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Ukrainians Rage Against Military Draft: "We're Sick Of This War"

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Submitted by Justin Raimondo via Anti-War.com,

When Ukrainian army officers came to the Ukrainian village of Velikaya Znamenka to tell the men to prepare to be drafted, they weren’t prepared for what happened next. As the commanding officer was speaking, a woman seized the microphone and proceeded to tell him off: "We’re sick of this war! Our husbands and sons aren’t going anywhere!" She then launched into a passionate speech, denouncing the war, and the coup leaders in Kiev, to the cheers of the crowd.

 

What she did is now a crime in Ukraine: the only reason she wasn’t arrested on the spot is that the villagers wouldn’t have permitted it. But in Ukrainian Transcarpathia, well-known journalist for Ukrainian Channel 112 Ruslan Kotsaba has been arrested and charged with "treason" and "espionage" for making a video in which he declared: "I would rather sit in jail for three to five years than go to the east to kill my Ukrainian brothers. This fear-mongering must be stopped." Kotsaba may sit in jail for twenty-three years, the prescribed term for the charges filed against him.

Kotsaba’s arrest is part of a desperate effort by the Ukrainian government to intimidate the growing antiwar and anti-draft movement, which threatens to upend Kiev’s dreams of conquering the rebellious eastern provinces. Kotsaba’s particular crime, according to prosecutors, was in describing the conflict as a civil war rather than a Russian "invasion." This is a point the authorities cannot tolerate: the same meme being relentlessly broadcast by the Western media – that an indigenous rebellion with substantial support is really a Russian plot to "subvert" Ukraine and reestablish the Warsaw Pact – now has the force of law in Ukraine. Anyone who contradicts it is subject to arrest.

Also subject to arrest, and worse: the thousands who are fleeing the country in order to avoid being conscripted into the military. In a Facebook post that was quickly deleted, Defense Minister Stepan Poltorak wrote: “According to unofficial sources, hostels and motels in border regions of neighboring Romania are completely filled with draft dodgers.” President Petro Poroshenko, the Chocolate Oligarch, is readying a decree imposing possible restrictions on foreign travel for those of draft age – which means anyone from age 25 to 60. Ukrainians may soon be prisoners in their own country – but they aren’t taking it lying down.

Draft resistance is at an all-time high: a mere 6 percent of those called up have reported voluntarily. This has forced the Kiev authorities to go knocking on doors – where they are met either with a mass of angry villagers, who refuse to let them take anyone, or else ghost towns where virtually everyone has fled. In the Transcarpathia region of western Ukraine, entire villages have been emptied, the inhabitants fleeing to Russia to wait out the war – or the fall of the Kiev regime, whichever comes first. "It may seem a paradox," says Transcarpathia’s chief recruitment officer, "but from the western Ukrainian region of Ternopyl people have fled to Russia in order to escape army conscription." The frantic Ukrainian regime is now contemplating conscripting women over 20.

Poroshenko’s military mobilization is due not only to numerous setbacks in the east – Ukrainian troops are being pushed back on all fronts by highly motivated rebels defending their own towns and villages – but also because thousands are deserting, throwing down their arms and fleeing to Russia. In response, the Ukrainian parliament has passed a law authorizing local commanders to shoot deserters on the spot.

With Poroshenko’s war looking like a major disaster, one that could easily topple his EU/US-installed regime, the War Party in the US is turning up the heat, demanding that Washington provide Kiev with arms. Sen. John McCain is – naturallyleading the charge, but prominent liberals are also in the front ranks, with leading scholars of the Brookings Institution recently calling for heavy weapons to be sent. That provoked a response from a dissident within Brookings, former State Department official Jeremy Shapiro, who argues that the Ukrainian conflict is a civil war that cannot have a military solution, and is more than likely to provoke a dangerous military confrontation with Russia.

The Obama administration is under considerable pressure from within the President’s own party to start arming the Ukrainian army, but America’s European allies are reluctant to let this war go on much longer, especially now that their sock puppet Poroshenko is increasingly unpopular. With protests erupting all over western Ukraine, Germany’s Angela Merkel is openly opposing escalation of the war. She made that clear at a recent conference in Munich, where Merkel spoke after returning from talks with Russia’s Vladimir Putin and French President Francois Hollande. Meanwhile, on the sidelines, McCain was telling reporters: "If we had provided Ukraine with weapons they wouldn’t have had to use cluster bombs."

They don’t call him "Mad John" for nothing.

The United States is providing the Kiev regime with military training, and we already have American boots on the ground there, ostensibly to "strengthen the rule of law." What that means in practice is that we are bolstering a government that has declared war on its own people, and is rapidly closing off all legal means of dissent – charging political opponents with "treason," banning political parties, and unleashing ultra-nationalist mobs on anyone who dares dissent. While the US State Department regularly canoodles with Russian "dissidents" who defile Orthodox churches and bare their breasts for the Western cameras, you won’t hear Marie Harf so much as mention Ruslan Kotsaba’s name. As far as I know, the Global Post is the only Western media outlet that has noted his existence – and I’ve not seen a single mention in English about his arrest.

