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Russia Deploys Nuclear ICBM Launchers On Combat Patrol
Perhaps it is a coincidence that a day before John Kerry's arrival in Kiev (a visit which "coincided" with a 35% devaluation of the local currency) where among other things the US statesman discussed the possibility of official (as opposed to unofficial) deliveries of US "lethal support" to the civil war torn and now hyperinflation country, that Russia decided to put its nuclear ICBMs on combat patrol missions in various Russian regions. Specifically, according to Tass, "About 700 units of military equipment, including launchers are deployed in the positioning areas in the Tver, Ivanovo, Kirov, Irkutsk regions, as well as in Altai Territory and the Mari El republic."
More:
The Topol, Topol-M and Yars mobile ballistic missile launchers have been put on combat patrol mission in six Russian regions, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman for Strategic Missile Forces (RVSN) Colonel Igor Yegorov said on Wednesday.
"The Topol, Topol-M and Yars mobile launchers are drilling combat duty tasks in six regions of the country with extended combat patrolling time. About 700 units of military equipment, including launchers are deployed in the positioning areas in the Tver, Ivanovo, Kirov, Irkutsk regions, as well as in Altai Territory and the Mari El republic," Yegorov said.
According to him, the time of winter combat patrolling has been extended to nearly a month this year. "This means that each missile regiment will spend about 60 days per year on combat patrolling routes," he said.
Topol is a ground-based mobile strategic intercontinental ballistic missile system. The Topol-M ICBM system belongs to the fifth generation of strategic missiles. The three-stage solid-propelled single warhead missile has a silo and mobile version. Yars is a solid-propelled mobile and silo-based intercontinental ballistic missile with multiple warhead.
Now all that is needed is for Emmett Fitz-Hume and Austin Millbarge to show up and to confirm the old saying that "a weapon unused is a useless weapon", especially if said weapon belongs to Northrop Grumman, Lockheed or General Dynamics.
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Que the launch on UncleSam this year
I guess I picked the wrong morning to stop drinking!
Cheers!
Vladimir Itchiocrotchi ride multiple warhead road missle
Barry Obongobitchi ride blue girlie bike.
That is not going to solve the problem for Russians.
Looks like WWIII? Nah! Can't Be. What's on TV tonight? Brian Williams?
Your comment sounded like concern for the Russian citizens? Living. Raising families. Going to work etc.??
Well it never is about the "little people" who get incinerated now is it? That is just "unfortunate collateral damage, lives lost during a conflict that we all agree, was unavoidable....................."
let's hope the 1960's lugnuts on those things still hold. Or a banana in the tailpipe should do it. Or a strong breeze.
thees eez joak on qualeetee of rashan equeeepment.
I'm just hoping that the warheads are past their "best before date" in the event that they are launched to preempt our own preemptive attack.
My uncle worked at Los Alamos, he insists that even if the nukes are functional, the odds of firing them off completely as planned are right around 60-70%. Back then it was about 30%. He said "you don't take a scientific instrument with thousandth of an inch tolerances that can irradiate a city and give it to 2 high school dropouts and a history major". I always liked his humor.
A 60-70% survival rate can still ruin your day. The launchers look like they would fail a steroids test.
preempt our own preemptive attack.
I like that. It's like the Bush Doctrine on steroids.
Yes those launchers do have that have that East German swimteam vibe to em, eh? Reminds me of the Carlin bit about how all weapons look like dicks and war is just a prick waving contest, but if that was true Africa would rule the world.
Bullish for stocks whether they get used OR not!
Love it, Soulfinger (Spies Like Us) www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIgBoMWocYc
So if they fire 1000 nuclear warheads at us, only 300 will make it here. I feel much better now.
Yeah, but you're using a phony-baloney Mexican accent.
"...Well it never is about the "little people" who get incinerated now is it? That is just "unfortunate collateral damage, lives lost during a conflict that we all agree, was unavoidable..."
