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Feds Hold Hearing On Whether They Should ‘Regulate’ Sites Like Zero Hedge
Submitted by Michael Snyder via The Economic Collapse blog,
The control freaks that run our government always seem to want to “regulate” things that they do not like. And so it should be no surprise that there is a renewed push to regulate independent news websites. Sites like the Drudge Report, The Economic Collapse Blog , and Zero Hedge have been a thorn in the side of the establishment for years. You see, the truth is that approximately 90 percent of all news and entertainment in this country is controlled by just six giant media corporations. That is why the news seems to be so similar no matter where you turn. But in recent years the alternative media has exploded in popularity.
People are hungry for the truth, and an increasing number of Americans are waking up to the fact that they are not getting the truth from the corporate-controlled media. But as the alternative media has grown, it was only going to be a matter of time before the establishment started cracking down on it. At the moment it is just the FEC and the FCC, but surely this is just the beginning. Our “Big Brother” government ultimately wants to control every area of our lives – and this especially applies to our ability to communicate freely with one another.
The Federal Election Commission is an example of a federal rule making body that has gotten wildly out of control. Since just about anything that anyone says or does could potentially “influence an election”, it is not difficult for them to come up with excuses to regulate things that they do not like.
And on Wednesday, the FEC held a hearing on whether or not they should regulate political speech on blogs, websites and YouTube videos…
The Federal Election Commission (FEC) is holding a hearing today to receive public feedback on whether it should create new rules regulating political speech, including political speech on the Internet that one commissioner warned could affect blogs, YouTube videos and even websites like the Drudge Report.
If you do not think that this could ever happen, you should consider what almost happened at the FEC last October…
In October, then FEC Vice Chairwoman Ann M. Ravel promised that she would renew a push to regulate online political speech following a deadlocked commission vote that would have subjected political videos and blog posts to the reporting and disclosure requirements placed on political advertisers who broadcast on television. On Wednesday, she will begin to make good on that promise.
“Some of my colleagues seem to believe that the same political message that would require disclosure if run on television should be categorically exempt from the same requirements when placed in the Internet alone,” Ravel said in an October statement. “As a matter of policy, this simply does not make sense.”
“In the past, the Commission has specifically exempted certain types of Internet communications from campaign finance regulations,” she lamented. “In doing so, the Commission turned a blind eye to the Internet’s growing force in the political arena.”
As our nation continues to drift toward totalitarianism, it is only a matter of time before political speech on the Internet is regulated. It is already happening in other countries all around the globe, and control freak politicians such as Ravel will just keep pushing until they get what they want.
The way that they are spinning it this time around is that they desperately need to do something “about money in politics”…
Noting the 32,000 public comments that came into the FEC in advance of the hearing, Democratic Commissioner Ellen L. Weintraub said, “75 percent thought that we need to do more about money in politics, particularly in the area of disclosure. And I think that’s something that we can’t ignore.”
And it isn’t just a few control freak Democrats that want these changes.
The Brennan Center for Justice, the Campaign Legal Center, the League of Women Voters and Public Citizen were all expected to testify in favor of more government regulation on the Internet at the hearing.
Fortunately, other organizations are doing what they can to warn the general population. For example, the following comes from the Electronic Frontier Foundation…
Increased regulation of online speech is not only likely to chill participation in the public debate, but it may also threaten individual speakers’ privacy and right to post anonymously. In so doing, it may undermine two goals of campaign finance reform: protecting freedom of political speech and expanding political participation.
As we stated in our joint comments to the FEC back in 2005 [pdf], “the Internet provides a counter-balance to the undue dominance that ‘big money’ has increasingly wielded over the political process in the past half-century.” We believe that heightened regulation of online political speech will hamper the Internet’s ability to level the playing field.
Meanwhile, Barack Obama and the FCC are using net neutrality as an excuse to impose lots of new regulations on Internet activity.
Ajit Pai is an FCC commissioner who is opposed to this plan. He recently sent out a tweet holding what he calls “President Obama’s 332-page plan to regulate the Internet“…
Ajit Pai’s description of “President Obama’s 332-page plan to regulate the Internet” sounds Orwellian. He tweeted a picture of himself holding the 332-page plan just below a picture of a smiling Barack Obama with a comment, “I wish the public could see what’s inside.” The implication depicted Obama as George Orwell’s “Big Brother.”
Pai also released a statement: “President Obama’s plan marks a monumental shift toward government control of the Internet. It gives the FCC the power to micromanage virtually every aspect of how the Internet works,” he said. “The plan explicitly opens the door to billions of dollars in new taxes on broadband… These new taxes will mean higher prices for consumers and more hidden fees that they have to pay.”
Here is the photo that he posted with his tweet…
After what we went through with Obamacare, one can only imagine what is inside that monstrosity of a document.
Regulation of the Internet is here, and it is only going to get worse.
But at least we are not like Saudi Arabia just yet. Recently, a Saudi blogger was sentenced to 1,000 lashes for “insulting Islam“.
So we should be thankful for the freedoms that we still have. But without a doubt, governments all over the world are slowly but surely cracking down on Internet freedom.
If we do not stand up for our rights now, one day we may wake up and find that our freedom to communicate with one another over the Internet is totally gone.
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'Behave' and you won't be regulated.
http://www.safehaven.com/article/36659/greshams-law-predicts-the-lbmas-end
http://seekingalpha.com/article/2909656-greshams-law-predicts-the-lbmas-end-video
Tyler, Tyler, Tyler, I think you've done a Brian Williams misremembersentation as to what this is all about. This hearing isn't about regulating sites like ours. It's about setting up the regulations so we can enjoy nice vacatoins at Club Gitmo to enjoy a proper re-education under government supervision of what the "new and improved" Constitution is all about.
"Public feedback"- oh tell me WHERE they get this "public feedback"? What a crock of shit- Totalitarianism, indeed......
Now if only there were enough of them to get all our guns
Bout time!
Too much dangerous info being discussed on the internet.
The U.S. government hates us for our freedom!
Lol Paveway, and all I see in that photo is the Obama joker face.
The only thing wrong with the Internet is the blood-sucking NSA slowing down traffic.
The DC vampires won't be happy until your ISP bill doubles, then inflates 10-20% every year thereafter.
And once they take over the Net, you will comply... or else.
Those who resist their "regulating" will get a zero-dark-thirty FBI raid that goes something like this...
"Sorry, Mr Durden, but we've found evidence of kiddie-pron in you system. We're impounding and confiscating all your servers and equipment and shutting your website down."
Lights out.
China already has internet censorship and Russia is increasing internet regulation and control, so what do we think, we're special?
http://www.andrewspencer.uk.com/russia-increasingly-regulates-and-contro...