Ukraine is a tripwire that could easily set off World War III – and US provocations are edging closer to that by the day. The crisis was initiated by Washington’s regime-change campaign which succeeded in violently overthrowing elected President Viktor Yanukovych, whose electoral victory was made possible by the criminal incompetence and outright thievery of his predecessor, US-supported Viktor Yushchenko. The so-called "Orange Revolution" led to economic chaos, rampant corruption, and the unleashing of a virulent nationalist current that has culminated in the rise of open neo-Nazis taking seats in the Ukrainian parliament. We are seeing its openly fascistic culmination in the current gang lording over Kiev.

All this was done in the name of sticking a finger in Vladimir Putin’s eye, whose great sin has been kicking out thieving oligarchs and opposing US pretensions to global hegemony. Washington’s ultimate goal is regime-change in the Kremlin, and the reinstallation of a Yeltsin-like sock puppet who, when Washington says "Jump!", will answer: "How high?"

That they’re willing to risk World War III in order to achieve their goal underscores the sheer craziness of US foreign policy. The latest official US "National Security Strategy" puts the new cold war at the center of Washington’s military-diplomatic vision – an emphasis so monstrously misplaced that it’s hard to believe they’re serious. Yet you had better believe it: this is what we can expect from a future Democratic administration, if one should come to pass, with Hillary Clinton taking her husband’s Slavophobia – remember the Kosovo war? – to new heights of unreason.

The US has no business interfering in Ukraine’s civil war, and no legitimate security interest in the question of who gets to administer Crimea – which has been Russian since the days of Catherine the Great. The idea that we are going to confront Russia over this issue is dangerous nonsense – and, unfortunately, it is just the sort of nonsense politicians of both parties find hard to resist.

There are even some ostensible "libertarians" who can’t resist the temptation to refight the cold war, notably the voluble and well-placed NATO-tarian faction of "Students for Liberty" (SFL), who denounced Ron Paul for his supposedly "pro-Putin" (i.e. anti-interventionist) statements on Ukraine. Ron is appearing at their upcoming "International Conference," with several of the loudest NATO-tarians in attendance: one hopes he’ll give them a good talking to, although perhaps a spanking is more appropriate for these noisy brats. These juvenile blatherskites claim "Compelling arguments can be made for both advocates of globalist and noninterventionist foreign policy positions," but aver that "Ron Paul has crossed the line." It is they who have crossed the line: no libertarian is or can be an advocate of a "globalist" foreign policy – because conquering the globe is, you know, a statist thing.

Of course now that Ukraine – where SFL held a conference – is jailing draft-resisters and clamping down on all dissent, we don’t hear a peep from these adolescent cold warriors. They talk a lot about "liberty," but not in places where it can get them into trouble.

The main danger to liberty and peace in the world isn’t in the Kremlin, or Peking, or North Korea – it’s right here in these United States of America, in the global epicenter of evil otherwise known as Washington, D.C. This, our "libertarian internationalists" claim, is vulgar "anti-Americanism," but these foreigners have little conception of what true Americanism is all about. The Founding Fathers of this country are rolling in their graves as the usurpers in Washington sully the good name of America with the blood of innocents worldwide and defile the Constitution in the process. True Americanism means opposing these monsters as they rampage over the earth and destroy our civil liberties at home – not dutifully echoing their rationalizations for endless wars of aggression.

 

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Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:52 | 5767170 IridiumRebel
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good souls, which you seem not to be....

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:32 | 5767008 Nostradumbass
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I can only dream that Americans could respond to their overlords in this eloquent, fervent manner with utter rejection of the regime and it's plans.

Well done Ukranian villagers.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:42 | 5767468 noben
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For a "mere villager" she was rather eloquent. And for a Recruiter, the guy stood by silently WAY too long. No Kool Aid guzzling US Recruiter would stand there quietly for so long, and be half smiling.

ZH has made me even more objective and skeptical, so... I suspect this was a staged Good Cop Bad Cop routine. Even so, it was truthful and honest nonetheless, and needed to be said.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 15:30 | 5767702 L Bean
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He knew that disrespecting her or cutting her off would draw even more ire from the crowd so he just stood there, smirking.

And that's not 'eloquence', that's normal human reaction that any population would present in this catastrophe unless of course as a people they'd been so completely dumbed-down and overmedicated that the basic facts aren't even grasped...

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 15:38 | 5767785 TheFourthStooge-ing
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When dealing with an angry mob of villagers, the last thing you want to do is provoke them into grabbing their pitchforks and lighting their torches.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 16:14 | 5767997 cornfritter
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"unless of course as a people they'd been so completely dumbed-down and overmedicated that the basic facts aren't even grasped..."

 

rest assured that folks like monsanto and the global pharmco cartel have been working diligently to get these poor people the basic nutrition and medicine they need... patience, might need to bring in unkle gates and his needles

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 16:34 | 5768141 L Bean
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That absolutely is the plan for Ukraine. Bet on it.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 17:49 | 5768589 tired1
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I doubt you have any idea of just how tough some of these 'babushki' are.  I wouldn't say that I'm weak but I counldn't carry on my shoulders what they do normally. Imagine an 80 yr old lady carrying two bags of sakrete on her shoulders. I almost thru out my back helping her load the second one, and no- she didn't want any help carrying it.

God Bless those folks.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 15:08 | 5767619 PTR
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Could be, Noben. My eyebrows went up a little, too.

 

In either case, what I see more and more is that these feelings, the situation, is global.  PTB taking advantage of everyday folk who just want to live their lives peacibly.  Doesn't matter if it's Fergusen or Ukraine or Greece or the ME.  It's everywhere now.

