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Reasons To Believe Are Wearing Thin: The Benefit Of The Doubt Is Cracking

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Submitted by Paul Rosenberg via Casey Research,

Those of us who pursue positive change are very often frustrated. We see the necessity of change all too clearly, and we can explain how it should come about, but it never seems to happen. It’s a discouraging situation.

The truth, however, is that change does come; it just comes more slowly than we’d like, and in ways that differ from those we imagined.

One real change I like to point out is the passing of blind trust in politicians. In the 1950s and ‘60s, most people spoke of politicians with respect and even with reverence. Now it’s almost standard for people to agree that they’re liars and thieves. That’s a very significant change, even if it did take several decades to unfold.

I’ve tested this change, by the way, on taxi drivers worldwide; I’ve yet to find one that defended politicians to me.

So, a significant change has occurred in our time, and over a very broad base.

Still, most people are hanging on, and often desperately, to old ways that should really be abandoned.

The Automatic Benefit of the Doubt

It’s a bit troubling to see how blindly, and for how long, people give the benefit of the doubt to hierarchy and its operators. They can know that a system is abusing them, and they can complain about it at length, but still they grasp at reasons to keep believing in it.

Here’s what I mean:

  • During the bad spots of the Middle Ages, people would be abused by clergymen but say, “If only His Holiness knew!”
  • During the reign of the USSR, people in the Gulag would often say, “If only Stalin knew!”
  • In our time, people hold Political Party A or Political Party B as grave evils, while pretending that the combination of A + B is good and noble.

Still, such blind biases do eventually break. Stalin, after all, is gone, along with his USSR. The Protestant reformation broke the domination of the Church. And our modern delusion that groups of thieves acting together work righteously will die too.

And today I’m pleased to tell you that the political idolatry of our time—giving every benefit of the doubt to the same people we condemn as liars—is cracking.

“Still, I look to Find a Reason to Believe”

If there were such a competition, I’d nominate Rod Stewart’s song, Reason To Believe, as the Anthem of the Age.

Regardless of how badly they are abused, people have a very hard time letting go of their hierarchies; they’ve taken emotional refuge in them, after all.

Even when sharp pain forces them to examine hierarchy, the impulse to maintain belief erupts. Here’s how the song expresses it:

If I listened long enough to you,
I’d find a way to believe that it’s all true.
Knowing that you lied,
straight-faced while I cried.
Still I look to find a reason to believe.

Humans have a real problem with that last line: looking for reasons to believe. It flies in the face of both logic and honesty, but people both do it and defend it.

As for specific reasons to believe, they’re endless. Seldom are humans quicker and cleverer than when justifying their previous actions.

Why This Is a Good Sign

When people are grabbing at reasons to believe, it’s a sure sign that the benefit of the doubt is cracking beneath them. Otherwise, why would they have to fight so hard?

It also happens that the circumstances of our modern world are propelling people toward this break:

  • Every time they see cops beating the hell out of people, belief in the system cracks a little more, followed by a scramble for reasons to believe.
  • Every time an esteemed figure gets caught abusing children or making up whopper lies or (fill in the blank), the image of hierarchy’s inherent virtue cracks a little wider, followed by people grasping at reasons to believe.
  • Every time an eight-year-old is handcuffed for kissing another little kid at school or running a lemonade stand or (again, fill in the blank), blind faith cracks a little more, followed by another scramble for reasons to believe.
  • And so on, on a daily basis.

More and more of us are conceding that it’s not just “one bad actor” here or there, but that Joe Stalin’s system really is evil, that the clergy really is corrupt, and that hierarchies suck by design.

Reasons to believe are wearing thin these days. Little by little, humanity’s blind devotion to authority is cracking. Someday, it will break apart.

May that day come soon.

 

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Sat, 02/14/2015 - 13:33 | 5784433 zorba THE GREEK
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Very attractive sheep. oops

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 13:47 | 5784470 THX 1178
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Brian Williams taught us one very important lesson: The suit and tie wearers at the top of the hierarchy are decieving us with charisma and theatrics. They are pathological liars and should be treated as such.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 13:53 | 5784481 Future Jim
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True.

Based on their actions, the goal is a global police state with one religion, one currency, and no effective critics. For some reason they seem to think that the American people are the last thing standing in their way because we are the last armed citizenry on earth. They see everyone else as sufficiently neutralized and in a holding pattern until Americans have been equally neutralized so that their global plans can move forward safely.

Once one understands this much, everything else makes sense. For example, they need to provoke Americans to start shooting at the government or at each other to justify more police state and disarmament.

Americans don't know their government, media, universities, big corporations, big churches, big health care, and banking are controlled by the NWO, and apparently not all ZHers know that. Instead of hating on Americans, everyone should try to understand how pretty much no one could overcome that kind of mind fuck. It explains what is wrong with the people - everywhere.

One thing that tends to wake people up is the 911 Smoking Gun - WTC7.

Collectivism, democracy and rule of law have failed. We are now devolving back to the rule of man. The only "glory" possible is not the failed, flawed fatal policies of the past expoused in this article. The only glorious way forward is the Rule of Market.

There was also a lot more trust in government back then, no internet, and no sniper kills at 2000 yards. Also, they did not do a mass depopulation back then. People might get a little more angry about something like that, and the internet might make it a little harder for them to control the narrative this time.

Whether or not an armed American citizenry would actually make much difference, they are obviously taking actions that indicate they are very concerned about any kind of resistance from the American people. For example, they target small farms, preppers, gun owners, etc. They are obviously perpetrating false flag shootings and trying to provoke armed conflict to justify even more of a police state and disarmament. They are obviously not taking such extreme measures in other countries because they are obviously not as afraid of those populations.

