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Rand Paul Explains What The Dollar Is Backed By: "Used Car Loans, Bad Home Loans, Distressed Assets And Derivatives"
Having recently exposed the mainstream media's lack of objectivity in "slanted and distorted" interviews, Rand Paul has turned his focus to another staple of the status quo - his father's arch-nemesis, The Fed. As WSJ reports, Sen. Rand Paul unleashed a blistering attack on the Federal Reserve in Iowa on Fridasy evening, calling for an audit of the institution’s books and blaming it for fueling income inequality. "Once upon a time, your dollar was as good as gold," he explained, adding "then for many decades, they said your dollar was backed by the full faith and credit of government." Do you know what it’s backed by now? "Used car loans, bad home loans, distressed assets and derivatives."
As The Wall Street Journal reports,
Speaking to an enthusiastic crowd of Iowa activists, Sen. Rand Paul on Friday evening delivered a blistering attack on the Federal Reserve, calling for an audit of the institution’s books and blaming it for fueling income inequality.
Mr. Paul, a Kentucky Republican and likely 2016 presidential candidate, said the central bank’s monetary policies had contributed to a weakening of the U.S. currency and represented a threat to the stability of the economy.
“Once upon a time, your dollar was as good as gold,” Mr. Paul said, speaking at an event organized by the libertarian-leaning group Liberty Iowa. “Then for many decades, they said your dollar was backed by the full faith and credit of government. Do you know what it’s backed by now? Used car loans, bad home loans, distressed assets and derivatives.”
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In his appearance, Mr. Paul delivered a speech heavy on libertarian themes—calling on fellow members of Congress to support his proposal to audit the Fed before pivoting to other themes such as privacy, surveillance, marijuana and changes to criminal sentencing.
“I think there needs to be some sunshine. I’m going to fight ’em, and we’re going to get a vote on audit the Fed,” he said to applause from the crowd.
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The younger Mr. Paul said in his speech that the Fed’s book-keeping and monetary policies could lead to serious economic troubles, alleging that the central bank was deeply leveraged and that only an audit could sort out its current state.
“They’re leveraged three times greater than Lehman Brothers was when Lehman Brothers went belly up,” Mr. Paul said, referring to the financial services firm that went bankrupt during the 2008 financial crisis.
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He blamed the Fed’s interest-rate setting policies for making income inequality worse, saying that wealthy Americans could survive an era of low interest rates because they had a diversified portfolio of assets. Low-income Americans, Mr. Paul said, weren't seeing their wealth kept in bank accounts grow because of low-interest rates set by the central bank.
Mr. Paul also said that income inequality “seems to be worse in cities run by Democrat mayors, states run by Democrat governors and countries run by Democratic presidents.”
In addition, Mr. Paul expressed support for the Fed’s eventual abolition, though he said that the current rate of borrowing by the United States government was the reason a central bank was needed now.
“People say, ’Well, just get rid of the Fed’—which would be great,” said Mr. Paul. “But the reason we have a Fed is because we have debt.”
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True dat.
Used car loans are the BEST! </s>
ahh cornering the Libertarian vote. He knows what he's doing.
<--- Rand Paul is a sellout zio-whore
<--- Rand Paul is a real conservative
I upvoted myself
lets see him propose silver certificates and talk about kennedy. no? well, lets just know that dumping the fed hands us over to the imf and sdr and harsh devaluation on top of inflation. rand one and two are just tools to fool.
I have freinds that think they are real, I allow them their illusion.
"but the reason we have a fed is because we have debt'...
"the reason we have debt is because we have a fed"....fixed it for ya rand....
His dollar is a world of hurt.
The first item in the article should be derivatives since that is where bad car loans, toxic mortgages, and all those other financial debt instruments are derived.
Globally the ELITE (the REAL terrorists) as predicted, are PANICKING and getting fricking hysterical again.
They tend to do that WHEN THEY FEAR THAT THEIR ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO KEEP US ENSLAVED AND STEAL FROM US IS BEING THREATENED.
Rand Paul has to unfortunately cozy up to the Zionist Establishment to even be relevant on the national stage.
It's the unfortunate cost of doing business in the Zionist USA.
Rand Paul could be like a typical paytriot and whine on message boards all day from his trailer out in the woods, or he can work within the system. I know its easy to heckle him from the peanut gallery, but until you have skin in the game, its not that easy.
I give Rand Paul props for becoming a Senator and actually accomplishing as much as he has, but at the end of the day I believe national politics will become more and more irrelevant as time passes on because technology will break us free from the archaic show business for ugly people known as politics.
Technology is the only possible angle. Even if Paul were to be elected, he couldn't do anything from the WH. He'd be shot like JFK and Reagan. He can do more from the Senate.
Rand P. is useful in his own way (i.e. at least raising a few issues in public debate that most Rs or Ds won't touch).
If I were registered to vote, i'd probably vote for him, but I have zero expectation that Mr. Paul, by himself, would change much of anything. However, it just might be different if Mr. Paul were presiding over the USG if/when the re-set that everyone expects finally arrives.
There can be no meaningful change without a complete collapse.
I can only hope Europe is about to experience said "collapse" -- we'll see if the US follows suit.
One of the other guys on my floor keeps coming up with very persuasive scenarios where there is a EUR collapse, and EUR Banking Collapse -- everone looses everything -- except their debt which manages to survive. (His scenario assumes a stagnant political system -- which I find suspect and the weak point in his ideas, but nonetheless)
In the chaos & finger pointing, Ukraine becomes front and center again -- somehow. And you'll have a bankrupt Europe fighting a bankrupt Russia. The US thereafter writes off all its debt to these places as the blowback would be minimal, and benefits greatly from a quickly appreciating USD against the EUR currencies.
He fully expects Japan and China to be slugging it out within the next decade.
He is a bit more pessesmistic than I am -- and in his scenario we argue over German's future. I point out that the Bundesrepublik Deutschland was a Prussian idea. Prussia is a now extinct Kingdom and Royal family, which was essentially an amalgamation of three larger kingdoms intersecting -- the various German kingdoms, the Kingdom of Poland and the Kingdom of Russia under the Tsars. I point out that Germany has only been a completely "Western" nation since the end of WWII, and if Germany pivoted Eastward -- even moderatly (e.g., refusing the fight the Russians and refusing anyone to use her land, waters or airspace to do so) all hell would break lose in all directions.
God I love my job.
Probabaly not too far off except more countries will be forced to side with Russia for various reasons like NG and oil? But what happens when all the freebies are not available in USSA ? That is gonna be the kicker for us regardless of what happens in euro ! That day will come, perhaps sooner than most realize.
The Anglo empire must keep the Europeans fighting against the Russians. In order to facilitate this, if the "NWO" becomes untenable -- I expect the Anglo-Empire to throw all of Europe under the bus to prevent the Europeans from getting too friendly with Russia. Why?
Look at history and the league of nations -- which was the UN after WWI. Before that we developed a independent Germany and an independent Russia who were -- at first -- friendly with one another. Instead of risking them teaming up -- we had WWII, and because of geography, Europe and Russia destroyed one another and the US came out almost unscathed.
NATO (America) is the big fat bully pushing the little guy in the gang ahead of him into the fight. Germany's starting to lean back now realizing that its Mike Tyson with his hand on the NG valve and the other on the export throttle.
Merkel will be held accountable for this charade of NATOs (cloaking agression in unfounded accusation) and her complicity as will Schaeuble, Gauck, Schweinmeyer, Schulz and the rest of the Eurocrats. You see their rhetoric changing as they clearlz see the end game.
Checkmate is in sight and the Goldman Sachs lies reallz are just that. The question is no longer if but when. The euro's days are numbered but the clouds of war are being prepared to cover it in chaos.
Germany is printing DMs, Greece - Drachmas etc. I am really wondering what is keeping Germany from bailing into the DM before the SHTF. With $1.3T on the possible loss column...I'd take that jump before the Euro does it for them.
But that's just my FAT ASS opinion.
Haus-Targaryen you say Russia is Bankrupt?
Next week after they are able to put themselves on the Gold Standard with their actual debt of 10% of GDP we will see who is actually Bankrupt when backed by a REAL asset. And lets NOTforget their Natural Resources.
Do you still collect paper and electronic digits?
One of the guys on your floor"? Are you in a Dormitory? lmao
complete collapse == unintended consequences
Sellout zio-whore no doubt about it. Coming a marginal second as controlled opposition.
The fucker would not even support his ol man.... the one bloke in living memory that could have really turned the living hell of a country around!
It saddens me that you guys missed such an opportunity. Here all politicians are the same as Obogo only worse - they actually bow down to that monkey.
Collapse, collapse, collapse. that's all I hear about here, but nobody seems to have a clue of what that will look like. Orlov lived through it in Russia, and he talks about options all the time. We're fucked, but our choice is to run off and take care of ourselves, a la orlov
http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/02/quite-few-of-those-currently-inhab...
or try to actually work on having an impact on pushing us toward a better resolution of life after collapse. Russia went through it, so did Germany and Japan, even Zimbabwe. The world won't end, it will change. It's an opportunity, if this dissociated isolationism that we're experiencing at the individual level could be overcome by some leaders who can avoid assassination...
none of those collapses involved the reserve currency or the worlds policeman.
what we are looking at is a global v. a national iisue. much different.
what I envision is a destruction of fiat currencies in a chain linked event. when the currencies die were are going to have a mad scramble to control who should bemviewed as the criminals. Krugman and the leftists are well ahead in defining that perception so my hopes are low that the end result will be good.
but you have to have hopium.....and lead and pm.
+1
Doomspeak got old after Y2K was shown to be a non-event. Next it was terrorism, then it was the housing bubble popping, then it was the bailouts, then it was swine flu, then it was FEMA concentration camps, then it was ACA will bankrupt everything, then it was ebola, then it was the Islamization of Europe, on and on it goes of excuses to hide out in the woods with cans of beans and an old mosin.
There were countless opportunities and unbelievable changes in new technologies, meanwhile paytriots are tuned in to alternative media on the edge of their seats waiting for the next herbal health supplement or storable food or gold coin to blow their next paycheck on. These doomers' agenda is selling shit you don't need and running fearmongering infomercials so they can line their wallets with "worthless" Federal reserve notes.
The stock market had unprecedented growth never seen before in history, and the so-called "truth" movement is telling you to avoid "worthless stawks" and instead for you to buy gold and silver at record highs. How did that "truth" work for the paytriots? Well they live paycheck to paycheck, and blame Obama for it. That's what happened. They refuse to take responsibility, and refuse to at least TRY to seek out opportunity.
I don't believe there will ever be a mass awakening because too many people have stinking thinking. Even those who claim to be "awake" totally aren't because fear is the opposite response to these changes.
They blame the weather, the traffic, the economy, Obama, the government, and countless other things on their own lack of personal responsibility.
In desperate times like these, to have ANY politician campaigning to audit the FED is a miracle and should be welcomed with open arms. Some here need him to be the 2nd coming, or pushing for a gold standard before they'll back him.
I say take the gifts we're given if they move the ball in our direction, whether by a socialist in Greece or a libertarian in the US whose backer is monsanto. At this late stage in the game, with the elites up 100-0, we need a knockout and i don't give a shit who it comes from if he delivers.
He sounds great on many issues but I also heard he supports foreign wars and entanglements, so I can't support him because of that. Am I wrong?
cigar..this quote is for you:
"In North Africa and the Middle East, our problem has not been a lack of intervention. In the past 10 years we have fought two full wars there, and bombed or sent troops into several others.
