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Full Circle: Obama Asks Congress For Troop Deployment In Iraq, War Authorization On Islamic State

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Update:

  • OBAMA ASKS CONGRESS TO AUTHORIZE WAR AGAINST ISLAMIC STATE: AP
  • OBAMA SAYS REQUEST WON’T AUTHORIZE LONG WAR LIKE IRAQ: AP

And so it begins, and this time it will be different, because Obama's wars are... shorter.

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Several years ago, Obama impressed a handful of crusty, old people in Norway who believed the recent Illinois senator's vision of a world without war, validated by his eagerness to end the war in Iraq and withdraw US troops to their native country. He got an award for it.

Today, Obama will finally complete the circle started in August when, under the premise of "humanitarian intervention", allegedly meant to save a group refugees stranded on a mountain, Obama launched an airborne coalition effort to destroy the same group of radical jihadist extremists that the US was assisting when they were merely fighting the Assad regime in Syria. Because today is when Obama will officially request that those same troops that he so liberally pulled out in compliance with his Nobel Peace Prize, be put back in Iraq in order to declare war on, drumroll, a nation that doesn't technically even exist: the Islamic State.

As Reuters reports, "U.S. President Barack Obama will propose to Congress on Wednesday a new three-year authorization for the use of force against Islamic State with limits on U.S. combat troops' involvement, lawmakers and congressional aides said."

The proposal would allow the use of special forces and advisors for defensive purposes but bar "enduring offensive ground forces," lawmakers and aides said. It would not, however, set geographic limits for the campaign against the group.

Just like Jordan piling thousands of troops on the Iraq border to invade Iraq in a preemptive strike is "defensive"?

A brief history of Obama's less than triumphal (and less than Nobel Peace Prizy) return to Iraq:

Obama has defended his authority to lead an international coalition against Islamic State since Aug. 8 when U.S. fighter jets began attacking the jihadists in Iraq. But he has faced criticism for failing to seek the backing of Congress, where some accuse him of breaching his constitutional authority.

 

Facing pressure to let lawmakers weigh in on an issue as important as the deployment of troops and chastened by elections that handed power in Congress to Republicans, he said in November he would request formal authorization for the use of military force (AUMF).

 

An outline of that request, expected to be handed to Congress on Wednesday, could stir debate over how U.S. troops should be deployed and the extent of U.S. engagement in Iraq and Syria.

Actually it won't stir any debate among the neo-cons, whose compensation is largely determined by the military-industrial complex lobby dollars - they will be quite delighted. It may stir some debate among the progressive rank of democrats as they scramble to resolve the cognitive dissonance that the peace-loving president is going back to George Bush's so much hated ground zero, and find a way to spin and package it for public consumption. The good news: there is a catalyst:

Fueled by outrage over the death of aid worker Kayla Mueller, the last-known U.S. hostage held by Islamic State militants, as well as the slayings of journalists and a Jordanian pilot, lawmakers said they planned quick hearings on the authorization, and a vote within weeks of Congress' return from a Feb. 16-20 recess.

As a reminder, according to ISIS it was Jordan airstirkes, obviously with the US blessing, that killed Mueller. We doubted this explanation, but it was not until the CIA and the Pentagon chimed in and made it very clear just who killed the US hostage, that we knew for certain what had happened:

Navy Rear Adm. John Kirby was asked Tuesday if there was any doubt who killed the aid worker.

 

He replied: "No doubt. ISIL," using the initials the group is known by.

 

Kirby says U.S. officials still don't know how Mueller died. But he added that officials are certain it was not in one of the airstrikes Jordan launched in retaliation for the killing of one of its pilots.

So... the US doesn't know, but it is certain it wasn't a Jordanian airstrike. And a little over decade ago the US was certain it was Iraqi WMDs too...

In any event, next up in Congress: the usual circus as the US prepares to invade a nation once again under a humanitarian intervention pretext.

Many of Obama's fellow Democrats, war-weary after more than a dozen years of fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq, say they will oppose any AUMF that includes "boots on the ground." Obama's opposition to the Iraq War helped propel him to victory in the 2008 campaign and bringing troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan has been a focus of his presidency.

 

"I worry that this AUMF gives the ability for the next president to put ground troops back into the Middle East," said Senator Chris Murphy, adding that that would be a sticking point for himself and many other Democrats.

