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Patriot Act 2: Obama Executive Order Will Promote Sharing Of Confidential Information With Corporations

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Here come the "information sharing and analysis organizations", or ISAOs.

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In the aftermath of the Snowden whistleblowing scandal which has now all but been forgotten, there was a brief period when it seemed the growth of the US spying apparatus would be halted if not put into reverse. Those days are long forgotten and later today Obama is expected to to sign an executive order "that aims to make it easier for the government to share classified cyberthreat information with companies."

The spin, as proposed by the WSJ, is that "this will be effort designed to spur collaboration and deter hackers, the White House said." In reality what Obama's latest executive order will do, is expand the universe of entities that has access to the trove of private confidential data contained in the vast government spying apparatus, which as has been made all too clear now focuses as much on US citizens as it does on legitimate foreign threats, and further eviscerate the concept of individual privacy in the US.

From Reuters:

The order sets the stage for new private-sector led "information sharing and analysis organizations" (ISAOs) - hubs where companies share cyber threat data with each other and with the Department of Homeland Security.

 

It is one step in a long effort to make companies as well as privacy and consumer advocates more comfortable with proposed legislation that would offer participating companies liability protection, the White House said.

 

"We believe that by clearly defining what makes for a good ISAO, that will make tying liability protection to sectoral organizations easier and more accessible to the public and to privacy and civil liberties advocates," said Michael Daniel, Obama's cyber coordinator, in a conference call with reporters.

Obama will sign the order shortly during a conference on cybersecurity at Stanford University in the heart of Silicon Valley.

As the WSJ adds, "much could depend on whether intelligence agencies such as the National Security Agency and the Central Intelligence Agency participate in any arrangement that allows classified information to be shared with companies." Sadly, if history is any guide, the NSA, whose "safekeeping" of private US citizen data has a woeful track record, will be quite instrumental in spearheading an effort which many have dubbed the Patriot Act for the digital age.

Ironically, this latest move comes as as big Silicon Valley companies "prove hesitant to fully support more mandated cybersecurity information sharing without reforms to government surveillance practices exposed by former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden."

Cybersecurity industry veterans said Obama's anticipated order would be only a modest step in one of the president's major priorities - the defense of companies from attacks like those on Sony and Anthem Inc.

 

Obama has proposed legislation to require more information-sharing and limit any legal liability for companies that share too much. Only Congress can provide the liability protection through legislation.

The bottom line is that all Obama is really doing is not only promoting data sharing between the government and key private corporations - and one wonders just how reciprocal such sharing will be - but effectively indeminifes them from obtaining and processing such data. "Businesses are unlikely to share a lot of timely and "actionable" cyber intelligence without liability relief, said Mike Brown, a vice president with the RSA security division of EMC Corp."

"Until that gets resolved, probably through legislation, I'm not sure how effective continued information-sharing will be," said Brown, a retired Naval officer and former cyber official with the Department of Homeland Security.

 

Senator Tom Carper, the top Democrat on the Senate Homeland Security committee, introduced a bill this week that incorporates much of Obama's plan. But Republicans control Congress, and they have yet to sign on to the idea.

 

"This is an urgent matter and we are working with anyone that we can up on the Hill to make that happen," said Daniel, who had not yet reviewed Carper's bill.

 

Getting a bill through Congress will require at least the support of big Silicon Valley companies such as Google Inc and Facebook Inc.

Curiously one company which has no qualms about collaborating with the US government also happens to be the largest company in the world currently by market cap:

Obama also will meet privately with some executives on Friday. They are expected to press again for surveillance reform and support for strong encryption, which some in the administration have faulted recently on the grounds that it enables criminals and terrorists to hide their activity.

 

Google, Facebook and Yahoo are not sending their chief executives to the Stanford conference because of the rift, according to an executive at a major technology company. Apple Inc Chief Executive Tim Cook will give an address.

One wonder if perhaps recent leaked discoveries such as that "NSA Mocks Apple's "Zombie" Customers; Asks "Your Target Is Using A BlackBerry? Now What?" has anything do with with AAPL's willingness to engage in full-blown symbiosis with the US government. One also wonder what if anything would happen to AAPL's record sales if it were to just say no to Obama.

Many questions, but one thing is clear: America's relapse into the second coming of the Patriot Act is coming fast and furious, which as some also say is par for the course for the president who, just like Bush, has now been given a blank check to send US troops not only to Iraq but any place where "ISIS operates", if only at the discretion of the Pentagon.

So to summarize:

  • the good news: no more North Korean "hacks" of Sony straight to YouTube comedy flops.
  • the bad news: the trade off will be even less personal privacy for those who feel the urge to be constantly on their smartphones and otherwise connected to the grid.

Still confused? The NSA laid it out best:

 

 

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Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:19 | 5780928 firstdivision
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When dafuq does this ride stop?  I want off.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:20 | 5780935 Bumbu Sauce
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You will be thrown off when you ar eno longer useful to the party, unperson!

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:21 | 5780947 firstdivision
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I shouldn't have gotten on when I was presented what we'd be riding in http://www.yearofthetigerlilly.com/wp-content/uploads/south-park-bicycle-300x225.gif

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:25 | 5780969 pods
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Always more. That is what these fucks want.

TVs that record you, electric meters that sniff out illegal activity, keyloggers, COFFEE program, snitches and informants.

Thank you Roger and the guys:

"Mother should I trust the government."

pods

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:27 | 5780987 Bumbu Sauce
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Put a Samsung smart tv and a Nest thermostat in this dissenter's home STAT!

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:37 | 5781052 edotabin
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Next time I need to call a .gov agency, I'll just call Brawndo.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:40 | 5781062 BLOTTO
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Are we all on candid camera?