I can see why others, such as Brits, would claim that guns make no difference and that the NWO doesn't fear an armed citizenry. It would understandably be pretty embarrassing for Brits to admit that they have already been conquered and disarmed by the NWO. Out of such embarrassment, some Brits would thus side against the American people and thereby serve as useful idiots for the NWO.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 13:54 | 5784492 Arius
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Brian Williams fiasco doenst help either ... people feel more discouraged ... whom can one trust?

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 13:56 | 5784497 Future Jim
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Beware of NWO propaganda that sounds consistent with what we are saying. For example, "The fourth turning" promotes the idea that America's problems are inevitable, when in fact they are by design, and thus the fourth turning is wrong and could even be just more NWO propaganda. It promotes the perps as "neo-cons", but neocons are just Republican Progressives - just as all of the NWO can be described as progressives, and yet it does not in any way indict progressives - except for not believing enough in the fourth turning.

 

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 15:46 | 5784756 Anusocracy
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"Those of us who pursue positive change are very often frustrated."

And therein lies the problem. You're not going to change them anymore than they are going to change you. You are no more likely to change a government true believer than a religious true believer so the only sane thing to do is examine how religious freedom came about.

Clue: it did not involve forcing the others to accept what you believe.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 20:33 | 5785557 Anusocracy
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"For some reason they seem to think that the American people are the last thing standing in their way because we are the last armed citizenry on earth."

Hardly. The well-armed government lovers outnumber the well-armed freedom lovers by a very large margin. And that doesn't include the police and military.

They just are leery of the possible repercussions of a couple million freedom lovers being slaughtered in the Land of the Free. Sort of the empire builders have no clothes.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 14:19 | 5784555 fascismlover
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trust in yourself or make up a god and trust that

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 14:56 | 5784621 hairball48
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"Trust in God; all others pay  cash."

:)

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 17:30 | 5785012 Fun Facts
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Trust in god, but row away from the rocks.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 22:42 | 5785882 old naughty
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so many...which one?

The one who tells you murder, maime, or generally look down on your brothers...

or give up your first born?

 

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 16:13 | 5784828 Miffed Microbio...
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I think the answer is that the only thing you can truly believe in is yourself. Everything else is suspect. This does not mean cynicism, just healthy doubt with some skepticism. Sometimes belief outside of yourself is simply a way to deal with fear. Morphing yourself to fit into a religion so there is a sense of safety and belonging. You may have to sacrifice your authenticity to accomplish this which comes at a cost.

Fear comes from vulnerability, real or perceived. The courageous will face this. Others will run.

Miffed

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 19:45 | 5785428 Hobo Sapien
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I like that, Miffed. Very science in its ideal form, everything is tentative, awaiting further data. Makes me smile.

The author cites Rod Stewart; OK but I like a more Punk soundtrack; from the Buzzcocks:

In these times of contention, it's not my intention to make things plain
I'm looking through mirrors to catch the reflection that can't be mine
I'm losing control now, I'll just have to slow down a thought or two
I can't feel the future and I'm not even certain that there is a past

I believe in the worker's revolution
And I believe in the final solution
I believe in, I believe in
I believe in the shape of things to come
And I believe, I'm not the only one
Yes, I believe in, I believe in

When I poison my system, I take thoughts and twist them into shapes
I'm reachin' my nadir and I haven't an idea of what to do
I'm painting by numbers but can't find the colors that fill you in
I'm not even knowing if I'm coming or going, if to end or begin

I believe in the immaculate conception
And I believe in the resurrection
And I believe in, I believe in
I believe in the elixir of youth
And I believe in the absolute truth
Yes I believe in, I believe in

There is no love in this world anymore
There is no love in this world anymore

I've fallen from favor while tryin' to savor experience
I'm seein' things clearly but it has quite nearly blown my mind
It's the aim of existence to offer resistance to the flow of time
Everything is and that is why, it is will be the line

I believe in perpetual motion
And I believe in perfect devotion
I believe in, I believe in
I believe in the things I've never had
And I believe in my mum and my dad
And I believe in, I believe in

There is no love in this world anymore
There is no love in this world anymore

I'm skippin' the pages of a book that takes ages for the foreword to end
Triangular cover concealing another aspect from view
My relative motion is just an illusion from stopping too fast
The essence of being these feelings I'm feeling, I just want them to last

I believe in original sin
And I believe what I believe in
Yes I believe in, I believe in
I believe in the web of fate
And I believe, I'm goin' to be late
So I'll be leavin', what I believe in

There is no love in this world anymore
There is no love in this world anymore
There is no love in this world anymore
...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V8jbA1x-Cs
Sat, 02/14/2015 - 21:24 | 5785724 Milestones
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An old adage--when in doubt-Doubt.             Milestones

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 19:35 | 5785374 sonoftx
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Future Jim, very insightful. I'm a little slow, so, yes for me it was WTC7. Anyone who looks at it objectively can see the truth. The only problem is that if a person accepts the truth then they have to go deep down the rabbit hole and start questioning everything their govt tells them. It truly is a whole paradigm shift within the brain. Most people are too scared to attempt this. I have recently begun encouraging my family members to just google wtc7 and the architects and engineers for truth website hoping that they will come to see the truth. I am paraphrasing Mr Cog, but you can lead a horse to water but you can not make him drink.

Sun, 02/15/2015 - 04:18 | 5786312 SoDamnMad
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Future Jim   I buy 99.999% into your argument but you leave out the Islamization of the UK (Sweden, Germany, Denmark, etc) to which an opposed parellel universe of thought to the NWO is taking hold.  The immigrant popultions are going to grow and, if not take over government, are going to have a voting bloc that will crimp governing thought.  I'm not totally sure a false flag (would this be a shoot-up by something like the EDL on a mosque of the shoot-up of a synagoge by jihadists) would be the same as a Bundy Ranch shoot-out.