 

Some hawkish Republicans oppose restrictions on military commanders such as a ban on ground troops. Others are calling for a more extensive authorization allowing U.S. forces to challenge President Bashar al-Assad of Syria, where a four-year-long civil war has fueled the rise of the Islamic State group.

 

"If the authorization doesn't let us counter Assad's air power, I think it will fail," said Senator Lindsey Graham, a leading Republican foreign policy voice.

Surely the only way this tragicomedy would be even more complete is if Brian Williams delivered the news that America is about to bomb some more folks straight into a modern democracy to the people.

The best part: between the European Union admitting later today it is anything but, and the US on the verge of another land war in Asia, the stock market is poised to hit a fresh all time high, just because.

 

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Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:38 | 5770674 SickDollar
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Can we impeach  this MUPPET TRAITOR

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:39 | 5770681 MarketAnarchist
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He only decides to ask congress once congress is all republican, that way hillary can blame the republicans for the result when shes president.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:44 | 5770704 SickDollar
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+100 good angle

seems that way

 

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:45 | 5770713 Big Corked Boots
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He's not giving back the medal or the cash that comes with it, is he?

FUCK 0BAMA.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:47 | 5770718 Newsboy
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Can I just put the tip in?

That's all, really.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:49 | 5770724 The Juggernaut
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"Look everyone!  This is what Ghandi never won!" 

What a meaningless award.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:51 | 5770742 pods
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The drums of war are being beaten ever harder in the Matrix. I cannot even listen to any local talk radio anymore.  

pods

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:55 | 5770766 SoilMyselfRotten
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"I have met the enemy and he is"......

 

I don't know who the hell the enemy is anymore, can someone please pass me a scorecard!

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:03 | 5770797 Headbanger
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SEND IN THE B-36's YOU MOOKS!

Better yet!  B-38 Hustlers flying in a few hundred feet off the deck at Mach 1.2 will fuck em up good without dropping single bomb.

And protect our precious bodily fluids...

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:03 | 5770814 Pinto Currency
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Boots on the oil - just a coincidence.

 

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:06 | 5770844 Keyser
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So, the war is between Langley and the Pentagon... Noice!!!

 

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:15 | 5770916 Usurious
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watch them take the Iraqi OIL OFF the market..........

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:25 | 5770962 Wolferl
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Really? An official declaration of war by the US congress? C´mon, since when do `Murican presidents care about the US constitution? Really, i think Obama creates a dangerous precedent here.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:29 | 5770979 NoDebt
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So will this a-hole get called on the carpet for his "no boots on the ground" lie like Bush Sr. did for his "read my lips, no new taxes" lie?

Not a chance.  Both sides want 'glorious' war.  No politician wants to be associated with taxes.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:30 | 5770999 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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A war with ISIS AND Russian backed Syria? Why not declare war on Russia and China while they're at it? The delusional aspirations of CONgress will destroy us all.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 11:01 | 5771146 SoilMyselfRotten
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If people didn't believe their lying eyes over the implosion of Building 7 on 9/11 this revelation will mean little.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 12:53 | 5771785 TruxtonSpangler
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Im beginning to think that medal thing was really a long way to go for a joke. They knew just how ironic it would end up looking hanging around Barry's neck.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 11:38 | 5771322 RaceToTheBottom
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Was there information there or just a pre-release anouncment?  I found no info..  Is that a future release?

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 12:21 | 5771547 Nehweh Gahnin
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So ... someone said that someone else said that Putin said that he has photos, not included, proving what most of us here on ZH already know?  No offense, but wake me when there is something substantive to report.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:38 | 5771041 PrayingMantis
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>>> "Obama: 'We have to twist arms when countries don't do what we need them to'" >>> http://rt.com/news/231279-obama-foreign-policy-power/ ...

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 11:10 | 5771190 Stumpy4516
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Gaius, have you noticed that a US supported war is and has been going on in "Russian backed Syria".  Syria is largely destroyed already.  Russia does nothing.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:29 | 5770993 amadeus39
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ISIS is following Bin Laden's plan to perfection. Bankrupt western developed countries by creating the need for incredibly expensive security measures. Not that we weren't heading in that direction anyway.

