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300 US Troops In Iraq Under "Severe Threat" After ISIS Seizes Nearby Town

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While military officials have stated that their "advisers" are not involved in the fighting, WaPo reports that ISIS militants have seized an Iraqi town within two miles of the Ayn al-Asad base where 300 US military advisers are stationed. The region remains under "severe threat" and the local council has called for "immediate and urgent military reinforcements” after the attack on the town of al-Baghdadi, which began in the early morning." It seems those non-boots-on-the-ground advisers are about to get a taste of what President Obama promised they would not...

 

 

As The Washington Post reports,

Islamic State militants seized parts of a town in Iraq’s western province of Anbar on Thursday, sparking fierce fighting within miles of a military base where hundreds of U.S. advisers are stationed.

 

Anbar’s provincial council called for “immediate and urgent military reinforcements” after the attack on the town of al-Baghdadi, which began in the early morning. Ayn al-Asad air base — where some 320 U.S. personnel have been training Iraqi troops and tribal fighters — lies five miles west of the town. At one point, the militants controlled 90 percent of the town, a local official told Reuters.

 

The clashes so close to U.S. forces will raise concerns as President Obama makes a formal request for congressional authority to use military force against the Islamic State, a move critics argue could open the door to real engagement with the militants on the battlefield.

 

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In a statement, the U.S. military confirmed that there had been “heavy fighting” in al-Baghdadi on Thursday. It said there was no direct attack on the base, though there were “reports of ineffective indirect fire in the vicinity.”

 

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The U.S. military said its ground forces were not involved in the fighting but that Anbar remains under “severe threat” by Islamic State fighters. In December, the Pentagon denied local news reports that U.S. forces were involved in direct combat with Islamic State fighters near the base.

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Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:37 | 5780309 Cognitive Dissonance
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So quasi surrogate American forces will soon be fighting actual American forces?

What a strange world we have created. Welcome to the Insane Asylum.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:38 | 5780313 VATICANT
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Guess it's time for America to go to war with that jihadi army it worked so hard to create

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:39 | 5780326 Bioscale
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I still don't believe the US troops will fight ISIS guys for real.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:42 | 5780346 cnmcdee
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Sorry  can't help right now Obama taking selfies...

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:44 | 5780358 SoilMyselfRotten
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Dr. Frankenstein going to fight his monster?

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:45 | 5780363 Publicus
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LOL, an army of 300 marines can't beat 10 ISIS ragheads?

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:52 | 5780410 ParkAveFlasher
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We haven't sent in Bradley Cooper yet.  Get Bradley Cooper in there with a hipster beard, for victory!

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:53 | 5780413 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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Great rallying cry for the start of Iraqi 3.0 if 300 “advisors” are beheaded.

Still laughing at these spider-web maps by the way. Are we so childish we can't admit half of former Iraq is now Islamic State? Only the roads God-damnit! Only the roads!!! Is Islamic State just a bunch of road warriors?

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:53 | 5780423 kliguy38
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Remember the Maine!!!

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:58 | 5780449 Panem et Circus
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This just sucks.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:06 | 5780497 Zero_Head
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It's Bush's fault

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:14 | 5780530 Four chan
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the term hot war used in 3 2 1..

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:17 | 5780548 Latina Lover
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I smell USSA pretext for a false flag to get boots on the ground, to conquer Syria. With Syria down, then the Quatari's can build their gas pipeline to Europe.

 

  Perhaps I am a bit paranoid..... or am I paranoid enough?

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:19 | 5780567 e_goldstein
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Not nearly enough.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:11 | 5780875 Manthong
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I have every confidence that Obama will assure they are safe because he does not want or need any catalyzing catastrophic event to galvanize the American people and the world behind him.

300..  That number seems to ring familiar somehow..

 

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:04 | 5781180 Paveway IV
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Yeah, it's all about freedoms and ISIS and stuff. 

It has nothing to do with this. Didn't we allready pay quite a few Iraqi and American lives for that?

