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Meanwhile In Donetsk...

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As leaders from France, Cyprus, Germany, US, Russia, and Ukraine drop tape-bombs of turmoil at one another, the following somewhat stunning clip suggests on the ground in Eastern Europe, other - far bigger - bombs are being lobbed...

 

The somewhat mushroom-cloud-like explosion in Donetsk...

 

And as viewed by NATO satellites... from space

 

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Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:02 | 5759536 flyonmywall
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Bullish !

 

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:03 | 5759540 Publicus
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To Kiev!

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:12 | 5759584 Supernova Born
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Why does the sound arrive simultaneously?

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:23 | 5759622 Xibalba
Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:26 | 5759647 Self-enslavement
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As predicted the chosenites are hysterical.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:25 | 5759877 CrankItTo11
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A third video (different angle this time)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFvUBpZ0omo

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:31 | 5759911 CrankItTo11
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And a 4th... best angle yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA01suHS1lc

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:35 | 5759922 flacon
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Sound arrived 15 seconds later, that makes it 5Km away from the camera. The shattering of the window was the shock wave. 

(15 seconds X 330 metres per second = 4,950 metres)

Americans are still stuck with feet and miles and nobody knows how many feet are in a mile or how many seconds it takes for sound to travel a mile.  

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:52 | 5759998 McMolotov
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In other words, the explosion was a little over one league away from the camera. Speak English, dude!

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 20:07 | 5760042 flacon
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How many Egyptican cubits would that be? 

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 07:20 | 5761181 tonyw
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Eifel towers laid on their side, or empire State Buildings

 

explosion may well have been a stockpile hit

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:55 | 5760008 robertocarlos
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5 seconds a mile.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 20:09 | 5760048 flacon
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4.72933086 second per mile

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 21:14 | 5760287 robertocarlos
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Yes per mile, not "a mile". Words mean things. Thanks. 

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 01:02 | 5760846 Uchtdorf
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How many Vanillis per Milli?

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 01:05 | 5760857 THX 1178
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how many furlongs per aeon?

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 00:02 | 5760722 rejected
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1100 feet per second. 

5280 feet to a mile

and you can take your millimeters and stick it.

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 11:46 | 5761966 Matt
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Depending on altitude, air temperature, humidity, air pressure ...

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 12:40 | 5762233 Terremoto
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How much is that in Dog Years?

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 13:20 | 5762421 str8face
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1,130 feet per second :) Yayyy I learned something in engineering school!

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 03:52 | 5761048 noben
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I counted 34 seconds from the explosion to the sound reaching the camera.

Offhand, that's about 10 km or 6 miles away. WOW!

That's on the order of a MOAB.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 20:38 | 5760149 ebworthen
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No doubt the big bombs supplied by the U.S.A. Military Industrial Complex.

"Hey...it's profitable!  Profit is good, right?" 

Oh yeah, poking the Russian Bear will be profitable, just ask Hitler, and Napoleon, and...

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 07:52 | 5761199 brightdayfin
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no, check with ford and the bushes who profited regardless of the winner

 

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:43 | 5759698 papaswamp
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RA-115

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:14 | 5759816 Bindar Dundat
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 Never have seen one up close but hat is what I would expect a tactical nuke explosion  to look like.  

That is some pretty scary stuff that might be happening there.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 20:11 | 5760057 Not Too Important
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Here's one from Syria a year and a half ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GQRf1auUM

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 21:05 | 5760258 conscious being
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Bad link NTI. Zinos at TheirTube.com pulled it already.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 21:40 | 5760392 Not Too Important
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That was fast.

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 08:22 | 5761244 Mr. Ed
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That was chemical - not a tactical nuke.  Some comments:

   1. color temperature was too low...a nuke of any kind would be bluish-white, not yellowish.

   2. plasma fireball from nuke would not fade so quickly.

   3. observers would not necessarily be blinded because of direct sight obstructions. (and anyway, bluish-white spectral signature in sky would be the give-away).

   4. shockwaves travel faster than the speed of sound, sometimes MUCH faster - the stronger, the faster - even from a small tactical nuke,.. shock wave in local vicinity  would be traveling much faster than 1100 ft/sec, and would slow down from there as it lost energy (5 secs/mile: good for lightening and chemical explosions...not good for nukes!)

