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The U.S. Government Wouldn't Cover Up a Foreign Government's Murder of Our Military Men ... Would It?

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On June 8, 1967, Israel attacked the American naval vessel USS Liberty in international waters, and tried to sink it.

After checking the Liberty out for 8 hours – and making 9 overflights with Israeli jets, within 200 feet … close enough for the pilots and the sunbathing Liberty sailors on deck to waive at each other.

Yet the Israelis attacked it with Mirage fighter jets, torpedoes and napalm.  The USS Liberty suffered 70% casualties, with 34 killed and 174 wounded.

The Israeli attack spanned two hours … as long as the attack on Pearl Harbor. The air attack alone lasted approximately 25 minutes: consisting of more than 30 sorties by approximately 12 separate planes using napalm, cannon, and rockets which left 821 holes in the ship.  The Israelis fired 30mm cannons and rockets into the boat.

Following the attack by fighter jets, three Israeli motor torpedo boats torpedoed the ship, causing a 40 x 40 foot wide hole in her hull, and machine-gunning firefighters and stretcher-bearers attempting to save their ship and crew. More than 3,000 machine-gun bullet holes were later counted on the Liberty’s hull.

After the attack was thought to have ended, three life rafts were lowered into the water to rescue the most seriously wounded. The Israeli torpedo boats returned and machine-gunned these life rafts at close range. This was followed by the approach of two large Israeli Army assault helicopters filled with armed commandos carrying what appeared to be explosive satchels (they departed after hovering over the ship for several minutes, making no attempt to communicate).

The Israelis clearly knew it was an American ship, tried to sink it, and tried to frame the Egyptians for the attack, as shown by the following evidence:

(1) The Liberty was flying a huge, brand new American flag. The flag was 5-by-8 feet.  The weather conditions were ideal to ensure the flag’s easy observance and identification, because it was clear and sunny, with a wind-speed which make for a constant ripple in the flag.  After the flag was shot up by the jets, the Liberty’s crew replaced it with a 7-by-13 foot American flag, which flew during the entire duration of the attack.

(2) The Liberty had a unique profile and didn’t look like any other boat, since it had more and bigger antennas – including large, high-tech dishes and giant towers – than any other boat in the world (it was an NSA spy ship).

(3) The Liberty was marked with uniquely American numbering and colors in front.

(4) The Israeli pilots shot out the Liberty’s communications equipment first, and specifically jammed the ship’s emergency radio signal … unique to American naval vessels in the 6th Fleet. The ships from other fleets and other nations used different frequencies, which the Israelis did not jam.

(5) The Israelis used unmarked fighter jets and unmarked torpedo boats during the attack.

(6) Recently-declassified radio transcripts between the Israeli attack forces and ground control show that – at least 3 times – an Israeli fighter jet pilot identified the craft as American, and asked whether ground control was sure he should attack.  Ground control repeatedly said, yes, attack the vessel.

(7) The Israeli torpedo boats methodically destroyed all of the Liberty’s liferafts one by one (which is a war crime).

(8) The only reason the Israelis did not successfully sink the Liberty and kill all of its crewmen was that one sailor duck-taped together antennae – and took many bullet wounds in the process – which enabled an emergency SOS to get out from the Liberty to American 6th Fleet.

(9) The Israelis later claimed that they mistook the Liberty for an Egyptian vessel.  But the Egyptian ship – the El Quseir – was an unarmed 1920s-era horse carrier out of service in Alexandria, four times smaller than the Liberty, which bore virtually no resemblance to the Liberty.

(10) President Lyndon Johnson believed the attack was intentional and he leaked his opinion to Newsweek.

Other high-level Americans agreed:

“I was never satisfied with the Israeli explanation….  Through diplomatic channels we refused to accept their explanations.  I didn’t believe them then, and I don’t believe them to this day.  The attack was outrageous.”
–U.S. Secretary of State Dean Rusk

“The evidence was clear.  Both Adm. Kidd and I believed with certainty that this attack … was a deliberate effort to sink an American ship and murder its entire crew….  Not only did the Israelis attack the ship with napalm, gunfire, and missiles, Israeli torpedo boats machine-gunned three lifeboats that had been launched in an attempt by the crew to save the most seriously wounded — a war crime….”
–Affidavit of U.S. Navy Captain Ward Boston, the legal counsel for the official investigation into the Liberty attack

“There is compelling evidence that Israel’s attack was a deliberate attempt to destroy an American ship and kill her entire crew.”
–Admiral Thomas Moorer, Chief of Naval Operations and later Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, 14 January 2004