This past year, President Obama illegally began a war with Libya, taking sides with the rebels to unseat an admittedly bad man in Moammar Gadhafi. There were several problems with this policy: First, the president did not seek or get the necessary constitutional authority from Congress for this military action. If our Constitution is to mean anything it must be applied even in times of war, when those seeking to exercise power do not find it expedient."
rand paul..
does this help?
"Am I wrong?"
Yes and no. It's true that he's abandoned his father's pure non-interventionism (out of political necessity - because that view is impossible to maintain in the GOP) but he's still an order of magnitude less hawkish than the warmongers currently in charge of the foreign policy. E.G. He's for ending the Afghan war immediately, he's for eliminating all foreign aid, he's against any attack on Syria, he's against any involvement in Ukraine, he's against any attack on Iran, he was against the Iraq War, he was against the Libyan War. If you really hate the War Party, as do I, perhaps the best endorsement of Rand is that they (McCain, Graham, Kristol, Krauthammer, etc) all hate him like grim death and try to smack him down whenever they can.
Rand Paul is the most dovish of the presidential candidates for 2016 by far - no one else is even remotely close.
If you want a peace candidate, he's your man.
is this guy for real? I mean, obama talked a great game too, then once elected, walked like a dictator.
of course he might be running for president in the midst of a world-wide economic meltdown. if so, he will have front-run popular opinion and might actually be able to do something constructive. time will tell.
I think if he gave up on political rallies and only worked comic book conventions, he'd probably be more successful.
Pretty sure if you're not already controlled by the time you get in the white-house, they take you in the backroom and explain what happened to Kennedy.
You forgot to credit the late breat Bill Hicks for that one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJPwM8nehkQ
No one, NO ONE! gets to the oval office without their approval. Last time that happened they had to blow the dudes head off in Dallas. They cannot take those risks anymore.
obama talked a good game?
he was so full of $#!+ during the campaign....i mean really....how can anyone fall for "WE are the Ones we've been waiting for" nonsense....and then, in the same breath state he's going to restore America's CREDIBILITY worldwide.
Any candidate is vetted long before they get to run for president. You can't run for congress without millions of dollars of campaign contributions and you can't get the campaign contributions unless your opinions are "sound".
The chance of a Rand Paul getting to congres is what, one out of 235, if that? The chance of him becoming president is practically nil.
He's a politician, a profession defined by lies, deceit and self-serving at the expense of the very people to whom election promises are made. If you're in politics you have by definition the personality type drawn to lying, deceiving and self-serving graft and corruption. Why would Rand Paul be anexception? You have to be fucking naive to believe that. As naive as the millions who actually thought that Obama meant what he promised to garner his votes in 2008.
Politicians are a brand and have campaign managers (marketing VPs) to apply market research in order to craft their campaign towards increased revenues (votes). His marketing VPs must have told him that he should toss in a few tidbits of truth in order to stand out from the other shitty political products.
In short, Rand Paul is a smug twat with a punchable face.
"Might actually be able to do something constructive..."
... For the few days in between that moment and the next (which is the one where he dies from a suicide by two shots to the back of the head wrapped in a rug at Ft Marcy Park).
There. Now it is a complete thought :-)
When Rand Paul blames income inequality on the Democrats, he lost me. The mess the USA is in, no one political party could do it alone, it takes a team. Democratic and Republican looters working as a team.
Truth. Government is your problem. Not the false dialectic of controlled opposition. There's no money (and therefore no political will) in letting people keep their freedoms. And as Lenin said, the best way to beat the opposition is to lead them.
Where did you read that?
He said, and I quote, since it's right above to read, the quotes, said by Rand, not what you imagined:
“seems to be worse in cities run by Democrat mayors, states run by Democrat governors and countries run by Democratic presidents.”
He blames the FED and points out that it "seems" worse in Dem places but nowhere says they are to "blame" and it's not even clear where you got that from but you and 30 someodd people should read more better.
And this is also what he said not what you interpreted:
"delivered a blistering attack on the Federal Reserve, calling for an audit of the institution’s books and blaming it for fueling income inequality.
Mr. Paul, a Kentucky Republican and likely 2016 presidential candidate, said the central bank’s monetary policies had contributed to a weakening of the U.S. currency and represented a threat to the stability of the economy."
That's funny, and sadly true.
Backed by the full faith and credit of the Emperor's New Clothes.
Actually, it's backed by a basket of crimes- mainly murder, followed by theft, complicity, and willful stupidity.
Paging Radical Marijuana...
New World Chaos, my 2 bits is below. I liked your paraphrasing "basket of commodities" or "basket of currencies" as "basket of crimes."
You mean that Title Lien on a 1997 Yugo isn't worth $1000?
and the mortgage on that house in Stockton CA (vacant since 2008) isn't worth $300,0000?
.... but the payday loan for $787 held by my gardener (who went back to El Salvador) is still good, right?
All these loans, plus hundreds of trillions in derivatives, are all good if the holder can bribe the right people into giving him a bailout. All paid in Fed clownbux created out of nothing. Ultimately, the burden will be on chump savers/taxpayers.
We derivatived some folks...
He forgot to include "military might".
Now just how do we turn that giant resource sucking liability into an insane money maker... think man think...
Yes, the USD is backed by the US Military.
how are those new fighter jets coming along anyhow??
Overpriced; how are you going to pay for them?
Issue debt, let the Fed monetize it and remit the interest back to Treasury; watch the defense contractors' stock prices rise, and report the growth of the economy on the news.
Duh.
They performed just like baby seals... against the Indian Air Force.
Yes, the USD is backed by the US Military.
Any nation that talks of accepting anything besides US dollars for oil - or proposes a gold based monetary system seems to find itself invaded and overthrown (with their gold supplies gone missing).......
(If gold is some 'barbaric relic' then why is it always the first thing that goes missing during regime changes? )
At some point in time - not too long off - we're going to find that the US military won't be enough to force the rest of the world to keep accepting $US...... China and Russia are still playing along - to a limited degree, not wanting to see thier $US holdings become valueless but they're reducing them and convertign them into tangible assets. How long before the rest of the world starts doing the same (oh... it's already happening...)
The threat of force. If you don't pay taxes in dollars, you will go to Federal pound you in the ass prison. If you don't sell your oil for dollars, you will be bomded, invaded and droned.
Disingenuous fuck
Did I read that right?
The reason we have a Fed is because we have debt.
Look at that statement again, and let it sink in. Holy shit!
It's fucked...
The Fed was foisted upon the nation by those benefitting from the creation of the debt.
If this is the best that he can do, then anybody who expects this man to have answers is fucked.
Controlled opposition baby. Anyone looking for someone else to solve the problem is fucked.
Bass ackwards, cranial-rectal inversion.
The reason we have debt is because of the Fed, Paul. You almost have it right.
Holy shit again.
I think he's just delusional actually.
The dollar isn't "backed" by that debt...but the State of Kentucky sure is!
THE PRICE OF COAL HAS COLLAPSED.
THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM FOR THE DOLLAR.
Indeed...the dollar SOARED on Friday with global fiat and gold and silver getting annihilated...why?...because ZERO of ANY debt is going to be repaid.
That only leaves two "default" (as in computer buy and sell orders) namely the dollar and in my view TREASURIES.
The problem with oil is not the lack of it but it is so ansolutely ridiculously cheap in the USA "its making every other asset class on the planet well nigh worthless."
These are DOLLAR panics popping up all over the place...not oil panics.
And i'm about as sharp as a sand fly.
Whatever his faults, he's the only one likely to put an end to our militarized foreign policy, really cut spending (not just reduce its rate of growth), do something to rein in the Fed, and secure the border. None of the other prospective candidates will do any of these things.
What a disingenuous, lying sack of shit. His father should be ashamed.
Personally I am willing to give a free pass to anyone who publicly says "End the Fed"...
Words from a politician are worth less than the dollar. Almost of as little value as the Fed.
What a disingenuous, lying sack of shit. His father should be ashamed.
Why? I think Mitch McConnell would be proud of his bastard son.
"Could lead to serious economic troubles"
"Could lead"
"COULD"
Bottom line; Hillary 2016.......
Sheezus. And I was getting worried that nobody saw the 200 trillion lb gorilla in the room.
Give or take.
Blue Buddha
He's obviously a neo-con! His wife is an undercover Mary Kay saleswoman! His great-great grandfather was a shape shifting reptilian! He doesn't even pay his taxes for gawds sake!
(Now that we've got that out of the way...lol)
What? You should check out Rep. Ron DeSantis, from FL 6th district. He's the Real Deal. Lou Dobbs (CNN) loves him, search Youtube.
If Lou Dobbs supports him then you know he is worthless.
2 down votes but no commentary. Lou Dobbs is a populist that is as worthless as any other tv talking head out there. Please show me a single time that he has actually pointed to the real issues dragging the country down? Aside from his attacks on illegal immigration I don't think there is a single issue where he has addressed the root causes of our country's issues.
Ah, Jadr, I regard it as the problem with political compromises ... Individuals have their own decisions to make regarding that issue, which is quite the bitch!
Maybe he's part weasel and part crawfish. The way he backtracked on that whole vaccination controversy, and then arranged for a cheesy photo-op while supposedly being vaccinated (with what? saline solution?) should tell anyone capable of exercising critical thinking skills that he's a typical politician, willing to say or do just about anything to garner support.
I'm not sure he backtracked on anything.
I have all my vaccinations and I still got the measles, mumps, chicken pox, German measles when I was a kid. My kids have their vaccinations as well but it was going to be a cold day in hell before the government came in and threw them to the floor, stepped on their necks and FORCE INJECTED a swine flu vaccine into my kids bloodstream just because the government calls it an epidemic or a crisis.
Isn't that all he's saying?
"I'm not sure I'm different from the president or anyone else on the position," Paul said. "We have rules to encourage people to have vaccines in the country, but I don't think anybody's recommending that we hold them down."
"Interestingly, 48 out of 50 states do have a religious as well as philosophic exemption if you have a problem," Paul said.
Why yes, as a matter of fact thats exactly what he's saying.
I'm no big fan of Paul but I agree with your comments nmewn and people are "misinterpreting" or intentionally misleading or are easily mislead on what he says.
So many people on ZH rail against Rand but I do not know why. They just post a negative comment and conveniently leave out the arguments/facts/background information.
Politicians are LAWYERS, and LAWYERS are useless eaters who contribute nothing positive to mankind. Don't waste your time or money on political donations or voting....Spread the message of Anarchy to friends and family! Become self-reliant and help your neighbors in times of need. Political entities don't give two $hits about you or your loved ones...they care about control and money. VOTE ANARCHY!
Laissez Faire
SP
But but but without government who would steal my money at the end of a gun?
VOTE ANARCHY!
Stop telling me what to do.
Actually the percentage of LAWYERS in the house and senate has been shrinking for decades. I believe it is less than 20% now which would explain why the laws they write now don't even make sense.
Both Pauls are doctors.
'Robot Traders Mom Explains What Rand Paul is Backed by: Israel'
I don't think so, but I love your beard! My plumber has a nice beard...