 

Happy 2015.

 

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:34 | 5767018 Bangalore Torpedo
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Why do they need Ukie fighters?  According to the conspiratorialists, there are US special operations already there.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:11 | 5767299 MrPalladium
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Body bags flown home to the U.S. would draw media attention. Besides, the U.S. boots on the ground in Ukraine are stationed behind the front lines ready to shoot deserting ukies.

 

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 15:39 | 5767789 Not Too Important
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The mercs are staying back because the Novos put a bounty on their heads. They're well trained, and experts in fighting brown people, but not real good fighting Eastern Europeans that want them out of their house.

SpecForce quality went off a cliff in '80. Sad, too.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 15:14 | 5767659 HowdyDoody
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Ukrainians are cheaper, especially after you have crashed their currency.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:35 | 5767028 Chad_the_short_...
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Why don't every ukrainian man/boy get together and come up with a plan. Lets all go volunteer to join the army and fight this war. When they get their weapons murder the ones giving them the orders to go fight.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 08:45 | 5770535 PhilofOz
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Fragging will become as popular there as it did in Vietnam if these fascists persist.... 

"Throughout the course of the Vietnam War, fragging was reportedly common. Cases have been documented of at least 230 American officers killed by their own troops, and as many as 1,400 other officers' deaths could not be explained. Between 1970 and 1971 alone, there were 363 cases of "assault with explosive devices" against officers in Vietnam. "

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:35 | 5767029 HonkyShogun
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Oh great, so Noodleman-Kagan and the Secretariat of State overthrew Yanukovich for nothing? Since when do goyim not want to lay down their lives for the almighty shekel? I don't get it.

/sarc

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:36 | 5767031 Farmer Joe in B...
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Until the media does some honest reporting on the Ukraine situation, nothing will change. 

It has become ENTIRELY too easy to control the US population.  It's very disheartening to see how dumbed-down we've become.

I feel that my days in this country are numbered.  I am getting closer to fulfilling my international goals.  I suspect I will soon be watching this madness from a nice spot under the shade of a mango tree somewhere far from here...

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 21:26 | 5769500 Hapa
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Careful -  sleeping under a mango tree is almost like sleeping under a coconut tree. Here in Hawaii it can be considered hazardous to your health.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:18 | 5767040 NuYawkFrankie
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Paging Victoria Nuldelman... Paging Victoria Nudelman....  UPPITY GOYIM ***ALERT***

 

Prepare to mount Broomstick for Morale-Boosting "Cookie Drop" over Ukraine...

You'll be swooping down in a Delta-Formation with Susan & Samantha.... Over.....

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:38 | 5767044 Stock Jobber
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Ukrainians are sick of the war - they are sickened by the Russian seizure of Crimea and by the Russia manufactured "rebellion" in the east.  They are sick of their sons, brothers, husbands, fathers being murdered by Russians and disloyal Ukrainians. 

If you don't believe me please go and visit and talk with the people there...

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:42 | 5767090 czarangelus
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Go to Hell, Hasbara.

And if you can't find the way yourself, the world will soon be happy to show you.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:44 | 5767105 Bangalore Torpedo
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Hasbara...ain't that a toy company?  What do board games have to do with this?

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:53 | 5767164 Miss Expectations
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 No, you're thinking of Hasbro, originally Hassenfeld Brothers.  Thanks for playing.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:56 | 5767196 Bangalore Torpedo
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Hasbro, Hannah Barbera, Hasbera...all concoctions of the child-like mind!  Thank YOU for playing!

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:44 | 5767100 Bangalore Torpedo
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Yep...downvoted because the nutjobs here think this is a "CIA manufactured" rebellion and not Russia manufactured.  I'll upvote you though!

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:45 | 5767114 F em all but 6
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I find it amazing that you can type with your head stuffed up your ass. Perhaps you should take a trip to east Ukraine, stand on a podium and repeat what you just said to the population. Make sure your life insurance is up to date.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:53 | 5767175 Bangalore Torpedo
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Actually...I'd like to see a clown like yourself go over to Ukraine and start howling your CIA/Victoria Nuland drivel.  After they were done conducting their act of war on your backside, you might get a clue!

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:18 | 5767333 Bunghole
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You become douchier each week.

I imagine you'll be 100% vinegar after another 12 weeks of membership.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:54 | 5767537 1000yrdstare
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You become douchier each week.

I imagine you'll be 100% vinegar after another 12 weeks of membership.

 

lol

YOU OWE ME A KEYBOARD!

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:16 | 5767316 X_Weatherman
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When they get sick of Neo-Nazis, haul them out of their government buildings, and hang them on the nearest tree or lamp-post, this tragic farce will be over.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:34 | 5767429 Miketheterrible
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That is funny, cause I swear I am watching a video posted in article of a woman and villagers in Ukraine yelling at the Ukrainian officer of how they are sick of theor war and not at Russia. She is Ukrainian amd so are they. So now they are wrong or not Ukrainian?

I could have also sworn that I saw articles stating from ministry in Ukraine denying comments about Russian involvement and as well, Poroshenko crying wolf one too many times. Or how some other official claimed Russia had used a nuke on them. Or the videos of the Odessa murders.

