Fourth Turning: The Shadow Of Crisis Has Not Passed - Part 3

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Submitted by Jim Quinn via The Burning Platform blog,

In Part One of this article I attempted to illuminate the concept of generational theory as articulated by Strauss and Howe in The Fourth Turning.  In Part Two I provided proof this Crisis is far from over, with ever increasing debt, civic decay and global disorder propelling the world towards war.

Seeds of Crisis & War

“The seasons of time offer no guarantees. For modern societies, no less than for all forms of life, transformative change is discontinuous. For what seems an eternity, history goes nowhere – and then it suddenly flings us forward across some vast chaos that defies any mortal effort to plan our way there. The Fourth Turning will try our souls – and the saecular rhythm tells us that much will depend on how we face up to that trial. The saeculum does not reveal whether the story will have a happy ending, but it does tell us how and when our choices will make a difference.”  – Strauss & Howe - The Fourth Turning

When you accept the fact history is cyclical and continuous linear progress is not what transpires in the real world, you free yourself from the mental debilitation of normalcy bias and cognitive dissonance. Things do get worse. There are dark periods of history and they recur on a regular cycle. And we are in the midst of one of those dark periods. This Crisis will not be resolved without much pain, sacrifice, bloodshed, and ultimately war. Catastrophe is a strong possibility. The core elements of this Crisis – debt, civic decay, global disorder – are coalescing into a perfect storm which will rage for the next ten to fifteen years. The rhythms of history only provide a guidepost of timing, while the specific events and outcomes are unknowable in advance. The regeneracy of society into a cohesive, unified community, supporting the government in a collective effort to solve society’s most fundamental problems seems to have been delayed. Or has it?

Maybe the answer can be found in the resolution of the last Fourth Turning. The seeds of the next crisis are always planted during the climax of the previous crisis, when the new social order is established. The American Revolution Crisis created a new nation, but left unresolved the issue of slavery. This seed grew to become the catalyst for the Civil War Crisis. The resolution of the Civil War Crisis greatly enhanced the power of the central government, while reducing the influence of the States. The rise of central authority led to the creation of the Federal Reserve, the implementation of income taxes to fund a vastly larger Federal government and the belief among the political class that America should intervene militarily in the affairs of other countries. The Great Depression was created by the monetary policies of the Federal Reserve; the New Deal programs were a further expansion of Federal government; FDR outlawed the ownership of gold; and America’s subsequent involvement in World War II created a military and economic superpower.

After sixty-two years of ever increasing debt; ever increasing taxes to support an ever growing governmental bureaucracy; ever expanding laws, regulations, and rules; currency debasement by the Federal Reserve; complete abandonment of the gold standard; and never ending wars of choice around the world, the next Crisis grew and blossomed from the seeds planted during the previous Crisis. The New Deal social programs, along with the extension of the welfare state by LBJ and subsequent administrations, have swelled to unprecedented unsustainable levels with unfunded liabilities exceeding $200 trillion. The promises cannot be fulfilled. The $18 trillion national debt increases by $2.3 billion per day; $96 million per hour; $1.6 million per minute; $27,000 per second. Does that sound sustainable? The legacy media sycophants cheer when consumer debt outstanding surges past $3.3 trillion, as their warped worldview applauds spending versus saving, consuming versus investing, and living for today rather than striving for a sustainable future.

The American people have lost their ability to think, reason, question, do math, control their urges, defer gratification, or realize when they are being lied to by the people they elected to public office. A culture of ignorance, celebration of the absurd, salutation of stupidity, honoring of the inane, being mesmerized by electronic gadgets, and satiating their egocentric shallow impulses on social media, is a sure recipe for societal collapse. Victory in World War II and becoming a modern day empire created the dynamic Eisenhower warned about. An immense military industrial complex has created enemies around the globe in order to keep the profits flowing in this welfare/warfare empire of debt. War is a racket for the rich. The peasants who buy into the incessant patriotic propaganda and volunteer are nothing but cannon fodder for the .1%. Keeping the masses fearful of phantom enemies and portraying foreign leaders as evil, is essential for the oligarchs to retain their wealth, power and control. Truth, facts, and long-term consequences are of no interest to the sociopaths running the show and pulling the levers. The dissent into darkness has been gradual and unnoticed by a purposefully distracted populace.

