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The U.S. Government Wouldn't Cover Up a Foreign Government's Murder of Our Military Men ... Would It?
On June 8, 1967, Israel attacked the American naval vessel USS Liberty in international waters, and tried to sink it.
After checking the Liberty out for 8 hours – and making 9 overflights with Israeli jets, within 200 feet … close enough for the pilots and the sunbathing Liberty sailors on deck to waive at each other.
Yet the Israelis attacked it with Mirage fighter jets, torpedoes and napalm. The USS Liberty suffered 70% casualties, with 34 killed and 174 wounded.
The Israeli attack spanned two hours … as long as the attack on Pearl Harbor. The air attack alone lasted approximately 25 minutes: consisting of more than 30 sorties by approximately 12 separate planes using napalm, cannon, and rockets which left 821 holes in the ship. The Israelis fired 30mm cannons and rockets into the boat.
Following the attack by fighter jets, three Israeli motor torpedo boats torpedoed the ship, causing a 40 x 40 foot wide hole in her hull, and machine-gunning firefighters and stretcher-bearers attempting to save their ship and crew. More than 3,000 machine-gun bullet holes were later counted on the Liberty’s hull.
After the attack was thought to have ended, three life rafts were lowered into the water to rescue the most seriously wounded. The Israeli torpedo boats returned and machine-gunned these life rafts at close range. This was followed by the approach of two large Israeli Army assault helicopters filled with armed commandos carrying what appeared to be explosive satchels (they departed after hovering over the ship for several minutes, making no attempt to communicate).
The Israelis clearly knew it was an American ship, tried to sink it, and tried to frame the Egyptians for the attack, as shown by the following evidence:
(1) The Liberty was flying a huge, brand new American flag. The flag was 5-by-8 feet. The weather conditions were ideal to ensure the flag’s easy observance and identification, because it was clear and sunny, with a wind-speed which make for a constant ripple in the flag. After the flag was shot up by the jets, the Liberty’s crew replaced it with a 7-by-13 foot American flag, which flew during the entire duration of the attack.
(2) The Liberty had a unique profile and didn’t look like any other boat, since it had more and bigger antennas – including large, high-tech dishes and giant towers – than any other boat in the world (it was an NSA spy ship).
(3) The Liberty was marked with uniquely American numbering and colors in front.
(4) The Israeli pilots shot out the Liberty’s communications equipment first, and specifically jammed the ship’s emergency radio signal … unique to American naval vessels in the 6th Fleet. The ships from other fleets and other nations used different frequencies, which the Israelis did not jam.
(5) The Israelis used unmarked fighter jets and unmarked torpedo boats during the attack.
(6) Recently-declassified radio transcripts between the Israeli attack forces and ground control show that – at least 3 times – an Israeli fighter jet pilot identified the craft as American, and asked whether ground control was sure he should attack. Ground control repeatedly said, yes, attack the vessel.
(7) The Israeli torpedo boats methodically destroyed all of the Liberty’s liferafts one by one (which is a war crime).
(8) The only reason the Israelis did not successfully sink the Liberty and kill all of its crewmen was that one sailor duck-taped together antennae – and took many bullet wounds in the process – which enabled an emergency SOS to get out from the Liberty to American 6th Fleet.
(9) The Israelis later claimed that they mistook the Liberty for an Egyptian vessel. But the Egyptian ship – the El Quseir – was an unarmed 1920s-era horse carrier out of service in Alexandria, four times smaller than the Liberty, which bore virtually no resemblance to the Liberty.
(10) President Lyndon Johnson believed the attack was intentional and he leaked his opinion to Newsweek.
Other high-level Americans agreed:
“I was never satisfied with the Israeli explanation…. Through diplomatic channels we refused to accept their explanations. I didn’t believe them then, and I don’t believe them to this day. The attack was outrageous.”
–U.S. Secretary of State Dean Rusk
“The evidence was clear. Both Adm. Kidd and I believed with certainty that this attack … was a deliberate effort to sink an American ship and murder its entire crew…. Not only did the Israelis attack the ship with napalm, gunfire, and missiles, Israeli torpedo boats machine-gunned three lifeboats that had been launched in an attempt by the crew to save the most seriously wounded — a war crime….”