Yet somewhere in Washington, some treasonous general is getting his marching orders from someone he should not even be talking to:

"I don't care if they're armed or not. Get those goddam goy out of that base and send them to protect our pipeline NOW!"

I say send all three wings of our B-52's out there and turn every last oil well, tank farm, pumping station and every last yard of that fucking pipeline into a glass-coated parking lot. Fake ISIS would disappear overnight.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:20 | 5780573 p00k1e
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Stay out of the major U.S. cities.

This will of course have to implicate Russia.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:22 | 5780583 SMG
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I agree with you. I wouldn't put it past the Oligarchs to murder people to further their goals.

 

I don't think you can be suspicous enough these day given the evil people running things.  I mean they're Satanists for goodness sake!

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:28 | 5780637 Larry Darrell
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its ground forces were not involved in the fighting

 

This statement is a bold faced lie.  There was a wave of ISIS estimated at about 1100 attacking the 300 "advisors."  The advisors managed to hold them back using small weapons from the bunkers in the north fingers.  For fuck's sake, from what I've been told they posted about it on Facebook.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:55 | 5780793 Mike in GA
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I hope the Secretariat.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:05 | 5780843 ThroxxOfVron
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"The advisors ... posted about it on Facebook. "

Soooo, now we are to trust that any crap posted on facebook that claims to be from foreign based military personnel must be legitimate?

I'm sure that the US has totally given up on the use of proper secure communication channels and that the most important thing for surrounded troops to do is whip out their iPhones, take some selfies and talk about the brave stand they are making in the middle of a thrid world war zone where the internet always seems to work!

Tweets on the ground!

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:29 | 5781003 Sanity Bear
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your odds are better it's the real deal than a SITREP printed on official letterhead

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:35 | 5781037 Larry Darrell
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While I respect the gist of your argument that Facebook is a lot of bullshit (I don't have an account), you give too much credit to the "overlords" ability to control the actions of those "on the ground."  I work with a former "spook."  To your statement about iPhones & selfies.....yes, they do it all the time.  It's been years since he returned from al-Asad, and he has plenty of digital photos of he and his peers hanging out on planes they downed and videos of oil rigs they set ablaze - yes I've seen the videos & yes it is clearly him.  Hell, he has them on his desktop.

We were talking about this ISIS shit last night while having a drink before going home, and the first thing out of his mouth this morning was that he spoke with one of his marine pals that is part of the "advising" crew that is there now.

Referencing the area as a 3rd world war zone leads me to believe you've not been to or seen any of these places first hand.  The reality is a lot of these areas have modern buildings and infrastructure.  Do you really think all of the entertainers that go on USO tours are performing live with state of the art equipment, but then shower out of a 5 gallon bucket after the show?

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:46 | 5781114 giovanni_f
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What exactly do 300 advisors advice? That is a helluva lot of advices to ponder...

Oh man - it stinks like the mouth of John McCain.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:01 | 5781197 847328_3527
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Don't worry, we'll get the real truth from Bryan Williams who rumor has it is embedded there.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:07 | 5781120 JRev
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“But I don’t want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.

"Oh, you can’t help that," said the Cat: "we’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad."

"How do you know I’m mad?" said Alice.

"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn’t have come here.”

-Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland (Iraqiland?)

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:28 | 5780624 y3maxx
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Will play out as.... Libya attack #2 Which American diplomat will be sacrificed for this one?

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:49 | 5780762 Overfed
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Hopefully both John Kohn and Victoria Nudelman.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:08 | 5780500 BaBaBouy
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wtf...

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:59 | 5780458 overmedicatedun...
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isis was wondering where they could use the chem weapons given them, do these advisors know sarin is close by?? only kidding everyone knows there is not a drop of chem weapons in Iraq.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:45 | 5780748 European American
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Remember the Maine!!!

 

Remember Thermopylae!!!

