...

 

As Foreign Policy reports,

"Their economy is depressed but beautiful women are running rampant,” the state-run Beijing News reported Jan. 22 in a story suggesting that Ukrainian women could be the solution to China’s woman shortage. The piece, illustrated with charts, bubbles, and cartoon illustrations of lonely Chinese men, was a breezy attempt to make light of China’s missing women and the severe gender imbalance caused by couples aborting female fetuses in favor of boys. So widespread is the practice that it has badly skewed the country’s sex ratio: The global average is around 105 boys born for every 100 girls; but in China last year, just over 115 boys were born for every 100 girls.

 

The problem has been brewing since sonogram technology was introduced to China in the 1980s, allowing families to determine a baby’s gender during the first few months of pregnancy. Combined with the country’s restrictive family-planning policies — until recently, most urban families were only allowed a single child in order to curtail population growth — and a traditional preference for sons, the newfound ability to practice sex-selective abortion has resulted in one of the world’s highest gender imbalances. The topic flared anew in the public mind after the National Bureau of Statistics announced the latest population figures on Jan. 20, noting that at the end of 2014 China had 701 million men and 667 million women, a shortfall of nearly 34 million women.

 

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China is not alone in these cultural predilections. Indian social scientist Ravinder Kaur wrote in an August 2013 paper that “the common response” in both China and India “when the connection between sex selection and bride shortage is pointed out is that rather than allow daughters to be born, they would resort to importing brides.” Kaur also wrote that bride shortages in China and India can lead to “kidnap marriage,” which includes “deception and enticement” and “luring women for marriage into high sex ratio areas.”

 

To address the problem, China has resorted to propaganda campaigns extolling the virtues of daughters and offering cash incentives for couples who have them. These measures have spurred more female births, but not enough — China’s gender imbalance is still “the most serious in the world and has lasted for the longest time and affected the largest number of people,” China’s National Health and Family Planning Commission said in a Jan. 21 statement.

Beijing News provided a tongue-in-cheek infographic explaining the problems and potential solutions... (our Chinese is not great but the pictures seemed to speak for themselves)...

 

Encourage feather-boah tickling parties...?

 

or marry a Ukrainian woman...

 

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Be careful though when 'googling' Mail Order Brides - Ukraine...

 

Because, from what we are told, not all Ukrainian women look like this...

 

 

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Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:03 | 5730417 Yen Cross
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 No MOAR Bitchez! Bitchez

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:19 | 5730455 somecallmetimmah
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Hooray for dead babies! Kill! Kill! Kill!

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:28 | 5730480 Yen Cross
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Blue Eyed Babies.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:29 | 5730488 somecallmetimmah
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Sorry, the vast majority of "terminated pregnancies" are Afrkun-Uh-'murikan.

We keep all the blue-eyed people. ;-)

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:53 | 5730534 sunaJ
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Interesting, because the ad on the sideline to this page is urging me to "fall in love with asian ripe beauties." 

 

Chnlove.com

 

I guess as an entitled American, I am free to choose my bitchez regardless of global demographic concerns?

 

 

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:04 | 5730562 Publicus
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"Well it worked for this Chinese guy. He thought Ukraine was in Africa and didn't know how to speak the local language and look what happened to him

http://www.chinasmack.com/2014/stories/chinese-mans-life-with-beautiful-ukrainian-wife-envied.html

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:48 | 5730685 Slave
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More race mixing. Just what the Chosen ordered.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 00:35 | 5730777 TruxtonSpangler
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Ukarinian bitchez are only pretty until 25years, 30 tops. Then they quickly revert to hildabeasts.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 01:27 | 5730859 FlyinHigh
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"Because, from what we are told, not all Ukrainian women look like this..."

Yes, they are very many Beautiful Ukrainian Woman.

But, you should know this, They are mostly only interested in "White Men".

I'll just let it go at that.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 02:46 | 5730957 cnmcdee
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... check .. for .. dick ... first! ..