Tell Kal Penn to fuck himself.
Who's kal Penn?
Sean Penn's brother in law twice removed who's also his cousin and uncle's half brother from either a different mother or father, but not both which cannot at this time be ascertained. Who gives a fuck who he is?
Fuck Him Anyway!
lol @ knuckles.
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My bad guys - i skimmed the article because i was so pissed and just now realized after properly reading that Ajit is showing us the horseshit. But he does look like Kal Penn...just hopefully he doesnt suck dick.
I even downvoted myself for being a stunned cunt.lol. I need to get baked...
Get your www.zerohedge.com.hk domain and go on...
Folks, the rules changes are already written.. They won’t release it for review prior to implementing it on Feb 25. We won’t understand what they did until after then. Three of the five on the commission are Obama’s minions. This is a done deal unless Congress goes after Obama for an abuse of power (fat chance).
Which Fed are they talking about, the Federal Government, or the Federal Reserve?
Define the actual difference and we'll tell you.
No talk of "regulating" govt news sites, like ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN.....
Boehner, "We strongly object to this massive power grab by the President and that is why we are going to give him another $1.1T."
No shit, Boehner is a feckless fucktard.
Websites are the modern equivalent of posters & writings created by anonymous subjects nailed to the buildings & trees of the 18th century calling kings & queens idiots, there is no difference.
And they still don't like it ;-)
He's another statist Academic under the Obama Admin. Looks like he's fucking us more than we give him credit for.
More hoodwinking...bulshit within bulshit.
Folks, as Manthong stated above it is a done deal. Levin had one of the independent commissioners on his show the other night. These are Regulations, not 'laws'. Far more insidious. No public release before implementation.
http://www.marklevinshow.com/common/page.php?pt=FCC+Commish%3A+%22This+I...
I love the reality of the open, transparent, free and inclusive, diverse, loving and golly jeez cheese fucking wiz leader of ours.
If they do that I will shut down cable and Internet and throw away my smartphone and tablet
I'll save about 150 per month
Back in the USSA!
. . . and boycott on-line commerce generally. Let's seem how Amazon's no profit business model looks with negative top line growth.
Harbanger, yes, yes I fucking do think we are something special... Our rights are endowed by our creator, I will suffer to protect those will you?
STFU and pass the ammuniton, kid.
if this passes, this is truly the rubicon. all downhill from here. the internet is probably the last hope at any liberty. might as well move to north korea
I like the Orwelian speak of calling these things hearings. Those shittards aren't hearing anything other than what they want to hear. Fuck them in the goat ass. God I hate this statists....
Well how can they hear any feedback when they won't even let you see the regulations before they pass them?
Isn't "Hearing" glib? Like fingernails on a chalkboard. Also "Governance" and "Sustainability." Glibness is a defining characteristic of Newspeak.
Zero Hedge can post articles on power poles and "folks" can staple thier comments next to it.
Don't worry everyone, I am certain that the ACLU will be all over this......
They will be regulated too!!!
Of course they should regulate websites, dangerous CrimeThink should be opposed in all of its forms.
As much as I hate to give Bush credit for anything (but genocide), the original quote is taken from his Sept. 20th, 2001 address to congress and the nation and altered for comedic intent. I harbor no delusions that this disclaimer will in any way keep me out of the FEMA ovens.
Don't be giving them ideas...
The Criminal Fraud UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. & the Pure Evil Criminal Psychopaths at the CIA, NSA & State Dept can no longer CONTROL the masses via PsyOp, Propaganda & Scripted False Narratives written by the Criminal Psychopaths the CIA then peddled for mass consumption by the Sheeple.
Hence, more Control for "your Safety", "safety of the children" or some made up outside threat IE North Korea / Russia / China will be the cover to use to gain Control & regulation.
The Criminal Fraud UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. CEO ( President) & Board of Directors (CONgress) have already been NSA Balckmailed & compromised by the Controllers ( Banksters). They will be more than willing to pass any Criminal Fraud Legislation to obtain that Control over the masses Psyche.
No problem, the internet is worldwide - just get yourself hosted in another country dude where US law does not apply
Uh, they are using the interpretation of the telecom act to give them the powers to regulate the internet like a utility. So unless I relocate to said other country, odds are one day there will be flash bangs in my living room and my pets sawed in half with a 12 gauge from a DHS Storm Trooper.
The way global authoritarianism is trending..odds are that even if you did relocate they will find you. Better to fight standing then die running or on your knees.
That why now we need global governance. You know, to collect taxes from the evil Corps, save the planet from climate change and to hold those spreading lies and disinformation accountable.
With billions of hand held two way radio transceivers (e.g. cellphones with WiFi) running applications like FireChat, it is not possible to regulate our ability to widely exchange information. So, trying to regulate the internet would not stop us from communicating. It would just piss us off.
Disclosure
http://disclosureproject.org/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDuqZbjxB_E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGyFWyNuF3s
You miss the point. This is not about preventing all communication, it's about keeping information away from the general population by controlling the Overton window of ideas. They are perception managers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window
Interesting. Loathesome and strangely pathetic, but interesting.
The govt is awesome! They just want to make the interwebs more fair for us!
So "on-line" political speech is to be regulated, but...
... TV channels will not be regulated as they have no political 'speech' or agenda on them whatsoever?
Glad you found the light switch.
The little people MUST be stopped
They will be, if they don't organize and form their own activist lobbies.
How the hell do you think the 2% got to be where they are?
But try telling that to those still stuck in the Frontier era, where it's every frontiersman or family for themselves. What works in the plains or woods is not enough in modern, urban environments.
You mean like Bundy Ranch.
To hell with 'behaving'. I'll just have a thicker FBI file.
Freedom of speech? Next time you see a wounded vet, tell them they got maimed for nothing.
To protect the petrodollar, which if they knew anything about, they probably wouldn't have decided to "fight for our freedoms".
Maybe you should have honed some critical thinking skills before you enlisted blindly under the banner of "freedom".
I'm so tired of that shit. Go ahead and downvote, because its as true today as it has been for centuries.
Most vets would probably punch you in the face for saying that. The majority believe in the whole fighting for freedom stuff.
And the minority that know the truth is growing daily.
Here's a small taste of the ongoing purge. The troops are waking up to what's coming:
The following is a list of our
> military elite who
> have been dismissed or
> "fired" under Obama
>
> Commanding
> Generals fired:
> ? General John R. Allen-U.S. Marines
> Commander
> International Security
> Assistance Force [ISAF] (Nov 2012)
> ? Major
> General Ralph Baker (2 Star)-U.S. Army
> Commander of the Combined Joint
> Task
> Force Horn in Africa (April 2013)
> ? Major General Michael
> Carey (2 Star)-U.S. Air Force Commander of the
> 20th US Air Force in
> charge of 9,600
> people and 450 Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles
> (Oct
> 2013)
> ? Colonel James Christmas-U.S.
