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Time For #GreekLivesMatter

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Submitted by Yves Smith via Raul Ilargi Meijer's The Automatic Earth blog,

This is a post by Yves Smith at Naked Capitalism, who shares my worries (and quotes me) – as well as Syriza’s, of course – about what’s happening in Greece. She’s dead on in making the connection between #BlackLivesMatter and #GreekLivesMatter. What’s being done to Greece in this Chicago School style experiment is reprehensible and immoral. Europe is busy creating its own generation of gutter dwellers, first in Greece, and its own Untermenschen, yet again, just 70 years after WWII ended. Shame on them, and shame on you for letting it happen. Don’t!

If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem an accomplice.

The Troika’s willingness to turn Greece into a failed state first, as a side effect of its “rescue the French and German banks” operation, and now, as part of its German hegemony protection racket, is killing people and in the longer term will only accelerate the rise of extreme right wing elements in the Eurozone. As Ilargi wrote last week:

In what universe is it a good thing to have over half of the young people in entire countries without work, without prospects, without a future? And then when they stand up and complain, threaten them with worse? How can that possibly be the best we can do? And how much worse would you like to make it? If a flood of suicides and miscarriages, plummeting birth rates and doctors turning tricks is not bad enough yet, what would be?

 

If you live in Germany or Finland, and it were indeed true that maintaining your present lifestyle depends on squeezing the population of Greece into utter misery, what would your response be? F##k ‘em? You know what, even if that were so, your nations have entered into a union with Greece (and Spain, and Portugal et al), and that means you can’t only reap the riches on your side and leave them with the bitter fruit. That would make that union pointless, even toxic. You understand that, right?

 

Greece is still an utterly corrupt country. Brussels knows this, but it has kept supporting a government that supports the corrupt elite, tried to steer the Greeks away from voting SYRIZA. Why? How much does Brussels like corrupt elites, exactly? The EU, and its richer member nations, want Greece to cut even more, given the suicides, miscarriages, plummeting birth rates and doctors turning tricks. How blind is that? Again, how much worse does it have to get?

 

Does the EU have any moral values at all? And if not, why are you, if you live in the EU, part of it? Because you don’t have any, either? And if you do, where’s your voice? There are people suffering and dying who are part of a union that you are part of. That makes you an accomplice. You can’t hide from that just because your media choose to hide your reality from you.

It is time to take action, both here and in Europe. I hope you’ll send this post, and our related posts on the the ECB and Greece (see here for the overview and here on why the Fed is complicit) to people who would be sympathetic to the plight of Greeks, as well as to members of the Greek community themselves. Even if our suggestion is not a fit, it will hopefully spur them to come up with social media and public events to raise the visibility of the damage being done to Greece and other periphery countries in the name of misguided, destructive austerity policies.

Readers in the US know that the #BlackLivesMatter campaign has succeeded in bringing people of all races together to protest police brutality against African Americans. The protest shown below was held at the American Embassy in London.

UK - Candle Light Vigil for Michael Brown at US Embassy in London

This effort has sufficiently rattled the New York Police Department, one of the targeted abusers, to start targeting peaceful protestors with an “anti terrorist” unit, leading public interest groups to lodge yet more objections.

One of its most successful means of raising public awareness has been to stage “die ins”:

die-in

Grand Central has been the site of many #BlackLivesMatter protests.

The idea would be to bring the protests to central banks themselves, to the ECB in Frankfurt, to the Eurozone central banks, and to the Board of Governors and the New York Fed. Central bankers have managed to hide from public scrutiny and accountability. It is time to put them on notice that the public realizes that their bank-supporting policies are not just destroying economies and futures of young people, but causing deaths. The British Medical Journal attributed a 35% rise in the level of suicides in Greece to austerity. And that’s before you get to the harder-to-calculate impact of the damage austerity has done to the medical system, with many prescription medications beyond the budgets of hospitals. Extracts from a report at OpenDemocracy:

 

I joined healthcare workers and the Greece Solidarity Campaign to visit hospitals, clinics and food markets. I spoke to healthcare staff, volunteers, politicians and local government officials.

What I witnessed appalled me – and brought tears to my eyes.

 

In Greece’s biggest hospital, the Evangelismos Hospital in Athens, conditions were worse than those I have seen in developing countries.

