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What Do They Know? Why Are So Many Of The Super Wealthy Preparing Bug Out Locations?

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Submitted by Michael Snyder via The End of The American Dream blog,

A lot of ultra-rich people are quietly preparing to “bug out” when the time comes.  They are buying survival properties, they are buying farms in far away countries and they are buying deep underground bunkers.  In fact, a prominent insider at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland says that “very powerful people are telling us they’re scared” and he shocked his audience when he revealed that he knows “hedge fund managers all over the world who are buying airstrips and farms in places like New Zealand”.

So what do they know?  Why are so many of the super wealthy suddenly preparing bug out locations?  When the elite of the world start preparing for doomsday, that is a very troubling sign.  And right now the elite appear to be quietly preparing for disaster like never before.

The insider that I mentioned above is named Robert Johnson.  He is the president of the Institute of New Economic Thinking, and what he recently told a packed audience in Davos is making headlines all over the planet

With growing inequality and the civil unrest from Ferguson and the Occupy protests fresh in people’s mind, the world’s super rich are already preparing for the consequences. At a packed session in Davos, former hedge fund director Robert Johnson revealed that worried hedge fund managers were already planning their escapes. “I know hedge fund managers all over the world who are buying airstrips and farms in places like New Zealand because they think they need a getaway,” he said.

But he didn’t stop there.

In a separate interview, Johnson admitted that “very powerful people are telling us they’re scared” and that the elite “see increasing evidence of social instability and violence”.  You can watch video of the entire interview below…

Wow.

And Johnson is not the only one saying these things.

The following quote comes from the Mirror

His comments were backed up by Stewart Wallis, executive director of the New Economics Foundation, who when asked about the comments told CNBC Africa: “Getaway cars the airstrips in New Zealand and all that sort of thing, so basically a way to get off.  If they can get off, onto another planet, some of them would.”

Of course not all elitists are planning to jet off to the other side of the globe.

Some are planning to go deep underground when things hit the fan.

For example, there is an underground decommissioned missile silo in Kansas that has been transformed into luxury survival condos by a real estate developer.  The following is from a Wall Street Journal article about those condos…

The so-called Survival Condo complex boasts full and half-floor units that cost $1.5 million to $3 million each. The building can accommodate up to 75 people, and buyers include doctors, scientists and entrepreneurs, says developer Larry Hall.

 

Mr. Hall, who lives in a Denver suburb, bought his first missile-silo site in Kansas in 2008 and completed construction in December 2012. A year later, he says, the development had sold out. Work on the second security compound—the one where Mr. Allen bought a unit—is under way, and Mr. Hall says he is considering additional sites in Texas and elsewhere.

 

As former nuclear missile sites built under the supervision of the Army Corps of Engineers, the structures were originally designed to withstand a direct hit by a nuclear bomb. At ground level, they can be sealed up by two armored doors weighing 16,000 pounds each. Mr. Hall added sophisticated water and air-treatment facilities, state-of-the-art computer network technology and several alternate power generation capabilities.

Other wealthy individuals are turning their current homes into high tech security fortresses.

Those that are involved in providing these kinds of services have seen business absolutely soar in recent years…

Wealthy families across the country are shelling out millions to protect their loved ones from intruders, natural disasters or the apocalypse as home security goes increasingly sci-fi.

 

Companies that provide concerned homeowners with futuristic gadgets – and a priceless peace of mind – have revealed the growing demand of costly bunkers, passageways, panic rooms and recognition software.

 

Chris Pollack – president of Pollack+Partners, a design and construction adviser in Purchase, New York – told Forbes that, while security has always been important for the wealthiest clients, the spending on home security has noticeably grown in the past five years.

 

And the options available on the market are like something from a Bond film.

For much more on this, please see my previous article entitled “Why Are So Many Wealthy People Building Futuristic High Tech Security Bunkers?

So why are all of these wealthy people so alarmed?

Well, the truth is that they can see what is happening.

They can see that millions of people are falling out of the middle class.  They can see that society is breaking down in thousands of different ways.  They can see that anger and frustration are rising to unprecedented levels.  And they can see that things are likely to boil over once the next major economic crisis strikes.

Even though the economy is still fairly stable for the moment, signs of increasing economic suffering are everywhere.  For example, the Los Angeles Times is reporting that homeless encampments are rapidly spreading throughout the Los Angeles area…

Over the last two years, street encampments have jumped their historic boundaries in downtown Los Angeles, lining freeways and filling underpasses from Echo Park to South Los Angeles. The Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority, a city-county agency, received 767 calls about street encampments in 2014, up 60% from the 479 in 2013.

We live at a time when almost everyone is getting poorer except for the elite The top 1 percent now have close to 50 percent of the wealth in the entire world, and each year wealth becomes even more concentrated in their hands.

The elite know that eventually a breaking point is going to come.  Those that are smart don’t want to be around when that happens.

And we got a few clues about what things might look like what that time comes from the recent “snow scare” in New York.  Frightened consumers wiped out supplies of bread, milk and eggs within just a few hours.  People started to take advantage of one another, even the journalists seemed like they were on the verge of panic, and virtually the entire city shut down.

All of this over just a few snowflakes.

So what is going to happen when we have a real crisis?

If the elite are preparing to bug out, it is hard to blame them.

I wouldn’t want to be right in the middle of a volcano when it erupts either.

Life is about to dramatically change, and signs of the coming storm are everywhere.

I hope that you are getting prepared for what is about to hit us while you still can.

 

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Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:26 | 5730627 Urban Redneck
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Or any common redneck with one of these on the truck...

http://www.stihlusa.com/products/cut-off-machines/professional-cut-off-m...

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:01 | 5730413 Yen Cross
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 Vampires need extra space. When the end comes, no-one will be able to build a deep enough bunker.

 Just be thankfull you live in tranquil times.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:02 | 5730414 heisenberg991
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And what happens when the food and energy runs out in the bunker. You gone bitch.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:08 | 5730426 brooklynlou
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Airstrip? New Zealand? Pfffftt. Didn't they see Elyseum? No one cares unless they get a space station.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:36 | 5730659 P?keh?
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If it does blow up I'd imagine NZ would become like a a Elysium.. at least 100 of thousands of people will be tryin every which way of getting there asses there... only a matter of time until they close the international ports I'd figure.

 

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:10 | 5730438 dexter_morgan
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Why, because there is unrest in the forest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnC88xBPkkc

There is unrest in the forest
There is trouble with the trees
For the Maples want more sunlight
And the Oaks ignore their pleas

The trouble with the maples
(And they're quite convinced they're right)
They say the oaks are just too lofty
And they grab up all the light
But the oaks can't help their feelings
If they like the way they're made
And they wonder why the maples
Can't be happy in their shade?

There is trouble in the forest
And the creatures all have fled
As the maples scream 'Oppression!'
And the oaks, just shake their heads

So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights
'The oaks are just too greedy
We will make them give us light'
Now there's no more oak oppression
For they passed a noble law
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet,
Axe,
And saw

Read more: Rush - The Trees Lyrics | MetroLyrics
Sun, 02/01/2015 - 00:33 | 5730771 Greenskeeper_Carl
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love rush. if you read their lyrics, probably the most libertarian sounding band i know of

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 20:25 | 5733041 dexter_morgan
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To quite Alex Lifeson in his HOF acceptance speech

blah blah blah, blah blah, blah blah blah blah

Yeah, they are pretty solid guys from what I have seen and heard.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:12 | 5730444 The Shape
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Paranoid cokeheads think the world is ending.

I'm fucking shocked.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 02:05 | 5730918 ersatz007
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wth is this???

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:26 | 5730477 red1chief
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Of course the builders of this stuff make a big profit, and are probably using fear to sell the stuff. The .o1% are at no risk for a long time.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:26 | 5730479 SuccorMoney
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In other words, my Elite friends: lighten the fuck up, get over your shame, talk to other human beings, even lesser ones, and become part of the solution, rather than part of the problem.  It's really not that complicated, especially not for smart guys and gals like yourselves.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:48 | 5730530 nmewn
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I'm not in the habit of treating thieves this way.