 

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:42 | 5781077 Manthong
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At least we don’t have to worry about a civilian national police force just as strong and powerful as our military to enforce the will of the state.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:53 | 5781157 ParkAveFlasher
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I'm glad that its a concern of National Security, what I've been texting my brother about given the hard times he's having divorcing his wife.  I also think it's paramount to security exactly what soup I want my wife to order for take-out night, and precisely when I give the go-ahead - from the desk as I'm leaving work, the bus, or the walk from the station.  These details are of paramount importance to our fight against terrorism.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:03 | 5781212 Took Red Pill
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and Facebook is the worst! http://saintsal.com/facebook/

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:15 | 5781269 Skateboarder
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Thanks for that link - I'll pass it on.

A lot of people waited a long time for comptuer technology with current processing speeds to come about. Now that it's here and co-opted, 'technology' is really really gay (non-homo usage of the term, for those who take offense). It's fucking gay as fuck. Cringeworthy statement, that one: "I love technology", and heard all around. Yeah, I guess you love being a bitch. I don't. Long guitars and skateboards.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:26 | 5781339 NotApplicable
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Some people get really confused when they know that I'm a web developer, yet will never own a cellphone nor participate in any social media platform.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:29 | 5781358 Tom Terrific
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Good for you.  Most people when confronted with persons who won't use the tech available immediately assume you know nothing about computers or tech when it actually should be the opposite.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:37 | 5781404 Yes We Can. But...
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He didn't tell us we had to take the change up the ass.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 14:07 | 5781552 TruxtonSpangler
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Ill take fascism for $100 alex

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 16:42 | 5782353 Cadavre
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THe monkey ring the buzzer means your category entitles you to to a boner, err bonus round if you can answer this wquestion:

Who is the most dangererous hacker group on the third stone from the sun?... err ... the North Koreans

- Nope

The Russians

- Nope, you get one more chance

Ok, I know, the Chinese .....

BUZZ_CRAAAAAANK

One more chance please, is it that Nigerian prince guy who emailed me with the promise of zillions if I deposited money, which I did, into his checking account?

Answering a question with a question. Only in America, However, none of your answers were correct. but it's understandable, especially giving the fact that most Americans are getting the collective fudge packed daily by faux bling heros and CSPAN twits werking in service to the fascioligarchs!

The answer to who is the most dangerous hacker on the planet is ... ta da da daaaaa ..., the NSA.

Most Dangerous People on the Internet Right Now!

" ... weakening encryption standards and algorithms,tapping the undersea cables of private companies like Google and Yahoo show just how dangerous and out of control the agency can be."

The NSA is the Most Dangerous Person on the internet

Top of the list, unsurprisingly, is the NSA. Throughout recent years, the NSA has been painted as the biggest threat to Internet users.

GOT A KNACK FOR HACKING AND A DESIRE TO SAVE THE WORLD? THE NSA HAS A COLLEGE PROGRAM JUST FOR YOU.

" ...the NSA has an interest in identifying students that have offensive security and hacking abilities."

 (above article argues NSA is helping us - but could help us more if only NSA hiring practices allowed felons to be on the payroll

NSA Backdoor in Every Microsoft Operating System

Computer security specialists have been aware for two years that unusual features are contained inside a standard Windows software "driver" used for security and encryption functions. The driver, called ADVAPI.DLL, enables and controls a range of security functions. If you use Windows, you will find it in the C:\Windows\system directory of your computer.

ADVAPI.DLL works closely with Microsoft Internet Explorer, but will only run crypographic functions that the US governments allows Microsoft to export. That information is bad enough news, from a European point of view. Now, it turns out that ADVAPI will run special programmes inserted and controlled by NSA. As yet, no-one knows what these programmes are, or what they do.

For your notebooks, ADVAPI.DLL = PRISM.

I clawed through a tedious IEE ascribed project (Word.DOC) for a dot org that turned into a dot gov. The specification only allowed MS IE as the browser. With IE, providing ports are not blocked, and active x and active scripting are enabled, I was able to send myself an unregistered email that included the entirety of my Desktop's CDO contain, my encrypted password and file names on my system - all - with just a move of the mouse over a region of the screen. It was totally unnoticeable and very very quick.

Microsoft admitted to servicing corporate and agency backdoor requirements 15 years ago .. here  and here (Yahoo and WSJ pulled their stories that included an MS executives admissions - why am I not surprised)

Microsoft Corp. acknowledged Thursday that its engineers included in some of its Internet software a secret password -- a phrase deriding their rivals at Netscape as "weenies" -- that could be used to gain illicit access to hundreds of thousands of Internet sites world-wide.

Why would a firm like Microsoft, a poster corporation for American ingenuity and enterprise harm their customers and violate the rule of law. Could it be ....

Microsoft Admits Keeping $92 Billion Offshore to Avoid Paying $29 Billion in US Taxes

Microsoft Corp. is currently sitting on almost $29.6 billion it would owe in US taxes if it repatriated the $92.9 billion of earnings it is keeping offshore, according to disclosures in the company’s most recent annual filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The amount of money that Microsoft is keeping offshore represents a significant spike from prior years, and the levies the company would owe amount to almost the entire two-year operating budget of the company’s home state of Washington.

The company says it has “not provided deferred US income taxes” because it says the earnings were generated from its “non-US subsidiaries” and then “reinvested outside the US.” Tax experts, however, say that details of the filing suggest the company is using tax shelters to dodge the taxes it owes as a company domiciled in the United States.

Microsoft has also admitted to paying Chinese taxes.

One has to ask why are encryption solutions and merchant solutions and desktop security systems trundled with US branded desktop operating systems so easy to crack and why are they getting away with it? The second part is easy, the culprits are protected by the most powerful force known to man, the Holocaust Shield

Everybody is in on it. Apple, Guug, Quicken, etc etc etc,; and anybody else that makes embedded desktop modules. Big question: This is the behavior of a sociopathic paranoid. What are they so afraid of. NSA has enough to blackmail everybody on CSPAN by now. Does NSA think it's anymore protected from 300 Million American assholes than an any other pretense of US governmental institutions or US flagged corporations. Who the fuck do these zero brains think they're fucking with - another politician -blow me bitchez - ya got another thing coming! 