Sun, 02/15/2015 - 13:01 | 5786722 Future Jim
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Voting doesn't hurt the NWO as long as the voters are not libertarians, and the muslims are not libertarians; whereas, generating conflict always helps the NWO as long as the people don't blame the NWO.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 13:57 | 5784500 El Vaquero
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The follies of judging a person's truthfulness by the clothes they wear.  A suit neither makes one a liar nor an honest person, but a liar can put on a suit to make himself look more respectable.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 14:40 | 5784592 logicalman
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An arsehole in a fancy suit is still an arsehole - just wrapped up pretty.

 

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 16:04 | 5784809 THX 1178
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Yes, but i seems to me it has come to a point where the suit and tie functions primarily as a tool to put upward pressure on a person's marketplace value. At this point the majority of them are liars and incompetents, meaning to me that you would be statistically justified in not trusting a suit and tie wearer. 

Either way, the main problem we face in America is a cadre of suit and tie wearers. They all have suits and ties... that cant be coincidence can it?

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 15:30 | 5784707 European American
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"They are pathological liars and should be treated as such."

When we start executing them, all of them, for their crimes against humanity, then, "no doubt" we will start to see an "Automatic Benefit' as the illusion "breaks apart".

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 15:39 | 5784728 Arnold
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Glad you've come out of your coma.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 15:53 | 5784782 THX 1178
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That's awfully presumptuous of you isnt it? What makes you think i was in a coma at all? Maybe I was raised in an environment where skepticism of authority was par for the course...

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 16:31 | 5784854 Arnold
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Sorry, I always use myself as a good example of a bad example, no criticism intended.

Good to see you aware and forgive my occasional riffs off of well made points as well as my spears at not so well made points..

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 16:45 | 5784897 Redneck Hippy
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And Rosenberg is passing off Tim Hardin's lyrics as belonging to Rod Stewart, who only covered the song years later.

Tim Hardin drank himself to death.  Couldn't find enough reasons to believe.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 16:48 | 5784910 petkovplamen
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you are JUST learning that??? wow such total innocence...

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 17:04 | 5784943 THX 1178
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no

Sun, 02/15/2015 - 01:43 | 5786185 Al Tinfoil
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Brian Williams was a key part of the propaganda/entertainment parade that is the modern TV news.  He is/was one of the "talking head" presenters chosen for appearance and presentation skills, not for his knowledge, intelligence, or abilities at critical analysis.  

   He was hired to look good in front of a camera, and to present the story that was scripted for him.  He became the news, as much as the story that he presented - a typical talking head.  

The recent controversies arose, allegedly, because he wanted to become the story as well, so he aggrandized the situations he was in.  Or, so the story goes.

  I have to wonder, however, whether he was acting according to the script all along, and is now in trouble because the stories he told are now said to be false.  Is he being thrown under the bus to save the credibility of the network that wrote the scripts for him all along? 

 

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 14:07 | 5784526 Bloppy
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I'd like to think this is true, but when the next financial crisis causes meltdown, watch the media- they'll be imploring Americans to dutifuly pay their credit card bills to keep mega-banks afloat. It happened in 2008. Will a devastated middle class obey?

 

Copenhagen a small victory against Islamofascism:
http://tinyurl.com/lnv3ozu

 

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 15:52 | 5784779 doctor10
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Humans natively prefer networking as their fundamental mode of interaction. Even long ago Aristotle recognized this-in his Nochmachean Ethics he poses freindship as the anti-dote to tyranny

 

hierarchies are always a narcissistic power move-

Sun, 02/15/2015 - 10:28 | 5786613 resaci
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Reasons sheep believe - fading

Reasons sheep fear - increasing

 

Does it really matter? - the effect is the same!

Sun, 02/15/2015 - 12:26 | 5786875 Martian Moon
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Believing is much more productive than fearing- for the slave owners

Essentially it is what the banksters have been perfective over the last couple centuries

Now, with developments in Artificial Intelligence and Robotics, they literally just want most of us to simply die

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 13:40 | 5784454 drendebe10
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.... don't hold yor breath..... never underestimate the powerlessness of the sheeple nor the excessively vile sociopathic behavor of things like the liar in chief fudgepacker who want to siphon all the money away from the serfs and peasants to fund their power hungry celebity grand imperial golf lifestyles....... Behavior reflects personality....

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 13:38 | 5784443 Batman11
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It is time to look back fondly at the days of the self-sufficient Red Indian tribes before the white man arrived in the US.

 

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 13:43 | 5784464 El Vaquero
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Except that they tended to war against each other too.  White man just had better tools for it.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 13:44 | 5784465 Payne
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There was a lot of inter tribal warfare prior to White man arriving.  That was one of the reasons they could not put together a united front.  Too much hatred for too long.

Similar to Romans in Britain.  

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 14:13 | 5784540 sessinpo
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Very good.

It brings up a point I have made before. The natural state of man or any biological thing is war. A species purpose is to expand whether it is a bacteria or a a deer or an human. It isn't always about hatred but natural primal instincts.

The difference is that as humans we are supposedly intelligent enough to rise above those primal tendencies and get along. Well, we see in history, those primal instincts win again and again. It just isn't spoken of or understood as such.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 14:16 | 5784551 El Vaquero
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Even if a group is psychologically capable of rising above its primal tendencies, all that it takes for that group to not rise above them is to be attacked by another group. 

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 18:16 | 5785122 A Nanny Moose
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That's why there is the Right to Bear Arms.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 16:38 | 5784880 August
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>>>Similar to Romans in Britain.

By the time the Britons, the North American tribes, the Maori etc. etc. figure out what's going on, it's too late to defeat the "visitors" with force.  You just have to hunker down and try to wait them out, though it might take many generations....

The first thing you'll lose is control of the land; you can keep all your "opinions", at least for a while.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 16:55 | 5784928 Arnold
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Freedom of movement, the first thing you loose.

You present a thoughtful argument.

 

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 21:15 | 5785692 TheShadowKnows
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What was the Iroquois Confederacy if not a united front:

Deganawida~

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/profecias/esp_profecia01h2.htm#8.