“Israeli authorities subsequently apologized for the incident, but few in Washington could believe that the ship had not been identified as an American naval vessel…. I have yet to understand why it was felt necessary to attack this ship or who ordered the attack.”
–C.I.A. Chief Richard Helms

“Yet the ultimate lesson of the Liberty attack had far more effect on policy in Israel than in America.  Israel’s leaders concluded that nothing they might do would offend the Americans to the point of reprisal.  If America’s leaders did not have the courage to punish Israel for the blatant murder of American citizens, it seemed clear that their American friends would let them get away with almost anything.”
–George Ball, U.S. Undersecretary of State at the time, The Passionate Attachment

(Sources: Congressional record and videos shown below.)

Admiral Thomas H. Moorer – former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff – chaired a non-governmental investigation into the attack on the USS Liberty in 2003. The committee – which included General of Marines Raymond G. Davis, Rear Admiral Merlin Staring, former Judge Advocate General of the Navy, and former U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia James E. Akins – held Israel to be culpable and suggested several theories for Israel’s possible motives, including the desire to blame Egypt and bring the U.S. into the Six Day War.

Indeed, President Lyndon Johnson dispatched nuclear-armed fighter jets to drop nuclear bombs on Cairo, Egypt.  They were only recalled at the last minute, when Johnson realized that it was the Israelis – and not the Egyptians – who had fired on the Liberty.

An NSA report from 1981 found:

A persistent question relating to the Liberty incident is whether or not the Israeli forces which attacked the ship knew that it was American . . . not a few of the Liberty’s crewmen and [deleted but probably “NSA’s G Group”] staff are convinced that they did. Their belief derived from consideration of the long time the Israelis had the ship under surveillance prior to the attack, the visibility of the flag, and the intensity of the attack itself.

 

Speculation as to the Israeli motivation varied. Some believed that Israel expected that the complete destruction of the ship and killing of the personnel would lead the U.S. to blame the UAR [Egypt] for the incident and bring the U.S. into the war on the side of Israel . . . others felt that Israeli forces wanted the ship and men out of the way.

Allegedly:

Scouring the Liberty records in the LBJ Library in Texas, Ennes [an officer on the bridge of the Liberty] stumbled upon a smoking gun – a one-page memo of the minutes of the 303 Committee [the U.S. National Security Council group that reviewed sensitive intelligence operations] held in advance of the war in April 1967.   The Committee consisted of a handful of top level intelligence and government officials who examined black operations and devised plausible deniability for the executive branch in the event of public discovery of an attack.  The memo relates to a clandestine joint US-Israeli effort to blame Egypt for the sinking of the Liberty.

We haven’t yet located a copy of the alleged memo, and so we’re not sure we believe this explosive claim. But – given that Israel (1) used unmarked jets and ships, (2) destroyed the Liberty’s communication equipment and then jammed the Liberty’s emergency distress channel, and (3) destroyed all liferafts – the logical inference is that Israel intended to frame Egypt for the attack, and didn’t want the Liberty’s crew to be able to tell the world what really happened.

The following must-watch documentaries from the BBC, Al Jazeera and an independent producer provide first-hand interviews with the crew of the USS Liberty which prove that this was a failed false flag attack:

 

 

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Sun, 02/15/2015 - 17:33 | 5787866 Victory_Garden
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Like, Holy Macaroni James!

Wow oh wow have you hit a nail on the head. THIS REALITY is one of the biggest crimes committed by the evil murderous ziotrash. It is one of the most unreported and unknown facts among many, many other atrocities and war crimes by this evil satanic zionist trash from hell.

Dear God, can you imagine if the American Military actually woke up to this fact? The fact that they were fighting ONLY for the evil satanic banksters that start these wars for profits, and the cover-up of the ill gotten gains, purposely caused financial crashes, but more so to instigate moar hatred among the American troops.

There were and are still many kinds of these evil acts committed only by those who would profit the most from such heinous evil tactics. Many saw their fellow brother and sister soldiers murdered in cold blood like this.

How many remember those "Juba" videos with he Arab music in the background actually showing the merciless killings and wounding of many American soldiers during the war in Iraq started with lies, and zionist media dis/mis-information? Talk about inflaming! Everybody knew back then it was mosad and others doing the murdering of American troops to instigate moar hatred and anger. More justification to spend moar American blood, treasure, and moneygod for the MIC/zionist/satanic EVIL! Qui bono?