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:02 | 5780470 BLOTTO
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Please note that this former website recently changed to 'SIS' from 'ISIS'

'(Special Intelligent Services')

.

https://public.isishq.com/public/SitePages/Home.aspx

('isis' is still in the web address)

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Interesting find from J.Stone website (scroll down the main page abit to find article).

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:22 | 5780586 maskone909
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S.I.S.W.E.S.R

Special intelligence services with extrordinary scoped rifles.

Lol sorry its a liveleak thing

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:20 | 5780933 Zymurguy
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Still says "About ISIS" in their menu too...

 

Link to J. Stone website?

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:30 | 5781005 BLOTTO
Fri, 02/13/2015 - 15:06 | 5781855 Zymurguy
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thanks Blotto!

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:30 | 5780651 Urban Redneck
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They hardly need "300" given the expience with a couple of orders of magnitude fewer Blackwater "advisors" in Fallujah in 2004.

 

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:56 | 5781178 cnmcdee
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I don't know about the rest of you ZHer's but I have a dislike of these ISIS  overbreeding sand gophers somethin se-vere...

If I ran a military Id flatten a village or city a day..  Dresden style..

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:56 | 5781179 cnmcdee
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I don't know about the rest of you ZHer's but I have a dislike of these ISIS  overbreeding sand gophers somethin se-vere...

If I ran a military Id flatten a village or city a day..  Dresden style..

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 14:08 | 5781563 Dickweed Wang
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Only the roads God-damnit!

There's nothing between the roads in those areas except sand and scorpions.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:14 | 5780535 j0nx
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Damn I agree with these hipster beards. The old Nazi look with short and long hair at the same time with hipster beard appears to be making its way back to fashion. I call it the U-boat commander look.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:33 | 5780672 Uncle Remus
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ALARM! ALARM!

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:52 | 5780415 BigJim
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They can't ALL be marines. There's got to be at least a dozen central banking experts sent in to 'stabilise' the region.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:22 | 5780590 El Oregonian
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Pray that the wrath of the shedding of innocent blood be poured upon the heads of those who created for their benefit, that which is abominable to God.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:29 | 5780646 overmedicatedun...
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sand storm, no radio contact, isis in the wire, friendly iraq troops turn not so friendly- these guys better be lucky, cause chain of command ends with a mulatto who ain't quite sure bengazi was a bad outcome.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:30 | 5781009 stant
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300 marines under threat lol. Yeah right

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:47 | 5780382 power steering
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As John Kerry's tongue flicker goes into hyperdrive

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:43 | 5780354 paint it red ca...
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Why not? A producer pays all of the cast regardless whether hero or antagonist does he not?

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:50 | 5780404 Bioscale
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Perhaps you are right. They want and need corpses on US tv screens to have a reason for more war and troops.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:23 | 5780592 mrdenis
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Quick send in Brian Williams .....get a shot of him in a hell-o-coptor 

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:51 | 5780406 BigJim
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It's a shame the US military doesn't have any helicopters, Osprey or other troop-carrying aircraft. They could have evacuated those 300 'advisers' if only they'd thought ahead a little.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:25 | 5780604 lakecity55
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Yes, if we had helicopters and such stuff invented, we could rescue these men.

I heard the Russians have these 'helicopters.' Maybe we could borrow a couple.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 14:05 | 5781543 Dickweed Wang
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I heard the Russians have these 'helicopters.' Maybe we could borrow a couple.

Why not, we have to buy our rocket engines from them . . .

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:42 | 5780738 TimmyB
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No, Congress must vote to authorize a war against ISIS, or those "advisors" will be killed. Didn't you get the memo? ISIS isn't the only one that gets to use hostages.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:41 | 5780721 The.Harmless.Jew
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I still don't believe the US troops will fight ISIS guys for real.