Question: If the white man wasn't here, how does he think he knows so much about what they were or weren't doing all those centuries before us?

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 21:20 | 5785693 TheShadowKnows
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Oops. Sorry for the dupe

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 15:03 | 5784636 FreedomGuy
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Batman, I actually think of similar things. I am not one who believes the various tribes of the Americas were some tree-hugging, peace-loving, kum-ba-ya types. They were just as bad or good as anyone else in the world.

However, what I would long for was the relative simplicity of life. Do you think they were gathered around the village fire at night talking about what twelve levels of government were doing? Do you think, Geronimo was putting together a 15,000 page bill on what healthcare would look like? Do you suppose someone set up a speed trap for people riding too fast? Were they discussing the tribal HOA rules and how all teepees should look and properly aligning them to neighorhood standards? Was Squanto setting up a DMV for everyone to register their horses with a property tax on each one?

Life was brutal and unforgiving, no doubt in my mind. Yet, everyone was significant. Each day you survived and had enough to eat was a good day and a small victory. Most of all, there were not 4000 people sending you rules to live by and taking a piece of what you earned. If you had a problem with anyone...you knew where they lived.

My favorite movie is Last of the Mohicans with Daniel Day Lewis. I'd be Nathaniel in a heartbeat. Hell, I'd be almost anyone in the movie.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 23:04 | 5785931 consider me gone
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I just read the book. Even better than the movie and I like the movie.

Sun, 02/15/2015 - 02:07 | 5786214 StychoKiller
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Native-Americans had the equivalent of every profession, save one:  LAWYERS!

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 13:39 | 5784446 SquadronVBF94
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Well except maybe or al the idiots with their noses buried in Putin's ass!

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 13:46 | 5784467 Payne
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As long as you are pointing fingers you have your own nose up someone else's ass and are not thinking for yourself but living off of the propaganda.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 20:38 | 5785578 SquadronVBF94
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You make stupid assumptions and draw even stupider conclusions without any evidence.  Tell us please how does one can "live off of the propaganda"? 

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 21:44 | 5785775 Minder For Priapus
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Just by talking about the pros and cons of either, ie doing what they want.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 15:09 | 5784649 malek
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Right on cue!

Another one to give The Automatic Benefit of the Doubt to the US government but not a single doubt to Russian government - and then tries to sell that here as a balanced opinion!!

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 15:49 | 5784770 SquadronVBF94
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I haven't the slightest doubt the Washington DC has devolved into a cesspool of corruption and is hell bent on destroying a once great and self-sufficient people.  It sickens me. 

Conversely I know enough Russian history to understand that its own brand of evil and corruption has resided inside the walls of the Kremlin since its wall were first erected.  Lenin's rotted corpse still lays at their foot so don't tell me the current resident is really any different than any of the previous ones. 

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 16:46 | 5784859 malek
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I ask you again: not the slightest doubt on Russian government?

Putin and all of Russian government is bad, has always been bad and is therefore abolutely 100% bad forever?

In the US it's just a few rotten apples in comparison?

How can you even try to keep a straight face while selling that as a balanced opinion.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 19:19 | 5785313 SquadronVBF94
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Hey douche bag don't put words in my mouth.  I never claimed to have nor do I want to have a "balanced opinion".  There is no such thing.  I judge a tree by its fruit.  Has the "new" government of Russia ever apologised for Russia having started WWII in conjuction with the Nazis?  Have they apologised for nearly half a century of occupation of Eastern Europe?  How about acknowledging the crimes of the Gulag?  The forced relocation of entire populations?  Like I said Lenin's rotted corpse still lies in state at the foot of the walls of the Kremlin.  Show me the please German government built and maintained memorials to Hitler, Musolinni or Tojo. 

That I can publicly say that both Obama and Putin are scum bags shows that there is indeed still a difference.  Putin is just a clever populist out to enrich himself and his cronies just like any other batch of corrupt politicians and power brokers.

Sun, 02/15/2015 - 03:39 | 5786290 malek
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Even if you don't strive for a balanced opinion, I do hope you at least try to use the same measuring stick on all parties. (As otherwise you're effectively trolling.)

The whole Gulag and so on thing, and using Germany in comparison, only displays your blinders as you do not mention UK's memorial for Dresden terror bomber Harris, or US internment camps for Japanese during WWII - to pick a few quick examples.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 16:02 | 5784788 tarabel
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Okay, Mr. Objectivity,

Say something bad about Putin. Surely you can find something you don't like about him?

Not happening, is it?

You want me to say something good about Putin first to prove that I am not an automatic tool? Okay.

He might be the best ruler (but note the word ruler) that Russia has had since Peter the Great. This doesn't make him George Washington by any means. It's not a hard standard to beat, given the competition.

But the problem with any cult of personality is that it ENDS eventually, and then someone else sits on the throne-- someone who has their own differing interests to pursue and is not bound by the RULE OF LAW.

Frederick the Great was great.

Peter the Great was great.

But they did not build up institutional protections that would allow their supposed benevolence to outlive them personally.

Putin is a top-down guy-- as are almost all governments and institutions these days. Tear them down. Tear them all down.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 16:45 | 5784899 malek
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As we have no George Washington today, you too seem to be falling short explaining how the US has anything better.

If you haven't recognized yet, the Rule of Law has been largely abolished in the US. We are actually not turning Japanese but instead Chinese as the US psychopaths copy the "successful" ways of China, especially the part laws in China are only valid when they serve the government’s interests.

I can say a lot of bad about Putin, but the difficult part is to find things that are actually better *here*.

A ZH commenter put it best, back in December:
The collapsing west needs a boogieman and so far Putin has been really calm, cool, and measured in his responses. Watch as the west ratchets up the propaganda as their end approaches.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 18:36 | 5785187 tarabel
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You can, but you won't.