There is a "busted period" (dead or alive), a trial period (if alive), a finding of guilt or innocence, a sentencing or freedom stage, a punishment stage and finally...forgiveness, with the knowledge they could do it again, as proven by their past actions. They still have to prove they're trustworthy again no matter what, forgiving is not trust.

Its called integrity & character, one has it or they don't.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:34 | 5730493 yogibear
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Many prepared for WWIII in the southern hemisphere at a moment's notice.

They set it up, leave and come back to make more money and own even more.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:35 | 5730503 Jack's Raging B...
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Fuck this red bastard. Increased inheritance taxes? FUCK YOU. We have a world dominated by the infestation of State management. Every aspect of the modern world is regulated, codified, and manipulated by State intervention; yet, somehow future State confiscation and management is going to make things better? Cue to clueless ASSHOLE, The State IS the source of inequity you bloviating fascist fuck!

As if inhritance taxes would fucking solve anything. The wealthy elite do not "own" anything--their corporations do! After openning up with how hyper-rich have the resources to evade every tax and law, he suggests that futher taxation ought to do it. Splendid idea you ignorant fuck. People like this bring out a near homicidal impulse in me. I guess my problem is that it's only a near impulse. A pox on that mother-fucker and all his fell spawn!

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:39 | 5730510 August
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>>>The wealthy elite do not "own" anything--their corporations do!

But it's the fucking small business owners and orthodontists that are to blame for the world's economic woes.  Confiscate their wealth, and drive them into the sea!

 

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:01 | 5730556 Flybyknight
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Robert Johnson is one of the few voices of reason on the American economic scene. I agree inheritance taxes may not be the best option for slowing the increasing inequality in society but what else is there to avoid the predicted situation in 2016 that the top 1% will own 50% of the world. (Not quite certain but its something like that)

Lets have some suggestions.

How about  a ceiling on pay within an organisation. No more than $2 million and no more than 10x the lowest paid employee. I know people will think of ways around this so what is needed is a change in society's values. Instead of being lauded the super rich should be treated like lepers. But then they have the money that we need so I guess we will have to suck up to them.Therefore in he end there is no one to blame but ourselves

I'll stand back and wait for the brickbats.  

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:28 | 5730639 lasvegaspersona
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The 1% may have half the wealth but they do not half the 'stuff'. When paper wealth is destroyed by hyperinflation only the smart 1% of the 1% will have much of anything.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 00:08 | 5730720 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Plato said 'No man is worth more than three times another man."

 

NOTE: I will sell the solution/algorithm to all the World's Economic alchemy/problems for $30 Trillion physical gold bullion. When the bullion is safely in my possession I will hand over the proprietary solution, but not until then. Moreover, there is only one solution in the myriad of possible solutions currently being looked at. Time is wasting and the 'powers' that 'be' are dithering because they don't know what is going on!

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 00:56 | 5730809 squid
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Sure, bring in and inhertance tax and finish off that last independant family famrs all over America. Fucking brilliant.

 

It may surprise you to note that income tax, when brought in in 1913 to pay for the fed, was intended ONLY for the rich. How did that government cluster fuck work out?

 

Why is it that people who look at how fucked stuff is admit that it was caused by government and then want the same goverment to come in and solve it?

 

 

Insanity anyone?

 

Squid

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 01:52 | 5730901 falconflight
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How could an american govt have a constitutional right to force that upon private industry.  It's called legal plunder, a perversion of law.  Baistiat of course.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 00:42 | 5730791 Greenskeeper_Carl
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i agree. inheritance taxes are bullshit(just like all other taxes). You die, so half your shit goes to the govt to spend as they see fit. Usually moar warfare and moar welfare. Thats one of several reasons we have witnessed the death of the family farm, and the rise of big agra. It may seem counterintuitive, but who do you think benefits most from these laws, other than the govt getting moar of your money? Big, wealthy corporations. Your folks die, you inherit a farm that the IRS says is worth 2 mil. In that 2 million estate must now have 500k in taxes paid on it, due to a 25% inheritance tax. You think the family has 500k laying around to hand to the fucking govt? nope. what often happens is they must then sell the farm/property/business in order to pay the state their vig. So, who ends up buying up that land? Con-agra/monsanto/ whoever, one of the giant argi corporations, which is how we have gotten to the point that a small handful of companies now control the vast majority of our food supply. Sure, they might have small, local sounding brand names, but at the top, we are talking about maybe a half dozen corporate behemoths

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 01:51 | 5730896 falconflight
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Legal grave robbing.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 03:50 | 5730994 Condition 1SQ
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Their solution to inequality is to make it harder for regular people to pass posessions onto their offspring.  The rich will find ways around it.  Makes sense, right?

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:44 | 5730518 dexter_morgan
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All the rich leech boys will be dead within a year unless they bring some slaves along to do the actual work for them. They make their living off the hard work of others, so how is bugging out gonna help them. Will be interesting to see though. Country boys, now those boys will survive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cQNkIrg-Tk

Ironic that was make 30 years ago and still real.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:43 | 5730519 dumbStruck
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Weld their exit doors shut and or bury their exits and any vents under a few feet of rocks and dirt with a backhoe, post a few guards around the area for awhile to be sure none escape. Lots of options for rat nests. Be sure to block any back doors or multiple exits to their bolt holes.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:48 | 5730525 SHRAGS
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“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? After all, you knew ahead of time that those bluecaps were out at night for no good purpose. And you could be sure ahead of time that you’d be cracking the skull of a cutthroat.” 
Aleksandr SolzhenitsynThe Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 00:46 | 5730796 falconflight
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I've been rereading it after first reading it more than 30 years ago.  I've found it far more frightening the second time around, I suppose because I can better gauge the likelihood of my neighbors working at our local RevTribuneral, GDU, Chekist, or the NKVD or half a dozen other organs dragging me away for all that antisocial activity.  

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:51 | 5730535 bunnyswanson
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After all these years, it still is not obvious to Americans.  Guess it is the fluoride. 

Israel is at war with America and for now, their army is the bankers.  It's a step-by-step process that will end with not one American getting away alive.  No one is going to talk about what is going to come. 

SLAVES to CHINA mutherfuckers. 

Now go play football you silly fucking wanks.  You pissed away the best fucking country in the world, sending civilization into BLEAK future of no hope for more and you did it without even realizing it.

A COUP D ETAT

STATE CAPTURE

The cops are workign for the bankers - but that was pretty fucking obvious when OWS was being beaten and mauled by the Israel cock suckers.

I am so mad at Americans right now, I could spit fire.  You are taking us all down with you because you had to be the COP.

Military members/LE offficers.  If you are an American, you had better read the PROTOCOLS OF THE ELDERS OF ZION because this business plan has it all included in a copule plages.  No one gets out free.  Every one with a SS* wil be taxed accordingly and Communist China (the only entity getting business loans on US soil) will show the RICH KID ON THE BLOCK what it stateless is.

Revenge on your pretty soft skinned children is going to be new entertainment.

Unless you do this:  OVER THROW ISREAL AND STEAL ALL OF HER WEALTH (reparations).  Either that or go the way of the Mayans (and you will be tortured and kept alive to entire more tortuous you fucking pussy men)

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:05 | 5730572 nmewn
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Let me tell you something you stupid bitch, as an American, if you come within five miles of my kids I will cut your heart out...just like a Mayan.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 13:44 | 5731726 bunnyswanson
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Oh okay ::eye roll::  Chimerica has a flag. 

ZH should do an expose' of the business loans being issued to Chinese businessmen (The Chinese govt since this is a communist nation).  These EZ term friendly loans are buying up America and not a word is being said.  Detroit basically belongs to them.  Santa Monica port as well.  Military bases are being turned into manufacturing hubs and sold.  NAFTA highway is real. 

You Americans obviously have no clue as to why anyone would want to overthrow your govt and seize the nation...it's the ideal country - everything to offer, you really cannot ask for a better country than the USA with regard to climate and ports, recreation, tourism.

http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-chimerica-combination-of-the-flags-of-e...

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:17 | 5730609 Pava
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are you for real?