“As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be most aware of change in the air – however slight – lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness.” ? Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas

What I’ve begun to realize about Fourth Turnings is how slow and methodical they are in reality. They will play out over twenty years at a pace dictated by events and the actions of the major players. I had been looking for a regeneracy event that would unify the country behind one leader. It is not to be. Since Fourth Turnings are driven by mood changes amongst the generational cohorts, the changes are subtle, incremental and not visible as identifiable events. Looking back in history, the election of FDR and the rollout of his New Deal policies began the regeneracy of the nation, but did not create unity or solve the economic problems of the country. There was an actual plot by prominent businessmen to conduct a coup and overthrow the government. A large contingent of the population did not support the New Deal or our entry into World War II.

The first battle of Bull Run and the subsequent mobilization of a half million more men by Lincoln marked the beginning of the regeneracy during the Civil War Crisis. It certainly did not unify the nation or even the North. It just marked the point where there would be no turning back or compromise. There were draft riots in New York City in 1863 and Lincoln thought he would lose the 1864 election. The Declaration of Independence and mobilization of an army in 1776 marked the regeneracy during the Revolutionary Crisis period, but did not unify the colonies or colonists into a cohesive unit. The Revolution was piloted by a minority of freedom minded colonists, while the majority remained neutral or obedient to the Crown.

I now believe the focus of this Fourth Turning will be the conflict between the government and its supporters, and those who oppose the welfare/warfare surveillance state controlled by Wall Street vested interests. The overbearing, militarized, captured Federal government has treated citizens like suspects since 2001. Those in the highest echelons of wealth and power have captured the three branches of government (executive, legislative, judicial) and are ruthlessly ransacking the remaining wealth of the nation. Their unquenchable desire for more wealth and power has never been more blatantly obvious than in the aftermath of the 2008 financial collapse created by their derivative orgy of debt which blew up in their faces.

All the “solutions” implemented since 2008 (TARP, ZIRP, QE1, QE2, QE3, $800 billion stimulus plan, government takeover of student loans, subprime auto loan bonanza, waging wars of choice, doubling of food stamp households, and the Wall Street foreclosure/buy/rent scheme) have been designed to benefit the vested interests in this corporate fascist authoritarian regime. The average person has been left nearly destitute, unemployed or underemployed, bereft of savings, stuck with declining real household income, and left with political candidates hand-picked and bought off by the men running the show behind the curtain. The mood of the country has darkened significantly since 2008 and will darken further when the bubbles in stocks, bonds and real estate, created by the “solutions”, pop simultaneous in the near future.

The wave of dismay, disillusionment and blinding rage that will sweep across the land will mark the next phase of this Fourth Turning. The mistrust and cynicism toward government and politicians has already reached historic highs. Congressional approval levels reached 56% in 2001 and have been in a downward spiral since, with a plunge to single digits since the 2008 Crisis began. The number of people classifying themselves as independents reached an all-time high of 47% in 2014, up from 27% in 2006. An awakening minority now realize Democrats and Republicans are nothing but brands appealing to liberals or conservatives, but representing the ruling Party and beholden to Wall Street, the military industrial complex, mega-corporations, and not the American people.

As trust in the political, economic and financial systems implodes, the existing social order will crumble and be swept away in a torrent of chaos and upheaval. Severe misery will settle on our land and tear the fabric of our society. Internal strife will be compounded by external threats, with citizens fighting each other and nations going to war on a large scale. It has happened before and it will happen again. The realization this Crisis would be driven by the conflict between government and the people occurred to me in 2013 when Edward Snowden revealed the depth and depravity of a government which believes it to not be bound by the constraints of the Constitution, laws, regulations, or human decency.