I quite agree that the rule of law is collapsing in America. Given its long tradition, however, and the fact that the population is heavily armed, where else is it likely to be reversed, if not here?

It's our turn to step up to the fiery altar. "We will nobly save, or meanly lose, the last, best hope on earth."

Nobody else is going to do it. Certainly not the Russian President-for-life.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 18:50 | 5785232 malek
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That's quite a stretch to state I'm somehow implying the Russian President can reverse that the rule of law is collapsing in America.

He does however might be able to somewhat limit the application of measures outside the rule of law by the US on some other countries.
Now please tell why that is bad.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 17:50 | 5785051 stacking12321
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lol - "institutional protections".

possibly the best national institutional protections were the us constitution, bill of rights, and checks & balances. but, we all see how that is ending.

right now, i favor a strong russia with putin as a strong leader, as someone who can stand up to the ussa and counter its aggressive, warmongering, imperialist agenda. not because he is some saint or hero, but because he serves a useful role in history.

in a few years once the ussa is in ruins, we should hope to see the russian and chinese authoritarian states torn down as well.

but for now, the ussa govt, and those who pull its puppet strings, is the greatest threat to humanity.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 18:43 | 5785201 tarabel
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Ending, but not yet ended. In places, the dam still holds. Term limits for Lord Barack, for example. As stated above, the desired policies of Russia and the desired policies of the US government are indisitinguishable, but this is not ordained or inescapable. I see many changes boiling away here in this country. This nation is getting ready for a fight with itself. 

Where else do you find a population increasingly in foment about its out-of-control government and possessed of the means to do something about it?

As General Washington's prophecy puts it:

"The whole world united shall not prevail against her."

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 18:54 | 5785244 malek
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Term limits for Lord Barack, for example

So that's going to save us - you mean just like the terms limits on G.W. Bush's presidency that relieved us with another 6.5 years outbushing Bush, so far.

Grasping for straws, are you?

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 21:30 | 5785737 TheShadowKnows
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"This doesn't make him George Washington by any means."

How much do you really know about George Washington? For that matter, how many names of the other Constitution signers can you rattle off (without googling)? Probably no more than a handful out of the 39. And what do you know about any of their biographies?

I guess Russian history is more pertinent today than US history.

LOOK! Over there, over there.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 21:32 | 5785739 TheShadowKnows
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Sat, 02/14/2015 - 15:42 | 5784732 tarabel
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I think you are mistaken. Having a nose up Putin's ass would only get in the way of their tongues.

 

I dislike Putin and Obama in about equal measure and for the exact same reason. They both want to institute a system where every human activity passes first through the hands of the State and then funnels into the grimy hands of a chosen group of corrupt industrialists before the crumbs from the feast are doled out to the masses, who had better be properly thankful if they don't want their paperwork to get screwed up somehow.

They are on the same team with the bankers and all other plutocrats and oligarchs but are simply arguing about who gets to play quarterback.

Away with them all and replace them with nobody.

 

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 13:44 | 5784452 JustObserving
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Little by little, humanity’s blind devotion to authority is cracking. Someday, it will break apart.

What's taking so long for blind devotion to crack?  Everyone knows that 9/11 was false flag.  All of America's wars have been started on lies.  The ceasefire in Ukraine is already being destroyed:

US and Ukrainian officials seek to torpedo Minsk cease-fire agreement

 

By Niles Williamson 
14 February 2015

 

American and Ukrainian officials issued provocative threats and accusations against Russia less than 48 hours after German, French, Russian and Ukrainian negotiators reached a cease-fire agreement following marathon talks in the Belorussian capital of Minsk.

The statements of Obama administration officials and Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko were designed to create a pretext for scuttling the cease-fire deal and escalating the assault on pro-Russian separatist forces in eastern Ukraine along with the diplomatic, economic and military campaign against Russia, while attempting to foist the blame on Moscow.

Washington and Kiev did not wait for the truce to take effect on Sunday to launch new charges of Russian military aggression, none of which were substantiated. Meanwhile, fighting in eastern Ukraine between pro-Russian separatists and government forces intensified.

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/02/14/ukra-f14.html

American lies that have led to war in recent history:

8. Vietnam (Kennedy, Johnson, 1964) — Lies: Johnson said Vietnam attacked our ships in the Gulf of Tonkin in August, 1964. Truth: The US didn’t want to lose the southeast Asia region, and its oil and sea lanes, to China. This “attack” was convenient.  Kennedy initiated the first major increase in US troops (over 500).

9. Gulf War (G.H.W. Bush, 1991) — Lies: To defend Kuwait from Iraq. Truth: Saddam was a threat to Israel, and we wanted his oil and land for bases.

10. Balkans (Clinton, 1999) — Lies: Prevent Serb killing of Bosnians. Truth: Get the Chinese out of Eastern Europe (remember the “accidental” bombing of their embassy in Belgrade?) so they could not get control of the oil in the Caspian region and Eastward.  Control land for bases such as our huge Camp Bondsteel in Kosovo, and for the proposed Trans-Balkan Oil pipeline from the Caspian Sea area to the Albanian port of Valona on the Adriatic Sea.

11. Afghan (G.W. Bush, 2001) — Lies: The Taliban were hiding Osama. Truth: To build a gas/oil pipeline from Turkmenistan and other northern ‘xxstan’ countries to a warm water (all year) port in the Arabian Sea near Karachi (same reason the Russians were there), plus land for bases.

12. Iraq (G.W. Bush, 2003) — Lies: Stop use of WMDs — whoops, bring Democracy, or whatever.Truth: Oil, defense of Israel, land for permanent bases (we were kicked out of Saudi Arabia) to manage the greater Middle East, restore oil sales in USD (Saddam had changed to Euros).

 

http://truth11.com/2010/12/18/13-lies-an-abbreviated-history-of-u-s-pres...