 

The moment the hospital doors open on ‘emergency’ days, people flood in. The collapse in official primary and community health care services means everyone who needs healthcare comes to A+E – whether for a major accident, medication for a long term condition or to get their child immunized. Staff told me that serious trauma cases often have to wait hours for X-rays and treatment due to understaffing and that, if too many cases come in at the same time, people die before they can be treated…

 

Social solidarity health clinics have been set up all around Greece staffed by volunteers who try to provide basic care for those with no access to healthcare. Doctors, nurses and pharmacists volunteer in these clinics, but not nearly enough to meet the needs.

 

I visited the Social Solidarity Clinic in Peristeri, a district of Athens with a population of about 400,000 people. The volunteer staff, doctors and nurses who worked there told me that most local state run health clinics had been shut. The government had closed all the polyclinics then reopened some recently but with only 30% of the doctors that they need. Whereas previously there had been 150 doctors providing services to the district, there were now only 50. A polyclinic for a population of 400,000 people had no gynaecologists, no dermatologists, and only two cardiologists.

 

“We want our doctors back” – said one of the volunteers I spoke to. Thousands of doctors have left the country. Those that remain – including senior hospital doctors – earn about €12,000 a year….

 

Clinic volunteers said that people with long term conditions like diabetes or with cancer had particular problems getting the treatment they needed. Uninsured cancer patients can’t afford chemotherapy. The solidarity organisations appeal to people on chemotherapy to donate one day’s worth of medication for patients who can’t afford to the drugs themselves.

 

The Greek government passed a law in January allowing so that if people get into debt their property can be confiscated. Some people decline further treatment rather than accrue debt from healthcare costs that might lead to their family losing their home.

 

Greek mothers are now charged €600 to have a baby and €1200 for a Caesarian or complications. It’s twice that for foreign nationals living in Greece. The mother has to pay the fee on leaving the hospital. When the charges were first introduced, if the mother couldn’t pay, the hospital kept the baby until the payment was made. International condemnation led to that practice being discontinued and now the money is reclaimed through extra tax – but if the family can’t afford that then their home or property can be confiscated. And if she still can’t pay she can be imprisoned. An increasing number of newborn babies are abandoned in the hospital. One obstetrician I spoke to called it the “criminalization of childbirth.”

 

Contraception is unaffordable for many – health insurance does not even cover it. There are many more abortions – 300,000 a year –and for the first time the death rate in Greece is outstripping the birth rate. People can’t afford to have babies. It’s hard enough to feed and care for existing children.

Please circulate this post widely and tweet it, using #GreekLivesMatter. If you live in a city where a central bank is located, get this idea in front of organizers. They can no doubt adapt and improve upon it. And above all, send it to all the Greeks you know, even those in Greece who might send it on to friends and family in the diaspora.

If you are in the US, please contact your Congressman and express your dismay that the Fed is tacitly supporting the ECB in its reckless and destructive Eurozone policies and has the stature and the leverage to weigh in. Remember, many Republicans are as unhappy with the lack of transparency and undue concentration of power at the Fed. Even a small step supporting this effort is a step in the right direction.

 

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Thu, 02/05/2015 - 22:22 | 5750249 Creepy A. Cracker
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Socialists: #RulersLivesMatter

"Now do what we tell you OR GO TO JAIL.  It's what's best for you."

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 22:35 | 5750284 ZerOhead
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Jail?... Do you have any idea how much it costs to keep a prisoner in jail?

My guess is work camps because as we all know... "Work makes you free". Well free for them anyway.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 22:37 | 5750292 Creepy A. Cracker
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I stand corrected...

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 04:56 | 5750938 All Risk No Reward
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Debt money victims lives [should] matter [if they can get their collective brains to work!]

A debt based monetary system is prima facie fraud.

It is engineered to bankrupt its host society.

If the Debt Money Monopolists lend $20 trillion into society @ 5%, in one year society will owe $21 trillion to the Debt Money Monopoly due to double entry bookkeeping adjustments that add a $1 trillion interest liability to society and a $1 interest asset to the Debt Money Monopoly (via their money center bank corporate front).

Pretty simple, huh?  Can you imagine pocketing $1 trillion per year sittin on your *ss punking society?  Every year?  Year after year?

Anyway, the artifical ZERO SUM GAME makes it IMPOSSIBLE for society to pay back the debts while the Debt Money Monopoly has any money - their net money (under their direct, corporaste or government control) is everyone else's net inextinguishable debt.

It is all a BIG FRAUD.