Senator Rand Paul
Prays at the "wailing wall" in hijacked Palestine so that he can keep his job in Washington and America in debt!
dorky hat club and daddy's rosieX ... old skool illuminati ss if i recall correctly (they may just be baking cookies at the lodge for the scholarship programs though) An apparent adversary of the bad guys is not necessarily a friend. let 'em talk on for they speak much truth, in the end i'm thinking maybe no bueno though ... watch MSM switch tack and try to paint these ones as the saviors
-cornfritter
Yeah Israel hijacked their own land 3 different times. The name Palestine came came from when in 168 BC Antiochus Epiphanes desecrated the temple with pigs blood and renamed Israel with the name Palestine. It has always been their land and history proves it. Read about the origin of Hannukah. Get your facts straight before you post next time.
This land is my land... This land is my land...
So which is it?... Let me answer that for you. Whichever one you tell us it is?!!!
Unfortunately Dp you fail to realize this ain't "manifest destiny" like it was for your Christian counterparts in the 18th and 19th Century in covered wagons eliminating the indigenous people and their food sources from the land they took over!
Check out these bows and arrows brotha!
Oh, he's just a member of the Netanyahu High School Troll Brigade.
Here is one real inconsistency among ZHers that I've noticed.
Most are of a libertarian, leave me alone and I'll leave you alone, bent.
Except
Israel. Israel is bad. 'We' have to stop Israel.
My point is, what do we care about what Israel does any more than we care about the IS does and why? They are over there, not here. We should stay out of it (in both instances) and let them sort it all out amongst themselves - unless they refuse to leave us alone.
As for bankers, there is no need to go bombing other countries to handle our banker problems so that really isn't related.
Israel. Israel is bad. 'We' have to stop Israel.
TR
To my point about "manifest destiny" with nuclear weapons this time... America is bad because it supports "it"!
Backs vaccines as well.
Rand Paul is certainly no Ron Paul, I saw Rand on TV telling mothers not to vaccinate their children, right when measles is making a come back!
When I was a kid ... and when I was raising my kids ... we didn't have measles vaccinations. Measles, mumps, and chicken pox were all common childhood diseases. They caused children little problem and once they got them they had immunity for life. But if they didn't get them as children, but rather as adults, the effects of these diseases was much more severe.
So what did we do?
As soon as one kid on the block got one of these diseases, we (as a small community) had a party. We invited the sick kid and all the other kids. They all got chicken pox or mumps or measles at the same time. And bammo ... problem over for life.
It was really a pretty cheap treatment ... just a little ice cream.
You lie. He was on TV saying he thinks people should get their kids vaccinated but he supports their right to choose to or not.
You filthy lying government shill piece of shit. I hope your next assignment is in the IS or Ukraine.
It's backed by the Souls / Birth Certificates which are securitized bonds traded on the Worlds makerts used as Collateral to pay back the debt from the bankruptcy of 1933 by the Criminal Fraud UNITED STATES, CORP. INC..
The lie of "The full faith & credit of the American People" are those Souls.
backed by my 16 month olds future labor....
The Federal Reserve Board exists because it was made by the biggest gangsters, the international banksters, applying the methods of organized crime to the political processes, such as bribery, intimidation, and assassination of those who could not be bribed or intimidated. To audit that would lead towards its destruction, because the more that people paid attention, the more that they would perceive that the existing situation makes NO SENSE, other than as the result of the successful application of the methods of organized crime to capture control over the powers of governments.
Rand Paul, like Ron Paul, is another reactionary revolutionary, whose statements are superficially correct on the level at which they are made. However, they do NOT fully face the facts about the SOURCE of the public "money" supply, because they do not want to! The deeper reasons are that IF one looks hard enough at the facts, not only will one discover that governments are the biggest form of organized crime, controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals, but also, THEY MUST NECESSARILY BE. The Federal Reserve Board is the symbolic pinnacle of social pyramids based on integrated systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence. The entire economy is based on the government enforced frauds of privately controlled banks making the public "money" supply out of nothing as debts. Not only IS that due to organized crime, that situation necessarily exists, because all debt controls depend upon death controls, since all private property is based on backing up claims with coercions, in which context money is merely the most abstract form of that, since MONEY IS MEASUREMENT BACKED BY MURDER.America (and the whole world, to the degree that the American Dollar is the global reserve currency, as well as due to the degree that the international banksters were also able to corrupt almost every other country in the world to become another component in the banksters' LEGALIZED COUNTERFEITING) is drowning in the banksters' bullshit debt slavery systems, and appear to be going down for the metaphorical third time ... While drowning like that, it will become harder and harder to actually audit that vicious system we are drowning in, since to examine the Federal Reserve Board is to examine the history of triumphant organized crime effectively privatizing public powers. That triumph has become runaway enforced frauds, which are constantly becoming more psychotically insane, as symbolized by the superficial appearance that the American Dollar has become backed by "used car loans, bad home loans, distressed assets and derivatives."
While that may well appear superficially correct, since a faith-based money is not backed by anything objective which has intrinsic value, the actual situation is that fiat money is backed by the powers of governments to demand payment of taxes in that form of money, as well as the rest of the legal tender laws. Therefore, the government's power to collect taxes, and otherwise enforce the "rule of law," is what backs that fiat money up. Thus, to boil it down, the power to tax makes the money required to pay those taxes have value. The power to tax is basically the power to rob, and the ultimate power to rob is the power to kill. Therefore, it is the governmental power to kill that backs up the value of fiat, apparently faith-based money, which the banksters are allowed to make out of nothing, as debts for everyone else, and then use to speculate with, in ways which are somewhat similar to gambling casinos, except many orders of magnitude worse!
There is only one definition of money that is consistent with all the facts, namely, money is measurement backed by murder. Every other definition regarding what money should be tends to deliberately ignore some facets of the overall factual situation. Money backed by gold is the measurement of gold backed by murder. The same goes for any other precious metal or commodity. Money is symbolic accounting, whose meaning depends upon the behavior that backs the meaning of that symbol up. In the case of the American Dollar, its value is actually based on the American Military and Police, because there is a combined money/murder system.
Auditing the Federal Reserve Board is guaranteed to be opening a can of rotten worms. However, the real problems are far more profound than merely that! Political economy exists INSIDE human ecology, which is another way of saying that the debt controls depend upon the death controls, or that money is measurement backed by murder, as the accounting systems which keep track of private property being claims backed by coercions. There is nothing else beyond the dynamic equilibria of systems of organized lies and robberies, in which the current systems of enforced financial frauds are symbolic robberies. The Federal Reserve Board exists as the American King of Fraud, inside of globalized systems, wherein the Bank of International Settlements is the King of Kings of Frauds. In turn, those depended upon the history of warfare, selecting for the surviving War Kings, who made the sovereign states, whose powers are actually controlled by the biggest gangsters, the banksters, for several Centuries in Europe, which banksters recaptured control over the American public "money" supply for more than a Century, as well as also expanded to become an almost total global empire based on those kinds of enforced financial frauds, controlling natural resources, and people's live.
The basic history behind the existence of the Federal Reserve Board is that its symbolic role as the single greatest of the national Kings of Fraud depends upon the long previous history of warfare, in which successes were based on deceits and treacheries, which then morphed to become that the best organized gangs of criminals, the banksters, were able to apply the methods of organized crime to the political processes in order to take control of the powers of governments to kill, to use that power to back up the power of those banksters to symbolically rob, through the established systems of enforced frauds, whereby privately controlled banks get to make the public "money" supply out of nothing as debts. However, inside that context, Rand and Ron Paul continue to be reactionary revolutionaries, because their bogus "solutions" tend to be based on the same old-fashioned false fundamental dichotomies and related impossible ideals, such as going backwards, to backing money with gold and silver again, which would implicitly be backed by the enforcement of the rule of law (while the fact that ability is based upon being able to murder those who resist being ruled and robbed in that way tends to be disregarded.)
The Federal Reserve Board has become the single biggest component in the globalized systems of electronic monkey money frauds, backed by the threat of force from apes with atomic bombs. Any public focusing of more attention upon that will tend to reveal the degree to which human civilization has become runaway criminal insanities, because the established systems of enforced frauds have become more and more psychotically disconnected from the relatively more objective physical world, as the successes of fundamentally fraudulent financial accounting systems accumulated their manifest contradictions, such as to the point where we appear to have "money" backed by "used car loans, bad home loans, distressed assets and derivatives."
The basic problem is that Neolithic Civilizations' social pyramid systems were always based on being able to back up lies with violence, which developed at an exponential rate to become systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, such as operated by the Federal Reserve Board, that have become electronic frauds, backed by atomic bombs. In that context, auditing the Federal Reserve Board is guaranteed to reveal numbers which are NUTS, because everything it did was ALWAYS based on being able to back up frauds with force. The degree to which that has been successfully done for more than a Century means that almost everyone who has participated in those systems were proportionately successful to the degree that they could operate as professional liars and immaculate hypocrites. That situation has become extremely serious, because the ability to back up lies with violence has been amplified to astronomical sizes, by progress in physical sciences and technology. Meanwhile, nothing like that kind of progress has been allowed to happen in political science, because that would take profound paradigm shifts in the ways that we perceive politics.
Human realities are always organized lies operating robberies. Money exists because measurement and murder exist. However, those became socially successful by having the measurements be done through the maximum possible frauds, while the murders were done through the maximum possible deceits. Meanwhile, it always continued to be the case that everyone lived through some systems of organized lies and robberies, which systems were in some dynamic equilibria with each other. People must necessarily live through some systems of relative lies and robberies, due to their ability to perceive themselves as separated from their environment and each other. Human beings live by making mental models of their world, which include mental models of themselves inside of their mental models of their world. Therefore, the ability of human beings to live by telling stories necessarily results in the SUBTRACTIONS which are the basis of all possible stories requiring relative robberies, to take energy across the boundaries defined by those relative subtractions. More sophisticated social stories are always based on those foundations.
The existence of the Federal Reserve Board was due to the relative, accumulating, social successes of the best organized gangsters, the banksters, applying the methods of organized crime to capture control over the biggest form of organized crime, the government. Along the way, the triumphs of those enforced frauds got bigger and BIGGER, although that meant those successes also became more psychotically insane, because being able to back up lies with violence can make those lies become the socially dominant bullshit, because it was promoted by the biggest bullies, but still, that violence can never stop those lies from being false. People were rewarded for agreeing with lies, while punished for disagreeing with lies. The more successful that becomes, the more terminally sick and insane that society becomes.
Hence, the Federal Reserve Board manifests the growing contradiction with respect to a political economy based on enforced frauds, in which there is practically nothing else than organized crime and controlled opposition. (In which context Rand and Ron Paul are kinds of controlled opposition, or reactionary revolutionaries.) Meanwhile, to the degree that there is any audit the Federal Reserve Board, that must necessarily reveal that the primary American State Religion, namely its apparently faith-based Monetary System is an absurd hodge-podge of numbers which were NUTS, because the accounting systems deliberately divorce political economy from human ecology, because there are attitudes of evil deliberate ignorance maintained towards the murders that actually back up the money.
To have a better monetary system would require that be consistent with general energy systems concepts. However, such an achievement demands a series of intellectual scientific revolutions, in order to identify and correct the ENORMOUS ERRORS present in the currently dominant natural languages, and philosophy of science, due to the ways that the biggest bullies' bullshit social stories have been able to become systems of lies backed by violence, enshrined in systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence. The Federal Reserve Board is the single greatest example of the dominance of the banksters' bullshit, based on enforced frauds, being able to control the ways that people think and behave. To actually audit that in any significant ways would drive extreme cognitive dissonance throughout the established social systems, since that Monetary System is actually an irrational and absurd State Religion, which developed by having its measurement being backed by murders, in ways which the majority of people never perceived, and still do not want to think about.