I suppose some will believe anything, even if their "facts" are coming from the people that have been flat out lying to them (even as far as wild unproven claims).

Btw, how is that MH-17 disaster research going? Still blaming Russia over it? Cause it is quiet now, right after NATO members were quicjly pointong blame at Russia, then sidestepped not to point fingers when the dutch investigations were supposed to be released last year....

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:50 | 5767511 rejected
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Yes.... The only thing sickening here is the constant blabbering of BS propaganda.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:40 | 5767069 DutchMadness
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All weapons in Ukraine, both of the governement forces and separatists are made in Russia. The puppet regime in Kiev is crying foul by saying that Russia is providing weapons to the separatists. Actually they are using the Russian weapons which have been seized by them  from Ukraine forces.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 15:43 | 5767805 Not Too Important
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Aren't a lot of Russian weapons made in Ukraine? It's mainly Ukrainians killing each other with Ukrainian weapons, with a lot of outside support. Or so I've heard on ZH.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:42 | 5767071 Kaiser Sousa
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maybe there is hope...

that woman is a FUCKING HERO!!!!!!!!!!!

can someone forward that to RT...

 


Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:42 | 5767083 hotrod
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All Kiev Govt. officials that believe in this war, please draft ALL your family members first, to set the example.

All US GOVT officials that support the deaths of thousands due to your self interest, I would like to see you over there leading the charge.

I think most people are tired of fighting their leaders war

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:53 | 5767176 godiva chocolate
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Anyone see Poroshenko's son out there fighting?

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:46 | 5767487 Anunnaki
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Chocula's son is in the Parliament

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 15:43 | 5767808 Not Too Important
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Snortin' up with Biden Jr.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 15:17 | 5767670 HowdyDoody
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No, he has more important things to do.

 

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:42 | 5767084 Bunga Bunga
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American mothers would send their husbands and children to Ukraine.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:43 | 5767478 rejected
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The truth apparently really does hurt looking at those down arrows...

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:42 | 5767086 Bangalore Torpedo
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Well well well...not one mention of the "CIA" and Victoria Nuland (who, by the way, must have superpowers to be able to create a war in one visit).  Seems like the Ukies are perfectly capable of starting their own civil war after all.  And the only mention of the US...they don't want to sell us their tomatoes.  This has to be true conspiratorialist heartbreak!

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:09 | 5767281 corsair
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 they don't want to sell us their tomatoes

Jeez, you even got that part wrong. They do want to sell you their tomatos. They just don't believe that you are going to buy them.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:45 | 5767110 zeropain
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I am writing in ron paul for pres. 

 

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:45 | 5767113 Fix It Again Timmy
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Take the chocolate billionaire oligarch and hang him out to dry like Mussolini...end of draft!  War accomplishes NOTHING, the common people don't want it, those that do are IDIOTS...

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:46 | 5767115 Mike Honcho
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"I hope the 60 year old, new recruit is in my foxhole" - no soldier ever

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:11 | 5767119 Jorgen
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On the other hand, NAF have no problem with their voluntary draft whatsoever. Even girls have joined their combat units:

 

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:59 | 5767571 1000yrdstare
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On the other hand, NAF have no problem with their voluntary draft whatsoever. Even girls have joined their combat units:

 

NICE!

 

I would share a foxhole with the blonde with the AK....

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 15:20 | 5767699 HowdyDoody
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There are plenty of Novorossian women involved. One women commands two combat units. Another commands an artillery unit. A third, a sniper, commands a search and rec squad. Another 17 year old served in the hell at Donetsk airport after her parents and brother were killed by the Nazi cyborgs. Others serve as front line medics.

 

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:47 | 5767125 NOZZLE
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Thanks Zerohedge for posting this.  Nothing cuts thru the nonsense better than a mother and wife telling the ukraine draft board that the villages sons and fathers are NOT going to fight a war between friends and neighbors that was started by obama's and McCain's state department for the benefit of K street. How Ted Cruz got sucked into this is beyond me


Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:50 | 5767148 NuYawkFrankie
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re  How Ted Cruz got sucked into this is beyond me

Because Ted Cruz is a MEGA-Jerk. Hope this helps.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:05 | 5767261 cossack55
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So is his bankster-assed wife.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 15:23 | 5767714 HowdyDoody
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I am sure that, by tradition, the comparison should be unfair to either banksters or his wife, but .....

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:50 | 5767150 Bangalore Torpedo
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That's funny...I don't recall her yelling out the names of those 3 gentlemen or your supposed "evil jooooo organization."  Wait!  In fact she seemed to drop two Ukie names...now what were those again?

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 15:25 | 5767722 HowdyDoody
Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:48 | 5767131 adonisdemilo
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That's one woman in Ukraine with more guts, brains and sheer bloody common sense than ALL the neocons itching to drag Russia into a fight that normal people know was instigated by the US.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:48 | 5767132 whatthecurtains
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Uncle Sam via Joe Biden:  Dammit you'll keep fighting until we say you are free!!!

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:52 | 5767161 overmedicatedun...
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well here we go is isis in ukraine?

"Obama's War Authorization Limits Ground Forces

Feb 10, 2015 12:33 PM EST
By

President Barack Obama will soon give Congress his proposal for a new authorization for the use of military force against Islamic State fighters, and it will place strict limits on the types of U.S. ground forces that can be deployed.

