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As Seen On The Ground In Eastern Ukraine
With 4-way 'peace' talks set to re-commence in Minsk today with the Germans stating "difficult issues" remain following yesterday's confirmation that a "military solution is not possible," we thought the following image summed up life (as it is) in Eastern Ukraine currently...
h/t @WilliamsJon
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Obama-Merkel's top hypocritical moment
...Inside bomb is copy of Obama's Nobel Peace Prize lambskin and picture of him accepting it.
And the 2015 Award for Moron of the Year goes to ......
the group of Ukrainians standing around an unexploded bomb taking pics
That award will never get bestowed outside the beltway.
nice little demonstration today of the military industrial complex debating the sane humans on the Ukranian issue(s) - at 13 minutes
http://www.democracynow.org/
It;s a stupid question but does the general sound like a thug?
I CALL BULLSHIT. Totally p-shopped, look at the wear markings, one grey long to the left, and one short to the right along the cylinder, both keep their orientations in spite of shift to the camera angle...nice work Tylers. Not that I DON'T think there may be a war zone there.
Exactly, Park Ave. This is total fabrication. Completely staged. A college-style prank meant to sway opinion. You have to wonder to what degree all the other news (propaganda) is fact or fiction.
Here's the removal...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=45e_1423591576
.... no shortage of intelligence there....
Perhaps there are people with a conscience in the Ukraine front lines who know where those rockets are headed and they dont want to kill their kin, so they sabotage them. Perhaps there are more like these.
So was that made in the US?
Perhaps the funds for the MIC are drying up. So we fill bombs with cement but still allows the bomber pilots to have some fun.
Gotta burn that oil to save the Shale miracle.
This one is shopped to, http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/80910000/jpg/_80910447_80910316.jpg
UNREAL this one is even video-shopped: www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_f4LWGLswQ
Don't equivalence me, bro. Just sayin'. the pic above is BULLSHIT. When it is proven a hoax, will you up arrow me>? Cuz i'm keeping count.
Amazing, even when proven wrong you stick to your assumption... BTW, anyone that uses "bro" and "cuz" in the same post is automatically classified as a moron...
or half NZ maori and half Oz aboriginal
Video of the pic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUmC4lAD-XY
And you may keep your up arrow
fuck amy dumb face and stupidity she rode in on.
"Vlad, buy you a beer if you kick it."
Sorry but that's not an unexploded bomb.
That's the rocket motor half of a rocket, probably Smersh, that has already dumped its warhead or cluster munitions, today in Kramatorsk.
This is the solid fuel rocket part which is empty. The war head or the multiple charges detach from it and continue towards the target, the rear part with the fins simply falls down. So no risk there.
"And the 2015 Award for Moron of the Year goes to ..."
Aka DARWIN AWARD. Wait and see. Tick, tock, tick, tock.
Ah! A dumb bomb.
Also inside the bomb steel dreidels to act as buckshot as well as Nuland cookies.
Peace will be here any minute now tick tick tick
I would NOT be standing next to THAT.
God only knows if a sneeze or a fart or a falling leaf would set it off!
Only thing dumber would be for local kids to get on top to take selfies of themselves Slim Pickens style...
Edit:
Should not be too hard to identify the manufacturer/origin...
Anyone in here know who made it?
I'm curious how to destroy/disable such a thing, you can't let it blow, it would destroy all the buildings around.
I don't know, look at it. If it hasn't blown by now, there's probably something wrong with it.
It was fused up by a drunken Ukie Nazi.
What do you expect?
"Should not be too hard to identify the manufacturer/origin...
Anyone in here know who made it?"
It's probably made in Ukraine if it didn't explode :)
Bomb was Made in US.
It might go off now. It might go off later, but it will go off.
They are going to throw money at it in hopes that doing so will prevent said bomb from ever going off.
pods
"I'm curious how to destroy/disable such a thing, you can't let it blow, it would destroy all the buildings around. "
As an engineer, to minimize damage, you could place a small detonating charge on it, then pile sand over it to a height of 10 feet or so. A lot of energy would be dissipated by the sand, and the sand wouldn't be very damaging to nearby structures At least that should dampen the blast wave some for less damage. You still get a crater in the ground.
