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Europe Fractures: France Pivots To Putin, Cyprus Offers Moscow Military Base, Germany-US Splinter On Ukraine
Following yesterday's summary of the utter farce that the Minsk Summit/Ukraine "peace" deal talks have become, the various parties involved appear to be fracturing even faster today. The headlines are coming thick and fast but most prescient appears to be: Despite John Kerry's denial of any split between Germany and US over arms deliveries to Ukraine, German Foreign Minister Steinmeier slammed Washington's strategy for being "not just risky but counterproductive." But perhaps most significantly is France's continued apparent pivot towards Russia... Following Francois Hollande's calls for greater autonomy for Eastern Ukraine, former French President Nicolas Sarkozy has come out in apparent support of Russia (and specifically against the US), "we are part of a common civilization with Russia,” adding, "the interests of the Americans with the Russians are not the interests of Europe and Russia." Even NATO appears to have given up hope of peace as Stoltenberg's statements show little optimism and the decision by Cyprus to allow Russia to use its soil for military facilities suggests all is not at all well in the European 'union'.
German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier doubled down on Germany's rejection of weapons deliveries to Ukraine in a speech here Sunday...
- *GABRIEL SAYS GERMAN SPD WOULD NEVER BACK ARMS TO UKRAINE
- *EUROPE SEES U.S. ARMS DELIVERIES TO UKRAINE AS BAD IDEA: LAVROV
"I see this, to say it openly, as not just for risky but for counter-productive," Mr. Steinmeier said at the Munich Security Conference. Mr. Steinmeier also hit back at open criticism of Germany's position on weapons deliveries from U.S. Senators and others here on Saturday. The White House is mulling delivering weapons to Ukraine to support the country's fight against pro-Russia separatists in the country's east.
"Perhaps we are so insistent because we know the region a bit," Mr. Steinmeier said.
But John Kerry says, everything's fine... as he denies any split between U.S. and Europe on Russia policy...
Secretary of State John Kerry on Sunday denied any divisions between the U.S. and Europe over how to handle Russia, as Germany announced another high-level summit aimed at stemming the crisis in Ukraine.
Kerry told a security conference in Munich that he wanted to "assure everybody there is no division, there is no split" between Washington and its European allies amid the crisis in Ukraine.
"We are united, we are working closely together," he told the conference following meetings with his French and German counterparts. "We all agree that this challenge will not end through military force. We are united in our diplomacy."
But perhaps most significantly is France's continued apparent pivot towards Russia... Following Francois Hollande's calls for greater autonomy for Eastern Ukraine, former French President Nicolas Sarkozy has come out in apparent support of Russia (and specifically against the US).
“We are part of a common civilization with Russia,” said Sarkozy, speaking on Saturday at the congress of the Union for a Popular Movement Party (UMP), which the former president heads.
“The interests of the Americans with the Russians are not the interests of Europe and Russia,” he said adding that “we do not want the revival of a Cold War between Europe and Russia.”
“Crimea has chosen Russia, and we cannot blame it [for doing so],” he said pointing out that “we must find the means to create a peacekeeping force to protect Russian speakers in Ukraine.”
And then Cyprus joins the fracture party, offering to sign a military cooperation agreement on Feb 25th offering Russia the use of military facilities on its soil...
The air force base at which Russian planes will use is about 40 kilometers from Britain's sovereign Air Force base at Akrotiri, on the south shores of Cyprus, which provides support to NATO operations in the Middle and Near East regions
Even NATO appears to know the "peace deal" is not coming...
- STOLTENBERG: 'IMPOSSIBLE TO SAY' IF MINSK PRODUCES CEASE-FIRE
But there is still hope.. as Germany's Vice-Chanceller hopes...
- *GERMANY'S GABRIEL `CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC' ABOUT MINSK SUMMIT
demands...
- *PUTIN MUST TAKE EU'S `OUTSTRETCHED HAND,' GABRIEL SAYS
But adds...
- *EU SEEKS POST-CRISIS PARTNERSHIP RENEWAL WITH RUSSIA: GABRIEL
We will know soon...
- *RUSSIA SAYS FEB. 9-10 UKRAINE MEETINGS TO PREPARE MINSK SUMMIT
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Americans are now surrounded by MRAPs and trigger happy machine gun armed steroidal homicidal cops!
Help!!
So we are back to coalition that got rid of Saddam. Now it is time for "regime change" is Russia!
Going to be some shock and awe!
+1 for sarcasm that made me laugh best this day.
Everything's rock solid in the USA
WASHINGTON -- In September, Rep. Trey Radel voted for Republican legislation that would allow states to make food stamp recipients pee in cups to prove they're not on drugs. In October, police busted the Florida Republican on a charge of cocaine possession.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/19/trey-radel-drug-testing_n_43053...
Thanks for the info, but I think you're confusing Rep. Trey Radel with Mr. Hunter (pee-in-the-cup) Biden.
At least he can pay for his own coke and food. There's no reason to be giving free food to junkies, so they can support their habits - and the crime that goes with it.
. . . . and you were doing so well earlier NTI.