They were horrible to watch. Many people did not know then that isreal was the only country that developed this kind of camera on a sniper rifle back during that time. Ask, who had the ability to put out graphic videos like that and gets away with it? Why do you think they are still up after all this time, considering the heavy handed censoring and limiting of the constitutional law like they do? Can you say google/nsa?

THIS IS HUGE AS WELL AS THE COMMENT MADE HERE BY UPGRAYED.

Here is your american sniper.:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvXaswy5s8E

(hard copy this vid for future prosecutions)

 

 

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 15:14 | 5777018 SoilMyselfRotten
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“Yet the ultimate lesson of the Liberty attack had far more effect on policy in Israel than in America.  Israel’s leaders concluded that nothing they might do would offend the Americans to the point of reprisal.  If America’s leaders did not have the courage to punish Israel for the blatant murder of American citizens, it seemed clear that their American friends would let them get away with almost anything.”
–George Ball, U.S. Undersecretary of State at the time, The Passionate Attachment

 

And there you have it, a policy that still stands

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 14:46 | 5776870 numapepi
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What is the point of this article? Is it so that we will hate Israel and support the genocide of the Jews?

Clearly it was an atrocity and yes it was preplanned and heinously carried out. And is one example of the many atrocities carried out against innocent Americans in the military and out.

I would support the extradition and prosecution of those responsible... but I am not going to slavishly lap up the antisemitic bile.

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 18:11 | 5777819 lakecity55
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We are Anti-Zionist. Not anti-regular Jew person.

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 21:20 | 5778626 teslaberry
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i am jew and just because the nation state of israel is guilt of this particularl crime AS ALL NATION STATES ARE GUILT OF PARITCULARLY CRIMES----doesn't mean i am against the persistent existence of a state that is israel. 

 

i'm not saying you have to agree with everythign israel government does. many israelis are highly critical of their own government . if you remember , one religous guy even assasinated the president a way back. 

 

people have very very different opinions about how to properly lead a nation state that was born out of particularly difficult circumstances that WESTERN EMPIRES set up in the wake of syces picot and the holocaust. 

 

SOME OF THE JEWS AND REFUGEES FOUND A HOMELAND IN ISRAEL AND DECIDED THEY NEEDED AN ARMY TO PREVENT ANOTHER GENOCIDE. 

 

if you think you want to take away this army, youre' going to have to explain this position because many other militaries in the world have committed crimes, ALL OF THEM IN FACT, and yet i don't see you asking for their nation states to be destroyed or renounced or hated upon. for example russia and china?

 

so why all this hate for the state of israel as compared to SO MANY OTHER STATES YOU COULD BE FOCUCCSING ON AS HAVING HAD OUTIZED NEGATIVE CRIMES AND THAT HAVE TRIED FUCKING WITH THE UNITED STATES MILTIARY APPARATUS?

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 15:08 | 5776982 dexter_morgan
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Can't answer for GW, but that is exactly NOT the point. I'm taking it that his point is that no nation state is above criticism and investigation, be they Jews or whoever. And, it unmasks the ZWO for what it is - a lying murderous cabal willing to kill and murder whoever necessary and blame it on whoever necessary to expand their sphere of influence. So all these powerful people didn't buy their explanation - but what was done about it? Nothing, because more powerful people than those in the ZWO made sure nothing happened.

Because a million and a half Jews were killed during WWII by nazis does NOT put them on some pedestal where their actions and words CANNOT BE QUESTIONED, does it?

It also show US involvement (alpabet agencies no doubt) which is what I refer to as the ZWO - not all in the ZWO are Jews, not all Jews are in, or sympathetic to, ZWO. Most are honest hardworking people.

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 14:35 | 5776804 Dragon HAwk
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You can tell when an Article hits a nerve the trolls and thread hijackers come out in droves. The liberty was spy ship, Israel needed that spy ship out of there. America the people didn't pay a lot of attention, simply because there was a hell of a lot bigger things going on right then. My Mom rest her soul really believed it was the end of the World, the start of Armageddon

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 14:28 | 5776763 rsnoble
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Sad story, but do we need to really go back that far to research atocities when they're happening right now?

I suppose it does have relevance in the sense a lot of dumbasses in the US would never dream their gov't capable of such wrongdoing so they need to be shown.  Of course then they'd have the opinion "oh, we're more civilized than that now".  

Furthermore, presenting this infor to zh'ers is akin to telling porn star film makers that Holmes died of aids.