Almost six months after the president began using force against the Islamic State advance in Iraq and then in Syria, the White House is ready to ask Congress for formal permission to continue the effort. Until now, the administration has maintained it has enough authority to wage war through the 2001 AUMF on al-Qaeda, the 2003 AUMF regarding Iraq and Article II of the Constitution. But under pressure from Capitol Hill, the White House has now completed the text of a new authorization and could send it to lawmakers as early as Wednesday."

I will tell my congressman to VOTE NO, fatlattagooditwilldo

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:03 | 5767228 kchrisc
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""Obama's War Authorization Limits Ground Forces" Limits them to as many as he wants.

ISIS is wherever the CIA and Mossad tell the complicit-media to say they are.

"I will tell my congressman to VOTE NO" CONgressmen do not "VOTE," they OBEY.

The banksters need to repay us.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:43 | 5767476 Boogity
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Uncle Sam via Joe Biden:  

"Dammit you'll keep fighting until we say you are free!!!...

Or until my unemployed thrown-out-of-the-Navy cokehead son Hunter secures that cush job on Burisma's BOD."  

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:51 | 5767155 NoWayJose
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Fortunately for the Eastern Ukrainians, they are fighting Nazis and not this woman...

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 15:27 | 5767738 HowdyDoody
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This woman and the east Ukrainians are on the same side. They are both Ukrainians who are sickened by the Kiev regime.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:51 | 5767156 Budd aka Sidewinder
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Doesn't Ukraine throw big celebrations for their disabled veterans at football games????

Who wouldn't want to be a part of that?

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:52 | 5767166 hotrod
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I think someone needs to play that video for the World and JOHN McCAIN.    Inspirational

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 15:49 | 5767851 TheFourthStooge-ing
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McCain wants to bomb that lady.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:52 | 5767167 earnulf
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Fine, let the Government capitulate and turnover the resource side of Ukraine to the Russians and let the Russians run East Ukraine.   They've done such a wonderful job in Crimea.

Western Ukraine can then petition to be included in the EU, providing Russia doesn't get hungry for more easy territory.

Freedom isn't free, if the serfs say they won't fight, then they get what they deserve.   I'm sure Russia will treat them so much better.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:04 | 5767246 godiva chocolate
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Love is never having to say I'm sorry and Freedom is mever getting into debt.  Ukraine made the wrong decision - to look to the bankers for handouts through loans and lifelong enslavement to them instead of what Russia offered as evidenced in Donbass.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:17 | 5767326 vincenze
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>Freedom isn't free

* So, the Ukrainian government jails journalists for expressing their opinion.

* It jails young Ukrainians who don't want to kill other Ukrainians.

* It jails those who try to escape to other countries.

And you call it "Freedom".

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:38 | 5767446 rejected
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"providing Russia doesn't get hungry for more easy territory."

That BS doesn't fly so well here,,, try the Huff Post, CNN or Fox.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:42 | 5767464 Miketheterrible
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Well, actually, Crimea is seeing investments they never seen before. New Turkish Hotels and Malls, more Russian and Chinese investments (resorts, foodstuff, casinos, etc). Only industry getting hit in Crimea are IT industries. While some goods incre

 

Funny too, since it apparently isnt Crimeas fault per USA but Russias, but theu are being "punished" by the west.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 15:53 | 5767875 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Freedom isn't free, if the serfs say they won't fight, then they get what they deserve. I'm sure Russia will treat them so much better.

Die in a fire.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:52 | 5767171 dexter_morgan
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Kudos to that women. She at least is one person that won't let her kids be sent off to war to fight and die for the perverted, despicable, evil leadership of the ZWO and Russia. 

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:54 | 5767182 besnook
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moms are the best!

she is the precise reason the draft needs to be reinstated in the usa. that is the solution to peace in the world.  politicians fear mom the most.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:07 | 5767274 ucde
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Agree. 

Word on the street is, TPTB started using crisis actors in the last few "incidents" because they couldn't deal with the mom's of the people they killed. 

Apparently when a mom loses a son or a daughter, they basically go on a no-holds-barred crusade to hold the people in charge accountable. 9/11 Mom's are still giving these people hell, writing letters and making phone calls, years later. They never give up. 

Its pretty inspiring in my mind actually. Moms rock.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:33 | 5767420 rejected
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Like the WWI song "I didn't raise my boy to join the Army" ,,, back in the day when many 'real' mothers did not want their sons to die for nuttin.....

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Didn%27t_Raise_My_Boy_to_Be_a_Soldier

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 16:29 | 5768108 Berspankme
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Imagine you're in Ukraine and they want your son to die to satisfy some pyschos in DC and Tel Aviv? They should all lay down their arms and go home. Fuck the banksters and neocons

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:54 | 5767185 kchrisc
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"Ukrainians Rage Against Military Draft: "We're Sick Of This War"

I wonder what they'd be saying if they knew that their loved ones were actually being used as cannon fodder for Zion, Lebensraum and pipeline routes in Syria for Israel?

The banksters need to repay us.

 

You must send your kids, because ours are busy genociding the Gazians.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:02 | 5767236 Bangalore Torpedo
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You seem utterly confused.

Zion:God's land...the Promised land. 

Lebensraum: German for "living space"...last I heard, they were never really fond of Zion back then.