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:43 | 5730673 bunnyswanson
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You betcha.  You think the baby boomers are going to retire and be issued their investments in a Ponzi, don't you?  You think the American baby boomers are going to be paid first before China.  The street you live on will be burned to the ground while the Ghoul's Army searches from a "terrorist." 

This is Israel - have you seen the pictures coming out of GAZA?  No tears. 

They sprayed agent orange to kill plant life - so there is no place to hide .  Your trial on the devices you use will be adequate to hunt you down.

By the time the curtain is pulled back, the party will be long over and the round up is all that will be left.  FEMA camps and work prisons will be the future you hand your children.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 01:00 | 5730816 Greenskeeper_Carl
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sorry to disappoint you, but i think the future is going to be far less dramatic than that. A lot of debt is going to be written off, disappeared, defaulted on. That which can't be paid, won't be. simple as that. This includes most obligations from pretty much every western govt, especially entitlements liek SS/medicare. also food stamps and welfare in all its forms. Its going to hurt a lot of people, especially the older ones who foolishly trusted the govt to take care of them. There will be a tough period, probably with a lot of unrest as people who thought they would be taken care of by the nanny state realize it was a lie. commerce will grind to a halt for a while, which will(hopefully) result in a lot of decentralization as we reach and pass 'peak govt' and it becomes so bloated it collapses on itself. HOPEFULLY we learn a lesson from this, and as economic activity restarts, it will restart based on honest, free markets and sound money. All that digital money and digital wealth will vaporize, and we won't much care what the israelis are doing over there, but they will definitely have to learn to get along with their neighbors, as we will NOT be in any position to keep giving them expensive military hardware to fight their neighbors with. Sure, the elites could decide to fry all the plebes with their nuclear weapons, in which case it really aint gonna matter who or why, as we will all be dead. But they won't. Humanity won't survive that, niether will they, no matter where they live or how deep the bunker is. You really think they want to go from jetting around the world to their numerous vacation spots to living the rest of their lives underground eating MREs? Get yourself prepared for what I am predicting by getting yourself out of debt(i know what i said about write offs above, but don't think they won't come after your assets first if you owe money), build up a nice nest egg, make sure you aren't in a large urban area and quit worrying about armies of Jews or chinamen running around herding you into a FEMA camp. Im aware that my childrens future doesn't look great. They will probably have a lower standard of living, very true, but even in the bleak world I am predicting, there will be light at the end of the tunnel, and oppurtunity

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 01:25 | 5730857 falconflight
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Yeah, I felt bad when reading how the Egyptian gov't is creating a free fire zone within Gaza wherein already approx. 1,200 homes have been destroyed and Ryfat (sp) is being depopulated as well, not during a war where thousands of missiles are reigning down on cities in Egypt, but in a methodical...civil engineering fashion.... openly stated for the purpose of enhancing security.  No Tears? Ha!  Not even an issue at the UN, and barely mentioned within the media.  It shows to me just how much the palestinian cause is manufactured for political purposes.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:31 | 5730648 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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The Americans on Z/H are the intelligent Americans and they are not responsible for the lunatic Americans that are responsibe for the Ponzi Empire they Securitized, and Financialized to this extent. I understand the angst towards the FED and Greenspan, Congress, the SEC, Paulson, Geithner, Bernanke, Rubin, Summers, but these dudes ain't on Z/H thank God. Furthermore, correct me if I am mistaken, but I believe Tyler is an American and he does not deserve any of the wrath projected whereas all the above listed Ivory Tower fuck ups do. When we blast Americans we should qualify it first IMHO. I like Z/H quite a bit and I appreciate that it is wholely owned by an American that is just as pissed off as we are that are not in the USA. Frankly, from what I read here on Z/H it is obvious that the Tyler(s) are dedicated to outing the very same idiots that we are complaining about so they should get a break from being alligned with the Americans we are pissed off at en masse. I honestly believe that most people in the World would be satisfied with blaming it on Greenspan if we had one guy to pick out of the bunch that screwed it all up.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 00:39 | 5730784 DLux
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The real base of operations is out of the City of London. They have been running the show for centuries, fucking over countless nations. NY and DC are part of their base of operations (much like Israel) just ask Sir Evelyn de Rothschild. Why haven't the folks in the UK done away with the evil bankers in their midst for these many centuries?

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 03:43 | 5730992 debunkit
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Now go climb back ino your bunker bunnyswanson and be sure to close the door behind you real tight.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 22:52 | 5730536 indaknow
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The planet is finite. These people are not going anywhere. you can run but you cannot hide.

You don't need an "insider" to tell you what we already know. this post falls under the silly saturdays edition of ZH. Fun none the less.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:13 | 5730589 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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When the banking system implodes on the next go round there will be nothing to survive for when all the future will hold will be wiped out

in the first two months of rampaging chaos, violent contagion, and mass starvation, along with dehydration, a lack of running water, et cetera.

Frankly, it's dirt nap time for the human race when systemic breakdown of society occurs, and we are almost right there right now.

 

NOTE: This is why the Holy Bible says...'woe unto anyone with children'.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 00:54 | 5730800 serotonindumptruck
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And yet again, what about those several hundred nuclear power plants located around the world?

Without trained engineers and technicians on site at all times, guess what happens to all of those nuclear reactors?

Go on, take a wild guess!

"Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."

-- Robert Oppenheimer (quoting the Bhagavad Gita)

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 02:47 | 5730958 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Oppenheimer's words are something to behold. I remember seeing footage of him saying that years back and I swear that I think about those words of Oppy often. I was unaware of the real origin being

the Bhagavad Gita. Frankly, now I want to read the Bhagavad Gita

given that that is where Oppenheimer borrowed from. I know how Oppenheimer feels when I look at the quantum economic destruction that is about to wipe out the entire World. In the case of the Atom Bomb the fallout could be controlled somewhat. In the case of the quantum economic destruction that is about to unhinge the entire World there is no control or even remote understanding of what the real fallout is going to be. People suggest that this will be like the Great Depression, but we have already gone through more actual years of depression than the Great Depression had. Moreover, there will be no correction as there was in previous times. The destroyer of Worlds is undoubtedly technological development coupled with absentminded mathematicians, and Wall Street Quants with special weapons of mass destruction called Credit Default Swaps. cheers

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:13 | 5730593 Magooo
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This is what they know:

 

HIGH PRICED OIL DESTROYS GROWTH

According to the OECD Economics Department and the International Monetary Fund Research Department, a sustained $10 per barrel increase in oil prices from $25 to $35 would result in the OECD as a whole losing 0.4% of GDP in the first and second years of higher prices.  http://www.iea.org/textbase/npsum/high_oil04sum.pdf

 

THE PERFECT STORM (see p. 59 onwards)

The economy is a surplus energy equation, not a monetary one, and growth in output (and in the global population) since the Industrial Revolution has resulted from the harnessing of ever-greater quantities of energy. But the critical relationship between energy production and the energy cost of extraction is now deteriorating so rapidly that the economy as we have known it for more than two centuries is beginning to unravel. http://ftalphaville.ft.com/files/2013/01/Perfect-Storm-LR.pdf

 

Oil and gas company debt soars to danger levels to cover shortfall in cash

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/11024845/Oil-and-gas-company-debt-soars-to-danger-levels-to-cover-shortfall-in-cash.html


My visa for New Zealand should be finalized any day now.   I have an offer on a 5 hectare farm that triggers the minute that visa comes through, then I will be stuffing a sack of gold into my hand carry and getting the fuck out of here.

 

BTW - you can bring all the gold and cash you want into NZ without any taxes. Just make sure you declare it on arrival.

 

When this hits not even NZ is certain to offer any sort of safety.  It is important to note that when the economy collapses oil stops --- and we go back to the stone age effectively.

 

So really there are no safe havens.  There is at best survival - and one will likely wish one was dead --- because it will be brutal

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:30 | 5730646 P?keh?
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Don't worry mate.. New Zealand only got the wheel a few years ago.. so it won't come as much of a shock when we lose it again.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:15 | 5730601 WillyGroper
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Who will harvest their bitter fruit from their chemtrail contaminated farmlands?