 

 

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:48 | 5771080 Max Steel
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first us create them , train them , arm them and now troops on ground to kill them . nice business cycle .

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 13:42 | 5772057 ILLILLILLI
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This award-winning series by Adam Curtiss explains it clearly...

 

https://archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmares-Episode1BabyItsColdOutside

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 12:29 | 5771626 ThroxxOfVron
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Yep.  As I said yesterday.

The army of the CIA vs the army of the Pentagon.

Whatever the outcome of hostilities one thing is certain: the defence contractors will will big.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:09 | 5770867 GeezerGeek
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B-58 Hustler. Convair B-36 Peacemaker was a huge plane with both props - 6, facing backwards - and jet engines too. I remember building plastic models of both.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:35 | 5771029 Calmyourself
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Only a senator or representatives with a son or daughter drawing combat pay should be allowed to vote.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:01 | 5770799 Whoa Dammit
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"War Authorization on Islamic State"--Does that mean we will be fighting in Michigan?

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:10 | 5770874 SoilMyselfRotten
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The entire planet is now the battlefield, so, yup

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:30 | 5770996 knightowl77
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Apparently we will now be at war with EVERYONE since the entire planet is now Inbounds......

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:43 | 5771059 Urban Roman
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<rimshot>

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 11:14 | 5771211 amadeus39
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No. Just the northwestern suburbs of Detroit.

 

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:02 | 5770806 NoDebt
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Why does the administration always refer to them as ISIL when everyone else calls them ISIS?  There's gotta be a conspiracy theory on this.

 

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:26 | 5770971 NoDebt
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Good stuff.  Thank you.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 12:09 | 5771474 Shad_ow
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Too bad the sheep will never take the time to read and learn that Obama is actually in agreement with most of the ISIS agenda.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 12:15 | 5771504 Pretty Maggie M...
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Interesting, my understanding was that the S stood for Sham which is the traditional arabic name for the levant.

The historic geographic region of Syria or Greater Syria (often called Syria-Palestine or the Levant in modern literature, and Sham [?a?m] in traditional Arabic and Islamic literature).
The classical Arabic name for Syria is Sham (Arabic: ?????ash-Sh?m or al-Sh?m, also Cham under French influence). It roughly corresponds to the Levant and Eastern Mediterranean.

 


Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:34 | 5771021 Chupacabra-322
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Why? Because the Criminal Fraud UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. CEO fucked up the re marketing FalseNarative idea from the Pure Evil Psychopaths over at the Criminal CIA.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 11:36 | 5771311 Milestones
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ISIS is the ancient Egeytian Godess of Fertility. IS=Godess RA=Sun God EL=Early Hebrew for God.          Milrstones

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:46 | 5770716 GetZeeGold
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Mission accomplished?

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 11:01 | 5771145 Sleepless Knight
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Not until he kills all the ISIL/enemies in Syria - with some collateral damage of course.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 11:43 | 5771349 OpTwoMistic
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US did not attack ISIL or ISIS in Syria. Barry is supporting them.
Where are the pictures?

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 12:01 | 5771442 JRobby
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So you retract your "I'm first! I'm first" statement?

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:56 | 5770769 NoVa
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he doesn't look too gay in that picture.  Must be something in the white house water or something for him to exit the closet, considering how he looks today - 

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:56 | 5770771 NoVa
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he doesn't look too gay in that picture.  Must be something in the white house water or something for him to exit the closet, considering how he looks today - 

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:13 | 5770906 Zymurguy
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The lame duck is being used quite well by his handlers - you nailed it.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:50 | 5770735 junction
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We already have combat troops in Iraq, but the trouble is they go by names like ISIS, ISIL and FSA.  Proxy jihadist killers who loot and rape and destroy cities.  Well armed initially thanks in large part to the work of Ambassador Chris Stevens, whose in his final minutes in the burning, smoke-filled Benghazi embassy, calling for help that never came, realized the error of his ways.  What happens when those mercenary killers get visas from Obama's CIA henchmen to escape to the USA?  The victims then will be U.S. citizens.  

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:11 | 5770832 giovanni_f
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A bankrupt nation with a bankrupt financial sector and  a maxed-out citizenry decides to run another military operation in order to finally bring peace and prospery to a place on another part of the planet (that was destroyed by this nation in the first place and for reasons that turned out to be blatant lies).