The political class, along with the government apparatchiks, protected by their propaganda mouthpieces in the media, used the 9/11 attack as the basis to implement command, control and surveillance measures which make Orwell’s Big Brother seem like amateur hour. The hyperbolic level of propaganda in support of the vested interests is actually a sign of weakness, as their grip on the masses is weakening rapidly. Chris Hedges explains Washington as it functions today:

“Washington has become our Versailles. We are ruled, entertained, and informed by courtiers — and the media has evolved into a class of courtiers. The Democrats, like the Republicans, are mostly courtiers. Our pundits and experts, at least those with prominent public platforms, are courtiers. We are captivated by the hollow stagecraft of political theater as we are ruthlessly stripped of power. It is smoke and mirrors, tricks and con games, and the purpose behind it is deception.

The mass media blindly support the ideology of corporate capitalism. They laud and promote the myth of American democracy—even as we are stripped of civil liberties and money replaces the vote. They pay deference to the leaders on Wall Street and in Washington, no matter how perfidious their crimes. They slavishly venerate the military and law enforcement in the name of patriotism.

They select the specialists and experts, almost always drawn from the centers of power, to interpret reality and explain policy. They usually rely on press releases, written by corporations, for their news. And they fill most of their news holes with celebrity gossip, lifestyle stories, sports and trivia. The role of the mass media is to entertain or to parrot official propaganda to the masses.

It plays an essential role in the dissemination of official propaganda. But to effectively disseminate state propaganda the press must maintain the fiction of independence and integrity. It must hide its true intentions.”

It isn’t hard to connect the dots if you choose to open your eyes and not be blinded by normalcy bias or the nationalist propaganda spewed by the mass media. Snowden’s revelations of an NSA global surveillance network spying on U.S. and foreign citizens and approved by the highest levels of government should have caused outrage and mass protests.  Instead, the media propaganda arm portrayed Snowden as a traitor and spy. Snowden revealed that the NSA was harvesting millions of email and instant messaging contact lists, searching email content, tracking and mapping the location of cell phones, undermining attempts at encryption via Bullrun,  and the agency was using cookies to “piggyback” on the same tools used by internet advertisers to pinpoint targets for government hacking and to bolster surveillance.

The NSA was shown to be “secretly” tapping into Yahoo and Google data centers to collect information from hundreds of millions of account holders worldwide by tapping undersea cables using the MUSCULAR surveillance program.  The NSA’s top-secret “black budget,” obtained from Snowden by The Washington Post, exposed the “successes and failures” of the 16 spy agencies comprising the U.S. intelligence community, and revealed that the NSA was paying U.S. tech companies such as Apple, Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Verizon, and AT&T for “clandestine access” to their communications networks. Every electronic communication of every American is being collected by the government to be used at their discretion. It will be used against you when the time is right.

What kind of government clandestinely spies on its citizens; militarizes local police forces; conducts military training operations in major cities; wires its streets and highways with surveillance cameras; disperses peaceful protestors with water cannons, tear gas, pepper spray, and rubber bullets; and treats the U.S. Constitution like toilet paper? An authoritarian regime treats its people like this. Authoritarian regimes treat everyone like a potential enemy. They trust no one. Those in power care only for themselves and their lackeys.

The extreme wealth inequality created by dishonest means is leading towards strife and a systematic breakdown. Our entire system is built on lies, monetary machinations, propaganda and strict obedience to a vast array of laws, regulations and mandates. The ruling elite are desperate to keep their despotic bacchanal empire of debt from disintegrating in a catastrophic apocalypse of derivative time bombs, bank failures, corporate bankruptcies, and denial of their guilt. They recognize the consequences they face when the music stops. When people realize their money system is a fraud they’ll lose faith in all the institutions that make up a civilized society. Trust in politicians, corporate leaders, bankers, institutions, the media, parents, neighbors, and ourselves will evaporate in an instant. The anger and pursuit of those responsible will result in governmental collapse and domestic anarchy. The guilty and innocent alike will die.

Those in power are preparing for war – against you. Executive orders already in place, when executed, give the executive branch the ability to lockdown the country the same way they locked down Boston while bumbling about trying to capture two teenage kitchen utensil bombers. There are two things the ruling class fear the most – the internet and the approximately 300 million guns owned by citizens in 50 million households. The State, through the FCC, wants to “regulate” the internet to “protect” people from being told something other than what the State wants them to hear.