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 01:52 | 5730900 soulman
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Good Question. no shortage of fools to go around. But worrying about chemtrials I didn't create nor can eliminate is akin to doing nothing because the comets are going to wipe us out. It's an valid but unproductive question. 

As an ex-American, certified organic farmer on rural South Island NZ, living within a small community of like-minded neighbours & volunteers, I'm quite grateful and happy to take my chances here. 

There are mobs of sheep, troops of monkeys, clans of hyenas, broods of hens, packs of wolves and communities of men and women. We didn't write the rules, but we must play the game.

Choose your "avatar" and write your future. ZHers please stop wasting precious time predicting the rise of the sheep, hens and hyenas peppered with dark biblical inferences of moral and ethical retribution. That's just diversionary pathetic nonsense.   

Somebody gimme an a-men......

 


 

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 12:15 | 5731515 WillyGroper
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I believe mitigation is the key. A greenhouse to protect your organics.

Good on ya for finding a community of the like minded. GLTY on your escape.

Hope you don't have a false sense of security as last I checked NZ is a member of the UN. Agenda 21 anyone?

Amen & Hallelujah

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:26 | 5730621 dexter_morgan
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So, not to stir up all the TFH'ers, but what is the deal with all the stories about the vast network of underground tunnels under Denver airport?

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 01:06 | 5730823 serotonindumptruck
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A more relevant question might be:

What happens when ambient oxygen cannot be scrubbed or filtered due to massive radiological contamination of the Earth's biosphere?

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:33 | 5730623 reader2010
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They are so afraid of you not wanting to accept forced work. 

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:25 | 5730624 lasvegaspersona
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YES!!! Let the govrnment save us!!

what a fuck head. Inheritance will be easier to hide when gold is the wealth asset.

This guy is pure kiss ass...climate change...idiot...

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:39 | 5730664 dexter_morgan
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Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.
Marx
Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:40 | 5730666 P?keh?
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New Zealand is on the top of the list of places I'm bugging out too..  born there.. know all about it..  just imagine riding your bike down to the coast and plucking a couple of kilos of green lip mussels off the rocks in half an hour.. or going snorkling and snagging 2kg crayfish laying around with nothing better to do.  All for free.. and argubly in the most pristine environment on earth.

Given it's geographical location, relative energy independance, largely rural population, it's totally the place you'd want to go.. 

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 00:14 | 5730732 rivoniaboy
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What a crock of shit! That may have been the case 30 years ago. Today the country is amongst the most expensive that you can live.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 00:31 | 5730769 squid
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Add to that, NZ is one of the most techtonically active places on earth. There is an extint volcano in the middle of Auckland harbour.....Mt St. Helens was extinct once.

 

Squid

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 01:57 | 5730905 soulman
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Yes and no. There are also ample opportunities for self-sufficiency, great small communities, farmer's markets, etc. Parasites not welcome. 

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 01:48 | 5730888 falconflight
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NZ doesn't allow for immigration unless the applicant can document large portfolios for investment into the NZ economy or the applicant has a skill that fills a critical shortage.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 07:00 | 5731112 humble_man
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That is not completely true.  Did you study Physics or Engineering in college?  Are you under the age of 50 and willing to live without social security?  Even if both answers are "NO", you can still get a work visa for a year and go back home if you don't like it. 

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:43 | 5730674 Jack Burton
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Look on the bright side, once they begin to move in numbers, we will know that it is all coming down. That ought to give us time to either cut short their exits, or smoke them out. I know New Zealand quite well, and I know a number of these super rich have bought farms and rural propeties in some of New Zealand's best remote spots. But they should not sleep too well, for one, New Zealand is very small, and the natives know where these people have bought their bolt holes. Plus, the locals can get really fucking mean if they think a foreigner is fucking them over, add to that the local Maori men, and no place will be safe for this rich fucks.

I know for a fact that New Zealand will not be as safe as these fuckers think. Natives will not watch their world go to hell and just let these elites hide out up on some rural mountain side ranch on the South Island. A Maori war party or two, and these folks a well armed down there, can smoke the elites out. I only wish when the time comes I could join a gang of locals armed to the teeth or a gang of natives, all intent on evening up the score with these bankers. Australia will be no safer, lots more space to hide, but Mad Maz will catch up. History presents few times when elites could ruin the world and just sit it out. In fact, history shows the elites get toasted in a hell of a hurry when it all goes to hell.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:58 | 5730704 kappal_toba_dhu...
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Surprise!   They ARE moving in numbers. Come here to Singapore and see for yourself!  

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:56 | 5730705 kappal_toba_dhu...
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Surprise!   They ARE moving in numbers. Come here to Singapore and see for yourself!  

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 02:37 | 5730951 soulman
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Jack, how do you "know for a fact"? And "A Maori War Party"?

Shit, many Maoris are too fat to walk 100 metres, let alone party.Too many of those dangerous Maoris you are referring to are alcoholic, stoned, obese diabetics from a lifetime of beer, weed, KFC & Pepsi and brainwashed by evangelical christianity. They really aren't any more dangerous than a haka, or you, for that matter. 

This is a very egaltarian sociecty, up there with Scandanavia. If one is an arrogant arsehole, he is merely ostricized, not eaten or lynched as in pre-Waitangi treaty days. 

Governments are the cause of the problems; eliminating a symptom of bad govenment, i.e. "elites" is like treating pnuemonia with cough syrup. Might feel good for a wee bit, but nothing more. We are being organized by obsolete and homicidal systems. 

 

 

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 06:54 | 5731110 humble_man
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I love me some Jack Burton commentary...especially about Russia.  However, with all due respect, I know NZ better than you do.  Not many Maori in South Island, and any kiwi there is a good neighbor if you are willing to be one.  Know how to tend your sheep and garden and mind your business.  Help others when you can and they will notice....be an elitist shithead and they will do away with you.....same as it ever was.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 09:59 | 5731274 UselessEater
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NZ? Anyone wonder why a former PM is now a UN big wig? That's a reward position for UN Ag21 good works whilst in office.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:45 | 5730677 InanimateCarbonRod
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That's a great idea - let them lock themselves into that bunker.  I'll park my Hitachi Eh5000 on top of the entrance.  Keep them safe.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:54 | 5730692 Atticus Finch
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I guess the elites wouldn't have to be afraid if the corporates simply brought jobs back from overseas and stop squandering the national treasury on Neo-Nazis in Ukraine.

Sat, 01/31/2015 - 23:56 | 5730702 q99x2
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Yeh, In WWII they went to Guadacanal and ended up as toast. Not the brightest humans.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 00:03 | 5730716 Baby Eating Dingo22
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This bankster found his safe-haven

http://www.nj.com/bergen/index.ssf/2015/01/man_dead_in_apparent_plunge_f...

Man dead in apparent plunge from Palisades cliff, authorities say
Sun, 02/01/2015 - 00:08 | 5730724 Sono
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I used to love this site before the drudgies found out about it. There used to be some really good discussions from professional people whom are not brainwashed idiots inthe comments section. Nowadays its the same old dumshit posts by dumshit people who have absolutely no clue wtf they are talking about. And Tyler you deserve some of the criticism for allowing this stupid article to hit your site. You and I know damn well the rich have been buying dumshit they will never need since the beginning. And now all this does is keep the cycle going, dumming the dumbed down even further. I guess you get more hits if you follow the fear machine like every other "news site" these days.

 

Look, is there problems in the world? Yes. Always has been and always will be. But that does not mean its time for everyone to grab a gun and "prep". Its stupid and dangerous because then it becomes self fulfilling. Any of you sitting there prepping for the end like its coming next week, or month, or year dont hold your breath. Things were a shit ton more dangerous 60 years ago. The biggest danger we face today is idiots reading this shit day in and day out and basing thier little lives on the fantasy of some kind of catastrophe. What it really boils down to is envy and peoples excuses for themselves as if there exists this system in place that holds them back from thier greatness. Its just stupid. 