   5. vid suggests explosion was at ground level, not good choice for max destruction... if tactical nuke went off right at ground level the ejected earth would make local area look like Fukushima x1000 right now.

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 00:50 | 5760793 Paveway IV
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Supposed Israeli air strike on Mount Qasioun 'Research Facility', May 2013

Note that the flashes in the clouds right after the initial explosion are cloud-to-cloud lightening, which doesn't happen in conventional explosions. There are also some follow-on explosions of surface-to-air missiles after that, but they're clearly separate explosions unrelated to the initial blast and fireball.

What some of us think it was: originally a B61-7 core Robust Nuclear Earth Penetrator, part of the Divine Strake test. Revived as the Massive Ordinance Penetrator (which was easily converted to a low-yield nuke core), then reborn as the Next Genration Penetrator, then as the Hard Target Munition project. These projects were all pushed by Israeli demands for the U.S. to develop a nuclear penetrator capable of taking out what Israel claims are deeply-buried Iranian nuclear facilities. Trouble is that no Israeli aircraft is capable of carrying the heavy bombs, making one question how Israel could have used one on Mount Qasioun (hint: the U.S. 'helped'). 

Since then, Israel has demanded (seriously) the U.S. provide the Israeli Air Force with their own B-52s in order to carry the penetrators to Iran whenever they see fit. Congress - fearing a popular uprising for appearing to be too much of an Israeli bitch - instead chose to fund two new programs for Israel's benefit in 2014: an Advanced 2,000 lb. Penetrator (A2K) and a 5,000 lb. JDAM penetrator. Both of which can be easily changed to carry low-yield nuclear warheads. Israeli jets could carry those. Israel, of course, would also need a small-sized low-yield nuclear core for the nuclear version. I assume they already have them as nobody could ever locate the truckloads of something from Pantex loaded on Israeli ships in the Port of Houston during the Pantex security union's strike in 2004.

What did Ukraine (or their U.S. 'helpers') use in Donetsk? Hard to say, but that does not look like an ammo dump explosion. Nobody is that stupid that they pile all their ammo up into huge piles in a single building. Kind of for this exact reason. In fact, Donetsk is riddled with thousands of mines. Something you would probably need a significantly powerfull penetrator to destroy.

But I'm sure the official story from Brian Williams or CNN will be that it was just a careless, drunk Russian-backed rebel soldier having a smoke in the gigantic ammo warehouse. 

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:42 | 5759970 acetinker
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Minus 10? Really?

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:26 | 5759644 Bunghole
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Probably a coincidence from other shelling.  The shock wave certainly arrives after the explosion.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:10 | 5759806 Urban Redneck
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the shockwave is the exposion

then the sound arrives

then (if you are close enough) debris/shrapnel 

the only thing faster than the shockwave is light (but you'd have to be looking at blast location to see it, which participants in a battle normally don't have time for)

 

 

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 00:13 | 5760753 logi_cal
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I'm going to try to not appear to ridiculing everyone, but that's difficult, given the facts:

 

If (BIG if) this were a nuclear explosion, the people filming would be at least blind and dead or severely injured from the flash & blast effects. If it were a tactical nuke, they would still be blind.

 

It's like no one has ever seen a BLEVE before. If not, search the www for it. Regardless if it were a BLEVE or a munitions dump, it's STILL not a nuke.

 

Many of the comments here are truly ignorant.

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 02:26 | 5760873 Urban Redneck
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And if it was a bleve, or other chemical explosion, as opposed to HE military ordnance - there could actually be a subsonic shock wave - where one's mind actually has a brief time impotently ponder whether you are are about to meet your maker before you meet reality... but it is impotent mental masturbation, since one's fate is cast at detonation regardless of their cognizance.