That First Amendment, with its free speech and freedom of assembly, is dreadfully inconvenient for the oligarchs. Truth and dissent will not be tolerated. Every mass shooting incident, caused by the shooters being pumped full of anti-psychotic prescription drugs, is used as an excuse to disarm the public. The Second Amendment right to bear arms makes it more difficult for government thugs to ignore the Fourth Amendment when they kick your door down during an illegal search and seizure operation. An armed populace is our only defense against the tyranny of a draconian government bent on retaining its stranglehold on the country.

After the 2008 financial collapse the guilty were not punished, prosecuted nor reproached for their criminally destructive schemes to loot the American people and the world. Instead they were bailed out, allowed to retain their wealth and power, and rewarded for their misdeeds with further riches provided by their politician puppets in Washington D.C. Evil won. The masses were frightened into keeping silent and believing bankers, politicians, and government bureaucrats had saved their world of bread (debt based consumption) and circuses (iGadgets & HDTVs). Ultimately, this Fourth Turning Crisis will come down to a battle between good and evil. It would be easy if the evil people revealed themselves and the good people could destroy them, but evil and good exist within all human beings.

As witnessed in previous Fourth Turnings, the majority will sit idly by paralyzed by fear or apathy. Most people wait to be led. But, as Samuel Adams profoundly noted:

“It does not take a majority to prevail … but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.”

The Federal and State government directly employs over 20 million Americans and millions more indirectly through their largess to arms dealers and other crony capitalist corporate entities. Over 145 million Americans receive a check of some sort from the Federal government every month, with over 100 million enrolled in a government welfare program. It is unlikely that many of these people will rise up against the government, unless their checks stop flowing (a distinct possibility). Every instance of governmental overreach, corruption, malfeasance, un-Constitutional act or ineptitude tips the scale further towards more people waking up and resisting. I believe the good in most people’s hearts outweighs the evil. Once a tipping point is reached and enough people defy the government, an avalanche of consequences will sweep away the existing social order. Justice for unborn generations will be sought. Keeping silent only allows the evil to grow ever more formidable and entrenched.

“In keeping silent about evil, in burying it so deep within us that no sign of it appears on the surface, we are implanting it, and it will rise up a thousand fold in the future. When we neither punish nor reproach evildoers, we are not simply protecting their trivial old age, we are thereby ripping the foundations of justice from beneath new generations.” – Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956

In Part Four of this article I will focus on the drumbeats of war getting louder on a daily basis. Fourth Turnings always climax with war on a grand scale. There will be no escape.

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Publicus's picture

The only thing that can be expected from the next US president is more war, more murder, and more oppression of the gullible American people.

People as uninformed and as gullible as Americans have no future. Americans are a dead people that history is about to run over. - Paul Craig Roberts

Unix's picture
Unix (not verified) Publicus Feb 12, 2015 8:31 PM

Pub, I would hope there comes an awakening, maybe I am too optimistic? There has to be a point where people wake up to the fact they are slaves, but I guess it has to happen when they have lost everything.

Ya, that will be it.

DavidPierre's picture

There are thousands of people out there, like SmokeyQuinn, puking up other writers prophecies. 
Some of them, especially the more vague ones, are bound to come true.
Quinn bases his prophecies on questionable, and wholly USSA centric cycles, as he just lightly skips over the truth of the 9/11 WTC  false flag tragedy.
Why would anyone believe this Strauss&Howe badly written junk "science"? 

Try Tarot cards!
After all, out of the whole pack, there are bound to be a few cards that accurately correspond.
SmokeyQuinn is just another wannabee Nostradamus.

Once again Quinn FAILS!

Unix's picture

Maybe so, but he points out the cyclical nature of things, just like the seasons. I, for one, don't want to see this darkness he portends, and I am going to try to make a difference by being an agent of positive change from here on out!

r00t61's picture

DavidPierre has been trolling Jim Quinn's articles for years. 


DavidPierre's picture

Not only was Quinn outed as a bald faced Liar by members years ago on ZH, but he remains a gatekeeper of the offalCIAl conspiracy bullshit, and thus continues to be a cowering 9/11 MORON.