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 04:09 | 5731011 dreadnaught
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might....be...a....good...idea...from Latin America..... 

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 08:08 | 5731158 Latina Lover
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For the Ukie women, marrying a Chinese man is a far better alternative than living in a perpetually depressed and destroyed country.  I visited the Ukraine in 2009. It reminded me of Detroit, with dilapidated buildings, terrible roads, gritty stores and lots of grim looking people  It was a shithole then, and I can only imagine how bad it is now.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 08:18 | 5731171 cnmcdee
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I married a Ukrainian Women.  I do not have any idea how they could insert so many stubborn mule genes into such a beautiful woman.  Now if I go to date a woman and she is Ukranian she might as well of said she has a dick - I was burned that bad in the end.  I think mgtowhq.com should be a pre-requisite before any guy can date.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 09:54 | 5731268 grunk
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GMO Ukrainian women.

Monsanto's got its fingers into everything.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 09:57 | 5731275 CH1
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Any culture that kills its women deserves to die.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 10:35 | 5731319 greyghost
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OHHH WHAT A RELIEF....i was just sure this was another simon says go live live among the native peoples of some stink hole on the planet. can't wait for simon says "buy swamp land in the sahara"!!!!!!! live like a king for only 25 cents a day, because that is all you will have left after he and his cool fiends are done with you

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 12:22 | 5731529 post turtle saver
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cannot give this enough plusses... and whoever downvoted you is a fucking troglodyte

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 23:31 | 5733446 A Nanny Moose
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All those single and horny, yet short single men would make a formidable army.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 13:39 | 5731712 JLee2027
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I married a Ukrainian Women.  I do not have any idea how they could insert so many stubborn mule genes into such a beautiful woman

I married a Lithuanian, same thing. Hmmm.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 12:19 | 5731526 post turtle saver
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you're confusing Ukraine with Thailand

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 04:05 | 5731008 cigarEngineer
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At $4000 GDP per capita, they don't really care what color your dick is. The poverty in Ukraine and the Balkans is staggering. Many beautiful girls have arrangemenents to sleep with a wealthy benefactor (e.g., sex once a week and he pays for rent, so it's regular and she doesn't feel like a prostitute but it's similar).

But depending on your standards, there aren't that many beautiful girls in Ukraine, because Ukrainians are some of the dumbest people in the world and you couldn't stand dealing with them. It's the Latinas in Central and South America you should look for. Especially if you bring one back to Europe... everyone will be jealous and looking because she will look so exotic to them.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 05:36 | 5731073 random999
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Eh.. you are saying ukrainians are dumber than latinas?

He he eeh hehee eehhh...

 

You need to travel more and learn more languages! sad mate, sad.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 08:10 | 5731164 Latina Lover
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The Ukie women are much better educated and definitely smarter, but more treacherous.  Nearly every moment, they are trying to figure how to scam, even for the littlest things. For example, I took a girl to a restaurant and received an outrageous bill.  I assumed that the owner was cheating me blind, but I also found out that the girl also got a cut of the restaurant bill. This type of low level theft is common in the Ukraine, from getting cheated at the gas station, at the hotel, at the night clubs, or purchasing goods in stores. It never ends.

 

Latina's on the other hand, are rarely this devious.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 09:28 | 5731244 Kobe Beef
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Don't pay. Slip out. Bitch is on her own. She can pay for her own mistakes.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 10:10 | 5731292 The Big Ching-aso
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What do ya get when ya marry a Chinaman with a Ukrainian gal?

A gal that steals his laundry.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 10:36 | 5731329 greyghost
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go ask simon

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 04:07 | 5731009 dreadnaught
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you mean fat babooshka types with brooms?

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 05:34 | 5731070 HowdyDoody
Sun, 02/01/2015 - 08:21 | 5731176 cnmcdee
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Go full mule don't hold back!

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 00:52 | 5730804 Talcott
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Mother nature like's genetic diversity....

