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US Moscow Embassy's "Whose Propaganda Do You Trust?" Poll Blows Up In Face
In the latest in a long list of Social Media embarrassment's for the status quo administrations around the world, Will Stevens - spokesman for the US Embassy in Moscow - unleashed the following tweet...
Russia Today teaches us "How to Write Propaganda"
https://t.co/JFwwINCUXo
#Poll, whom do you trust?
RT for @theEconomist, Fav for @RT_com
— Will Stevens (@WBStevens) January 30, 2015
The response needs no further commentary.
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Fuck obama!
If you can print it or air it, there are those who will believe it.
The majority of the remaining people will just look the other way
until their little world is rocked, but by then, it's too late to do anything about it.
I wouldn't get too excited. Judging by the amount of morons who watched the SuperBall, 'Mericans still have a long, long way to go before they understand what's at stake.
<---- Didn't Watch SuperBowl
<---- Watched SuperBowl
FWIW: I can't stand watching sports on TV. Big waste of time for me.
I was too busy teaching my son, watching my 3D printer, and drinking REAL beer to see some budweiser commercial tell me I'm not a "real" man for snubbing fake beer while watching dirty whores and meat-heads pound each other over the privilege of carrying a ball that was probably made in China.
Do you have a 3D printer? I was looking into purchasing one myself. Do you have any recommendations?
Yeah... I prefer the open RepRap printers and put together a Prusa i2 kit but it took a lot of tweaking and extras to get it printing smoothly. The community seems to be shifting more toward the delta printers now, so that will probably be my next one.
As far as recommendations, there's so many now it's impossible to keep track of them all and it really depends on how much you want to spend, what quality you're expecting and what kind of hands on involvement your comfortable with.
I want to be able to make a 3D printer with a 3D printer!
Come on now, you're starting to sound like the Federal Reserve.
http://www.tehrantimes.com/arts-and-culture/121284-iranian-institutions-... which side are you on Banzai?
“It is not a matter of what is true that counts, but a matter of what is perceived to be true.”
Henry Kissinger
short answer make one
Buy some parts, about $20. (seriously)
I've got the Orion Delta. It is ok, but like many of the hobby level ones out there, it is a bit cheesy on the mechanical design. I've had to replace several parts that broke under normal operation, and I haven't used it all that much either. Results are ok, but not great. Note - I'm not a real afficianado, it belongs to a client who wants me to design new control circuits and firmware.
My conclusion (based on very limited experience) is that these things are at the level of home computers in about 1979..... lots of geek hobbyists playing around at the level of playing pong, but a long way from usefully integrated yet. Cool for kid's science projects, though.
Clearly you should be aiming at metal printers.
Y'know something that you can print a 1911 on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7ZYKMBDm4M
"Other than that mr. Frakkin, how did you enjoy the game?"
The "team" that "triumphed" last year vs. the "team" that cheats? It doesn't get any moar "'Mercan" than that.
The bankster mentality creeps in to every aspect of society when "properly positioned" by the media.
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Ah, ah, Buttwiper®, the King Class of US citizen 'american' beers.
"When you say butt, you've said it all."
Those balls are all American! Made out of American raised cattle in an American plant in an American state called Ohio. One of the few things left that are made in America.
http://www.wilson.com/en-us/football/nfl/wilson-and-the-nfl/factory/
The balls between my legs is the only thing i know for a fact made in America, Unless my mom had an arabian night.
haha
Here is what Russell Wilson said to the Wilson he tossed as a pick at the one yard line at the end of the game...
"I'm sorry Wilson... I'm sorry"
But owned by the Finnish, which is better than the Chinese I guess. I'll give you that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amer_Sports
'Merica
"I was too busy teaching my son, watching my 3D printer"
I was applying subtractive metal working during the Superbowl. (ie Mill work on a vertical Mill) I haven't committed $$$ and time to 3D printing yet, as I figured that it will take a few years for the technology to mature, but I think its getting there!
@GaiusFrakkin - I voted for Roslyn you sellout. Seems your time on new caprica has changed your mindset. LOL
Looks like the spokesman is highly interested in a good relationship with Russia, his host country. Also makes a good impression worldwide.
He's just mad because the colour revolution plan isn't working. Willie probably has to hide his face in moscow from fear of the citizenry. Let's pray the good ol boys find him.
I consider the Russians honest hosts. Willie can feel safe on the streets of moscow even after offending his hosts publicly on Twitter.
"In other news, the Ministry of Love announced today that they have authorized the expansion of Room 101 due to an apparent increased need for such services by the Outer Party."