How about all public servants must take drug testing, maybe this will explain some of the stupidity!
Blessings and grace to ALL the followers after Truth.
For anyone that posts anything but the truth here in regards to what is really happening on the micro levels(everything the moneygod effects), be fully aware that this is WHAT EVERYBODY KNOWS.:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xe5cQDIbMs
MANDATORY DATA!
I am waiting for some giant false-flag event. The MH-17 did not quite work out as planned. Perhaps they will organise a massive nuclear "incident" - and blame it on the Novorossians. Time will tell. They don't give in without leaving a burnt-earth behind them.
The flight attendant that wrote that new 9/11 book says it's May. Probably May 11.
The Ukrainian forces are pretty well done. After the pocket is dealt with I expect the Ukrainian army to fall apart. Then it will be the nazi groups in Mauirpol that next feel the wrath of Novorussia.
US special forces and nazis. Popcorn time
I hope the world is rid of them all.
Who are you, some snot faced Chosenite?
"US special forces and nazis."
I think there are more Poles and Lithuanians than Americans fighting on Kiev's side.
It's one thing to be "full-o-shit"...it's another thing altogether to be a raging asshole... Kerry is both.
the same silly fucker who wept as he threw his medal of honor in the trash against the sick, corrupt MIC, and lying politicians and the Viet Nam war... POP! Now HE is one of the corrupt old guard; I despise Kerry and im a Liberal (I despise Hillary also)
What should Amerikka expect after isolating itself from it's former European allies by bullying and insulting them? At least Bush seemed to like them. For six years Obama has been telling them all, "I'm black, muslim and I've hated all you white folks for 500 years."
Bush was no saint genius .
All true, but the morons gave him a Nobel prize just for "showing up."
tick-tock, tick-tock, the clock will strike midnight soon (no reference to the BS doomsday clock either)
the world has gone MAD
Notice the qucikening of information and the downward spiral, it will become faster and faster, until BOOM, turn out the lights.
Good move by Cyprus, should have done this before now. Did Cyprus have it's gold already taken to pay for the loans banks in Cyprus got, and for "safe keeping"?
Maybe Cyprus realized that Greece could offer bases to Russia and wanted to get in first. Once Russia gets some troops there Cyprus should voice concern about security and ask Russia to place "defensive" missiles in the country and to provide some armed patrols (even if just token armed patrols).
France? I cannot take anything France says seriously. They turn on a dime and recently have been firmly in bed with the CIA/Massod regarding Libya, ISIS and also participated with the CIA/Massod in the false flag attack in France.
Scare tactics to get the Jews to all move to Israel, because Israel has a 'slight' radiation problem, too:
From the Palestine Telegraph: Today we see for the first time a better insight into a problem that we have always known has existed with Israel. The Palestine Telegraph reported on this sperm count some time ago but now we see more information becoming available. We also drew attention to the fact that when Israel started using US Depleted Uranium Weapons back in the war with Egypt and followed by the conflict with Lebanon and Gaza it nuked itself. http://paltelegraph.com/at-long-last-israel-has-become-a-victim-of-its-o...Israel isn't nearly big enough to hold all the evil vermin sliming around the globe...
"Will we remain united? The answer is absolutely, positively, unequivocally we are united, we will remain united," Kerry told the conference on Sunday.
When someone asks and answers his own question, he is lying or hiding something!
Homeless people talk to themselves a lot too...
Good!
All the PIIGS should leave the Euro and kick NATO out.
Greece, Spain, Portugal should all kick NATO out and the banksters.
Just like Iceland. Plus Putin will deliver natural gas to you.
Did anyone hear about a fire in a Russian museum that burned historical documents? My brother told me to look it up but I can't find anything on it and Mrs. M does not know anything about it. He did not remember where he saw it but I tried looking several times and found nothing. I did find this gem. I would classify that as obscure information. Now we have fight club between museums? Are you kidding me?
And with the information from my father-in-law in Russia who is FSB and former KGB. "Why are you sending arms to Western Ukraine?" he asked me and I said "We are not supposed to be shipping any arms or least that is what they tell us." He told me, "Just so you know you HAVE been shipping arms there and they being resold to Syria fresh in the box." He had no reason to lie to me. He asked, "Why would you do that?". I don't know why other than we are itching for another useless war that will kill a bunch of people?
How to stop the madness? I do not have an answer. I tried the Ron Paul campaigns and I got no where. Our government is so far out of control. They must want to lead us to death instead of prosperity. That is the only logical conclusion that I am coming to here and it is depressing. Somehow we have to overcome them without becoming that which we despise. When I go six feet under I want leave something better for my children to work with than this mess. Grandpa FSB feel the same way so I guess that is why he told me what he did.
>>> I tried the Ron Paul campaigns and I got no where.
Ron Paul 2012 was my swan song for any involvement in US politics.
I had the pleasure of attending the local Rethuglican Party Caucus, and learned first hand about the banality of evil.
I am glad you saw what I saw August. What are our options? What SHOULD we do? There is only really one answer that I can think of and that is not what I want. Perhaps you have a better idea? I do not mean to be facetious regarding that question.