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 22:52 | 5778945 Tall Tom
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Sad story, but do we need to really go back that far to research atocities when they're happening right now?

 

Hillary Clinton. Why did you hijack rsnoble's account?

 

I know that you used the same excuse, "At this point what difference does it make?", for the death of Ambassador Stevens in Benghazi.

 

But this is published LEST WE FORGET what you assholes in Government, yeah, ike you Hillary, are capable of doing.

 

Relinquish rsnoble's account at once you foolish masquarading bitch from hell.

 

Fuck the NSA for giving out the passwords of User Accounts, here on Zerohedge, to the likes of Hillary Clinton.

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 14:20 | 5776728 teslaberry
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FUCK THIS ANTI-SEMITIC BULLSHIT.

that's all i'm gonna say.

the united states has killed its own people , it's own soldiers, and has had many false flags to get itself into ww1 ww2(bombing of pearl harbor was allowed to happen)

this continual harping on israel for being the source of america's involvement in the middle east is total bullshit.

it's all about OIL, the bush family and texas oil natzis', and the SAUDI CONNECTION THAT FUNNELS THEM TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

sure sure, please anti-semites, tell me how israel and jews are bad because the federal reserve controls the dollar.

CENTRAL BANKS PRECEDED ISRAEL'S VERY EXISTENCE, AND SO DID ANTI-SEMITIC CONSPIRACY THEORIES.

GW CAN GO FUCK HIMSELF ON THIS SLOW NEWS DAY.

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 15:39 | 5777133 Paveway IV
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"...this continual harping on israel for being the source of america's involvement in the middle east is total bullshit.

it's all about OIL, the bush family and texas oil natzis', and the SAUDI CONNECTION THAT FUNNELS THEM TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS..."

You have a point, teslaberry. Much of it has been about oil, but you conveniently ignore the Israel oil Nazis. Are you blind?

100,000 dead Iraqis and 10,000 dead U.S. soldiers for the Blood-for-Oil pipeline that benefits WHOM?

Despite Iraqi's hate for Israel and refusal to sell them oil, Iraq for some inexplicable reason is paying for a several-billion-dollar pipeline (when many cities don't even have running water) from the Southern oil fields to the Kirkuk-to-Haifa pipeline and Jordan is building an additional piece to Aqaba/Eilat that benefits WHOM?

Destruction of all the westward-flowing oil pipelines from Kirkuk to Syria even though those had been operating and profitable for both countries for decades. Neither country rebuilding or reopening them benefits WHOM?

ISIS wasn't a big deal when they were killing Syrians, but the second they threatened North Iraqi oil fields, they were. North Iraqi oil fields and the Kirkuk to Haifa pipeline benefits WHOM? 

A quarter of a million dead Syrians and five million homeless because Assad wouldn't allow transit of Israeli Leviathan gas north through their country's pipelines, which would benefit WHOM?

Lebanon economically ruined and kept on her knees by constant interference internally, bombed with impunity, and unable to develop their section of the Leviathan Basin (which would make the long-suffering Lebanese and the millions of refugee Palestinians there quite rich). Eliminating the Lebanese competition benefits WHOM?

The Golan is the historical geographical transit point for gas/oil from the east getting to Lebanese refineries or oil terminals on the Mediterranean. It will either be used for that transit point for pipelines to Haifa, or it will be permanently held by Israel as a security buffer for a new pipeline from Jordan around the Sea of Galilee, which would benefit WHOM?

Keeping Russian gas out of the EU as much as possible until a pipeline carrying Leviathan gas to Europe can be completed benefits WHOM? 

Every single chickenhawk warmonger pedophile in congress that's a die-hard supporter of Nettanyahu and can't wait to give more of my tax dollars to Israel IS ALSO psychotic about supporting the coup in Ukraine, arming Nazis and starting WWIII with Russia. Policy driven by these dual-citizen AIPAC whores benefits WHOM?

Political instability in Jordan will not be allowed - Jordan is central to all Israel's oil and natural gas plans. If every last Jordanian voted to refuse transit of oil or gas to/from Israel. the entire country would be destroyed and the oil and gas would flow. This will happen once the Arab world figures out that Israel plans to tap all the pipelines in Amman to complete their long sought-after revival of the Kirkuk-to-Haifa pipeline. Controlling the leaders of Jordan and spilling as much Jordanian blood as necessary to secure Israel's pipelines benefits WHOM?

 

"...FUCK THIS ANTI-SEMITIC BULLSHIT..."