Sure they can; it's all "pretend" anyway... As in, it was a game all along.  This whole thing is designed to keep Iraq depressed, destroyed, whatever you want to call it; all for the Zionist Talmudic Tribe.   The choosenites don't half like to harbour a grudge eh!  I mean, when where they locked in Babylon?  thousands of years ago, that's when!   Sadly, no one seems to remember that their prison sentence was entirely JUSTIFIED for subversion of the state, for treason, for treating the 99% of the citizens of Babylon like 2nd class citizens. I guess the Zionists no longer behave like that! /sarc  ZIONISM is the problem. 
Fri, 02/13/2015 - 14:03 | 5781535 Dickweed Wang
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ZIONISM is the problem.

Eliminate it and all of it's adherents (i.e. the Neo-Cons and the right wing Khazarian Gnomes) and 90% of the conflicts in the world will end.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 14:36 | 5781687 The.Harmless.Jew
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ZIONISM is the problem.

Eliminate it and all of it's adherents (i.e. the Neo-Cons and the right wing Khazarian Gnomes) and 90% of the conflicts in the world will end.

 

Exactly! 100% correct. 

 

The world won't turn into heaven on earth; but it will a lot better place to be in, and the other 10% of conflicts / problems will be manageable, and resolvable even. 

 

Take the Zionists and their cohorts and adherents out, and ANY problem can be solved! 

 

To any hasbara scum out there - go ahead - throw a challenge, and I'll show how the problem can be solved without Zionist garbage meddling.

 

 

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:43 | 5780741 G.O.O.D
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Those "advisers" are not troops, those are mercs.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:04 | 5780840 Overfed
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Isn't anyone who voluteers to go to war for pay a mercenary?

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:40 | 5780334 SamAdams
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"If these terrorists kill all 300 of those Americans, we have no choice but to declare war on the Caliphate State, where ever and however it exists", said the Zio-Con advisor to the TOTUS...

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:28 | 5780635 Usurious
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its a great way to extend the life of the FRN(dollar) a little while longer........gotta make the donuts...(create more debt)

 

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:23 | 5780594 lakecity55
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John Manchurian McCain:

"Now, boys, you are all moderate kinds of muslims, right?
"Yes, Senator.
"You are not gonna defect and get all pissed off about the great powers dividing up the middle east, are you?
"Nossir.
"OK, here are your guns."

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:57 | 5780805 thamnosma
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Gert over the McCain bullshit already.  He's an oild senile fart, one of 100 Senators.  This shit is on Obama and the "progressives" in charge now.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:26 | 5780977 Bunghole
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Fuck your red team/blue team bullshit.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:42 | 5781081 thamnosma
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Fuck you too dumbass.  John McCain has no power, dildo.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 15:13 | 5781899 SamAdams
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You totally ruined it by adding that comma....

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:34 | 5781032 Flagit
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"OK, here are your guns."

Umm, Sentator....that is a table leg.

No, that is your medication.

No, that is an umbrella.

No, that is a lamp.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:23 | 5780596 drendebe10
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No worries... the corrupt incompetent divisive arrogant narcissistic illegal indonesian kenyan alien muslim sociopathic pathological liar in chief fudgepacker assured us that the jayvee team is on the defensive...

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:51 | 5780598 drendebe10
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On 2nd thought, send the Nobel peace prize liar in chief fudgepacker over there to take some selfies with these "armed insurgents "...that will solve it.,.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:28 | 5780634 williambanzai7
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Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:34 | 5780682 Uncle Remus
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FATIMA 2016

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:39 | 5780325 AssFire
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Doing their damdest to make this fake war interesting.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:41 | 5780338 junction
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U.S. soldiers will be fighting Free Syrian Army members before too long.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:03 | 5780484 pods
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If things keep up, US soldiers will be fighting the Free Shit Army before too long.

pods

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:45 | 5780372 booboo
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The Last Stand of the 320 Advisors. Maybe Bradley Cooper can play CIA Station Chief Bob Shitmypants in the Mooovy

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:48 | 5780388 clade7
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"Get your hands off my Lobby Boy!"

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 15:24 | 5781961 MarsInScorpio
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Funny line, but I really hope the reality of it never comes.

 

The truth is that it will be a complete waste of lives, ended for the scum of the Earth neocons, and their stealth supporters.