Here.: Unique Russian Academic Library Goes up in Flames.
Thank you for the link.
There definitely was a museum fire. My friend Oleg is Moscow says it destroyed material which showed the Chosenites in a very bad light during the first forty years of the USSR. Disclaimer: Oleg is very anti-Chosenite and sees their hand behind everything that's gone worong in Russia.
Most people would have never known and thanks to Me or You we, and my brother, we found it. I asked Mr's M who did it? She does not know and said that said that it was cigarette butt that started the fire. I smoke cigarettes so I asked her if I took one of my cigarette butts and put that on my book collection and asked if it would start on fire. Of course it won't. Something else happened there and it slipped under many Russians radars. We caught that one though.
You bring up a good question Monty Burns. People will learn that Russia is not a homogenous nation.
Same with the Roman Church and the Library of Alexandria. If the winners can't write the history, destroy that history.
Hell, most of us know 99% of the Russian Communists were Jewish, and the first thing they did after achieving power was declaring war on the Russian Orthodox people.
The 50+ million Eastern Europeans killed by the Soviet Communists were primarily Orthodox Christians.
But, hey, that wouldn't happen now . . .
Same here. How can withdraw our consent? I have grand kids and don't want them living under a bridge.
Make NO mistake, the Chosenites ARE involved in this to a large extent!
Anytime We support someone other than a bush or clingon they get shunted aside.
Can we beat them LC55? I only know that I can not do it alone.
Despite the usual contradicting posts from individuals working for government agencies most of the Germans do not approve of the sanctions against Russia and they despise America for its role in the Kiev up-rising. Merkel is in a difficult position because she supported the Kiev riots and putsch and shares responsibility for breaking up the Ukraine. But it will be difficult for her to follow further up on her anti - Russia course because the sanctions bite the EU bitterly and the day of reckoning will come when the German population accuses her of the commitment of a great mistake.
check. i follow a couple german pubs and comments seem to support this. what's more the picture of "moscow summit" says 1k words: putin annoyed headmaster, angela squeamish supplicant and hollande scared rabbit.
vlad hands down.
MOSCOW, 8 Feb - RIA Novosti. German intelligence agencies estimate the likely death toll in the ongoing military conflict in the East of Ukraine at 50 thousand people, which is almost ten times higher than the official data from Kiev, said a source in the intelligence services of Germany.
"Official figures are too low and not credible," - reported the Sunday newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung, citing a source in German intelligence.
According to the latest official data of Kiev, the death toll is 1200 military and 5400 civilians. These figures were voiced by the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko, speaking on February 7 at the Munich security conference. In turn, the security sources claim that the data of the Kiev authorities is one-sided, for example, after heavy fighting often not more than about ten victims were reported, although in fact the losses were much higher.
http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/02/german-intelligence-death-toll-in.html
If the chosenites are victors, history will say it was six million...
WASHINGTON, January 5 (Sputnik) — The United States is to be blamed for Ukraine’s use of cluster bombs since it hasn’t provided the country with different weapons, US Senator John McCain, who serves as a Chairman of the Senate Committee on Armed Services, told Sputnik on Thursday.
“I think that if we had provided them with the weapons they need, they wouldn’t have felt they had to use cluster bombs. So, it’s partially our fault,” McCain said.
Human Rights Watch confirmed in a report last November the claims of the Donetsk and Luhansk people’s republics that Ukrainian troops used cluster munitions in residential areas. The organization added that cluster munitions were used in the October 2 shelling of Donetsk by Ukrainian forces that killed an employee of the International Committee of the Red Cross.
http://russia-insider.com/en/2015/02/08/3236
McCain is now on 'blame America first' bandwagon. Next he will tell that America must be bombed to bring it in line with interests of US.
McInsane...
my god what a pathetic excuse to arm Ukraine...call this the 'Brian Williams' excuse.....McCain is certified nutter, a lunatic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hr37eE0nO8
And worse:
John McCain's past that he doesnt want you to knowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeuDW1hQMfk
"Hi. Johnny Manchurian here."
European leaders are weak trash. Merkel can't even stop those boats with muslim asylum seekers in the mediterranean. Surely by meeting violence with "dialogue", you get run over by the russian war machine.
Another example of US fantasy spreading over.
Foodstamp nation of warmongering losers....nowhere left to hide as the IOU toilet paper dollah clogging the Ponzi crapper on Wall St is plunged one last time before the tsunami of toxic derivative filth erupts.
"Russia has less than $700 million in debt, the US has over $18 trillion; Russian debt is about 15% of GDP, the US runs at over 100% of GDP; Russia runs a budget surplus, the US runs a burgeoning deficit; Russia has gold to back it currency, the US now only has the military to back its fiat and increasingly widely shunned “dollar;” Russia has the largest natural resources in the world, the US has depleted or ruined most of its natural resources. With which of these two countries does the rest of the world want to conduct business?"
Michael Noonan
http://edgetraderplus.com/market-commentaries/gold-and-silver-nothing-is...
Do you or Mr. Noonan have any idea on how much of that $18 trillion national debt was private debt that was socialized?