Looks like Kerry, Yats and Porky have gone full-retard to give the U.S. an excuse to invade Ukraine and/or otherwise stir shit up with Russia if this turns out to be true. More unavoidable little people losses, I guess:
From South Front and Kazzura
Ukraine video updates: DPR says Ukraine planning terror attack in Debaltsevo
"...In the clip below, DPR Deputy of Defense Eduard Basurin announces plans for a Ukrainian 'false flag' in the region of Debaltsevo sometime in the next few days, to coincide with the Munich Security Conference on 6-8 February (this weekend)..."
"[eng subs] Ukraine prepares a terrorist attack in Debaltsevo"
[Transcript of eng subs follows verbatum]
Subbed video: http://youtu.be/WOFO9ep4mik
Mossad really does have the U.S. State Department trained well. Yats and Porky don't need training - they're probably on the payroll.
Cause Putin has Asperger's Syndrome:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/02/04/putin-aspergers-s...
Parents with children who have Aspergers can now tell them they can grow up and become a world leader like Putin.
#AngloZionistmediaPRfail
What's with the down arrows?
I can't make this shit up!
Must be a wave of pro-Putin monkeys rolling through.
seems to be the state of ZH these days....
Is it pro Putin or is it anti Obama? So Putin is on the red team now?
Why are they mutally exclusive? What if you don't like either?
All time highs near again
Oh and
We launched some folks
Anti-Obama?! Please.
Let me be perfectly clear. We can all agree that I have been among the greatest of US Presidents. No one would dispute that. Well, they wouldn't do it using a cell phone. Or land-line. Or the internet.
O doesnt want putin to interfere with his Mbrotherhood agenda for MENA thus O is being a good sleeper cell.
To many Hedgers Putin appears to be the only thing standing in the way of the neolib/neocon NWO of the financial elite in their stuggle against the great unwashed masses for global domination of everyone and everything until the end of time. (It's for their kids after all.)
They are probably right although I see the Greeks seem to be helping out lately....
hmmm... death by eletrocution or death by hanging... choices, choices. so hard to pick.
Hooker with AIDS vs. Hooker with Hepatitis.
Putin has never done anything to most of us. Can the same be said about the cocksucking jackals in Washington DC and Wall Street?
Imo, their is no 'white wizard' on this planet as far as im concerned... they are all puppets under the 'All Seeing Eye'
Because if we wanted mindless party-line drivel, we know what sites to go to for that.
Fuck you.
Then go there
No need. You brought it here. And the scratched your head about why you're getting down arrows.
Well Head, you just do not seem to be maintaining the GPA that is expected from participants in this fine program......................
OR:
A wellhead is the component at the surface of an oil or gas well that provides the structural and pressure-containing interface for the drilling and production equipment.
In a world of 24/7 propoganda, the truth is often in plain sight - drowned in a sea of "noise."
Who the hell knows who has what. Reality is that everyone is on a "spectrum" somewhere. "Normal" being a relative term. And, I think it is fairly well demonstrated that in our times most who rise to supreme politcal power are in fact quite different than the general population. High percentage of sociopaths, narcissists, etc.
They just wiped put a city of one million.
"Mauripol is next" apparently.
Why bother with the nukes when your psycho conventional means are doing so well?
(You watch too much Fox news)
First, the city you probably mean is not in Mauretania. It is called "Mariupol"
Second, there is no city of one million "wiped". What exactly do you refer to?
Third, this area of Ukraine is inhabited predominantly by Russians, just like DPR, LPR, Bessarabia, Dombass
Fourth, these Russians are pissed of that the president they elected democratically got ousted un-demoratically (and instead of waiting to get genocided by the Kiev Nazis prefer taking things in their own hands)
Fifiz, the battle started with the attack by the "forces" of the national Ukrainian army
In view of the source of the "Aspergers" allegation - seems we now consider "American Pravda" (USA Today) as the source of impeccably honest, impartial reportage!
My, how the "West" has fallen . . . . . . :-)
+1000
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hopefully soon
country there needs leadership
more like... needs an enema. I'm talking a full power wash.
Asperger's?
More like stupid name-calling to me.
It's called propaganda.....as it came from the Pentagon (Pentagram)
So Pentagon's approach to Russia now is Putin is an Aspie. There you go, your tax dollars at work.