> Marines Commander 22nd
> Marine
> Expeditionary Unit & Commander Special-Purpose
> Marine
> Air-Ground Task Force Crisis
> Response Unit (July 2013)
> ? Major
> General Peter Fuller-U.S. Army Commander in
> Afghanistan (May 2011)
> ? Major General Charles M.M.
> Gurganus-U.S. Marine Corps
> Regional
> Commander of SW and I Marine Expeditionary Force in
> Afghanistan
> (Oct 2013)
> ? General Carter F. Ham-U.S.
> Army African Command (Oct 2013)
> ? Lieutenant General David H.
> Huntoon (3 Star), Jr.-U.S. Army
> 58th
> Superintendent of the US Military Academy at West Point, NY
> (2013)
> ? Command Sergeant Major Don B
> Jordan-U.S. Army
> 143rd Expeditionary
> Sustainment Command (suspended Oct 2013)
> ? General James Mattis-U.S.
> Marines Chief of CentCom (May 2013)
> ? Colonel Daren Margolin-U.S.
> Marine in charge of Quantico 's
> Security Battalion (Oct 2013)
> ? General Stanley
> McChrystal-U.S. Army Commander Afghanistan (June 2010)
> ? General David D.
> McKiernan-U.S. Army Commander Afghanistan (2009)
> ? General David
> Petraeus-Director of CIA from September 2011 to November
> 2012 &
> U.S. Army Commander
> International Security Assistance Force [ISAF] and
> Commander U.S. Forces Afghanistan [USFOR-A]
> (Nov 2012)
> ? Brigadier General Bryan
> Roberts-U.S. Army Commander 2nd Brigade (May 2013)
> ?Major General Gregg A.
> Sturdevant-U.S. Marine Corps Director of
> Strategic Planning and Policy for the U.S.
> Pacific Command & Commander
> of
> Aviation Wing at Camp Bastion, Afghanistan (Sept 2013)
> ? Colonel Eric Tilley-U.S. Army
> Commander of Garrison Japan (Nov 2013)
> ? Brigadier General Bryan
> Wampler-U.S. Army Commanding General of
> 143rd Expeditionary Sustainment Command of the
> 1st Theater Sustainment
> Command [TSC]
> (suspended Oct 2013)
> Commanding Admirals fired:
> ? Rear Admiral Charles
> Gaouette-U.S. Navy Commander
> John C.
> Stennis Carrier Strike Group Three (Oct 2012)
> ? Vice Admiral Tim Giardina(3
> Star, demoted to 2 Star)-U.S. Navy Deputy
> Commander of the US Strategic Command,
> Commander of the Submarine Group
> Trident, Submarine Group 9 and Submarine Group
> 10 (Oct 2013)
> Naval Officers fired: (All in
> 2011)
> ? Captain David Geisler-U.S.
> Navy Commander Task Force 53 in
> Bahrain (Oct
> 2011)
> ? Commander Laredo Bell-U.S.
> Navy Commander Naval Support Activity
> Saratoga Springs , NY (Aug 2011)
> ? Lieutenant Commander Kurt
> Boenisch-Executive Officer amphibious
> transport dock Ponce (Apr 2011)
> ? Commander Nathan Borchers-U.S.
> Navy Commander destroyer
> Stout (Mar
> 2011)
> ? Commander Robert Brown-U.S.
> Navy Commander Beachmaster
> Unit 2 Fort Story
> , VA (Aug 2011)
> ? Commander Andrew
> Crowe-Executive Officer Navy Region Center
> Singapore (Apr 2011)
> ? Captain Robert
> Gamberg-Executive Officer carrier Dwight D.
> Eisenhower (Jun 2011)
> ? Captain Rex Guinn-U.S. Navy
> Commander Navy Legal Service office
> Japan
> (Feb 2011)
> ? Commander Kevin Harms- U.S.
> Navy Commander Strike Fighter
> Squadron 137
> aboard the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln (Mar 2011)
> ? Lieutenant Commander Martin
> Holguin-U.S. Navy Commander
> mine
> countermeasures Fearless (Oct 2011)
> ? Captain Owen Honors-U.S. Navy
> Commander aircraft carrier
> USS
> Enterprise (Jan 2011)
> ? Captain Donald Hornbeck-U.S.
> Navy Commander Destroyer
> Squadron 1 San
> Diego (Apr 2011)
> ? Rear Admiral Ron Horton-U.S.
> Navy Commander Logistics Group,
> Western
> Pacific (Mar 2011)
> ? Commander Etta Jones-U.S. Navy
> Commander amphibious
> transport dock Ponce
> (Apr 2011)
> ? Commander Ralph
> Jones-Executive Officer amphibious
> transport
> dock Green Bay (Jul 2011)
> ? Commander Jonathan
> Jackson-U.S. Navy Commander
> Electronic
> Attack Squadron 134, deployed aboard carrier Carl Vinson
> (Dec 2011)
> ? Captain Eric Merrill-U.S. Navy
> Commander submarine Emory
> S. Land (Jul
> 2011)
> ? Captain William Mosk-U.S. Navy
> Commander Naval Station Rota ,
> U.S. Navy
> Commander Naval Activities Spain (Apr 2011)
> ? Commander Timothy Murphy-U.S.
> Navy Commander Electronic
> Attack
> Squadron 129 at Naval Air Station Whidbey Island , WA
> (Apr
> 2011)
> ? Commander Joseph Nosse-U.S.
> Navy Commander
> ballistic-missile
> submarine Kentucky (Oct 2011)
> ? Commander Mark Olson-U.S. Navy
> Commander destroyer
> The Sullivans FL (Sep
> 2011)
> ? Commander John
> Pethel-Executive Officer amphibious transport dock
> New York (Dec 2011)
> ? Commander Karl Pugh-U.S. Navy
> Commander
> Electronic Attack Squadron
> 141 Whidbey Island , WA (Jul 2011)
> ? Commander Jason Strength-U.S.
> Navy Commander of Navy Recruiting
> District Nashville , TN (Jul 2011)
> ? Captain Greg Thomas-U.S. Navy
> Commander Norfolk Naval Shipyard
> (May
> 2011)
> ? Commander Mike Varney-U.S.
> Navy Commander attack submarine
> Connecticut
> (Jun 2011)
> ? Commander Jay Wylie-U.S. Navy
> Commander destroyer Momsen
> (Apr
> 2011)
> Naval Officers fired: (All in
> 2012):
> ? Commander Alan C.