(Only 145 days until "Happy PTSD Day" in the USSA)

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:50 | 5759650 JohninMK
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This black and white version seems to show an 4 initial explosions followed by the big one. The sound may be the initial hits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ONWZUCcelI

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 20:12 | 5760063 Jack Burton
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You are right. I see the first small explosions, that would be the missile or artillery shell hitting, then shortly after one big explosion. This would be consistent with a missile hitting an ammunition dump. Before I saw this black and white one, I was leaning towards a fuel air exlosive warhead or bomb. Now I see there was a small explosion setting off the large one, it means a hit on the chemical plant or ammunition dump by artillery, rocket or ballistic missile.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 21:19 | 5760304 Jim in MN
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Propane storage would look like that.  And what's all this about natural gas in this part of the globe????

An explosion like this destroyed the center of a town in Korea a while back.  Rail transport of LNG or....something.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryongchon_disaster

Funny how the Syrians were somehow involved....eh must be nothing.

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 05:53 | 5761122 JohninMK
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Looks like a salvo of rockets/shells now, most likely hit the same "ammonium nitrate storage facility" as previous explosion only other warehouse.

"It is known the exact location of the explosion that shook the Donetsk about an hour ago. It took place on DKZHI (Donetsk state factory of chemical products). Said the co-chairman of the "Popular Front of New Russia" Konstantin Dolgov. Confirmed this information the officials of Kievskiy and Kuibyshev districts of Donetsk."

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 23:10 | 5760617 anti-republocrat
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Darn good question, Supernova, especially since the major shockwave arrives several seconds later and knocks the camera man over.  Why would anyone insert sound effects in such a video thereby totally discrediting it?  Maybe the simultaneous sound is from a coincidental explosion much closer by.  I've seen other commenters discussing mushroom clouds in Donetsk.  I certainly hope that's not what's happening.  If it is, probably none of us have much longer to live.

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 04:32 | 5761072 stant
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The sound of a nuke going off was classified for years. Just sounds like a shotgun. Not good for movies

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 07:52 | 5761198 EddieLomax
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Am interesting point, guessing as others have said that what we heard was a shell or rocket going off followed by a chemical factory.

The other alternative would be a rocket salvo, although in that case we'd hear more of a "pop" before a lot of small explosions, so going with a shell or something like that, definitely not in any way nuclear.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:04 | 5759546 MarketAnarchist
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Sometimes, shit gets real.  

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:44 | 5759703 Not Too Important
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Putin would have put his in Kiev, so this is the West daring Putin to act. Ukraine gave up all their nukes (supposedly) so who in the West would have provided this 'theatre nuke'?

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:18 | 5759853 Squid-puppets a...
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the Novorussians have currently surrounded the offensive kiev force in a 'cauldron' between lugansk and donetsk. Perhaps the novorussians are taking the opportunity to break the back of the kiev army with a mini nuke borrowed from moscow - or captured from kiev.

If so, it wont only be army personell wiped out, and the novo's will be killing a bunch of their own people that the ukies have been using as human sheilds

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:59 | 5760022 JohninMK
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As this explosion is in Donetsk, at least 50km from the Debaltseve 'pocket' I am not sure what you are on about.

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 04:11 | 5761057 Squid-puppets a...
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im happy to be junked on my ignorance of the location or ordinance - just shootin the breeze. But if anyone junked me thinking im pro kiev, beleive me, i know they are neo nazis and the novorussians are the righteous force in play here

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:08 | 5759556 PontifexMaximus
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Yes, that was also my 1st thought, but second thought, this is no good for Europe. Angela knows, that's why she is travelling to Obama (before the meeting with the other muppets), that this will be a big problem for Germany first hand. Never forget, that Vlad was an ex KGB man.

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 00:44 | 5760807 king leon
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Merkel and Co have no intention of negotiating a cease fire. She is acting as Obama's 'Bitch' trying to buy time and stall the advance of the LPR,DPR. 

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:10 | 5759572 iclouding
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Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:18 | 5759610 TruthInSunshine
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Fuck you & the Trojan Horse you rode in on.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:50 | 5759729 RhoneGSM
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Come on! These guys deserve up arrows just for posting. It's like giving a down arrow to a BLS jobs report.

Oh, wait.....

 

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:10 | 5759575 JohninMK
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This explosion looks like a repeat of a hit last summer on a chemical plant in Donetsk. If not maybe the Ukrainians are trying to provoke the Russians again.

