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CME Hikes Silver, Brent, RBOB Margins

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In case algos still haven't gotten the message to jump all aboard into the S&P, here comes the CME with a gntle nudge in the form of 90 pages of margin hikes including Brent, RBOB and, just in case there is still anyone who wishes to trade paper precious metals against the BIS, silver. In fact, at first glance it appears the only future  whose margin was not hiked was stocks: apparently stocks are never volatile enough for a margin hike.

 

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Thu, 02/05/2015 - 18:11 | 5749395 quasimodo
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Thank you sir can I have another?!

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 18:16 | 5749422 CClarity
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Must. Move. All Sheeple investments into equities. Now. And Forever.     To infinity!

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 18:21 | 5749436 SRSrocco
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Seems as if someone wants the price of oil to drop into the $30 level.  This will do wonders on the already weak U.S. Shale Oil Industry.  Furthermore, the U.S. moves closer to collapse due to a falling EROI - Energy Returned On Invested:

DECLINE OF THE U.S. EMPIRE: Due To The Worst Oil Productivity In The World

http://srsroccoreport.com/decline-of-the-u-s-empire-due-to-the-worst-oil-productivity-in-the-world/decline-of-the-u-s-empire-due-to-the-worst-oil-productivity-in-the-world/

 

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 18:59 | 5749606 Lavoisier
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SRSrocco, would you have any idea about how much American junk silver still survives in hoards, and was not melted?

Did you ever see some pointer to an estimative?

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 20:44 | 5749947 Zero_Head
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I'd love to see  $15 or $16 soon. Today I was happy to see the price fall. Strange lot we 'extremists' are.

 

I am hooked on Sunshine! I even found a silver quarter AND a Buffalo nickel in my change at the grocery store today. The old folks are scraping up their 'change' in the Hoax and Chains Economy.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 18:23 | 5749431 FireBrander
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"Thank you sir can I have another?!"

Your mouth is already overflowing; swallow what you have and I'm sure Limbaugh will reload it for you.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 18:50 | 5749568 Bill of Rights
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Oh look a born and bred dope blaming the entertainer... No don't an advid listener.

How's that hope and change working out douche bag ...

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 18:58 | 5749603 Hitlery_4_Dictator
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Dude he freaking burned you, get over it. FireBrander, lol...so good

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 20:49 | 5749961 Deathrips
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I will nominate you to the saftey front line..defending the bankers the day after the holiday. Whats your ISP address again? Seems you are willing to act a fool. Back it up bitch. I vote you to the front line.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4FdlNlWBKQ

 

Listen and read lyrics carefully.

 

RIPS

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 20:59 | 5749995 Hitlery_4_Dictator
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LOL I'm on your side. I like mocking retards like FireBrander.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 21:46 | 5750139 Hitlery_4_Dictator
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Taking my sarc hat off for a moment...Dude, I think you and I would agree on most everything. I love Metallica, teh anti-war message in this song is good.  I know what's going on inside and out like everyone in here....I am on your side, and acting a fool is good for the soul sometimes...

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 18:51 | 5749571 Hitlery_4_Dictator
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HAHAHA FireBrander - GOOD ONE!  I do have it on good authority that everyone on here tunes in to Limbaugh's show daily. I'm glad you called them all out!  I've tried to no avial to get them to watch better programming on CNN andfMSNBC, but to no avial.  You are a funny dude.  

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 20:46 | 5749951 Zero_Head
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Ben FINKENBINDER???? Is that you?

 

Ben FinkenBinder is Obama's 19th hole.....

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 18:12 | 5749399 Doubleguns
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Bastards!!!!

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 18:15 | 5749415 Automatic Choke
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it is so comforting to know that they are looking out for our safety.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 20:06 | 5749825 American Liberal
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I am very encouraged by this move. It is wrong that speculators try to move prices on industrial raw materials and other necessities just to line their own pocket. We need more aggressive oversight to curb rampant speculation as it only leads to malinvestment and higher prices for consumers.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 18:21 | 5749417 FireBrander
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Torch those fuken gold hoarders...I love the smell of burnt Prepper in the morning.

 

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 18:39 | 5749527 Stoploss
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Margin hikes have an inverse effect as they expose the true indications of supply disruption.

How fortunate we are to have your expertise to guide us through.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 18:49 | 5749536 Hitlery_4_Dictator
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FireBrander guy gets it....everything is great and "preppers" are stupid. There was a time when being a "prepper" was just called being prepared. We no longer need to be prepared because the government has our back. They proved it when Katrina happened. In fact it is now considered dumb to be prepraed and rightly so, why would anyone need to with this new age of entlightement. But these evil American hating preppers have taken it to a whole new level, it's almost like they want society to go down. I hope I never have to meet a prepper if things ever do go south (which they won't because Obama fixed everything), because they will shoot first and ask questions later. Good thing the economy is amazing and there is zero chance of that happening. God bless you FireBrander!  To hell with these evil america hating preppers!! Being prepared is so 1950's! FireBrander you are an amazing inspiration in this dark website. You have opened many eyes with your wit and wisdom. I look forward to hearing much more from you in the future!