They've been trying to pin the "lunatic" button on Putin for a while now, ostensibly so they will have some post ad hoc basis of justification for <<ahem>> eliminating him with prejudice sometime within the next several months.
“What labels me, negates me.”
--Soren Kierkegaard
(Edit: yeah I'm surprised too no more got this: basic psy-ops along the the lines of "throw enough shit...") I hope to fuck that the ZH crowd is astute enough to pick up on it and flip it on its head.
@ headcrapper
you are truly a fucktard, LOOK AT THE SOURCE>
Pentagon think..now that is an oxy for a moron
One goat to another: "Why do those guys from the Pentagon keep staring at us?"
"Cause Putin has Asperger's Syndrome"
I can hardly wait to see what the Russian response to this is going to be. "Our own psychiatric community has determined that Obama is a ___, which explains his ___."
Oh yeah, this is going to be fun to watch, like a game of "Mad Libs" being played by a bunch of Tourette's patients. Need to make sure I'm stocked up on popcorn.
Well, at least it's not Headbanger Syndrome or Obummer's Assburner Syndrome.
Careful western media, you will be looked at as a bad cartoon soon.
Maybe he doesn't like prolonged Eye Contact with strangers.
I'm from an Asian Culture, where eye contact (with the elder, senior ranked, and stranger) isn't popular.
Also, we've Propaganda Spin-Dweebs being a bit too eager in the Linked Articles, which imply that
they may be too biased based on their agenda.
Of course, the chance to belittle/"exaggerate any undesireable characteristics of" someone Standing Tall against the Tide - tend to be part of the Hegemon's M.O.
Russia has WMD, we need to do a pre-emptive strike
What do you mean "we"?
You are a slave and a not too bright one either
It's the same "we" as when people talk about their sports teams. "We" won!
I suspect / hope you're being sarcastic, seeing that we go after everyone with WMDs who not under our thumb or to our liking.
When can I spend that peace dividend?
So, we're lookin' at some nukey-nukey from Putin?
Yawn. Time for a new body count on NFL wives beaten. Hey! They find that missing plane yet?
Why don't many of you above me start recognizing sarcasm when you read it. Even if poorly done most of you should know better than to burp out automatic replies.. Non native english readers exempt you other guys settle down, stop looking for ways to be offended, damn pussies.. Red arrow that bitchez..
Why not hammer your nutsack instead?
LOL, .......... its later, still laughing
Non-Native English Readers? Surly there is an app for that!?// Har har !
All the while the U.S. is in firm control of the situation in Ukraine. This short exchange between Kerry and "Amb" Pyatt got accidentally recorded and subsequently leaked from Kerry's visit in Kiev:
Pyatt: "Got some Cookies? We are running out of support of the locals."
Kerry: "No I brought only weapons. Lots of weapons. Can't Porky provide some Chocolate?"
Pyatt: "No, all production goes to Russia. The only factory that is fully functional is in Russia."
Kerry: "Well, actually we don't need the support of these useful idiots any longer. Keep these fools fighting in the east until this shitplace is completely destroyed. This will weaken the Russians".
Nuland: "Ok, fuck the EU".
Kerry: "What?"
Pyatt to Kerry: "Ignore this cunt, Sir". To Nuland: "Shut up!"
We should strike first. They think they are so smart.
When the bear starts snarling, it really is best to retreat, if at all possible, not poke
it again.
No I agree this shit is crazy, but I think it's all by design. I think war is thier only solution.
Do you not find the missle phallic?
War turns me on and makes me feel safe.
You are one silly bastard. I like that...
If war is the only option, then I'd rather have a nice, quaint civil war where it is brother against brother instead of a nuclear war. At least the survivors of a civil war wouldn't have to worry about the uptake of radioisotopes by their crops. And if war isn't their only option, they sure are doing a bangup job of stumbling towards one.
Note to the NSA, DOD, CIA and other fucks running this shitshow: Nuclear war is bad for national security. If the ICBMs fly and I survive, I will hold you fucks just as responsible as the fuckers in Russia who push the button, regardless of who launches first. You fucks are playing with fire.