In other words he is another mouthy punk, just like Carl Denninger

After all the years he is still a scared little chick shit and will not debate this issue in an open forum like ZH where, unlike on his sycophantic blog, he has no delete button to silence others.

Come on Smokey quit being a quivering little man, take off your shirt, bare those man titties of yours and get in the fight club ring.


malek's picture

Look, bigmouth DP is at it again, exposing his black-and-white thinking!

You seem to be too dumb to start your own blog, so you have to pollute other blogs with your vomit

DavidPierre's picture


Here a direct quote from SmokeyQuinn from part #4 of this rehashed series.

"Osama bin Laden succeeded beyond his wildest expectations, as the U.S. has wasted $6 trillion thus far, along with the lives of 7,000 Americans and 50,000 wounded.  The terrorists have already won. They have put our country on the path to bankruptcy, while convincing our leaders to strip the citizens of their liberties, freedoms, and rights. And there are now more militants and terrorists than existed in 2001, in countries that didn’t have terrorists in 2001."

Fuck you and Quinn and your black and white thinking!

stacking12321's picture

ok, so you posted a quote from quinn, which seems to me to be pretty much on target.

and then your rebuttal of the passage is, "Fuck you"?

do you see what the problem is, here? do you understand how you come across as a ranting lunatic, rather than someone who has something of value to say?

if you're trying to suggest that the "terrorists" and "our leaders" are not 2 separate groups but are part of the same organization, then i'm all in agreement with you. but if that's the case, i have to say, that you're such a poor communicator of ideas, that you may as well stop; the only thing you're doing is venting a lot of hot air.

varnelius's picture

Ok, I call BS.

Smokey is dead. Jim/James Quinn, is a separate person. For all I know, you posed that bullshit.

TBP is what lead me to ZH. And I seriously call you out on Jim being weak on 9/11. Read the blog, you're dead wrong.

*edit* (profanities removed for the most part)

varnelius's picture

Must be a script polling ZH, giving a - to every post who mentions "Quinn", just started by the look of it.

Any guess that you were employed by the .gov?

DavidPierre's picture

SmokeyQuinn has neither the balls nor the brains to debate 9/11Truth on an open forum where he cannot delete other peoples comments at will.


A direct quote from him...

"It is good that you were able to take time out from the truther sheep fuck convention to develop a sitcom. I hear JFK is on today. You can sit in front of your TV and jerk off to it. Do you have any ideas about detective dads that bring up morons? By the number of thumbs up you received, it appears that the 9/11 truther retards are still onboard. I guess no other sites will have you mongoloids.

The truthers swarmed the site with their bullshit immediately. Anyone who has been on my site for the last two years realizes that if you don’t have facts to back up your argument, I will obliterate you.

I had the facts when Jason Rines pulled the plug on my old site."


This is all many years old information on ZH.

Jason Rines was Quinn's first webmaster, (and who uses 'Raging Debate' as a handle on ZH), pulled the plug on Quinn because he caught Quinn posting as Smokey.


"I really don’t care who I offend.

Anyone who has been offended can hit the fucking road.

Then all of the truthers I’ve offended today can quit my site. They can discuss gravity, explosives, jet fuel, video clips of the Pentagon, and how to properly fuck a sheep.

Since you say you were a firefighter, that makes you an intelligent person.

You should really have special insight into the 9/11 towers. You are a bonafide sleuth.

You really have that mystery solved.

Nobody can pull anything over on you. You are too smart to fall for any tricks.

You are a mystery solver. A man with keen analytical skills. —-A fucking inbred, maggot-infested douchebag.

You and all of the rest of the duped 9/11 Truthers eat dog shit."  


You have not been around here long enough to understand the history of SmokeyQuinn, who was publicly outed on ZH, by his own webmaster, as a god damn LIAR.

Why don't you ask Quinn why he no longer has  the balls to post anything in the comments on ZH like he did before he was exposed?


malek's picture

I don't really care who lied or not some time ago on some sideshow, because I will never be able to tell for example if RagingDebate always told the truth.

That only keeps you from thinking about the central real important issues,
and by not letting go but ruminating your vomit every time publicly here on ZH you are effectively attempting to keep others from thinking about the real important issues too, making you a status quo preserver...