But I think bomb disposal people have somewhat reliable ways of defusing and removing these things without going to those lengths.
U mad, scrap metal i say ;)
Crazy russians did that with some nuclear powered lighthouses to so this is child's play
Since Russian roulette is taken I guess this is UKRAINIAN ROULETTE where you stand next to unexploded missiles and you either throw rocks at it, or just wait to see if it goes off before your bus arrives.
wet sand bags covered with layers of heavy wire mesh fencing all covered with heavy steel cables tying it to the earth. when it blows from an exterior detonation, energy goes into the ground and is disappated through the surrounding mesh.
..... just drape the narcissitic liar in chief fudgepacker over it along with all the rest of the elected ruling political elite t*rds.... and their uber wealthy 0.1% capitalist cronies as well.
adding water adds absorbing mass between the sand grains, so wet sand bags makes even more sense then plain sand in absorbing the energy
It that how it's done in the industry?
Having been in EOD.. The rsp (render safe procedure) we would dig down a bit and use a 50 cal de-armer which would blow the fuse out before it could explode. Alternatively if collateral damage non issue we would BIP (blow in place) with C4 or grappling hook. Commonly known as rigging & digging. Ton of fucking fun
When government (and its MIC goons) cannot even produce the devices to carry out it's most efficient activity (murder), Peak Government is at hand.
Nothing wrong with it. It's on a timer. Tick-Tock. You know like the rest of this shit show.
I don't know, look at it. If it hasn't blown by now, there's probably something wrong with it.
How do you know it's an anti personal and civilian bomb. Perhaps it's fused to explode when someone attempts to disarm it. There are bombs fused like that. They are designed to kill highly trained bomb disposal technicians.
"They are designed to kill highly trained bomb disposal technicians."
Not likely, the SOP to disable unexploded bombs is to blow it up from a distance. The probabably pack sand bags around the bomb so the blast goes up, and use a remote control detenator to blow it up.
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't go near the thing. My mind is crying out to those people in the photos..."Get the fuck OUT of there!"
But it probably malfunctioned. Probably. They're definitely gonna want to call somebody...
They should strap it to the back of one of their own missiles and send it back
that things a party favor compared to the SS21 that popped outside of town last week. to clean it up they'll just get some of their 'get that thing outta my face' non-boots on the ground to ahul it off.
They usually cover them with blasting carpet (which looks like old tires held together with chains). Then they detonate it.
The days of getting on the ground and cutting the red wire or the yellow wire are long gone. Better to mitigate the damage, and blow it where it lies.
They place some C4 or other explosive on the bomb then pile sands bags all around it. You then evacuate up to 1km away and tell residents to leave their windows open (lessens the chance of the shockwave breaking them). Thats how we do it in the British army.
Piece-o-cake. I watched Hawkeye and BJ disarm one.
http://bestreams.net/353dzbczrsst
M*A*S*H* S01E20
Hogan disarmed one also...
I watched Hawkeye and TRAPPER disarm one.
I was TOTALLY waiting for that one. I wrote the line, then posted the link. I realized my mistake as I was re-watching the episode, but decided to leave it to see if anyone would correct me.
Great job!!
Bonus question: Who did the bomb belong to?
Maybe COL Flagg had something to do with it.
CIA
"The CIA has its own bomb?"
Brian Williams could tell us, from experience.
Brian Williams could tell us, from experience.
+1
Brilliant...
I'm curious how to destroy/disable such a thing, you can't let it blow, it would destroy all the buildings around.
They have called this guy.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-17/what-happens-when-you-leave-tank-parked-city-street-ukraine
I hear you. I can think of better things to do than standing around un-exploded ordnance.
It's a Grad missile. Russia made it.
Grad missles are much smaller.
This looks like Smerch.
Smerch or Uragan.