 

It is incredible to think that the Congress is about to hand Obama dictatorial powers vies a vies the military. The scariest thought is that they will authorize to never need to come back for future authorizations for anything, and that the phrase "anywhere on Earth," includes the US.

 

My only consolation is knowing I got to enjoy at least part of America's Golden Age. The disappointment comes from having to live through seeing it all destroyed for such worthless human beings.

-30-

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:13 | 5780526 Bangin7GramRocks
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Wasn't it 300 poor good Christians stuck on a mountain just a few months ago? Now it's 300 patriotic hero Marines? Wow! This really is a scripted melodrama! Fellas, do what Papa Cheney should've done and pull out!
Leave that fucking desert to the Iraqis and wish them well.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:31 | 5780657 Canadian Dirtlump
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As has been stated you have the CIA fighting the regular US military.

 

That being the case one who follows this conflict will note that ISIS is getting their shit pushed in inside of syria while they seem to be given some opportunity in Iraq to continue their reign of terror. Stop me if you've heard this, but watch out for western forces to come in under the guise of fighting ISIS in Iraq only to end up fighting the legitimate government of syria, the plan from day 0.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 01:16 | 5783634 Rabbitnexus
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I can tell you what we have noticed. Wherever the USA and it's Wahhabi pets are "bombing" ISIS, the terrorists seem to be making gains regardless. On the other hand when it is just the Syrian army and maybe Hezbollah or the Iranians lending a hand, ISIS are being constantly routed. The Kurds handle things better on their own too, than when the USA and the flying princes join in.  Could this have anything to do with the remarkably poor aim the US and allied pilots seem to have when dropping supplies to ISIS by "accident" and dropping so much ordnance on Syrian infrastructure even after ISIS have scampered away?

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:54 | 5781167 teslaberry
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is it that hard to believe that ISIS are paid mercenaries who the saudis, and gulf state countries have recruited from the most backwards corners of the arab world and sent to fight in a war in which they will all likely die?

 

i don't think you realize how poor many of the saudi peasants are. the arab world is living in the dark ages except for a thin layer of princes and their families who have access to western built everything. 

 

there are plenty of villages where people still just have no meaningful education. let alone , industry or agriculture of any meaningful kind. 

 

saudi arabia does'n't export anything other than oil. nothing. perhaps some 'dates' . otherwise they literally are still goat and camel herders unless they are given money by the government to be princes. 

one day, when and if they cannot pump the oil and sell it-------just for a year or two or three-----the whole country will erupt in flames and rebellion unless outsiders stabillize the place. most likely they would help the saudis leadership commit genocide of its own people. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Saudi_Arabia#Non-Petroleum_sector

 

you're alternative theory is that everything is just alie and there is no fighting by no mercenaries and it's all just scripted television. 

 

if that is the case, how do you expect they will oust assad with televised violence but not real violence? let me guess, you believe the us. will secretly nuke assad?

nope. not a chance. there are real mercenaries who get paid peanuts and are ignorant as dogs fighting our wars without even knowing it, and paid to even shoot at american soldiers. 

do you think the u.s. military cares about its own soldiers? FUCK NO. 

this is all scripted theatre. but the bullets are real. 

 

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 15:05 | 5781849 Obamamerica
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Remember its not "fighting", its "workplace violence"...

 

 

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 01:24 | 5783626 Rabbitnexus
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They had to wait for them to ripen. You can't just go and create a baby monster from disparate bits of other monsters and expect it to give a good show. They let the thing they created ripen and now the plan is to ride in and slay that monster and if some relatively moderate governments and nations get caught in the crossfire that's just a fortunate coincidence since they "had to go anyway" and of course they can carry the blame for what the USA has done..

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:38 | 5780315 timeless21
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boots on the grounds in 3 2 1....or false flag or...just fuck you

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:38 | 5780316 Jaspergers
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wow crazy timing right?

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:38 | 5780319 Son of Captain Nemo
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Hope all 300 of them come back home in rubber bags.

