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Thousands Of Anti-ECB Protesters Gather In Athens In "First Greek Pro-Government Rally" - Live Feed
In what is being described as "the first Greek pro-government rally", thousands of people have gathered outside Greek Parliament in the infamous Syntagma Square to protest against a decision by the European Central Bank to restrict the eligibility of Greek bonds used as collateral from Feb. 11, rather than at the end of February. “ECB Chief Draghi chose to play Merkel’s game again and to blackmail the Greek people and the new Greek government,” is one of the charges being aired on the pro-SYRIZA quarters of cyberspace.
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As 1000s gather...
Syntagma square anti-austerity pro-government protest now. Thousands here and more still coming.Greeks have no fear pic.twitter.com/STA73ScMDx
— george mastropavlos (@g_mastropavlos) February 5, 2015
Thousands gather in #Syntagma square in #Athens. First time that we see a PRO gov rally. #Greece #Tsipras #syriza pic.twitter.com/blwu6mNjm4
— Azza (@Azzaalhassan) February 5, 2015
Thousands at #Syntagma Square in #endausterity demonstration. #rbnews #ECB #Greece #greekparliament #Athens pic.twitter.com/QXGHNzLIK1
— athkork (@athkork) February 5, 2015
#Athens #Greece Syntagma square now pic.twitter.com/YorNTbLpxL
— Yannis Lianos (@ylianos) February 5, 2015
#syntagma #greece #TodosSomosGriegos pic.twitter.com/pErTJhXouZ
— manos gvl (@ManosGvl) February 5, 2015
Rally in #Syntagma against decision #ECB to not loan liquidity to banks #Greece. Anti-troika demo without violence! pic.twitter.com/MeDM7fqP23
— Aitor Sáez (@AitorSaez10) February 5, 2015
And finally, we thought this summed it up very nicely...
#Syntagma live Square pic.twitter.com/AALvJBdmXr
— Andrea Cappelli (@condorbox) February 5, 2015
It would seem Draghi's blackmail scheme is failing and forcing Tsipras' hands as any withdrawal from his demands now will result in mass social unrest... maybe this is not a protest after all, but one long line to the nearest Greek Bank ATMs?
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Drone them.
Isin't the Measles topic the most important thing in the world ATM
Varoufakis himself said his country, Greece is insovent. And now people rally against the ECB because ECB is not willing to take bonds of an insolvent country like Greece as collateral anymore? Shows you how brainfucked those people in Greece are.
Banker Oligarchies don't trust people or markets
Greece can (and probably should) default on their bonds, there is no way they can pay them off and default is the only option.
But these protestors are fools, the Greek government is insolvent. Who is going to pay for all of their pensions and everything else once the EU funding stops. Austerity is going to INCREASE after the default simple because there is no more money.
What these protestors don't seem to understand is it is the EU who has been paying their bills & pensions for the past 5 years, without that support they would have seen more austerity, not the limited austerity they've had so far. The fact they don't understand that shows how brain fucked they are.
Your are right of course in the second part of youur post.
But Greece cannot default on most of her bonds, since those are under English law and not under Greek law. And that is why any Greek government is nothing but a puppet to the other European governments.
Of course they can default, it's quite easy. You just don't make the payments.
This is the only way out for Greece.
The banksters made a mis-calculation on this one. Greece was supposed to be the template for how you can turn a populace into perpetual debt slaves. But they tried to squeeze a few too many drops of blood out, the patient awoke from its stupor, and now Greeks are eyes-wide-open about what the score is and what the banks plan has been. I really hope they stick to their guns and emerge a poor but proud people who had the courage for their sake, and the sake of future generations, to reject debt slavery.
If this is so, why are the people protesting against an ECB, that just takes Greek bonds as collateral anymore?
English law. Hmmmmmm
Didn't Lord Denning in one of his judgements say, a promissory note is to be treated as cash!
Or
How about we scrutinise what constitutes a lawfully binding contract. Failing that just A4V the fucker.