I should have read your post before I wrote the post below. In short, I think TPTB want the Fed to fail in its current role, which would allow further concentration of power at the BIS and IMF levels. The Fed may exist afterward to provide local currency needs within the US (if it actually surivives; although, I'm quite sure another one will try to pop up as has been the case throughout history), but it's global power will have been diminished significantly.
Yes, I agree with your view, holdbuysell.
Excellent post as always Radical Marijuana.
I always laugh at libertarians who claim that the US Dollar is "backed by nothing". I also totally laughed at Rand Paul's claim that the Dollar is backed by used car loans and bad home loans. No. No. No.
You are right Radical Marijuana. The USD is backed by violence. The world must accept the 1s and 0s from the magickal printing press that the Federal Reserve runs or they will be bombed. Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya are recent examples. Iran has constant CIA and MI6 meddling, and North Korea is on the shit list and its a matter of time. The other major players like Russia and China accept because the nihilists who run this fraud system would rather have all out nuclear war than to have their magickal printing press stopped.
I used to think Joel Skousen's theories were out there but they are becoming more relevant with the recent Ukraine situation, and the 08/08/08 event in the Republic of Georgia. Skousen believes that if the US Dollar were to go down, the banksters will hide underground or offshore and set up the United States to lose a nuclear war on purpose. They could then blame the whole global economic collapse on the war killing hundreds of millions, and the assets of the United States would be essentially worthless because it would be an irradiated wasteland.
The world's players bite their lip and accept the fiat because its intrinsic value is another day of relative sanity compared to all out nuclear disaster.
9thDoctor, as you stated about thinking that "Joel Skousen's theories were out there but they are becoming more relevant," over and over again Zero Hedge has been running articles about how what used to be discounted as "conspiracy theories" are proven to have been facts. (Those infinite tunnels of deceits loop back on themselves when one recognizes that the popularization of the pejorative phrase "conspiracy theory" has become proven, as a fact, through declassified documents, to have been directed by the CIA to happen by their use of their mass media assets!)
As you also state, the clearest most recent example of the ways that the international bankers keep their systems going was when NATO bombed the shit out of Libya. The armed forces of NATO, and the USA especially do NOT protect freedom, but rather, protect the banksters' frauds. Those entrenched systems clearly are able and willing to risk world war with weapons of mass destruction, rather than lose the magical power to make "money" out of nothing, since that LEGALIZED COUNTERFEITING is the supreme achievement of triumphant organized crime controlling governments, which is what the Federal Reserve Board actually represents, which is why any genuine audit of that system would lead to its destruction.
However, the degree to which the established systems are based on the COMBINATION of ORGANIZED CRIME and CONTROLLED OPPOSITION, indicates that there appear to be no possible good solutions, since the real path we are on is towards self-destruction. The COMBINATION of the ruling classes being dishonest and violent AND those they rule over being ignorant and afraid, leaves little room for rational hopes that enough people will become less ignorant and less afraid, so that the banksters' systems could be significantly corrected from being almost totally based on enforced frauds, to being more based on radical truths.
In a word, consolidation. That is what every crisis is used for by these psychopaths.
it's true: money backed by murder and the threat of murder. and its mechanism is truly devilish. I'll sum it up in 3 words.
BABYLONIAN MONEY MAGICK
http://jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/the_babylonian_woe.pdf
The Bablyonian Woe
Rand and Ron Paul continue to be reactionary revolutionaries, because their bogus "solutions" tend to be based on the same old-fashioned false fundamental dichotomies and related impossible ideals, such as going backwards, to backing money with gold and silver again, which would implicitly be backed by the enforcement of the rule of law (while the fact that ability is based upon being able to murder those who resist being ruled and robbed in that way tends to be disregarded.)
While it's nice you state that with such absoluteness,
you do not provide any real hint what you believe would be a real (non-bogus) solution to that, except some nebulous "general energy systems concept."
I personally believe energy-centric goggles to be too statist, as it is simply not true that every increase in "value" is dependent on roughly the same size amount of energy. There is for sure always some energy needed for everything, but in most areas the energy amount involved is asymptotically getting smaller, with development/inventions.
(Also I'd derive that bitcoin etc. is money backed by nothing, as it is not covered by some rule of law.)
Overall we are talking about systems.
Systems can never be bettered or fixed by a single or a few good decisions, but only in a continuous process.
As long as a group much larger than majority doesn't care ("good enough"), nothing will really change.
malek, I will repeat and emphasize several times below how I connect my analysis of the problems presented by the Federal Reserve Board, with the dilemmas related to attempting to propose "solutions" which are consistent with that analysis. There are NO other genuine solutions than to continue to have to muddle through madness, since the real world is made by dynamic equilibria of organized systems of lies, operating robberies.
Of course, I am well aware of the social situation that, despite what I have stated above being the plainly obvious social facts, the vast majority of Zombie Sheeple do not want to understand those facts, because the small minority of Vicious Wolves have worked hard for many generations to make sure that the Zombie Sheeple do not want to understand.
It is the most interesting dilemma of our times that we have progress in science everywhere, even in the paradoxical manifestation of social sciences, because the oldest and best developed of social sciences was warfare, and the postmodernizing manifestation of that human history was what has created the current situation, where the Fraud Kings, the biggest banks, have controlled the government, to have legalized their crimes so much, for so long, that those Fraud Kings are now the new royalty, which are effectively above the law.
Of course, the Fraud Kings are not actually outside of the systems of natural law. They are still operating within the laws of nature, whereby they became the best at deceits, backed by destruction, so that they were enabled to legalize their lies, and have the entire society organized to back up those legalized lies with legalized violence. That runaway fascist plutocracy juggernaut is now so BIG, and so OUT OF CONTROL, that it is becoming more obvious to more people than ever before ...
In fact, the only genuine solutions must operate within the realities that there are, and must be, some combined money/murder systems, operating debt controls and death controls, as a necessarily interrelated whole system, which combines our understanding of political economy within human ecology. Such genuine solutions are never more than some continuing evolution of dynamic equilibria of organized systems of lies, operating organized robberies. Better government, applied to the banks, should be that!
The actual solutions to these social problems ought to be more scientific. However, that would require a set of axioms which the overwhelming majority of people do not want to understand. A more scientific understanding of how we ended up with a financial accounting system based on fraud, backed by force, has to focus on what the force did. Only such a view could understand these problems enough to provide systematic replacements and substitutions of sets of solutions, which would admit and addresses the deeper issues with respect to human ecology, as well as the emerging industrial ecology, and therefore, be able to develop those in ways which were consistent with the natural ecology.
What is happening in the world today is that more and more people are noticing how the established systems are on runaway exponential growth curves, and becoming more extremely unbalanced, and so, more unstable. However, the only genuine solutions are to continue to muddle through this madness, and attempt to develop ways to better balance the different systems of organized lies, operating organized robberies. The reasons "WHY" the monetary system is becoming so blatantly unbalanced is that money is backed by murder, while the vast majority of the Zombie Sheeple, and their bogus "leaders" do not want to understand that. However, it is NOT possible to have any better money system that is not based on a better murder system. Given that those real systems today are privatized and globalized fiat money frauds, operated electronically, backed up by threats of force from weapons of mass destruction, such as atomic bombs, the actual magnitude of these problems is so astronomically large as to be almost beyond comprehension.
There are no genuine solutions to the political economy problems which could work without being implemented inside of their actual human ecology context. That means that the central core concepts must be the death controls, appreciated scientifically, as systematic social facts. Of course, from a practical political point of view, it appears almost totally useless to point out such basic social facts. The established systems are almost totally dominated by the biggest bullies, and the vast majority of people have already been brainwashed to believe in the biggest bullies' bullshit social stories.
We have no choice but to continue to muddle through the madness of living inside a runaway fascist plutocracy, which has become an unbalanced juggernaut, which is most probably going to turn the majority of the people into its road kill. The best we can do is organized better systems of resistance, to change what the paths of least resistance are.
The best we can do is have systems of checks and balances, to stop the systems of organized lies and robberies from becoming too unbalanced. The problem is that that has broken down. The banksters are now getting away with more and more, faster and faster, while there is practically nothing anymore left to stop them, since they have become way too triumphant in taking control over governments.
"We the People" appear to have ALREADY lost. It is now way too easy to fool enough of the people enough of the time. There is only controlled opposition from the Black Sheep, who tend to tell the Zombie Sheeple that everyone needs to be better Sheep. I would suggest that we all need to learn to become better Wolves. However, that view is the fringe of the fringe of fringe. The deeper radical truths are nothing more than a Fringe Cubed recommendation, given the ACTUAL situation where 99% are effectively ALREADY Zombie Sheeple, who are already too brainwashed to believe in bullshit to be able to effectively understand and demand that "We the People" should control our own money system, rather than have given away the power to make "money" out of nothing to private banks. The established money-as-debt systems AUTOMATICALLY drive everyone into a vicious spiral of MORE "debt without consultation!"
To fully understand WHY that system developed requires seeing that money is backed by murder, and MUST BE. Therefore, the only way to democratize the debt controls would be to democratize the death controls. Since the vast majority of the Zombie Sheeple do not understand that, and do not want to understand that, one can most reasonably expect that the 1% who benefit from the ways that the powers of government were privatized WILL CONTINUE to be able to do so, more and more ...
The only apparent "correction" is the final failure from too much "success" at controlling the WHOLE civilization through triumphant Huge Lies. The whole world is being dominated by the best professional liars, and immaculate hypocrites. Inside that context, it is practically impossible, from any realistic political point of view, to stop the runaway fascist plutocracy juggernaut from turning most of the people into its road kill.
The problem is that the Radical Truth which is necessary is something which is about as unpopular as it could possibly be. ALL the established religions and ideologies are part of the systems of social robbery, including those which function as the controlled opposition. Actually, militarism is the supreme ideology. Actually, society is controlled by the people who are the best at being dishonest, and backing that up with violence. Actually, there are no genuine solutions other than to continue to muddle through that madness.
WE SHOULD APPROACH THESE PROBLEMS USING UNITARY MECHANISMS, INSTEAD OF THE OLD-FASHIONED FALSE FUNDAMENTAL DICHOTOMIES, AND THEIR RELATED IMPOSSIBLE IDEALS.
The deeper problem is that when one does a more scientific analysis of human civilization as an energy system, it becomes clearer how and why civilizations became the biggest form of organized crime, controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals. There are NO ways to stop that from happening. Instead, there are only possible ways to maybe muddle through that madness. We have extremely difficult problems because human ecology evolved through the history of warfare, based on the maximum possible deceits, which then enabled the financial system to be base on the maximum possible frauds. Furthermore, there are good scientific reasons for how and why that happen, and NO good scientific reasons to believe that could be stopped, but only that the dynamic equilibria of those things could be changed.
The mass media, and school systems have become almost totally fake education, and misinformation, which attempt to persuade people that organized crime, controlled by the best organized gang of criminals, which have been robbing the vast majority of people more and more, while transferring that wealth to a tiny minority, is somehow a good thing, done by good guys, that we should respect! Tragically, it is practically impossible to imagine how we could ever actually have a more scientific education, within a more scientific society, that respected basic energy laws, and how they worked, because the ways that those actually worked during human history created War Kings, and then Fraud Kings, who dominate a social pyramid system through lies, backed by violence. That IS consistent with energy laws, but is presented through ways which are extreme bullshit, promoted by the biggest bullies, by school systems and mass media which do their best to promote a Bizarro Mirror World, where the biggest criminals are regarded in totally backwards ways as being the "good guys."