Makes sense.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:12 | 5770892 gimme soma dat
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Nailed it.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:12 | 5770895 GeezerGeek
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We're doing it "for the children", of course!

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:41 | 5771053 Chupacabra-322
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@ Giovanni,

And, it will be called Operation Revolution.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:43 | 5771060 Van_Helsing
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Like all empires, it's time to fall is now. We are watching it happen in our lifetime. Who'd have thunk it....quietly or with chaos, we shall soon find out.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 11:36 | 5771315 markar
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somehow I  was able to give you 5 upvotes for this comment. It deserves every one.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:14 | 5770910 booboo
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ISIS, ISIS, USIL, CIASIL...:whatever. The morning talk shows are going full tard on this scripted war.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:18 | 5770927 overmedicatedun...
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somebody peace prized some folks....  WB7 that's some awesome stuff.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 11:46 | 5771365 OpTwoMistic
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Junction. Glad to see some are awake. Got gold?

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 14:38 | 5772390 GoldSilverBitcoinBug
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No western power do better than that:

Give weapon to ISIS, give them to FSA, and give them also to Kurds.

Then enjoy !

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:07 | 5770848 booboo
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as long as we only refer to them as "the other guys" and not mooooslims.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:10 | 5770877 williambanzai7
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.

Barry has murderous eyes

The Nobel for peace was his prize

He's prepping for war

So Kleptos get MOAR

And Kerry's in charge of the lies

The Limerick King

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:13 | 5770904 GeezerGeek
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Bringing guns to a scimitar fight?

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 11:43 | 5771352 doctor10
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makes one wonder if Brian Williams just received mucho payback for being less than supportive of the 'Bamsters latest "MidEast Peace Initiative"

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:15 | 5770914 Zymurguy
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Combining you're guy's talents... +1000

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 11:15 | 5771216 CuttingEdge
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Nice one, WB.

How about those spineless old fuckwits in Norway grow some balls and retract the prize they gave to this murderous cunt?

 

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 11:10 | 5771192 The.Harmless.Jew
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If a Tribal-chosenite war criminal like Henry Kissinger is still walking free, indeed invited to congressional hearings like some elder statesman, just what chance does anyone have with POTUS? 

 

I mean granted, the chosenites are, well, more chosen, but in the end, both are Zionists and/or in the pockets of Zionists. 

 

 

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 11:43 | 5771356 thinkmoretalkless
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Somewhere between turning the rivers to blood and the locust comes This Administration

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:48 | 5770679 foodstampbarry
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Dickhead is actually going to congress?? What's wrong with his pen and phone?

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:05 | 5770833 NoDebt
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The answer is, of course, that it's purely for political reasons.

My guess is he's trying to paint the Rs with this same brush to gain some kind of advantage for the Ds in 2016.  Or something similar that would make you puke if you knew their actual thinking behind it.

 

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:39 | 5770680 ZH Snob
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staging for a syrian invasion.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:40 | 5771048 Calmyourself
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If they try that, S-400's and  Sunburns go to Syria with Russian operators..

All bets are off at that point

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:39 | 5770683 Nafets93
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<---------- Good
<---------- Bad

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 11:00 | 5771139 doctor10
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lessee here now--so the bankerz sell weaponz to ISIS/ISIL whothehell-and now they want to sell us moar weapons to use against ISI/ISIL?  Swell.

 

Howz this so double-plus good for Joe the Plumber tho?

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:39 | 5770684 Falconsixone
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Oh did he make the news today. That must make him happy.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:39 | 5770685 replaceme
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Any guess on the number of limited use boots on the ground to be asked for here?  On top of the 3,000 unlimited use soldiers already there.

For a guy with a (n honorary) Peace Prize, he's all about blowing up folks.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:54 | 5770757 SnatchnGrab
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The next jump will be 5,000 total, then 10,000 then 20,000. Incremental and all. When we formally put a Combat Brigade into Kuwait then it's on. (Around the 5-10k mark)

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:30 | 5771002 replaceme
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That sounds about right, and yea, I'm sure Hillary will hang this on the Republican congress come election time. 