I agree. Why are Palestinian and Jordanian SEMITES being singled out - they're the VICTIMS here. Or are you talking about anti-Khazarian oligarch bullshit? 

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 21:15 | 5778613 teslaberry
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all proposed pipelines from iraq go through syria and turkey . 

 

the random bullshit you are talking about with isreali pipelines is nonsense. 

 

the haifa pipeline is not  PLAN and just some random shit that was talked about. 

 

the aqaba pipeline goes to JORDAN NOT ISREAL AND FURTHERMORE HAS THE SUPPORT OF EGYPT BECAUSE EGYPTIAN HARDLINERS ----YES EGYPTIANS DESTROYED A PIPELINE THAT THE former egyptian government had been using for decades to sell natural gas to israel AND jordan. 

those pipelines were very profiteable for all parties involved and various entities intent on sabotaging egyptian irsaeli jordanian relations sabotaged the pipeline . there is a demand for gas/oil that needs to be delivered and so iraq is consdiering building pipelines to jordan. 

 

THE LEVIATHAN FIELDS ARE IN THE MEDITERRANEAN AND WERE DEVELOPED LONG AFTER THE AFPAQ WARS WERE EVEN STARTED. they had nothing to do with that stuff. 

 

so to answer you HALIBURTON, EXXON, CHEVRON, SAUDI ARAMCO TOTAL BP AND MANY OTHER OIL AND OIL SERVICES AND PIPELINE COMPANIES HAVING NOTHING TO DO WITH ISRAEL BENEFIT GREATLY. 

 

IN FACT ISRAEL PAYS AMERICAN COMPANIES TO HELP IT DEVELOP IT'S OWN GAS AND OIL RESORUCES BECAUSE ISRAEL DOENS'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE AND SIZEABLE CORPORATE SKILL IN THESE AREAS.

 

so you are fucking making up total lies. or intentionally distracting from massive american oil companies owned by rockefellers and duponts and carnegies and cheneys and other NON JEWISH FAMILIES. that will benefit

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 01:01 | 5779372 Paveway IV
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That's just the oil piece and did happen well before Leviathan was discoverd. But Tamar (about half the reserves of Leviathan) was already being developed when Leviathan was discovered five years ago. It was understood that all Leviathan production would be exported. Anything that happened in the last five years has been directly affected by the need to export it's twenty trillion or so cubic feet of natural gas. That gas can only go one place: Europe. Who does Israel need to prevent from supplying Europe (in the name of 'energy security'): why that would be Russia.

Israeli oil and gas companies (including drillers) own the majority of both Tamar and Leviathan - Nobel only owns a third. Refining, production, pumping and transport will be - of course - to Israeli companies.

"...IN FACT ISRAEL PAYS AMERICAN COMPANIES TO HELP IT DEVELOP IT'S OWN GAS AND OIL RESORUCES BECAUSE ISRAEL DOENS'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE AND SIZEABLE CORPORATE SKILL IN THESE AREAS..."

Gosh, all caps are - truly - as ANNOYING AS FUCK! No, Israel pays American companies for exploration and seismic surveying. They do not pay American companies for development and production because Delek, Avner and Ratio Oil are all Israeli companies and perfectly capable of that. In fact, they were talking about selling a chunk of Leviathan to Woodside (Aussie) and negotiating with BP to run a big-ass liquification plant. It doesn't matter who gets involved, Israel will stand to make billions from the Leviathan Basin - off-shore Mediterranean fields that belonged to the Palestinians for nearly a thousand years. Israel won't even give Palestinians a dime from oil and gas fields just offshore of Gaza because Israel claims the Gaza death-camp is Israeli sovereign territory (=the oil and gas are theirs, not their Gaza concentration camp residents). Fuck Israeli oil-Nazis.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 00:10 | 5779169 Paveway IV
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"...the random bullshit you are talking about with isreali pipelines is nonsense..."

Here's a decade-old article in case you just woke up from a thirty-year coma. DO try to keep up this time.

[Ever since 1948 when Israel was created, Israeli politicians have been dreaming of the reopening of the Kirkuk-Haifa pipeline and they tried their best to succeed even to the point of dealing with the "devil" that is.Saddam Hussein himself (3).

 

When Syria closed the pipeline Kirkuk-Baynas[sic] in 1982, in order to back Iran in its war against Iraq, Yitzak Shamir seized the opportunity to suggest to Baghdad that it should export its oil through Haifa. The Iraqi president refused.