> Aber-Executive Officer Helicopter Maritime
> Strike Squadron 71 (July 2012)
> ? Commander Derick Armstrong-
> U.S. Navy Commander missile
> destroyer
> USS The Sullivans (May 2012)
> ? Commander Martin Arriola- U.S.
> Navy Commander destroyer
> USS Porter (Aug
> 2012)
> ? Captain Antonio Cardoso- U.S.
> Navy Commander Training Support
> Center
> San Diego (Sep 2012)
> ? Captain James CoBell- U.S.
> Navy Commander Oceana
> Naval Air
> Station's Fleet Readiness Center Mid-Atlantic (Sep
> 2012)
> ? Captain Joseph E. Darlak- U.S.
> Navy Commander
> frigate USS Vandegrift
> (Nov 2012)
> ? Captain Daniel Dusek-U.S. Navy
> Commander USS Bonhomme
> ? Commander David
> Faught-Executive Officer destroyer Chung-Hoon
> (Sep 2012)
> ? Commander Franklin Fernandez-
> U.S. Navy Commander
> Naval Mobile
> Construction Battalion 24 (Aug 2012)
> ? Commander Ray Hartman- U.S.
> Navy Commander
> Amphibious dock-landing
> ship Fort McHenry (Nov 2012)
> ? Commander Shelly
> Hakspiel-Executive Officer
> Navy Drug
> Screening Lab San Diego (May 2012)
> ? Commander Jon Haydel- U.S.
> Navy Commander USS San
> Diego (Mar
> 2012)
> ? Commander Diego Hernandez-
> U.S. Navy
> Commander ballistic-missile
> submarine USS Wyoming (Feb 2012)
> ? Commander Lee Hoey- U.S. Navy
> Commander
> Drug Screening Laboratory, San
> Diego (May 2012)
> ? Commander Ivan
> Jimenez-Executive Officer
> frigate
> Vandegrift (Nov 2012)
> ? Commander Dennis Klein- U.S.
> Navy Commander
> submarine USS Columbia (May
> 2012)
> ? Captain Chuck Litchfield- U.S.
> Navy Commander
> assault ship USS Essex (Jun
> 2012)
> ? Captain Marcia Kim Lyons- U.S.
> Navy Commander
> Naval Health Clinic New
> England (Apr 2012)
> ? Captain Robert Marin- U.S.
> Navy Commander
> cruiser USS Cowpens (Feb
> 2012)
> ? Captain Sean McDonell- U.S.
> Navy Commander Seabee
> reserve unit Naval
> Mobile Construction Battalion 14 FL (Nov 2012)
> ? Commander Corrine Parker- U.S.
> Navy Commander
> Fleet Logistics Support
> Squadron 1 (Apr 2012)
> ? Captain Liza Raimondo- U.S.
> Navy Commander Naval Health
> Clinic
> Patuxent River , MD (Jun 2012)
> ? Captain Jeffrey Riedel-
> Program manager,
> Littoral Combat Ship
> program (Jan 2012)
> ? Commander Sara Santoski- U.S.
> Navy Commander
> Helicopter Mine
> Countermeasures
> Squadron 15 (Sep
> 2012)
> ? Commander Kyle G.
> Strudthoff-Executive
> Officer
> Helicopter Sea Combat Squadron 25 (Sep 2012)
> ? Commander Sheryl Tannahill-
> U.S. Navy Commander
> Navy Operational Support
> Center [NOSC] Nashville , TN (Sep 2012)
> ? Commander Michael Ward- U.S.
> Navy Commander submarine
> USS Pittsburgh (Aug
> 2012)
> ? Captain Michael Wiegand- U.S.
> Navy Commander
> Southwest Regional
> Maintenance Center (Nov 2012)
> ? Captain Ted Williams- U.S.
> Navy Commander
> amphibious command ship
> Mount Whitney (Nov 2012)
> ? Commander Jeffrey Wissel- U.S.
> Navy Commander of
> Fleet Air Reconnaissance
> Squadron 1 (Feb 2012)
> Naval Officers fired: (All in
> 2013):
> ? Lieutenant Commander Lauren
> Allen-Executive Officer
> submarine
> Jacksonville (Feb 2013)
> ? Reserve Captain Jay
> Bowman-U.S. Navy Commander Navy
> Operational Support Center [NOSC] Fort Dix , NJ
> (Mar 2013)
> ? Captain William Cogar-U.S.
> Navy Commander hospital
> ship Mercy's
> medical treatment facility (Sept 2013)
> ? Commander Steve
> Fuller-Executive Officer
> frigate Kauffman
> (Mar 2013)
> ? Captain Shawn
> Hendricks-Program Manager for
> naval
> enterprise IT networks (June 2013)
> ? Captain David Hunter-U.S. Navy
> Commander of Maritime
> Expeditionary
> Security Squadron 12 & Coastal Riverine Group 2
> (Feb 2013)
> ? Captain Eric Johnson-U.S. Navy
> Chief of Military
> Entrance Processing
> Command at
> Great Lakes Naval Training
> Center, IL (2013)
> ? Captain Devon Jones-U.S. Navy
> Commander Naval Air
> Facility El Centro
> , CA (July 2013)
> ? Captain Kevin Knoop-U.S. Navy
> Commander
> hospital ship Comfort's
> medical treatment facility (Aug 2013)
> ? Lieutenant Commander Jack
> O'Neill-U.S. Navy Commander
> Operational Support Center Rock Island , IL
> (Mar 2013)
> ? Commander Allen
> Maestas-Executive Officer
> Beachmaster Unit 1
> (May 2013)
> ? Commander Luis Molina-U.S.
> Navy Commander
> submarine Pasadena (Jan
> 2013)
> ? Commander James
> Pickens-Executive Officer frigate Gary
> (Feb 2013)
> ? Lieutenant Commander Mark
> Rice-U.S. Navy Commander
> Mine
> Countermeasures ship Guardian (Apr 2013)
> ? Commander Michael Runkle-U.S.
> Navy Commander of
> Mobile Diving and Salvage
> Unit 2 (May 2013)
> ? Commander Jason
> Stapleton-Executive Office Patrol
> Squadron 4 in Hawaii (Mar 2013)
> ? Commander Nathan Sukols-U.S.
> Navy Commander
> submarine Jacksonville (Feb
> 2013)
> ? Lieutenant Daniel
> Tyler-Executive Officer
> Mine Countermeasures
> ship Guardian (Apr 2013)
> ? Commander Edward White-U.S.
> Navy Commander Strike
> Fighter Squadron
> 106 (Aug 2013)
> ? Captain Jeffrey Winter-U.S.