Probably a V2 type weapon, a Tochka-U fired by the Ukrainian Army.

It is clear that Kiev has decided that if it is not going to get the area back it is going to lay it to waste ground. The latest information is that the railway infrastructure in Debaltseve, where several thousand UA are trapped, is being mined ready for blasting. This is the lines, points switching, power infrastructure (it is an overhead supply electrical railway), station buildings, engines, coaches, wagaons etc etc. Mining it is much more effective than trying to shell it.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:05 | 5759793 fascismlover
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Mushroom clouds are M-O-O-N...that spells LONG S&P!!

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 06:49 | 5761168 supercelld
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Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:02 | 5759537 _ConanTheLibert...
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Someone farted.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:08 | 5759538 Wolferl
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Mother of all bombs or ....

 

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c44_1423430574&comments=1

 

There´s a nuclear power plant near Donetzk, just saying.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:05 | 5759547 Alex Zhyk
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 just wonder, is there any possibility for the version that this might  be a stockpile of russian artillery amunition exploded? 

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:09 | 5759560 Bollixed
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All at once? Methinks unlikely.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:16 | 5759601 roadhazard
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Somebody knew exactly where to point the camera.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:51 | 5759636 JohninMK
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Not true. There are at least 2 videos for this. One in black and white from what looks to be a low res permanantly on security type camera and another, as linked above in colour. This is the B/W version, note the 4 flashes around 15 seconds in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ONWZUCcelI

You have to remember that Donetsk is a very large city and could well still have nearly 500,000 occupants (it held a million before all this started), occupants who are used to being shelled everynight many of which leave cameras and phones filming as they know there is a very good chance of capturing a 'hit'. Expect many more to appear on Youtube.

This time it was a rare very big one.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:56 | 5759763 disabledvet
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 Use to be a City of a million.

 

I highly doubt there are 500,000 there now.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:38 | 5759954 Self-enslavement
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Historians will round it up to six million...

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 20:08 | 5760046 MrPalladium
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Touche!!

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:18 | 5759611 JohninMK
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Possible but, if it was the same plant as was hit before, it was the unexploaded munitions defusing section/explosives re-processing department that went up.

THe UA will have targetted it, as before, on a Sunday evening (when the factory may be shut) to try and reduce the political fallout should a lot of local residents be killed at the same time.

This does seem to be a bigger blast.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:55 | 5760006 HowdyDoody
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"THe UA will have targetted it, as before, on a Sunday evening (when the factory may be shut) to try and reduce the political fallout should a lot of local residents be killed at the same time."

Ha, ha, you got me there. Are you talking about the same Ukrainians who have no qualms about sending grads into the city center, bombing schools and hospitals etc?

 

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:23 | 5759633 zeropain
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i think the ukrain news is saying ammunition dept.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:46 | 5759710 Not Too Important
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Of course they are. Now, what will the Russians say?

It's going to be a very bad week. What do market algo's do with 'theatre nukes'? Probably bullish . . .

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 23:28 | 5760655 Sanity Bear
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it sure as hell wasn't Housewares

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:08 | 5759555 Smuckers
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Geez, I hope Brian Williams is ok.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:13 | 5759588 TruthInSunshine
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What about Bruce Jenner?

TMZ is reporting he was scheduled to get labia fold surgery on the cheap in Ukraine next week.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:33 | 5759669 Four chan
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fucking women drivers.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 21:11 | 5760282 dirty dolphin
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It wasn't a woman at fault, it was caused by a bad tranny.  

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:18 | 5759589 knukles
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I'm tempted, but promised Tyler I'm reforming my ways.

 

EDIT:  Tyler, I had nothing to do with this!

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:32 | 5759915 Not Too Important
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Chicken . . .

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:17 | 5759606 roadhazard
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Four thumbs up, dude.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:18 | 5759616 NoWayJose
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Brian is fine - he was only hit by a few fragments of shrapnel - so he had to take a few days off from his job...

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:34 | 5759675 Miss Expectations
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If you squint just enough, you'll see Brian in this clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g458w2X9uHc

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:34 | 5759676 Miss Expectations
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Sun, 02/08/2015 - 20:15 | 5760072 Jack Burton
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He is okay, but his chopper took shrapnel and had to force land.