To the the CSPAN strutters, keep it wet and tender baby, we be knocking at the door real soon!

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 20:42 | 5810411 Self-enslavement
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Stanford Chosenites will be dispatching drones to eliminate all non-chosenites living in the U.S. All others will be bombed from Israel. Fucking brilliant.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 14:26 | 5781643 Ignatius
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The drug dealer that doesn't use!!

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 15:16 | 5781914 shouldvekilledthem
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The comment section is a social media platform, imbecile. :)

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:27 | 5781348 Tom Terrific
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I wouldn't use the term "gay."  Use the term WMD.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:31 | 5781366 pods
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I sent that out too. Seems they must have a file on me. Lovely.  

Can't wait for the Minority Report ads to come online.  

pods

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:49 | 5781465 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Now that it's here and co-opted, 'technology' is really really gay (non-homo usage of the term, for those who take offense). It's fucking gay as fuck.

That's fucken gay as hell! Pissing me off...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRVpYWKkauw

Cringeworthy statement, that one: "I love technology", and heard all around.

Yeah, they love technology up the ass. That's fucken retarded gay.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 14:37 | 5781689 Skateboarder
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Sometimes 'fuck' and 'gay' are the only words that do justice in conveying an idea, as they don't have synonyms. ;-)

That South Park segment is great. Cartman's anti-Obie stance is pretty much the only one on teevee, isn't it...

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:03 | 5781215 Anusocracy
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All of this is about control - a very powerful survival force.

Of course, that which is controlled is the loser.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:53 | 5781164 ml8ml8
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What we really need is a Department of the Internet.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnY3roP-oJI  

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:59 | 5781188 new game
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the king has spoken, bow down and speak softly. compliance is advised.

the king will decide your fate. executive order-wtf happened? where is the checks and balance here, folks wev'e got a very large problem here. we are subject to the king?

the club is one. gone galt has a new meaning...

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:22 | 5781300 BLOTTO
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Speaking of the 'King' - the new released movie 'Kingsman: The Secret Service' plot is interesting.

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Spoiler Alert: 'The film stars newcomer Taron Egerton as Eggsy, a rebellious teen recruited into the titular U.K. spy agency by Harry Hart (Colin Firth). Meanwhile, a billionaire named Valentine (Samuel L. Jackson) pledges to give every citizen of the world free cellular and Internet service for life via phones his corporation distributes. What they don’t know is that Valentine can manipulate his global service network and turn the billions of users into bloodthirsty maniacs intent on killing everyone around them, so that he and a bunker-full of artistocratic types can inherit the Earth.

Early on in the film, before we know what exactly is afoot, Valentine is seen pitching his diabolical plan to world leaders he hopes to bring into his fold; this includes a quick shot of him shaking hands with a man at the White House who, though we only see him from the back, is clearly meant to be President Barack Obama.

Later on in the film, once Eggsy is able to foil the plot and overcome Valentine, we watch as his contingent of conspirators’ heads explode into colorful, gooey messes. We even watch as the Obama-esque leader’s head explodes. (Again, the character is never explicitly referred to as Obama in the film, but the resemblance is obvious.)' (yahoo movie plot summary)

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TheEconomist 2015 Prediction Cover: Obama has a ghost appearing from his leg reading a vacation brochure.

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2013 Time Magazine, Person of the Year Obama - Its all in grey and he looks dreary.

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brb...someone is at the door...one sec.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:38 | 5781409 new game
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right after "domestic sniper". thanks i have an interest in that cia type high adventure, get behind enemy line type of stuff. the enemy within. infiltrate and snuff...

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:28 | 5780990 ukspreads
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Too many people on this site have their own opinions :)

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:34 | 5781030 maskone909
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they already have all the neccessary data to determine what positions you are long and short, and your stops.  the remaining hedge fund guys and freelance traders will get wiped out sooner or later.  they are probably the last remaining bunch who possess any sort of independent thought or ability to see between the lines and have the funds to get the ball rolling.  maybe at that point there might be a turning. 

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:34 | 5781031 duo
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The next Andorid force-update will make it impossibe to turn off the GPS and location sharing.  You watch.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:23 | 5781323 glenlloyd
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Wouldn't doubt it one bit....

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:41 | 5781426 new game
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don't submit, refuse the matrix-hello come to my place and you can drop your drawers and bend right on over, the king has spoken...

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 14:28 | 5781652 Ignatius
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Thanks for this!  My new pick-up line....

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 17:43 | 5782658 Fun Facts
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rooted android 4.2 4 ever

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:38 | 5781054 Miffed Microbio...
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It's happening even in my field.

Public Health now mandates I must send them specimens from patients that have Influenza A or B that have been in ICU, ever been in a nursing home, are pregnant or have died. These specimens are being subtyped and data sent to the State. Why do this? It is an incredible amount of money they are spending for what purpose? My life is now more to do with government paperwork for compliance rather than testing.

All positive flu patients must be reported to public health and the list of organisms for required reporting gets longer every year. It's either lunacy or something duplicitous.

Miffed

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:43 | 5781088 dogbreath
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genetics............patents................life...............profit

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:46 | 5781115 Miffed Microbio...
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I thought it was

Steal underwear............?????................ Profits!!

God, I'm so clueless and confused.

Miffed;-)

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:06 | 5781231 Took Red Pill
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Maybe it's for this; The US is building a DNA database;

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/united-states-building-massive...