> Navy Commander of
> Carrier Air Wing 17 (Sept
> 2013)
> ? Commander Thomas Winter-U.S.
> Navy Commander
> submarine Montpelier (Jan
> 2013)
> ? Commander Corey Wofford- U.S.
> Navy Commander
> frigate Kauffman (Feb
> 2013)
>
>
>
>
>
> Since Barack Obama has been in the
> White House, high ranking
> military officers
> have been removed from their positions at a rate
> that is absolutely unprecedented. Things have
> gotten so bad
> that a number of retired
> generals are publicly speaking out
> about the
> 'purge' of the U.S. military that they believe is
> taking
> place. As you will see below, dozens
> of highly decorated military
> leaders have
> been dismissed from their positions over the
> past few years. So why is this happening? What
> is going on right
> now is absolutely crazy
> especially during a time of peace. Is there
> a
> deliberate attempt to reshape the military and remove
> those
> who don't adhere to the proper
> 'viewpoints' ? Does someone
> out
> there feel a need to get officers that won't cooperate
> out
> of the way?
> Throughout world
> history, whatever comes next after a military
> purge is never good. If this continues, what is
> the U.S. military
> going to look like in a
> few years? Perhaps you are reading this and
> you think that 'purge' is too strong a
> word for what is taking place. Well,
> just
> consider the following quotes from some very highly
> decorated retired officers:
> -Retired Army Major General Paul
> Vallely:
> The White House protects their own.
> That's why they stalled
> on the
> investigation into fast and furious, Benghazi and
> Obamacare. He's intentionally weakening and
> gutting our military,
> Pentagon and reducing
> us as a superpower, and anyone in the
> ranks who disagrees or speaks out is being
> purged.
> -Retired Army Major
> General Patrick Brady: There is no doubt he
> (Obama) is intent on emasculating the military
> and will fire anyone
> who disagrees with
> him.
> -Retired Army Lt. General
> William G. Jerry Boykin: Over the past three
> years, it is unprecedented for the number of
> four-star generals to be
> relieved of
> duty, and not necessarily relieved for cause.
>
>
>
>
>
> -Retired Navy Captain Joseph John: I
> believe there are more than 137
> officers who
> have been forced out or given bad evaluation
> reports
> so they will never make Flag
> (officer), because of their failure to comply
> to certain POTUS views.
>
>
>
>
>
> A (gutless) Pentagon official who
> asked to remain nameless because they were
> not authorized to speak on the matter said even
> young officers, down
> through the ranks have been told not to
> talk about Obama or the
> politics of the
> White House. They are purging everyone and if you
> want to keep your job,,, just keep your mouth
> shut. Now this trend
> appears to be
> accelerating.
>
>
> General Vallely's comment:
> Coincidence? Every communist regime on the
> planet did this as
> soon as they gained
> power. I am doing my part by sending this
> email, I hope you will do the
> same.
>
>
> Paul (General Paul Vallely)
Can't recall if it was commonsense show or elsewhere where it was postulated/stated that the sub-3.0 earthquakes in CT were actually underground complexes hit in retaliation by someone on the disgruntled list above ^^^^^
You are correct, the minority is growing, but is it really a difference maker? Talked to one yesterday and we discussed the above. The problem that I see is that just because it is seen, doesnt mean that they are actually going to do anything about it. Most just want to do their job, get paid, serve their time, get out with a good record and enjoy a lifetime pension. Most of the current class of everyday soldiers signed up in resonse to 9/11...signing up on Sept 12.
@jugdish787 in response to you earlier post, i think alot of vets understand that something is wrong with the system. in fact, most of the traffic to the site infowars can be attributed to millitary. they might not know what is exactly wrong but they know it isnt right. i personaly know vets that will support my claim. a good friend of mine went awol after being forced to open fire on a civiliian vehicle at a checkpoint. he now tours the country illustrating the falacy of iraqi freedom ect.
How silly of Obama to take all those talented individuals and let them go - they make perfect seed for a revolution.. And I am sure they have many friends...
You can be absolutely 100% guaranf-inteed that some of those purged were purged for cover so they can infiltrate said revolution. These people doing these things are WAY ahead of everyone else.
reply to: "The following is a list of 137 military elite who have been dismissed or "fired" under Obama"
And with all that they still can't balance the National Budget???
Behavior reflects personality. What the corrupt divisive incompent arrogant narcissitic illegal indonesian kenyan alien sociopathic liar in chief fudgepacker and its stooge porgressive liberal democrap minions has done to the Unted states is reprehensible, despicable and traitorus... when the frack will the country wake the frack up to what these ruling elite political turds are doing? Answer: Don't hold your breath.
sadly most cannot distinguish between freedom and the illusion of freedom as critical thought is not encouraged among the ranks of the US military
"If you love your freedom, thank a Vet"
This bumper sticker is popular in small town America where I live. Minnesota License Plates offer a varity of Veteran's Plates. Pick your war in Minnestoa. You can get a Korean War / Vietnam War / Gulf War / Iraq Freedom / Afghanistan Plate
A popular new one is "Combat Wounded Veteran" with large Purple Heart next to the Plate Number.
Being a Vet myself, I surely don't complain about this, though I do not have a Vet Plate. Most here believe they deserve everyone's respect for being a Vet. As to the wars, well the Vietnam crowd has become hugely Pro War, wanna get you face busted in, tell someone Vietnam was a wasted war and look out! Korean guys are too old to say much. I know the Gulf War guys are big on their war. It is the newer vets I know little about. Except my Son in Law who is a combat infantry Vet from Iraq in 2006-7. He is proud of his service, but has a low opinon of his war and what it was good for.
Vets tend to be young when they go to war, this makes the best years of their lives being under military service. So they look with pride at that service. Even I am getting a little bit like that.
But Vets ought to know by now that war is a racket. And all the smart ones avoid military service at all costs. The Zionist Washington war mongers just love us small town folks and our quaint patriotism, and willingness to believe in our country "right or wrong".
With age I am growing more respectful of anti war people, because the fact is, they have been right all along. A small elite of 1% creates wars, profits from wars, uses wars to keep people unfree, to cheat and lie, to steal and always "Support the Troops"
In 2015, I doubt the USA is involved in anything but corporate empire building via armed conflicts, and using fake enemies to threaten us citiznes so we always support Washington DC. Any young person considering fighting in Obama wars of 2015 should know that ALL the smart people, and ALL the rich people are avoiding service. Why do they avoid service. because they know that Washington's wars are scams built on lies to make profits for corporations and take away American freedom. It is not ISIS or Russia that steals our money and freedoms, it is the Zionist President and Zionist Congress, who use war to cement their power and wealth over us, the 99%.