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 03:02 | 5730968 jomama
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you can't really blame them, drudge hasn't updated his site in over 15 years...

that site peaked with the Lewinsky scandal.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 06:43 | 5731101 humble_man
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I did not downvote you, but please see Rome at 50 AD with lots of war versus 400 AD with less war. Eventually, debt and diluted currency will catch up with any empire...but it does not happen in 2 years. You cannot predict it.  Just stay smart and be ready, and if you love your children.....get them ready. 

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 12:13 | 5731510 Sono
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Point taken, however, we are not Rome! We are the most powerful empire to ever exist! And prepare my children for what?? I travel alot for business and im telling ya there is no signs that i see of some sort of collapse. Its just not reality its turned into a religion. All i see is restaurants packed, roads being built and buildings flying up, and here we have a whole section of the population completely wasting there time with these con artists who say the same damn thing over and over and over. I cant believe people dont understand that this isnt news, THIS IS A TABLOID. Nothing more nothing less.

 

Hey listen, if me or you would have followed the advice of these so called experts we would be in finanacial ruin. If people would just use thier brains they would realze that there is no shortage of anything. Plenty of oil, food, wood, all of the things that make our lives so damn comfortable.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 00:10 | 5730725 NoWayJose
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After the first few months a billionaire will step out of his bunker and own an empty bunker. There will be no one to make, deliver, or pump gas and no one to distribute food. A share of Apple stock will not be worth the price of a single egg. The survivors will be the dirt poor farmers who know how to farm and raise livestock with chemicals and hormones.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 04:22 | 5731022 dreadnaught
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a million shares of Intel will not be worth one share of Apple

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 18:43 | 5732707 Urtica ferox
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After TEOTWAWKI a million shares of Apple won't be worth one apple. FIFY :-)

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 00:27 | 5730726 NoWayJose
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I suspect that many a billionaire will be executed by his guards.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 00:20 | 5730740 European American
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Anyone who makes money at the expense of another, i.e. to the harm of someone or something, regardless of the size of their pocketbook, should be fearful. It’s not just the “Elite”.

On the other hand, I would suspect, an intelligent, honest, law abiding "prepper" who is obscenely well endowed, financially speaking, would be foolish not to have a hideaway, far, very far from the maddening crowd when it gets downright medieval in the streets.

 

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 00:18 | 5730745 Chris88
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They know class warfare is at an all time high.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 00:38 | 5730776 falconflight
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Fear porn.  Ferguson and occupy are societal markers for the apocalypse?  What a shallow, really laughable thesis.  In 1963 and 1967 and 1968, dozens of US cities are set ablaze, hundreds of political bombings per year, millions protesting in the streets, thousands dead and wounded in Viet Nam every month, with 3 times the current arsenal of nuclear weapons trained, with a hair trigger, on the major cities of the US, USSR, and Europe. And that's just some of the circumstances of the day.

And let's not forget that the one percenter's wealth has exploded upward during the past 10 or so years, with NYC apartments running into the tens of millions of dollars because the world's richest are struggling to find something to buy with all that wealth.

I like to read this stuff and often get drawn into the morbid what if excitement of the TEOTKAWKI, but some context is in order.  

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 00:38 | 5730786 SweetDoug
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It's their guilt.

They know they gotten their wealth through bloodless plunder.

And they know when they've exhausted every last one of us, we will wake up and come for them.

 

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V-V

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 00:56 | 5730810 jim249
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We had bomb shelters in the early 60's when I was growing up. The nukes were gonna fly at any time. Just another panic blog story. If things really get that bad, you would be better off dead.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 02:01 | 5730914 Axenolith
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I don't believe the "better off dead" aspect, but if you use a decommissioned silo as a shelter and the balloon goes up, you have to realize that somewhere some dude in Russia or China or future place that can reach it will be thinking "What about that facility?  it's supposed to be decommissioned, but you never know, might as well task a few to it"...

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 02:27 | 5730940 Batman11
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They have remembered the French revolution.

This is what can happen with high inequality.

They like their heads being attached to their bodies.

 

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 02:31 | 5730944 Batman11
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With the nuclear super powers at each others throats a bunker is the only precaution.

What are you going to do with gold in a radio-active wasteland?

At least you can burn the paper stuff to keep warm.

 

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 02:38 | 5730947 Batman11
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The forgotten problem with elites hiding in bunkers.

When they come out, who is actually going to do the work?

Too many chiefs and not enough Indians. 

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 04:21 | 5731019 dreadnaught
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we might have a mine shaft gap

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 02:39 | 5730952 papa song
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When all the nuke plants start going critical due to lack of attention and maintenance it will be lights out for us all no matter how much the bunker doors weigh.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 06:32 | 5731094 humble_man
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Not really, brother.  Study nuke fallout projections and don't be within 150 miles downwind of a nuclear plant.  Keep a good Honda 2000 generator protected from EM, stay in shape like others have mentioned......and tend the garden.  I've been to NZ 3 times and would rather be in South Island than South Central LA if the SHTF. 

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 02:52 | 5730962 donhuangenaro
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running away from the problem will not solve it...

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 19:33 | 5730977 Urtica ferox
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In the unlikely event of TEOTWAWKI NZ will be an "interesting" place, with about 1/4 to 1/3 of the population concentrated in and around Auckland and all hungry and trying to leave.

Isolated areas in NZ could be a sod to bug out to if you don't know how to farm, kill and butcher sheep and cattle - and how many of the elites can do that?

That said I'd sooner be living here in NZ than elsewhere; and there is this ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_and_gas_industry_in_New_Zealand so if SHTF NZ can produce (for a while) maybe enough liquid transport fuels to keep essential industries (i.e. farming) going.

Consider:

"All essential production is for the mouth, and is finally measured by the mouth. The want of any clear insight of this fact is the capital error, issuing in rich interest and revenue of error among the political economists. Their minds are continually set on money gain, not on mouth gain."   Ruskin

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 04:21 | 5730998 Md4
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If the One Percenter's are in fear, they are also sick and blind, for this is not that complicated.

It all boils down to this: do the right things...now.

Share your talents.

If you're an entrepreneur, find ways to put people into meaningful work--even if you end up making less to do so.

If you're a major CEO, pull your head out of Wall Street's ass already, and start paying your workforce a living wage without being dragged to it. If you've got billions to buyback your company's shares, you've got money to pay people better than you do.

Get your ass out of the office more often, and spend time with your sleeves rolled up, working right alongside your labor. Show them you really give a damn about them, and mean it.

Stop worrying about the competition and start thinking about what YOU'RE doing. Take a cue from the days of Herb Kelleher at Southwest Airlines, for example. He had them beating down the doors to come to work for him.

You think that was because he gave a shit about what the other guys were doing?

If you do the right thing today, you'll have nothing to worry about tomorrow.

On the other hand, if you don't, no bunker or missile silo (you've got to be kidding) is going to save you.

Besides, what can you take with you anyway?

m

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 06:33 | 5731095 humble_man
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You're one of the smartest people I know, and I don't even know you.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 04:18 | 5731016 dreadnaught
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the nut jobs -or maybe not-are saying there is a jump room/wormhole here on earth to Mars for the elites-none other than President Eishenhowers great grandaughter-says so-she is refusing her ticket to the underground cities built there-she wants to stay with the common folk.....now thats class

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 04:19 | 5731017 John_Coltrane
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People should just relax and realize that your atoms will survive any event-includingly the loss of your current self-organization as a multicellular organism currently dedicated to doomed to fail task of reducing the entropy of the universe.  Did you realize that nearly everyone on earth has around 100 atoms of all the famous people of history in their bodies-all recycled as we all will be.  So, until protons decay and black holes evaporate into universal heat dealth and everything is long wavelength radiation, there's really nothing to worry about!

Put that in your pipe and smoke it doom and gloomers.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 04:26 | 5731031 AmarUtu
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So they fck everyone over then run and hide? hahaha you cannot hide in the bone yard bitcheez..

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 05:38 | 5731075 HughJanus
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One thing that has not been discussed, although it may be obvious to some or most, is attaining a level of fitness commensurate and proportional to your age in order you maximise your ability to survive in a shtf scenario.