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:15 | 5781273 maskone909
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dude maybe im paranoid but, well ok i am paranoid..  iphone uses your fingerprints.  combine that with face recognition, and sites like ancestry dot com soliciting your dna.  the writting is on the wall

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:42 | 5781435 new game
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no, you just don't like what is inside the matrix. sure sign of a higher order of intelligence.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:46 | 5781448 new game
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mifed, we are all seeing this altas shrugged stuff. we are all complying because we need that income stream. they know that and got us by the short hairs. until we are self reliant entirely we are all being sucked into this matrix thingy. i have no easy answers cept to get wealthy enuf to say fuck you, no thanks i got my own idea of a better world...

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:45 | 5781107 Kolchak
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say it aint so Miffed, say it aint so damn it!!!!!!!!!

 

i suppose i am officially out of the health care system, i will not go back to any dentist, doctor, nor any other health related establishment, i would rather just die.

 

perhaps we can get some kind of aggreement drawn up, see if we can get the docs to sign a non discloser form at least then we can sue every one of them and then they will just pack it in already, really send DC a message, like fug you and the non health care system you have created.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:33 | 5781380 Manthong
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It’s way more F’d than you could ever dream it would be.

Here’s another data program that you are already in which is a big part of the NWO.

ICD-10 - Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services

All those questions you are asked at the doctor’s office.. here is where they go.

You have likely already been digitized.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:48 | 5781134 TBT or not TBT
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Does this go to the CDC, or some HHS department?

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:53 | 5781159 Miffed Microbio...
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It will go to the CDC eventually is my guess. I report to local public health, not directly to CDC. I'm assuming they would be only interested in trending vs raw data.

I'm just a little drone ant doing their low level requirements for data collection.

Miffed

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:05 | 5781224 maskone909
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i work with biopharmacuiticals (DMARDS) so many treatments that effect you dna its scary.  we are going to breed mutants for real.  pretty soon the movie GATTACA will be real

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:29 | 5781357 NotApplicable
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"Yours is not to wonder why, yours is but to mutate or die." -- Some geneticist, probably

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 19:57 | 5782659 Parrotile
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> I'm just a little drone ant doing their low level requirements for data collection.

Here "Down Under" we installed the Cerner Millennium EMR system a few years back. The initial version simply provided a more convenient "one stop shop" link to Pathology / Imaging / basic (current presentation) medical information. So far so good, and originally there was no intention to replace the usual paper notes system (since the tech was really not that good / available).

Fast forward a few years (and a few major updates), and we now have fully scanned paper records (with a proposal or OCR at some stage - not with my writing :-) ), real-time links to the Pharmacy systems (for in-hospital dispensing histories), links to the GP Systems (Medical Director), and in due course links to the .gov PBS system (for confirmation of dispensing histories in the Community). ED / CCU / ICU have gone "all-paperless", with all other Wards / Specialities to follow suit by 2020 (including OP / Outreach services such as Physio / Social Work / Occ. Therapy).

With a Hospital-wide wireless LAN system, the next stage is to roll out "an App. for that" - initially for those using the Apple OS, with the more popular Android OS coming hot on its heels. Then? ANYONE with network permissions (legit or "acquired") can log on to EMR and access whatever data they need.

OK, so "your" personal device will have to be running an "approved" security system (e.g. Trend - the one the Hospital uses, and the one they have cut a good deal with for staff), BUT for a password-based system, anyone with the incentive to pry could eventually get "in", and it is just a breach waiting to happen.

Me? I'll certainly use the system. Insufficient p.c. desktop availability, and in Ward Offices or on walls, rather than in Patient rooms. A fully mobile system will make Patient care much easier / faster, and since I'll be able to access all the Patient Info. literature, I can share this with the Patient at the bedside, so we can have "a meaningful conversation".

Will our already deadly-slow (local AND State) IT infrastructure cope with this? I very much doubt it, so I might be doing my little bit to "crash the system!" Watch this space . . . . :-)

 

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:55 | 5781176 dogbreath
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It doesn't matter.  humans are the perfect genetic laboratory.  they are looking for new genetic mutations and we volountarily provide the sample  so they can patent it.    

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:42 | 5781434 Miffed Microbio...
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The most egregious story of this was the discovery of HeLa cells. Foundational for research today. Google Henrietta Lacks for a good shot red hot anger.

Miffed;-)

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 14:13 | 5781586 maskone909
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heLa cells...

 

we are headed towards altering our genome inevetably.  the only good i can think of would be to use heLa cells for some sort of prophylactic treatment to prevent cancers from exposure to fukashima like events.  or perhapse long duration space flight(exposure to radiation).  but of course that will be the MSM narrative and the psychopaths in charge will make sure to wipe us out at their first chance.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:31 | 5781369 WillyGroper
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DNA gathering, vaccine & chemtrail tweaking.

 

Bastids.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 14:20 | 5781624 Boondocker
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They are looking  for the perfect strain....easier to let nature to experiment than do it in the lab?

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 18:46 | 5782862 lex nulla
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Influenza A or B that have been in ICU, ever been in a nursing home, are pregnant or have died... the list of organisms for required reporting gets longer every year

Hm. Could it be they are looking for specific pathogens that have been released in particular environs or to particular demographics ti verify the effectivity of various programs?

The state here requires that you deliver to them certain bits of game animals taken - among them are the female reproductive organs of deer and bear.  This coupled with a tooth and some story about fluoride baits makes me wonder if they aren't using some fertility suppressants, or something.  I made a halfhearted attempt to find out why the uteruses, but didn't get very far.

As you express, something seems to be up.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:27 | 5780982 Haus-Targaryen
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So glad I left the USA.  

ZH'ers look at the "Press Freedom" map in the other thread.  

Step 1: Find countries that are white.
Step 2: Of those countries - find the "wealthy" nations
Step 3: Of those countries find the "power players" e.g., those that have the ability to do something else if they wanted/had to
Step 4: Find a cheap place there for you and your family.  

You can all think I'm batshit crazy, but the move to Germany was the best decision of my life.  I hope the Tylers are planning German mirrors when the Feds do eventually pull ZH down.  