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:41 | 5770689 Quinvarius
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We have to stop Jordan from invading Iraq defeating ISIS somehow.  They are massing on the border.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:51 | 5771092 halfasleep
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+1 dang, never saw that angle. that's a good one. a neighboring country actually pines for a stable iraq (as they should), and we step in to thwart them. hmm.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 12:43 | 5771729 ThroxxOfVron
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"to stop Jordan from invading Iraq defeating ISIS somehow. "

Stability and peace don't make defence contractors rich.

This is about selling moar weapons and munitions -and it really doens't matter who to or what they are used for.

Go LOOK at the profits that the defence contractors have been making for the last 15 years.  

There is no other sector of the US eCONomy that has seen sustained profits to compare. 

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 12:45 | 5771730 ThroxxOfVron
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By the time Iran joins the fray this shit is going to become so complex that the war gamers and tacticians aren't gonna have any idea of what outcome any given action might produce.  Iraq is become a free-for-all.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:41 | 5770692 agstacks
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back door into Syria

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:48 | 5770723 NoWayJose
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No geographical limits!

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:03 | 5770812 Jethro
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It's a tribute to Trayvon.  Obama is the new "No Limit Nigga" (Trayvon's Twitta account).

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:42 | 5770694 skepsis101
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Do I puke all over my computer, or just buy a plane ticket outta here?

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:16 | 5770918 GeezerGeek
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Congrats, you've just earned yourself an entry on the no-fly list.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:47 | 5770701 JustObserving
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new three-year authorization for the use of force against Islamic State with limits on U.S. combat troops' involvement, lawmakers and congressional aides said."

Obama has bombed seven Muslim countries – Libya, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Somalia, Afghanistan and Pakistan and spent billions destabilizing Ukraine. He continues to drone women and children and wedding parties and has prosecuted more whistleblowers than all previous presidents combined. He founded and funded ISIS. Surely, he deserves another peace prize.

 

ISIS: The jihadist movement stamped “Made in America”

The fact remains, however, that the US, the major European powers, and their regional allies all previously lent financial, military and political support to ISIS and similar groups, which have “Made in the USA” stamped all over them. They have, until now, played a significant part in Washington’s efforts to overthrow the regime of President Bashar al-Assad in Syria, as part of a broader effort to gain control of the region’s vast energy resources and transit routes.

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/07/30/isis-j30.html

Pentagon deploys A-10 attack jets, 300 pilots to Germany amid Ukraine turmoil

February 11, 2015

http://rt.com/news/231255-pentagon-europe-exercises-ukraine/

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:50 | 5770731 Quinvarius
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Obama personally approves drone strikes.  This ahole is rapidly gaining on Stalin on siging death warrants.  Aside from the Socialist dictator template he fits into nicely, can you imagine the level of guilt he carries around for all the deaths he ordered?  His pysche will crack and he will seek religion.  He will begin to talk about his true religion soon and often.  A human being cannot murder this many people without seeking justification and escape.   

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:54 | 5770756 venturen
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I am quite certain Stalin, Hilter and Obama....aren't very religious.  They each worship themselves much more than others or God.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:19 | 5770938 Martian Moon
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Hitler was deeply occultic

 

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 11:23 | 5771244 rejected
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We'll take care of those rascally Ruskies while simultaneously knocking out ISIS and China better watch out too, cuz we're really pissed and don't care how many dead merikans it takes to win!

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:44 | 5770706 Son of Captain Nemo
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So many directions in which to move...

And so little time and money left!

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:46 | 5770715 LawsofPhysics
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Send your girls first motherfucker.

We are done.

Time for a refund or retribution motherfucker.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:47 | 5770720 NoWayJose
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Nothing is better for global oil demand than mobilizing and transporting US troops to the Middle East and letting a bunch of US tanks roll around in a big sandbox.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:50 | 5770740 d edwards
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Limited troop engagement is like being a little bit pregnant.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:48 | 5770721 steveharless
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when will these endless wars ever stop?  remember this?     MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzrJwzYBUkU&spfreload=10&ab_channel=RR44...

 

as long as the industrial war complex machine runs America we are fucked

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 17:36 | 5770764 headhunt
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Really - going all the way back to Bush?