+100 for that one though.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:09 | 5759562 Vylahkinnen
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So Uli Kunkel was right, hm? Better be a nihilist in these times.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:10 | 5759567 papaswamp
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Quite the shockwave that hit at the end.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:21 | 5759627 Cthonic
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Strange, all that sound before the lightshow, then all that sound before the shockwave, when sound would be the slowest of the three...

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:30 | 5759657 papaswamp
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Sounded like a nearby small arms engagement. Possibly unrelated. If that Sat pic is legit it looks to be a nuke. Easy enough to tell afterwards both type and origin.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:31 | 5759663 fed_depression
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It's not a nuke.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:35 | 5759679 papaswamp
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You are correct. DNR explosives depot.
https://twitter.com/euromaidanpress/status/564550781316370432

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:42 | 5759696 Bunghole
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EuroMaiden twitter link?

Weak sauce, dude.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:46 | 5759711 JohninMK
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I second that comment about Euromaiden. Take with a pinch of salt, this is a Kiev commentator.

As I said above this could be an explosive processing plant, not an ammunition storage dump.

I could be wrong but we should see after daybreak what it was, till then don't pass judgement.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:05 | 5759795 Vylahkinnen
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Orrrr we just could get the telephone and call the person who was working at the site tonight. Jesus, people are lazy nowadays...

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:30 | 5759658 fed_depression
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It looks like the location is about a mile away in which case the light and sound would be almost instantious. Also, some video processors are notorious for having sync issues with sound and video. Hard to say for certain, but I think this is real. That video portion would be extrememly difficult to fake.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:36 | 5759680 Supernova Born
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Sound takes 4.69 seconds to travel a mile. The sound is exactly in synch with the explosion. Not questioning visual/video, but audio with English is quite odd.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:47 | 5759716 fed_depression
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I count 2 seconds between the voices cursing and the timing of the explosion. That's quite reasonable for a reaction time even though the intial sound seems unsynched.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:10 | 5759571 denverdolomte
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I see John Kerry finally had enough!

After many months of eating the Michelle Obama diet plan, Kerry had to release.....
Even though he would deny it until he was blue in the face, people kept saying "John, man, you're full of shit" he just refused to believe.

It's a very sad news to hear that he finally blew out his bowels in Donetsk this morning, but one can only hold so much shit.

In other news this is a month we have segregated to learn about segregation. Get a vaccine.

recited not written for anyone's pleasure by DD.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:13 | 5759590 JohninMK
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Not a really called for comment. There is a good chance civilian people died there.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:34 | 5759672 Self-enslavement
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You retard. Of course civilians die in wars.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:44 | 5759707 DontGive
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Hey fuck face, pack up your shit, and go find somewhere else to peddle your PC/feinged outrage.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:47 | 5759715 denverdolomte
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Thank you oh great glorious moderater of ZH. 

Abuse/Complaints: abuse [ at ] zerohedge.com 

Send your cares, worries, and feelings to the email above.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:59 | 5759771 JohninMK
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Clearly I could do, but I am no moderator.

However, if you are happy to make fun of a situation where non combatants are killed that is up to you.

Perhaps you are just unaware that this is part of the continuing shelling of two of the large cities in Donbas with many dead and injured most days. I just feel sadness at the possible waste of more lives.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:17 | 5759605 knukles
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You should really consider this before making fun of John Kerry

http://blogs.nejm.org/now/index.php/naloxegol-for-opioid-induced-constip...

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:56 | 5759758 scrappy
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Ketchup is a vegetable.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:13 | 5759593 heisenberg991
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World War Z, bring on the zombies.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:18 | 5759613 roadhazard
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But not the fast ones.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 20:18 | 5760083 Jack Burton
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Fast zombies are fucking dangerous. We all vote for those slow fuckers that the "Walking Dead" chicks knife in the head.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:15 | 5759597 Catalonia
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We'll need extra blankets tonight

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:16 | 5759603 disabledvet
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WE COME AS LIBERATORS!

 

PEACE IS AT HAND!

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:21 | 5759615 Son of Captain Nemo
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I think it's safe to say this might be the "burst" heard round the World!