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 14:11 | 5784527 Ignatius
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And Ukraine is but the latest iteration of the big lie.  Absolutely stunning how uniform is the acceptance in corporate and NGO media that "Russia has invaded Ukraine and is attempting to rebuild the Soviet Empire."  The "Mighty Wurlitzer" in action.  Money purchases hearts and souls.  Anyone got a blue pill to spare?  No, not the boner pill -- I'm OK there -- the other one.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 17:54 | 5785060 stacking12321
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"Everyone knows that 9/11 was false flag."

no, not everyone. maybe most zh readers do, but the general public? asleep at the wheel.

that's the problem with a successful empire - its citizens become fat, dumb, and happy, and the nation falls into corruption and decadence.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 21:42 | 5785769 TheShadowKnows
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"American lies that have led to war in recent history:"

More than you listed  ...

And I've always wanted to ask someone so I guess this is a good time, wouldn't the original Boston Tea Party qualify as a false flag? Americans dressing up like Indians and attacking a British ship? I've also wondered who those American/Indians WERE. No one ever took credit personally as far as I know.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 13:41 | 5784458 Ralph Spoilsport
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I believe I'll have another drink.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 13:42 | 5784460 tlnzz
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I stopped looking for reasons to believe a long time ago.

I now look forward to retribution against those who have abused there authority and those who back them.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 14:16 | 5784548 sessinpo
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Keep on looking because as history shows, one dictator just replaces another. One politicians replaces another. One oligarch replaces another. And you and I remain eating that same shit sandwich.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 15:46 | 5784755 Arnold
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It is unfortunate that the city neighborhood you live in doesn't have another deli.

Maybe you should re shape your outlook and goals.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 18:03 | 5785041 August
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The "North Atlantic Civilization" aspires to be the One World Civilization.

The PTB might stll pull it off, but I think the odds have shifted and they'll probably fail.  The major issue is just how big their Final War will be.

BTW I do not thinks that China, India et al. are or will be particularly benign, once the Hegemon du jour has shrunken, or died.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 20:25 | 5785528 LooseLee
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Then grow some balls, you PUSSY, and starve the BEAST! How much of what you do each day feeds the international corporations and money masters?

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 13:41 | 5784461 kristian01
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ZH header really should be "Reasons to Believe our 7-Year Short Won't Go Down as the Worst Market Call Ever"

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 13:48 | 5784473 El Vaquero
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Uh, I'm pretty sure that, had you actually paid attention to what was written at ZH, you would have either stayed out of the markets all together or you would have BTFD.  The tylers have consistently pointed out how the market is manipulated, why it doesn't match reality and pointed out time and time again that BTFD and BTATFH have been winning trades despite the market lacking anything even remotely resembling fundamentals.  The only real folly that you can pick up from ZH is this all went on longer than anybody thought it could.

 

So, BTFD for now, and hope you get out of the market before BTFD breaks, because when it breaks, nobody is getting out ahead fo the stampede.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 15:31 | 5784697 tarabel
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My investment plan is to sit in the hottub at the ranch and watch the chaos on the dish.

The market will die in a simple fashion. There will be signs of a panic at the end of one session. Hordes of stop-loss orders will be teed up for the opening.

And the markets won't open.

When they finally reopen days or weeks later, it will be at prices that leave you 1/10th of what you used to have. And then all those waiting stop-losses will trigger at the new submarine price level and drive it even lower.

The money from these belated stop-losses will then be forwarded to your bank account as a first step in getting your money out of the market.

Where it will be used to recapitalize the bank and you will get bailed back into the market-- but with shares in a zombie bank instead of what you used to have.

Meanwhile, your IRA and 401k will be frozen and eventually seized, but you will receive a "guaranteed" monthly check from the government that is the equivalent of what they calculate would have been your return on investment. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

Of course the capital will be gone permanente and you'll live the rest of your life anxiously waiting for your government check to arrive and hoping that the sale price for cat food is still good when it finally gets there.

Yep, everyone is smart enough and fast enough to outthink and outdraw that system.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 15:51 | 5784774 Arnold
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Y'all quit talkin' trash in front of strangers.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 16:05 | 5784811 tarabel
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Who was that masked man?

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 20:33 | 5785556 LooseLee
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Yea, but only if you're long...

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 20:30 | 5785547 LooseLee
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Better to be 'short' than a PINKO FASCIOLIST' who CANNOT have an ORIGINAL thought. You are a PUSSY conformist that cannot lead anything. You are a FOLLOWER and a COWARD...Move to N. Korea where the leadership there bestows your blind OBEDIENCE!

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 13:47 | 5784469 Reaper
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Trust is a cheap opiate which removes responsibility for not thinking.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 14:00 | 5784506 cornfritter
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And speaking of hooch, the geniuses let the price get too high... millions of people sobering up, locking and loading... talk about a stoopid move... hope they get that terrorist internet thing shut down soon

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 14:11 | 5784533 cpnscarlet
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But in the end, EVERYTHING requires a leap of faith. You can still decide to believe that you won't fall when you jump off a roof despite the fact that you've seen gravity work millions of times. It's like African Americans still believing voting for a progressive will still make their lot in life better despite 60 years of evidence telling them that being part of the FSA only makes their overall life worse.

This is what being a free moral agent really means.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 15:41 | 5784567 GoinFawr
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lol, so I guess you must be one helluva a technically capable structural/chemical/civil/electrical engineer?

I confess it might be amusing to watch you tremble with trepidation as you examined/tested every aspect of every bridge you ever needed to cross, every single structure you've ever entered. And I would love to try driving the vehicle you designed/manufactured every aspect of too; I'm guessing you've performed your own brain surgery? 

I mean really, 'experts', who needs 'em? What with 'perfect knowledge' being such low hanging fruit and all.

 

Far from being an 'opiate' trust is the basis of every successful relationship.