This is all 0bama and he is more fucked up than Bush by a factor of 10.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:50 | 5770733 hotrod
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Why in the world would a terrorist group publish murder videos to obviously provoke an attack by world super powers? It just seems RIGGED for other reasons.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:18 | 5770931 forwardho
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Don't think.

Just feel.

May the farce be with you.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:51 | 5770743 SnatchnGrab
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I called this five years ago. When we tucked tail and ran in 2009 leaving behind BILLIONS of dollars of equipment et al., I said to soldiers and civilian alike, "We will be back, sooner if not later."  Not a person disagreed with me then and nobody disagreed with me in the intervening five (going on six years). No, I'm not Nostradamus (some might say Nostra dumbass, but that's usually after a beer or three), but people were kidding themselves then if they believed that and they're kidding themselves now.

 

Something about this doesn't add up though. If ISIS(L) has 20,000 troops that's about one American Division and a support Brigade. We're supposed to believe they can flip the ENTIRE country of Iraq? Hell we had 500,000 and had issues.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:14 | 5770907 Captain Willard
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Exactly.

Since you've been a good prognosticator, do you care to set odds on the outcome of this game?

Since we're just up against the "JV", will you give me 8-1 on ISIL?

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:51 | 5770744 venturen
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Limited...isn't that what Johnson and Kennedy said about vietnam? 

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:52 | 5770746 overmedicatedun...
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will the troops just say fuck it this time..hope they read some of vietnam war history..we who were there just said "you want that hill LT, go get it yourself!" sadly some brain washed young lt's from west point died that way. heros i guess if you never found out: War is a Racket.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:26 | 5770973 GeezerGeek
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At least back then the US had a draft, which was in no small part responsible for the change in attitude during that misadventure. Parents from the 'greatest' generation, having fought in WW II, didn't want their boomer kids getting blown up, physically or psychologically. I sometimes think that ending the draft was the wrong move, because too many civilians have no direct stake in foreign meddling by the US.

(Or it may be that I'm still annoyed that I got drafted just before the draft was phased out.)

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:37 | 5771038 Blood Spattered...
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Nope, they'll be lining up to kill some savages, and hopefully become the next Chris Kyle.

Funny how this is getting announced now that most of 'Murica is hopped up on violence porn with 'American Sniper'.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 11:25 | 5771247 Stumpy4516
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This is something I have noticed.  It makes me wonder about Eastwood, who I have had some respect for.  But not only is the film about the glory of killing Arabs with no remorse but also about doing it from a distance.  Sniper. drone operator, bomb dropper ..  all would seem heroic now.  I did not see the film (and will not) but did it even mention the lies by the US govt that started this years ago.  I doubt it, probably just reinforces the meme that blindfully volunteering to kill is heroic.

Medals for drone operators, that tells you something.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:52 | 5770749 headhunt
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This is bullshit, pretending to fight a war with 'limited' troops is political speak for 'lets see how many of our troops get killed before we commit more'.

Fight a fucking war or stay the fuck out.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:56 | 5770772 GetZeeGold
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No worries....it's just a police action.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:11 | 5770885 Polymarkos
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"The historians can't seem to settle whether to call this one "The Third Space War" (or the "Fourth"), or whether "The First Interstellar War" fits it better. We just call it "The Bug War" if we call it anything, which we usually don't and in any case the historians date the beginning of "war" after the time I joined my first outfit and ship. Everything up to then and still later were "incidents," "patrols," or "police actions." However, you are just as dead if you buy the farm in an "incident" as you are if you buy it in a declared war."--Starship Troopers, by R. Heinlein.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 11:46 | 5771366 noben
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I can grok that.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:01 | 5770795 optimator
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"Fight a fucking war or stay the fuck out."

Exactly what I said at the start of and all during the years of the Viet Nam war.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 12:50 | 5771775 ThroxxOfVron
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"Fight a fucking war or stay the fuck out. "

There is no need to commit troops or weapons or muitions to fight a war.

Dropping nukes shut down the Japanese.

-I'll bet there is a drone for that, too.

There is no need to fight a conventional war unless the aim is not to force peace through capitulation but to enrich defense contractors and munitions manufacturers.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 13:40 | 5772052 Disc Jockey
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"Just the tip...I promise."