Let's just pray to God we won't be hearing about thousands of civilians in Donetsk perishing because of that one!

To Vlad.

Load up those subs with everything you have sir... And be very prepared not to discriminate on anything that sits above "North Carolina"!

Can't speak for Europe or Israel, but at this point I'm ready for whatever happens to my Country!

Evilest fucking wretches that we are for making this a reality!!!

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:41 | 5759969 Unix
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Hey Son, wait just a darn minute...

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 20:08 | 5760045 Son of Captain Nemo
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Atoning for your sins is a bitch Unix,

Should have 'nipped' this in the bud with Afghanistan and Iraq through that disingenuous "official narrative" investigation of 9/11...

But we didn't.  Did we?!!!

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 20:46 | 5760178 serotonindumptruck
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It could be that we all inadvertently found ourselves on the losing team. The America that we were all raised to love and support has been hijacked by the illegal, apartheid state of Israel. Now we will all suffer the ugly, unnecessary consequences of a thermonuclear war that will destroy all life on the planet.

The illegal state of Israel bears TOTAL and COMPLETE responsibility for everything that happens from now until the destruction of the planet has been achieved.

 

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 22:23 | 5760478 Son of Captain Nemo
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I didn't use to hate the Director or the movie for what I thought was what we were all about.. But this is my favorite line in the whole movie and should be what "we" ought to be all about!  The more you kill, the further away from home you get.  How true that really is!

It sure as hell ain't us.  And probably never was! 

Ask a Russian how many family members they had to bury in that war, and "Saving Ryan's Privates" looks like a fucking joke!

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 01:16 | 5760876 Deathstar
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All that can be hoped for is that all of the zionists do their exodus back to khykeistan before the delete button is pushed on that criminal country

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 09:37 | 5761415 Unix
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Ouch, that means I get fried first, or at least close to it. Yea tho I walk thru the valley of death, I shall fear no evil, as thy rod and thy staff comfort me. As a gentile, I did not start this crap, yet I (we) will pay for it, seems odd, there is a breach in the force for sure.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:24 | 5759640 Tracerfan
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This is the US-controlled Nazi Ukrainian regime using surface-to-surface ballistic missiles against a major city. 

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:29 | 5759652 Son of Captain Nemo
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It isn't that they haven't been trying before this.

http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/ukrainian-army-launches-two-tochka-u-ballistic-missiles-at-donetsk-and-gorlovka-but-they-break-apart-midflight/

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:49 | 5759720 Not Too Important
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No, the West wouldn't let a bunch of Nazis fire a nuke off. This was fired by the owners.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:34 | 5759673 TheReplacement
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That's one lucky sob.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:36 | 5759683 papaswamp
Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:44 | 5759705 JohninMK
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Take with a pinch of salt, this is a Kiev commentator.

As I said above this could be an explosive processing plant, not an ammunition storage dump.

I could be wrong but we should see after daybreak what it was, till then don't pass judgement.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:45 | 5759981 HowdyDoody
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There are 35 weapons bunkers, each surrounded by massive earth berms. By early September 2014, 5 of them had been hit by missiles or other weapons. One exploded very massivley, leaving an impressive crater. The other 4 were possibly empty.

The bunkers and explosion craters are visible on Google Earth at 48.02N 37.67 E

 

 

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:42 | 5759697 Lolitsa
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According to my calculations, that bomb went off about 3.2 miles away from the camera source.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:49 | 5759990 HowdyDoody
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The weapons depot is about 3 miles from the western boundary of Donetsk, so that's about right.

See my comment5759981

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-08/meanwhile-donetsk#comment-5759981

 

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:46 | 5759714 Lolitsa
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I get the feeling that this is going to force Putin to open a can of whoop-ass. Sit tight, baby. Eastern Ukraine is in for a terrifying light show.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:11 | 5759813 Stumpy4516
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In the past week it has once again become very popular to claim Now Putin Is Gonna Do Something!  Look Out Here Comes Putin Now!!

Heard it too many times.  Putin was involved in Russia nonaction with Libya and with Syria.  Both times commentators cried WOLF!!  But nothing.

Many time they have cried WOLF! over actions in UKE.  But nothing.