Paybacks an evil smelly cunt!

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:45 | 5780337 cowdiddly
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But they are offering free land in Iraq. 6 ft by 2 ft plots.

All so I can go fight McCain's Marine Corp for Rayethon. Where do I sign.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:51 | 5780387 Son of Captain Nemo
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But they are offering free land in Iraq. 6 ft by 2 ft plots.

Because that 170 to 260 pounds of McDonalds fed fertilizer is as toxic as the DU and white phosphorous it's been dumping on it since it started it's search 11 years ago for chemical and biological weapons or so we were informed that put them there in the first place!

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:29 | 5780525 cowdiddly
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Well they have the same deal on the Eastern Front but it looks a little more nasty over there so the plot size being offered is 20'x60' with joint tenents in common'.So the logical choice for a new boot would be the sandman and the McMujahadeen

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:47 | 5780381 cnmcdee
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I sincerely hope for their safety however if 300 us senators were over there not so much..

The Camp Falcon Coverup may end up being superceded by this

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:57 | 5780444 Calmyourself
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Their are only 100 Senators..  My Senator just sponsored a bill to protect monarch butterfiles..  I am so satisfied with my betters governing me... sigh..

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:16 | 5780552 lakecity55
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We could find some retired senators....up the count a bit.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:33 | 5780673 Calmyourself
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I like it, we got Rockefellers and more, if not them their children can go fight..

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:31 | 5780653 GeezerGeek
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From what I read, it's not so much protecting them as creating sanctuary areas. They really need to be protected from the likes of Monsanto.

Meanwhile, who's protecting average American citizens from Monarch Butterfly Hussein Obama as he flits from one lie to the next?

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:34 | 5780683 Calmyourself
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Oh good sanctuary areas where the government can control more land than they do now, oh goodie...  Again, they know what is best, they have Top Men working on it..

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:41 | 5781071 horseman
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Add state senators to the fed senators and we will be well over 300.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 15:18 | 5781925 Obamamerica
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That's not surprizing...Monarch butterflies are from Mexico

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:47 | 5780385 oudinot
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Nemo-you are an Asshole!.

Don't take your misdirected rage out on the poor peon soldiers, direct your rage at their political handlers and the MIC whose chickenhawkn staff will never even see a battlefield.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:57 | 5780442 BigJim
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Wishing anyone dead is pretty ugly. Who's to say anyone 'deserves' to die? Having said that, if you join the military, you are expressly consenting to help an institution that routinely makes that decision, and regularly gets it wrong.

And let's not forget that the 'poor peon soldiers' are ultimately the ones that enable the MIC. Without them, we would just have lunatics like McCain shouting out orders to an empty wheatfield.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:00 | 5780820 TimmyB
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Some "choice." Starve or join the military.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:12 | 5780891 Son of Captain Nemo
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Some "choice." Starve or join the military.

Only if you're bought and paid for within the system and are incapable of thinking "out of the box"!

At this point...

The Founding fathers would be telling Putin to wipe our asses off the map!!!

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:51 | 5781471 Vooter
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Plenty of poor people don't join the military.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:09 | 5780508 Son of Captain Nemo
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From an iraq winter soldier.  Lets just hope they don't marry a billion dollar whore and turn out like John Kerry!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwwMF6biCJU

 

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:12 | 5780520 ross81
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those "poor soldiers" willingly signed up for all this empire building!  

 

Don't you forget it.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:52 | 5780416 lakecity55
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Nemo, you have some great posts, but if I ever meet you I will punch you in the fucking face for that remark.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:56 | 5780438 Son of Captain Nemo
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lake

I'm actually surprised you made that statement.

It just points out how truly fucked we are when you know the only way you should stop it at this point is to AWOL your future assignment(s) when they've been illegal since we started them based on a lie.

The UCMJ lives brotha!  How 'bout taking orders from that for a change?

I'll take that punch of your's anytime!!!