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:31 | 5781014 saveandsound
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Germany and Switzerland.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:36 | 5781039 noben
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And Austria.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:41 | 5781068 Haus-Targaryen
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Austria *still* *to this day* doesn't do anything big without the OK from Berlin. 

Austria is ok, but its not cheap -- the former DDR has some of the best deals, re; real estate in the western world.  

Any prepper who thinks hiding in a log cabin in the middle of fucking nowhere is the correct long play is a moron.  Plain and simple.  We humans are social creatures, and you cannot live forever with no one other than your famile before you start eyeing your daughters.  Not for me.  No thanks.  

Get yourself a nice place in Germany, and when shit goes down, your "bug out" should be a way to get to Germany as a long-term solution moreso than living in the woods.  

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:45 | 5781109 dogbreath
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...........before you start smelling your daughters.................  

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:30 | 5781361 cheech_wizard
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Lest we forget history... no, Germany might not be the place to be.

During the Cold War the Fulda Gap was one of two obvious routes for a hypothetical Soviet tank attack upon West Germany fromEastern Europe, especially East Germany; the other route was the North German Plain (a third, less likely, route was up through the Danube River valley in Austria). The concept of a major tank battle along the Fulda Gap was a predominant element of North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) war planning during the Cold War, and weapons such as nuclear tube and missile artillery, the nuclear recoilless gun/tactical launcher Davy CrockettSpecial Atomic Demolition Munitions, the AH-64 Apache attack helicopter, and A-10 ground attack aircraft were developed with such an eventuality in mind.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:34 | 5781388 dogbreath
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Russia is recovering from 80 years of marxism.  What makes you think they would want to become responsible for western Europe that is infested with them.  uglier women too.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:50 | 5781468 new game
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moving to a bullseye is not a good plan. try costa rica, maybe, how about chile? new zealand?...

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 14:20 | 5781621 Haus-Targaryen
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Essentially this.  

One thing WWII & Cold War taught the world is two fold;

1) Russia can never and will never take, hold and control Western Europe.  

2) Western Europe and her allies can never, and will never take, hold and control Russia.  

Thus there has to be a buffer zone somewhever between "the West" and "the East."

If Germany sits this out, no one wants to to destroy the Germans.  Most Germans just want to sit back, drink excessivly, watch Bundesliga and Urlaub.  

I imagine that Germans will be one of the best places to "restart" life in the upcoming reset.  Perhaps Switzerland would be better.  Germany has lots of peer nations in this group, and they just so happen to be "white" in the press freedom map.  

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 14:48 | 5781721 Overfed
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For me, it's a toss up between Uruguay and Czech Republic. Uruguay is isolated, primarily Euro descended, and I speak a whole lot more Spanish than Czech. However, my skill sets would probably be more conducive to making a living in Europe than SA, and there are probably more English speakers in Czech than in Uruguay.

Of course, I'm too freakin' poor to get out of the pig  trap that is the USA. :-(

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 14:50 | 5781775 Haus-Targaryen
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Try and get somethign close to the German AND Polish border.  Old, established, and if shit goes south -- you have two potential exit points. 

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 15:09 | 5781873 g speed
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Ya but  -- the US has lots of water, land, wood, and used machinery and good growing season- It also has shitty beer and lousy cars with bad roads to drive on --and a less than free political structure. But guns?? it has a lot of--  and I bet the US has a higher proportion of dissenters than any country on earth. All and all you pick your druthers.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:39 | 5781044 Bioscale
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Rather Austria, you might spend all your cash in Switzerland very quickly, it's pretty expensive.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:37 | 5781048 Bioscale
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Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:39 | 5781059 giovanni_f
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In Germany you will receive even food stamps. A european court recently ruled that after one year living in Germany any person can apply for social support. They will pay the rent and some 500 US$ per month, few strings attached.

Enjoy your free lunch.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:42 | 5781074 Haus-Targaryen
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When the EUR rips itself apart -- I fully expect this insanity to stop -- and quickly. 

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:35 | 5781027 Philo Beddoe
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Only ZHers listen to the ZH mantras. Spreading the ZH gospel is harder than being a Mormon missionary at the Vatican.  Shutting ZH down would just piss us off and not stop any type of education effort.  Yeah, they proably would shut down ZH just because they could. 

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:38 | 5781055 Haus-Targaryen
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Here is the thing --- how many people have you told about what is going on -- just for them to look at you like you're fucked in the head? 

So when shit DOES hit the fan, who will be the first person they call?  

Prepare your advice accordingly.  My advice will be, "its time to leave the United States -- at least for the tiem being."  

Those who look at me with crazy eyes again will get fed through the wood chipper, those who heed my advice will probably survive, and come out the other side pretty ok.

I am quite sure the Germans aren't part of this death-cult the Anglo-American empire seems to be obsessed with.   

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:43 | 5781090 Philo Beddoe
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I am half German and half Irish. I drink to forget all of my amibitious ideals. 

No shit, Haus, I gave up trying to help people out awhile back. I got sick of the stupid stares and retarded questions. 

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:45 | 5781108 Haus-Targaryen
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We are quite similar.  I am half Prussian half mixed-Anglo.  

That being said -- maybe I'm still naive, but I still try and steer people in the correct direction.  I am just not starting to get people to hold cash in Serta Bank as opposed to BoA.  A huge step in the right direction.  

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:56 | 5781496 new game
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here is the list:

guns replace brains

gold replaces brains

internet blather replaces brains and common sense

you are not smarter than you think, no mater how much you say.

realize all thing will pass

assuming your fiends family will stand sholder to sholder- you are on your own bitchez

not realizing everyone lies

not realizing you are not safer with backload of burdens

not learning how to be a scared monkey

AND strategy is everything.

ps.don't forget lady luck, ha...