 

:)

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 19:19 | 5785323 Reaper
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Trust betrayed is a basis of failed relationships.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 22:03 | 5785723 GoinFawr
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lol,

So you're saying, "Someone lied to me once, that means everyone always lies all the time eternally" ?

just because trust can be misplaced it doesn't follow that nothing can ever be trusted, or that placing trust in something worthy of that honour is somehow 'intellectually lazy'. 

I mean are you seriously telling us your answer is/has-been to never enter into any relationships? Or that you've never had a successful one, on any level? To never trust anyone or anything? Good luck with that, island unto yourself doctor of everything renaissance man!

The facts are just walking down the street you don't go two seconds without 'trusting' somebody else; why are you so opiated?

 

:)

 

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 22:06 | 5785805 nmewn
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The context of "trust" in the article (as well as in his comments) is dealing with authorities & politicians.

Tell me you trust them.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 22:56 | 5785909 GoinFawr
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Why not, if they prove themselves trustworthy?

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 23:01 | 5785927 nmewn
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Because by and large they've proven themselves untrustworthy?

Sun, 02/15/2015 - 01:35 | 5786175 GoinFawr
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Well, don't turn on the minority then, put them to work.

 

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 22:13 | 5785820 Reaper
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Your thesis and argument: Since you can't check everything, therefore everything you can't check is trusted.
Logical errors: Tu quoque. Texas sharpshooter. Composition/division. Straw-man. Black or White.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ Buy a poster

Since we trust bridges we cross, we must trust government is the argument of a fool.

Nietzsche: "Everything the government says is a lie. Everything the government has it has stolen."

Sun, 02/15/2015 - 02:15 | 5786147 GoinFawr
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Interesting,  maybe if I put my understanding of what you've written another way:

"Trust (of engineers) is a cheap opiate which removes responsibility for not thinking (of designing safe bridges oneself)"

and

"Trust (of doctors) is a cheap opiate which removes responsibility for not thinking (of healing oneself)"

so

"Trust (of____) is a cheap opiate which removes the responsibility for not thinking (of____oneself)"

 

" Trust (of gov't) is a cheap opiate which removes responsibility for not thinking (of governing oneself)"


 Well, considering that in a world devoid of any and all 'gov't' all it takes is for  one with wealth/power to fail to govern their self responsibly to spoil it for the rest of us , and considering that it is impossible for everyone to know everything all the time, I'm still not convinced "cheap opiate which removes responsibility" is the best descriptor; in any of those cases.

How about,

"Trust (in gov't) is a firm but conditional belief in the reliability of something other than yourself to act on your behalf in a responsible way that somewhat alleviates the absolute impossibility of you having perfect knowldege of everything, everywhere, all the time" ?

"Your thesis and argument: Since you can't check everything, therefore everything you can't check is trusted"

Wrong, it was: Since you can't 'check' everything, there are things you must trust that someone else has 'checked'. Nice try though.

"Since we trust bridges we cross, we must trust government is the argument of a fool"

Well then thank goodness that isn't what I wrote: Like line-cooks must trust engineers to responsibly design safe bridges using knowledge (power) line-cooks do not usually possess, so the masses trust 'gov't' to behave responsibly with the power they mandate them (barring evidence that specific engineers or politicians (or grossly unscrupulous, vitriolic line cooks for that matter) are not to be trusted, natch).

 

 

Sun, 02/15/2015 - 03:49 | 5786296 stacking12321
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" Well, considering that in a world devoid of any and all 'gov't' all it takes is for  one with wealth/power to fail to govern their self responsibly to spoil it for the rest of us"

try to think a little more broadly about this situation.

all it takes WITH OR WITHOUT government, is someone with wealth/power to create problems for the rest of us.

given that fact, i would rather live in a world without government, where i am free to take the steps needed to protect myself, not shackled and tied down by laws, regulations and enforcers that are created by those same men with wealth/power.

i would rather take responsibility for my own freedom and my own self-government, than to adbicate that responsibility to those who have their own selfish interests at heart, and don't represent my views or beliefs. and that is what i will do, thanks very much.

 

 

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 13:47 | 5784471 SickDollar
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BUT BUT "But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education SUCKS, and it’s the same reason it will never, ever,  EVER be fixed.

It’s never going to get any better, don’t look for it, be happy with what you’ve got.

Because the owners, the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the BIG owners! The Wealthy… the REAL owners! The big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions.

Forget the politicians. They are irrelevant. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice! You have OWNERS! They OWN YOU. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought, and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls.

They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying,  lobbying, to get what they want.  Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: 

They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests.

Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table and think about how badly they’re getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago. They don’t want that!

You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork. And just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shitty jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you sooner or later cause they own this fucking place! It's a big club, and you ain’t in it!  You, and I, are not in the big club.

By the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table has tilted folks. The game is rigged and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care! Good honest hard-working people; white collar, blue collar it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on. Good honest hard-working people continue, these are people of modest means, continue to elect these rich cock suckers who don’t give a fuck about you….they don’t give a fuck about you… they don’t give a FUCK about you.

They don’t care about you at all… at all… AT ALL.  And nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Thats what the owners count on. The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick thats being jammed up their assholes everyday, because the owners of this country know the truth.

It's called the American Dream,because you have to be asleep to believe it." GC

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 18:21 | 5785139 Niall Of The Ni...
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No they don't---and the awful truth (as I keep saying) is that they're only keeping us around for as long as it takes to develop robots and computers able to do any job a human can do and do it better. Then they'll exterminate us. 

Robots will make far better socialists than mere humans ever did.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 22:23 | 5785843 Milestones
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"We the people--- do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America." As soon as people in this country start acting like owners instead of a sharecropper in in the 1800's south this shit will stop; and not before.

That attitude is is pure bullshit.              Milestones

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 18:37 | 5785191 August
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Marco Rubio is different.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 20:35 | 5785567 LooseLee
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SELF-KNOWLEDGE is the ONLY education. That will answer every question you could ever have....