–Affidavit of U.S. Navy Captain Ward Boston, the legal counsel for the official investigation into the Liberty attack
“There is compelling evidence that Israel’s attack was a deliberate attempt to destroy an American ship and kill her entire crew.”
–Admiral Thomas Moorer, Chief of Naval Operations and later Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, 14 January 2004
“Israeli authorities subsequently apologized for the incident, but few in Washington could believe that the ship had not been identified as an American naval vessel…. I have yet to understand why it was felt necessary to attack this ship or who ordered the attack.”
–C.I.A. Chief Richard Helms
“Yet the ultimate lesson of the Liberty attack had far more effect on policy in Israel than in America. Israel’s leaders concluded that nothing they might do would offend the Americans to the point of reprisal. If America’s leaders did not have the courage to punish Israel for the blatant murder of American citizens, it seemed clear that their American friends would let them get away with almost anything.”
–George Ball, U.S. Undersecretary of State at the time, The Passionate Attachment
(Sources: Congressional record and videos shown below.)
Admiral Thomas H. Moorer – former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff – chaired a non-governmental investigation into the attack on the USS Liberty in 2003. The committee – which included General of Marines Raymond G. Davis, Rear Admiral Merlin Staring, former Judge Advocate General of the Navy, and former U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia James E. Akins – held Israel to be culpable and suggested several theories for Israel’s possible motives, including the desire to blame Egypt and bring the U.S. into the Six Day War.
Indeed, President Lyndon Johnson dispatched nuclear-armed fighter jets to drop nuclear bombs on Cairo, Egypt. They were only recalled at the last minute, when Johnson realized that it was the Israelis – and not the Egyptians – who had fired on the Liberty.
An NSA report from 1981 found:
A persistent question relating to the Liberty incident is whether or not the Israeli forces which attacked the ship knew that it was American . . . not a few of the Liberty’s crewmen and [deleted but probably “NSA’s G Group”] staff are convinced that they did. Their belief derived from consideration of the long time the Israelis had the ship under surveillance prior to the attack, the visibility of the flag, and the intensity of the attack itself.
Speculation as to the Israeli motivation varied. Some believed that Israel expected that the complete destruction of the ship and killing of the personnel would lead the U.S. to blame the UAR [Egypt] for the incident and bring the U.S. into the war on the side of Israel . . . others felt that Israeli forces wanted the ship and men out of the way.
Scouring the Liberty records in the LBJ Library in Texas, Ennes [an officer on the bridge of the Liberty] stumbled upon a smoking gun – a one-page memo of the minutes of the 303 Committee [the U.S. National Security Council group that reviewed sensitive intelligence operations] held in advance of the war in April 1967. The Committee consisted of a handful of top level intelligence and government officials who examined black operations and devised plausible deniability for the executive branch in the event of public discovery of an attack. The memo relates to a clandestine joint US-Israeli effort to blame Egypt for the sinking of the Liberty.
We haven’t yet located a copy of the alleged memo, and so we’re not sure we believe this explosive claim. But – given that Israel (1) used unmarked jets and ships, (2) destroyed the Liberty’s communication equipment and then jammed the Liberty’s emergency distress channel, and (3) destroyed all liferafts – the logical inference is that Israel intended to frame Egypt for the attack, and didn’t want the Liberty’s crew to be able to tell the world what really happened.
The following must-watch documentaries from the BBC, Al Jazeera and an independent producer provide first-hand interviews with the crew of the USS Liberty which prove that this was a failed false flag attack:
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Israel did 9-11.
"Israel did 9-11."
And covered it up!
THIS...has to be the most out right galling and evil ever commited during the Iraq war. One remembers seeing these videos then and realizing how horrible and aweful it was. Actually made the heart cry, because it was really happening, and no one seemed to care about it when it was reported to be happening at that time.
http://www.blissful-wisdom.com/israeli-snipers-are-shooting-hundreds-of-...