100%
The US has over $57 trillion in debt, and by backstopping the bank's derivatives, we're on the hook for a thousand trillion dollars:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-08/post-crisis-scorecard-debt-57-t...
And Putin can pay off his credit card with change out of the couch.
“We are part of a common civilization with Russia,” said Sarkozy, speaking on Saturday at the congress of the Union for a Popular Movement Party (UMP), which the former president heads."
The little Hungarian Jew is posturing and lying through the teeth before the next election and his "comeback" sans whore Carla. Fourteen months too late he needs to say something...anything .... after all the destruction and carnage in Ukraine, the destruction of Uruppean Russian trade and the NATO madmen itching to go bear hunting only because the little Hunagarian Jew knows that Marine Le Pen will be the Prime Minister of France before the middle of 2016.
I think you've nailed this little maggot 100% accurately.
The expression I believe is 'divide and conquer'. The US plans of dividing Russia and Europe have been noted.
The UK backed the wrong horse. It will be left isolated by Europe and ignored by the US because of lack of influence remaining in Europe.
Short the GBP IMHO.
"The UK backed the wrong horse. It will be left isolated by Europe and ignored by the US because of lack of influence remaining in Europe."
Who knows, maybe the Eurasian Union from Lisbon to Vladivostok (proposed by Putin a while back) will have come into fruition by 2025. By then, Scotland, Wales and Québec may be independent countries and could join it, too. Then, England might become 51st state of the U.S.... :)
"England might become 51st state of the U.S..."
Which means Obama will think it's the 57th.
Well, all the US Presidents but Van Buren were/are British royalty by blood, even Obama:
'Is ruling in the genes? All presidents bar one are directly descended from a medieval English king' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2183858/All-presidents-bar-direc... Put 'em all on food stamps!It's blindingly obvious. What's not obvious at all is why the Europeans are - or were - allowing themselves to be used this way.
Since the "fall" of the Soviet Union and the independence of Ukraine, the Russian language has dwindled, but remains one of the two most used languages for business, legal proceedings, science, artistry, and many other spheres of everyday life. According to the 2001 census, 67.5% of the citizens of Ukraine regard Ukrainian as their native language, with Russian being considered the native language for another 29.6%. Various other languages constitute the remaining 2.9%.[13] During the Soviet era, both Russian and Ukrainian had official status as state languages of the Ukrainian SSR.[14]
Supporters of the bill argued it would make life easier for Russian-speaking Ukrainians.[15] Opponents fear adoption of Russian as a minority language could spread rapidly, challenging Ukrainian and causing splits between eastern and western Ukraine.[16] In practice Russian is already used widely[specify] in official establishments in Ukraine.[17]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_policy_in_Ukraine
It looks like warmongers from Washington D.C. will have a tough February.
War has been ear-marked from next Wednesday, if no comprehensive solution is reached on Ukraine...
There will be no ifs, no buts, this could be the start of WW3!
From about the end of February, Russia will invade Ukraine and my guess is, they will also take Poland and Norway within a week! OK, 15 minutes to take out the threatening assets, I'm not arguing, it will not be two weeks!
Is everyone ready for this? Troops preped, Nazi hooligans ready, missiles primed, warships in place? End of Feb, the Russians say they will see us 'outside' for a fight - World War Three Rules apply!
"Come on, if you think you're hard enough!" - as the weak, full of shit British football hooligans used to chant!
What I see is a coup d'état in any moment in Ukraine. If Russia invades Ukraine it will end bailing out the whole country and it looks like not even the US-EU-ECB-IMF want to do that now.
In the event that US sends lethal weapons to the US-installed and backed Kiev Nazis, and in the unlikely event that Kiev should prevail over Novorossiya, it then becomes only a matter of time before these lethal weapons would be turned against Europe. In case no one has noticed, the neoNazi movement has been gathering in both strength and boldness throughout Europe.
So... you are saying the Ukrainian government is national socialist?
As opposed to Holland who is an international socialist?
ANYONE EVER WONDER WHY FALSE FLAG EVENTS HAPPEN ON MONDAYS AT AROUND 9:00AM?
Merika is being set up to take a fall so that the nwo can be multipolar in appearance
February 8, 2015
Putin Warns Europe: Total War If Obama Arms Ukraine
According to this report, during his 5-hour meeting Friday with Merkel and Hollande, Putin privately warned his European counterparts that he would not allow the Obama regime to arm the fascist-aligned Ukrainian government, and should the US attempt to do so in spite of the Federations warning, “total war” within a few weeks would be the result.
During a visit to Sochi on the Black Sea yesterday, this report continues, Putin further publically warned the Obama regime against their reckless actions by stating:
“There is an attempt to perturb the existing world order... with one incontestable leader [Obama] who wants to remain as such thinking he is allowed everything while others are only allowed what he allows and only in his interests. This world order will never suit Russia.”
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1836.htm
Russia moves into neighborhood,,,,,again
A little more noise
then barely a whimper
So they had a extra private meeting where even aids were told to leave the room and then after the meeting called up these types of publications and told them what was said? No.
Putin already knows that the US is supplying weapons to UKe and has been. He has to have satelite images of the offloading of planes (cargo under tarps).