This costs nothing apart from time. As a 50 year old 95kg 5' 10" big waisted armchair athlete i concluded no matter what I was prepared for would be useless if I couldn't at a minimum run or briskly walk one mile without suffering a coronary and being kitted out like Rambo, all the gold, water, seeds, guns, bunker and knowledge wouldn't help me much if I couldn't move efficiently.

Hence the New Years resolution to get in shape as much as I am able has been put into effect.

The longer this takes to fall apart the longer you have to get in shape. Consequently if nothing happens shtf wise for a decade or two you have significantly increased your chances to be around when it eventually does, sharper in mind and body.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 08:44 | 5731194 papaswamp
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Make sure you have your gear on when you walk or even workout. I see so many work out, but then put on their rediculous amount of bugout gear and their distance travel ability drops big time. Can you lie down and get yourself up quickly ( full gear)? Do you + gear fit through doorways easily/ quietly? Are you and your gear quiet when moving? Do you look super tacticool or can you blend with the masses ( grayman theory)?

If one cannot do these things then the gear need to be modified, and/or workout regimine adgusted.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 06:58 | 5731111 css1971
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BTW, now is a good time to start picking up stuff like slash resistant hoodies:

http://www.cutsafe.co.uk/

 

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 12:09 | 5731503 lakecity55
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I still have my IIA vest. I wear it under my hoodie.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 07:04 | 5731113 CHX
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The natural and fundamental fear of hights and lamposts.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 10:54 | 5731353 overmedicatedun...
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what is bill gates doing? he has planners for his planners..would be good to know. not that us common folk could copy anything billionaires do.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 07:18 | 5731124 Rusputin
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The article should read, “Well, the truth is that they can see what they have caused.”

Successfully hiding from nuclear Armageddon has a few problems - Nature is your constant enemy when trying to inhabit an alien environment, and unless you work with Nature, it is also a problem in natural habitats. In particular, an Earth based underground city or bunker, would experience constant threat from moisture, viruses, bacteria and bugs, plus many more issues.

Creating a sealed habitat requires constant power, nuclear presumably, to generate fresh air, clean water, process human waste, grow fresh foods (unless you plan on living out your life on pre-stored, dried, processed food), artificial sunlight (to promote 'natural' vitamin D production), lots of spare parts and manufacturing for things that break, outstanding medical provisions to cope with disease, viral and bacterial outbreak, plus a strong military defence.

Any successful habitat would have to be ecologically balanced for it to be sustainable, and considering the types of people who would live there, having sucked the world dry of resources and drawn as much wealth upwards as possible, their track record is not, let’s just say, rosy. Think of the types you’d need to successfully live on Mars and the breathtaking self-sustaining technology needed. I see a social cohesion problem straight away, with a few thousand elite, itching to start their psychopathic machinations again, right from the very beginning – the medieval serfdom model would not be pretty or balanced.

The world after the initial nuclear exchange may experience adverse weather, including Nuclear Winter, for a number of months or years. Only about 1/5 of the world’s population could be killed directly by nuclear weapons (including radioactivity), another 2/5 by starvation, leaving 2/5 or 2.5 billion people who manage to find a kind of sustainable survival. The remaining of course, will mostly be heavily armed and quite annoyed with the situation, they would quickly form small pockets, like for example Donbass has and organize themselves into heavily armed nations.

By this time, maybe within the first 12 months, the global population would further drop by another billion – due to abject poverty and further starvation, leaving a core 1.5 to 2 billion of strong, well armed and organized pockets, spread around the world. Global nuclear forces, command and control would remain intact and may try to organize and govern some of these remaining pockets, on the basis of national borders and necessity. I should think trust, would be a commodity in short supply globally, by this stage

Due to ‘statistical anomalies’, many large population centres will escape large losses and may even provide an unexpected change in their geopolitical dominance, due to fortunate savings in people and infrastructure. Given these and the large pockets of armed groups, there would likely be further fighting for a number of years – including the further use of the many remaining nuclear weapons, where some of the causes of WW3, might be placed under direct pressure, until a semblance of global cooperation and order returns in about 10 years.

Personally I would prefer to take my chances with luck and Nature, hoping that fortune prevails. The last place I’d want to be is festering underground, with a bunch of paper-rich nutters.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 10:45 | 5731345 newworldorder
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A rural county, where family awaits you, where you are trusted, with shelter, some needed tools you can bring with you and a usefull skill to help your neighbors with, is the key to survival. 

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 11:41 | 5731452 Niall Of The Ni...
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Bullshit. Any such war will destroy most, if not all, of industrial civilization's physical capital stock. Productivity will fall to pre-industrial levels, and so will population levels---a drop of 90 percent, at least.

And that's assuming agriculture is still possible at all. If nuclear winter doesn't see off the carbon cycle, anything that grows may be too radioactive to be edible.

Like the man said, we will all go together when we go. That's the whole point of (say) the Samson Option---any serious attempt to wipe Israel off the map will wind up wiping out the Gentiles too. 

That's why our masters respect the wishes of Russia and Israel but not Greece. No amount of Fed-confetti would be enough to make them whole after a nuclear war.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 07:25 | 5731127 Doom and Dust
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Morale: Rich people are at least as stupid as poor people, but there's a lot more money to be made exploiting them.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 07:28 | 5731128 K_BX
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And all your wealth, gold, possessions, insurances are worthless within a dysfunct society.

If you are guided by fear no possession will heal you, realizing this and letting go is the truth.

The things you own end up owning you.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 07:57 | 5731152 smacker
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I'd say at this point there are two scenarios that could play out. They could happen together or individually:

- Without meaningful change from where we are today, as anger rises we could see growing incidents of hi-profile criminal banksters and their political allies being taken out. This could be called "wiping out the criminal elites" who have caused all this mess. This process may already have begun but there's a lot more to do.

- A complete breakdown across society due to Crash II and/or WWIII. This is the greatest fear the elites have and explains why they are buying up farms in NZ etc to make a run for it when the time comes. Sadly, they can run but cannot hide. Many will be found and dealt with.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 08:22 | 5731160 Zoomorph
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What do they know? Why are so many super poor preparing "bug in" strategies?

A lot of the ultra-poor people are noisely preparing to "bug in" when the time comes. They are buying gold, they are buying defense equipment, and they are writing survival strategies in their internet comments. In fact, a prominent blog-writer on ZeroHedge says that "life is about to change, and signs of the coming storm are everywhere".

So what do they know? Why are so many of the super-poor suddenly preparing to bug in? When the poor of the world start preparing for doomsday, that is a sign that they are very troubled. And right now the poor appear to be quitely preparing for disaster like never before.

The insider I mentioned above is named Michael Snyder. He is a long-time blogger on ZeroHedge with an IQ of 75 and grade 5 writing skills, and what he continually tells his fellow doom-and-gloomers makes headlines all over the internet...

The following are 11 items that I recommend that every household have on hand…

– an axe

– a can opener

– flashlights

– battery-powered radio

– extra batteries

– lighters or matches

– fire extinguisher

– blankets

– sewing kit

– duct tape

– tools

Wow.

And Michael is not the only one saying these things.

The following quote comes from Simon Black (paraphrased):

The world is ending guys. Quick, buy my podcast to figure out how to save yourselves or you'll all be doomed.

Of course not all poor people are planning to bug in when the "shit-hits-the-fan".

Some are dreaming about using guillotines to behead those who were more successful than themselves in the past.

Other poor individuals are merely drinking their problems away.

For much more pointless rambling, childish insights, and unanswered questions on this, please see my previous article entitled “Why Are So Many Poor People Posting Doom-and-Gloom On The Internet?

So why are all of these poor people so alarmed?

The poor, miserable, jealous, and resentful have always existed, have always prophesized doom-and-gloom, and have always dreamed of brutally killing those who are not as miserable as they are.

All of this over just a few snowflakes, fancy cars, and expensive prostitutes.

If the poor and miserable are preparing to bug in, it is hard to blame them.

I would be excited if a big volcano erupted, too.

Life is a continual challenge and those who can't cope with it often like to dream about a huge, dramatic change, imagining that they'll suddenly be able to cope better with it then.