..it creates resilience.

 

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 05:36 | 5731071 HowdyDoody
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Inbreeding is not good - it can lead to physical and mental defects in the long term, say over thousands of years.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 01:28 | 5730860 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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People falling in love is not a conspiracy or a political statement.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 04:54 | 5731046 MEAN BUSINESS
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True. But people procreating is, in reality, now both. It's now an artificial world after all?

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 09:11 | 5731216 kaiserhoff
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Gloria Steinham and all the man-hating fem bitches disagree.

"The personal is political."

You can look it up.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 11:34 | 5731435 Calmyourself
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EML, thanks for the sensitive mangina side of the argument.  I dont know what we would do without your femiandrogynous take..

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:18 | 5730611 TeamDepends
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Uh, er, um, how ripe?

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 09:04 | 5731218 kaiserhoff
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There has to be grass on the playing field;)

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 01:12 | 5730831 Antifaschistische
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I'm one of the guys that is almost always defending China, it's culture, traditions, etc.

...but, millions of Chinese girls know Chinese men/boys treat women like shit and they want something better.

...fortunately, American boys are still riding on the reputation of their predecessors.

...the Ukranian ladies are tired of their abusive constantly drunk dudes....so, they're going Chinese....while millions of Chinese ladies are trying to go American.

...I say work out some arbitrage...based on pounds.  A pound for pound swap of Chinese ladies for our fat American chicks.

 

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 08:10 | 5731167 Latina Lover
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Agreed. I'd take a Chinese girl over our maximum entitled/minium output american girls anytime.  Having lived outside of the USA for years, the brassiness and crudeness of american women is disgusting.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 10:10 | 5731249 Kobe Beef
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Does anyone actually trust a woman in the 21st century?

Seriously. Even Goldman Sachs won't take my kids, my home, my life savings, and make me pay for it.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 13:47 | 5731730 JLee2027
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Cut the bitch off cold money wise, get off the grid and prove you're man enough to sit in a jail cell if you have to prove it. That's what I had to do. They leave you no choice actually. 

In the end, the state will fold before she will. Pretty sad really. And that's why you have to do it.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 01:15 | 5730838 Antifaschistische
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oh...FYI, the websites that will charge for every single message and nose wipe are money making machines exploiting idiot Americans....the Chinese have figured out how to sell fake women just as effectively as every other fake (seemingly high quality) item they sell to the same idiots.   More power to them....I'm just sayin...

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 13:39 | 5731708 Hoi_Polloi
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Try Adblock

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:51 | 5730538 Harbanger
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No we make transgender kids so we can count them either way.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:20 | 5730616 TeamDepends
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It's a win/win!

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:29 | 5730487 wesson
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+1 for STD

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:31 | 5730490 Bunghole
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How do you make a dead baby float?

Add two scoops of ice cream to one scoop dead baby.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:55 | 5730545 sunaJ
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What's funnier than a dead baby?

A dead baby in a clown suit.

 

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:07 | 5730574 Zero Point
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How do you unload a truckload of dead babies?
With a pitchfork.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 00:34 | 5730774 El Vaquero
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Not a lot of love for the dead baby jokes, eh?

 

What's blue and sits in a corner? 

A dead baby in a plastic bag.

 

 

 

What's green and sits in a corner?

The same baby, 3 weeks later.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 00:58 | 5730813 trulz4lulz
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How do you make a dead baby?

Cum inside Hillary Clinton.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 01:30 | 5730866 El Vaquero
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These are dead baby nokes, not beastiality jokes!

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 08:11 | 5731168 Earl Slaughter-...
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What's more gross than a barrel filled with dead babies?