Debt money is the generator aboard the Debt Star.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 02:21 | 5750810 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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Interestingly, black women seem to have been excluded from all of these accompanying pictures.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 12:24 | 5752040 25or6to4
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EML
Black women weren't excluded, they were never there to begin with so it wasn't possible to have a picture that included them. This is/was a Soros funded movement for guilty white millennials.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 05:36 | 5750967 ebworthen
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Exactly.

I vote for #LivesMatter, including us serfs in the U.S. toiling for the banksters and mandarins in Wall Street and Washington.

Hang 'em high!!!

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 22:23 | 5750255 nmewn
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#WTF

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 22:34 | 5750285 vortmax
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WTF indeed. Stopped reading where "Black Lives Matter" was declared a success...because apparently bestowing sainthood on a few common thugs who ended up on the wrong side of a cop's gun has truly brought all Americans together...

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 22:42 | 5750299 ZerOhead
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He tried to get on the right side of the cop's gun but the cop wouldn't let go of it... (allegedly that is...)

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 22:50 | 5750303 knukles
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Sheeeeeit muthafukas, beens sez yo mattahs what?
Black Lives Matters did not .... oh fuck me with somebody elses' Propaganda stick.

 

Where do people come up with this tripe?  Is George Soros behind this tub-o-crock, too?  Did the Greeks meet with Bammy in the Wookiechamber for a communal back shaving?  How far down this route of feelie goodie gumdrops and rainbow unicorn dropping must we travel before anybody expunging this crap is immediately sterilized for sake of the human race.  Why are we even worried about the human race, because its outcome is already predetermined, that it is but a mere destructive parasite upon mother earth and is doomed to extinction by its very own hand, to wit:  everybody getting butt enhancements and readership of People magazine, the cult of HS Thompson and godless pursuits of self seeking momentary satisfaction at the expense of others, lives fully based upon activities destructive to the human condition and we need to hear this goodie 2 shoes shit?  Its far too late in the evening of today, the shadow of the end of goodness in lives, the very collapse of civilizaiton and we have #greeksexmatters.  Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
Somebody has to get their heads straight out there, folks.

This wasn't from the Onion, was it?
Seriously

Aaaaarraraaaaggggghh!

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 22:51 | 5750333 Edward Morbius
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"Black lives matter", unless you are in Chicago and it is black on black murder with a Dem Mayor, or Detroit, or Nigeria and you are a black Christian being murdered by Boko Haran.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 23:03 | 5750387 knukles
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Honest to God "conversation" with a Progressive:

 

Yes, he's Asian
You can't call him Asian; that's racist!
He calls himself Asian, FFS
Well then, he's a racist

Welcome to California.

Or

Health insurer:  Do you do any recreational drugs?
Knuks:  Huh?  Recreational drugs?  Did you just ask me if I do recreational drugs?
HI:  Yes, do you?
K:  Lemme ask you a question.  I go see a doctor and pay him $25 to get a green card.  I then go to the local dispensary and buy some killer weed.  I smoke it.  Is that recreational?
HI:  No, that's with a doctor's prescription
K:  Jesus.... you people have no idea about California, do you?

    Knuks hangs up phone

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 23:28 | 5750466 Normalcy Bias
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White cop kills black thug in the line of duty = Black lives matter!

Black thug kills other black person = Snitches Get Stitches!

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 23:04 | 5750388 nmewn
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Thats where I was at.

The Greeks laid down with dogs, got up with fleas...and of course the thing to do now is, hashtag your ass off to enrich Dick Fucking Costolo and his board of directors in the Twitter-Verse?

Yep, no doubt about it, I'm obviously insane...lol.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 22:41 | 5750302 r00t61
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"Contact your Congressman..."

You mean,one of the Mob lieutenants is going to listen to my suggestions?

When do I get fitted for my concrete shoes?

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 22:24 | 5750257 MasterControl
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#noneofyoumatter

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 22:25 | 5750260 overmedicatedun...
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I support this..not that helps much..Putin will be the key player here..he is greek peoples last lone hope. or else the EU will drain every last drop of greek blood.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 22:52 | 5750339 overmedicatedun...
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"Ukraine crisis: Angela Merkel and Francois Hollande to fly to Russia - live"

me thinks the greek russian gambit will take alot of the talks - EU is shitting it's pants it sees two fronts the western front and the eastern front..history does repeat.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 22:28 | 5750269 The Duke of New...
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#PrintDrachmas

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 22:33 | 5750282 Joebloinvestor
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Greek lives didn't seem to matter to the Greek politicians and Greek bankers who caused the mess.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 02:12 | 5750792 Augustus
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Same as with the negroes who are doing the drive-by shootings.

