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More Greeks Approve Of Russia's Leadership Than Europe's

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You know Merkel, Draghi, Dijsselbloem et al. have a problem when... More than one in three Greeks (35%) in 2014 approved of Russia's leadership, while fewer than one in four (23%) approved of the EU's leadership.

 

As Gallup reports,

Greeks' higher approval ratings may reflect the cultural, religious and economic ties that Greece has enjoyed for years with Russia, one of the country's major trading partners. But they also echo Greeks' strong displeasure with the EU's leadership, which they are more likely to have an opinion about than Russia's. Nearly as many Greeks have no opinion of Russia's leadership (30%) as approve (35%) or disapprove (35%).

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It would appear the people will not be too pupset should the Putin Pivot provide the next level of financial aid?

 

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Tue, 02/03/2015 - 22:04 | 5741511 Gilnut
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"The grass is always greener" syndrome, which is much of what I read here on ZH.   Greeks believe that the Russian thieves are better than the EU or US thieves.  Funny actually.   

Tue, 02/03/2015 - 22:24 | 5741561 Wolferl
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Greeks. Don´t see or treat them like rational grown-ups.

Tue, 02/03/2015 - 23:06 | 5741746 Harbanger
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It's not only the Greeks.

NYC Mayor DeBlasio (born Warren Wilhelm) calls to congratulate new Greek prime minister, hails victory for progressives .

http://us.newscodex.com/de-blasio-hails-progressive-victory-in-call-to-g...

Moar Hope and Change bitchez, global.

Wed, 02/04/2015 - 06:05 | 5742383 Peter Pan
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I suspect that Europeans in general might approve of the Russian leadership than their own.

This does not show how popular Russian leadership is but how unpopular European leadership has become.

Tue, 02/03/2015 - 22:27 | 5741605 Gilnut
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Downvotes for calling out all government as thieves?  I expected better from ZH.  I guess the truth hurts.  Sheeple of a different color?  So much for "fight club".   

Tue, 02/03/2015 - 22:31 | 5741620 stacking12321
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as the official zh spokesperson,  i can say that we somewhat admire the russian leadership, not because they aren't theives, but, because they are a counter-balancing force for the us imperial agenda, and have the balls to stand up to the us despite great cost and difficulty

Tue, 02/03/2015 - 22:37 | 5741643 Wolferl
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Well said. Even if Putin seems to have not much clue what he is actually doing.

Tue, 02/03/2015 - 23:03 | 5741731 smlbizman
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gilnut 1 week 6 days....fuck you

Wed, 02/04/2015 - 10:14 | 5742751 Gilnut
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Exceptionally intelligent reponse.  Thank you.  /s

Wed, 02/04/2015 - 00:25 | 5741994 tostaky06
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So we love Kamikaze ... he just did a financial crisis in the only country without debt ... such a hero ... 

Tue, 02/03/2015 - 23:25 | 5741804 gimme-gimme-gimme
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N'ah, Russia is just promising them they can start the debt game over if Greece pulls the plug and ass fucks EU in the process.

As much as I'd love to see this happen it would be pretty stupid in the long run. If Troika and the other corrupt bankers don't play ball I hope Greece seriously does as much financial damage as they walk out the door though.

In that situation the EU will only have themselve to blame for not acting in the 99% best interest.

What I find ironic is that Germany is acting towards Greece like the allies after WWI when Germany had to pay war reperations.

Wed, 02/04/2015 - 00:18 | 5741976 Sandmann
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Rubbish, it is nothing like. Greek business elites borrowed money they did not intend to pay back - those elites have their companies now in Luxembourg and Switzerland - the politicians took kickbacks for contracts with Siemens, Hochtief, HDW etc and the debts are saddled on Greeks who got no bribes.

When are Americans going to pay the TAXES to pay for their military instead of printing IOUs ?

Wed, 02/04/2015 - 00:35 | 5742014 ThirteenthFloor
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First Russia has a surplus cash flow and zero debt. Oh yes, they have 25k tons of gold as well, and a fairly educated populous.

The treaty of Versailles where Germany had to pay war repercussions was written the Dulles bros. where did they go again ? Oh yes USA.

Wed, 02/04/2015 - 05:09 | 5742343 cossack55
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Uh...regarding the Dulles bros, you may have your world wars confused.

Wed, 02/04/2015 - 00:28 | 5741999 ThirteenthFloor
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First the Greek and Russian languages are more closely related. The Euro government is so stupid and bad anything is better. And as an "educated" well travelled individual (40+ countries) I would prefer Putin group to the former Goldman Sachs banker trash running EU any day.