I hope you aren't taking their delusions too seriously. Remember that they are, above all, impotent, otherwise they wouldn't be in their situation to begin with. Have a little laugh at their expense: there's no point in the whole world being gloomy.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 08:36 | 5731181 papaswamp
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Only way this works if for them to have advance notice. They will never make it to their location ( unless they already live there) once TSHTF. This is clearly shown when hurricanes make landfall. Traffic backs up massively and it take 20 hrs just to go 100 miles. Now apply a massive disaster on a larger scale. Unless the BOL is 150 miles away or less, or they have advance notice they wont make it. Thus assuming they would have advance notice, the 'event' is manufactured and its execution controlled by (insert name(s) here).

Stock up on bottle caps...it will be the new gold.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 09:18 | 5731233 U4 eee aaa
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So they are building their prisons for us. We are half way there

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 09:36 | 5731257 Wahooo
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They better have a huge New Zealand army protecting them. Because when the flotillas of pissed off Asians, Americans and Australians arrive, the country is going to be fucked. NZ better think twice about allowing them in.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 12:24 | 5731533 JR
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They won't be allowed in.

 New Zealand will never Mexicanize, er Americanize, her nation.  Say, you want to retire in New Zealand. "The good news is that it’s possible. The bad news is that most people won’t qualify (especially if American or over the age of 50).” From ENZ:

The Simple Version:

You can retire to New Zealand if:

1. You have plenty of money

2. You have children here

3. You obtain permanent residence – you might achieve this, for example, as a skilled worker. People have obtained residence while in their 50s with a view to working here for a few years, then retiring.

Okay, that was the simple version.

If your only possible route is the third option, you’re now finished with this page. You need to look at the usual immigration channels, such as the Skilled Migrant Category.

Now there are just two options left. And we need to start going into more detail, so hang in there.

http://www.enz.org/retire.html

http://www.dol.govt.nz/immigration/knowledgebase/item/2881

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 10:04 | 5731267 roadhazard
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A bunker is the worst place to be. You are trapped and without air you die. It will not be hard to find the air vents. I hope all "elites" have a bunker. Don't those bunker people know that the workers who built it know all about it and they were not invited.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 12:08 | 5731498 22winmag
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We connect your calls. We build your luxury bunkers.

 

Do not f#ck with us.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 09:57 | 5731273 Lazane
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I'll tell you what, you build your bunker, and I will yearn for God and his universe ascension plan. 

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 10:02 | 5731280 roadhazard
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If you can survive the first year you are pretty much going to have your surroundings to yourself.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 13:29 | 5731693 Village-idiot
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The second year you'll have to contend with rampant disease such as plague. The almost total destruction of the medical system. What is now a minor medical problem will seem huge. A small cut could kill you. A broken leg may be a death-sentence.

I hope you're prepared for that!

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 10:06 | 5731287 BrokusDickusMaximus
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I don't think too many undesirables will make it past the inbred cannibal clan at the bottom of our mountain road. Their pack of Cujo looking dogs will take care of the sappers.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 10:29 | 5731310 The Magus
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Snyder has been writing artlcles like this for years. None of his predictions have ever come to pass.

Watch the SB today, go to work tomorrow. This year will no different than the last.

Drink some beer and relax.........

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 10:31 | 5731314 Road Hazard
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Why are the elite looking into riding out the upcoming storm, underground or at far away places? Who are they hiding from? It's not like they used their money to buy off politicians to have laws written that favored them at the expense of the average Joe is it?

 

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 12:09 | 5731504 Sambo
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Looks like they are preparing for a big scale war, maybe WW-III.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 10:40 | 5731331 Robert.Paulson
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Preppers gonna prep.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 11:14 | 5731395 22winmag
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Most of these people thrive on attention and exercising their power. Bunker life is not so glamorous. They will venture outside after a few days and get shot or become zombie food.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 12:08 | 5731494 begintowin
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Homer the Undead says, "Mmmm, I love zombie food. For an appetizer I'll start with Walton pate made from fresh ground bone. Then a main course of warm Buffett with a little Soros sauce on the side and a big, big, helping of mashed Rothschild. A glass of Koch Brothers blood wine goes well with such a scrumptious meal too. To finish I'll have a double scoop of rich Bloomberg pudding served in an Ortega waffle cone for desert and topped with just a tablespoon of creme de Gates. Mmmm, Zombie food, it's so delicious. I can't wait."

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 11:21 | 5731412 wrs1
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You can't hide from death

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 11:30 | 5731428 Z_End
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Snyder is probably making a lot of money off people going to the Prep sites he has on his page. He is simply pimping his business.

The Elite have always had their boltholes and plans.

NZ is truly a beautiful place. I encourage everyone to go visit at least once.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 11:50 | 5731464 Raging Debate
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This guy isn't smart enough or have balls to say the solution is to stop political lobbying. Dry up the bribe money and politicians may actually have to solve some problems outside of supporting monopolies and mass looting schemes from banking. Those government types where no one is above the law are called Republics. Something as an American I realize we most certainly are no longer.

Global empires always end badly so hedging at whatever level you can is wise. After some preps go try and live life and have a little fun. All of us talking here will die at some point we aren't the generations that can escape old age and death.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 12:01 | 5731481 falak pema
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Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines : for our vines have tender Grapes --- Song of Solomon from the Bible.

Lillian Hellman wrote a play and Hollywood made a movie on that theme with Bette Davis.

The theme is the story of a ruthless woman who conspires to become very rich, abandoning her sick hubby to death, and finds out it doesn't either make you happy or loved. In fact it makes you fearsomely lonely, hated and afraid of future.

...She tells Regina she will not watch her be "one who eats the earth," and abandons her. Having let her husband die, alienated her brothers, and driven away her only child, Regina is left wealthy but completely alone...

Our Oligarchs today are now feeling the awesome chill. 

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 12:05 | 5731488 Niall Of The Ni...
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Johnson is a Soros lackey trying to supply a rationale for giving more stuff to the Free Shit Army with money borrowed from George Soros et al., preferably at positive interest rates. Paying people what they're worth? Forget that!

I notice inequality is a particularly big problem in "developing" countries, like Russia and China, countries that for the most part govern themselves and don't owe their souls to George Soros et al.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 13:19 | 5731631 Village-idiot
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Do you ever get the feeling this whole thing is planned?

The influence of Christianity has become almost non-existant.

Children in the public school system have been indoctrinated to believe "There are no absolutes". In other words, if you steal to feed your starving family, it's not really stealing. If you steal food to feed others, it's not really stealing. If you steal food from your neigbour who worked all Summer to grow vegetables for his family, that's ok because you're hungry. If you kill for a loaf of bread, it really murder because you're hungry.

Our food has been adulterated with poisons of every kind.

Our soils and water have been poisoned by herbicides, insecticides, etc. Not to mention the chem-trails raining down on us (nano-aluminum particles).

Soils all around the world are depleted of almost all trace elements leading to malnutrition and sickness everywhere. Don't you ever wonder why there's so much chronic illness? People getting joints replaced. Asthma, allergies, diabetes, arthritis, cataracts, and on and on and on...

The police all around the world have been militarized.

I have come to the conclusion that the Elites who are running this world are complete idiots. They think they'll reduce the population of this over-crowded planet this way? The few left after all of this will have to try and survive in a destroyed and poisonous world that will barely be able to support any natural life at all. Any individual who could possibly help repair this damage will be eliminated along with the other "useless mouths".

I wish them good luck! They're going to need it.

So, who do you think planned all of this? Who do you think is behind it all? The world-bankers? The Rothschilds? You are Naive.

The planner of all this is the god of this world, the Greatest Liar, the Greatest Impersonator,... call him what you will. But his real name is Lucifer. 

I put no faith in any government of this world. My faith is in God. May His son return soon.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 13:40 | 5731713 Psquared
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My take is they've just run out of things on which to spend their ill-gotten gains.

If there is a nuclear or asteroid apocalypse there will be no place to run and hide. If it's an economic apocalypse and a breakdown in law and order I'd rather invest my time into working with my neighbors to turn our neighborhood into a fortress, train a militia and start learning how to raise crops and livestock.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 14:32 | 5731856 bid the soldier...
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same as always:

"So what do they know?"