After extensive analysis on the "truthability of newscasters" my new criteria for truth in delivery of news is whether the delivery girl takes her clothes off during the newscast.
Given that criteria, I believe more Russian newscasts than western ones, but I was dismayed that this lady did not deliver believable news (and take her clothes off).
Well, she did have a sailor's tattoo. That should be proof enough.
I was just thinking how terrible that looks. I despise tattoos. They're emblematic of the overall erosion of standards in a society. People are not animals to be marked.
Agreed. Tattoos are a real turn off for me.
The other big embarrasment recently is apparently John Mcain wrote an open letter to the Russian people explaining to them that they live in a sqalid dictatorship run by one power hungry maniac who would never allow them to read a letter such as the one he was writing.
He sent it to Pravda, which promptly published it.
These neo-cons love the taste of their own coolaid.
You'll have to wait in line with Reggie.
If I do not like the puppet show should I yell at the puppet or should I follow the strings and see where they lead in order to remedy my grievance? I suspect the puppet master will simply switch out puppets when we tire of the current one.
No one matches the CIA for its propaganda:
Since the beginning of the week, the three most influential mass circulation newsmagazines of the United States, Britain, and Germany—Time, The Economist, and Der Spiegel—have published cover stories that combine wild accusations against Vladimir Putin with demands for a showdown with Russia.
The most striking and obvious characteristic of these cover stories is that they are virtually identical. The CIA has scripted them all. The stories employ the same insults and the same fabrications. They denounce Putin’s “web of lies.” The Russian president is portrayed as a “depraved” mass murderer
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/07/30/pers-j30.html
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." -- William Colby, former CIA Director
"You could get a journalist cheaper than a good call girl, for a couple hundred dollars a month." - CIA operative discussing with Philip Graham, editor Washington Post, on the availability and prices of journalists willing to peddle CIA propaganda and cover storiesAgreed. Anyone that can cover up the owners of the Fed, the truth about elections and political backgrounds, guns and narco running, the truth about an assassination, an attack on the WTC and the Pentagon, not to mention ISIS and Ukraine, deserves the propaganda BS lifetime achievement award.
German newspaper Spiegel reported that the keylogging virus "Regin" has source code very similar to the "Qwerty" virus.
The new analysis provides clear proof that Regin is in fact the cyber-attack platform belonging to the Five Eyes alliance, which includes the US, Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. However neither Kaspersky nor Symantec commented directly on the likely creator of Regin.
IT security firm Kaspersky identified significant portions of identical source code which is embedded in both programs. The company worked with Symantec to complete the earlier analysis of Qwerty.
The malware has been in circulation for over 10 years and had been deployed against targets in at least 14 countries, including Germany, Belgium and Brazil as well as India and Indonesia.
Both Symantec and Kaspersky did not shy away from superlatives when describing the malware program, calling it a "top-tier espionage tool" and the most dangerous cyber-weapon since Stuxnet, the notorious malware program used to attack the Iranian nuclear program.
Source: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/regin-malware-unmasked-as-nsa-...
And the usual questions: Why? Why now? Who benefits?
Why now? Maybe they were about to have their cover blown.
But my guess is that they've come up with something even better.
BINGO!!!
thanks
i thought i was the only one paranoid[?]ized.
if the CIA owns Spiegel's journalistic output, you have to ask the question why they are revealing NSA tips and tricks for public consumption....
I see you are not familiar with the term 'limited hangout'..
Council on Foreign Relations members in the intelligence community and the media use a psychological strategy called a "limited hangout." A "limited hangout" is used by Intelligence Organization's when a clandestine operation goes bad; or, a phoney cover story blows up. When discovered the Intelligence Organization volunteers some of the truth while still managing to withhold key and damaging facts in the case.
The public is so intrigued by the new information it doesn't pursue the matter further. The new disclosures are sensational, but superficially so. Some of the lesser scoundrels are identified and publicly exposed to twist uncomfortably on network TV and in the press.
The people of America are fooled by Council on Foreign Relations members in control of the Intelligence Organizations, and the media, who have engineered another, more sophisticated cover-up operation. The misinformation and misdirection protects Council self-interests, and as many fellow members as possible. The public remains in the dark, and the guilty escape punishment.
wow, sounds like how i stayed one step ahead of trouble. i luv my created strawman stories of half truth. admitting i could have been aware of said such but wanted to remain "doing the right thing". ha, fucking great post!!!
or maybe its something else
i am familiar with the term.
which phoney cover story blew up that prompted "the great reveal" by snowden?
which clandestine operation went bad?
you will also need to explain if the CIA intended to drive a divide between EU-US relations, because "the great reveal" was the final blow to american credibility as a trusted partner.