If they don't care, it is somehow whitey's responsibility to teach them to be humans.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 02:23 | 5750813 zeropain
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how would you turn out if your grandparents were enslaved and treated like animals.  how much family values would you retain.  

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 02:58 | 5750855 Harbanger
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Better question is.  How would you turn out if you were raised on the modern Democrat welfare plantation?  Dimple Douche.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 22:37 | 5750291 i_call_you_my_base
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It's time for #fuckbankers.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 22:37 | 5750293 jal
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This makes 3 excellent blogger saying the same message.
I'll do something to help.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 22:45 | 5750313 cherry picker
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Everyone's lives matter.  It doesn't matter what nationality, race, color, religion, sexual preference, intelligence, economic situation.

In my experience when I look for the best in people, the best comes back.

The Greek population matters, as does Iraq's, North Koreans, Chinese, Japans, Americans, Mexicans and so on.

The problem in this world are the few who throw road blocks in the way.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 22:59 | 5750362 christiangustafson
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What a special, unique snowflake you are!

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 08:03 | 5751083 August
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Even... yours.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 23:30 | 5750475 falconflight
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Under the power of the State, no one's lives matter.  The USSR had a wonderfully democratic constitution, much of it based upon the American's second constitution.  It was window dressing for one of the most barbarous cruel dictatorships (of the Proletariat) in the history of mankind.  

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 00:01 | 5750546 buyingsterling
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The problem in a nutshell is psychopathy and the centralization of power.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 08:59 | 5751138 shovelhead
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# FAT OLD WHITE GUYS LIVES MATTER.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 22:47 | 5750317 christiangustafson
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Good grief, Yves.

There was no police brutality in Ferguson, MO.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 02:14 | 5750796 Augustus
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Thug dies and it is celebrated with a couple of free shopping days for the community.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 23:02 | 5750379 Jack Burton
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" German hegemony protection racket "

Germany played a simple game with the EU. German banks would lend money at low interest rates to Greece, Greece in return would binge on German exports. Vendor financing to a bad credit risk. But German greed did not allow for a real assessment of risk, instead they opted for a quick fast Euro bonanza. It worked until it didn't. Now Germany acts like they had no role in lending money to a bad credit risk. German industry grew fat on exporting and killing all domestic production in Greece. Now Germany tells Greece, grow your industry, export, earn capital to pay us back.

Excuse me Germany, you bet on a bad credit risk, you profited as that loan money all came back as profits, and now your bad credit risk is broke, in debt and minus domestic industry.

Fuck, you broke it, you fix it. Or is that what Ukraine is all about, clean our Greece and move on to a bigger nation?  The illusion of a German life style without the work, that was what they sold the youth of Kiev, they will find out it was all a lie. Greece was sold the illusion of a German Lifestyle without the work, and presto Greece is fucked!

EU is a failed enterprise, maybe the giant European war they are letting the USA ignite is their plan going forward.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 23:38 | 5750493 disabledvet
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These are Germans.  "Its not suppose to be a fair fight."

 

Goldman Sachs knew it...and still does.

 

The first thing Greece needs to do is an inventory of what it is they THINK they have.  If everything has been stolen....just come out and say it.

 

"Everything has been stolen.". You're not saying anything everyone else doesn't already know.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 02:20 | 5750806 Augustus
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Jack Burton,

You may be correct that the German banks made risky loans.  Of course they could have been mislead by the financial reports given to them by the Greek government.

 

Now, even if they did make risky loans, the rates were very normal and reasonable, not payday loans.

And just because they once made risky loans, should they be required now to make additional loans that are going to be defaulted upon in a few months?  There is a very large pile of Greek debt, certainly.  However when anyone looks at the repayment terms they are pretty generous after already being extended and repriced lower.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 09:30 | 5751203 shovelhead
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Yup.

You see, that's what happens to over-leveraged insolvent banks. They have to keep the credit creating machine going or they collapse. As long as somebody is paying or is there is someone who can be assumed that will pay in the future, they can be called assets.

QE help is on the way. Transfer those crappy debts from the private banks to the ECB and the Euro tax payer.

Then it doesn't really matter in the short term what Greece does. Everybody's ass is covered and the plebes take the hit.

Win/win. Germans can sell stuff to people that really can't afford it and profits are made from loans/ bonds that no sane person would make/ buy.