They will have to reclaim their sovereigity and with it to print their own money like their lenders are doing and getting away with.
Or mint gold Drachmas drawn against TVM-LSM-666?
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no one to play solider now, no one to pretend
running blind through killing fields, bred to kill them all
victim of what said should be
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You will do what I say, when I say
back to the front
you will die when I say, you must die
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you coward
you servant
you blindman
Back to the front bitch."
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RIPS
Can you imagine Hillary commanding our Military with all her lies and deception. I would quit.
Barking of machinegun fire, does nothing to me now.
Man I fucking love that band!
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Anyone who attends ANY pro-government rally is a fucking moron.
That is true, but this is not a pro-government rally, it is anti-austerity. If Syriza caved these crowds would turn on them. This looks very like the pitchfork-wielding mob we often fantasize about so let's just be glad there's one country in the world where people are holding policy-makers to their promises, however briefly.
The Greeks think that going back to the dragma is the best thing since cheese in a spraycan but when they do, they’ll devalue with 60% in the first week.
their real estate will implode and unemployment will hit 100% in the private sector.
After that they can rebuild but that will take about 25 years in the best case.
And somehow I doubt that’s been told to them...
There simply is no easy way out for the people, only for the politicians.
So if you live in greece, buy silver and gold with all the money you have and if you’re broke, get the fuck out of the country because otherwise your life will turn into hell.
Coming soon to a Theater near you............
Greece isn't the only one on the edge of the cliff......IMHO it's just the weaker/smaller ones that are falling first.....bigger ones will fall next. Switzerland maybe?
Even with the pain, it is the best and only way out of their nightmare.
Argentina is a the bankruptcy pro. They bounce back pretty quick once they reset.
I would vote for freedom SD. Let the troika choke in their exponential poison. He who defaults first, defaults best.
I’d vote for freedom by getting the fuck out of there! :)
And come back after a few years buying land and houses on the cheap :)
@Sudden Debt
That's what was supposed to happen to Iceland, so the smart Alec PTB were spouting.
Look at Iceland now and don't forget about the bankers they locked up.
WOW! Greece isn’t Iceland by a longshot!
Iceland has a large agriculture base, ery chap energy and is tiny compaired to greece.
Iceland was productive before their banks crashed and didn’t need to start from scratch.
Printing money isn’t the answer to riches but going bankrupt isn’t either!
Greece has no industrial backbone and all it’s income came from tourisme and with their current shit, that’s going down.
Why not use an intermediary currency or just peg.
It's all BS anyway.
Maybe you should recheck you facts.
Every country is insolvent.
Hahaha, that is totally wrong.
Do you know what is important when a country gets out of a total war? The status of it’s industrial base. That’s their wealth.
Wonder if they realize that they will not be getting a pension anymore when they default?
Will they still be pro-government? Do they care?
Will government go away?
This is going to get interesting...stay tuned next week...same Bat time, same Bat Channel.
Anybody seen the Archduke?
Get Victoria Nuland in there. She can easily overthrow the government or get them to play ball for the low low cost of 400 billion Euros(?)
Once they do that Syriza can call a new election. Voila - crisis solved.
I think the new head of Greece will meet with an "accident" soon.
The new Greek government has one chance and one chance only.
File a suit at the courts in Le Hague and expose the conspiracy and fraud that has been committed on the backs of the Greek people.
It's time to name names, prosecute organisations and even foreign governments that have been complicit in the theft and looting.
At the end of the day, it will be German and other taxpayers holding the bag for the crimes of banksters and political whores in London, Paris and Berlin.
Might as well go all the way now. That a crime has been committed and that we are living in a vast conspiracy is pretty obvious now.
Tsirpas and Varoufakis would earn the respect of many ordinary people, maybe they would earn the support of the 99%.
Yes, the conspiracy and fraud perpetrated by the socialist/fascist government must be stopped.
Oh my no! Never blame the 'caring & sharing' visionary socialists! Think of all the good they have done aound the world!