Especially your crusade-like "If Quinn says anything now, such as citing the 4th Turning, it must be completely wrong!!!1!" really makes you an imbecile and clown.
Bring a fucking in-itself-concise argument, why the 4th Turning is not helpful and even harmful, for a change.

And it doesn't matter at all if the twin towers were brought down by jet fuel or thermite (LIHOP or MIHOP) as the real question is who may have orchestrated all that.

stacking12321's picture

ignorant comment about "ussa centric cycles", davidpierre.

the cycles referred to have to do with 1 average human lifespan, the cycles have nothing to do with usa, but the examples and references used are from local usa sources.

i know you want to try to bash other people so that you can feel smart, but, try to have an understanding of what you're talking about first, k?


DavidPierre's picture

The 4th Turding, an American Prophecy

Shit man... USSA is on the cover for Christ sake!

A Gordian knot of glib, facile generalization, intellectually dishonest, and riddled with pungent strands of self-loathing (read: Boomer Bashing). This book is simply another tiresome exercise in NeoCon, crypto-ideology.
How unfortunate for us all of us that it was Strauss and Howe who thought to trot out the dusty old "cycles of history" scheme for this generation, because readers should know that, in spite of the clumsy polemic and shoddy prose in this book, (I would insert an example here, but there are just too many to choose from).

Unfortunately, you won't find much to value here; for these two authors, the "cycles" theory is simply a vehicle for conservative ideology.  These boys have obviously suckled at the poisoned teats of the William Bennetts of this world for far too long to ever again create anything resembling honest scholarship.

stacking12321's picture

ok, so they happen to live in the usa and take their examples from life in the usa, so what? does that mean cycles are a strictly usa-centric phenomenon?

you are clearly skilled in throwing around adjectives and using disparaging epithets, but how about some substance?

how is it "intelectually dishonest"?

how, specifically, is it "exercise in NeoCon, crypto-ideology."?

Down to Earth Thinking's picture

people have NOT suffered .......YET, and that will of course tip it all over one day when some outlier event shows up. Some of it is already in motion 

varnelius's picture

While the depression already started, most do not feel it yet.

Callz d Ballz's picture


"There are dark periods of history and they recur on a regular cycle. And we are in the midst of one of those dark periods."


The POTUS selfie pics alone prove we are there.

Unix's picture

King George III, or is it Nero? I can't make up my mind.

NoDebt's picture

"The American people have lost their ability to think, reason, question, do math, control their urges, defer gratification, or realize when they are being lied to by the people they elected to public office."

Hey, watch it, buster.  I can do at least half those things.


Unix's picture
Unix (not verified) NoDebt Feb 12, 2015 8:28 PM

Strive to do better! hehe

Osmium's picture

I think they can defer gratification.  I don't see too many people pleasuring themselves in public.

Down to Earth Thinking's picture

but its the things you know and don't do anything about that he is referring to ?

Unix's picture
Unix (not verified) Feb 12, 2015 8:41 PM

The American people have lost their ability to think, reason, question, do math, control their urges, defer gratification, or realize when they are being lied to by the people they elected to public office. A culture of ignorance, celebration of the absurd, salutation of stupidity, honoring of the inane, being mesmerized by electronic gadgets, and satiating their egocentric shallow impulses on social media, is a sure recipe for societal collapse.

I am none of these, but too many Americans are sadly in that camp!

EDIT: It only takes a small percentage of people to make a difference. Look at the 3% during those revolutionary times. We need to educate, communicate, build consensus and be postive in our outlook. I know it is always darkest before the dawn, but we are not there yet. I have recenlty decided to stop my incessant negativity, as it is affecting my very being!

Miffed Microbiologist's picture

I don't want to be a marionette. I fight everyday in the small way I can as a wage slave just trying to do right and support myself. I stand up for others when I see injustice. I go out of my way to help others who are in need and are suffering. Still, I am beaten down, ignored and am ultimately powerless to stop any of this.

No matter what happens, how brutal or destructive it is to life on this planet, those responsible will remain in the shadows to continue on unabated.