TTIP is not going through.
and the Greeks will make sure of that too...
The Alphabet agencies release info of their spying programs in small doses as conditioning. In small doses the public becomes quickly adjusted to new revelations of the increased diminishment of their privacy and civil rights, with very little hiss from the plucked goose. Are Snowden/Greenwald/Omidyar/NSA all part of a Snow job? Eventually, piece by piece, the spy agencies will let us officially know the entire scope of their interlocking operations in order for their effectiveness and universality to be clearly understood, respected and feared by the public. It is my belief that Snowden/Greenwald et al are just operatives to these ends.
The smug assholes who invent these false narratives can't help but insert little clues: "Snowden" is a character in Catch-22 by (Russian Jew) Joseph Heller.
You know, about 15 years ago I dated this girl. She was really hot and really smart, but things never seemed to progress, the relationship would constantly get derailed over little things, sometimes I'd do something and she'd be overjoyed about it and I'd do the same thing six weeks later and it'd unleash satan. I spent months analyzing it, trying to figure out the pattern of what I was doing wrong, keeping track of every minor detail, trying to understand her. I ended up asking a psychologist about it, shared my notes, and asked why I couldn't figure this out.
The answer ended up being life altering for me. The girl was crazy, and because of this, her responses were completely random. I was trying to understand a pattern that was as consistent as the numbers that come up rolling dice. Sometimes you can't understand something because it's simply crazy. So you ask "Why, Why now, Who benefits?" and I think about it, and our typical TPTB answer or whatever, but I think we're to the point where it's surpassing that. I think we're just dealing with crazy.
Paranoia knows no limits, and TPTB are getting nervous. We're close to the collapse, and they desperately need wars to cover it up, and people just aren't buying the bullshit anymore.
The fundamental issue I think is how weak their cases are, we're seening levels of hype against Russia we haven't seen since the the peak of the cold war, and the absolute best case made is a handful of soldiers crossing the border into a neightboring country the US just caused a coup in, and the evidence for even that is sketcy at best. No missiles in Cuba, no invasion of Afghanistan, no communist uprisings in latin america (plenty of commie collapse going on there, though!)
They're rapidly assuming everyone is the enemy -- other countries, allies like Germany, their own citizens -- so I'd expect even more crazy spying/cyberwarfare stuff to happen. I commented a couple weeks ago I'd installed a cellular spying notification tool on a disused smartphone of mine, and had a notice of an attempt to compromise the phone in under a day, with enough log evidence to convincement it was very much a real attempt. Now, outside of bitching on ZH, I am about a boring as it could possibly get, with a social life one step above living in the parent's basement. There's no reason for anything like this, yet it happens.
None of this is something a sane, stable government does. So you have to assume the opposite, that the US government is insane and unstable.Crazy. We see it in headlines here almost every day.
I think we're witnessing the equivalent of a nervous breakdown in the US federal government, due to the cognitive dissonance of having completely fucked the country economically and socially to protect it from enemies that never existed, and it's had a psychotic break from reality to keep the myth going on inside it's collective head. And I think that means we're getting really close to the end of this chapter of american history.
Cool post seek. I agree. Add to the "crazy" hordes of sociopaths all attempting to game the system from different angles. What a mess.
"hordes of sociopaths"
I don't condone Immoral and illegal behavior. Sadly it has become accepted by a larger number of people than at any other time in recent history. The media glamorizes organized crime and more recently the bankster lifestyle. Now seemingly, the largest segment of organized crime or at least the most visible.
Law enforcement and the courts really do nothing to curb their illegal activities. So they are being rewarded for it. That environment changes some people for the worse.
So you see more and more scam artists just about anywhere you look. Some of the scams so crude and clumsy it is laughable. What isn't too funny are identity theft, tax return fraud as one example. It is exploding and the IRS does not really seem to be able to do much to curb it. Or could they? Or are they afraid that if they went to positive ID PIN system for every taxpayer that that would get hacked and make it worse?
It does seem as though there has developed a higher level of abandonment of morality. Get rich quick and get out, I think much of the growth is attributable to the fact that corruption is so widespread, so prevalent and so visible that people are De-sensitized to it. There is also a lot of desperation out there going on year seven of a world wide depression.
Pitiful
Government is nothing more than a collection of thieves and murderers. How can that be sane and stable?
What is the name of the app/tool, if you don't mind?
SnoopSnitch, from SRS Labs.
It only works with certain android phones with a subset of Qualcomm chip sets, but I happened to have one (Galaxy Young, a super-cheap samsung android throwaway.)