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:56 | 5770774 peggleball
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If only America could invent levitating boots so the could send in soldiers to combat ISIS without putting soldiers on the ground. Easy solutions to complex problems.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:57 | 5770775 peggleball
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If only America could invent levitating boots so they could send in soldiers to combat ISIS without putting soldiers on the ground. Easy solutions to complex problems.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:56 | 5770778 Byte Me
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This picture insults Nobel peace prizes.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:58 | 5770783 Jethro
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He should be racking up the Peace Prizes...

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 09:59 | 5770786 Son of Captain Nemo
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"U.S. President Barack Obama will propose to Congress on Wednesday a new three-year authorization for the use of force against Islamic State with limits on U.S. combat troops' involvement, lawmakers and congressional aides said."...

Propose to Congress authorization for the use of force?...

He don't need no stinkin Congress!...  Remember?....

He doesn't even need to get to that Constitutional question!...


Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:00 | 5770788 RabbitChow
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Starting world war III in 3... 2.... 1...

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:00 | 5770789 SpanishGoop
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"war on, drumroll, a nation that doesn't technically even exist: the Islamic State."

 

Well that's what you get when you use 'state' in your name.


Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:00 | 5770790 Fix It Again Timmy
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Iraq - a concise history....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpgJzlY9y8A



 


 


Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:00 | 5770791 madbraz
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if he has no moral issues with using drones to kill other people, why not send 1,000 drones to do the job?  he wins, contractors win, mothers of soldiers who stay home win, terrorists win...everybody wins.  sounds like an keynesian idea, no downside, never, just like BTFD

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:01 | 5770800 epoxe
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Why keep up this charade at great expense? If this is going to be our policy just carpet bomb the entire middle east until not a lizzard survives and be done with it.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:02 | 5770808 FreeShitter
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Full circle Jerk.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:04 | 5770816 optimator
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Seems like just yesterday the MSM was dunning Dr. Ron Paul's foreign policy paper.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:05 | 5770829 Polymarkos
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The Nobel PEACE prize winning Prezzydint....

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:05 | 5770835 LongSilverJohn
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I'd like to know what happens when ISIS is toppled? Is it back to where we started? The lack of advance planning for post-conflict governance is what was missing the first time around in Iraq... (read Cobra II for the full story). Maybe Jordan can take part of Syria and Iraq, the Kurds can set up their own state (hopefully without pissing off the Turks too bad), and the Shia can keep Bagdad. Oh yeah, Kuwait can take Basra oil fields...

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:07 | 5770850 SpanishGoop
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Send in the boots !

 

 

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:20 | 5770942 Mi Naem
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"Send in the boots !"

Agreed, except leave the troops and hardware home:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RFH7C3vkK4

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:11 | 5770868 22winmag
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Spoiler Alert: Most or all Tea Party fakers will vote in favor of this.

 

The majority of Tea Party members voted in favor of Obama's war funding package in '09 and '15 will be no different.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:16 | 5770922 Tsar Pointless
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Yep. He's giving the "end-timers" and doomsday preppers what they want. He's giving us all what most of us want - a *strong* president who will fight those ter'rists over there, so they don't get us over here.

These people don't want us giving two billion dollars a year to some deadbeat country, but man will they support spending hundreds of billions of dollars on weaponry to blow them to bits.

Many of these same people like to call themselves Christians, but I doubt very seriously Jesus would want anything to do with these dipshits.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 11:11 | 5771197 rejected
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I'm skeeerd Mr. Obama,,, I'm skeeerd!

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:17 | 5770925 Polymarkos
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What are you on about? You must be an idiot.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:10 | 5770878 RealityCheque
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Golf clap for golf-cunt.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:13 | 5770898 Son of Captain Nemo
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Navy Rear Adm. John Kirby was asked Tuesday if there was any doubt who killed the aid worker.

He replied: "No doubt. ISIL," using the initials the group is known by.

Admiral Kirby redacted:

Well actually it was some of our guys... with this guy in Washington calling for the "head shot"! 

Either that or she is with James Foley and Steven Sotloff under new identities in an American or British "protectorate"...

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:22 | 5770919 hotrod
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That was easy. Just produce a few videos

Cant imagine losing a family member over there while fighting the fabricated boogeyman.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:17 | 5770924 Youri Carma
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War is peace and the Nobel Prize comission knows that.