Russia/Putin will not allow Libya to be taken down. OOPS.
Russia/Putin will not allow Syria to be bombed. OOPS
Russia/Putin will not allow UKe to be supplied weapons. OOPS, it's already happening.
You are forgetting to mention that Putin has stated that Russia will not be drawn into any conflict in UKE.
Now I understand why those European countries have been taking out their gold from FED in NYC. It seems like they know something we don't know maybe the East Coast going to be light up with Russian nukes soon.
Hysteria!
You're assuming they're getting their gold:
‘Secret’ Gold Repatriation: the Banksters’ Newest Bullion Scam'http://www.zerohedge.com/comment/reply/501625/5759534
Kerry sure does look like he could use some sleep.
Give the guy some water and oats, and stable him for the night.
LoL!!
Nay. wilbur, let him stew.
EXCLUSIVE: US President Ordered Torture, Jailed CIA Agent Tells Sputnik
There will be blood in the streets tomorrow in New York City's financial district. "When Black Friday comes, I'll stand out by the door, and catch little grey men as they dive from the forteenth floor..." Steely Dan
"...and the global pivot away from the United States of America quickly escalates."
======== COPY and PASTE ========
Kyiv must cease fire, stop putting economic pressure on Donbas - PutinMOSCOW. Feb 9 (Interfax) - President Vladimir Putin said that Kyiv must immediately end the military operation in southeastern Ukraine and stop attempts to impose an economic siege on Donbas, which he said are the key conditions for stabilization in Ukraine.
"An immediate ceasefire and an end to the so-called counterterrorism operation, which is in fact a punitive operation being conducted in southeastern Ukraine, are one of the most essential conditions for stabilization," Putin said in an interview with the Egyptian daily Al-Ahram ahead of his visit to Cairo.
"Kyiv's attempts to put economic pressure on Donbas and to block its vital functions are only complicating the situation," he said.
"It is a dead-end path which can lead to a huge disaster," the Russian president said.
==================== Mr. Putin is loosing pacient with Kiev and her Master in Washington ======
Putin needs to repeat with the PIIGS.
It's stealin the show.
Putin can sweeten the deal with natural gas reserves.
If this report is accurate all I can say is F-U-C-K-I-N-G GREAT!!!
I see that the Rah Rah Putin crowd is out in full force today. Hell, Sarkozy is even getting into the act:
"we must find the means to create a peacekeeping force to protect Russian speakers in Ukraine.”
Wait WHAT??? Seriously? So by that logic I guess this means that Spain can start considering boosting their economy by "protecting" all of the "Spanish speakers" in the big gold producers Peru and Mexico???
Here's the real answer:
Putin is a lunatic and Russia is FUBAR.
Obama is another looney and the USA is fubar.
please,take your h1b visa and go shove it up you lingam. you are a member of an entire sub continent that is so entirely fucked up that you have to come here and fuck up ours. fuck off.
please,take your h1b visa and go shove it up you lingam. you are a member of an entire sub continent that is so entirely fucked up that you have to come here and fuck up ours. fuck off.
See this is precisely the problem with America. It's called terminal IGNORANCE. And by TERMINAL, yes, I mean that the end result is the death of America. Death by ignorance...what a way to go! Just keep up the Rah Rah Putin schtick and perhaps one day, you will get your wish! Jst think of it...a world ruled by the likes of Russia and China. Two of the most brutal war criminal and genocidal nations in recorded history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangalore_torpedo
How many legitimate govts has Putin overthrown or bombed into oblivion lately?
Go defecate somewhere else.
Dunno. How many "political dissidents" currently reside in the Russian Gulags? And the answer to your question...
One
It's called Ukraine.
Oopsy...TWO...I forgot Georgia...my bad!
You said it - ROW knows it.
All - i look back on my posts and responses. I appreciate the up votes.
i work in 'information technology'. for a big corporation in nyc and have worked for many others.
they all beat me (past and present) over the head about 'diversity'. there is NO diversity. every IT group in nyc is 80+% indian h1b visas, or better yet, the ones the gave birth here and are now our brothers and sisters.
the indian population of the nyc area is just less than 2%. they are 80% of the jobs.
i get sent resumes, it is 2/3 india and 1/3 china immigrants. if i tried to hire a white american, i would get fired.
that is diversity? besides which the huge number of jobs that were off-shored to india.
I see that the ra ra Western trolls are out today!!
EU countries such as UK, France and Germany are in an unbelievably weak position militarily speaking, far more so than during the Cold War days. A strong gust of wind could blow them all away into the distance. The US is also downsizing, not because it wants to but financial imperative dictates. McCains, Graham's et al becoming paper tigers with a big roar for camel herders in the Mid East but the rest of the world can smell the coffee.
predictions
4 presidents are going to be killed very soon after which part of US sinks under water
????
Putin showed Hollande & Merkel the proof the Ukies/CIA shot down mh17.
Putin pivoted some folks
Did he? Can I get a link to the evidence?
I normally don't feed the trolls....
BUT --- are you a for real dumb ass or just pretending !?