There's a second app, IMSI-Catcher Detector, that is similar as well, but SnoopSnitch seems to be a bit more broad in the feature set.
I let it run for a few days on a personal phone sim, and nothing came up. I swapped it out for my business phone sim, and got a hit within a few hours. It's interesting because I kept having my business phone spontaneously reboot every couple days, and I suspect this was connected. SnoopSnitch reported that I was getting sent a binary SMS (which is highly unusual for SMS) from a particular number. I googled that number and there were dozens of complaints of people getting "gibberish" or blank texts from it (which makes sense given it's a binary payload.) No one knows who or what is behind that number, but the next discovery I had is pretty big clue.
All that was intriging, but to me the most intriging part is... So my cell provider, like many, documents every single SMS recieved, the time it came it and the source number for billing purposes. This text message... never appears on the bill.
You realise phone providers use multimedia SMS's to configure your phone network settings "Over The Air"... Google "OTA SMS".
They probably discovered an unconfigured device and were trying to set your phone to work with their gateways.
Yes, this was a SMS, and not an MMS, and the number was explicitly a third party and not part of the management system. (I've coded for phones in the past FWIW.)
Iamaninsecurecunt.com
Seek is obviously not breeding material. The Ladies know baby
Girls, why do you put up with these losers?
Great analogy but how does one go about breaking up with this crazy girlfriend call DC?
Sometimes I agree with your analysis and think that yes, this is insanity or TPTB are cracking up. Then I look at it another way. It's all going according to plan. Follow the money and you see that psychopaths who drean this shit up AND THOSE WHO FUND THEM or are connected to them socially, economically, and politically just seem to get richer, more powerful, and never seem to miss a beat while everyone else seems to experience hard times. See 2008 if you need a refresher. Or find the logic in the looming veto of a pipeline. Reason for that? Obama fixer/puppet master Warren Buffet is the guy who controls the lion's share of the ground transport of what would run through that pipeline. Never mind the pipeline is far safer, more efficient (the idea that we use all sorts of energy to transport fucking energy is patently absurd) thing's got be stopped so that the maggot Buffet is protected. Quite non-insane if observed from that side.
There have been quite obvious examples of true insanity. We can always default to Adolf and the tragic farce of that time. While current powers definitely utilise similar methods (propaganda, demagoguery, police state tactics, Keynesian economics, etc) I believe the motivation is far less a force of a collective insanity. In fact I see it as a calmly planned and rather shrewdly executed plan to enrich themselves and execise power over their fellow man. Hell, just read what these sociopaths write. FDR was a great admirerer of both Fascist Germeny and especially Italy under Mussolini. Just because he did not want to exterminate a certain ethnic or religious group does not mean he was no less a fascist tryrant. Unlike FDR Abe Lincoln just up and ignored The Constitution, waged war ON HIS FELLOW CITIZENS, ordered the mass murder of countless civilians, and til his dying day was a believer in the supremacy of the white man and desired to deport all Africans back to the continent of AFrica. And he's some sort of hero to many people. Kinda make the current crop of rulers look quite tame and rather sane, no?
this is why i frequent zh!! simply confusingly clear when one believes nothing on its' surface revelation. it all comes together, for me, when i follow the money, its creation, and its use as control(backed by threat of violence). simply put, the banking cartel working from the same script. it works. they keep the "insiders" farting in silk and have an invisible barrier to outsiders by the power of wealth distribution. as george said "you aint in thefucking club". we can all understand, but to do something about it, hmmm; enjoy the day, 'cause it's gonna get uglier b/4 better...
occasionally an ousider penetrates the club, ie fuckerberg...
The issue isn't the breakup, it's doing it without finding a pet rabbit boiling in a pot when you come home.
Honestly, I think if things were going to plan, none of this would be happening, and the theft would go unnoticed. I think what we're actually seeing right now is a mad scramble to grab on to whatever they can before the ship sinks, Increasingly the moves seem ad-hoc to me. Yes, you can argue that there is some grand plan by complete psychopaths to collapse the system so they can roll out a new one, etc, but when I look at it with fresh eyes, I see a system that's already collapsed, and yet the Fed, ECB etc are scrambling to save it. There's an inherent conflict in that. It could be that the puppets are just ill-informed as to the plan, or it could be that there's more than one faction in play here, and one wants more time and the other less. But looking at it right now, collectively the behavior is, well, crazy. I think if there is/was a plan, we're so far off of it that they're having to wing it, or the plan has simply failed and they're trying to come up with a new one in real time. Unless the plan was simply create unorganized chaos everywhere, there's no plan that's working. (And if that indeed was the plan, well, that's crazy as well.)