Deploying deterrence is not hard.
A nuclear war over the correct border of Ukraine?
Who will you be nuking? Everyone?
"You fucks are playing with fire."
Yes they are. PCR knows this... Ron Paul knows this... heck even Herny Kissinger knows this.
Anyway we hear they have a cunning plan so let's all stay tuned and cheer for the Nazis we are arming and training for war because once the shooting starts anyone rooting against the Nazis (and eventually NATO) is a terrorist.
The Brains Trust in DC think they can sucker Russia into a war with Europe. Russia and Putin know that this is a classic case of "let's you and him fight" from the US, so they will ignore Europe (after turning off the gas) and use its real weapons to target the organ grinder rather than the monkey. Odds on it will be two sunrises in one day in London, New York, Washington and Tel Aviv.
Well, they are not going to voluntarily consent to a debt re-set. Now WAR! War is good! We Love War. We are a war like people.
Carlin on War https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgAVpPNusTs
When you hear popping teeth and then the ears go back...
Raise my .338, put the aimpoint dot under his chin.. Seriously, just don't fuck with bears..
Apparently, all species of bear do the teeth-popping, jaw-snapping thing when they get pissed. I was in a huckleberry patch a few years back when I heard ( but didn't see the animal) that particular sound about 15 or 20 yards away. It is an exceptionally unnerving sound, and my first response was to rapidly vacate the premises as quickly as possible.
It was a really nice huckleberry patch, and even though it was a Black bear, I didn't feel like fighting him/her for it.
If you want all US cities to burn, then go for it! The US-NeoCons really need to learm some stuff. Russia is NOT a third- world- country. You will llearn that lesson very soon...
Putin just letting Obama know what lies in the path ahead, should Obama keep walking along that path.
Obama got this. Putin is an amature. Sadly, I don't think Obama is calling the shots hre, if he were he'd a gone done it already.
Putin shirtless on a Thouroughbred wearing leopard skin tights. Obama in his mama jeans on girl's bike and a size 12 helmet.
LOL Such racist talk. This is demeaning on so many levels, you hate women, blacks and america.
Nope. Just black Ameerican women
lol
"Nope. Just black Ameerican women"
Now thats fucking funny there.....
Thanks I neede that!
Taking off my Sarc hat for a min....true story...I was at a Mortgage Cmpany signing some docs a few weeks ago. I started talking to the guy there about how Obama is over his head with Putin. Some fat black bitch from another office heard us and chimed in. "Oh hell naww, Putin better slow his roll, Obama got this." Exact words. This is the ignorance we are dealing with here in Amerika.
"I was at a Mortgage Cmpany signing some docs a few weeks ago"
Linda, is that you?
The sheeple in this country are BEYOND fucking scary!
They believe everthing the tv/alter tells them.
I never digraced the oath I took for My country,,,,,,but the fucking sheeple sure did!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Remember - unlike the press in hitlers Germany, that was beaten, jailed and murdered into being propagandists, the US media did it voluntarily, with great joy and fanfare!
Presstitutes!
maybe I need to try some SARC??
it took the aussies to expose this cfr liar.
not gonna happen here. mistake in recall my a$$.
http://mobile.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/nbc-nightly-news-anchor-brian-williams-caught-out-in-huge-lie/story-e6frfmyi-1227209211021
Well he does work for the slimeball Robertson family that owns NBC and Comcast and is well known for hiring family of politicians, best example being Chelsea Cunton. They grew their cable empire rather quickly with this game play, gaining cable territory by hiring family of local politicians at city halls that awarded the cable contracts. These are the folks adding real value to America and represented on Wall St and AIPAC.
Haven't you ever be advised by mommy and daddy to never speak of politics or religion in public?
Let me guess, when you do, it goes very badly, but you love that about it?
I always get a chuckle out of it....I like pwning people and them being confused about it
Well, he may not gots nothin', but his deep-in-the-heart-of-the-Congo old lady sho nuff does...