Wed, 02/04/2015 - 17:37 | 5744668 nuke ISIS now
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Gilnut its not what Tyler "believes", but rather intentional Russian propaganda...

 

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It turns out the founder of my favourite economic blog Zero Hedge 
is a Bulgarian fella by the name of Daniel Ivandjiiski posting as Tyler Durden
who was banned for inside trading only to expose Goldman Sachs dodgy dealing too.

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This partly of explains why he posted alpha's maps on the blog.

His father, Krassimir Ivandjiiski, is a writer and editor at Bulgaria Confidential
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Tue, 02/03/2015 - 22:06 | 5741512 TeamDepends
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Surely this surprises no one?

Tue, 02/03/2015 - 22:25 | 5741602 Creepy A. Cracker
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Don't call me Shirley.

Tue, 02/03/2015 - 22:50 | 5741690 TeamDepends
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We will do so as long as you claim that that whole bifurcation never happened. Dudes, during that brief chaotic moment, we had eight hands!

Tue, 02/03/2015 - 22:53 | 5741701 SystemicSarcasm
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You can call me Susan if it makes you happy

Tue, 02/03/2015 - 23:07 | 5741753 Bangalore Torpedo
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And now...I'm gonna spank your ass "Susan".

 

Yep, happy now!

Tue, 02/03/2015 - 23:16 | 5741778 TeamDepends
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Thank you sir, may Susan have another?

Tue, 02/03/2015 - 22:11 | 5741529 NoDebt
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Irrelevant.  Obamacare was NEVER supported by a majority of the US population.  Not when it was being debated, not when it was enacted and certainly not now that the full horror is coming on display.  Yet here it is.

Governments don't give a shit about what their population thinks.  Governments do what is in the best interest of government.  That's why the less there is of it, the better.  

Tue, 02/03/2015 - 22:47 | 5741683 a growing concern
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Governments can go fuck themselves. - Paul Revere

Tue, 02/03/2015 - 22:15 | 5741547 Bangalore Torpedo
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This is priceless.  Of course they do!  They have NEVER EXPERIENCED RUSSIAN LEADERSHIP.

 

It's nice to see unadulterated proof every now and then that people are just fuckkin stupid!

Tue, 02/03/2015 - 22:20 | 5741579 Bunga Bunga
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Right, but there much stronger historical, religious and cultural ties to Russia than to the West.

Tue, 02/03/2015 - 23:07 | 5741749 Bangalore Torpedo
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If that includes Greece imprisoning their citizens in an Archipelago of Gulags then by all means you are correct.  Eastern Orthodox menas NOTHING under that context.

Wed, 02/04/2015 - 00:15 | 5741971 Sandmann
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They lived under Ottoman Turks for centuries and under US -backed military junta

Wed, 02/04/2015 - 09:20 | 5742587 Lea
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Bangalore Torpedo quote, "This is priceless.  Of course they do!  They have NEVER EXPERIENCED RUSSIAN LEADERSHIP."

Whereas you have, of course?

Funny, I have friends in Russia who are quite happy, despite the Western-inflicted sanctions. Mind you, they are probably part of the conspiracy cabal (85% of the population) that supports Putin.

Tue, 02/03/2015 - 22:24 | 5741599 Creepy A. Cracker
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Cool.  The dreaded double post hits the BIG TIME!  Double article post!...

Tue, 02/03/2015 - 22:31 | 5741623 JR
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These Greeks are desperate for leadership. They are being squeezed, cheated and robbed. And they want something different. And if Tsipras doesn’t deliver it; they’ll find someone who will.

The Greeks didn’t go out and vote for a Communist atheist; they went out and voted for relief. And they are probably going to get it.  

If the Establishment wants to hang on with this ruse until Spain’s Podemos is elected, then Jack Burton is right, it may force a split in the Eurozone … Let’s just say, if Tsipras is a player in the system, then they certainly made a mistake by allowing him in and giving him support, because he is creating a problem for the EZ.

Spain is a huge economy and is a real danger to the EZ.  And its opposition to the bailout program’s austerities could be a real danger to the EZ. It costs the bankers a lot to keep Spain alive in the EZ and a lot of Spaniards are not doing well which gives the left-wing organizers an appeal.