My sense is yes, was there was a plan for some sort of unified global control, that had been in play for the better part of one hundred years, but that today's world reflects its failure a few years short of the goal, and the players are getting increasingly desperate to force it to happen and getting crazier and more frantic with each passing day when it doesn't, and that as the insiders themselves have lost faith as they see this and they are quietly (or not so quietly) packing their own lifeboats to the limit before the big ship sinks. Yes, opportunists will surface during and after, but this is looking way less like a unified master plan and a lot more like and insane clusterfuck that's out of control.
You're providing good examples of this, clearly different factions benefit from the presence or absence of the pipeline -- they're not unified in the outcome. There are other signs of a breakdown in cooperative efforts within TPTB as well, and I think they add up to this craziness. Sort of like the TPTB have a sudden case of multiple personality disorder, which may be syptomatic of a loss of leadership with a single focus which has been replaced by a committee with dozens of conflicting interests.
My takeaway with all this wordiness? This much crazy means chaos will reign, so be prepared, be flexible, stay loose and frosty. Bumpy ride ahead.
I think this was the big fail: https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=2bb691b61c59be3a681...
There was a big plan, maybe there went all in. And got hurt.
brilliant, seek, spot on. thanks for the succinct insight.
When trying to analyze TPTB's actions, you MUST understand their true intent. Otherwise of course their actions will seem random.
Most people can't emotionally handle TPTB's true intent, and so end up concluding that they are acting randomly, crazily, totally disorganized 'every man for themselves'.
But it isn't so.
Their plan is and has been for at least 50 years, to depopulate the Earth. Down to around 500 million or even less. They believe it's crucial for the survival of Earth, to eliminate about 6.7 billion people, the sooner the better.
This mega-death has to be done in a way that doesn't obviously originate from TPTB, otherwise they risk losing control and finding their own few thousand selves swinging from lamp posts. And so, the plan *requires* a great deal of chaotic progressive collapse, that superficially appears to be 'just one disaster following on from another', as a kind of self-sustaining natural chain of events beyond anyone's control.
Except in reality, it's deliberate. There are *some* random events, but most of it is going as intended. The next stage is war combined with epidemics, combined with 'innoculation compaigns' that are actually delayed sure-kill shots, producing extremely high mortality from apparently unrelated natural causes such as cancer, spread over a few years after the shots.
The destruction of America as a free, informed, well armed and industrially capable society, along with the Internet, is also part of the plan.
Interesting post, but I'm going to have disagree with the basis of your argument. You girlfriend wasn't crazy, she was just being a woman! I've long ago stopped trying to understand women on a rational basis. Their thinking processes are fascinating and infuriating. Maybe that why we love them.
Here's a clue: it's not a tampon, it's a fuse.
crazy part time
diagnosis is borderline personality disorder transfer between fragile sanity (somewhat) and destructive crazy no one can explain
common to american and with some hollywood soap opera learning adds to hell
vs Russian real woman might go off, then smart man shut up let rest
24 hour she is back to charming time to think and even apologize
If you want stable look Siberian women best they will take care of you "to love and be loved"
helps if man does what he says he is going to do
Look at the banking puppet we have in the White House. There is no leadership. This means the alphabet agencies are running wild, unleashed. They should be shut down.
SEEK, nicely done. I see you have dated one of my exes..
"Paranoia knows no limits "
IF paranoia has limits I will damned well find them, bury the evidence of my transgression, and journey beyond rational thought...
Don't follow me I may be entering a sinister trap or designing one for you...
They called me distrurbed but I had barely budged!
what about all those nuclear weapons?
"The new analysis provides clear proof that Regin is in fact the cyber-attack platform belonging to the Five Eyes alliance" This is not true. Every programmer knows about "cut and paste" to save time. I'm just saying that analysis it not "clear proof" although I would not be suprised if it were true.
They simply are "the best liars in the world" period.
They have created and use sub-categories of lying that must have Goebbels smiling up from HELL.
That's exactly why I decided not to extend my trial iPad subscription of The Economist.
Yes, and ALL of their activities are CLASSIFIED, not to protect their operatives but to keep the truth from the American people. Excellent post by the way.
Rule for us: if we have nothing to hide, we have nothing to fear.
Rule for them: Fuck you it's national security.
Russia's biggest problem is they support the West's incompetent hostile management, even decades after the Cold War ended.
Russia's US agents and operatives never got the message (Cold War ended cease all hostile activities) and continued with the "Wreck, ruin, and demoralize America" economic and social/political strategy of the Cold War.