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:47 | 5781129 QQQBall
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Thanks for the Germany plug. My son studied in Berlin and the r.e. looks reasonable. My daughter lives in London, which is insane. I am checking out Brittany in a couple of months. The real estate looks so reasonable there I am looking for a "catch."  Iwatch Nordic Noir DVDs and one thing is how beautiful and clean verything is...

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:57 | 5781183 Haus-Targaryen
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I wouldn't go near France with a 10' pole.  When they run out of money, who better to nail with the costs than "rich foreigners who own vacation homes in France"  

You can see how this would end poorly for you given the French's socialist ways.  

Can I recommend;

 

http://www.immobilienscout24.de/expose/78455355?referrer=RESULT_LIST_LIS...

Berlin suburb -- 3 bedrooms with "finished" basement and a garage, for less than $150k on ,25 acre.  

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 14:46 | 5781746 mtl4
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France is socailism (ie massive taxation) at it's best......go there if you are rich and want to paint a nice giant target on your back.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:01 | 5781199 schadenfreude
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First the muslims and now desperate americans that invade my beloved country 

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 14:03 | 5781534 new game
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enemy within. now what?

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 15:42 | 5782060 schadenfreude
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Surrender? Oh wait this role is occupied for France

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 14:25 | 5781631 Haus-Targaryen
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Selber Schuld.  

If you guys decided to to have more kids instead of making it taboo to have kids before 30 -- perhaps you wouldn't have this problem.  The next question is -- would you rather have an invasion of North Africans and Turks coming into Germany, or people of German descent from the US, Canada & Argentia coming "home" to fix the demographic hole, as apparently Germans have children like Panda-bears; slowly if at all & few in number.  

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 15:35 | 5782022 schadenfreude
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Considering the alternatives..... I take a Prussian descendant over anything else.

I took my share with regards to children, so I can't be blamed. Hope you feel well and that you are well connected within your community. Because this is what's important when SHTF.

 

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 17:00 | 5782434 Haus-Targaryen
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My girlfriends family -- her dad stemming from Oberschlesien and her mom stemming from Ost-Preußen, just East of Königsberg -- they are a family of preppers -- they just don't know it.  

They own a vacation house in Meck-Po on an estuary.  They have 4 boats, enough firefood for years (literally), they have outhouses, the house is completely off the grid electrically, and they always get €€€ back from the Bund for paying into the grid.  The village is so small -- it doesn't show up on Google Earth unless you zoom in all the way, and no fucking chance its on a map.  

Her mom finds it "fun" to can and preserve everything she touches, her dad likes to find new liquids to put in his diesel BMW to make it go without having to tank it.  

The village has less than 100 people in it, and they know *ALL OF THEM* including being best friends with the local "handy-man."  I have "married into" a fully prepped family in Germany.  

That being said -- it would behoove Germany to get out ahead of their demographic collapse, and attempt to get people into Germany who share their values, thus preserving the language and culture, as opposed to getting shitheads form the 3rd world who would love to form a German Caliphate.  

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 18:41 | 5782845 Buckaroo Banzai
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Interesting idea, Haus. I have always like German girls!

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 12:52 | 5784356 schadenfreude
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I agree with you. But it's against Grundgesetz to differentiate immigrants based on religions.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 18:22 | 5782785 SofaPapa
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"Here is the thing --- how many people have you told about what is going on -- just for them to look at you like you're fucked in the head?"

The key is how you present the information, and how much information you give.  If you hit them with all at once, they will give you the stare you mention and shut you out.  BUT I have found that even with those I disagree with most, when I stick to a couple of simple points near the edge and easily explained, people are very receptive.  Everyone knows there is rot.  It's just a matter of giving them a path that makes sense to them rather than burdening them with a complete in-your-face 180 turn from where they happen to start from.  Start them gently, and they will often follow the path themselves, without sensing it as pressure from you that initiated the move.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:46 | 5781073 BLOTTO
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If they shut the internet down - we go running into the forest and meet by the giant red oak.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 14:01 | 5781521 new game
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i luv the red oak. especially the rot hole about waist high...

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:59 | 5781029 giovanni_f
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"They" hate us for our freedom-n-democracy. "They" will hate us less now. Positive.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:35 | 5781038 JohnFrodo
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Your close but the cigar is in Austria

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:43 | 5781083 Haus-Targaryen
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I'd love to hear your reasoning. 

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:40 | 5781065 Syrin
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Germany won't be so nice when ISIS stirs up the enormous number of jihadists there or when the Russian nukes are flying overhead.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:43 | 5781091 Haus-Targaryen
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"They" are still less than 2% of the population.  

I'd much rather take neutral Germany that anyone in the USSA where there are 50,000,000 people who just had their food stamps cut off.  

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:53 | 5781158 TBT or not TBT
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And you only have 500 hollow points.   

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:32 | 5781355 sessinpo
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Haus Targaryen said: "neutral Germany"

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LOL. That's the best one I;ve heard in a long time. Nothing is neutral, not even a pacifist.

We all talk about when the USSA collapsed and the freebies are cut off. The EuroState is no different unless you fool yourself into thinking so. Thus, all nation states will participtate in WWIII.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 14:08 | 5781559 Haus-Targaryen
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Here is where you are wrong -- 

Germany has had 5 currencies in the past 100 years.  3 of these currencies were brought about because the previous one was wiped out for various reasons, hyperinflation, war and war again.

None of these times did the new currency result in chaos the next day.  (Carpet bombing of cities did though).  

If the EUR was to get wiped out, the Germans would wake up, be super pissed, write some very strongly worded letters and continue on.  I imagine the US would be chaos. 

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:41 | 5781069 noben
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During the days of Pierre Trudeau and De Gaulle, Canada and France would tell the US and its bankers to "f-off" regularly, in code.

Those two guys had BALLS. All politicians since then have chicken balls. Kung Pao style.