Newsman Brian Williams “Destroyed”, 3 Others Killed Over Obama 9/11 (who done it) Fears
Excerpts:
Brian Williams [photo top left], this report explains, was the anchor and managing editor of NBC Nightly News (the most watched television news programme in the US) when after a week of savage attacks relating to common false memories experienced by all human beings was expelled from his post and still faces the likelihood of his being fired outright.
Important to note about Williams, this report says, are that the “stolen valor” false memories he was accused of pale in comparison to those long told by former US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton of her being under sniper fire in Bosnia when video footage shows the true facts of this not being so.
Even more grimly to note, this report continues, is that not only has Williams and his reputation been “destroyed”, this past week three of his most important colleagues, former NBC international reporter Ned Colt [photo 2nd left], top CBS News correspondent Bob Simon [photo 3rd left], and top New York Times reporter David Carr [photo bottom left], were also killed.
Bob Simon, 73, this report states quoting US propaganda mainstream media sources, was killed Wednesday in New York City in a car crash, and on Thursday Ned Colt, 58, was said to have perished by a massive stroke followed within hours by David Carr, 58, collapsing and dying in his New York Times newsroom office.
Important to note about the deaths of these award winning journalists, and the “reputation destruction” of Williams, SVR experts in this report note, was that the four of them had formed an independent video news company last month and filed the necessary security documents that would allow them access to the Kremlin’s most secret archive of evidence relating to the 11 September 2001 attacks.
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1838.htm
As always, reader decides.!
more Sorcha Faal BS that we'd all like to believe, but is just too over the top.
Total drivel....one can get radicalized just by reading George Washington online promulgated hate.
Watching the BBC (middle) documentary is worth it just to see McNamara squirm like Martin Short's Nathan Thurm routine on the old SNL.
Yeah, Bob, we actually sent nuke planes to mistakenly bomb Egypt and you didn't get the memo.
Motherfucker.
While I abhor any loss of life, it is ironic that this is all about Israhell attacking the NSA...
Ah, yes. The old "If you are against Israel, you are a Nazi" argument. Good for just about any occasion or circumstances.
Mention putting Palestinians in "concentration camps", you are a Nazi.
Talk about nuclear weapons in Israel, you are a Nazi.
Dare mention that Israel massacred US seamen, you are a Nazi.
This equating disagreement with often heinous Israeli policy and actions is becoming tiresome and old. Yes, the holocaust was terrible. Yes, the Jews were particularly targetted and slaughtered. Yes, we should never let it happen again (ha, ha, ha...Jews hardly seemed worked up over Rwanda or Cambodia!). But for God's sake, stop being a bunch of hypocrites.
Israel is either a democractic nation or a Jewish state. If it is a Jewish state, then its actions are a extension of Judaism and any criticism of unacceptable acts could be construed as anti-semitism, but not a pejorative anti-semitism. If Israel is not a Jewish state, then STFU about being Jewish and accept criticism not as being anti-semitic but as criticizing inhumane or unacceptable actions.
more zionutz stuff
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In a departure from the Danish government’s previous statements, Martin Lidegaard said Denmark is prepared to recognize Palestine even without a two-state solution firmly in place. “We are in line with the many countries who feel that this is such an important decision that we should wait to make it until we feel like it can actually affect the peace process. We don’t think that is now, but on the other hand we don’t necessarily think that we need to wait until the end of the peace process,” Lidegaard said during Thursday’s debate, as quoted by Politiken.I read where the Chosenites actually captured one of the lifeboats and put it on display in a Israeli military museum. Even the dung beetle mentality of the American gov gagged at this and made the Israelis return the raft.
The whole incident has been well documented. I think LBJ had to keep a lid on the affair since the Mossad helped assassinate Kennedy in that coup which made LBJ president.
I read where the Chosenites actually captured one of the lifeboats and put it on display in a Israeli military museum.
Bluss
That is a new one for me? Indeed!...
If true the U.S. Navy should have fucking nuked it right then and there!