I vote for Uragan, a little smaller than Smerch, 220mm rocket.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BM-27_Uragan
http://weaponsystems.net/weaponsystem/DD05%20-%20BM-27%20Uragan.html
Yes, it's either Smerch or Urugan.
The Urugan fires 220mm (8.6 inch) rockets which are a little over 5m (16 feet) long. These rockets can be armed with a single high explosive or cluster munitions (anti-personnel bomblets or anti-tank mines).
http://www.splav.org/en/arms/uragan/m27k.asp
The Smerch fires 300mm (12 inch) rockets which are a little over 7.5m (25 feet) long. These rockets can be armed with a single high explosive warhead, cluster munitions (anti-personnel bomblets, anti-tank mines, or shaped charges), or a fuel-air explosive warhead.
http://splav.org/en/arms/smerch/m55k.asp
While a rocket armed with cluster munitions would have already deployed its cargo before embedding itself in the ground, things don't always work perfectly, so it is a good idea to leave things like this to qualified sappers.
Possibly, It is certain that Ukrainian Nazis fired it against civilian targets.
Oh yes, "certain".
Yes, absolutely "certain".
Mmm huh, "certain"!
Quite "certain".
Yessir, "certain".
Yup, "certain".
No doubt, it's "certain".
Yup, not just quite sure, but "certain".
Soviet made. AFAIK, Ukraine did not import any new MRLS systems from Russia, since what was left there after disintegration of USSR was enough to win a small war.
I'd bet my last gold lunar its last seasons Russian stock.
It's a "Smertch" Volley Fire System missile, knowledgeable people say. Its range is about 70-90 km. Some also say, the warhead breaks away close to the target hence this is merely the spent carrier tail section.
http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2042164.html
"this is merely the spent carrier tail section "
Without knowing intimate details concerning the ordinance I still would not be hanging around near it...
"Anyone in here know who made it?"
It says: "made in China". They used fake explosives
Smerch cluster munition rocket
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BM-30_Smerch
PArticuarly ironic with the sign advertising doors and windows.
Maybe the billboard was put up after the dud fell? It could be Krugman is behind this.
"Broken window" is SOOOooooo last century.
"Drone strike" is the new theory.
I was wondering what that said... thanks!
I was thinking it looked like a 'for sale' sign.
Blood in the streets, dontchaknow...;)
I thought the sig said "Sale, 80% off".
And Ukraine government continues its war against its own industrial heartland...
Yet, the mainsream news media is reporting that the fighting is the result of the East Ukraine forces pushing into west!
They're under the tutelage of the best and brightest in that field.
Touche!!
That missile has a 10 km minimum rnge so it came from very far away (maximum range is almost 45 km for this size)
More NATO aircrafts have been landing in Kharkov every night since February 5: http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/02/nato-planes-land-in-kharkov-every-n...
I'm sure they are only delivering "humanitarian supplies and relief efforts" like JDAMs, DU rounds and white phosphorous "illuminating" flares.
Fuck you Barry!
And Brian Williams on NBC Nightly News would be beside himself if it were a Russian cargo plane. If he were there that is.
Throw rocks at it. From a distance, you know.
lets hope some human troop took out the fuse before firing - gotta story about that, from Nam but lets just say the arty guys gave a certain us general a big scare.
Must have taken hours to hammer that into the frozen tundra.
Or at least to dig the hole with a pick and shovel.
Ejecta is spread in the wrong direction from angle of impact.
Propaganda fail.
Please excuse my sledgehammer wit, it's all getting so serious with this war talk I think I cracked....
Nice catch.
Just to clarify, this is West Ukie propaganda.
The rebels hit ATO HQ on a military airfield near Kramatorsk causing considerable damage to junta forces. At first, I thought that this was a stray missle that landed in the town, but it seems more likely that you are right and this photo is staged.
Russia is shift exports to Ukraine from oil to metal and minced meat.
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Ukies definitely need Mercan expertise in mass slaughter for profit..... of the zero 1 % psychopathic oligarchy that own US and the Washing town thugocracy and attendant Houses of Whores.