All you need is plenty of cheap hot money and an accommodating Central bank to leverage your way to heaven.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 02:22 | 5750811 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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Go take your medication.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 02:33 | 5750818 Harbanger
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Jack in many ways is a fag like you.  I would think you'd like him.  Ya both suffer from white pervelage.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 09:33 | 5751213 shovelhead
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I need to stock up on some of that 'white privilege'.

Mine's getting pretty grey and tatty looking.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 23:08 | 5750396 Platinum
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Readers in the US know that the #BlackLivesMatter campaign has succeeded in bringing people of all races together to protest police brutality against African Americans.

More like; "has succeeded in letting guilty white millenials protest against black thugs being held accountable for their actions, while ignoring the rampant black on everyone else including other black people crime wave that only continues to grow over the years."

It's the same people who protest against "the patriarchy" in America, yet ignore what is going on in countries like Saudi Arabia.

Also, fuck George Soros.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 23:16 | 5750421 lakecity55
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"White Lives Don't Matter"

One of the new scams is "White Privilege."

Sorry I got no time for Racist Progressives.

I am gonna protect My Own.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 23:55 | 5750535 Silver Bullet
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Ahhhh yes.
The only racism is America....is reverse racism towards white males! Ha!

Wealth disparities and incarnation rates are worse in the US than under apartheid South Africa.

But that doesn't matter to you, does it?

You're just so inbred with white trash DNA that no manner of facts would ever convince you that black people aren't an actual problem. You go by worthless anecdotal evidence for your 'facts'.

'Merica.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 00:40 | 5750652 25or6to4
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Ahhhhh yes
About that wealth disparity in the US. Thanks to SNAP, section 8 housing, medicare, WIC , and about a 1000 other frebie programs geared toward "impoverish minorities", the average recipient receives the equivalent of about $48,000 a year. Yet these enlightened minorities still have time to commit 87% of the rapes and come up with such creative games as "kill the polar bear" and of course who can forget the knockout game? A let's not mention that our enlightened minorities are put ahead to the front of the line through affirmative action programs for jobs and promotions, college scholarships and grants with and extra 500 point bump in SAT scores for being black ect ect.

And why is it that whites are always being accused of being inbred when it's been proven that middle easterners and east africans are the most inbred people in the world thanks in large part to their religion.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 01:29 | 5750723 Silver Bullet
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Do you actually believe this shit that you wrote? Or did you just finish a fifth of something and are just having a good time?

Just one point, because your post is so riddled with inaccuracies and just inane bullshit...

Four times more money is spent on the mortgage interest deduction for the upper 20% than all of the money spent on social housing housing for the bottom 20%. I know facts that go against your insane racism are not actual facts to you........

If you think the average poor black or white or Hispanic is living a life of the equivalent of 48 g's a year you must not get out of the house very much.

I'll keep saying it, if you think the reason the middle class is being hollowed out is because of giveaways to the poor blacks, than you're an idiot. It's the same bullshit "logic"'that actually tries to pin the financial crises on Jose and Tyrone getting a mortgage. Give me a fucking break. Use your head.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 01:45 | 5750756 falconflight
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16 trillion dollars in redistributionist policies since the Great Society's gestation just might have moved the poverty needle straight into the heart of the TaxPayers.  Don't you think?

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 02:04 | 5750781 Silver Bullet
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If you would like to debate policy prescriptions and failures, we can. However, most of the people who blame welfare programs for much of the problems we face today are insane. They're just attributing blame to a symptom, not a cause. Adding in racist bullshit just makes it laughable when posited as legitimate argument.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 02:15 | 5750799 falconflight
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The Great Society program and all it's iterations has been the greatest destroyer of the Republic and any semblance of what the Founders intended.  Individual rights....property rights of which all natural rights derive has all but been eviscerated.  We all now are at the mercy of the State...that's equality according to the Marxist dictum.  

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 02:29 | 5750821 Silver Bullet
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Did the Great Society fail? Or did it help a bunch of people at least tread water? Both points can be argued.
I damn well knno if you slash taxes and cut spending on the poor this country's economy is not going to magically take off. The fed govt is about 24% of GDP. That leaves 76% less state and local.
Point being, people always blame the govt and not the more likely cause of things both bad and good...natural market and world forces/trends.

As far as property rights, or their destruction also has many fathers. Prime among them is the police, military state we find ourselves in. You want to talk about private property? What about the fact that we have 1/4 of the WORLD's prisoners?
That did not come about because of programs directed toward the poor.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 02:41 | 5750839 falconflight
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I'd like to debate this further, but I'm fading fast.  Good night

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 07:04 | 5751025 christiangustafson
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"Social housing"?