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:08 | 5780499 lakecity55
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I have calmed down a bit. Sorry.

But, those guys are in a jam made by the PTB.

I have been in a situation like that, it was reflex.

Those guys were ordered to do a shitty job in a shitty place. I do not want them dead.

If they were like me, they enlisted or were drafted (I go back to 69) and they don't deserve that kind of comment.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:11 | 5780516 90's Child
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Yet all you hypocrite fuckers on here wish death to bankers.

Bankers are just doing their job whether they know of their actions or not.

If you're ignorant enough to join the armed forces then you should accept the fact you've been cast a martyr to die for the cause.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:14 | 5780538 lakecity55
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I think they should be arrested and tried and jailed.

We all use hyperbole here.

Would I piss on a burning bankster? Probably not.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:17 | 5780555 90's Child
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We've all seen what being tried does.

How many years is Corzine doing?

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:18 | 5780564 lakecity55
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I am too idealistic and I have my Mother's pride.

But, yeah, we need to try these guys.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:39 | 5780706 Uncle Remus
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Fuck trials.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 17:20 | 5782544 blentus
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Yeah.

We should try whether they are fire resistant, for example.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:11 | 5780519 Son of Captain Nemo
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lake

His favorite sin is pride!

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:17 | 5780527 lakecity55
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Yep, I'm human.

I apologized to you.

I call a truce.

Agree?

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:25 | 5780607 Son of Captain Nemo
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Lake

We've got what is coming to us and you proved my point!

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:46 | 5781111 Flagit
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I have arranged a meeting between Nemo, Lakecity, Merkel, Putin, Poroshenko, Yats, Holland.

William Hung will sing karaoke until you all reach an agreement, to make plans, to schedule a ceasefire and debt restructuring program.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:03 | 5781213 Son of Captain Nemo
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William Hung will sing karaoke until you all reach an agreement, to make plans, to schedule a ceasefire and debt restructuring program.

Flagit

It certainly can't hurt at this point?...

One of the best lines from this movie that explains us better than anything I've ever seen!

A "peace button" and "born to kill"

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:16 | 5781279 Flagit
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"We've got to keep our heads together until this peace craze blows over."

 

Yea, it kinda does.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:29 | 5781356 Son of Captain Nemo
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"We've got to keep our heads together until this peace craze blows over."

"." 


Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:46 | 5781449 Clever Name
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I have recently been trying to come to grips with my views on war/vets/active military and the morality of those involved. I know some guys, both active duty and vets, who I hate to point out to what I see as immoral activity (and I'm certainly no saint) , i.e. fighting a war 'over there', because I dont want to attack them because they believe they are doing the honorable thing. When I asked about it (morality of war in IQ/AFG) I got the worst answer from one of them-"These guys are just doing a job". I was pretty much stunned and swallowed any answer I couldve given, which wouldve been along the lines of "That sounds a lot like 'I was just following orders'".

I wonder, is it me? Do I just not see the bigger picture? I cant believe that. Whats right is right, no? Why the f*ck am I posting this here, anyway?

 

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 18:27 | 5782796 Son of Captain Nemo
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I wonder, is it me? Do I just not see the bigger picture? I cant believe that. Whats right is right, no? Why the f*ck am I posting this here, anyway?

CN

Probably because you're as incensed at what you see as I am in the senseless brutality in the minds and souls of Americans that knowingly understand they were lied to into going to war and consider the threat of unlawful imprisonment or dishonorable discharge along with the paycheck more important than the fact they are continuing to commit crimes against humanity based on those lies.

This will end.  And when it does it will end badly for this country as it should!

 

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:21 | 5780577 Caleb Abell
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As Vice President Cheney would say: So what, they volunteered.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:47 | 5781454 Vooter
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"But, those guys are in a jam made by the PTB."

They fucking VOLUNTEERED. And if they didn't know what they were really volunteering for, then they're fucking STUPID. Whose fault is that?