Pipeline routes for Syria: maybe we should wait for all of the bombing, shelling, etc.

The bankers have repaid anyone willing to ride the stock market tsunami along with them.

Gaza genocide?  That's sooooooo first intifada dood!

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:53 | 5767531 Bunghole
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Your schmegma is showing and smelling.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 16:36 | 5768152 cherry picker
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God also mentioned something about not murdering and not stealing.....

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 13:55 | 5767186 corsair
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4:20

You can only destroy! Show us something you've built! [You build] only banks!

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 15:16 | 5767667 Wahooo
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That is so pure, so classic.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:03 | 5767241 SirBarksAlot
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Is it just me or is the shit hitting the fan?

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:03 | 5767243 wrs1
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Rule of law is not what it seems. It's the rule of the people who make the laws, not the law. No one agrees with all the laws and the majority don't agree with the majority of laws.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 15:35 | 5767771 Volkodav
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Only rights are those can be defended

 

Best book "The Law" Frederick Bastiat   describes "legal plunder"  

must read book and can buy cheap

 

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:05 | 5767253 Police Commissi...
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How exactly did Russia "seize" Crimea when something like 90 percent of Crimeans voted to stick with Russia? After which, Putin refused to allow similar elections in the eastern provinces and asked the Russian legislature to withdraw authorization to use force to protect ethnic Russians?

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:28 | 5767395 rejected
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Crimea was Russian until the 1950's when Khrushchev decided to make it part of Ukraine... (I am thinking Khrushchev was Ukrainian) ... without asking any of the citizens their opinion at the time. 

I might add.  Crimea voted to RE-UNIFY finally getting their chance to voice their self determination wishes...

Now being objective,,, I also think Russia would have done what is necessary to secure their port at Sevastopol regardless of how the vote went just as the ussa could care less what the Cubans want concerning Guantanamo.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:58 | 5767563 hotrod
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Also  Ukraine was part of the USSR back then so the gift was really just logistical and may not have required a vote. 

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 15:30 | 5767739 Volkodav
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Crimea seceded.

Ukraine red mafiya butthurt

Crimea is still celebrating

 

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:12 | 5767304 numapepi
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Common sense is sorely lacking when it comes to the Ukrainian Russia issue. War is always the worst alternative to any other that is available.

Here are my thoughts on a common sense solution to the conflict...

http://incapp.org/blog/?p=2439

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:20 | 5767342 Chuck Knoblauch
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Of course you're sick of it!

You didn't start it.

Now the bankers want you to die in it.

Fuck them all.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:20 | 5767344 gosh
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When the soviets ship their men to the gulag theyll think differently, but by then it will be too late.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:20 | 5767348 Joe A
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If politicians want wars then they should go pick up up a gun and go fight themselves.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:32 | 5767416 tsuki
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I would give you a Plus 100 if I could.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:21 | 5767350 freedom123
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On February 10, at around 12:30 local time, Russian-backed terrorists shelled an airfield and civilian areas on the outskirts of the Ukrainian city of Kramatorsk (Donetsk region) using Smerch multiple launch rocket systems.
At least twelve people were killed and 63 wounded, including 5 children and 32 Ukrainian servicemen.
Kramatorsk was shelled from the terrorist controlled town of Horlivka.
Smerch multiple launch rocket systems are used by the armed forces of the Russian Federation.

https://www.facebook.com/ukr.embassy.usa/posts/860299737346593

http://youtu.be/g99P3W7lxsA

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:40 | 5767454 Bunghole
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Lookie,

Another .gov troll spewing ignorance and linking to Facebook and Youtube, like his State Department handlers taught him.

Fuck off dude!

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:57 | 5767559 Police Commissi...
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Your source on this is a Nazi facebook page?

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:58 | 5767561 Police Commissi...
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Your source on this is a Nazi facebook page?

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 15:22 | 5767711 Volkodav
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No one knows exactly what is facts yet, retard...

some actual locals already tell otherwise than from seps direction

your sources are terrible

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 15:38 | 5767784 damicol
damicol's picture

Which diseased cunt did you drop out of onto your fucking head

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:21 | 5767352 Clowns on Acid
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Thwe woman in the video should have asked to speak to Victoria Nuland. She is the one that designated Poroshenko to be President.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 15:25 | 5767693 lakecity55
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Victoria Nuland.

Remember that name.

How much blood is on the hands and the serpentine tongue of this arrogant Zionist Whore?

How much blood and guts of Aborted Children must she consume to Please His Satanic Majesty?
Can you imagine how greedily she slakes her Thirst for the Unborn?

This woman is not just a flunky. She is Evil.

In the End Times, many Antichrists will come.

Now we can see one.

America Will Be Judged.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:23 | 5767356 Son of Captain Nemo
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They all fall down!...

Please wake me up when they have Porko-Jew, "Rats" and Kolomoysky suspended upside down from a rope disemboweled on display in Maidan Square!!!

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 15:18 | 5767683 Volkodav
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I prefer just take all their stuff first, to rebuild what destroyed

then turn them over to regions of their crimes

These are good people...they will give fair trial

 

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 15:55 | 5767890 Son of Captain Nemo
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I prefer just take all their stuff first, to rebuild what destroyed

Could not disagree with you more V.  And what did the United States do with Nuremburg again?!!!