P.S.
I've had colleagues of mine who were U,S. Naval War College that actually said that attack is studied by every class since 1973 6 years after it happened! Just imagine what it must be like opening up that story every year since 1973 only to be told "never forget" but keep your mouth shut and then when the truth comes out 37 years later about 9/11 not wanting to go "rogue" with one of those boomers?!!!
Wow, the US Government made Israel give the trophy back?? They have more backbone than I thought! /sarc
It's a pity most Americans aren't aware of this (& a million other things...)... I heard LBJ had more to do with this than meets the eye....
Two good long articles on this are: http://judymorrisreport.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-most-incredible-story-n...
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/06/07/alan-hart-israels-attack-on-the-...
There's "plenty" out there for those who seek to know things that governments don't want you to know...
Thank you George! As always you don't disappoint. I respect and admire your tenacity. Thank you.
Not alone would they cover it up, they were outraged when the survivors tried to erect a Memorial Library in Milwaukee. The outrage was against the idea of commemorating American servicemen who had given their lives for their country, because such commemoration might offend the sensitivities of the people who cost them their lives!
Well said Monty.
The only other disgrace beyond the treason of the "front office" that was Johnson, McNamara and the Admiral(s) -especially John McCain's father who was personally instrumental in the coverup were the threats issued to the men on that ship of what would happen to them if they were ever to speak out on what Israel had done to it's mentor and "ally"...
Not really sure if this was part of the story and information in GWs capture on the subject, but to my knowledge none of those 34 men that died defending their ship against that enemy they paid for as taxpayers with the weapons that ironically killed them have grave marker(s) telling the World the circumstances of that fight and where they were killed in combat!
The other very relevant piece of information that never gets appropriately mentioned is that the Soviet's had a ship in the Med that was successful intercepting the communications from both the Israelis and Americans that were involved. If the Soviet Navy hadn't been in the neighborhood it has been well documented after the fact that the Israelis would have probably been successful with additional assault run(s) on the vessel to finish it off. But they knew the Russians had the "goods" on them!
Over and out
McCain the elder was considered Halsey's right-hand man--his brain trust--in the Pacific island hopping campaign to Japan.
Hard to figure.
McCain the elder was considered Halsey's right-hand man--his brain trust--in the Pacific island hopping campaign to Japan.
Hard to figure.
You have to wonder how intelligent in fact John McCain Sr. really was when you have witnessed his son in action throughout his 30 + year political career with Israeli money behind him. In the brains department McCain has hit every branch on the way down the IQ "tree". Perhaps his father sucked Halsey's dick off like a pro when they weren't "dropping" anchor?!!! Or maybe the "dumb gene" belonged to mother!
Evilest of fucker(s) aside for selling out his own sending them to there deaths to provide the pretext for American intervention in the war against Egypt, one thing is for certain... The "apple didn't fall far from the tree" in giving his son the gift of devil worship!!!
McStain junior finished in the bottom 10$ of his class at West Point.
McStain junior finished in the bottom 10$ of his class at West Point.
You meant Annapolis.
My Dad graduated 3 years ahead of him. He fucking hated him and rightfully so with the indelible stain both he and his father put on the place!
Said not only was McCain one of the dumbest in Navy history but was one of the worst pilots that ever received a a "pair"!!!
Insane McStain finished 894/899.
And it was pretty much downhill from there.
Bow yer heads liars, deceivers, and warmongers. Let us ALL pray together for YOUR salvation.:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGpwKQo5_Z0
As you listen we say this.:
Our Father who art in Heaven,
Hallowed be thy Name,
Thy Kingdom come,
Thy will be done,
On Earth,
As it is in Heaven.
Give us this day and our daily bread,
Forgive us Our trespasses,
As we forgive those who trespass against us,
Lead us not into temptation Oh Lord,
Rather, deliver us from the evil within ourselves.
For thine is the Kingdom, and the Power, and the Glory, for ever and ever.
Amen
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more crap from the zionutz.