I'll take all the black women, under 20, but yeah, we need to get rid of all the black males ! ! ! !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MBaEEODzU0
"Putin shirtless on a Thouroughbred wearing leopard skin tights. With his finger on the button
Obama in his mama jeans on girl's bike and a size 12 helmet. With his finger on the button
What could possibly go wrong???
Meet Jack.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=07e_1381659538
In these trouble financial times, the US gov't has decided it is essential to reduce costs. The first step will be to simplify the Stars and Stripes. From now on, it will become the Star and Stripe, in two colors rather than three.
The former Russian leader warns that Moscow does not trust the West, and the West does not trust MoscowMikhail Gorbachev, the former Soviet leader, has warned that the world is at risk of a “nuclear war” because of the tensions between Russia and the West over Ukraine.
In an interview with the German magazine Spiegel, Mr Gorbachev said that if either side lost its nerve in the current stand-off, it could lead to nuclear war, and spoke of his fears that the world “will not survive the next few years”.
“I actually see all the signs of a new Cold War,” Mr Gorbachev said. “It could all blow up at any moment if we don’t take action. The loss of confidence is catastrophic. Moscow does not believe the West, and the West does not believe Moscow.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11338393/Crisis-...
NATO meeting in Brussels heightens danger of war with Russia
By Johannes Stern5 February 2015
NATO defense ministers are meeting in Brussels today to consolidate the military alliance against Russia, increasing the risk of a direct military confrontation between nuclear-armed powers.
NATO sources have revealed plans to establish a long-term presence in Eastern Europe, according to a report in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung (FAS). So-called NATO “Force Integration Units” will be established in Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Romania and Bulgaria. There are also plans to deploy such a unit in Hungary at a later time.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/02/05/nato-f05.html
So besides Berlin, Paris, Rome (Italy), London and Washington (DC)...what's the target list "for our heroic taking of the Crimea!"?
The WOPR of course...
But besides that too...
I won't believe it until I see it in a Youtube video!
Once again I have to get this off my chest:
Our "leaders" are completely insane, liars, thieves and totally off the reservation! I don't believe anything they tell us...
That is all...
More than worthy of repeating,
Glad to see you are catchin' up.
"Once again I have to get this off my chest:
Our "leaders" are completely insane, liars, thieves and totally off the reservation! I don't believe anything they tell us..."
You left out the part about them all being ZWO stooges, mascotts and puppets with blackmail cards ready to be pulled if they get any ideas of their own.
Another Fake Russian – NATO Military Standoff For The Military Complex
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Russia Like The U.S. Wants U.N. to Manage Internet Infrastructure
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1945 British National Archives Document Calls For New World Order Now
Russia Like The U.S. Wants U.N. to Manage Internet Infrastructure
Did the UN have ANYTHING worthwhile to do with building it and operating it fo the past 20 years?
But suddenly we need the UN to manage the whole fucking internet?
How about they don;t and we continue to let the private sector make jobs and commerce with a giant fucking ideological super parasite choking the shit out of it?
That would be Capitalism and we sure can't have that infecting Merikka now, can we?
Isn't that funny! All your links point to the same newworldorderg20.wordpress account.
Whoever owns that account must be suckin' yer dick.
Oh, it's you? Well, that proves it.
Troll
I don't often agree with Henry Kissinger but this time he is spot on when he says it's a big mistake for merika to increase the conflict in the Ukraine. He suggested merika, Russia and China need to overcome differences and "work together."
You tube has a good collection of his inteviews and speeches whether you agree with him or not it's very thought provoking.
Henry Kissinger is brilliant , but he is also a war criminal.
Cook his ass
"Henry Kissinger is brilliant , but he is also a war criminal"
The brilliant war criminals are the ones you really have to worry about.
He's also one of the ZWO Mac Daddies so he has above the law god on earth status.
Kissinger could walk around with severed heads hanging from his belt and the ZWO media would cheerlead for him.
35% devaluation ?
John can buy beer and hookers very cheap.
When have the Rusians not been moving around their mobile launchers? Looks like a special press release about nothing new.
No, come on drive-by fools, seriously - WHEN?