Of course JFK also started to reign in the Fed banksters, so he "had to go".

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Trudeau
** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_de_Gaulle

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:44 | 5781097 Haus-Targaryen
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I <3 de Gaulle 

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:51 | 5781148 Farmer Joe in B...
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While I agree with your general sentiment, Germany is too much in the belly of the beast. 

The ONE good thing the US still has going for it is their geographic isolation. 

LatAm countries like Costa Rica and Panama are good, fairly stable places to live in peace and be generally left the fuck alone by .gov.  Plus, you have great growing weather year-round for food and pasturing animals...!!

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:00 | 5781195 Haus-Targaryen
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I disagree -- and so does the man who wrote Strategic Relocation.  

These latin American countries -- their people and respective governments will smile and pour you another Marghertia as long as you can pay.  When this whole thing does burn to the ground -- and your money runs out -- they would have no problem takign everything you own, and either 1) killing you 2) throwing you in prision 3) sending you back to the US with zilch.  

You need a country that respects the ROL.  I wish I could get into Switzerland, but they are super picky with who they let in.  There was a whole trains of shithead hippies from Italy who tried to get N. Africans political aslyum in Switzerland.  Of  the hundresd on the train -- only 1 was allowed to stay for further review, and he was eventually deported.  

Germany is a safe alternative.  

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 14:36 | 5781688 Took Red Pill
Fri, 02/13/2015 - 14:42 | 5781723 Haus-Targaryen
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Yeup.  So?  

 

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 15:26 | 5781971 Two Theives and...
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Not entirely true. Joel Skousen's Strategic Relocation (real eye openeing book!) mentions Chile as a "good" LatAM country for ExPats. Lucky me...my GF has family there!

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 15:50 | 5782113 schadenfreude
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Dont't know why everyone wants to live in Switzerland. Japanese are xenophob but Swiss comes close behind.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 18:22 | 5782790 Parrotile
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You want "Geographic isolation"?? Try Western Australia (inland, not coastal). http://www.whereis.com/wa

Those "little grey lines", dead straight for HUNDREDS of kms, are single-track roads. VERY occasionally you'll find the odd house or two, maybe tiny settlements of 50 - 100 houses.

This is the thing about Australia. we really ARE the least-populated Continent after Antarctica, and don't let the hustle and bustle of the "Coastal Strip" fool you - once you leave the major Metropolitan areas, it really IS "empty as" (to use an Aussie phrase!)

We have driven the Nullabor route (A1 / N1 Eyre Highway) with visiting friends / relatives many times, and it never ceases to amaze them (and us) as to just how "empty" the road is, on THE Aussie MAJOR "ring-road" highway. Once you leave Ceduna (going west), that really IS "it" Until you reach Norseman in WA. "Well, look at the map - Eucla is on it (so it must be big)" - really?? 15 homes last time I checked "big" . . . . . The Ceduna - Noreseman "leg" is almost exactly 1200km (750 miles), and that's only the "desert" part of the Great South Highway - there still another 720km (450 miles) before you reach Perth!!

So, there's your "isolation". "Fairly civilised" Norseman / Ceduna, "fairly remote but very accessible" Eucla, or just head north off the highway for as many km as you like for complete isolation - if you head North from Eucla, you will not see another MAJOR Highway for 2000km (1250 miles), until you hit the northern section of the N1 (now called the Victoria Highway), just East of Kununurra, at the top of the Northern Territory.

"Happy camping!" :-)

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:04 | 5781220 Urban Redneck
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This doesn't stop until the American people wage a war (figurative, and if need be literal) against the US Government.  Or until the powers that the US Government is currently waging war against defeat it (in which case the "value" of an 'Murican wage slave will beven lower than that of Foxcon wage slave).

Unfortunately, only in 21st century USSA are the rats dumb enough to race to get onboard the Titanic as it sinks - so they can go down with the ship.  Devolution at its finest.  

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:05 | 5781226 WhyWait
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Ground Zero if the US gets its war on Russia! Lots of Luck

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:08 | 5781240 Haus-Targaryen
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Thanks.

Northing would cause a revolution in Germany quicker than going toe to toe with the Russians again.

The Germans remember what happened last time and would much prefer to not commit national suicide again.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:28 | 5781232 Money Boo Boo
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Alberta

 

Europe is pretty crowded. When the exits get jammed up the rest of us in Alta will have time and room to decide our course of action

 

just sayin

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 14:49 | 5781660 mtl4
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So is Canada a great place to relocate to also because we have plentiful beaver?

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 15:05 | 5781848 Haus-Targaryen
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Define "beaver" 

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:28 | 5780995 PartysOver
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At this point your options are very limitted if you desire to remain in USSA.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 17:26 | 5782563 Fun Facts
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What's sort of funny or maybe even sad are the millions of people who have no problem with their Samsung television recording and transcribing into text every word spoken in their living room, then available in perpetuity on a server somewhere, for sale to anyone who wants to read it or database that wants to search it.

WTF man?

The people are just getting what they deserve which is whatever they will put up with.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:21 | 5780943 slaughterer
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Doing as much damage as he can in his last 2 years, to satisfy his oligarch masters.  What a Nero-esque narcissistic douche.  

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:03 | 5781214 TBT or not TBT
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Half agree, but the guide he's following is Alinsky, with a sick mix of Jeremiah Wright, faculty lounge pinko theory, race centric street agitation,  third world anti colonial anger, and of course, narcissism.   The oligarchs of this world are not a United front, and those of them who supported Obama are deluded about who he is.   He's really bringing Cloward and Piven with his message of Hope and Change.   He hates the west, and the anglosphere most of all.   He is bringing it down as fast as can get away with it.   

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:54 | 5781488 Tom Terrific
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He is what used to be called a "house nigger."