 

Hanan Bar-on, under-director at the Israeli ministry of foreign affairs, came up again two years later by endorsing a Bechtel project to build a pipeline Kirkuk-Aqaba which Donald Rumsfled went to "sell" to Saddam Hussein in December 1983 and March 1984. The latter turned it down once more.

 

In 1987, Moshe Shahal, Israeli minister of Energy, had a survey made on the possibility of exporting oil to Haifa but, this time, through the Golan. The outbreak of the Gulf war of 1991 put an end to it.

 

It is only with the vote of the Iraq Liberation Act under Bill Clinton in October 1998 that the question of the transport of Iraqi oil was again on the agenda. The destabilization process against Syria becomes very clear against the US-Israel plans for the transport of Iraqi oil. So it goes for the position of France. As in Afghanistan where the war was conducted for the sole purpose of letting a passage for a pipeline, the United States want to have an allied regime in Damascus which will ensure that the Haifa terminal is well provided in "Kurdish" oil.--Gilles Munier, "The Kurdish Pipeline," AFI-Flash, January 30, 2006]

From Gilles Munier's original article, copied here: http://www.uruknet.info/?p=20095

The pipeline being built right now - today - is a combination of the Kirkuk-Aqaba pipeline proposed in 1983 and Shahal's 1987 Golan transit from Amman to Haifa. They've been cooking this up for thirty years - do you think I just made this up? 

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 15:52 | 5777242 Optimusprime
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+1.  Great post.

 

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 16:38 | 5777451 Ignatius
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Yes, but "100,000 dead Iraqis" is LOW by a factor of 10.

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 17:25 | 5777664 Paveway IV
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Yup - my mistake. There were at least a million Iraqi deaths resulting from the two decades sanctions and warfare by the U,S.

U.S. official figures for Iraqi and U.S. deaths are a half or quarter of the actual number. They use the same algorithm that the BLS uses. 

I think the government MADE me use the lower figure through my Samsung TV's voice control. Those BASTARDS!

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 15:16 | 5777030 Bastiat
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There is nothing anti-semitic about FACTS.

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 15:07 | 5776987 BolshevikPartyP...
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Hey Joo, when the crimes of the jews are discussed it's always always a fucking anti-semitic conspiracy theory.  It's always the same fucking shit with you people.  It's okay, though, more and more people are waking up to the communist satanic seedline rat faced hook nosed kykes and you're all caps shitty comment is not going to deter the truth from being exposed and spread to the goyim.

You can go fuck yourself on this day of exposing the jew crimes.

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 18:59 | 5778172 DLux
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Wow...way to keep it classy. Some Jews are to blame (Zionists), not the majority of Jews worldwide.

This type of vitriol only polarizes the Jews against the non-Jews. Maybe that is your intent.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/01/14/false-flag-attacks-by-zionists-against-fellow-jews/

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 14:46 | 5776868 sleigher
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If you think it is only about the oil it is because that is what they want you to think and it is working.  Sometimes the real truth is hard to get to and even harder to accept.  Who started the idea of the private central bank?  Who started Israel and was/is a large benefactor?  Answer those questions and you may start getting somewhere.

http://www.rothschild.com/israel/

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 14:31 | 5776779 DLux
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Right...the Zionist nation never did ANYTHING in the past before the Liberty that would implicate them in something like this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

True...the bankers are to blame...the Rothschilds built the nation of Israel. In fact, the Supreme Court of Israel building was donated to Israel by a Rothschild. It is their foothold in the middle east to extract resources.

 

 

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 17:53 | 5777839 lakecity55
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They built the Knesset and it is on Red Shield Boulevard!

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 14:29 | 5776768 steelhead23
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Being anti-Zionism is NOT the same thing as being anti-Semitic.  I have no animosity toward jews or judaism, but Israel's behavior sickens me - as does the US's.  I am neither anti the Israeli people nor the American people.  Their governments are another issue entirely.

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 21:05 | 5778581 teslaberry
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yes this is precisely the thing, but george any many others intentionally conflate the two and intentionally blur the grey lines of blaming people for the action of governments. 

 

george routinely encourages anti-semitic postings in his comments without challenging any of them or letting any of them know there is a difference that you mentioned. 

 

however when it comes to posters like me, he will regularly and routinely post a few choice cherry picked comments from people who emphasize the point that anyone like myself is using  rhetorical trick. 

hatred and hate mongering is not a black or white issue (pardon the pun) ,. there are shades of grey. george, over the years, has revealed his shades run to black, myopic and focussedon creating an audience that scape goats a singular cause and people as the source of all the problems.

inevitably, israel and zionists gets conflated with the fed when the fed and ALL WESTERN central banks all existed before the state of israel. 