The live one eating its way from the bottom.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 09:10 | 5731227 kaiserhoff
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There is nothing more GAY,

  than dead baby jokes, except maybe a pink shirt.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 11:01 | 5731368 El Vaquero
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The dead baby jokes will continue until morale improves.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 11:40 | 5731449 Obamamerica
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remember that the proceeds from every Black baby aborted in a Planned Parenthood abortion mill help fund the DNC.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 02:29 | 5730939 garypaul
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Chinese and Ukrainian. Go long cabbage?

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 05:04 | 5731054 OldPhart
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I'm getting a bit long in the tooth.  All I'm looking for is respiration.

Anything beyond that is a bonus.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 10:19 | 5731300 geno-econ
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The Pimp Author of this article should go sell his mother first---- no doubt he is half Chinese and works for Goldman Sachs 

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:02 | 5730418 MarketAnarchist
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Will the ukrainian women accept money for their services in Yuan or Dollars?

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:22 | 5730466 Ignatius
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More importantly, if I go this way, will I have to suppress my Putin man-love in her presence?

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:46 | 5730678 TeamDepends
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As long as little Putin is standing tall in your lap you can venture as deep into the honey-bear trap as you dare....

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:29 | 5730481 prudent1nvestor
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Hmm. Considering 90% of the ads for Ukrainian women are on ZH, I think they only accept phyz

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:27 | 5730482 prudent1nvestor
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Hmm. Considering 90% of the ads for Ukrainian women are on ZH, I think they only accept phyz

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:22 | 5730619 Yen Cross
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Fizz or Phyz?

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:34 | 5730655 dexter_morgan
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jizz

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 02:04 | 5730917 Yen Cross
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Getting junked over one syllable? That's not right Bitchez.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:42 | 5730513 noben
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It's about killing or breeding blue/green eyed blondes (Nordic race) out of existence.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 01:02 | 5730820 Canoe Driver
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The hegemony of blue-eyed nations was based entirely on their wealth. When the richest people are Chinese, the most attractive women will procreate with Chinese men. Then, the entire aesthetic will shift. The whole world will look more Asian. Do not forget that the Romans once traded the English like chattel stock.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 02:20 | 5730932 JuliaS
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The whole world already looks more Asian. Asians are the majority. There are more of them on the planet than any other race, so by definition, they are the norm and it is the rest of us who are rare and weird-looking.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 23:02 | 5731005 Canoe Driver
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The whole world will look more Asian than it already looks, if the Asians continue to concentrate wealth.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 09:06 | 5731220 Kobe Beef
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Asians never went to the moon.

Supremacy, bitchez.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 09:18 | 5731234 Gold Dog
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The trains run east and west.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 09:36 | 5731258 Kobe Beef
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Trains don't go to the moon.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 15:02 | 5731936 Sokhmate
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NASA does 

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 12:26 | 5731542 post turtle saver
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do not forget Greeks were once fair haired and blue eyed, either

fucking Turks

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 01:41 | 5730873 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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There exist "non-white" people with natural blond hair and/or blue eyes. What white supremacist nutcases like yourself advocate is inbreeding, outright. Ironically, the old Viking sagas speak in highly abhorrent terms of inbreeding.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 14:15 | 5731815 TeamDepends
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"White supremacist nutcase", huh? And what led you to that conclusion? You are a Kool-Aid drinking socialist who believes whites are responsible for ALL the evil EVER perpetrated on earth, that's what. Why do you hate your own people so much? Did the white girls never give you the time of day?

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 01:42 | 5730881 JustTheTTIP
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Cute western thinking ;)-

 

Once they are married they accpet property as payment considering shortly after you die of an unfortuante heartattack.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:03 | 5730419 MarketAnarchist
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Because I prefer paying in Gold.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:09 | 5730433 Greenskeeper_Carl
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sorry but thats kinda dumb. If you can get your mail order bride/prostitute to accept dollars or yuan, why the hell would you want to give her any of your gold????

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:37 | 5730485 Publicus
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That's the reason why gold will never be currency.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:08 | 5730427 Yen Cross
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 Russian and Yuk women are beautiful. Why does capitalism have to destroy humanity?