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 14:03 | 5781536 Emergency Ward
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He idolizes the worst of the dead white European male totalitarians and seeks to emulate them.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:37 | 5781049 williambanzai7
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Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:37 | 5781050 fascismlover
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It probably ends with all of us slaves building another set of pyramids by whip...the old ones are in shabby repair.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:50 | 5781146 Anusocracy
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Thanks to progress, they will be built on Mars.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 06:28 | 5783850 Cadavre
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It probably ends with all of us slaves building another set of pyramids by whip...the old ones are in shabby repair.

 

Hate to rain on Cecil De Mills "The Ten Commandments" selfy fest. Slaves did not build the pyramids, free Egyptian masons and craftsmen built the pyramids. That "slave" balony is an overplay by self anoints in the "gods only chosen people" crowd. The great exodus from the heathen bondage dudes, etc etc. Moses was not white, he was Ethiopian. And Egyptians didn't look like baldy in "West World" Brynner. If ya take a good look at Tut's mask for transiting Styx, he looks more like Tiger Woods. That's because Egyptians back in the daze, were North Africans, not north Americans. So were Hebrews. Moses was Ethiopian.

The reason we have self claiming whities as the children of Abraham, an Iraqi, was because in 794, an eastern European cult that still has no regards for nations or their laws, the Ashkenazi, told the the young Islamists that almost captured all the known world, they were Jews and not the godless white eastern europeans they were the day before. Islam considered Jews their brethren. The Quaran is a close paraphrase of the Torah.

Slaves did not build the Pyramids. Slaves don't have the ambition or will for achievement like that. I know - every Easter Sunday since you were old enough to go to the crapper by yourself was spent watching De Mills faux rendering of historical facts. Toss that shit. We did did not have white Israelites until the Declaration of Balfour was agreed to by WZO shadow bankers and the UK's home office in 1913

Don't wanna be the one to pop your cherry. Slaves did not build the pyramids. Free Egyptian craftsmen did.

Sun, 02/15/2015 - 17:23 | 5787853 Anusocracy
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So how did the pharaohs pay the workers? The same way all governments do.

By stealing from political slaves.

Sun, 02/15/2015 - 17:49 | 5787929 Cadavre
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Beer, onions, housing and bread with a few omans on the side. When a culture achieves something like the pyramids, going to the moon, mars, the stars, it ain't bling that gets it done - it's humanities deepest desire. The need to understand the world.

Sun, 02/15/2015 - 20:37 | 5788372 Anusocracy
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Like I said, all stolen by the rulers.

Mon, 02/16/2015 - 05:03 | 5789265 Cadavre
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Public servants employed by the commons of America are not "rulers", they're "employees". By law, we, you, me, the guy with fat dog down the street, are the "rulers". Don't think the founding contract assigns an American president as the ruler of America or Americans.  The president is our employee. We hire presidents to push a pencils and wisely use our authorizations. 

Wed, 02/18/2015 - 19:31 | 5801236 Anusocracy
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You are insane, stupid, or silly.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:55 | 5781150 Everybodys All ...
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They are looking to find out who will cooperate and who will not. Obama bringing tyranny to a whole new level. I remember those Hitler/Obama side by side photos and think no way. Not anymore.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:09 | 5781244 Groundhog Day
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why don't we just invite the nsa into our homes.  i have some toilet bowls that need cleaning

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:24 | 5781327 Larry Dallas
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#ThankAVet

/sarc

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 15:01 | 5781830 sgt_doom
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Fantastic article --- a BFT to this site, once again!

But wait, does it really matter about Google, since aren't they originally a joint CIA-NSA-DIA operation from the get-go?

Part 1:

https://medium.com/@NafeezAhmed/how-the-cia-made-google-e836451a959e 

 

Part 2:

https://medium.com/@NafeezAhmed/why-google-made-the-nsa-2a80584c9c1

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:19 | 5780929 Bumbu Sauce
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Patriot Act 2? Obama Executive Order Will Promote Sharing Of Confidential Information With Corporations

Wait, isn't that the point of Obamacare?  He is just being redundant at this point.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:23 | 5780959 SHEEPFUKKER
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Sharing is caring bitchez

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:27 | 5780989 pods
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I thought it was snitches get stitches, bitchez?

pods

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:07 | 5781239 Money Boo Boo
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Live Less and Don't Prosper

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:58 | 5781508 Emergency Ward
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Now it's spy on your neighbor and anonymously report him even if he isn't doing anything.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 15:10 | 5781878 new game
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can't be as they came for my neighbor and now he is gone. am i next?

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 19:37 | 5782477 Tom Terrific
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Except when they find you doing it by torrents.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:25 | 5780973 Arnold
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Quid pro quo.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:29 | 5780999 More_sellers_th...
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If our founding fathers could have seen this coming, they would have just kissed the ring and paid the taxes.  Why bother

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:31 | 5781368 NotApplicable
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Nah, they're just ensuring there's no loose ends across various systems.

Legalized hacking for them. Total surveillance for us.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:21 | 5780939 Catullus
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Perverts.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:21 | 5780945 p00k1e
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LOL

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:22 | 5780949 kowalli
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freedom is slavery Orwell 1984

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:22 | 5780951 Kolchak
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so they're just making it official then. not news at all.....

 

seems their MO though, test toxins on us and then officially release them under another name. spy on us then release it under another name, officially of course. yawns......................

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 13:38 | 5781406 Max Cynical
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Why sign an executive order when we all know they're already doing it? He's just slapping us in the face.

Nothing will stop this gov from doing whatever the fuck they please.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:23 | 5780957 dexter_morgan
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Unfuckingbelievable.

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:24 | 5780960 Usurious
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start sending your stool sample to Monsanto........... you know its coming..........mandated GMO food consumption

Fri, 02/13/2015 - 12:26 | 5780978 Bumbu Sauce
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I hope so.  At tleast that food has been tested unlike anything with a stupid "organic" label on it...whatever the fuck that means.

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