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Walker, the Pultizer Prize winning author of The Color Purple, posted on her blog an excerpt of a letter from the agent informing her that the invitation to keynote the 50th anniversary celebration of the Center for the Education of Women at the University of Michigan had been withdrawn.
The agent wrote:
When Jews control tyranny blooms.
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Well done.
Just remember how important grants are to Universities like Michigan and Purdue. I mention those two not because I dislike the Big 10 schools. On the contrary I have family that went to them and are proud of their history and accomplishments as top Universities in many areas of science and engineering which of course they are very good at. But what you are seeing today at our top Universities is menacing in terms of how federal grant money towards scholarships for the best and brightest gets spent on the things that the NSA and DoD "wants" and not the free thinking ambitions and creative ideas that could be used in so many other positive ways.
Michigan of course provides economic trends and analysis to Wall Street for money, just as Purdue University provides computer and data modeling to unlock the mysteries behind the collapse of very important steel skyscrapers based on erroneous and "fixed" data not unlike the NIST that the public will never have access to!
When the Alumni at those schools are prepared to withhold their donations completely because the disgust they should have for the directions the money and management has taken, then and only then will you see it change. Just like in Washington!
U.S.S. Liberty III or 9/11 II (take your pick)
A well placed warning from a Zionist Jew that kills Palestinians for a living just like their well trained American military lapdogs in the rest of the Middle East!
America! Your're next AGAIN!!
Is ZH really just a free Jewish hate porn site?
Rather than just throw out such platitudes would you like to respond to any of the factual charges made?
Thought not.
Up to now all you hasbaras had to do was wave the 'anti-Semite' trope to terminate any exposure of HATE facts. That ploy is running out of steam thanks to brave publications like ZH where, incidentally a baffling concept to you will be encountered. It's called airing both sides of a debate.
Is ZH really just a free Jewish hate porn site?
Still holding your breath? Keep doing it!
"Is ZH really just a free Jewish hate porn site?"
No troll of hell, it is a place where the truth runs wild, like in a river flowing gently and naturally down the hill. Only true idious chickentards try to change that to make water flow uphill.
People are waking up to the fact that hells best luciferian/satanist moneygod freaks are the ones who pit all sides against each other so THEY, not the jews or the other folks can profit. If anyone wants to experience REAL RACISM, all they need do is go to isreal. After a personal experience, these are the most hate filled supremacist things on the planet. Totally reptilian like and like the ever changing chameleon lizard, they change colors to deceive the people all the time. It's the nature of evil.
The sad truth is, they have all been duped into following the zionist/satanic/luciferian/ziocon/ evil banksterz plans for world domination, and population elimination. You and these other negative Nancy's are wasting your time and energy here trying to change truth into your horsewash, and phoney-baloney dribble to counter it. You might find a compliant audience at huff bangalo-po. Go there and do your dark-star dances. The meandering blabbering of fools from hell is quite welcome at Huffington blowhard central, according to most.
Truth will forever be engraved in Stone here on ZH and no number of trolling idiots from hell will ever change that. The lies and bovine excrement spewed out here by govt trolls and the spam masters from hell will rapidly flow away. Just like the stick tossed into the river that floats down and disappears forever eventually. You can not buck natural law. Deceptions and lies are quite unnatural, indeed.
FYI: Were the Christed Jesus here today, He would be very very angry seeing all this evil run amok and vamped up by those who profit from it. He would slam those who hire idiot troll scumbags to come to places like this to dare to try and change historical truth into their fallacy of lies for profit, and control. He would be the first to slam them down hard for the impudent devious lies, and the murderous evil they create day after day for the globalist wickedness of bankster glory in world domination. He would slam down hard ALL those who call money, god!
Truly, love is the ONLY WAY. If it is not love, what is it? Incidentally, the love of money is not love, it is greed! EVIL!!!
Further, always follow your heart. Not the easily fooled and conditioned mind to live a moar prosperous, and worthy life.
IHSV
+1000000000 Well said.
Merci', MB.
Tis truly an honor to be amongst so many awesome and intelligent souls that see the Light, and who speak their truth to power so well.