Lolololol ... What a complete loser ....

Please. Kill yourself.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 09:15 | 5751158 headhunt
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Well maybe not kill himself, just have a farm accident removing all his fingers so he can't comment online.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 09:13 | 5751157 headhunt
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"Four times more money is spent on the mortgage interest deduction for the upper 20% than all of the money spent on social housing housing for the bottom 20%"

That is just fucked up communism speak, these oh so 'generous' deductions granted by such a nice government is in fact allowing people to keep some of the money they earned, not yours or anyone else money, their own money. This is the problem with our schools today, people are taught that they deserve shit, like the sweat of another persons work. You know that is called slavery - ironic, huh.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 01:41 | 5750749 falconflight
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Incarceration rates may have disparate impact, but there is no disparate treatment of blacks.  They're responsible for the lion's share of crime, especially violent crime in this country.  

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 01:49 | 5750761 Silver Bullet
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Including drug crimes?

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 01:52 | 5750765 falconflight
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I don't believe so, but I don't recall.

 

Edit:  Not sure what you're actually inferring.  Yes, blacks were getting tougher sentences for crack possession...distribution as opposed to whites for cocaine possession....distribution.  Good intentions led to arguably disparate sentencing.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 01:49 | 5750763 falconflight
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No such legal theory as "reverse racism."  Either it's violation say of Title VII or Title VIII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, or it ain't.  You keep saying white trash, inbred whites, ect., that's a per se...prima facie example of racial harassment.  Just sayin...

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 02:30 | 5750822 Augustus
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How would anyone be able to establish whether the current negro population is inbred?  Probably 75% of the baby-mommas cannot identify the baby-daddy.  Go back three generations, 45 years, and it is all just a guess at best.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 02:38 | 5750835 falconflight
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Just like racist comments were acceptable in polite company decades earlier about blacks, now it's apparently acceptable to make these kind of comments about whites, especially southern whites today.  As I've commented many times, the Democratic Party race baited whites from 1860 to 1964, and the Party turned on a dime and has race baited blacks ever since.  The Party's entire history has been deeply steeped in race politics.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 02:51 | 5750849 Harbanger
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Same abusive slave owning bastards that poisoned the well.  Their direct descendants are cursed.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 02:00 | 5750774 falconflight
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The term racism has been bastardized beyond  recognition.  Having biases, stereotypical understandings doesn't equate w/ the proper usage of the term racism.  But it's short hand for anything that a demagoguing person, organization, or other special interest group to extort a favorable outcome.  I firmly believe that racism is exceedingly uncommon in the US, and regrettably, blacks and browns prosecute all too often the most virulent form of true racism.  Pay back from their point of view?  Perhaps, but no race is as capable of wildly violent behaviors than the white man.  They should consider the history and just how quickly the black community's sense of safety could evaporate.  JMHO

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 02:55 | 5750853 Ace006
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All humans are capable of extreme violence. Whites have just perfected efficient methods of killing.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 09:47 | 5751278 shovelhead
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Why?

Because 100 yds. is a better kill zone than 1 yd. and 5 miles is even better.

Common sense. White guys got it.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 09:05 | 5751145 headhunt
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SB

"You're just so inbred with white trash DNA" - your racism is leaking

The black 'culture' is destroying itself and fomenting hatred in the process.

It is the same as the muslim 'culture' expecting everyone to accept and even conform to the way they want to live. Black, white, muslim, Jew. progressive (aka communist) - it doesn't matter in America as long as they integrate and become an American and not some twisted 'culture' fuck based on stupidity.

 

 

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 23:28 | 5750467 Silver Bullet
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Fuck you.
Say what you want about George Soros, he's not a racist piece of shit, like yourself.
Again, fuck you.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 23:37 | 5750491 25or6to4
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SB
He is not a racist? Then I wonder what his motivation for helping the NAZIs send his own people to the concentration camps during WW2 was? I guess he enjoys death and chaos then as now.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 23:41 | 5750498 Silver Bullet
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Good one!
Soros was a kid during the war you moron.