Since money is measurement backed by murder, economics faces the irreducible problems of the LIMITS OF MEASUREMENT. That PROBLEM is profound, and mostly misunderstood. But nevertheless, other sciences manage to muddle through being relatively useful, as probabilistic statements, despite the correct theory that, due to the irreducible LIMITS TO MEASUREMENT, perfect prediction is always going to be absolutely impossible. In that context, a lot of the statements made in this article above, as well in many of the comments upon it, set up what I regard as various degrees of straw-man arguments, by advancing an obsolete notion of what "science" is, or can do, and then knocking down that straw-man view of "economics as a science."
The scientific enterprises are about
HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT WE KNOW?
and so,
HOW CONFIDENT OF WHAT WE KNOW?
Neither of those are diminished to nothing within the realm of economics, where both of those questions continue to be practically possible to ask, and to try to answer. Therefore, economics can be a "science," in those senses. However, it is clear that economics is in the midst of a profound paradigm shift, in the sense of Thomas Kuhn's structure of scientific revolutions, as more and more people are facing the fact that banksters making "money" out of nothing, as debts, is a fraud backed by the force of governments, and so, "economics" as the study of an energy system is a special case of the study of the principles and methods of organized crime. Energy systems are generally controlled by their most labile component, which in human systems are the most dishonest and violent people. Energy systems generally go on their path of least action, which in human systems is their path of least morality. Understanding that better might enable us to build better systems of resistance, than those failures which we have now, which continue to use false fundamental dichotomies, and related impossible ideals, rather than use unitary mechanisms, with the ideas of dynamic equilibria.
The study of organized crimes can be made relatively more scientific, especially when one eschews false fundamental dichotomies, and understands that government is merely the most successful form of organized crime, which is controlled by the best organized gang of criminals.
My view is that economics can only be a practical science to the degree that it is regarded as a general energy system, which is quite possible to do ... EXCEPT that the biggest bullies dominate civilization with their bullshit, and that domination includes the degree to which they were able to dominate the philosophy of science too!
The more deeply one studies postmodernizing science, the more of a creative convergence with ancient mysticism that makes. The infinite tunnels of deceits that deeper study of economics reveals are but tiny fractal aspects of those problems, to be found everywhere else one looks deeply enough ... However, we have barely begun to go through the possible processes of much deeper intellectual scientific revolutions, which apply to politics, and political economy.
My view is that we have no choice but to continue to muddle through the madness that the real world operates as the evolutionary ecologies of different systems of organized lies, operating robberies. We would be able to do that better if we stopped promoting ideologies in which governments either did not exist, or existed in idealized ways. I say that governments are necessarily on a continuum of unitary mechanisms of a range of different organized crimes. They always were, and they always will be. Better government is necessarily better organized crime. The best way to achieve that is through a greater use of information, enabling higher consciousness, in which more citizens understood that they were members of an organized crime gang, and therefore, were able to act more competently.
It is imperative for a technologically based society to go through intellectual scientific revolutions in order to be able to survive its own evolution. At present, we have things like atomic bombs, inside of a society which almost totally does not want to understand what the special theory of relativity is saying. The same applies throughout all the rest of our current urban barbarian world, which has developed globalized electronic fiat frauds, backed by atomic bombs, which are being channeled through social pyramid systems based on backing up lies with violence for thousands of years.
While it is obvious that system is becoming utterly rotten, because scientific technologies are primarily employed to be better at backing up lies with violence, however, that can not be improved without some social evolution (with episodes of re-evolution within that context) that develops radically different scientific understandings of how and why that happened. Human "individuals" are ancient ecologies. There are about 100 trillion cells, surviving through many generations. Each cell itself is another even more ancient ecology of organelles. The total genome of all the other organisms that live within and upon the individual is bigger than the genome of that individual's DNA itself. Human civilizations are even bigger ecologies, built with those previously existing components.
Human consciousness is an almost infinitesimal slice of the subconsciousness and supraconsciousness, of the ecological relationships that individuals were born embedded within. The paradoxical ways that our social pyramid systems work is that they require that the vast majority of people be kept ignorant and afraid, so that they can be controlled and exploited. Every effort is made by the ruling classes to try to keep those that they rule over unable to understand the basic principles of philosophy, or genuine spirituality. It was not an accident that most people are taught to believe in things which are almost the total diametrical opposite to the way things actually are.
There tends to be nothing wrong with the ideals of a democratic republic, operating through the rule of law. The problem is that the ruling classes have been able to brainwash almost everyone else to believe in bullshit which is backwards. Evolution naturally selects for dynamic equilibria to manifest. Human civilization is doing that, but tortuously at the present time, because the Grand Canyon Paradoxes of progress in sciences, but still inside of a society controlled by lies, are building up a head of steam of overwhelming cognitive dissonances, that are threatening to blow the lid off that system!
I axiomatically assert that governments are necessarily the biggest form or organized crime, controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals. I do NOT recommend that the solutions are to somehow stop that from happening, which I regard as impossible in the real world, (although, that is always TRUE, in the transcendental poetry versions of TRUTH.) Rather, I recommend a better arms race between the different social classes, so that more of the lower classes provide better organized resistance against being robbed by the systems set up by the ruling classes.
I favour a greater use of information, as an operational definition of higher consciousness, so that the social robbery systems are better balanced. I recommend retooling the fascist plutocracy, rather than attempting to arrest it, because retooling it appears possible, while simply stopping it seems impossible, unless human beings become extinct. I would like to see the social pyramid system become perceived as a toroidal vortex instead, with its top and bottom more consciously connected.
My view is that we have no choice but to have to muddle through the madness of the dynamic equilibria between different systems of organized lies operating robberies. That is what the political process IS, and must necessarily be. I repeat that I am attempting to apply the notions of an intellectual scientific revolution in the philosophy of science through the politics of a technologically based civilization. When I try to do that, the language that I generate to talk about things has been shaped by how I try to apply unitary mechanisms to understand what actually exists.
What actually exists are different gangs of organized criminals, the best organized of which get to call themselves governments, or to control those governments. In my view it is impossible that the real world could exist any other way. Therefore, better politics necessarily means better organized crime. More competent citizens use their own power to rob and to kill through the political processes. The existence of governments was ALREADY the assembling and channeling of the power to rob and to kill to become what governments actually are. Most people have lost track of the history whereby rights and freedoms were legally recognized, because there is no freedom without a force, and no right without a remedy. People have been forgetting what the real basis was for why we ended up with the ideals of a democratic republic and the rule of law. Those things have been inverted and perverted, at the same time as words like "money" had their meaning inverted and perverted.
The problems are that too many people were taught to be believe in bullshit, namely, false fundamental dichotomies and related impossible ideals, so that they did not understand that being a citizen meant that they were members of an organized crime gang. As incompetent citizens, they gradually allowed the operation of those crime gangs to get worse and worse, because their dynamic equilibria became more and more unbalanced, with runaway social polarization, and destruction of the natural world, both of which are the result of evil deliberate ignorance running amok! In my view, the only good solutions to those problems would require more people to learn to become better predators. In my view, anyone who can rob a robber is also a robber, and there are no ways out of that paradox, but to embrace it and go through that. Sovereignty is based on the power to rob. That power is something that everyone shares to some degree. Power is always distributed. However, it can be assembled and channeled. Theoretically, a democratic republic is supposed to assemble and channel the individual powers to rob through the rule of law into the collective governmental power to rob. That organized robbery is supposed to thereby become better than the otherwise disorganized robbery.
However, what actually happened was that the best organized gangs of criminals were able to apply the methods of organized crime to dominate the political processes, and thereby achieved the almost total privatization of the public powers to rob. That was especially manifested in the ways that private banks became legally allowed to make the public "money" supply out of nothing as debts, rather than have the public money supply be backed by gold and silver, whose value was set by Congress. Thus, the public power to control money was almost totally privatized, and that drove a runaway vicious spiral of symbolic social robbery, to get worse, faster, for about a Century. Therefore, my view is that after the best organized criminals, the biggest gangsters, the banksters, were able to capture control over the political processes, and thereby legalized themselves being able to counterfeit the public "money" supply, that became a runaway system of legalized robbery, backed by legalized murder, i.e., in America, institutions such as the Federal Reserve Board and the IRS.
The deeper problems that I try to discuss are that most of the people who go through the process of understanding that the banksters are criminals that have taken control over the government, then collapse back to the same old false fundamental dichotomies and related impossible ideals when they propose "solutions" to those problems.
On the other hand, I say that we have to rob the robbers back into better balance, which includes becoming more self-aware that then we too are robbers. Significant changes are going to actually mean the emergence of some new kind of ruling classes, which are supported by some new kinds of larger groups around them. I like to day dream about the emergence of a transnational scientific community, which will do that through a new kind of translithic civilization. That would all be based on applying to politics, through the military and monetary systems, as ways of understanding everything as operating as energy systems, which would include a radical critique of the concept of entropy, and the other areas where the philosophy of science has previously been a victim of the biggest bullies' bullshit social stories distorting perceptions.
My view is that we are being backed into a corner, where we should go through an intellectual scientific revolution, so that a radical critique of the concepts of general energy systems can be applied to politics, and especially to the monetary and military systems. We are being backed into a more and more dangerous position due to the PARADOX OF MILITARISM, which is behind why all the other "isms" tend to be merely different kinds of bullshit.
Governments "work" because the methods of organized crime "work."
Nothing else works, because nothing else but better organized crime can displace organized crime. The ONLY solutions are to continue to have to muddle through the madness of the dynamic equilibria of different systems of organized lies operating robberies. Better equilibria are theoretically possible. No systems of lies operating robberies is absolutely impossible. Since most of the controlled opposition proposes the impossible ideals that no systems of organized crime should exist at all, that always backfires in the real world, resulting in even more unbalanced and worse systems of organized lies, operating robberies.
Organized lies, operating robberies, "works" because those are the ONLY things that human beings ever actually do, after one defines them to be separate from their environment. As soon as we name human beings, then they must necessarily operate as robbers in their environment. Groups of human beings are necessarily gangs of robbers. Governments are the ways that groups of human beings have organized themselves. Better government is possible, as better organized crime, which may be better balanced. No government is NOT possible, and impossible ideals aimed at that goal always backfire badly, by enabling the worst forms of organized crime to triumph, at least in the shorter term.
To the degree that all beings share in the same flow of the same energy, they are all participating in that, where the principles of the conservation of energy, when considered more seriously, become equivalent in every way to how God was attempted to be thought about. However, to the degree that the biggest bullies' bullshit was able to dominate society, thus, the ways that most people were taught to think were as backwards as could possibly be. The most extreme symbol of that phenomenon was that an arbitrary minus sign was inserted into the entropy equations in thermodynamics and information theory, in order that the measurements of power and information would end up being positive numbers, instead of negative numbers. In my view the fundamental concept is SUBTRACTION, and, of course, our current civilization understands that in as backwards of ways as it possibly can, from which flows that we understand pretty well everything else in as backwards of ways as are possible.
PROFOUND PARADOXES HAVE PLENTY OF POLITICAL CONSEQUENCES.