So if you get awarded a Nobel Prize for establishing peace you should refuse that.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:19 | 5770940 Polymarkos
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  • To permit irresponsible authority is to sow disaster; to hold a man responsible for anything he does not control is to behave with blind idiocy. The unlimited democracies were unstable because their citizens were not responsible for the fashion in which they exerted their sovereign authority . . . other than through the tragic logic of history. The unique 'poll tax' that we must pay was unheard of. No attempt was made to determine whether a voter was socially responsible to the extent of his literally unlimited authority. If he voted the impossible, the disastrous possible happened instead—and responsibility was then forced on him willy-nilly and destroyed both him and his foundationless temple.--Starship Troopers by Heinlein.
Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:20 | 5770945 vyeung
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lets bomb everyone. NOBLE PRIZE IS A SHAM!

 

When the economic situation is in the hole BOMB EVERYONE, when there is social disorder BOMB EVERYONE, when you are trying to cover your own BULLSHT BOMB EVERYONE! Whats new with the fascists in the White house and West Minster. Your Zionist masters demand it!

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:24 | 5770965 Zodiac
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Obama can't be trusted to not fuck up a hamburger order at McDonalds, much less to effectively orchestrate the next World War.  This is what happens when someone makes it through his life on affirmative action programs: gross incompetence.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:25 | 5770969 LFMayor
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a nation that doesn't technically exist...
war on poverty
war on illiteracy
war on drugs
now substitue awareness for war

we have all sorts of fake battles now, ones that milquetoast people can win and get a participation trophy.  Welcome to the effeminization.  Are you not AWARE?

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:36 | 5770986 hotrod
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Wouldn't it be easier just to tell all American private citizens to leave Iraq and Syria?  How many thousands of American soldiers need die to avenge the(alleged) ISIL caused death of a girl obviously living among STREET GANGS.

I am sure that if WHITEY me ventured into certain Gang areas of New York or Chicago I would be killed.  So bomb Chicago and New York?  No I was stupid for being there.

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 13:15 | 5771918 Farmer Joe in B...
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So true.  It's hard not to empathize with the families of those killed over there. 

BUT.... when you go into that war-torn part of the world where there are countless assholes who want to kidnap/torture/kill you simply for being a westerner, then you kind of deserve whatever awful fate befalls you....

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:36 | 5771032 Calculus99
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War on drugs - How do we know when we;ve won? No drug addicts left, or perhaps 90% addication reduction? Will there be a ticker tape parade?

War on Poverty - how do we know when it's won? Not one hungry child, or perhaps a 90% reduction in poverty (but what about 80%, isn;t that good enough). Will there be a ticker tape parade?

War on Terror - how do we know we've won? No terrorists left in the world or a 90% reduction etc etc? Will there be a ticker tape parade? 

Folks, all these 'war on' means you've being PLAYED if you believe the claptrap. But hey, they're great for garning votes, making money if you're in the right inductries and of course plenty of government jobs to dole out. Like I said, we're all being PLAYED for mugs. 

 

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 13:13 | 5771904 Farmer Joe in B...
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I'd like to see what happens to all those cushy government jobs (and pensions) when we are forced to admit our insolvency...?? 

"Extend and pretend" will soon run its course....

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:47 | 5771077 Monetas
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Liquidate the useless Nobel prize fund .... invest the money in a defense industry IPO !

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:51 | 5771094 ersatz007
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If we only found out about ISIS this summer, then what the F has the NSA been doing with all our money all this time??? 

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 11:07 | 5771177 rejected
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Spying on the governments real enemy...

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:53 | 5771101 dsty
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These  items may explain why Obama is making this move

Russian official: We could help Iran attack Saudi Arabia if US arms Ukraine

http://www.businessinsider.com/russian-official-we-could-help-iran-attac...

Russian bombers becoming more aggressive near US territory

http://news.usni.org/2015/02/10/west-norad-head-says-russia-increasing-a...

Top US officials back $1 billion lethal aid to Ukraine

http://www.timesofisrael.com/top-us-house-reps-back-1-billion-in-ukraine...

 

 

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 11:29 | 5771279 Miketheterrible
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I hope Russia starts funding anti american groups in Mexico and arms them, so the US politicians can show their hypocracy again, in sich a short time.

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