I'm for real. Neither side is talking...does that make you WONDER whether or not you are dealing with serial liars on BOTH sides of the fence? PLus look at what this dope says:
Putin showed Merkel the proof...blah blah blah. So many assumptions and so many guesses.
So you want Putin to come to Bangalore and show you the evidence?
The fact that there is no more talk about MH17 by Obama and his cohorts should be proof enough for you.
he ain't no indian . He is a yank and a hasbara troll . . Talking about gulags and soviet era crimes is their job . why dont you talk about Guantanamo Bay - Gulag 2.0 ? huh typical ignorant hasbara cunt .
he ain't no indian . He is a yank and a hasbara troll . . Talking about gulags and soviet era crimes is their job . why dont you talk about Guantanamo Bay - Gulag 2.0 ? huh typical ignorant hasbara cunt .
funny how the people who used to be trolls are calling the others trolls
Islam taking over web site
islam down voting me
boo hoo, I am so upset.
lol cheeky stupid cunt . You can't even think logically . Bloopers .
http://www.globalresearch.ca/evidence-is-now-conclusive-two-ukrainian-go...
It would be nice if the US had a real LEADER about now, but I suppose this is all done by design!
I don't really care about myself at this point, but I have several beautiful girls, and I worry about their futures.
Teach them to fight, and fight hard.
Germany needs to fire up a few SS units and let's get this Anti-Bolshevik party rockin.
Yeah and just like in WW2, those smarmy metrosexual wine-sniffing cheese-nibbling Euroweenie goose-stepping Kraut SS units would once again get their sorry azzes kicked by a few vodka-swilling swarthy Russkies, many of whom have that bad azz central Asian Mongol blood running through their veins.
In WW2 the well-coiffed fag Kraut SS units were only effective when they fought other fag Euroweenies or when they did sneak attacks and slaughtered women and children. On the open battlefield, after Stalingrad in early 43, when the Krauts faced the Red Army, who had lots of balls-to-the-walls Mongol soldiers from central Asia in their ranks, they repeatedly got their Euroweenie azzes kicked in short order, just like in the 13th century. There is no reason to suspect the result would be any different today. Hell, the current Russian Minister of Defense, Sergey Shoygu, is a Mongol ("Tuvan"). Compare him to his elitist twit Euroweenie and American counterparts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Shoygu
Very different scenario. Last time the mongols were being financed by the jew bolsheviks to slaughter and rape everything in sight, be that boy, girl, woman or cow.
This time all the jew bolshies have been thrown out of Russia and are either in Tel Aviv or in Kiev, raping and pillaging there.
so if you get rid of all the jews
you will have paradise?
Muslim crazyness
Funny how all you zio-scum think that anyone who challenges your madness is a muslim. People are waking up Moshe. Time to get packing.
I am no Jew
The idiotic Jew bashers here blame everything that happens in the world on the Jews
This stupid Zio crap propagated here is rediculous
BS Germans were highly superior soldiers
You seem know nothing about subject
stop conflate Soviet with Russian Federation
Soviet was never a Russian construct.
Your loose comparisons are terrible...
Shogiu is highly educated officer
not a primitive stolen up from remoteness and forced forward from behind by commissar unit
Precise and exact.
Funny how everyone will readily admit that the Germans are an amazingly efficient people and if they truly had set their mind to eradicating the jewish people, they would have. Fact.
The holohoax narrative falls apart with any rudimentary examination.
Like the fact that there were actually MORE jews in Europe after the war than before. Or maybe the conditions were so wonderful there that jews were moving enmasse perhaps? LOL.
France and Russia - will be easy livin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKxZY0DIxIk
this is a thing I've never knew before
It's called easy livin'
This is a place I've never seen before
And I've been forgiven
Easy livin' and I've been forgiven
Since you've taken your place in my heart
Somewhere along the lonely road
I had tried to find ya
Day after day on that winding road
I had walked behind ya
Easy livin' and I've been forgiven
Since you've taken your place in my heart
Waiting, watching, wishing my whole life away
Dreaming, thinking, ready for my happy day
And some easy livin'
Somewhere along the lonely road
I had tried to find you
Day after day on that windy road
I had walked behind you
Easy livin' and I've been forgiven
Since you've taken your place in my heart
Easy livin' and I've been forgiven
Read more: Uriah Heep - Easy Livin' Lyrics | MetroLyricsSince you've taken your place in my heart
Putin just needs to wine and dine the PIIGS and get them to eject NATO after they default their debts and exit the EU.
Putin could win the chess game.
Russians are patient if nothing else.
"The Russians saddle their horses slowly, but ride fast"
-Otto von Bismarck-
bears like to hibernate and save their energy until the time to roam is right. when it's time to feed, they feed up for a few months sleep.
Hope and Change baby!
We are the ones we have been waiting for!
Set up some camp chairs in the soon to be very busy Jezreel Valley.
(Sarkozy) “Crimea has chosen Russia, and we cannot blame it [for doing so]”
That right there is a big deal. The Europeans can always change their tune about weapons deliveries or whatnot, but once they accept the legitimacy of Russia'a annexation of Crimea (which the US will never do), that genie doesn't go back in the bottle.
wrong
Crimea seceded
big difference
Maybe off topic; maybe not off topic. You decide.