 People pay for "picture perfect" babies and still exploite natural selection.

 I see a movie here. A Syfy series?

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:35 | 5730502 Never One Roach
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Ukies women are tops as well as Estonian and Lithuanian gals; part of Russia's motive for desiring these nations --- for their knockout women!

 

Hard to see a "10" Ukies with one of those little Chinese peasants, however. Just can't see it. The ABCs I know in merika want merikans for one reason or another. First, merikan men usually treat them alot better from what they tell me.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:07 | 5730523 Yen Cross
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   Let me tell you something about Eastern Asian women. They are proud, and take shit from no~one or thing.

 They are intensely loyal, for good reasons.

 If you cheat on " Eastern Asian Woman", expect to be neutered/ Bitchez

 Sometimes you make mistakes.

 Let me be PLACIDLY clear.  Russian Women are naughty.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:27 | 5730635 seek
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LOL, by the size of the red number, looks like you touched a nerve tonight, YC!

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:43 | 5730668 Yen Cross
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 The children are playing. Rates aren't going up, and we're living in dark days Seek.

 Children of The Corn 2015.

  It should be interesting next week, as funds rebalance.

 One thing I find perplexing is the lack concentration on Q-4 macro earnings. Stay nimble my friend.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 00:38 | 5730781 El Vaquero
Sun, 02/01/2015 - 00:59 | 5730819 Son of Loki
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Must be the NAACP [Natioanl Association for the Advancement of Chinese Peoples] down-voting the above. I'm not an expert on the issues but I do hear the Chinese men complaining alot about those "Western Devils" "stealing" their women.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 01:13 | 5730832 Yen Cross
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 You Nailed it. Actually the kids were getting a bit disruptive.

  Okay gentlemen. CL covered on Friday? Short covering EOM profits?

 Based on the commodoties Index. 

  I'd be picking up a few Copper contracts after the Asian markets open.    New York  6:00 pm Sunday.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 01:39 | 5730877 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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Just like how white supremacists go berserk over couples like me and my wife or black men marrying white women. The irony here is that us "mixed" couples are relatively rare (single-digit numbers even in today's age), so I never understood why we provoke such angst, insecurity and hatred among these people.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 01:48 | 5730890 Yen Cross
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 Your name is so Sexual Eirik. I has many colored friends atracted to other species.

 Eric, be happy. I know some wicked tanned girlz. If ya know what I'm saying?

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 09:29 | 5731246 Son of Loki
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Guys! Beauty is ONLY skin deep ... and fades with time.

 

The real question is whether a man wants to eat heavy stuffed cabbage OR tasty dumplings the rest of his life.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 11:43 | 5731455 Calmyourself
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Erik, that is not we dislike you.. No, we have many other reasons to think your a metrosexual femi biotch, pronoiunced beeeotchh.  Does not matter who your married too..

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 03:52 | 5730997 Yen Cross
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  El Vaquero  You need to lay off the New Mexico swamp gas.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 01:26 | 5730840 Lore
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I've only known four women from that region personally, but found all four cunning and two-faced.  In one case, the woman manipulated, neglected and abused her partner until he died from simple pneumonia, allowing her to secure his estate.  Outsiders see her only as a poor, sweet, innocent, bereaved widower, never having seen her dark side.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:26 | 5730629 seek
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They're very attractive, yes, but from my experience Ukranian women also all business and quite ruthless. Granted, my sample size is small.

Though I wouldn't describe them as outright disloyal, they've extremely opportunistic and motivated to climb the social/financial latter, e.g. if what appears to be a better deal comes along, they'll be gone in an instant. They're also phenomenal negotiators at getting their way in a very crafty chess-playing sort of way. I think is is all a side effect of Uke culture and the pragmatics of survival in that country.  For all these reasons... they're also on my avoid list for the most part.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:41 | 5730669 rccalhoun
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brice jenner is available

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:56 | 5730698 kareninca
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I would bet a lot of money that the Ukrainian women whom you would end up meeting are not even slightly representative of typical Ukrainian women.  How could they be?  The American women I know who sign onto "marry a millionare" matchmaking sites are not typical of the American women I know.  And please don't tell me that American women are all gold-diggers; most aren't; it's that many guys are such morons that they are attracted to gold-diggers (because gold-diggers know just what to do to attract moron guys).