What's next? Pretend Russia never put a sub full of nukes to sea during the past ten years?
http://www.naval-technology.com/news/newsrussian-nuclear-submarine-sails...
Love the hook line at the bottom, namely;
i.e. give us billions and we promise to scare these away. Frankly, I'd not want to be in an LCS going up against one of these subs, but then again this huge sub type was never meant to operate on a shallow littoral, ... and mostly they won't.
Unless someone back channeled that the urchins and ogres under the Potomac were really losing it, then it does look like just more of the same... Strategic nuclear weapons on exercises all throughout Russia is nothing out of the ordinary. Less destructive Tactical nuclear weapons concentrated on Russia's NATO borders would be far more alarming.
Agreed, though I think we'd find they are there already in the same way B-61s are still in hardened aircraft shelters across Europe, about two hours from delivery.
Mobile truck mounted ICBMs were designed and built as a defense against First Strike attacks by Russia's potential enemies. Nuclear missile silos can be targeted, mobile trucks that change postion every night and go into cover by day are in no way a sure bet to be killed in a first strike.
This is "non-News" as Russia must and always does, exercise their mobile rocket forces. It is harmless and is carried out on their own soil. But it is meant as a reminder to the New World Order Elites that should the Neocons and Zionists in Washington push their luck too far, the world will end, and all the Zionists and Neocons will evaporate at the same rate as we citizens and taxpayers.
I grew up under this Cold War missile game.The kind both the USA and USSR considered their most important weapons, and both still do. Russia has spent big to launch new Fleet Ballistic Missile Submarines, and invested in Attack Subs and Surface ASW vessels to protect the waters their Missile Subs operate in.
We are back to 1975 with both sides on hair trigger nuclear alert with thusands of missiles ready to go in an instant. This is the wrold our elites have created for us, as I have hardly met any American or Russian who wants to live under this threat. It is our 1% who bring this to us, and give us no choice.
Hey, but we got the PeaceKeeper, unless Warren bought those trains too.
The Peacekeepers were decommissioned. We still have the Minute Man IIIs and the Trident II as two of the three legs of the nuclear triad. Even without the Peacekeepers, any one of the three parts is enough to knock the entire world back to the stone age.
Many people here like Element and Jack Burton know more about military hardware, strategies, etc than myself, but my assessment is that the situation is quite different now.
During the last cold war, MAD was somewhat in play although I think the situation was far more devious and complex than advertised. The west had the great lever of finance and a free society that was creating lots of wealth. The Soviets were at a great disadvantage with a weaker economy and a crappy society. The west benefited from time to build up further, while the Soviet side was not in a position for a win.
Now, the west has cut nuclear stockpiles and the economies around the world are on the rocks. Russia, as I understand it, has more nukes than the rest of the world combined. But they also know that NWO plans are very far advanced and they will be extinguished by that roller coaster if they succumb. Thus, I do not think all this posturing means nothing. My perception is that the world is closer to disaster than it was 40-50 years ago. None of the big players - west, Russia, China - is going to give in and I don't think detente can last for too many more years.
The difference between MAD in the cold war and MAD today is today it is defined in it's original context especially in the ussa.
In terms of active warheads, Russia does have more than the US, but not so many more st to give it any real advantage in a nuclear exchange. In terms of inactive warheads, that number is constantly changing, but many of them would require significant maintenance to bring back to ready status. We're decommissioning many of them, which is fine by me. At the height of the cold war, both sides had tens of thousands of warheads. Now we're down to a few thousand active warheads, and the Russians are in the same boat. Warheads cost a lot to maintain, and a few thousand is still more than enough to assure destruction of anybody.
As for MAD, I don't think that the assholes running this show have a clue as to what a nuclear bomb will really do. We wouldn't use the panzy devices like Fat Man and Little Boy these days either. Instead of 15 or 20kt, we would be using warheads more like 300kt-475kt. The Russians have upgraded their arsenal since the collapse of the USSR. It turns out that once you get to a certain point, twice the yield does not do twice the damage, but it costs at least twice as much to build and maintain. Going to smaller warheads is more cost effective and you can still do the same damage. That means no more 20MT monsters in the Russian missiles. They're down around 550kt and smaller now, with accuracy that the Russians claim is roughly on par with the US missiles. Go back and look at the films and pictures of Nagasaki and Hiroshima to put that into perspective.