Germany cries about bailouts but never a peep about how the cheap (for Germany) Euro benefits German manufacturing and exports.
The combined debt of the PIGS wipes out Germany many times over! They tried this madness in the past & it brought about you-know-who!
Glad you mention it. At the time there was no European Union or even the idea of such a vehicle. Today is different and we have an international court system designed to deal with domestic and international conspiracies. The Hague has tried war criminals because those criminals couldn't be tried at home.
There are many Greek kleptocrats and oligarchs that had their dirty fingers in the pot when Greece entered the currency union under false pretenses. They also syphoned the bulk off the top when Greece was bailed out not once but twice.
The names are known. The financial trails from Greek banks to Switzerland or NY are also traceable. It is stupid to accuse the ordinary Greeks who as we all know, have neither committed the crime nor benefited from it.
As German, I only know too well what it means to be held quasi liable and accountable for the actions of a rogue government, conspiracy and war crimes that were committed by others in the name of our nation.
The Allies held the Nuremberg trials to deal with the issue and ordinary Germans had to deal with the fallout.
If this government really has a vested interest to represent the Greek people, they must bring this issue to an international court!
So the Greek elections are all rigged? Or do the Greeks vote for these corrupt politicians and ask for a bankrupt socialist system, ignorant or not?
Exactly, which is why Ze Gerrrrrmans will not, after all the bluster, let Greece leave the Euro.
I laugh every time someone on CNBC says that Germany needs Greece in order to maintain a weak currency. The truth is Germany could weaken a Deutsch MArk by buying US bonds and US property just like the Chinese keep the Yuan low. Germany doesn't need Greece for a weak currency.
Tsirpas and Varoufakis would earn an involuntary suicide, but yea I agree with you.
It's kind of curious that they don't mention anything like that. Instead they repeat the same story Germany is telling its people-- that their momey is going to Greece. They don't say 90% of it goes to the banks, mostly German and French banks, that refuse to accept the losses on their bad bets.
They said that they will remove the Greek oligarchs. Wonder when this will surface and in what manor.
Empty your bank accounts my Greek friends.
I love it!!!! One long line in front of the ATM!!!!
Par-tay, dude.
Get a job...
Greece has a 24% unemployment rate. Among younger people, that number goes up to around 54%.
Most 'employed' work for the government. Look for those numbers to go wayyyyy up!
Haven't we learned that most protests are bought and paid events. Looks like Greek unemployment just went down!
I guess it will reach what it is in the US then. Difference is that the US has the Reserve Currency and and still make the EBT cards work....
When that falls...... No Difference.
Send in the provocateurs!
'People over Markets!' Lol! Gee I wonder how they got into this mess?
yep time for some good old USSA "enticement" in Greece for a change in government
I'm wondering how a GS alum didn't get ensconced as president in Greece....how did they overlook this?
Because this greek absurd theater is irrelevant.
Lessons from Athens and Ferguson, MO -- don't mess with angry unemployed poor people!
The line from 300 is great 'An all too human chill ran up the man-god banksters spines'.....yea sleep with 1 eye open, vermin.
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I hate to break this to your big protest crowd ... but it was you who destroyed Greece! Protest that!
It was a shared destruction, from the individual citizen wanting something for nothing all the way to the top of the criminal EU. Small and large joined in on the binge. Just as here in America -- massive individual credit card debt and living high is no different from the central government doing the same.
Socialism kills!
That you got 9 down votes for stating a simple fact speaks to socialist apolgist, pandering morons that have flockhed here. Last week I pointed out the same thing and got I think 27 down votes. Yeah, it wasn't an unsustainable welfare state and out of control spending that made Greece go broke, it was all Goldman's fault, or Jews, or "banksters" (people that use that word don't even know what an investment banker does).
Varoufakis himself said his country, Greece is insolvent. And now people rally against the ECB because ECB is not willing to take bonds of an insolvent country like Greece as collateral anymore? Shows you how brainfucked those people in Greece are.
No country anywhere has any intention of re-paying their debt. So go ahead Greece just repudiate it and move on!