 

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 20:40 | 5760156 scrappy
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He might do this...

"And now comes the plan that the Russians may attack both Norway and Saudi Arabia in March as to gain full control over the energy supplies the world over. It is not said that they will do this. It is enough to know that they may do it and can do it and that the West knows this and cannot do anything to avoid this mortal blow."

Whole article in context:

http://www.stankovuniversallaw.com/2015/02/how-to-put-the-pieces-togethe...

Who knew propaganda could be fun to analyze on both sides of this wonderful conflict that endangers us all, but hey the beer is cold.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 21:48 | 5760412 Stumpy4516
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Articles like that are a good example.  Putin!  Wolf! Wolf!!  Nuclear War!!!  Putin is gonna take Norway next week!!!  Putin is gonna take the middle east next week also!!!

The past crys of Wolf!!  have been so numbers and always incorrect that in order to get attention the claims (that never occur) get more and more fantastic.

Putin might push the button because his playboy subscription was cancelled.  He Might!  Wolf!!!

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 23:05 | 5760602 scrappy
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Did you really read the article that fast stumpy? Your time sig says otherwise. Look bud, I acknowledged it's propo on all sides. Ever look at a globe? There are many scenerios, that's why we analyze.

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 00:37 | 5760797 Stumpy4516
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How many hours should it take to read it.

The BS that Putin, who has watched Libya, Syria and sits on his hands over UKE, is going to take these countries tomorrow is just too much like a cartoon.  Cry WOLF some more. 

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 01:58 | 5760937 king leon
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Putin doesn't need to start the T90s yet, He is playing US/NATO at their own game and is implementing his own destabilizing agenda, after all the Saudi's oil squeeze is hurting the US the most, the latest Saudi Military display had a lot of NEW chinese hardware on show. Putin's overtures to Greece could fuck the EU economy good and proper financially. He has driven a wedge between Turkey and US/NATO with his South Stream gas pipeline , He has secured a multi billion(not in US$) arms deal that involves currency swap in ALL future trade deals with Egypt .         

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:55 | 5759725 P?keh?
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There are four explosions in quick succession before the main explosion is heard.  The sky gives the illusion of it being massive but if you wait until the glare subsides you can see the fire ball just above the tree line..   It's obvious for the cameraman to know where to point his camera as there must be an ongoing exchange of fire in that direction.

I'ts definately some kind of high explosive.. not nuclear.  Could be a facility popping it's top after being hit by missiles or destroyed with charges.. 

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:52 | 5759737 sony1
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it's only a tactical nuke, move along.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 18:56 | 5759755 Seize Mars
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Friends, remember this: the overthrow was a CIA/Mossad operation. Some of the people who live there didn't want it, and voted to align themselves with Russia. This is called the "right of self-determintion." The CIA/Mossad doesn't want this (you know, people having rights) so they have attacked over and over again in order to bait the Russians into a large-scale war. The people in eastern Ukraine are fighting against the Ukraine/CIA/Mossad for their lives and their homes.

Make no mistake about it, when the time comes, the CIA/Mossad will do the same thing in Omaha Nebraska, Naperville Illinois or Jacksonville Florida.

Be prepared - they are.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:04 | 5759787 Hannibal
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No one in history has ever won a war with Russia at its borders - an American military expert 

Why Ukraine can not win the war with Russia and why America will not supply the Ukrainians with weapons, explained the military expert of the Academy of Public Policy at the Kennan Institute, Michael Kofman

In his last statement, Obama opposed arms deliveries to Ukraine. Why did he decide this, given that the opinion of some of his surrounding is the opposite?

You must understand, there are several problems.

First, the presidential circle is not trying to persuade him. The most important thing, is that our National Security Council, which is headed by Susan Rice, believes that this approach to Ukraine is not reasonable and will not solve the problems.

The second problem is that the head of the European policy towards Ukraine and in general the European resistance against the actions of Russia - is Germany. And in Germany, in Berlin, they agree [that weapons will not solve the problem in Ukraine].

Yes, this was recently stated by Frank-Walter Steinmeier, Foreign Minister of Germany.

http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/02/american-military-expert-to-ukraine...