Russia still supports hostile poltical activities against America (fracking, unions, immigration, environmentalism. socialism, tribalism, dependence, debt, homosexuality, collectivism and MEGA BANKER COST SHIFTS).
How much time did RT spend in FNM FRE? teh FNM Foundation? The bailout of German banks? bout 2 min, how much on the idiots in Ferguson? bout 6 mo.
A broke Socialist America is a far more dangerous opponent to Capitalist Russia than solvent America ever was to Communist USSR. (we didn't need to steal anything or everything)
This is nuclear blowback Vlad, coming Russia's way.
BSA (Broke Socialist America) is Capitalist Russia's worst nightmare, there is nothing more unaccountable than a Broke Socialist Government, you ought to know.
We NEED MOAR! We can't cut, we just legalized invasion.
Pooper Popper,
Is your comment supposed to enlighten ZH members and add to our understanding of geopolitics?
Is your comment supposed to enlighten ZH members and add to our understanding of geopolitics?
no,im just pissed off on a monday,and thought I would vent....
You can Fuck Obama if you want...i figured long ago that both colored pajama pedos are trying to fuck me.
Dream on about it being one man you want to fuck. Its controlled opposition.
Does that add any value?
RIPS
Will Stevens needs a better grasp of the English language, implications in phrases can be a real bitch.
Mainstream news agencies are always better at reporting on foreign governments and suck at reporting about the domestic government.
Proppa-ganda.
Take a proper gander at what's really going on!
Don't sling poo, unless you are ready to be slung on.
It's so bad I now view the news, television and print, as simple entertainment.
malicious entertainment--FIFY
Neural programming is the program that's always on in MSM / Hollywood land.
malicious entertainment--FIFY
Did the followers of Will Stevens really understand what to do or did they get that they were actually "polling"?
I'm not so sure...
Will Stevens - Spokesman for the Moscow branch of Langley Nazi SS / Al-CIA-Duh / ISIS today called the kettle black. Sheeple stunned. News at 11.
Fellow tribesman Edward Bernays is father of kosher propaganda. How else have we so easily controlled USA? Rueters, AP, all international "news" goes though kosher filter. We control both sides. Always. Oy Oy Oy!!!
FUCK U MSM
LOL, I remember when The Economist embarked in that "all-British-media-against-Berlusconi" campaign that made Murdoch smile for years
I also remember when Lord Murdoch Himself was asked to answer some questions in London and addressed MPs like Jesus addressed children, and they nodded like children
interestingly, just two minutes ago I wanted to ask "englishpatient" if he was drunk, had a scathing remark ready... and the whole thread vanished
snip, snip, ZH? ;-) you too are media, you know?
but basically if you triangulate between Al Jazeera, Russia Times, half a dozen serious continental broadsheets, the Financial Times and the NYT/WST you get some idea on who are the biggest bullshitters. the only problem is that the day is too short to read everything and still do something else
on my place nr. one of bullshit media: everything owned by Murdoch
I agree with you about Murdoch but he's not alone in spreading lies, bigger lies and whopping lies. It seems to me nowdays that not one of the TV channels or newspapers can be trusted to report the facts and truth. This strategy of supporting The State was no more exposed than over MH-17 and before that, MH370. In the UK, one of the very worst nowadays at spewing disinformation, ignoring news that doesn't fit and spinning news is Sky News. That takes us back to Murdoch.
The BBC went full "war reporting" during the Scottish referendum. It's nothing more than a propaganda outlet.
you could read Asia Times Online too.......
Russian botnet lzol. So Tyler why didn't you write about the GS downgrade of russian economy.
Because we all know how impartial the Irishmen of Goldman Sachs are.
I guess you don't know about The Tribe's first rule: Lie to the Goys.
GS downgraded their ruble forecast. S&P junked Russia, and ZH covered it of course.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-26/sp-cuts-russia-cut-junk-ruble-p...
You could learn stuff around here if you'd read some.
Dumbass.
they believe their own bullshit on both sides. the problem with the usa is they think their bullshit is the only bullshit that counts but it is so far detached from reality it has become a caricature, a satire for any informed person to watch and listen to.
the party wankers and the right/left false divide make it all work like a trap. there you are in a cage, a skinner's box, thinking everything is normal because everyone else thinks it's normal.
Bank of Canada loses dereliction of duty case
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40Jz0LPQAQY
Since 1974 the Canadian central bank stopped issuing currency at zero interest, and instead started to borrow money at interest from private sources (the usual suspects)
This goes against its mandate, and has resulted in mounting national debt
The court case, brought by a very courageous couple and attorney, sought to correct this fraud
Don't expect this most important piece of news in the last 40 years of Canada to be reported on any mainstream news sources here
Was at an event regarding public banking about a week ago, where Rocco was a speaker.