All in all, it doesn't matter if our missiles are going to hit 50M closer to the target, it doesn't matter if the Russian warheads are on average 75kt bigger and it doesn't matter if the Russians have 1000 or 1500 more warheads deployed. Both sides would be incomprehensibly fucked once those things started flying.
At least I know where the targets are in my area and know what the prevailing winds typically do so that I have an idea of where not to be if it does happen. Kirtland AFB, which has the AF Research Labs, Sandia National Labs and the Kirtland Underground Munitions Storage Complex (lots of nukes in there) are the biggest ones. Then there is Los Alamos National Labs up north, and then Holloman AFB and Canon AFB and possibly the White Sands Missile Range. It would be somewhat ironic if the WSMR got hit, considering that is where the Trinity Site is.
Current yeids for nuclear weapons are measured in MT (megatons) versus KT (kilotons). The nuclear weapons used on Japan were 13-22kt, the current arsenal yeilds anywhere from 475kt for MIRVed payloads to 25-50MT region killers.
El Vaquero - What about MRVs? I heard Russia has them and the U.S. only has singles or doubles.
Both sides have them. IIRC, the Minuteman IIIs carry three warheads and, while deployed with 6 warheads, the Trident IIs can carry up to 12 or 14. The Russians have similar capacities on their missiles, though they're actively developing newer missiles and warheads and we're not, so they have more options.
Interesting -Thanks. I need to do some looking at the numbers sometime.
One factor that is said, but just as soon forgotten, is the secondary effects due to nuclear power plant failures. If there is any kind of big disruption (like war), the plants run out of backup power and many go Fukushima. Then the measure is not kT of yield, but tons of volatilized waste. Deadly stuff.
We don't have the multi-megaton bombs like we used to. Neither does Russia. The mainstay of the US arsenal is the W88 on the Trident IIs at 475kt and the W87s on the Minuteman IIIs at 300kts. We no longer have the large multimegaton bombs in active service, if at all. The B83 is the largest active bomb in the US arsenal at 1.2MT.
The largest the Soviets ever set off was the Tsar Bomba at 50MT, though it would have been 100MT had they used depleated urainium to clad the secondary and tertiary stages instead of lead. That bomb was so big that it didn't even fit inside the bomber, making it very impractical from a delivery standpoint. It was just the USSR making a point. Again, they have moved away from the large multimegaton devices themselves. The SS18s no longer are tipped with a single 20MT warhead. They are on their way to being decommissioned, but they're MIRVed with warheads in the hundreds of kilotons these days. There is no need to spend 10x as much for a single 20MT warhead when 3 500KT warheads will do the same amount of damage for much cheaper.
Look up the current arsenals of both countries. The designations and yields are anything but secret.
The B53 Y1 (9MT) was due for decomm in 2006-2007ish, but I'd heard that was put on hold. Was rumor, not sure either way. There's also a B53 Y2 that "fell off the books" with a yield of 9MT, no clear decomm date for that one.
Edit: I love in between 2 nuclear power stations, one located about 3 to 5 miles away as the crow flies. Yeild won't be an issue for me. :/
It will be an issue for me. I'm in the probably survive but not be very happy about it zone for 20mt, and in the "OH SHIT, time to bug out!" zone for 550 kt.
Mr.Vaquero you're partially wrong . I agree US don't posses MT nuclear warheads disassembly of the last type removed from service the B53 completed in 2006 . But still there are two nations who posses Mega Ton Nuclear warheads .
Russia probably maintains a small number ICBMs in high-yield single warhead versions. The People's Republic of China has one type of ICBM armed with high-yield warheads. Operational multimegaton weapons thus include:
Corrected your facts (y)
http://missilethreat.com/russia-pass-service-100-ton-ballistic-missile-sarmat/
The information war tends to obscure things.