Let the chips fall where they may. Greece is plenty fucked up now as it is so just do it! Sucking on the ECB tit doesn't get you anywhere.
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Get out of the Euro and the EU. Learn to stand on your own and perhaps you can create prosperity. Cancel the debts, take the suffering and be done with it. Take your sovereignty back. However, socialism will fail in that context so a deal with the socialist EU and its crony bankers will be reached.
Poor Greeks. The French and German banks already got what they wanted. Most of their potential losses have been covered and transferred to the public. In december Syriza toned down their rhetoric and made it clear that leaving the EZ is not part of their plan. Greeks loved this new "tough yet moderate" Syriza. Now, the stage is set to really puck the Greeks in the arse - through an exit. Things will get worse for a couple of years, the EU will get to use it as a warning example and push for "reform", and when things start getting better the media goes silent. Must be annoying when your saviors are just another tool to use you.
Paraphrasing the esteemed Mike Tyson: everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.
+1. Can't upvote this for some reason.
Wasn't it GRU agent Durden who was laughing at ECB for almost accepting feta cheese and olives as collateral. Now that ECB doesn't accept bankrupt country bonds as collateral it is somehow bad as well. There is no pleasing the agents of maskirovka!
When there is no job sector, you might as well be out in the public square "protesting."
Default and create your own troika with Venezulela & Zimbabwe! Axis of Deadbeats!
Greeks should walk to Frankfurt first then Brussels.
Only if they get more money from the 5% of the country still employed in the private sector, plus promised retirement at age 50 and a 4 hour nap each day.
My heart goes Out to the Greek people. Good Luck!!! Watch out for Langley Provacatuers...
You guys remember the protests during the last election? They were awesome.
Gee, I wonder if those are public sector or private sector employees? NOT!
Better get a skill Bitchez. And hint to the fat chain-smoking Greek; posting whiny YouTube vids about those dastardly Germans doesn't qualify, except for comic relief, and we ain't laffin wit ya, we laffin at ya. ;-)
Man, that looks like a huge free party!
What will they be doing after Feb 28th? Riot dog awaits.
The Greeks would have been better off if Riot Dog ran the show.
How is the Fishing in Greece
Must be one of those spontaneous gatherings of those who wish to show their love for their governing class - no behind the scenes manipulation of press, social media, ....
“Actually there are no grassroot[s] revolutions, period. Any revolution is a byproduct of a highly-organized group of conscientious and professional organizers, but has nothing to do with grassroot[s].”
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A large collection of niave 'sheeple' on their way to slaughter!
The new government has one chance at this before they all get 'suicided'.
They need to simply declare default ASAP. "Sorry, but we spent all your dough. Have a gyro on us, though."
I hope they are taking the opportunity to print drachma while 'negotiating' right now.
Time to default & get back into your togas & sandels!
Yeah Greece it is all Germany's fault for the mess you got on your hands.
You demonize them and then stick your hand out.
Why haven't you arrested any of the politicians or their cronies that caused this?
Socialism is all about assigning blame & guilt while enjoying the spoils of other people's efforts! And people are stupid enough to vote for them!
There is always plenty of blame to go round but it does take two to Tango as the saying goes. But, and more importantly, you either HATE the loaning of unlawful money (Fiat, at interest, backed by nothing of value) or love it, the is no middle ground. Very cut-and-dried.
Big deal! No more than 1000!
2000, clustered in front of the cameras, all government workers...must...must preserve 30 hour work week, 55 year old retirement, indexed pensions, free christmas bonuses...
maybe they should turn off some of those lights to save money...
Tsipras is going to restore Greek honor by telling lies and disregarding contracts. I guess honor and pride are different in Greece than everywhere else in the world.
Quite frankly I wish Greece would leave the Eurozone already. Greece should also leave NATO as well. Greece would be a better part of new Soviet Union.
Talk about ' sour grapes ' PP!
A rally in support one of group of people raping them instead of another. What a bunch of retards.