 

george's approach of intentional conflation in his audience is not accidental. he doens't want you to think that people's are separate from governments. 

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 21:01 | 5778573 teslaberry
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yes youve posted this repeatedly emphasizing one persons comment. 

it is not a trick , it is a tired and worn strategy. it's one thing to criticize a nation, it's another to blame it for all the world's problems attempting to stir up a hornet's nest of hatred for that nation as the sole determinant of u.s. policy. 

 

the cia was headed by george bush , a member of the brown brothers harriman clan that benefits greatly from every war , also the CARLYLE GROUP.

yes, of course jews control everything and israel is the source of all american problems. 

 

no, the degree to which someone blames a problem for everything characterizes theri world view. your world view is distinctly in favor of destroying a country with a lot of jews in it , and allowing them to die. it is not easy to negotiate a grey zone of what i consider a fair criticism. but your routine and myopic focus upon israel ,

 

You activiely cultivate an anti-semitic audience who say and comment in ways blaming jews for everything and refuse  criticism of those  people who flock to you and comment that the jews and zionists (jews who support the existence of isreal) are destroying everything . 

 

you think you can simply cultivate that audience , and pretend like it doesn't exist and you aren't part of the people who sell that message. 

just as with people who can be criticial of african americans, not always being racist against black folks. a person can be critical of israel/jews and not be anti-semites. but pretending that they CANNOT be is a lie. whne people go over a line into cultivate hatred and scape goating, that's when it's happening. 

 

and frankly, it's happening with you. 

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 14:21 | 5776733 George Washington
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How do you know I'm not Jewish? Maybe I'm Jewish ...

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 20:52 | 5778548 teslaberry
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i never said you were not!!!. 

did i?

your reasoning is specious.  a person need not be jewish or genitle in order for them to continually attempt to stir a pot of hatred in order to blame things on people. 

 

georgeo soros claims to be jewish and most definitely is. and yet he admitted to stealing the bank accounts of jews sent to the ovens in the holocaust. oh , no please explain to me how i am holohoaxing you. 

 

george----------------i've been going to your website for years. you consistently focus on jews and the israeli's as a major source of your thesis for america's problems. 

 

you INTENTIONALLY conflate jewish people with the central banks and federal reserve. yes, some of the people in charge are jews, NO , the vast majority of jews are not in charge and just a minority watching the news as all other 99.9 % of people. 

 

the wrold is made of powerful families and institutions. one can blame them, but not fairly instigate against an entire group of people by espoousing hatred for that group, without being fairly called a HATE MONGER. 

you have been hate mongering on israel for a long time, soon enough i expect you will call for sanctions and divestment from israel, but not from the UK, SAUDI ARABIA, AND A HOST OF OTHER COUNTRIES IMPLICATED IN U.S. FOREIGN POLICY. 

 

WHY?

 

why is israel any more relelvant than a much bigger nation, the UK, that is officially under Nato's nuclear umbrella, while israel is not. 

 

 

you are looking for the conventient scapegoat. i'm not buying it , and while i politely enjoy much of your other non-israel related muckraking commentary--i politely say,  fuck yourself with regaard to your hate mongering.

 

when i see you become less slanted in your outlook, i will change my tune accordingly.  

 

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 22:08 | 5778797 usednabused
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Some of the people in charge are jews? Some? LMFAO how about pretty much ALL of them are, and the few who are not toe the ZIO line or are gone. And why is Israel more revelant? Where does the source of evil emanate? In Joodum thats where. What other people live around the world and network to control everything they can get their fucking hands on? Which other people reside in foreign lands, evn being born there, but consider themselves as dual citizens One country to steal from and one to be the motherland. You see its the Joo's fucking attitude that causes the strife. Read the book "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" for a play by play of whats happenned and whats happening. Proof definite and highly disavowed by those same Zionists.

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 19:49 | 5778358 shovelhead
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I don't care what you say GW...

I ain't gonna look at yer dick...

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 15:37 | 5777147 dexter_morgan
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I would hope you are Jewish, but not ZWO. That would be a pretty typical representative Jewish person. But I guess the thinking is not what is wrong or right, but if you were Jewish you could not/would not dare criticize anything Israel or ZWO does.

This ant-semite crap is infuriating. Just bullshit to distract the conversation away fro the ZWO actions.