One of two things is likely true, if the thing is actually built, either 1) it's the world's most expensive cod piece (if ever used) or 2) it is not actually intended to deliver ICMS to a country on another continent on planet Earth.
Redneck sorry for shattering your dreams .
Russia's 100 Ton Sarmat Missile To Enter Service In 2020, Test Launch In 2017 .
The Sarmat could deliver up to 10 heavy nuclear warheads or 15 medium warheads at targets up to 6,200 miles away, according to the Nuclear Threat Initiative.
The missile would carry the warheads into suborbital flight, at which point they would separate and hit independent targets.
The new intercontinental ballistic missile Sarmat would be capable of overcoming almost any missile defense system. Russia's new missile is a response to the American Prompt Global Strike.
The missile could deliver more than 15 medium warheads if it has a capacity of 10 tons - also called concentration risk. 10 tons of payload capacity is for bragging rights in the public press, not impressing nuclear counterparts (or something else.. perhaps evacuating Vlad and his buddies from Mount Yamantau like Dr. Evil in the video - there were several layers to the metaphor and joke) - you might as well slap a bunch of nuclear warheads on an Atlas V rocket and upgrade the steering. The liquid fuel should provide more thrust and maneuverability, but at 100 tons that fucker is chained to a silo thousands of miles away from its target providing a much larger interception window than sea or launched devices, and originating from a fixed and known launch site that is already targeted by the US for destruction in any first strike.
Firstly its launch site is not known to anyone outside Russia and who said it will remain fixed ? Mind you their missile shield is effective enough to shoot your icbms ." US targetting russia's nuclear site " . But the moment US launches its nukes to destroy those sites , do you expect russia to stand still ? They will fire those nukes well before usa nukes could reach boost phase .
You didn't notice they have already made usa missile shield evading nukes . Sarmat is based on that only . Missile shield means whether its Thaad or gmd or aegis those modernised missiles will evade it becasue you can't detect their path unlike american and russian earlier nukes . That 100 tonn fucker in boost phase will drop all its major weight . Don't you fret about that ;)
Oh cool, it's Friday and I woke up in that alternate universe where the NGA, NSA, and NRO don't exist, now if I could just find the one where bankers are honest, central banks don't exist, and Happy Hour begins at sunrise, but since my wife's ass seems to defy the laws of physics in both universes I can't really complain about the other.
The class of ICBM is pretty much based on throw weight... how much payload in kgs that can be delivered x thousand kilometres.
As such the total weight of the missile is not so important as its throw weight... just off the top of my head TOPOL is about 1.5 tons while the SS-18 is something like 8 tons.
This new missile might only be 100 tons in weight, but with new rocket engines, new fuels, new much lighter electronics with much more precise control systems, plus of course lighter and stronger materials to make the actual missile from will all reduce weight and increase performance. It is like building a race car... you make the structure as light but strong as possible, and then you put the biggest motor you can shoehorn in.... and take it from there.
Liquid propellents are generally more powerful than solid propellents, with cryogenic liquids using hydrogen and oxygen being the most powerful of all, but are not storable on the missile and generally used for rockets for launching satellites and deep space missions.
Part of the drive to smaller warheads is the need to include decoys so one of the latest Russian missiles, the Bulova, capable of carrying 10 550kt warheads but is expected to only carry 6 plus decoys.
And decoys are going to be cheaper yet.
Bulova was a brand of watch with Accutron technology - Bulava is a Russian SLBM
Use Russian accent, sounds same.
SS-18 no longer posses those 20 MT warheads . No they aren't on their way to be decomissioned under start-2 treaty . The SS-18 remains ready as ever. While Russia’s strategic missile forces will receive more than 400 new missiles within 10 years, as part of a modernisation programme, the Satan looks set to easily survive into the 2040s after upgrades.
Launch of the SS-18 ICBM : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mumQ5a4tDSg . ( 58 still deployed with close to 1 MT warheads . )
Burn it down 35 to 40 times. Although don't know if anything living or automated would be around to launch after 6 or 7 ????????
Redundancy?