Seriously all you fucking imbeciles can keep blaming Jews and blacks for all your problems.
Seriously, keep doing it as it just serves to expose what complete and utter dipshits you all are.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 00:42 | 5750656 falconflight
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The ZH Goebbels-Mohammedans rarely blame blacks, and even when they do...it's the Joooos.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 00:40 | 5750653 falconflight
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Jesus Dude, you make it awfully difficult to agree with your position when you cite a filthy DemProgPerv race baiting, pig like Soros.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 02:17 | 5750802 Silver Bullet
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I'm not going to convince anyone of my position on here. People who believe stupid things not based on reality are necessarily impossible to be convinced of the error of their beliefs with facts. It's a hopeless enterprise.
Christ we fought a fucking civil war over it and it took another 100 years to let blacks vote and go to school with white kids. And still people are pathetically racist and cling to their bullshit.

The same can be said with the Jews and their attempted extermination over crazy ideas that helped lead to a truly world war. You'd think that would engender more sympathy or empathy. Nope. I mean what is there like 15 million Jews worldwide? They're kind of outnumbered.
If you ask, naturally, why do I do it?
I guess I'm a glutton for punishment.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 02:32 | 5750823 falconflight
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Well, you've posted a lot of things to reply, but it's getting really late.  But, I'd disagree that the War Between the States was fought to retain or abolish slavery.  Regarding segregation, blacks in academia, housing, religious affiliation ect. have made it plain that 'they' not only do not wish to integrate, but openly call for segregation..i.e. black student centers across the country.  The voting restrictions were not as dogmatic as suggested.  It varied across the country and period.  Heck, at this point, I'd rather like to require all potential voters undergo a literacy test...but I digress.  As far as world Jewry is concerned, the pogroms continue and now the open calls for mass extermination seem even louder than what the Germans were at least openly saying.  Of course I'll be pilloried for recounting that the Muslim/Arab world of the 1930's openly called for Jewish extermination and their most reverend 'holy-man' the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was a principle enabler of Jewish hatred, even meeting with the Fuhrer and was awarded the home of a Jewish family sent to the death camp. 

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 23:31 | 5750478 25or6to4
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Planinum
If I remember the stats correctly twice as many whites are shot and killed by the police in the US as blacks are. Considering the disparity in violent crimes between the two groups that is fairly significant.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 23:13 | 5750414 lakecity55
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I know the Greeks are in a jam. But, they had a super socialistic paradise. Loads of civil service, good pay, early retirement...

Yes, the Financiers took their cut.

But you cannot live forever on credit, which the US will soon find out...

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 23:18 | 5750434 falconflight
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That's the story of the post WWII West.  

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 03:06 | 5750868 Ace006
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And now they voted for a Maoist commie fanatic. Now THAT's the reasonable thing to do when, gasp, austerity is just OUT of the question.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 23:17 | 5750428 falconflight
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Greece has been a failed state since forever...a virtual basket case since they almost landed behind the Iron Curtain in 1946.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 23:30 | 5750472 Silver Bullet
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Oh how I love the ZHer's with mental defects (racism).

Fuck all of you!

If you're a racist (it's ZH, so you probably are): Its 2015 you fucking white trash, piece of shit.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 23:33 | 5750483 falconflight
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Oh, I wouldn't stereotype the Goebbels-Mohammedans of ZH. ;)

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 23:33 | 5750481 Urban Roman
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Ukrainian lives, on the other hand, do not matter.

They can be blown to bits day in, day out. Never gets any attention unless it is in a convenient location to blame on Russia. (and please ignore the Merkin-speaking soldier)

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 23:40 | 5750495 The Darwin Mode
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Silver Bullet: wrong forum, dude.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 23:45 | 5750510 Silver Bullet
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Thanks for your concern, but I've actually been here longer than 99.9% of the people on here.
I was here back when ZH wasn't overrun with KKKers and Nazi's with double-digit iq's. I was here back when people actually debated economic policy. But I digress...

Ha! My how things can change.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 00:09 | 5750566 Silver Bullet
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I love the majority here on ZH that hates the gubmint, absolutely. Unless, that gubmint is beating up and incarcerating black people....that's the "good gubmint".

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 00:37 | 5750648 falconflight
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And you don't think that a fair share of those black folk don't rate a beat down and off to graduate juvie school?  I caught a case of compassion fatigue for those victims years ago.  I have outright hostility with the polar bearing, wilding, flash mobbing, hoodie wearing, rap and thug culture.  They've voluntarily returned to Plantation pets.  

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 01:15 | 5750706 Silver Bullet
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Yeah. I can definitely tell that you used be a good guy.