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 19:29 | 5749703 stant
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Your my latest hero h4d

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 20:51 | 5749967 Deathrips
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I dont think its MDB satire..hes seriously insane.

 

Feed trolls at your own risk.

 

RIPS

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 21:01 | 5749997 Hitlery_4_Dictator
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I've been called worse.  The Centeral Banks have taken me to the edge and back, no doubt about it. 

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 19:38 | 5749733 SILVERGEDDON
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Firebrander can't tell the difference between the pepper and the fly shit. 

Enjoy your non spicy peppered government internment camp meal, dipshit.  

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 20:00 | 5749810 Hitlery_4_Dictator
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LOL obvioulsy I was mocking the shit out of FireBrander.  

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 18:25 | 5749454 ForWhomTheTollBuilds
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"apparently stocks are never volatile enough for a margin hike"

 

Probably a wise business move since everyone knows the moment stocks break to the downside, the market will be declared irrational and shut down anyway.  So the longs make money, the shorts get burned and when shit gets out of hand, its all turned off and the exchange has no problem.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 18:32 | 5749485 pickatheweek
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Company told me I have until June to liquidate my leveraged gold ETF from the SD portion of my 401k-anyone else heard of this?

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 18:44 | 5749538 prefan4200
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I never heard of a company allowing its employees the choice to invest through their 401k in something as "inherently risky" as a leveraged gold ETF.  And of course, now your company won't let you do it either.  Your company, like most companies, is probably just  trying to "protect" you from such obviously "risk-laden" investment choices as leveraged gold ETF's. 

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 18:36 | 5749507 AL_SWEARENGEN
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CME COCKSUKERS!!  These bastards deserve a Silver bullet for all their fraudulant actions.  http://www.zerohedge.com/article/cme-margin-hike-4th-and-5th-charting-pa...

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 18:58 | 5749601 Bay of Pigs
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Haven't see you post in ages. Hope you are doing well bro...

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 18:59 | 5749545 NotApplicable
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Silly Tyler! A margin hike for stawks would be the mother of all volatility.

Can't have that now, can we?

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 18:51 | 5749563 Conax
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They live in fear of people catching on to their silver racket. 

 

Bullish, bitchez.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 20:12 | 5749847 American Liberal
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There is no racket. That is a figment of the imagination of some fringe bloggers. What we know is that the largest banks in the US are holding the line against speculators who threaten our economy. It only makes sense to minimize price hikes and volatility in essential commodities like silver.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 20:48 | 5749957 Zero_Head
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a fool, a liar or a lying fool....one of the three

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 18:51 | 5749572 ronron
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were they raising margins weekly just before silver shot to 50 bucks?

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 19:41 | 5749741 NidStyles
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Nope.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 20:01 | 5749811 ronron
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link?

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 20:09 | 5749835 ronron
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so no link? try yahoo. you'll fit right in.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 19:18 | 5749649 Quinvarius
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It really worries me that they give a shit about silver at $18.  Why?  It is like shooting a fly with a howitzer.  Who the Hell cares?  Is it that bad?  Is someone that bad off being short at $18?  I smell desperation. Obviously, they think it is going higher and they don't want to pay out.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 19:36 | 5749723 spinone
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We can try to read the tea leaves.  But we'll never know for sure.  Stocks and bonds are a bad buy right now.  Silver below $20 is a good buy, so I'll buy it as long as they keep paying me in green paper, and someone will exchange 20 of those for an ounce of silver.

Honestly, physical silver and gold are the only investment I can understand anymore. 70% of trades are computers trading stocks in milliseconds, CAPE is an all time high, bonds are nuts because governments are manipulating interest rates to zero, futures and ETFs are baffling.  Growth prospects are poor.  Au and Ag are good enough for me.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 20:10 | 5749841 American Liberal
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I take this as a very positive sign that our regulators have decided enough is enough, and they are ready to make an example out of traders that take exorbitant risks that could spill over into the broader markets. We've seen a recent spike in volatitility that is very concerning, so I hope we see more of this type of action.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 21:07 | 5750017 Conax
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Lulz!

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 21:20 | 5750039 TrulyStupid
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Dont bogart that joint...

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 19:55 | 5749794 monopoly
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Looks like Silver is going to catch when hell of a bid soon. These fuckers will not be able to stop this E ride. Tick Tock!

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 22:35 | 5750281 bluskyes
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I dont give a flying fuck any more.

Lower margins: Lemings speculate, and it is easy to acquire physical.

Higher margins: Squeezes the speculator's nuts, forces liquidation of paper positions, and helps me buy. cheap.

 

btw... the last time they came out hot, and heavy with this shit, was when silver was reacing $50. Why is 18 so bad now?

 

Maybe Nelson Hunt's ghost roams the comex pits at night.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 23:01 | 5750373 Lazane
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Silver rising to levels reflective of its of true value in the Creation can only be shepherded in by free markets, which might also seem for preppers to be something approaching total conscienceness, a level I may not see until my mortal life on earth has concluded and I have embarked on the Creators ascension plan.

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