Truth, is on the march.
Bless.
GMAB! Is this article still posted?
Distraction form the real news.
Yeah.
This is far more important.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/tcu-coach-gary-patterson-calls-for-six-team-playoff-211832505.html
Maybe we need to talk about the Butt Fucking Buddies, Adam and Steve, being able to get married in Alabama instead...
http://news.yahoo.com/more-alabama-counties-may-grant-gay-marriage-licenses-140332109.html
You had best tune into CNBS and watch Kramer with his MadMoney calls also.
By reading this article and posting you are missing YOUR PROGRAMMING, Mister Roboto.. Turn on your TeeVee Set now.
You are on a bad, bad internet website and your Government is watching you.
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Here's another event that many don't know about:
http://www.dailystormer.com/70th-anniversary-of-the-dresden-holocaust/
Jeez. Wow. Never heard this. Treason. Aiding and Abetting a war crime against the USA. Zio Much??
“The evidence was clear. Both Adm. Kidd and I believed with certainty that this attack … was a deliberate effort to sink an American ship and murder its entire crew…. Not only did the Israelis attack the ship with napalm, gunfire, and missiles, Israeli torpedo boats machine-gunned three lifeboats that had been launched in an attempt by the crew to save the most seriously wounded — a war crime….”
One possible explanation for the attack was that the Israelis were executing their Egyptian prisoners on a large scale. The USS Liberty was recording the Israeli communication about this. The Israelis wanted to prevent this getting out. Everyone thought they were the "good guys" then; we now know differently, big time!
To understand this you have to look back to 1967.The USA was beginning to favour Israel but had a more balanced approach to this conflict than exists today. Israel became aware of an Arab attack and had decided to secure their borders once and for all. They attacked Egypt first. We were spying on the conflict trying to determine what was happening. Israel didn't want us to intervene and stop the war until they had attacked and taken the Golan heights. The attack on the Liberty occured after their success against Egypt but before they had attacked and secured the Golan heights. Very ugly situation. Of course countries don't have friends, people have friends. Each country has it's own interests and on occasion those interests allign with the interests of other countries.
VIP BREAKING NEWS!!!!
Unknown country launches super secret space program:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD_yQZ4iNjY
Extra Credit:
UN Finds Credible Ties Between ISIS And Israeli Defense Forces:
http://theinternetpost.net/2015/02/13/un-finds-credible-ties-between-isi...
Beautiful Girandola!
Yo, downvoting chickentards that live daily in the denial of truth, FARK YOU!!!
Can't wait until you ziotard/fascist/nazi/socialist/commie pig eaters start that war with Russia for the evil banksters empire of chaotic dust. After the puppets move to start moar war, the first news will be that isreeal the satanic zionist rotschoils puppet clown state will definitely be the first to be blown up off the map. After that happens, the world's people will dance like you assholes did right after you executed and performed the 9/11 attacks for moar war profiteering.
FARK YOU CHICKENTARDS OF HELL. THE WORLD HATES ISREAL FOR THE EVIL THEY KEEP PERFORMING LIKE IN THE ARTICLE ABOVE.
God is going to cut you zio-bolshvics down some day and the world will dance in joy after that. Might even see world peace break out after you trouble making jerk-offs of Beelzebub are taken out of the world picture. Might even make it a holiday. Yeah, it will be called ding dong the evil witch is gone!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjPau5QYtYs
PS: Sir Tyler, how long are you going to allow this horseshirt spewage of the multi-account chickentards and their wicked agenda of information overload in the most outlandish ridiculous detractions from truth ever to come to pass here on ZH?
PLEASE ELIMINATE ALL THESE NEW TRASH TALKING LYING TIME WASTING ARESHOLES NOW SO THE CREW CAN HAVE SOME TRUTHFUL AND CONSTRUCTIVE COMMENTEERING.
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Very good until your PS. Dissenting views MUST be allowed. If they're right then it means most of us here are wrong. If they're wrong the facts will expose the wrongness.
Yes, true that Monty.