Air Force's tracking system on the fritz.
Khibiny from Russia
Tiangong from China
satellites from all over
EDIT
How can the US Air Force's radar be down. Are they kidding or puting us on?
It was scrubbed because we don't want a rocket launch to be mistaken for ICBM launch.
Nuke?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSgQOzrYSGw&feature=youtu.be
I imagine that Brennan is busy working up another False Flag... what will it be this time... a Ukraine Kindegarten and Russian Spetnaz with Chinese AK's?
And don't forget, the EU is bankrupt....hence the Soros letters pleading for $50 billion from the World Bank to help finance a war against the Ukraine. How could the US not expect this whole deal melting down. We screwed them in their banking system with Goldman Sachs (Greece) (Draghi ..ex Goldman man) then the US helps themselves to all the Eu's privy info with our NSA group, (plus giving Israel a back door to all their corporate info). Then Vicki Nukand gets on the horn with her diplomat and says FUCK the EU.Then given that Europe has had WW1 and WW2 on their doorsteps and just now are coming back from the brink of annihalation and we expect them to go after Russia. They know full well what happened to Napolean and Hitler. So, the Yinon plan has failed. Goodbye Soros. No war profits for you or your fellow countrymen. Or the US defence industry.
ALERT A NUKE JUST WENT OFF IN UKRAINE VIDEO LINK IS http://youtu.be/_sudB-H6ItI
Barry & Elon - has a nice ring to it
Know thine enemy, Kill all the Bankers.
Merkel and Co have no intention of negotiating a cease fire she is acting as Obama's 'BITCH' buying time, trying to stall the advance of the LPR,DPR
that is why Hollande and Merkel went without informing Washington
Maybe Russia could help France with that pesky immigrant problem. They have some feel for that kind of thing. Round up a few thousand of them N African immigrants and send them to Siberia for a few months of culture acclimation.
useless talkings
you know nothing about Siberia
Hey Mr Terry your story about a nuke is horseshit. What are you . . a useful idiot?
Tell the excitable kiddy on your youtube clip to take his meds.
The US is blackmailing Europe with its toilet paper dollar loans. If you dont go along with our totalitarian strategy EU, we will call our loans.
This so called "hybrid war" Putin regime uses against Ukranians is nothing new to agressive russia. It has been used many times before:
RUS/ENG: http://youtu.be/CsNlc0iKK7Y
And in other countries such as Indonesia when such similar to Putin regime came to power it was brought down because of such "hybris war":
RUS: http://youtu.be/dRJD-CaOgCA
And here once more are exposed Putin regime crimes in Ukraine, partically anexation of Crimea. It was complitly illegit. So called "representatives" of Crimea side that signed contract with Russian Federation - was illegit as whole "referendum":
RUS: http://youtu.be/vAWpwRXmxP4
These are so called "Ukranian own people" from which Ukranian army has to defend it's country:
RUS: http://youtu.be/m8DaA8XtrKw
RUS: http://youtu.be/w8BuBuvgPQ8
And now those bandits from russian republics such as chechnya is stealing in teritories they have occupied:
http://youtu.be/tI2x2luGdjs
This is whar Russian nationalists think of this Putin regime invasion in Ukraine:
RUS: http://youtu.be/o2xjuCBie_4
Very not potatoworthy comment, viedoklis_lv_123. Just more copy and paste drivel.
Reminds of Latvian story "Boy Who Cried Potato".
Latvian boy in field cries out "potato!" and villagers run to see.
Is no potato. Boy does laughing on villagers.
Scenario repeat daily threefoldwise twicemore times. Everytime is no potato.
Last time villager throws rock at boy, hits on head.
Next day, boy finds a thing, cries "potato!", villagers ignore.
Boy takes found thing home to enjoy meal of potato by himself. Boils in kettle but it does not cook.
Is no potato. Is rock thrown at head.
Villagers laughing.
your lame ass cut and post not working is it?
Starting to see the possible batting order for WW3.
The majority of the Europeans rejects the tampering of the US with european affairs and it is dangerous for european politicians to spend to much time in bed with Kerry and consorts.
Important article from fortrus:
http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/02/why-merkel-and-hollande-met-putin.ht...
France has major industrial ties to Russia, for example the telecoms satellite network in part-manufactured with Thales, Lada is now owned by renault-nissan, and France lost out on tens of billions with the new beijing to Moscow high speed rail link. These huge industrial links are irreplaceable to France. Culturally the French link to Russia goes back 300 years, you've only to read the now popular writings of Tolstoy to see the deep connections which are still prevalent. Could have been so different, the US ballsed this one right up from the start. The "iraq / we know they have WMD" brigade were let out to play unsupervised, and John Kerry really is the biggest buffooning idiot ever to hit the diplomatic trail.
It seems fishy that Poroshenko so far has not accepted UN peace keepers in Eastern Ukraine. It seems as if he has wished this conflict to drag on.
As long as there is war in Eastern Ukraine I guess that Poroshenko can blame all economic problems on pro-Russian rebels and Russia.