 

YOU CAN'T TAKE IT WITH YOU WHEN YOU GO

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 14:50 | 5731912 lordkoos
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The pitchfork-and-torches clock has started beeping.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 15:41 | 5732069 the grateful un...
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you're rich, you're embedded someplace, deep underground, the economy is broken, stock market shut down, all you've got is a lot of gold coins, and no place to spend them. every time to pop your head up somebody takes a shot at you. you try to travel in a convoy of hummers with like types, but the miscreants are rigging IEDs.  the problem is you're a big fricking target. some criminals find out where you are and they break into your bunker (burgulars dont mess around with low income homes). the more you have the more it takes to hold onto it. its possible if you dont have much, and you know some people, and they like you, that they will cover your hideout. but if you're a fat cat banker, you're going to be roadkill. 

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 15:48 | 5732086 Shitgum Suicide
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Ferguson? Really ferguson is on the minds of the elites all over the world? A fucking lie of a hoax fraud of "hands up don't shoot" bullshit is just stupid. That's about as funny as the world leaders taking Zero seriously let alone think that he has any balls.

Well in his mouth but not any that would suggest masculinity.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 16:20 | 5732190 Salsipuedes
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I think being vaporized with everybody else is preferable to being stuck with a bunch of psychotic cannibals who still think they're hot stuff. Imagine having to eat Warren Buffett. I'd rather die.

Sun, 02/01/2015 - 19:18 | 5732746 Victory_Garden
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The horrible future for America is coming into sight. A greater sadness comes across the once land of the brave. It is the realization that all the agendas and evil plans of so many criminals working for the moneygod have bought down the Great American experiment to it's deathbed. Every day we continue to see the end of what was, and the spreading virus of the craziness that is everything anti-American, and everything anti-Christ.

As it is shaping up, all those who gave their lives and sacrificed so much in the form of blood and treasure during the past world wars for the banksters to profit from and to move them closer to the long range plans of world domination and population elimination, has all been for naught. A total waste of lives and time. Oh, how it has been supported and financed so well by the very people that the new world evil will eventually kill.

The evil rages on with distraction after distraction. So many are part of the evil, and a greater many of the others in the majority are fast asleep not even caring about the future. Dumbed down by so many evil ways. It is the sickness of world ignorance at its best. One can go off and ask why and come to a ship load of reasons this has happened. Things like pouring tons of poisonous aluminum oxide into the world air, and fluoride into the world water systems are amongst the top ten. The USA society has become a drugged out zombie nation, ripe and ready for slaughter by the evil agendas.

What comes is deep heartbreak remembering our elders speak to those horrible stories about world war two, and now seeing clearly how they all gave so much for nothing. The wins turn out to be greater losses than any one can imagine if you consider so many died so their children could live in slavery to the criminal corporate govts that are ALL owned by the evil bankster moneygod. There are still so many that can not see the evil. Today, it becomes obvious as to the general direction America is going into. Subjugation under the foreign gun for the almighty moneygod.

Here are a few things to ponder. As the set up to profit from are made around the whole greece scam, and g. sorros plays his cards to prepare for the next evil event to happen, greece falls, maybe a few others, and then all eyes are on that whole planed fiasco. The distraction crises might then shift towards europe. Prolly the crash of the euro union moneygod system. Who knows? Ask george the rottenchid puppet.

Meanwhile, the evil is hard at work in the USA. Can you say North American Union? And, how about the Keystone pipeline that begins the consolidation emergence into the new amero globalist moneygod control system. As the crash of the euro happens, so it may happen to the dollar. The martial law bank holiday, and planned false flag events can come into play. The route of chaos eventually goes to a three country consolidated money control system in the North American Union. The mexican army has already taken over the western half the united states of america. They are a byproduct of globalist financing and support to destroy America from within. Many will not even see Paco the gardener turn out to be allibaba the globalist liberal sorros stooge nazi who just killed their whole families from behind their backs. Can you just imagine if every mexican national sorros puppet in the right places poisoned all the food in every restaurant they worked in for one day as planned to do when told to do it? The evil behind organizing scores of invaders including the coming chinese armies, has moar moneygod power than the unorganized zombie TV watching ipod centered brain dead careless american society. When the power and Internet is shut down, it will be the insanity of withdrawing drug and alcohol addicts gone wild. Most will not even know how to scratch their arse with out being able to send a text about it.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-19/45-facts-show-how-far-america-has-fallen-generation

They mexican/alien chinese russian whoever invaders already call it the “occupied lands of atzatlan” brazenly telling the world there is no moar california, nevada, arizona, utah, texas, new mexico, and colorado. Yeah, these states are now azatlan. Watch your back, Americans. Paco, Lulu, and Sin-sim the cook all have secret guns.

http://www.mayorno.com/WhoIsMecha.html

http://www.aztlan.net/

And just who voted to allow the foreign takeover of America? Look in the mirror. Who is in a hurry to go off to war on the enemy du jour? Look in the mirror. Stupidity and ignorance are blind to political shades of idiot voters that actually think they have a choice in the criminal election system. The money fix is in and no one has enough moneygod to change it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2ty3b4EBMg

The real ugliness is in the wickedly evil admiralty law system. The fourth branch of govt. The american nazi storm troopers are enforcers for the evil corrupted system of queen owned bar lawyers that protect the banksters and oligarchs using the devils own language that most can not even comprehend. The deal is, mans temporary laws are mans creation and not laws that stand the tides of Gods/Universal Laws. Time tells all things.

The chaos and crackdown on American dissidents will come after the gun grabbers create some kind of event to blame veterans and patriotic American folks. You lay down and die for your freedoms and American Values, or you just die. The sheep do not even know how to stand together to be a greater force than the evil that is coming after some event to trigger the planed soros martial law.

The rest of the world has already been bankster pussyfied. Only an armed America stands in the way of world domination and a total loss of any kind of freedom world-wide. This civil war may happen after a period of time passes in which the survivors of some kind of war event, or a contrived false flag event tear each other up for food and water for many months. There are already too many dominoes setup to fall if you expand the awareness level of where the ship is headed. No one cares. Bolshevistic Americans killing fellow Americans could be coming as set up. This as well as all the mexican and foreign soldiers joining Homeland Gestapo vs any and ALL Americans that think they are free, or that do not want to be a slave. All this for those who make it into the next steps of insanity. There is so much evil in the world.

This long planed violent takeover and death of America comes in many forms besides those of murderous foreign and domestic mercenary troops killing everyone. One of the most blatantly evil ones is the subversive Agenda-21 attack. There are other globalzionist UN agreements like no guns for any of the people that will also come into play with the unlawful NDAA and Patriot act. This horrible self-killing of America is vast. Too many have taken the cool-aid. Any third grader can see it all for what it is if you dig around and assemble the dots that only point towards moar world domination, nazi America, and population elimination using wars and false flag events to attain the evil goals. The present situation in America is already really farked up but here is a little more to consider:

North American Union: North America: Time for a New Focus http://www.cfr.org/north-america/north-america/p33536

Agenda 21:

http://americanpolicy.org/agenda21/

Agenda 21-Behind the Green Mask:

http://www.behindthegreenmask.com/

How the exact process of the world crash into the unknown may go from one situation to another is at this point anyone’s guess and definitely in accordance with a Higher Power be it man, or something far greater. Any and all additional info is welcomed, but could it be that after the euro money has crashed, would that lead to the planed world war to start, or thereafter?

And speaking of thereafter, say then the dollar crashes two weeks or later, will that trigger the martial law and a flight to safety by the elites, or will it take another govt sponsored and or isrealli sponsored terror false flag event to do that? Could it all cascade downhill from there into anarchiaville? Certainly there are plans a badfoot. No average Joe will know what happens, but when the bushes fly south like the nazi scavengers they are, the clintons in tow, people will know the balloon is about to go up and well, who knows if the orders to nuke whole countries will be followed or not?

One day at a time walking in the place of grace. This is the Way.

Mon, 02/02/2015 - 02:47 | 5733908 Sovereign Economist
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Johnson is a Soros minion... he's setting us up for a big money grab for the poor...  just watch!

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