Some real points and fact driven commentary be it right or wrong, is proper and acceptable. But, it is getting to the point of too much bovine excrement and propaganda specifically kowtowing to the agenda of overloading the commentary here on purpose to distract folks, and deride away from the truth. Like, enuff is enuff already. One would certainly like to see moar truth, and less Horsewash.
It begs the question... How could we Americans let it happen more than once?!!!
Israel should have been surrounded by U.S. submarines and an armada of surface ships as a blockade for justification to what they did to us along with indictments for treason to the Bush Administration and members of Congress that were in on it!
Talk about smoking crack, who is supposed to indict these treasonous criminals in Washington? Tard
The treasonous criminals are the ones in power.
who is supposed to indict these treasonous criminals in Washington?
You and me and roughly 299,999,465 Americans "-" the House of Representatives and Senate!
Something about the 10th Amendment kicking in when treasons like this are committed?... But i haven't seen a campaign to get that started after the "truth" on 9/11 came out following the Commission Report with the FOIA request(s) and Building 7 that didn't become a part of the official record along with the latest 28 page document on Saudi Arabia's involvement in those event(s) peddled by members of Congress and an ex-senator!
Guess what I'm implying MB is that no one has the balls to take these guys out and we're very close to an "ending" but it's not the kind of one we both want.
Some background reading at the road ahead of us and what happens when your government and it's banks run out of money to keep things going like this sacrifice of empire 48 years ago!
As long as they don't get the guns there is still hope. Maybe they realize they will never get the guns thus the prodding of the Russian Bear --like they are begging for WW3, and other insanity going on. Meanwhile the elite buying haciendas in South America and New Zealand etc.
As long as they don't get the guns there is still hope. Maybe they realize they will never get the guns thus the prodding of the Russian Bear --like they are begging for WW3, and other insanity going on.
True MB. But hiding out in your basement with your rifle ain't gonna fix this one. Gotta starve the beast I'm afraid which means getting off the "grid" and I don't mean living deep in the woods picking berries where they can't find you either! It means divorcing yourself from the system that pays taxes to it -state local and federal that is discussed so often right here.
The only way to fix it is to take OWS "up a notch" and that means hanging around in Washington D.C. with numbers large enough that will say we're not leaving the 'belly of the beast" tell you make it stop! What does that mean essentially?... Having leaders from industry and past representatives from government and military that will provide the voice and the rest would certainly follow if the peace and civil liberties helped them find their center?... The thing I find so amazing after 14 years of what we've witnessed our own government do both at home and abroad is that the fear campaign that was ushered in behind the attacks of 9/11 have worked like a charm and it doesn't appear that enough of us are ready to stick our necks out to fight the good fight or at least try! If I could pick an age category that could volunteer that still has a memory of what actvism once was it would be the 55 - 80 age group that lived it during the 50's and 60's and has nothing to fear at this stage of their lives. Everyone that came after that is almost useless although to be fair there are some amazing young people that harness the talent for it that just need the help from that age group that let them down (like myself) and owe them something better than we're giving them!
I've said this many times before to friends and family that are witnessing what these cocksuckers in Washington are doing to us and I raise the question to them if you could change the course we are on which is looking like WWIII with our equal -would you sacrifice yourself in order to make it better for those that will follow you?... People are such cowards. Especially the ones that have said they have served honorably for their Country when they know that piece of paper that says honorable discharge and "purple heart" will never tell the story of what they did to an enemy that was never their enemy in the first place.
But you are certainly spot on that we're not seeing any of that... As Paul Craig Roberts terms it being "atomized", Well meaning but disorganized and without a real agenda for coming together to make it work. Until people get together families, friends, community organize with a commitment for camping out in front of the House and Senate and saying we're not leaving tell you change the direction on our terms from the ones that pay your salary and send our children to kill people and rob them based on whatever lies you come up with we will get our comeuppance and then it's too late.
The train left the station long ago. We can either stop the last set of wars we will ever see or let two other superpowers that have ideas and goals to make the rest of this world a better place finish it for us!
Peace