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 14:31 | 5776773 begintowin
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Thank you George Washington for writing the truth about the evil of Zionism.  June 8, 1967, a day America should never forget and as a former sailor in the United States Navy during the Vietnam War,  I never will.

The State of Israel has been recognized as a sovereign nation by most members of the United Nations since 1948. Israel brazenly describes itself as America's ally but the truth needs to be unmasked. Let's look to history and see if they truly deserve such a title.

Did the IDF ("Israeli Defense Forces”) fight along side the United States in these military battles?

 

1. Korean War

2. Vietnam War

3. Invasion of Granada

4. Invasion of Panama

5. Persian Gulf War

6. Bosnian War of 1993

7. Kosovo War

8. Afghanistan War

9. Iraq War

10. Libyan intervention

11. Current war against ISIS/ISIL

Many United States military personnel shed their blood in these historical and contemporary battles. Where was Israel in all these conflicts, you know, America's ally, huh? Not one battalion, not one company, not one platoon, not one squad, not one soldier even as a token gesture of support from America's highly claimed ally. Not one loss of life from the IDF army for our country. Nothing. 

The reality is the Israeli Defense Forces have NEVER fought alongside the U.S. armed forces in any military battle since they became a country in 1948. Not one drop of IDF blood has been shed for America. 

However the craven Zionists like their Irgun forefathers are great at slaughtering the defenseless and occupied people of Palestine, stealing their land, year after year, decade after decade. They are the greatest threat to peace in the Middle East and should not be supported but instead condemned by the American people.

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 17:56 | 5777850 lakecity55
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The IDF does not want to shoot at people who can shoot back.

Killing entire villages, burning and looting civilians is their preferred style.

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 17:15 | 5777607 pupdog1
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"... and as a former sailor in the United States Navy during the Vietnam War,  I never will."

 

There is no such thing as a former sailor in the United States Navy.

"... And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction: 'I served in the United States Navy.”

 

                         --JFK

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 14:05 | 5776631 steelhead23
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Gee George, mext you'll be telling us the Gulf of Tonkin incident was made up, or that the U.S. orchestrated the coup in Ukraine and the civil war in Libya.  Dang, and here I thought you was an American.  /s

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 13:58 | 5776585 DearLeaderMaobama
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Is this ZH or infowars?  What a load of misleading half-truth BS this story is.

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 19:26 | 5778277 williambanzai7
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Take hike shill

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 16:38 | 5777454 Bumbu Sauce
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Nah this is ZH, which has its own special brand of insane jew hating zealots.  Congrats on getting the poorly named gw to post your status!  TBS the jews made him do it.

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 17:48 | 5777805 DLux
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Congratulations! You've won the simpleton of the day award for conflating being a Jew with being a Zionist. 

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 14:18 | 5776709 DLux
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Yeah, we jus a bunch a tinfoil hat wearin' conspiracy theory spoutin' dummies...right bubba?

http://memoryholeblog.com/2013/01/20/cia-document-1035-960-foundation-of-a-weaponized-term/

DL...it is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.


Thu, 02/12/2015 - 15:14 | 5777015 dexter_morgan
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funny part is over time more of those 'theories' turn out to be 'fact'.

The whole name calling schtick is just a ploy to put the person out there as a nut job, or hater in the hopes nobody will listen to them. Sadly it works most of the time.

Prime example is the formation of the Fed when the 6 guys secretly took Aldrich's train to Georgia and went out to Jekyll island and came up with the banking cartel known as the Fed. It was considered conspiracy theory stuff for years until the 6 guys started admitting it happened.

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 14:11 | 5776671 optimator
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Welcome to ZH, new member.  How is posting for scholarship points working out for you?

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 14:04 | 5776618 fleur de lis
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Maobama, you really need to do your homework before admonishing us. Your comment belongs on the TV.

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 14:02 | 5776612 DLux
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What does Bibi's dick taste like?

http://www.hasbara.com/

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 14:02 | 5776606 George Washington
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Welcome ...

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 14:13 | 5776680 optimator
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Posting for scholarships.  Great Natanyahoo idea.

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 14:07 | 5776648 Ignatius
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A virtual flood, lately.

Thu, 02/12/2015 - 15:53 | 5777246 The.Harmless.Jew
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A virtual flood, lately.

 

Alas, brother, no; it has been like this for many a time.  They've got the edge - think about it. 

 

We need to defeat Zionism once and for all.  In the UK it is even worse!  

 

I really hope that this thread is kept alive. 

 

 

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