All I know is, the best to happen for all of us would be the breakup of the EU, because it is the stepping stone to world government. Here are three comments I picked up just this week indicative of how many moderns feel about banker tyranny:

na pe

+1

   

I live in America where banks robbed the people for billions of dollars and then forced the government to pay them even more. I am not a leftist but a realist. Why should one class of people be able to commit a crime that anyone else would sit in prison for? Why is it legal for them to gamble with other people's money on the stock markets? If you're concerned about tax evasion, you ought to be focusing on huge international corporations and their tendency to evade taxes through tax shelters. The victims are the people, not the banks.

codenamenel

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why don’t we just go for the whole African continent, they’ve suffered at the Hands of the world Bank and IMF for long enough too, having to export so much of the food they grow just to service the interest on their loans they can’t afford to eat

 

codenamenel

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More than 100 senior bank executives at the Royal Bank of Scotland were paid more than £1 million in late 2010 and total bonus payouts reached nearly £1 billion – even though the bailed-out bank reported losses of £1.1 billion for 2010. Unions were baffled that any bankers were getting bonuses, considering the bank is owned by the taxpayer. The 2010 figure was an improvement on the loss of £3.6 billion in 2009 and the record-breaking £24bn loss in 2008. The bonuses for staff in 2010 topped £950 million. The CEO Stephen Hester got £8 million in payments for the year.

Tue, 02/03/2015 - 22:56 | 5741715 nmewn
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So I was censored?

Tue, 02/03/2015 - 23:04 | 5741744 Bangalore Torpedo
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"We" censored some folks ;-)

Tue, 02/03/2015 - 22:59 | 5741722 Dexter Morgan
Tue, 02/03/2015 - 23:10 | 5741758 Bangalore Torpedo
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We Greased some folks...

Wed, 02/04/2015 - 01:33 | 5742100 indaknow
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More Greeks Approve Of Russia's Leadership Than Europe's

Not surprising seeing as most other Europeans do too.

Wed, 02/04/2015 - 01:43 | 5742130 firefightergr
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Average Greek knows that our country has faced only disaster throughout history from our western alies, religious ties with Russia are  important.

Wed, 02/04/2015 - 04:08 | 5742255 onmail
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Russia (Putin) has a big potential to be the top world leader. They are conservative and prefer traditional values (opposite to the erstwhile Soviet era , they have realized their mistakes). Russia/Putin can even lead the the whole world into a new era of economic development & prosperity , a new monetary system and a new world order using BRICKS/Asian/African countries based on respect to each other , opposite to the exploitative western model (we get rich , you get poorer). But Russia/BRICKS needs to do few important things :

(A) Commercial / Business 

(1) West has built its empire based on the micro-processor which control all systems , Russia/China/BRICKS should develop its own micro-processosrs from grounds up and fabricate own chips state of art at 10 nm level or lower for business. These microprocessors which further control actuators.  

(2) Build peta class or better(Exa) super computers with own micro procs

(3) Develop own operating systems & office applications(like word, excel etc)  from grounds up to prevent hacking by west because all western s/w have loop holes/back doors to see what you are doing . Today west knows even what prices you are bidding at for contracts , by hacking documents/OS.

(4) Develop its own  digital communications/ Internet which is encrypted 20000 bits which west cannot crack with its supercomputers.

(5) A new own SWIFT like monetory transfer system

(6) New own credit/debit card system

(7) Develop quantum computers & quantum/ locked pair optical commmunications (to prevent hacking)

(8) Embed microprocessors everywhere in all kind of electronics and make computing easier for everyone even for a child using Raspberry Pi / Arduino like micro-procs boards to unleash creative minds right from early schools . Children should know how to build robots as easy as assembling toys.

(9) Mass produce Robots . Use Robots everywhere  .  Let all factories produce products & food in farms using robotized machinery. Human beings should be used only in design of robots , technology, managing business etc only for intellectual activities. As a new industrial revolution 3D printing is to be used for kinds of production so that any equipment , tool, machine, chip, computer and even food can be produced with 3D printing anywhere in member states. Essential 3D printing designs to be available to all members. The 3D printed parts to be assembled by robots. All menial, labor , dirty, worker class work be given to robots only as a celebration & respect of human humanity. 

(10) Human beings need not have employment at all since all work will be done by robots . The state shall provide free money for education, food , public transport etc. Those interested in intellectual activities may join for employment (as in 9 above) and working hours be reduced to only 4 hour/day    and 6 shifts per 24 hrs (so it can generate more emloyment) .

(11) Human population be kept in check by incentives for not producing . A density of population can be worked out based upon availability of food / clothing / housing. High density population can be allowed to migrate to low dense areas of world easily. 

(12) No visa system , all people to be able to migrate/travel to any area of the world.

(13) Own Industrial automation SCADA  (similar to Siemens SCADA) software considering that west has already hacked Siemens SCADA & released stuxnet. These must have encrypted 20000 bit operations.

(14) Own Business system software such as SAP , again heavily encrypted 20000 bits or more.