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 00:07 | 5730723 seek
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I'm sure there's a massive selection bias, since my experience was with women that had already made it into the US. But that bias would exist for virtually any US male looking abroad.

The other dynamic I'm positive is at play is that honestly most Ukrainian women in the US are going to blow their US-native competition out of the water, so they have signficantly more opportunities presented to them than American women would, and naturally would pick the better ones. So it's not necessarily explicit gold-digging, but it may appear that way.

(Just a trivial data point to support my assertion:  48% of women in the US are obese. The same figure for the Ukraine is 19%, so the average ukrainian woman will appear more desirable than the average american woman just based on weight alone. Small wonder they'd get propositioned by wealthy, attractive american males at rates well beyond american women.)

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 00:58 | 5730801 kareninca
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Actually, 35 percent of American women are obese; about the same percentage as American men (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_the_United_States).  If you look at the obesity rates of American women who are in the same age range as the Ukrainian women who come here, there might not be such a huge difference.  Especially if you remove from the sample Hispanic American and black American women; they have much higher obesity rates than caucasian American women.   I would bet that in that age range (youngish), the white American women are a bit overweight, not obese, while the Ukrainian women are skinny.

It's funny that you would describe both sets of women as competing and choosing among opportunities.  The American women I know basically care about how a guy looks; that matters far more than his assets:  wealthy and attractive are not the same thing to them at all.  I have a friend in her 20s who is gorgeous; she dated a series of smart'n homely guys since she thought she ought to (she had no interest in the rich ones; she thought they were nasty).  Finally I told her "look, there is no law that the guys you date have to be homely.  You can date a handsome man.  It's allowed."  She she did, and it was like a switch went off in her head  -  she was finally choosing on the right basis!!!!  She immediately got pregnant and married to the poor handsome shlub (the whole thing is now a disaster).

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 01:32 | 5730870 Lore
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Obesity is a technical term that applies to a subset of the larger segment that most people would simply label as FAT.  Visit a southern state, and one of the first observations is that practically everybody is FAT!  You don't make that same observation in Ukraine. 

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 09:14 | 5731230 Kobe Beef
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google: female hypergamy

If you don't know this yet, then stay in Disney World. There's lots of fairy tales, and you never have to face reality.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 22:21 | 5733243 Lore
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Please clarify.  Are you suggesting that gold-digging and fatness are connected somehow?  Practically speaking, one would think that poor health lends itself to lowered expectations.  I have known nice fat-asses and some not-so-nice ones.  I strongly suspect family upbringing and general character are much more relevant.  That, and bad selection on the part of the husband. You don't want to get bitten?  Avoid swimming with sharks.

The snotty Disney reference eludes me, except to say that it brings to mind MORE memories of negative experiences with fat, stereotypical Ugly Americans (not to be confused with American people in general).

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 11:04 | 5731373 CoastalCowboy
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I'm Southern and have a normal BMI, and I stick out like a sore thumb. 

You ought to hear the excuses they make for it, and some are actually proud of it  "I just can't go w/o my sweet tea or 2 liters of coke a day." is a very common excuse.  Another one is "I have gland problems.". No, sugar, your problem is eating too many damn doughnuts.  "The house that Budweiser built." is a perennial favorite of the redneck Bubbas as they proudly pat their massive beer bellies.  They mock me for drinking just plain purified water.  They actually get disturbed that I drink water and not sugar filled crap.