The US also seems less interested in solving this conflict peacefully than France and Germany (unless they are playing good cap/bad cop). But I think that Germany and France stand to lose more if the conflict over Ukraine escalates. Europe does not want the flow of natural gas from Russia to be interrupted. They also want to be able to export goods to Russia. Furthermore, if Ukraine is added to the EU that makes the EU a larger economy. EU becomes less dependent on others in the long run.
If Russia instead is provoked enough by threats like “now we will deploy anti-missile weapons on your border and perhaps also nuclear weapons” they may invade Ukraine and prevent it from joining the EU. That means a smaller EU. Especially if the UK leaves the EU I reckon that a Europe without Ukraine would become less powerful in the long run. The bigger the EU economy is the more likely it is that the euro to an increasing extent will become a reserve currency. That will make it easier for the EU to print money and lend money at low interest rates to Italy and Spain.
The easiest way for the EU leaders to bring peace to Ukraine is probably to make it more legitimate to the European general public for Russia to launch a large-scale attack on Ukraine, conquer Ukraine and keep the parts they want. I think that the European general public spontaneously feel that it would be legitimate to attack Ukraine if this information has been placed on the agenda of their agenda:
1. The former Ukrainian government was democratically elected and toppled by Victoria Nuland´s “Fuck the EU coup d´état”.
2. Nazis are fighting for the current Ukrainian government in Eastern Ukraine.
The fact that Merkel and Hollande say that it is a bad idea to send weapons to Ukraine makes it more legitimate for Russia to support the pro-Russian rebels and makes the legitimacy of the American position in this conflict less obvious to the general public. But it is far from enough to make the Russian position legitimate in the eyes of the general public. Maybe some people have got somewhat confused by the fact that Merkel and Hollande don´t want to send weapons to Ukraine. But I reckon that most people still consider the American and the European position as about the same and think that Putin is some kind of “light” version of Hitler or Mussolini. But if the big media in Europe would deliver a clear message to the general public that the EU leaders and the US have different opinions on this topic I guess that more shipments of arms, and especially soldiers, to Ukraine would stand out as less legitimate to European general public. That would in turn put more pressure on the Ukrainian government.
If the Ukrainian government now accepts federalization of Eastern Ukraine and UN peacekeepers it is not because they are forced to do it but because they think that a continued war would make them less popular. If more pressure on the Ukrainian government is needed I guess that the EU leaders must explicitly say to the general public that they think that Ukraine should accept federalization, respect the Russian minority and accept UN peacekeepers. If Ukraine then would not accept that this would make the Russian position far more legitimate.
I also suspect that the EU leaders should say that Ukraine should not join NATO. There is probably a risk that once Ukraine decides to join NATO, Russia will cut gas supplies to Europe, drastically reduce imports from Europe and do business with China and other countries in Asia instead.
I suppose that Europe would benefit from a bolder public opposition to the current “Fuck the EU” policy in Ukraine. German big business would definitely benefit from that. From a European perspective the Ukrainian conflict should be regarded as rather unnecessary. Russia has accepted that Ukraine will join the EU. But they don´t want to have anti-missile systems and nuclear weapons on their border. I think this resembles President Kennedy´s stance on Cuba in 1962: He accepted communist rule on Cuba, but not missiles with nuclear warheads pointing at the US.
If this conflict will be solved in the near future I suspect that Russia will not get guarantees that Ukraine will not join NATO. And if Russia gets such guarantees I assume that these guarantees will not be worth much. So Russia will in the end probably pay a price for not acting pro-actively in Ukraine. They should probably have bought more Ukrainian politicians, Ukrainian media, encouraged independence for Western Ukraine (the electorate is more pro-West there) and placed an anti-coup military unit in Ukraine. The parliament and the president´s office should have been moved to a place where they could have been protected from Kolomoisky´s private army.
It is probably a smaller problem for Russia to engineer a deal that would make Ukraine accept the annexation of Crimea. Ukraine needs money and the EU is reluctant to give them money. American politicians who approve of sending money to Ukraine that does not benefit the military industrial complex may be criticized for that in the next election. And Ukraine can´t borrow unlimited amounts of money. So I guess that the rulers of Ukraine could might be interested in cash for Crimea.
If Russia returns the southern islands of the Kuril ridge to Japan and Russia is paid for that I guess that Russia can forward the money to Ukraine. If Japan in turn also returns the Senkaku Islands to China the latter country can also contribute to Russia´s bill for Crimea. Russia now seems to consider to return some of the Kuril Islands:
http://rupaper.com/post/37979
Obama cannot fight (or even define) one enemy like those people who wear towels on their heads and have been decapitating people since the 7th, Century. You know, whatstheirnames. Why raz Putin? Dont razPutin.
Bitch Slapped
Man I could have used a face like that last week to shovel out my parents driveway.
Sounds like Pappy Bush is going to his grave with the realization of what a moron he was to have thought it possible for a bunch of crooks to take over the world by creating a centrally planned NWO.
Good riddance hope your hand hangs out of the coffin. I'll be having NWO toast in the mornin.