With age I am growing more respectful fo anti war people, because the fact is, they have been right all along. A small elite of 1% creates wars, profits from wars, uses wars to keep people unfree, to cheat and lie, to steal and always "Support the Troops"
amen
but i still hate those people who become violently offended at veterens and chastize them for joining. as if they forgot about all of the dumb shit they did while young like droping acid at the alanis morreset concert ect.. alot of vets like my friends, didnt have a whole lot going for them. their family life was shit and the neighborhoods we grew up in was equally as shitty (san bernardino ca has the nations 2nd lowest earnings per capita) so it was sorta looked upon as a great way to expel some built up anger- and the gov propaganda painted middle east peeps as evil doers. mix all that together and you have a volitile cocktale of murder and theft under the guise of patriotism.
Oh yes, I know what you mean. Those types are what makes being Anti War hard. As they disgust everyone with their crude and stupid actions. Amen.
>>>The majority believe in the whole fighting for freedom stuff.
When I'm in the USSA, I avoid talking with any of the young guys I see in wheelchairs; I figure they're vets, and there is no way in Hell I'm going to thank them for their service.
I think that, deep down, most of them already know they've given up a lot... in exchange for nothing.
Then again, most vets never or only graduated HS. So what's your point? You agree they are / were easily influenced?
They all enlisted to get a paycheck in those petrodollars. Except some who enjoy the thrill of putting their life on the line for the privelege of killing others.
That is true. Especially now the military has vastly expanded it's special forces units. Every branch now has many different elite special forces type units, with special training schools. We all know the Navy SEALS, as they were one of the first to adopt the ultra training system, that makes body and mind of those strong enough to survive training into real killing machines. The elite and killing apsect draws a lot of youth looking to be elite and to kill. The Marines used to look down on elites, saying every Marine was an elite, but now they are adopting Navy SEAL like units as well. Air Force has Para Rescue. Navy has copied the British Royal Navy and started a Special Boat Service Unit. Army has Rangers, and several others.
I think the warrior ethic and elite nature of units really does appeal to certain youth, and none of these special units even suffers from a lack of civilians willing to join and try to get in.
Not a sign of a healthy culture.
Freedom of Speech?
Next time you see a wounded vet, remind him he got maimed for nothing.
Nothing that has to do with our freedoms. He got maimed for the almighty petrodollar.
I'm so sick of this shit. These folks aren't heros. They do nothing for us compared to what the massive propaganda machine tells us what they - want us to think - they do for us.
I’m so sick of this shit. This patriotism under the banner of “freedom” is akin to shouting racism today.
You did nothing for us. Look at this article? You got wet for nothing.
Don’t call me, call fucking Trace Adkins as most Americans don’t care about a war thousands of miles away, no matter how much the MSM forces it down your throat. Find another MO.
This article pisses me off. Because it is where we are headed.
So go ahead and down vote vets because as much as it angers you, you know it’s all fucking true.
"So go ahead and down vote vets because as much as it angers you, you know it’s all fucking true."
I'm a vet and you're damn right it angers me...because it's true.
I can forgive Chris Kyle for his insistence (at least as it was portrayed in the movie) that he was protecting Americans--it's a psychological defense mechanism. Having killed 160 people, including women and children, would be a pretty hard thing to deal with if he didn't buy the whole "protecting our freedom" meme.
But it's absolutely frightening how many others buy into it. Reminds me of a quote...
“He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice.” —Albert Einstein
‘The Second Amendment Is There To Protect the First Amendment!’
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/02/16/426851/santorum-the-second-amendment-is-there-to-protect-the-first-amendment/
'Mindlessly OBEY' and you won't be regulated.
- There fixed it for yah..
Time-out.
"...Democratic Commissioner Ellen L. Weintraub said, “75 percent thought that we need to do more about money in politics, particularly in the area of disclosure. And I think that’s something that we can’t ignore.”
I don't see a problem in this statement in itself, even though it is portrayed in the article as a threat to "internet freedom."
We have many websites purporting to be something that they are not-- pretending to be 'grass-roots" when they are actually corporate-funded greening-scaping or PACs.
So, with regards to ZH, ICH, ClubOrlov, etc. as examples, should not websites funded by a given amount/percentage of contributions or donations over "X" amount be subject to financial disclosure? Disclosure to mean "This message sponsered by ---" vs actual small, independent support?
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Regulations are not laws.
Seriously. What will it take to get the torches & pitchforks out?
(and guillotines)
By the time it comes to that, torches and pitchforks will be declared "assault weapons" and banned. And guillotines? "Weapons of Mass Destruction"
I am expecting "The Plastic Cutlery Act of 2015" at any moment...
I wish they would pass a whole bunch of laws- to protect us!
I broke a spork from a fast food joint and the rough edge could have cut me. or something.
Its McWendy's fault. Evil capitalist corporations need to be reigned in!
If sporks are outlawed, only outlaws will have sporks.
I have a spork with no serial number on it. Just try to take it from me.
I am sad to say that I think if you are waiting for torches and pitchforks, you will be waiting a very long time. Look around you...at your family, co-workers, just people out and about...they are totally clueless. If they actually do keep up with the "news", they have the opinion of whatever the talking head or party leader told them to have. If by some magical chance people do bring out the pitchforks, I think we will all be disapointed, because those pitchforks and torches will be coming for people who think like the majortiy of people on this site. My advice...with it and a buck and a quarter you can buy a 32oz fountain drink at the QT...make your peace with the fact there is nothing you can really do, just hold on to your hat because it is going to get a little bumpy. Find a good spot to escape you and your family to if need be.
You get the award for understatement of the day.
BTW- I don't believe that in the end there will be any "escape." Everyone is going to get hit by some shrapnel.
There is and will always be an "escape". You can't just give up...what do you have to lose? if you give up its lights out, game over...do you think that by lying down and quiting you spawn somewhere else?
I keep spawning in the same place every time.
Good advice.
Most young Americans are brainwashed by Hollywood and the Kardashians.
They have no interest in the constitution or freedom of speech. They wouldn't care less if there was a ruthless tyrant telling them what to do.
Allow me to bring forward an exception. I had an extraordinary conversation over Christmas with a goup of young people who spotted the book I was reading (Orlov's "Five Stages") and wanted to talk about it. They were very intelligent, knowledgeable, and asked good questions. They knew to cut through mainstream media narratives. THEY WERE AWAKE. We talked about everything from Europe to "Global Warming." It was very exciting and affirming for me. I still see them sometimes.
No world like Mad Max is worth living in anyways.
Seriously?? I don't think it could be any worse than the dark agaes and eople still trudged on, no matter the situation. pick your head up and move on, do what you can to survive and if your number is up...so be it. Its not the end of the world...