(B) Social Systems 

(15) Religion : It is to be moderated , the religious texts which promote violence , sex abuse, pedophilia etc are to be censored and blocked . Only those scriptures which promote peace , harmony, respect, cooperation & compassion are to be allowed fully and without restrictions. This is because religion works as a o/s for human mind.

(16) Jails are to be banned to respect for  human life. Criminals are to be kept in reform centers (like schools / colleges) where they will learn how to change attitudes, desires, emotions using proven techniques of meditation/zen/prayers so that they respect higher human values. Many meditation courses have proven success in many jails. Here modern technology can help. Immersive video games (like Elder Scrolls/Postal ) can be designed in which these criminals can roam free , participate and work together and while they do so their improvement will be evaluated by the game software where they earn points and they should be able to redeem game points with better facilities/food/fun/perks. 

(17) As a lesson learnt from Soviet Union/Karl Marx ,  human being are not to be considerd merely bellies nor only workers. Human being  is primarily a spiritual being who has infinite potential. When developed fully , human conscousness can even become univeral superconciousness which can do miraculous acts , know anything , have superhuman capabilities. These have been shown in past by great beings by reaching trance states. Even now  systems, methods & processes exist which can make capable people achieve this and the State should primarily support this as the supreme goal of human society. Therefore the degraded money based western materialism (& pleasurism) is to be banished and discouraged.  

(18) In order to achieve above (at 17) monastic systems are to be supported, monasteries to be built & supported by state. Monks & nuns are to be provided for , for their basic needs . Their abilities and progress are to be monitored from their attitudes , behaviours and also from  the ability to remain in trance states & super human feats considering all these possible. It is to be recognised that monks can generate bliss, power, awakening within the confines of their Spine & Brain (which is THE magic wand) by meditation alongwith celibacy. 

(19) Education : In addition to existing , It needs to have 2 more components (a) Educative video games which evaluate behavior and also modify for betterment , teaches law , morality , business etc using game quests by doing activities within the Virtual reality  (b) Meditation : All good meditation methods should be taught with the points as in (17) & (18) . Those students who wish to join monastic life should be encouraged so that they can become better & superhumans.

(c) Defense Systems 

(20) The immoral west full of porn , violence, exploitation etc will always attack as did before as in times of sea piracy/colonialism (promoted by state) to capture resources / slavery, therefore defense should be strenghtened and all types of latest weaponary should be evolved & deployed but to be used only as a last resort. All weapons should be smart with microprocessors 

(21) BRICKS has the largest pool of brains which can develop new IT & Electronics , it needs to be harnessed.

(22) Optical computing & optical networks to be evolved , the fly by wire aircrafts & missiles should be optically networked to protect from EMP by western nuclear devices.

(23) All bombs should be smart, even mortars should be smart for enemy identification , guidance & homing . A smart mortar with laser homing camera , microprocessor & adjustable fins can be very deadly as chances of miss will be low. In addition , all air based bombs should be smart . All aircrafts to be drone based , no humans are required for these now . All missiles (ground to ground, air to ground, ground to air etc)  should be cruise missiles because west can calculate trajectories of ballastic missiles whereas cruise missiles can evade . 

(24) Ray Guns :  These are easy to build now . Building a Maser (Microwave laser)  is so easy . A powerful microwave laser can fry anyone from miles . Imagine the microwave machine used in the homes when converted to a laser beam with 10 to 100 times capacity. 

(20) Space defenses : Masers & ray guns to knock out western satellites & assets.

(d) Public Morality 

(21) Corruption from govt offices to be eliminated by developing morality in education and using all traceable digital transactions  . 

Wed, 02/04/2015 - 04:14 | 5742274 basho
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very thought provoking.

it's a big order to fill.

thanks for taking the time and effort to post this. :)

Wed, 02/04/2015 - 04:29 | 5742294 researchfix
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I am sure, the poll would show the same results even in Germany.

And that may not be because Russia is so lovable.

It is because EU showed her ugly face.

Wed, 02/04/2015 - 08:01 | 5742492 Wolferl
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Nope. Approval rate for Merkel 70% to 80% percent in Germany in polls

Wed, 02/04/2015 - 08:58 | 5742566 researchfix
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Polls fixed by the lying MSM. They are in bed with Angela.

Wed, 02/04/2015 - 10:45 | 5742851 Lea
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Wolferl
"Nope. Approval rate for Merkel 70% to 80% percent in Germany in polls"

The Germans have stopped reading, let alone believing their MSM, Udo Ulfkotte's book is a bestseller, the Germans can't get their gold back, they hate the alphabet soups agencies surveillance, but Merkel still stands at 70%?
Really?

Come on.

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