Revolutions never go far enough and like the French Revolution, they also kill many innocent. And those in the shadows just laugh.


Unix's picture

Miffed, you are NOT powerless! Never forget that.

There will come a time when enough people say enough, and through that awakening things can change, it does not have to include bloodshed.

I have witnessed bloodshed, and it ain't pretty, and it could come down to that, but I hope to God it does not. Chin up, there is still a bit of time to fix this HUGE mess.

Color me a fool, possibly, but I like to think in terms of the glass half full.

noben's picture

Well, maybe in the next French-style revolution, we can help getting those laughing in the shadows up on stage.

And see if they can laugh and keep their heads. Then and only then, the last laugh is on them.

NoDebt's picture

Stay off the radar, MM.  Best way to play it.  Keep the skills sharp and the work ethic strong.  

If possible, learn a new skill.  Microbiology is cool and all, but you might want to learn to weld or do basic electrical work or mechanics.  Learn to knit or something (I know how to knit and run a pretty mean sewing machine, so don't think I'm making a sexist comment).  Whatever floats your boat.  Being able to shoot a gun with some level of expertise is a given, of course.  

Not that any person is an island, but the more self-reliant you are, the stronger you become.  The sense of accomplishment alone does wonders for self-esteem.  Plus you meet all kinds of new people in the process, expand your network and have more fun that you might have thought possible.


Old Man River's picture

I'll trade you a few quarts of my finest organic pickles for a pair of knitted socks. The cucs, garlic, cayenne peppers, dill and turmeric are out of my garden. I buy the Himalayan sea salt, vinegar and peppercorns...

Miffed Microbiologist's picture

Well, I do love nail guns but mr miffed won't let me near the welder after he saw how well I did with it. I can darn a mean sock when pressed and I have made a few interesting herbal tinctures that rock. I can slaughter and dress out a chicken, shoot a rabbit in a most unappetizing fashion and cook it to perfection while making my man purr. I have faced adversity almost dying in the largest fire in Cali history when others a few miles away lost their lives. I can shoot an XD-40, Glock, ar-15 well and fairly accurately ( Mr does win here) and I work hard, never whin and appreciate what I do have.

So, I do have a ways to go for the fully function survivalist but I'm on the right path. ;-)


Sandmann's picture

Funny to think the US started out as a Protestant Switzerland with a Confederate System and farming - and that it ended up as a Financial Zion with a Temple on Wall Street sucking in tributes from all around

Unix's picture
Unix (not verified) Sandmann Feb 12, 2015 8:37 PM

I like to think of it as sad really, we must educate as many people as possible, even if it means losing friends and family, communication is our only hope! It has to stay positive, for it to get through though!

22winmag's picture

That's one way to put it...

August's picture

And Rome started out with Lefty Scaevola, and ended up with Caligula. 

Same old same old.

noben's picture
noben (not verified) Feb 12, 2015 8:37 PM

"As The Stomach Turns", but less funny than on the Carol Burnett Show.

22winmag's picture

I'm not scared. Enough people will do the right thing when the shit really hits the fan, and they will do so spontaneously. Enough people know the truth from a lie. Enough people know not to shoot until you see the blue of their helmets. 

10mm's picture

Color of helmet could vary.  Just sayin.

ISEEIT's picture

'America' is already dead.....



A Lunatic's picture

Nice try, but you can't kill an idea...........

10mm's picture

Co workers buddy had a massive heart sttack getting into car. Lucky Mutha. No Nursing Home shit existence.  54 yrs old.

dirtyfiles's picture

what part of US are you?the same happen here today/just wondering if we know eqach other/same age 54


yogibear's picture

It's becoming so bad that the government wants to censor zerohege.

In the meantime the 20 and 30 somethings are not interested in protecting freedom.

A ripe environment for a tyrant. 

stacking12321's picture

"A ripe environment for a tyrant. "

yeah, you're right!

we better watch out, otherwise, you know, one of those tyrants might end up as the leader of the nation.


Unix's picture


cpnscarlet's picture

I'll say it again....everything appears accurate, but wake me when AU is 2500 and Ag is 80. Then we might start talking about crises and turnings...