If you don't hang, electrocute, or shoot them, "them" being the top, middle and bottom to the "chain of command" they'll just keep doing it... Right?!!!  At least that's what we did to the Japanese and Germans as the standard bearers of morality.  Correct???...

I have no doubts that the Hague will one day either be in Eastern Europe or Asia with the corruption we are now witnessing from our Western government(s).   Either the citizens of the Republic take matters into their own hands and make a gruesome sacrifice that sets the ultimate standard of what can happen to those that do the same, or Russia and China will be doing the honors for the Western half of the World very soon!

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 16:42 | 5768200 Volkodav
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I ended at fair trial by purpose...beyond must the people decide and make the punishment

is their right

not you or I

 

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 18:01 | 5768629 Son of Captain Nemo
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I ended at fair trial by purpose...

Understand completely what you are saying which should be correct in a more perfect ethical and stable world.

But when you're dealing with something like this or this?...

I want to see them screaming and crying in pure agony before those eyes of their's role up into their heads to take the last breath!  And that PR for the masses ultimately is the only thing that ensures for a time it doesn't get repeated by those that follow!

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:23 | 5767360 freedom123
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Regarding mobilization, DNR terrorists will force 100 000 man to join terrorist group. Of course in that small land won't be so many man, so mostly it will contain of russians probably those who will be criminals, rapests, etc. from jail.

 

MOSCOW: Separatists battling government troops in east Ukraine plan a general mobilization and aim to boost their fighting force to 100,000 men, one of their main leaders said on Monday. Alexander Zakharchenko, leader of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic, was quoted by Russian news agencies as saying the mobilization would take place next week.

"A general mobilization is planned in the DNR in 10 days. Ten thousand men will be called up," RIA news agency quoted Zakharchenko as saying in the city of Donetsk, though he did not make clear how the mobilization would be enforced.

"The joint army of the DNR and the LNR will be 100,000 men strong," Interfax news agency quoted him as saying.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/europe/Ukraine-rebels-to-recrui...

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:52 | 5767518 libertysghost
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Your stuff is so hokey.  UGH...I'm not sure why you bother.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 15:10 | 5767638 Volkodav
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He is not right in the head.

Unfortunately exist too many like him in Balts...

There Russians are disciminated against.

 

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 16:06 | 5767933 TheFourthStooge-ing
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It is true. Latvia is an apartheid state. Ethnic Russians born there are not considered citizens.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 16:34 | 5768142 Volkodav
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Yes that is fact

you expressed better

 

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 16:22 | 5768060 Berspankme
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He gets paid to post by the state department. He slobbers vodka all day and posts nonsensical links he receives from Porkoshenko

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:34 | 5767425 freedom123
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Putin regime terrorist invasion in Ukraine exposed & message from russian nationalist who cares about russians and their interests

RUS: http://youtu.be/j_CoL_yfI1s

 

Proof of russian army 9K35 Strela-10 presence in Ukraine territory occupied by Putin regime terrorists:

RUS: http://youtu.be/KuB_uYsAeuA

 

People of Ukraine show respect to their sons that have died protecting them from Putin regime terrorists:

http://youtu.be/Qs4PVls-BGw

 

Talk between russian speakina east Ukranian who supports Ukraine army and Ukraine as a state talks about argument: if maniac break in your house you should protect your family from raping wife, killing children, for what women who is russian speaking brainwashed by Putin regime propoganda cant really reply anything and goes away:

RUS: http://youtu.be/YqH-oW0KdNY

 

Another Putin regime terror attack in Ukraine killing civilians as in Mariupol, this is "russian world" coming to "libarate" people in Ukraine:

RUS: http://youtu.be/g99P3W7lxsA

RUS: http://youtu.be/VBYKR0gxRME

ENG: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/02/separatists-claim-surround-key-ukr...

 

 

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 15:06 | 5767607 L Bean
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LMAOLMAOLMAO

 

"If maniac break in house..."

 

You are cracking me up. Is this Boris Alatovkrap?

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 16:08 | 5767950 TheFourthStooge-ing
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"Chalkman has just made his mark ... and crumbled."
-- Captain Beefheart

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:50 | 5767440 Mike Masr
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Notice the name of Geoffrey Pyatt in both below. Just don't forget the official narrative, Putin and Russia are behind all of this!!!

 

Nov. 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&x-yt-ts=1422503916...

Feb 2014

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-06/fuck-eu-us-state-department-bla...

 

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:37 | 5767442 freedom123
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Once more Zerohedge has proved that is loyal to Putin regime propaganda and not objective at all. This article is created to manipulate with readers so that they think that people of Ukraine is not ready to fight for their country. Which is lie. There are always those who are against joining army but it's not a majority. Majority want to protect their families and join army of Ukraine:

http://youtu.be/OroklvJFWSo

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:43 | 5767475 Bunghole
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No one is forcing you to read this site.

But since the State Dept pays you in potato vodka, you better do what they tell you.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:52 | 5767526 Son of Captain Nemo
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Hey Rugelech123

Time for the Jewish mafia to kiss and make up with Putin?...

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Netanyahu delivers Kolomoyski on a "plate" with "strings attached" actually believing that would patch things up with the Russian Federation.  But Israel irretrievably fucked itself in it's own ass when it helped destroy Syria which had 40,000 Russians living in it since the 1970's and then turned around to fuck with Russian family in East Ukraine!