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:16 | 5780545 Greshams Law
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I spent my last months (of five total years) in Iraq at Al Asad. It has an airstrip capable of handling very large aircraft. The base is easily defended. There is no excuse for taking losses there.

That being said, without a clear military objective the deployment there is pointless.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:52 | 5780779 cro_maat
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There is a clear MIC / CIA / NWO objective and that is all that counts to TPTB. Winning and losing in the conventional sense is only good for the propaganda of history books.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:52 | 5780417 Son of Captain Nemo
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Warm up for the Donbass...

If this upsets anyone you ain't seen nothin yet!!!

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:49 | 5781464 Dickweed Wang
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Warm up for the Donbass...

By the time NATO gets directly involved in Ukraine the Russian Army will be all the way to Kyiv.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:56 | 5780422 forwardho
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For your sake, and all who you may care for.

Hope there's no such thing as Karma.

Wishing death on those you do not know put an ugly stain on yours.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:05 | 5780487 Son of Captain Nemo
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Wishing death on those you do not know put an ugly stain on yours.

Tell that to the 3 million and counting we've killed and the 10 million we've displaced since 9/11?

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:46 | 5781400 semperfi
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So then you are rooting for ISIS.  Well then get your ass over to ISIS land, wrap a towel around your head, and go up and challenge a group of US Marines and we will see who dons the bodybag.  No matter how fucked up our side is I'm going to defend it to my death. My brother could be one of those 300, or my nephew, or niece, or good friend, or one of his brothers, sisters, etc. If my side is way too fucked up, like what happened in USSR under Stalin for instance, then I would get the hell out.  So if you feel this way then get hell out.  We have some MAJOR problems on our side but that's not the way to solve them.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 01:33 | 5783650 Rabbitnexus
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It would be justice in one way however it would be exactly what the Warpigs want as an excuse to send more troop and more death machines so once again the losers will be the long suffering civlians of the area.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:38 | 5780320 Quinvarius
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Obama has to actually pick a side now.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:46 | 5780373 paint it red ca...
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Picking sides are a thing of the past. This is the tail wagging the dog.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:55 | 5781173 Flagit
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Is "BOTTOMS" a side?

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:46 | 5780378 sessinpo
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He picked a side before he was even president

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:50 | 5780400 Earl Slaughter-...
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Why pick a side when you can play and profit off both?

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:24 | 5780601 e_goldstein
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 Obama has to actually pick a side now.

Nah, he likes being in the middle, that's what makes him a happy Pierre.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:40 | 5780333 paint it red ca...
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Surprise, Surprise (or Shazamm!, in my best Gomer Pyle) troops in harms way just as potus wants to declare a war with no limits on theater, combatants, or objectives.....

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:40 | 5780335 Lanka
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All according to the plan.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:41 | 5780339 world_debt_slave
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Nobel Peace

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:41 | 5780340 taketheredpill
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PAGING COLONEL CUSTER...

 

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:46 | 5780379 Earl Slaughter-...
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Agree-- Little Big-Horn was the first thing that came to mind.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:42 | 5780347 Hubbs
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Ahh, gradualism/incrementalism/mission creep at its finest.

 

And the advisers were placed close enough to the ISIS front, that they will have to suddenly be "reinforced or rescued", ( assuming a non Benghazi bait- trap-sacrifice situation)?

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:42 | 5780351 taketheredpill
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If these US Troops were wiped out by ISIS the PR impact would be comparable to September 11th.

Not that they would be deliberately sent into harms way.

 

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:50 | 5780403 lakecity55
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No, of course not.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 10:57 | 5780445 Farmer Joe in B...
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300 American lives.... small price to pay to justify a full-scale incursion into Iraq, Syria, and wherever else we want to fuck some shit up.

Seems like things are falling right into place....

'merica!!  Fuck yeah!!

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:35 | 5780690 NuckingFuts
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Think about this.... If you were 25 years old you would believe we have always had troops in/been at war with Iraq. Welcome to 1984, are you ready for the Third World War?

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:04 | 5780845 RabbitOne
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