Those folks don't seem to realize that the object of their fascination could explode at any moment. Tic...Tic...
given the recent dissonance between @merkel, schweinmaier, holland and #NATO its clear that the chancellorin can envision just such a garden ornament in the garden of the Bundestag. good thing too
Some poor frozen bastard just got a free stovepipe...
I triple-dog-dare you to stick your tongue to it!
A boy shows off his rocket stove
http://cs618823.vk.me/v618823763/177d6/ciipYpF679M.jpg
The boy says "Build a snowman over this, then watch them kick it over"
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/1978735_...
A candle holder for those romantic evenings
http://cs7009.vk.me/c624523/v624523715/cb98/BxjMFgDVSEE.jpg
you've gotta ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk?
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4812/27652091.30c/0_93409_52efff14_XL.jpg
If I've told you once, I've told you a thousand times - do not clean your stuff in my kitchen
https://pp.vk.me/c540108/v540108758/11e1/mbKKA-kzIso.jpg
Tea break at the front
http://img0.joyreactor.com/pics/post/Meanwhile-in-Russia-weapon-samovar-...
Looking by the size of that thing. The neighborhood would sure be missing a few surrounding buildings had it gone off.
Made in the USA ?
This is truly non-lethal aid, unless you were just standing there.
can we rally up some money to go over there and inform those poor people that AMERICA is behind all of the civil war?
The only thing that could make me happy with that picture is if John(s) Kerry, McCain, Brennan, "Secret Chimp", General Dempsey and Erik Prince were "daisy chained" to the canard(s) of that missile!
Obama just proclaimed "we didn't build that rocket,somebody else did"
Obama just proclaimed "we didn't build that rocket,somebody else did"
And it will never matter after his announcement two Sundays ago when he broadcasted loud and clear that he aided and abetted in the overthrow of a sovereign government that has left 50,000 dead and a "white book" that proves banned munitions that have killed and maimed those thousands are made in the U.S.A.
Think of Secret Chimp's announcement as a coming out party for the criminally insane!
Of coarse they're behind it. Same playbook they used to destroy every sovereign country,no new news there.
Of coarse there behind it. Same playbook they used to destroy every sovereign country,no new news there.
So very true NG. But I've never seen a Truman, L.B.J., Nixon, Reagan, G.H., G.W. Clinton come out of the closet and admit to high treason and war crimes while still in office the way the white chimp has just done.
It's the start of a new epoch and milestone for how low we've gone!
Yes, North Korea, East Germany, Cambodia, Soviet Russia, Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, Communist China - Western conspiracies destroyed all of these peaceloving movements.
Destroy the West!!!
Who is "The West" ? Does the government represent the good of the American populace anymore? All jobs being shipped overseas,record unemployment,food stamps ,warmongering etc.
Wars are being waged for the military,corporate state. Why has the US not attacked-overthrown Saudi Arabia? Oh they still support the Petrodollar.
Destroy the West!!!
And if the Zionist tribe and it's Christian whores keep it up. Russia will certainly oblige!
Just keep doin what you're doin and we'll see Tel Aviv reduced to a glass skating rink sooner or later!!!
When will Banzai Identify the origins of this bomb for us?
They can't build rockets worth a shit, but damn it if those Ukrainians don't make sturdy signs.
Does it tick ?
Well, it certainly looks like it was built when analog was the latest tech.
They got security fencing around that door...must not be too safe there.
where's the war crime trialfor the US puppets? Bombing population centers and civilians at the direction of and with the support of the United States, nothing shows more courage than that f*** you John McCain I hope your piece of s*** daughter dies of ovarian cance.
The trial is scheduled for the same time that the Russian, Chinese, Muslim puppets are tried.
Oh, sorry, no such outcry - just the constant drumbeat to tear down the West.
I've just realized how lucky I am to live in a Country where no such thing is happening
yet.
Naw...he lives in the vacation destination for all the assholes causing all the problems...at least until the seas rise from global warming, you know.
Rising sea levels float all yachts.