Beware Zionist Jew fuck!

I see a mushroom cloud in your future!  And there is absolutely nothing that the Knesset can do to extricate themselves from the foul smell and damage it's created for itself with Russia!

Ode to Russian Jews living in Russia.  Get the fuck out while you still have a "skin"!!!

Think  you're going to war with them at this point, Like it or Not!!!

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 15:21 | 5767704 Not Too Important
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I don't want to get into the Jew bashing that occurs here, some deserve it - the demon worshipers - and others don't (the Jews that reject the Talmud and the Goyim quotes).

But no one has ever asked, how many Jews are in the Chinese government? There are Jews that live there. How many Jews are in any other Asian government? Zero.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 16:15 | 5767947 Son of Captain Nemo
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NTI

Let me qualify my remarks.

We've always known why they "wander", and it has absolutely nothing to do with their alleged persecution throughout history. We've always known what pathological liars they are as well as being lunatic psychopaths.  If the lies of their persecution were true they all would have been dead 500 years ago.

Having said that.  And I believe I've made this statement many times here before... What does this say about those who blindly obey and pledge unwavering loyalty to that "group of individuals" for material things?...  Nothing could be worse than the whores that knowingly draw a paycheck from the "tribe" and look the other way. Even when they know their own are being sacrificed to perpetuate the crimes on their behalf!

Inevitably what we embrace above everything else through coveting, We become!!! 

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 16:10 | 5767959 shovelhead
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These demon worshippers...do they have a particular brand of demon they worship or are they just sort of generically inclined?

Do they have friendly rivalries between say, the Beezelbubbers and the Azraelites?

Secret handshakes so they can recognize each other at Wal-Mart?

Demon worshippers. So many questions.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 15:03 | 5767595 L Bean
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"Which is lie"..."There are always those who are against joining army"

Learn merikan, troll.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 04:20 | 5770349 Bad Santa
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Yup, merikan is an universal language, unlike english.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 15:04 | 5767600 lakecity55
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Once again you betray your desire for Ernst Rohm's dick up your ass.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 16:04 | 5767924 Uncle Remus
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My, what a long knife you have...

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 16:11 | 5767966 shovelhead
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I saw that.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 19:20 | 5773577 PhilofOz
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Go away you pathetic govtroll !

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:39 | 5767451 Uncle Remus
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Way to go Tylers - you put up some real Nazi bait this time.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:42 | 5767466 freedom123
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Also we have absolutely no evidence that this video was not staged by Putin regime propaganda team to create impression that this is what Ukraine people think. Because why would that man in the begining give microphone to that lady who calle them criminals etc. Makes no logic. If only they are both working together to manipulate with viewer. Look hows he is smiling. This is so staged.. and zerohedge is also helping to spread these lies.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:58 | 5767564 dogbreath
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You are such a douche.   If a man leaves his home to defend his family he will be arrested or worse.  When a mother leaves her home to defend her family no law can stop her

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 15:17 | 5767673 dogbreath
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You must have come from a test tube.  Thanks for upvoting yourself

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 16:12 | 5767979 ZomBiEHiGH
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YOU sir are a FUCKING moron. How much do the feds pay you for the stinky bullshit you spew?

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 17:17 | 5768418 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Latvian troll gets paid potato daily even if using old discredited propaganda like that US-funded soldiers' mothers NGO in St. Petersburg.

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2015/01/rebels-advance-toward...

But hey, for potato troll, anything appeals when it is about not taking up responsibility...

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:42 | 5767469 Mike Masr
Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:42 | 5767470 BullyBearish
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Sounds like it's almost time for a dastardly false flag against Ukraine that can once again be blamed on Russia...perhaps poison gas, burning someone alive, beheading children, shooting down a civilian airliner...oh wait

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:43 | 5767474 Soul Glow
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Get the gulliatines.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 16:12 | 5767983 shovelhead
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French cigarettes?

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 16:17 | 5768021 Uncle Remus
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Moroccan...

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 04:14 | 5770342 Bad Santa
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Gitanes

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:45 | 5767485 bigrooster
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Sadly I am sure that by now this brave woman is lying dead somewhere with a bullet in her head.

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 15:04 | 5767598 Volkodav
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Doubtful   Zaprorizza region is very anti Kiev

notice recruiter went quiet and probably step easy to leave

that town is half of way down reservoir from Zaporizza

Zaporozzia men already stood outnumbered against Kolomoiskyi's thugs.

you can see the spirit there...

 

 

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 15:33 | 5767761 HowdyDoody
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There are lots of oblasts in Ukraine like that. Things are only quiet because the Nazi thugs are there to stamp out opposition.

 

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 16:30 | 5768118 Volkodav
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yes  so much a fact

 

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:48 | 5767497 Bangalore Torpedo
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I'm thinking that the same outfit that did the filming for the Sandy Hook "false flag" did this one as well.  The similarities are striking!

Tue, 02/10/2015 - 14:59 | 5767512 exartizo
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I'm no fan of President Obama, but I DO credit him with having the wisdom to stay out of the Ukraine so far.

I wonder how it happened that so many men in Eastern Ukraine have balls and how few men in Western Uraine have balls?

Oh yeah, they live a lot closer to Putin's Russia.

Prediction:

With no military intervention by the West, the Rebels will be in Kiev by Christmas 2015.

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