Nobody actually guards the guardians. The paradoxes with respect to enforcing the rule of law have NO practical solutions which I am aware of being developed by anyone, since Plato's writings on The Republic articulated those problems. In my view, there are, in principle, NO solutions, other than to have to continue to muddle through the madness that the real world can never be anything else than some dynamic equilibria between different systems of organized lies, operating robberies. Instead, the systems that attempt to monopolize violence tend to end up being taken over by the worst possible guardians. In the real world, the legal system gets eventually captured by the the best organized gangs of criminals (if not originally created by their ancestors), who use bullshit "isms" to manipulate other people, with their controlled puppet shows. Tragically, in my view, there is no escape from the situation that governments are the biggest form of organized crime, controlled by the best organized gang of criminals.
I think that everyone has some power to rob, and power to kill to back up that power to rob. Politics is about assembling and channeling that power, as was done through the history of warfare, out of which emerged the War Kings, which created sovereign states, which then ended up being dominated by the best organized criminals, the Fraud Kings, or the banksters, and the big corporations that grew up around those banksters' systems, as a growing spiral of bigger legalized lies, backed by more legalized violence. Indeed, even the existence of such corporations as "persons" was itself a classic case of "legal fictions" which was a euphemism for legalized lies.
As far as I can tell, there has never been, and will never be, anything better than have to muddle through the madness of combined money/murder systems operated through the deceits and frauds. Ideally, more people understanding that better could enable there to be better overall dynamic equilibria between the different systems of organized lies operating robberies. However, we have clearly been headed in the opposite direction for quite some time, whereby the biggest gangsters, the banksters, have been successfully brainwashing more people to believe in bullshit, (such as all the superficial "isms" that are used to trick and manipulate them.)
There are no other realistic solutions than have to muddle through the madness of different systems of organized lies operating robberies, which may develop dynamic equilibria between themselves. Everyone has some power to rob, and power to kill to back that up. Governments were historical ways that those powers to rob were assembled and channeled. Those who recommend "no government" are spouting impossible ideals, which are bullshit that actually makes the opposite happen in the real world. One of the reasons why the social rates of robbery have come so extremely unbalanced is that the opposition groups have become almost completely controlled, so that their "solutions" are always impossible bullshit ideals.
Too many citizens have been successfully brainwashed to become incompetent political idiots that do not want to understand that they are members of an organized crime gang, called their country. That has been in a vicious spiral with the best organized gangs of criminals being able to capture control over the powers of governments. The results have been that the school systems and mass media brainwashed people to believe in bullshit, while the controlled opposition groups present some better analysis of the problems, but then collapse back to presenting bullshit "solutions" based on the same old-fashioned false fundamental dichotomies and related impossible ideals, which have been backfiring badly for thousands and thousands of years.
Zero Hedge articles and comments are full of goofballs promoting impossible ideals as the "solutions" to the real problems, as is totally typical in our kind of society. One of the main reasons why We the People dismally fail to stop the best organized gang of criminals continuing to control the government is that almost all the alleged "opposition" is also controlled by them too. That video linked above was a relatively recent example of the general pattern of a presentation which is 90% good analysis, following by 10% bullshit "solutions." HOWEVER, NONE OF THE PROPOSED "SOLUTIONS" ACTUALLY ADDRESS THE REAL PROBLEM, WHICH IS THAT MONEY IS NECESSARILY MEASUREMENT BACKED BY MURDER. Human realities are always organized lies operating robberies. Private property does not exist outside of some system of public violence. All private property is based on claims backed by coercions, with money being the most abstract way that works.
A democratic republic operating through the rule of law is the best theory regarding how to cope with the fact that everybody has some power to rob, with the ultimate form of the power to rob being the power to kill. The basic problem has been the prolonged success of the best organized gangs of criminals being able to apply the methods of organized crime to capture control over the government, which in turn enabled the runaway feedback of turning enough of "We the People" into Zombie Sheeple that were conditioned to not want to understand how the monetary and taxation systems worked. Meanwhile, almost all the controlled opposition groups who claim to be against the established systems continue to promote bullshit "solutions," which have never worked previously, because they are staying inside of the biggest bullies' bullshit world view. I am not aware of any significant opposition group which does not follow the general pattern of making presentations which are about 90% good analysis of the problems, followed by 10% bullshit "solutions," because their "solutions" continue to be based on the same old-fashioned false fundamental dichotomies, and related impossible ideals, which always actually make the opposite happen in the real world.
The genuine source for a better political revolution should be an intellectual scientific revolution, to understand human civilization as energy system. However, doing that means that there can be no more fundamental dichotomies, and therefore, no more "solutions" based on realizing impossible ideals.
We are stuck having to muddle through the madness of society controlled by different systems of organized lies operating robberies, in which situation the basic facts are not understood by the vast majority of people. The muddled messages are due to the necessary death controls, backing up the debt controls, being operated through the maximum possible deceits, and frauds, in which situation the controlled opposition is NOT providing any genuine resistance, because that opposition is dominated by reactionary revolutionaries, whose responses are not to provide better death controls, to back up better debt controls, but rather tend to promote the impossible ideals that there ought to be no death controls, which actually enables to the opposite to happen, which are that the real death controls continue to be done through the maximum possible deceits.
BY DEFINITION, THE CRUCIAL CONTROLS ARE THE DEATH CONTROLS, WHICH DO AND MUST NECESSARILY EXIST. However, the history of civilization was to develop the actual death controls to be done through the maximum possible deceits, while the controlled opposition groups did not provide better death controls, but rather operated through bullshit that there should not be any death controls. The combination of the existing death controls actually being done through the maximum possible deceits, only significantly opposed by controlled opposition groups that promote various impossible ideals regarding death controls, that always backfire and cause the opposite to happen in the real world, means that the overall established systems are runaway out of control systems!
The results of that are young people have the most good reasons to say "screw you" to the established systems. The younger you are, the more you are being lied to, cheated and robbed by the political system you were born into, since that system was based on maximizing the shorter terms benefits for those who were operating the enforced frauds, while the longer term costs were simultaneously being maximized for future generations. Future generations have been set up to have to pay for the consequences of runaway systems of debt slavery, backed by wars based on deceits, driving numbers which become debt insanities, which provoke death insanity situations. The basic problems are the double whammy that there MUST be death controls, while those MUST have developed to be done through the maximum possible deceits. Theoretically, the only better resolutions of the real problems would require better death controls, being done through greater use of information, enabling those to be done with higher consciousness. However, in the real world, the established systems continue to operate the actual death controls through the maximum possible deceits, while their controlled opposition never provides realistically better systems of death controls, but rather, continues to promote impossible ideals regarding those death controls, which continue to cause the opposite to happen in the real world.
At the present time, from plagues to wars, and everywhere in between, the same basic problems are manifesting, that the central controls in human ecology MUST be the death controls, which history MUST have developed to be done through the maximum possible deceits, while the central controls in the political economy MUST be the debt controls, which history MUST have developed to be done through the maximum possible frauds.
It is practically impossible to have any better political debates in the public spaces because BOTH the established systems, AND their controlled opposition groups, operate within the same bullshit frame of reference which operates the combined murder/murder systems through the maximum possible deceits and frauds, including that all the most significant public opposition groups promote the most extreme forms of that kind of bullshit, by promoting the impossible ideals that there should not be any consciously operated death controls, to back up the debt controls.
Government MUST be the biggest form of organized crime, and those MUST be controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals. However, everything that would provide for that to be done better, through the rule of law, operating checks and balances, has been systematically broken down by the history of the ruling classes too successfully waging wars against the consciousness and understanding of those they ruled over, so that the vast majority of "We the People" have been reduced to "Zombie Sheeple.
Almost all the opposition groups are dominated by reactionary revolutionaries, or what I call the "Black Sheeple," who try to lead the Zombie Sheeple to become better Sheeple. The opposition groups continue to operate in the same frame of reference of old-fashioned false fundamental dichotomies, and their related impossible ideals, which necessarily continue to actually make the opposite happen in the real world.
The essential problem is that that the prolonged social successes of operating the real death controls through the maximum possible deceits has developed a social situation where the vast majority of people do not understand that, because they have been conditioned to not want to understand that. Therefore, the realistically possible operation of a democratic republic through the rule of law has been reduced to runaway criminal insanities, with no reasonable prospects but for that to get worse, faster!
Real, radical revolution would have to do things like return control over the public money supply to "We the People." However, the degree to which most of the People have been reduced to Zombie Sheeple makes that practically impossible, especially since almost all the opposition groups are nothing more than Black Sheeple. Realistically better resolutions of the problems with our currently criminally insane forms of human ecology and political economy should be more scientifically based upon rational evidence and logical arguments, EXCEPT that is practically impossible inside of a political situation which is almost totally dominated by professional liars and immaculate hypocrites, throughout BOTH the ruling classes running the established systems, AND their controlled opposition groups.
I do not believe that we have any other chances, but to have to continue to muddle through the madness of the dynamic equilibria of different systems of organized lies operating robberies. However, I do believe that we are going to be forced to go through some drastic changes of state in that respect, and that could be catalyzed better IF enough people understood better how and why that was happening. As the established systems automatically get more screwed up, more people will be forced out of their comfort zone of habitual ways of thinking. When people are frustrated by their habits being impeded, then they will be forced to start thinking more. At that point, perhaps, more of them will start to question the language that they were using, that was controlling their minds?
The great ironies of the human condition are innate to the issue of a being that can build a mental model of its world, with a model of itself inside of its model of the world. Since natural selection always existed, that drove the development of intelligence and systems of artificial selection.
The basic realities of monkeys and apes are still HERE. However, we have developed electronic monkey money frauds, backed by apes who can threaten to enforce those frauds with atomic bombs: MAD Money As Debt, backed by MAD Mutual Assured Destruction. The prolonged triumphs of the biggest bullies' bullshit social stories so totally dominates civilization that there is barely any coherent opposition to that, but rather, only various kinds of controlled opposition, promoting their preferred kinds of impossible ideals.
What I am saying is that we have no choice but to continue to muddle through the MADNESS of the world operating according to the methods of organized crime, in which the only things that exist are the dynamic equilibria of different systems of more or less organized lies operating robberies. The problems are that those who were the best at being dishonest and backing that up with violence became the wealthy and politically powerful people, while most of their opposition has adapted to operate within those systems, while continuing to promote the same sorts of false fundamental dichotomies, and related impossible ideals, as the basis for bogus "solutions" to those problems, which continue to actually make the opposite happen in the real world.
The ONLY realities are that human beings operate as entropic pumps of energy, which means all human realities are always organized lies operating robberies. There has never been, and can never be, any other connection between the laws of men, and the laws of nature, than the ability to back up lies with violence. To make that way worse, those who were the best at doing that were able to dominate society so much that practically everyone was brainwashed to believe bullshit stories about that, and to want to promote more bullshit stories about that, as their preferred ways to resolve the issues driven by the deep paradoxes inherent in the Catch 22 double-bind, which is that backing up lies with violence never makes those lies stop being false, which therefore drives society to automatically become more psychotic.
The central banking system is based on ENFORCED FRAUDS, which exemplify everything that I have written above, as well as were touched upon in the article above. Of course, the superficially faith-based money system is an absurd State Religion, which is more obviously becoming a crazy cult, because IT WAS ALWAYS BASED ON THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE FRAUDS, WHICH NEVER MADE THOSE FRAUDS STOP BEING FALSE! There is no easy way out of that situation. It is not possible to abolish governments, because it is not possible to stop there being robbery, with murder as the most extreme form of robbery, that backs up all lesser forms of robbery. The only things which are possible are the rise and fall of different systems of organized lies operating those robberies.