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 00:23 | 5760780 SilverRhino
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>> No one in history has ever won a war with Russia at its borders - an American military expert 

 

Tell that to the Japanese in 1905.  


Mon, 02/09/2015 - 01:11 | 5760869 Uchtdorf
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Quick answer: Wrong. Russia lost because they didn't bother to fully engage. If they had sent the "real" Russian fleet from the European theater, they could have rolled and smoked the Japanese. Of course, being threatened by European powers at the same time as their spat with the Japanese made it an inexpedient time to dispatch the hardware to the Pacific.

In other words, the West helped create the misguided Japanese idea that they could whoop us all. 

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:32 | 5759798 Rusputin
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Let's see what reports come out, but this looks like a small nuke with the big flash before it.

Obviously we must sanction Russia for using a tactical nuke on the Nazi, sorry, I mean pro-Democracy Kiev forces?

And, and, and: the smartphone camera was waiting for it to detonate - well captured, thank god you switched your iPhone to record just at the right moment, like you do all day long sat on your balcony at night; even NASA had a picture of it from the spheri-panoramic ISS, so it must be true - good honest NASA, everything is real dammit; so it must be Russia, darned commy rats, damn Putin to hell. Only they would explode a nuke upon the defenseless forces of justice, freedom and democracy! In fact. let's devalue the Rouble, drop oil some more, and whilst we're at it, switch SWIFT off right now and nationalise Russia's central bank - OK not that last bit, I was getting carried away!

Seriously though, I hope this false flag was detonated in a remote field; I'm a sensitive vegitarian now and all animals and plants are sacred, so don't wanna see any get hurt in the making of this movie? Was SITE involved at all - way da go Rita?

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:35 | 5759938 Not Too Important
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And a van load of dancing Israelis was across the river . . .

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:52 | 5759974 Rusputin
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I think they were on a roof, but yes I know :-)

Just out of interest, is this meant to worry anybody? This could explode in my town and we'd all want to go out and watch, maybe pull a cart of cokes to sell to the spectators! Perhaps some complimentary radiation strips - buy two cokes, get a monitor free!

More nukes please, fireworks are not bright or bangy enough any more!

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:59 | 5759968 Rusputin
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Sorry I read it as NASA in my haste...

How would this source have a NATO satellite picture? Erm fricking BUSTED - clearly a pre-planned NATO event.

Or my wife lighting a delayed fart - which she has done before. We're on our twelfth bathroom interior now, in as many weeks.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:08 | 5759802 NoWayJose
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Just the nuclear core in Chernobyl finally going critical...

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:12 | 5759817 Hannibal
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John McCain stated the Ukraine’s use of cluster bombs was US' fault.

WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — The United States is to be blamed for Ukraine’s use of cluster bombs since it hasn’t provided the country with different weapons, US Senator John McCain, who serves as a Chairman of the Senate Committee on Armed Services, told Sputnik on Thursday.

“I think that if we had provided them with the weapons they need, they wouldn’t have felt they had to use cluster bombs. So, it’s partially our fault,” McCain said.

http://sputniknews.com/politics/20150205/1017844947.html

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:13 | 5759820 undilutedopinion
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hey tyler, nothing about the 56 airstrikes by jordan on isis???

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2944842/Jordan-launches-56-reven...

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:18 | 5759854 robertocarlos
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It's a big bomb but it's not a big nuke.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:19 | 5759858 Joe A
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So what did this guy say? His voice got beeped. Was it "fucking huge"? Funny, he caught it at the right time at the right spot...

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:34 | 5759927 Seize Mars
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Funny how he's aiming the camera in the dark at the exact right spot.

It's a miracle!

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 20:00 | 5760024 robertocarlos
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We have a statue about 10 stories above ground on top of our legislature and I once caught it being hit by lightning. It's a solid gold statue so I ran down there but found no gold pieces on the ground.

Thousands of cameras are bound to catch something by fluke.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 20:51 | 5760212 weyes1
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Go Jets.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:26 | 5759874 CrankItTo11
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(sorry dupe)

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:32 | 5759918 Unix
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The probably hit an arms depot, not a nuke, we shall see. tick-tock

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