Their economy may be better than our local - the scrappers here would have had that loaded up into shopping carts long before any pics could be taken.
Rocket steel brings 9 dollars/hundred pounds.
Ginsengbull, -- good money. Whole cars are paying $6.50 per 100 lbs. here at 46391.
Looks to me to be one of those humanitarian canister style food drops, my guess would be it's packed full of MRE's
John McCain hiding behind the sign trying to ignite it.
McCain shows a big gun to his Nazi buddies
http://savepic.org/6839015.jpg
A Novorossian militia member shows big gun
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6743/27747299.19/0_ea909_55a66978_orig
Who ya gonna call? Nazibusters!
The second big difference is the rage and determination which are expressed by Russians of all walks of life. The most often heard sentence now is "??????? ?? ???????" (Russians don't surrender). Russians find it amazing and absolutely crazy that the western "leaders" have apparently convinced themselves that the Russians will "blink" and let Obama scare them into not standing up for the Donbass. The mood is "if you really want a fight, then we will give you one".
One example if in the Russian social media and the blogosphere. Today, a reader posted a link to a Russian video (thanks!) which I want to post here and I will add a video I saw earlier."....
This is very true...
The Saker is sometimes a bit over enthusiast !
The funny thing about propaganda is that it generally works for a reason. Creating a boogy-man that is intent on attacking you and attempting to destroy your leadership causes a powerful reaction.
It's even better when it's not manufactured and is demonstrably real.
I'm sure the Joint Chiefs have clued Obama to the fact that Putin will have all the 'rally round the flag' advantage if he presses NATO into the fray, and, of which, they will have none.
This is no small advantage to be overlooked or underestimated.
Live performance of song in video:
LOUNA "FIGHT CLUB" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sdPd7tdTh0
Hey, I know, lets stand here and watch to see if it ever blows up.
Sen. Lindsay Graham says Ukrainians are being slaughtered. He fails to mention that its the Kiev government who is doing the killing using cluster bombs, missiles and white phosphorus munitions. What a bunch of fucking warmongering liars we have running our government!
So, the Ukranians are bombing themselves out of Crimea and Eastern Ukraine?
Genius...What novel insight you [don't] have.
If they keep this up, they'll push themselves all the way into Moldovia by 2016!
And the Chechs bombed themselves out of the Sudetenland: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudetenland
First lesson of history: People don't learn from history.
Hey, if the russians wanted to inflict some real dmaage on the Ukraine, they would have sent in a copy of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010 or better yet, just drop copies of it on that country.
I think the Geneva Conventions would prohibit that !
But, this seems to work: http://i.4cdn.org/b/1422984895020.webm
The airport in Kharkov has been hit by the good guys. NATO has been flying in supplies to support the ethnic cleansing of Russian speaking Ukrainians. Kiev nazi junta is collapsing.
lol idiot :D
How's your foot? :-P
welcome back cunt . Your mercenaries and junta is loosing ground in Ukraine . get yourself conscripted asap .
"Ouch .... that could hurt .... even if didn't explode !" .... Kursk Munitions Works.
The early front runners for the 2015 Darwin awards are...
Darwin wouldn't make the cut on his own list !
Brian Williams could disarm that rocket with his feet while he is typing tonight's news stories with his left hand and composing a concerto with his right... what a guy!
He's a perfect match for WH spokeshole .... after this blows over !
More like 1990's - before the oligarchs started looting every budget that wasn't nailed down.
Look at all of those rebels, wish that thing detonated and got rid of the bad guys.
Second glance, it is women and innocent citizens, but surely there are rebels in the vicinity.
Probably militants, at least that's what they say when a drone hits.
Russian miners from Donbass have been advancing lately. No more bombs will be fall on their cities.
This video shows the real-time blocking of the last road for an escape from the pocket in Debaltsewo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVYmMFTMHlI
If the Rebels catch some Blackwater mercs in the Debaltsewo cauldron, hopefully they will do some Abu Ghraib-style butt pyramid action with 'em and put it out there on Youtube.
Detroit?