Some good folks there.
The event was recorded and should be online soon.
Trouble is that the bit regarding damages has been struck, from what I understand.
I hope ZH will link to it so it can get high views
So if they win, the taxpayers pay?
Who owns the BOC?
RIPS
On paper the Bank of Canada is publicly owned
But since 1974 it has been acting in the interest of private lenders, not Canadians
The private lenders derive all the profit from this relationship, and would of course occur none of the costs if the Bank were to pay damages
In theory, BoCanada is owned by Canadains.
Trouble is it is held in TRUST (Trust!!!??? FFS) by the government - Minister of Finance, specifically.
As I said earlier, I'm pretty sure the damages part of the Comer lawsuit has been struck.
and the biggest opponent to the court ruling was canadian government! you cannot make that shit up.
who's stupid enough to not want to use the privilage to able to print free money? only someone that is afraid of the their rulers, the bankers. really pathetic.
The Canadian Government is led by a soulless minion, wholly bought and paid for by... those who do not have the best interest of Canadians at heart.
The court should force the BoC to reinstate issuance of interest free money. There should be damages laid on those to whom interest has been paid...
Yea... that's gonna happen...
that's huge news! harper will have the bank charter revised "legally".
Harper (leader of the right wing party) could destroy Trudeau (leader of the left wing party) since Trudeau the elder was premier when the private takeover of the Bank of Canada took place
Will he do it?
Or is he one more bankster toadie?
now it makes sense why trudeau was idolized in the press when he was pm. i never knew canada was using loonybacks until 1974 as part of the bank of canada charter.
MM
harper is a zioniest puppet. trudeu is his mother's son. left wing, right wing---it's irrelevant. canada will do what's it's told, especially when oil is low. when you look at ottawa, look first to DC, and israel, and then try to imagine what stance ottawa will take. canada is a colony, always has been. canadians are comfortable being a colony. it's the fundamental difference between merikans and canadians.
I honestly did not expect this case had a snowball's chance in hell of succeeding
But it did
Bank of Canada now has 60 days to appeal to the Canadian Supreme Court
This was done by "meek" Canadians, maybe focus your energies on the "Audit the Fed" bill, Rand Paul is due to reintroduce it again
I'm no fan of the State, but it's no reason to let the banksters have their way unencumbered
what's the point of auditing something that's illegal by your constitution?
let's see if mafia follows the law and pays taxes?
Education of the public
Same reason Dr. Paul ran
Education was the real reason for pauls run.
This things rigged. Canada and America (among others)are captured by central bankers. Maybe this lawsuit is why the bailins provisions were written into the buget?
I hope canadas central bank dies in a fire for it will be a harbinger to all the others out there.
Political division strengthening. Check out this camoflaged one where they divide for really really important issues.
Getting drunk.
http://videos2view.net/stronger-beer.htm#.VE1pcXVqBps.facebook
RIPS
Americans seem pretty comfortable now as a colony of Tel Aviv.
I've got a news flash for you. The U.S.A is a colony of Israel. Don't tell any Americans this. They can't handle the truth!
How did you come across this gem?
Just subscribe to the appropriate Youtube channels
You can create your own newsfeed this way
But I wish the Canadian news media would do its job instead
See Galati's comments regarding... But I wish the Canadian news media would do its job instead.
http://westcoastnativenews.com/the-canadian-court-case-mainstream-media-...
bluskyes....sgt report....silver for the people
Putin had all the time to build his own mechanism against Western propaganda. Being himself a man who had come to power with the help of media, he built his own media network which includes, for example, the TV network Russia Today, according to the Western standards, and "invaded" in millions of homes in the Western countries using the English language, promoting however the Russian positions as counterweight to the Western propaganda monopoly.
What's your point?
He is defending The Economist.
The same point as every other post he (as in bot) makes: to Pimp his blog.
http://www.zerohedge.com/search/user_comments?name=no+more+banksters
I cannot see the results, what was the ratio of Trust Economist vs. Trust the RT?
bottom of the twitter box, retweets(retwits) and favs.
58 RETWEETS 1,175 FAVORITES
I have a friend that says, "The only propaganda I believe is what is in my stomach and what is in my bank account."
Both locations eventually end up with the same end product.
LOL. As with most things in life.
Banking 101. His bank account is a lie.
I can't read twitterese.
I don't understand any part of this article. I can't tell who is doing what. All I see is RT being honest and the economist being shrill.