One is born into some period in those historical spirals ... By and large, most articles on Zero Hedge provide relatively good analysis of the problems, followed by collapsing to bullshit "solutions" which are not consistent with their previous analysis. Furthermore, most comments there do that even more so! Of course, that is quite understandable, since society is based on belief in the biggest bullies' bullshit, which exists due to the history of those absurd lies being sufficiently enforced, generation after generation, so that the majority of people operate inside of that bullshit frame of reference, while taking that so totally for granted that they are mostly not aware they are doing that!
The deeper layers of that Catch 22 situation are that there is practically no political point to more radical truths, as long as the majority of people still believe in bullshit, and want to continue to believe in bullshit. What exists are the spirals of combined money/murder system, where the murder systems back up the money systems, which pay for the murder systems in return. Furthermore, everyone MUST live through some system of organized lies operating robberies, and proportionately benefit to the degree that they are successfully able to do that. However, in order to do that, they have to operate as professional liars and immaculate hypocrites, who continue to promote the bullshit world views that enable the systems of enforced frauds to continue to be socially successful, despite that those systems constantly become crazier and crazier, due to the essential nature of the Catch 22 double-bind paradox, that backing up lies with violence can make those lies socially successful, but never stop those from still being lies, and therefore, that society overall constantly becomes more psychotically out of touch with any more relatively objective reality, precisely to the degree that it continues to be able to amplify its social systems of enforced frauds.
not so much "best solutions" as "best responses"
As others elsewhere have speculated, the impetus to these spirals is so innate to the properties of biology that this same species drive to mass extinction may have played out an infinite number of times in infinite time and space, each time leaving no trace.
Your posts in this entry suggest that you may have seen the below comment, but in case not --
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-03/ask-expert-%E2%80%93-rob-kirby-...
Only such a view could understand these problems enough to provide systematic replacements and substitutions of sets of solutions, which would admit and addresses the deeper issues
Nope.
Some humbleness would be in order.
4th Turning wrote something along the lines: "the Baby Boomer generation never encountered an additional law they didn't like" (which doesn't make it all their fault, they were just doing their part in the cyclical unraveling)
Darwin comes to mind "...but the ones most adaptive to change!"
runaway exponential growth curves
Many "thinkers" have been conditioned to set exponential curves equal to disaster. That's bullshit. Human population growth is already flattening, and that without any "help" by starvation or mass war casualties.
Purely man-made systems (such as the monetary system) can be run in a way to disable all the feedback loops, so it finally blows up in one big bang, luckily in nature-made systems we cannot disable all the countless feedback loops.
the only genuine solutions are to continue to muddle through this madness
I wouldn't count that as a "solution", especially as it basically says "carry on."
As I had written before to you, you actually want to support more competition between crime syndicates. What to do to promote from inside a crime syndicate is the question.
backed up by threats of force from weapons of mass destruction, such as atomic bombs
Ahem, I don't think "backed by murder" is MORE effective if many untargeted people die as well...
the central core concepts must be the death controls, appreciated scientifically
BS, and the road to scientific totalitarianism/fascism.
Watch "I Robot" for example
to change what the paths of least resistance are.
Very well put!
systems of checks and balances, to stop the systems of organized lies and robberies from becoming too unbalanced
Misses the point again. Every efficient system of checks and balances becomes the main target of the system-gamers and liars/robbers. Sooner or later they will subvert it, if only in Orwellian manner by redefining the word's meanings in which those checks and balance rules were written.
Which brings us back to Darwin.
A system, actually any system can either be changeable, then it can be subverted by changing the rules in a nefarious way,
or fixed, then it cannot even react anymore to subversion attempts which one day will succeed.
So longer term a system can only work if it's changeable and the vast majority understands and supports/promotes the intentions for which the system was originally designed and therefore disallows obvious abuse.
It is now way too easy to fool enough of the people enough of the time.
I wouldn't call it fooling anymore. Most people these days cling to the lies to avoid utter despair as the truth would at the same time make their pension "entitlements" disappear, for example.
Therefore, the only way to democratize the debt controls would be to democratize the death controls.
Democracy itself is not a long-term solution to anything. So why would anybody want democratized death controls.
it is practically impossible [...] to stop the runaway fascist plutocracy juggernaut from turning most of the people into its road kill.
That is kind of cyclical reasoning. TPTB could have turned most of the people into its road kill for a long time now, but didn't.
the Radical Truth which is necessary
Sure about that?
From a higher perspective, Christianity told the people a set of total lies ("some higher authority demands you to act ethical, if you do you will go to heaven after your death, i.e. be richly rewarded"), and they may have been more successful in reaching certain goals than any Truth might have ever been...
SHOULD APPROACH THESE PROBLEMS USING UNITARY MECHANISMS
No we shouldn't.
Or do I misunderstand your statement? A unitary approach, when there are multiple approaches possible, comes back to the unsolvable riddle who should decide which is THE unitary approach to select.
build better systems of resistance
If you go purely from an energy perspective, if the path of least action ("least resistance") is the path of least morality, then it is by definition impossible to build resistance into that "energy system" to seek that least energy state or transition.
Ethics somewhat defy those "energy system's" rules however.
postmodernizing science
Anybody who uses words to ignore history and redefine his own views from scratch by using NEO-x or POST-y words has me very skeptic from the onset.
Science is everything that can be challenged and hopefully reproduced using Scientific Method.
Anything outside is NOT science, even if it has a fixed set of rules but unfortunately the same set of starting parameters can never be recreated (close enough) for the experiment, or it can't be passively re-observed within a sensible time-frame.
enabling higher consciousness, in which more citizens understood that they were members of an organized crime gang, and therefore, were able to act more competently.
And this will lead to more ethical behavior, at least in the long run? (as at least everybody understand the biggest bullies/liars are their leaders)
And that doesn't even touch on the question if everybody, or at least the vast majority, is ABLE to reach that state of higher consciousness.
require that the vast majority of people be kept ignorant and afraid, so that they can be controlled and exploited.
It's worse.
What would happen if everybody became aware? Likely soon after there would be genocides until humans were reduced to a number where each could safely ignore all others, outside his clan.
(And that's NOT because of resource scarceness or similar.)
Paradoxes of progress in sciences, but still inside of a society controlled by lies --> CogDis
Why is scientific progress, in society as it is, a paradox?
The "information revolution" has enabled TPTB to spread more lies to more people quicker than ever before, and suppress opposition softer and less visible than ever before... to name just one example.
What actually exists are different gangs of organized criminals...
Your 2 paragraphs starting with that line are perfectly to the point.
Maybe all my reservations above are all slight misunderstandings.
I believe the concept of Entropy to be an impossible ideal.
It only applies to closed systems (which we in prctical reality don't have), and the larger the system is that one wants to approximate as being "closed" (such as the solar system), the longer the time frame until Entropy becomes meaningful (billions of years in that case).
Without knowing the entropy formula by heart (or bothering to look it up), if it's a plus or minus sign in it only redefines what the "normal" state of ORDER is: perfectly mixed/dispersed or totally separated?
that the opposition groups have become almost completely controlled
There is your scientific progress!
So it all boils down to the question:
What to do to promote more competition between crime syndicates.
It seems the only option would be to try to start one / partake in an upcoming one yourself.
Sidenote:
Funnily you are repeating explanations later in your tomb of writing.
Is that copy&paste, are you using macros/textblocks, or are you a goading bot by some three-letter agency that tripped up a bit in its program? Well that's not going to work on me :-)
Good points, malek! Thanks for taking the time to reply.
When the correct point made by Darwin comes to mind "...but the ones most adaptive to change," the kicker to that line is that those who do not adapt are those who do not survive. Thus the questions are what kind of "UNITS OF SURVIVAL" are we talking about that may adapt, or may not survive?
Perhaps it is the entire human species that is collectively committing suicide?
Perhaps is it the potential for some future technological civilization that is committing suicide?
At present, the ways that human civilization is controlled by systems of enforced frauds (i.e., the banksters dominate almost every country, in order to be able to operate fraudulent accounting systems, which maximize the short-term benefits for a few, while simultaneously being able to deliberately ignore the longer term costs for everyone) are driving that kind of human civilization based on being able to successfully back up lies with violence to become more criminally insane, the more successful its ability to back up lies with violence becomes, since that kind of social "success" never stops those lies being false, but rather, that kind of "success" results in that civilization becoming more psychotic!
malek, you allowed that: "Maybe all my reservations above are all slight misunderstandings." Much of the language that I use is an attempt to morph the biggest bullies' bullshit, as encoded into English, into something different. That transformation of my use of the English language is a difficult balancing act, between the ways that most people automatically interpret words and phrases, versus how I am attempting to change the meanings being conveyed.
Unfortunately, we probably do not have the time and energy to complete the prolonged processes it would take to try to better understand each other. This Zero Hedge thread will soon be buried in its archives, and so, mostly no longer paid any attention ... Indeed, you may well never read this reply, and therefore, I will not go on to detail any more responses to the good points you raised in your reply above ...
Sidenote:
I generated my response above by going through my forum thread:
Some Monetary System articles.
using the search string "muddle through" ...
Then I copied and pasted those resulting paragraphs where there were "hits," and edited that down to the resulting reply above.
Since there are no good reasons to expect that 99% + of the People are going to STOP mostly behaving like political idiots, who do not have the time and/or interest to learn about how the monetary and taxation systems really work (in ways which are totally screwing them, and their children, and children's children even worse) THERE ARE NO PRACTICAL SOLUTIONS, but to muddle through the madness, that the real world is almost totally controlled by systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, whose structure automatically becomes overall more criminally insane.
Over and over, around and around, again and again, the more "successfully" those systems are able to continue to enforce those frauds, in ways whereby the leverage of money over the FUNDING OF THE POLITICAL PROCESSES guarantees that it is politically NOT possible to fix the problems, since those who benefit the most from the established systems of enforced frauds have every advantage to continue to do that, while those who are screwed by those systems of enforced frauds have every disadvantage to try to change anything currently operating within those entrenched systems.
I have worked on that problem for several decades, and I continue to do so at the present time through Canadian Electoral District Associations ... HOWEVER, the only thing that I have consistently discovered and demonstrated thereby is that THE MORE ONE KNOWS, THE WORSE IT GETS!
As you concluded, malek:
"What to do to promote more competition between crime syndicates?
It seems the only option would be to try to start one / partake in an upcoming one yourself."
By far the biggest "organized crime gang" which is literally a crime gang, is the global cannabis community, who have been deliberately breaking the marijuana laws for decades, since the majority of the "war on drugs" was the war on marijuana.
Marijuana laws are the single simplest symbol, and the most extreme particular example, of the general pattern of social facts that society is controlled by Huge Lies, backed by Lots of Violence. Therefore, I have ended up operating through those ways. (Although I originally got to do that through being concerned about the combined money/murder systems.) The ways that marijuana was an innocent and good plant, that was thrown into the chipper of the money/murder machines, has resulted in my doing what I am currently doing ...
ALTHOUGH THAT ONLY CONTINUES TO PROVE THAT REAL POLITICS IS ALMOST NOTHING BUT ORGANIZED CRIME AND CONTROLLED OPPOSITION, in which context the mainstream morons in the "legalize marijuana movements" are reactionary revolutionaries that I do not want to associate with ... while their willingness to be politically practical, by compromising with the old Huge Lies, has directed their campaigns to "legalized marijuana" into dead-ends, since those are ending up being microcosms of the BASIC PROBLEM OF THE FUNDING OF THE POLITICAL PROCESSES, FRACTALLY REPEATING!