Nice comment, shows sentient intelligence, despite the lack of spel chek.
I watch the local news on broadcast television for 1/2 hour daily. 6;00 It gives me an alternative view to a weather forecast, Large scale current events and possibly a feature about people we know.
The daily broadcast and a few minutes of 'national news' I hear while clearing the table is truly an exercise in self control and anger management,
The Dennis Miller meme he tries to live up to, 'they're gonna do what they're gonna do, live your life without them' is helpful and makes me realize that I don't have to be aggravated by the world all of the time, forever.
There is a certain power (and peril) in knowing that .
Be one of the lucky frogs that escapes the slowly boiling pot of gruel.
South America is looking better all the time.
How about Paraguay?
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_bush53.htm
Way too true. This whole recent vaccine backlash shows the way things will be. Pitchforks and torches for the anti-vaccers. It brought it home to me that there ain't no way back from where we are. It's time to escape.
Off topic, but I fucking love the way the killing of those three muslim kids is playing out, it was all over a parking space, nothing to do with "hate". Compare and contrast with je suis charlie. Maybe Charlie parked his car in the wrong spot? The fuckers were ready for WWIII over charlie; the 3 muslim kids can go rot. This is all so fucked up.
Time for me and mine to bail out. Can't see fighting this.
+100
@jug
no not true for everybody!
this kind of connectedness and knowledge we have, is a privilege. its a good thing and when shared, it can grow exponentialy (in contrast to the ones, that want to control and make you small).
i dont think, we should run away.
i explain a lot to people, share the knowledge, its not a big war, its the drop that hollows out (ngngntransation...) the stone.
and most people understand well and quickly. all we need is information, good information, whats really goin on.
I love your optimism and continued efforts to sway minds. I can't even get my wife to acknowledge there may be a problem, let alone face the impending doom and gloom. Maybe I have a bad delivery...it just seems to me that the minute I bring up anything pertaining to, what would be considered, non mainstream news, I get the blank deer in headlights look.
... Seriously. What will it take to get the torches & pitchforks out?
Hunger ! Lots of it...
No cable. I give the U.S. three days tops under that scenario.
and...and ..cable teevee gets shut down . the horror
"Seriously. What will it take to get the torches & pitchforks out?"
The american people have already demonstrated they will believe anything and do whatever they're told.
Everyone who understands is still strapped into the same hand basket. A bumpy ride for all to ZWO totalitarian hell on earth.
If you get a lobotomy or watch several hours a day of MSM propaganda, you'll feel a lot better about it though.
Nobody wil *ever* do *shit* as long as their mouths are filled. People <are> naturally lazy and will gravitate to the area of least effort. However once driven by an empty complaining stomach they will resort to all kinds of lawful and lawless actions. But the police state will simply be waiting, and no amount of protesting by then will change anything.
Only once people are willing to give up their own lives and have nothing to loose that this batch of elites reign will quickly end - and only if they have any will left in them, most people will just lay down and piss themselves before they are summarily shot and bulldozed under..
Don't worry, they will put NPR in charge of that.
it's good to be a troll
It's called "satire"
/s
They need this in place BEFORE the 2016 election
Wow. Really? The fucking election doesn't matter because both candidates for president and all of the other minions will be approve by TPTB before you even get a chance to vote so it won't matter if you vote red or blue purple wins. (TPTB)
Yes, I realize that about the red/blue teams.
(and the Diebold fraud https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4FPuLNjvAc Don't know how that got on Faux news)
It was the outsiders I was speaking about.
Only in the long run are you right, insofar as both parties will lead us to the same place in the end, absent change. But in the meantime, how about something like Obamacare, which affects millions of families. Both parties had that in their pocket, ready to fuck us with, did they? We'd have to suffer under that with mccain, or Romney?
The point isn't that the GOP is good, it's pathetic. The point is that the 'parties are the same' argument is a big vote getter here, but it's tripe. The left is actively evil. The GOP is just badly led and incompetent. You can't fix the left. Yeah, the parties are both the same abroad, but domestically there's a world of difference.
Rand Paul as President = Elizabeth Warren as president. That's your argument.
Speaking of "regulation" and "accountability" etc., remind me how many of Tim Geithner's "arsonists" have gone bankrupt and to prison?
Fuck em, prepare...
And that is who is behind this effort to end freedom of speech -- the banks. Because if you can't speak freely, you can't expose them.
Or you could just straight up leave...
http://yourescapetoecuador.com/relocation/making-the-move-to-ecuador/
This will just push people to the Dark Web...and piss them off at the same time. There is endless ways of getting around these morons
Yep, as soon as a good chunk of people switch to new internet protocol, everything falls apart. E-commerce, advertising and other click driven industries would be devastated.
This is assuming that Sheople Nation doesn't just go along with these new rules, which I think they will.
"If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about" ad naseum.
I guess they want to deny the 1st amendment. Someone needs to remind Ravel.
Progressive Liberals. Well hope you guys are happy.
Not very happy. Previous governmental regulation of the telecommunications market prevent massive, oligopolistic domination of the entire mass media by a few giant corporations.
Good thing ole Bill Clinton never saw a regulation that he didn't wanna fuck to death . . . on behalf of the oligarchs who have subsequently mailed him their checks and about to elevate his fucking wife to the WH:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_Act_of_1996
Deregulation is an inherently neo-liberal program. Much as the word "liberal" seems to dominate both, nothing but ignorance can mistake the two. Take a look:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism
Sorry.
Neoliberalism is what has fueled the rockets of the oligarchs over the past 30 years. Now they own the government and the mass media . . . regardless of what puppets fill their ceremonial duties in DC.
Your old buddy Reagan started deregulation of the banking and airline industries, pal
Are you just too young to remember? Did you flunk history? Do you have a few teeth missing on your gears? The Airline Deregulation Act of 1978 happened under pre-Obama, er, that's Jimmy Carter to you.
Adding to your education, I'll point out that Democrats controlled both houses of Congress at the time.
Check your dipstick, you're a few quarts low.
Geezer Geek is right. Not many people "remember" that act by JC.
The truth is the truth. Good.
"remember" in parenthesis means selected memory, hypocrisy.
These policies are made by career beauracrats, not just by progressive liberals
lol. ummm.. you dont thinkthe freedom and liberty minded conservatives have their own brand of this? you aren't that naive, are you?
does the name jesse helms mean anything? how bout kock?
If you like your Zero Hedge, you can keep your Zero Hedge!!
Hope, Hope and Change!!
the freedoms we have come by way of our own virtue
and attainment, not dispensed by deluded and
cruel arrogance, nor the product of some collective
fear or "thankfulness". perhaps said most succinctly
as "god given"?