Plantation pets? Wow, I haven't heard that one before.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 01:39 | 5750747 falconflight
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It's a slimy cesspool of demagoguery here in the ole fascist-socialist State, and blacks are the tip of the spear for the Amerikan version of the  Dictatorship of the Proletariat.  Blacks are victims, just that they have been willingly led back to dependency by a different plantation master.  It's ugly and growing more so every day.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 00:51 | 5750669 LetsGetPhysical
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Unfortunately black people haven't got the memo that #blacklivesmatter.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 01:55 | 5750593 Salsipuedes
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OFF TOPIC:

Just got a call from a Ukrainian Travel Girl. 

She's wired pretty tight but she's a bombshell!

She wants to head north in a tank!

This is gonna be awesome!

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 00:31 | 5750630 Niall Of The Ni...
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Expect this to work about as well as #BringBackOurGirls. Nobody in a position to do anything about it gives a floating franc about your slacktivism. You really think Angela Merkel cares if Greek women can have children or not? Plenty of Turks and Pakistanis and Africans out there who'll be happy to man Greece's resorts in the place of the extinct Greek people.

You really believe the lives of the victims of banksters matter, go to the Donetsk People's Republic and volunteer to start shooting the fascists bankrolled by Frankfurt who are killing Russians daily for having the gall to insist on self-determination. They need all the help they can get. Short of that you're just wanking yourself.

God help me, even the heirs of those of our masters with Jewish blood are not above going to Israel for a few years and proving their manhood serving as Lone Soldiers, as they style themselves. What's your bloody excuse?

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 09:57 | 5751325 shovelhead
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Big + for slacktivism.

I don't get out much, so that's a new one to me.

I like it. I'm fond of word combinations that convey whole ideas in a short space.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 00:43 | 5750660 flyonmywall
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It would really be a huge PR win for Putin if he sent a hospital ship and some doctor's teams to Greece.

The EU can't even take care of its own people, and they're sending humanitarian aid to the Ukraine.

Fuck you EU.

 

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 01:25 | 5750724 Silver Bullet
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Couldn't agree more. Huge Machiavellian opportunity for Vlad.
If they could spare the cash, they should, at least, propose a huge aid package for Greece. Really put the screws to Brussels and Berlin.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 02:20 | 5750807 Batman11
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The all pervasive nature of the accomplices is quite frightening.

Living in the UK I have always thought the BBC news was fair and accurate.

Until the recent elections in Greece there has not been a mention of the suffering going on there.

Every other branch of the MSM has been the same.

But it didn't even start here.

In the sub-prime crisis Wall Street was the victim not the millions that lost their homes.

The MSM has not covered the suffering of those that lost there homes in the sub-prime crisis at all.

Cyprus, Iceland ..... MSM black holes.

The MSM were busy supporting the right wing fascist coup in Ukraine and never mentioned a week of anti-austerity protests in Spain.

These were covered on RT, the most prevalent banner said:

"Unconditional bailouts for bankers and austerity for the people"

We know who is in control and who is pulling the MSM and politicians levers.

But what can we do?

 

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 03:01 | 5750860 Salsipuedes
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If Brian Williams calls, offering an in depth analysis, hang up.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 04:34 | 5750921 Batman11
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We all remember the onerous conditions placed on bankers after the bailouts in 2008.

We stopped them taking their bonuses after crashing the Western financial system.

We cleared out all those that had made big losses.

Those guilty of fraud were imprisoned.

The 1930s legislation that kept the bozos of Wall Street on the straight and narrow for six decades was restored.

Wait a minute; I don't remember any of those things because they never happened. 

Unconditional bailouts for bankers and austerity for people.

Why are they protesting?

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 06:40 | 5751009 mog
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No lives matter to the US, UK, NATO, Israel and their puppets.

Not a bloody one accept their own.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 08:54 | 5751132 IndianaJohn
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Hay! How comes there's no blacks in the 'black lives matter' picture? The demonstrators look like mudsharks to me.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 09:40 | 5751242 Mike Honcho
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#  anything doesn't have lasting effect.  It is catchy and grabs attention temporarily.  People feast on the emotion of being a part of a "movement", and once it fades they latch on to the next important topic given.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 10:27 | 5751510 shovelhead
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Personally, I like protesting from the comfort and convenience of my overstuffed leather chair. I don't feel that it makes my passing angst less valid than those silly bastards who get clubbed and tear-gassed.

Fri, 02/06/2015 - 10:38 | 5751562 shovelhead
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Tsipras' Govt. could easily remove a few jobs from the Greek Dept. of Whatthefuck to hire Dr.s and nurses. Let's see if he does...

Building a socialist paradise without credit is a bitch.

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