Read it.
into dead-ends, since those are ending up being microcosms of the BASIC PROBLEM OF THE FUNDING OF THE POLITICAL PROCESSES, FRACTALLY REPEATING!
Nicely said.
And if you think it all the way through, life itself is pattern duplication, along energy gradients.
Bitcoin might not have a backing but it is 100% worthless without energy to power the systems it relies on, unless you are going to trade bitcoin using scraps of paper... kinda like dollars.
Radical: Your post is too long. Could you save me the trouble reading it and tell me what money "should be" (i.e. how it comes into being)? That should only take one sentence.
The issuance of government debt.
Edit: Real Money = Medium of Exchange, Unit of account, Durable, Divisable, Portable, Fungible, and a long term Store of Value.
FRN = All but a long term Store of Value.
It was a two part question.
Part 2 was: How does money come into being (in the normative sense ... not the descriptive sense)?
I could add a part 3:
Once it comes into being, does it ever go out of being?
The original American money was supposed to be backed by gold and silver, whose value was set by Congress, while Congress had enacted a law that to debase that money was punishable by death. (As laid out in the original Coinage Acts in the 1790s.)
That was the original idea of real money, whose value was set and backed by the power of the People. That real money was based on the conservation of matter, in the form of gold and silver, which could not be created out of nothing. The measurement of that real money was backed by the People, through Congress, since the measurement of that gold and silver was backed by the death penalty for those who defrauded or debased those measurements.
Ideally, the public money supply should be controlled by the People, in as universally fair a way as possible. In fact, the international bankers were able to corrupt those systems step by step, until the realities were pretty well totally backwards to the ideals. The Federal Reserve Board is controlled by private banks, who are the insiders to their debt slavery systems, or the enforced frauds, which rob almost everyone, and transfer that to the oligarchs which are the insiders of the fascist plutocracy system, where the greatest "wealth" of those plutocrats is their ability to legally counterfeit the public "money" supply, while governments enforce those frauds.
More ideal money would require greater use of information, enabling higher consciousness amongst more people. Money as a medium of exchange is a first approximation towards that ideal, however, to be consistent that has to include human ecology, surrounding the political economy, because biological reproduction should be included in the general understanding of production. Furthermore, a comprehensive medium of exchange ought to address the paradox that the production of destruction controls production.
That is why I say that the definition of money as measurement backed by murder is one that most includes all the facts, while money as a medium of exchange is not sufficient, unless it includes exchange of biological reproductions, and biological deaths, into the overall context of what is really being exchanged in the bigger picture. A better medium of exchange could facilitate better free market capitalism. However, that is not possible as long as that means of exchange does not address the problems of fraud and murder, which have actually taken control of the existing public "money" or medium of exchange, because the majority of people have been brainwashed to believe in bullshit about that, and conditioned to not want to learn more of the radical truths about that.
Radical Marijuana: Do you really think someone (the people?) tasked with "originating money" (and setting its value) would have the first clue about what to do after reading what you've written?
Theoretically, YES.
In practice, Nope!
There is no reasonable hope that the current combined money/murder systems, in which the death controls are done through the maximum possible deceits, and the debt controls are done through the maximum possible frauds, are going to be able and willing to face more of the radical truths about themselves. But nevertheless, that is what is theoretically necessary.
Money should be consistent with the understanding of general energy systems, although doing that takes a series of intellectual scientific revolutions. BUT, money is measurement backed by murder, which is actually being done NOW through the maximum possible frauds and deceits.
We should fix those problems. However, we probably will not, which is why I have concluded that our society appears to have become too terminally sick and insane to be able to recover. The BIG PROBLEM is how to operate death controls after the development of weapons of mass destruction, while the current systems of military power are backing up the banksters' frauds, which automatically become worse, faster ... Debt slavery generating debt insanities, which provoke death insanities, is the most probable future path.
Fed going mainstream as an evil-doer.
Good thing, as just as the people figure out how they've been ripped off by the Fed and as they are melting down into a crisis blamed on the Fed, there will be a white knight waiting in the wings to save them:
The BIS, IMF, and the SDR.
Gotta love that Hegelian Dialectic.
yes, and the greek dilemma at the moment shows how a people--not just the greeks, of course--trained to kill for money and die for money will do anything for more of it. SDRs? sure. as long as everyone else values them, so will I.
Tell Paul that if you get rid of the FED you get rid of the debt because ain't a living creature going to pay that trash back.
Arrest Lloyd Blankfein and Jamie Dimon.
I think the verdict it still out on Rand and no ons is really sure what to believe about him. He definitelty has some fire under him and speaks what we need/should hear but there have been several mentions of him being a sellout to the zios. I don't really know what to think but i thoroughly enjoyed him ripping the living fuck out of a cnbc host the other day who was "making stuff up" as he said. He went off on her ass and it was pretty refreshing. He also blasted the entire media and went off on a rant about how the media lies, turns and twists things. But like i said, i don't think we really know what to think of Rand. It'll be interesting to see what happens if EUR completely collapses before next election. Maybe that'll gain support for him. Just don't know yet but it'll be interesting to watch. No matter who he really is, could he be any worse than Hillary?
>>>>[Rand Paul] definitely has some fire under him and speaks what we need/should hear but there have been several mentions of him being a sellout to the zios.
My take on the Rand's zionist shtick is that he has no real interest in Israel per se, he just doesn't want to spend his limited time and energy defending himself from charges of anti-semitism; once the US media sticks that label on you, your career in Amurican "public life" becomes a world of pain.
Rand also backed down from his initially expressed skepticism re the "public accomodation" provisions of the Civil Rights Act of 1964; some battles, however principled they may be, are not worth the political capital, and Rand doesn't really have all that much political capital (compared to, say, a Bushie).
So, you put on a borrowed skullcap and do a photo-op at the wailing wall, just like all the (other) schmucks....
Rand or Hillary?
The lesser of 2 evils is Rand, not even close.
Elizabeth Warren or Rand......Hillary, the dried up prune should be in a nursing home
yes, in a bisexual nersing home.
just bring up the fact that most Jews are not "semitic" and youre out of shooting range......the "chosenites" cant use it anymore to whine or deflect proper criticism
my problem with him (one of them, anyway, I have several..) is that ALL he had to do was stick with "no foreign aid, to anyone, no exceptions". He was right when he said it, and i liked that. Then people start in with 'what about isreal' and all of that, and he takes it back. Don't even have to mention Isreal, Palestine, or Gaza, or any of that shit, just say, 'no foriegn aid, no exceptions' and don't let it be about isreal. Im nt trying to start the whole 'US is controlled by isreal' thing again, but it really says a lot about this country when the majority of republicans are on board with no foreign aid, as long as an exception is made for poor little defenseless Isreal. And that opinion is so strong that you can't even get through your parties nomination process unless you support giving them billions of dollars a year
His Dad never made the trip to the Wailing Wall even once. His Dad never had the slightest chance.
Impeach all 535 morons + ICiC now
CONgress has a 10% approval rating to America- consider them impeached-they just dont know it yet, even Oblama has a higher rating oddly enough
The bully pulpit vs a chicken coop? Of course.
Was his attack blistering, or "blistering"?
Were cries of pain heard from the FED?
blustering...
As Brian Wiliams is ,y witness I wswear to god she iwas 13!!!!
And war.
The reason all Central Banks exist is because of bank runs and their role in creating a national currency.
In the US lots of banks used to issue their own currency, this is the stuff of tin pot nations that are not going to do well in the international arena.
Their role in stopping bank runs is necessary because of fractional reserve banking.
Banks never have enough money to cover all the deposits and if a lot of people want to withdraw their money at once the bank will go under, wiping out all deposits and setting off a chain reaction through the banking system.
It does have a purpose but since 1999 has gone over and above its remit by trying to stop Capitalism from working at all.
It is trying to stop recessions from happening and keep bad banks afloat.
Recessions are the mechanism where bad debt and old inefficient and incompetent companies are removed from the system.
With Central Banks stopping the recessions after the dot.com bust and 2008, the system is now loaded up with bad debt and bad banks.
The FEDs function is to stop bank runs, but once the initial crisis is over the insolvent banks should be wound up in an orderly manner.
In a Capitalist system all of Wall Street's investment banks would have gone under in 2008, they should have been helped initially but then wound up.
The FED just needs to go back to what it was supposed to do, it does have a purpose.
Fractional Reserve Banking is a fraud on the people of this nation. It only expands the money supply, diluting the currency. For hundreds of years, gold has brought stability, period. This present system is nothing more than a con job, we know who profits from it, and it isn't the people.
True, the positive money web-site gives an alternative.
But you still need one institution to issue a national currency.
"But you still need one institution to issue a national currency."
Why?
Please explain why just one institution and why you infer it be a Central Bank? Have you read The Constitution? EVERYTHING The Fed does is unconstitutional.
Plaese xplain how if competition is appropriate in every other part of our society, why is it not beneficial in money? Or currency or whateber semantic take you prefer.
Probably because you are a Friedman monetarist who is an apologist for the flying contraption of floating currencies Uncle Milt gave the parasite banker world that in turn gave us the international gambling parlour of FX and various carry trades all which produce exactly NOTHING and are but phamtom wealth.
so many talk of currency namely the FRN..study the short history of USA, we have had : gold silver copper coins some from other countries, we have had private banks issue of currency for alot of our history, then the treasury notes, gold certs and silvercerts w/o the Fed Oh my god can you believe it no central bank.. in 1913 came the FED and by chance the Income tax..
The FEd is a private bank and can issue what it pleases.
The government is constitutionally responsibe to coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures.
Congress is no where allowed to delegate it's constitutional responsibilities nor to pass law that in effect modifies the Constitution whether it be the money or war making legislation.
The Constitution does not prohibit competing currencies and thus no law is required as Ron Paul has suggested. The Constitution does not indicate gov is the only entity which can coin money. States and private banks coined money for many years until after the unCivil War. The bank runs were in fact caused by the same people that created the Bank.
That said,,, we had our chance a few years back with the Liberty Dollar which was as close to constitutional as you could get BUT.... Mr. Von Nauthoss was summarily convicted on trumped up counterfeiting charges. The man stood for our constitution but not one of the glorious competing currency or constitutional currency advocates showed up at his trial, that I am aware of... Not even Ron Paul whom Mr Von Nauthaus made a special coin in Ron Pauls image. There were no protests, no marches and we let the man go down in his lonely ship. Not only that, All the gold and silver was confiscated by the government with nary a peep from the Alex Jones and Ron / Rand Pauls of the nation. They even took his Mothers silver which was given to her by him. Thankfully the Judge forced the govgoons to return her metal but still have everyone elses.
So, you will have to excuse me when I show no pity for the Lemmings in this country where the Bank is concerned... We had our chance and blew it.
I am just reading "All The Presidents Bankers".
What you describe is what existed before the FED.
Different currencies produced by different banks and international trade had to be carried out in Pounds Sterling.
On the international stage you need one currency, and one institution that controls it.
The splitting of one stock exchange into many gave HFT traders the opportunity to front run trades between exchanges with fast direct fibre optic links.
This has made things worse not better.
How "should" money come into being?
By the sweat of ones brow.