There are visibly more land whales here per square mile than anywhere else I've visited in this country.  I go into a grocery stores and look into these people's carts as they waddle around the isles.  It's disgusting.  Even the teenagers are fat, whereas when I was a teen very few were.  I think to myself what are these kids going to look like at 45.

Dating sucks for anyone not attacted to fat or obese people down here.  Go long motorized scooters.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 11:19 | 5731405 Kobe Beef
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Look on the bright side..

..when the Big One drops, it'll all smell like bacon.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 11:31 | 5731433 CoastalCowboy
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Plus it limits the hypergamous action too.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 12:32 | 5731551 post turtle saver
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"I have gland problems."

yeah, saliva gland...

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 13:59 | 5731780 Ballin D
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Those numbers are based on BMI which is a joke. Its literally weight/height with no consideration at all for gender.

A 5'10 male at 185 has a chance of being fit as fuck but is actually obese by WHO standards.  A 5'10 chick @ 185 is just plain fat in > 99% of cases.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 00:09 | 5730703 serotonindumptruck
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While it likely isn't the case now, up until a couple of years ago, a typical, butt-ugly Amerikan male could get a Ukrainian bride relatively inexpensively. She would also make every attempt to allow him to impregnate her.

However, once he got her back stateside, she would immediately begin networking with other naturalized Ukrainian women, lawyer up with known Russian nationals, and promptly sue you for divorce, seizing all of your assets in the process.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 08:08 | 5731166 GCT
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Sero that applies to almost any foreign bride.  Eddie Murphy said it best.  You bring them to America they hook up with thier home girls and want half real fast like. +100 if I could.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 09:16 | 5731232 Kobe Beef
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female hypergamy

It's what they are. Men are romantics. Women are just opportunists.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 00:19 | 5730744 TeamDepends
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"Beauty skin deep, ugly non-refundable."

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 05:01 | 5731049 August
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The only Ukranian woman I've dated was a looker, but a bit of a sociopath, being among several other things, a dealer in stolen jewelry.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 00:28 | 5730767 combatsnoopy
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Asian mix might be good for Ukraine.  I knew a russian/ukraine couple.  She was "cute" in the face but Asian FAT.   I wouldn't call little Nazi people "geniuses" either.  

 

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 04:02 | 5731004 dreadnaught
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KIEV used to be hooker central and the girls would fuck for a dollar. or so im told. then a group of young women (all very hot) started an anti exploitation group called FEMEN, to bring Kiev's sorry state to light

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:13 | 5730432 Dead Canary
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Wasn't that a cheezy science fiction movie from the 50's:

"China needs women"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grbv-zBRK1A

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:11 | 5730435 Romney Wordsworth
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hookers & brow

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:36 | 5730660 dexter_morgan
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fa ra ra ra ra

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:11 | 5730436 FieldingMellish
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That's what I call "out of the box" thinking! ... or is it "in the box"?

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:53 | 5730440 Creepy A. Cracker
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"Their economy is depressed but beautiful women are running rampant,”

Beautiful women running rampant sounds dangerous,  I'll gladly help out.  Send a few of the beautiful blondes my way.  They can stop running and will no longer have to be rampant.  If they look and/or act like Hillary(!) (fat, terribly wrinkled, kankles, shriek when they talk, yell a lot) they will be returned to sender.

I am creepy, after all.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:13 | 5730442 LetsGetPhysical
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Why the hell would Ukrainian women want to breed with Chinese men? Please no.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:19 | 5730451 Dead Canary
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Is it for the giant penis's?

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:29 | 5730483 nmewn
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lol

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:39 | 5730507 Never One Roach
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"Size doesn't matter."

~ Old Confucius Saying

 

"The Bigger the Better."

~ Old Ukrainian Adage

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 01:15 | 5730834 Handful of Dust
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There's something to be said about tradition.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 04:25 | 5731029 SilverRhino
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You can't make butter with a toothpick.