From what I have seen on Russian TV, spoken by Russians, they are very aware that all of their cheap foreign credit was cut off to their economy with the banking sanctions. Their businesses are left with taking out 17% plus loans in Rubles. Hence Russia will probably be dropping the shit out of its interest rates. But they pulled no punches on the descriptions.
what i have read is that their central bank is not making any loans to local businesses (hence the foreign credit markets) as it is controlled by some foreign interests since the birth of RF. usual suspects.
Central Bankers suppressing Russian economy'In GOD do we Trust'! Propagandized intervention?
The same 'GOD' the globe bows to under its terms of interpretation,...
BAD v. GOOD depending on what side the barrel of a silo is pointed!
Funny, the USSA has lost Turkey's strategic (military and continental devide) geography. Erdogan colluding with Putin and now Aegean Greece on the side of a Russia's [?] Ukraine.
Leave it to the babes mouths to spell out the 'TRUTH?'? Listen-up!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwAdhvvGFlo
Ps. Watch for Egypt to blow-up and the Saudi's Salman backing of the Muslim Brotherhood to crush the ISIS movement. All concurrently happening with Hezbollah being divvied up (spread-thin) in Lebanon as Israel begins its divide and conquer into Syria, with Africa's Sudan/ Ethiopia and the pivotal transit of 'Eritrea'?
that link comes up with "this video does not exist"
I believe also that Turkey will swing even more to Russia
Greece too, not sure how they would benefit
perhaps by just getting back at EU and US for there supposed help.
may the trappers fall in their own trap.
zerohedge not responding
bad vibes today with post going poof with 'fix'?
now, where was i? sorry bad link. fixed it:) the orwells (nice name) nice,... jmo
note: think armenian massacre by ottoman sultan in 1894-1896 and 1914 (ww1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamidian_massacres
this was created by capituation with britain that wanted the azerbaijan oil via caspian sea that rothschilds/ nobels were involved in big-tyme! today armenian relations can be fixed forever with turkey over ww1 if russia opens its archives (let's hope they weren't in yesterdays fire) and turkey opening up the real archives hidden because of land stolen[?] and having to compensate armenia. both (russia/turkey/armenia/eastern turk`kurd's) , all sides should be honest, period. http://www.socarplus.az/en/article/186/azerbaijan-oil-and-the-rothschild-brothers *french/british monopoly "Third US-Azerbaijan: Vision for Future", forum was held in Washington
note2: britain captured cyprus in 1878 and is still present along with the turks. britain also captured egypt as a vassal state in 1882 and didn't give up without a fight against nasser who won egypt's independence and the suez in 1956.
britain is a curse on the middle-east since balfour!
now, back to turkey and armenia/azerbaijan via iran into mediterrean with russian oil/gas.
the only country is georgia posing a problem, and bulgaria signin-up with russia.
ps. lost alot of data
Ps... please realize that alot of what i've said is right around the propagandaized-corner, prepping our assholes for some serious hem?oroids, and our future generations sacrifice,...[?]!
jmo
addendum: Pepe Escobar (The Roving Eye) today,.. "Turkey-the Ultimate Crossroads"
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MID-02-020215.html l
again, jmo
The video reminded me of how the main-stream-media in this country avoid the misdeeds by Obama, Democrats and the liberal Washington bureaucracy. And there are so many examples.
That's sad that The Economist - which I used to respect is part of the propaganda aparatus. It is a British publication but half its readers are in the US. Most of which are high income educated professionals. Shame on The Economist.
"high income educated idiots"
fixed.
Mention Regin on a website using Disqus and watch it disappear
We honeydicked some folks.
Regarding what's happening in Ukraine, the US media provides nothing but bullshit. The coverage is one sided based upon misrepresentations, omissions of truth and distorted one sided coverage. Only the news that fits the fabricated narrative is allowed to be on the air. So when RT shows Kiev forces shelling civillian areas, using heavy artillary and white phosphorus, this is something the US mainstream media cannot show as it doesn't fit the narrative. Kiev is good guys, DPR is evil bad guys supported by Russia, Putin=Satan.
I'm beginning to think Russia being badasses is all a fantasy by all of us and not anything near a reality. They still have a fucking US Embassy in Russia? They still have American Mcdonalds in Russia? NATO and UK forces are moving in and still there when big bad Russia is right there? Lets face it, it was all a fantasy that Putin and Russia was gonna jump up and not take the NWO's/USA's shit. Well, we were wrong. They are fucking pussies.
Those were responses the US was trying to obtain from Russia. Putin didn't take the bait. We'll see what he has in store -we can only speculate as to what surrises he has. I have some ideas from his recent actions and alliances with China and the BRICS, but I doubt there are not more.