That's the basic divide - the origin of rights. The left thinks they come from govt., so the govt. can do whatever it wants to you. The only rights the leftists respect amount to running around with your pants down. Private property, life, freedom of speech - the left is at war with all real liberties.
and the right thinks they can own you and the
space you "occupy". they are both political
mouthpiece tools of fascist and corporate, elite,
monopolist oligarchs in desperate need of servants
and servitude as a way of sustaining the life they
have been brought up in and have learned to love.
the last thing they want is for the common person
to, at a glance, see that they are obnoxious frauds
who spend their time petting themselves and abusing
their children for fun and profit.
that may be a different story?
I think they should regulate so zerohedge cannot be allowed to post "Phoenix Investment Research" crap!
lol, i like reggie.
Reggie stop sending me those free reports lol
All thats at stake is the first AMendment and free speech; unless they can label ZH as coming under the Patriot act.
It looks like you had a bit to much to think.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/thought-police.jpg
dup
"The control freaks that run our government always seem to want to “regulate” things that they do not like."
Russia enacts 'draconian' law for bloggers and online mediaA new law imposing restrictions on users of social media has come into effect in Russia.
It means bloggers with more than 3,000 daily readers must register with the mass media regulator, Roskomnadzor, and conform to the regulations that govern the country's larger media outlets.
Internet companies will also be required to allow Russian authorities access to users' information.
One human rights group called the move "draconian".
Everything You Need to Know About Russia's Internet Crackdownhttp://www.bbc.com/news/technology-28583669
That doesn't justify arming neo-Nazis in Ukraine to murder civilians.
czarangelus
I so agree.
Background: As a kid all I read was WWII books. A LOT.
Loved WWII movies too.
But it glorifies and distorts what that was, and what this is today.
Now we know more from generals Butler and Patton, and those folks on the hedge and elsewhere on the net who have brought truths to light. Will we learn at this CRITICAL time?
Innocents dying for the few, and for lies - "reasons."
We're next if we don't act on your salient point.
Not to say there is not a time to fight for true good. That is a matter of great wisdom after much thought and deliberation. Are we the sound byte nuclear power that has not reached maturity yet? Will we as a nation make it into adulthood?
On that I offer Patton's Prayer.
http://pattonhq.com/prayer.html
HHHHHMMM!!!!
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HOW MUCH ?
Are the red arrows because his information is false?
Just curious.
I think you are lost here and don't understand who owns this site. Let me guide you:
I will repeat this post because in my opinion it’s important to open eyes those who have good intention in their heart but have been misled by elite / regimes of different sides. How I see things is I look at what government is doing – looking at its work, methods and results. And from there it’s basically two sides: those who work in good of common people and protect their individual rights & freedoms, and those who manipulate their people take their rights away and work for elite benefits. Now you look from that perspective and you are going around in so called “alternative media” as this (which actually is not alternative at all – but about that little later) than I’m sure you are aware about US oligarch regime crimes and that they are not working for the people. What you are lacking in information at some sites is about other elites / regimes / oligarchs and how they treat their people. So because of this lack of information you can be easily manipulated to think that there is only one evil elite that rules west and others can be looked at as opposition to this evil – so automatically they are the good guys VS evil west. Well it’s not so at all. If you go back to what I started and those criteria how I divide governments – than you will realize that for example Putin oligarch regime, China elite regime – is not working for their people and is not protecting their individual rights and freedoms. They use the same tactics, the same crimes, the same manipulation in order to gain their elite more power more wealth and hides it under different banners. I’ post links about Putin regime in the end – check them out.
This manipulation with your mind is possible using different kind of channels that you think is alternative media – when actually it’s Putin regime asset for brainwashing you. Also US oligarch regime has their alternative media to brainwash you. So it’s really hard to stay focus and not to get lost in this war over your mind. But those criteria I posted can help you.
What Putin regime assets as RT, Zerohedge (because obviously it is Putin regime asset as you will not be able to find any criticism towards from this site towards actions Putin regime do to their people by limiting their freedoms, by internet censorship and of course will stay in line with Putin regime lies that they are not invading Ukraine - when there is evidence
about Putin regime tanks in Ukraine that are not in any country army but only in Russian) does is they are mixing truth with lies. You know – you have to add some sugar for bitter poison. They are well aware about US oligarch crimes and they are well aware that MSM is hiding them from people in west and they are well aware that people in west is seeking the truth that exposes these crimes – so what they do is this – they expose US oligarch regime crimes for what you are so interested in and in this way they are taking your attention and confidence to this source so that you trust them and thank them for bringing truth. And what they do then is they add their Putin regime lies that you automatically accept as truth because they were saying truth about US oligarch regime crimes (not always though). So this is the way they mix truth with lies in order to make you think from their perspective. If they add more paid trolls than mostly this scheme will work and people will live under Putin regime brainwashing machine. So now you know. Now it’s a choice for you to think this trough and start looking at information more with critical thinking. Yes, world is not so simple as we think.
Here are some links to look at and think of if you are cheering for Putin regime:
http://globalvoicesonline.org/2014/07/05/russia-internet-censorship-laws-crackdown/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/russias-putin-signs-law-extending-kremlins-grip-over-media/2014/10/15/6d9e8b2c-546b-11e4-809b-8cc0a295c773_story.html
http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-ad-ban-hurts-television/25449900.html
http://www.hrw.org/news/2013/04/24/russia-worst-human-rights-climate-post-soviet-era
http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2014/04/12/russian-tv-caught-red-handed-same-guy-same-demonstration-but-three-different-people-spy-bystander-heroic-surgeon/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkaVIIOE9ys
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/6a2b93aac55c40c9a1b0b0bcc11a07d9/russia-gives-approval-sanctions-compensation
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/russias-rosneft-asks-48-billion-state-wealth-fund-sanctions-bite-1471332
ALL THESE LINKS ARE ARTICLES FROM THE MSM OR THINK TANKS WTF
YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING WE AT ZH ARE HERE BECAUSE WE DONT TRUST THE MSM. BY READING YOUR POSTING I MAY AS WELL GO BACK TO CNN, NBC, WAH POST , FORBES, NY POST ETC ...
IF I WANT PROPAGANDA I KNOW WHERE TO GET IT . SO FUCK OFF
I'm not lost. I've copped plenty for not being starry eyed over the BRICS and its members. You're perhaps too quick on the draw.
I may not agree with everything you post but my question to other ZHrs stands. Are they down voting because they have facts that contradict your information?
Or cause of the way you put it across -at times you can be a hammer looking for a nail. I don't mind that because I'm on this site to find interesting links and comments not purely to reinforce my personal research.
YOUR ANSWER IS ABOVE