- Dr Roof .... American sex therapist

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:07 | 5730578 Yen Cross
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 That avatar is priceless.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:13 | 5730443 Anarchy 99
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nice, mmm......lips? lower right corner

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:15 | 5730445 nmewn
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No point in going into WHY there is a female shortage in China I suppose ;-)

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 01:15 | 5730833 MEAN BUSINESS
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Not much point nmewn, unless there's some evidence to suggest that there was no 'one child policy' or boys were not the preferred choice.

Ever seen the movie Children Of Men?

I mentioned it a month ago here on ZH to PT December 30 at 1:23

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 04:13 | 5731012 MEAN BUSINESS
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Hope it was enjoyable and as the song said as the last few credits rolled by: "Cunts are still ruling the world" LOL!

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 07:49 | 5731143 nmewn
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Yep, its pretty well documented...

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMhpr051833

...central planning at its very finest.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 11:52 | 5731471 Calmyourself
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Shortage,no.   The solution more WOAR, yes.  Putin had best keep that Siberian frontier well fortified, the Dragon is going to want a taste after the Spratley's are under control.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:15 | 5730448 Jackson B. Nimble
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The chinese are very xenophobic and will only marry outside of their race if they have to, as it will cause a lack of face.  The chinese male/female ratio has been skewed by the one child policy.  This has been going on for many years and the chinese male population is totally out of whack with the available females.  This makes the chinese the most dangerous country in the world.  They have millions of extra males and what better way to balance the ratio than war.  The chinese need a cheap source of energy to allow themselves to grow and meet the promises the chi-coms have made to the restless population and they can afford to lose a few million restless males.  This does not bode well for the near future.  How is that fall out shelter coming along?

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:22 | 5730467 somecallmetimmah
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Hmmmmm....what if we dropped a "gay marriage bomb" on those fuckers? That'll show 'em!

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 01:37 | 5730874 Lore
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He's right about the xenophobia.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 09:20 | 5731236 Kobe Beef
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There's a tactical thermonuclear app for that.

You think nobody else has thought of this already?

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 12:36 | 5731561 post turtle saver
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this is why we have fusion bombs

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:15 | 5730449 Jackson B. Nimble
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The chinese are very xenophobic and will only marry outside of their race if they have to, as it will cause a lack of face.  The chinese male/female ratio has been skewed by the one child policy.  This has been going on for many years and the chinese male population is totally out of whack with the available females.  This makes the chinese the most dangerous country in the world.  They have millions of extra males and what better way to balance the ratio than war.  The chinese need a cheap source of energy to allow themselves to grow and meet the promises the chi-coms have made to the restless population and they can afford to lose a few million restless males.  This does not bode well for the near future.  How is that fall out shelter coming along?

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:15 | 5730450 enloe creek
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You are homer simpson's stupider cousin or maybe a chromosome got lost somewhere in your genes but this is some useless BS

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:20 | 5730461 Who was that ma...
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But wouldn't that create a gender imbalance in Ukrain with all the good looking Ukrainian women having gone to China leaving only a few skaggy sweathogs behind?

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:24 | 5730468 somecallmetimmah
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Silly! That's what the war is for!

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:26 | 5730478 nmewn
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It would reduce the "Viking" breeding stock in the Ukraine, yes ;-)

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:25 | 5730470 luna_man
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Maybe, boy's be liking other boy's.  So, no problem...Right?

 

common in USA...right?

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:48 | 5730529 somecallmetimmah
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Our sincerest apologies for the inadvertent protein discharge that occured in your mouth last evening.

-The Ukraine

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 08:38 | 5731188 Lanka
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The No-child policy.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:27 | 5730476 Yen Cross
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    Trust me when I say this. Japanese women are really special.  It's a cultural issue.

   Alligators and Crocodiles are programmed to EAT anything.

 Humans aren't far removed from RATS.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:34 | 5730501 somecallmetimmah
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It's all 'protein', right?

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:18 | 5730608 Yen Cross
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 A balanced meal, works best.

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