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 13:47 | 5784472 denny69
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If they want, seek or wish authority, fame or recognition, do not listen, do not obey and do not trust. Among many other things our 'leaders' would have us invest our belief in are their awards ceremonies. Almost all of them are simply advertisements for the latest liar, thief and murderer. Trust yourselves first and you will eventually know who else to trust.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 13:52 | 5784483 Smegley Wanxalot
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Wait.  Are you saying our leaders are a bunch of shitsucking lying piece-of-crap thieving cunts who need to be trotted out in front of a firing squad, and not the blessed servants of the people their MSM propagandists say they are?

 

Fuck.  My world is shattered!  My brains are splattered ... splattered all over ... Manhattan.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 14:31 | 5784572 Seize Mars
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don't you know the prime rate's goin' up, up up up UUUP!

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 13:52 | 5784485 atomicwasted
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As far as I can tell, people still crave being ruled by authority.  They need a political or religious leader to tell them what to think.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 13:53 | 5784488 czarangelus
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Don't worry, after the nuclear war is over, what remains of humanity will form warbands and commit every act of piracy and depravity under their charismatic leaders.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 16:12 | 5784825 Winston Churchill
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Where do I sign up ?

Sun, 02/15/2015 - 04:13 | 5786306 Charming Anarchist
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First world problems.  Oh, woe is us! 

 

<<....what remains of humanity will form warbands....>> 

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 13:56 | 5784498 nakki
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People that go into politics are narcotics, natural born liars. I think most people know this, but what to do? I read a lot about ridding our country of the FED, but then what? Politicians running a Central bank? Good luck with that. Seem to me it  would just be more of the same. I can only hope that at some point in the not so distant future our overlords become kinder, gentler psychopaths.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 14:06 | 5784519 besnook
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.gov spends millions of dollars to know this already and prepare for it. of course, .gov with an us vs. them attitude will use force to change sentiment instead of leadership.

humans will put up with a tremendous amount of abuse before they realize violence is the only way to improve their lot. the usa and west is miles away from that point when you see what humans put up with all over the world. stalin and mao were both able to kill millions of their own people without endangering the state. in fact, the people hardly responded at all in both cases even though the people thought chang kai shek ought to be driven to formosa and the tsar and his family murdered for their indicretions barely a generation before.

the best one can hope for at this stage is mild protest, occupy hipster style, perhaps a few more populist politicians, underground blogs becoming mainstream and maybe even a third party candidate the msm can't stop.

a massive reset changes the dynamics but there is nothing to see here. americans need to lose 50 pounds apiece and have their cable tv shut off before they start to get upset enough to change reality. .gov knows that.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 18:15 | 5785112 NidStyles
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Violence doesn't stop violence. It merely redirects it. If only you weren't a simpleton you'd understand this.

Sun, 02/15/2015 - 02:19 | 5786227 besnook
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you are the simpleton for thinking something in human nature is going to change. violence has always been the answer. even buddhists have succumbed to human nature teaching right violence is defensive only. talk about a redirection of violence, you wouildn't consider a violent overthrow of usa .gov a defensive violence? at what point will you consider it it defensive violence? what is the tipping point?

 

you will succumb to violence or you will die. it is hardwired.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 14:12 | 5784536 A Lunatic
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imdone......

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 14:13 | 5784539 Niall Of The Ni...
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For most people in the west, belief in the good will of their betters won't break apart till they're shoved by their post-singularity robot overseers into an extermination chamber. By then, of course, it'll be too late.

Not to mention the bad guys have more than enough nukes to take the proles down with them. Nothing short of the undoing of industrial and agricultural civilization will strip them of their power and keep it stripped. Not much of a trade for the 99.9 percent of the human race who'll die off as a result, putting a new spin on the 0.1 per cent.

Someone will inherit the earth---robots or wild animals. It just won't be the meek. 

 

 

 

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 15:11 | 5784655 tarabel
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What? You think this problem isn't universal? That people in Russia or China or Madagascar don't think the same way?

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 14:45 | 5784541 FreedomGuy
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I like this post and I think there are many reasons people want to believe in the authority figure from socialization at the earliest ages to respect authority figures to simply needing to function daily in one's own life. Who can take every news headline every day and try to figure the "real" story?

For the first time I am living in a condo. I wanted to simplify my life to two main parts; work and play. I do not want to maintain a home, a yard or anything more complicated than a leaking faucet. I don't need 5,000 square feet of empty, unused, heated and cooled space to wow my friends. I want simplicity.

What I did not realize was that I accidentally signed up for a new level of government. We have the Feds we all talk about here and their 1000 agencies (complete with SWAT teams) to "help" and protect....and govern us. Then follows the state and the cities which are pretty visible. Counties tend to be rather invisible except for the occasional speeding ticket or unless you live in a very rural area.

Add to this the HOA, now. Not long after moving I got notices on a slat that was bent in some of my blinds (had been taped by the contractor) followed by a notice that someone did not like me leaving one of my kayaks on the ground in my undergroud parking for a day. I have a large planter on my ground floor deck and the HOA landscaper seems to have hit it with Agent Orange. I complained about weeds and neglect and they stripped it. So, now I have a back and forth process with a new entity that sends me notices and threatens to fine my like a new level of government. With all this stuff you would think lots of people would show up at HOA meetings. Nope. No even me, BTW. I run long days and my plan was to avoid just this sort of thing...complications. Yet, here they are again along with a new level of government I unwittingly instituted.

We are all busy just trying to live and generally not hassle our fellow man. However, there is a large group of people from your HOA up the the POTUS who take a very detailed interest in YOU and what you are doing, what you will do in the future and what the future should look like with or without your voluntary cooperation. So, at the HOA level someone else (or a small committee) has decided your blinds will be beige and at the national level someone else has decided what your retirement and healthcare will look like.

Who the hell has the time to fight everyone at every level who has plans for you that generally do not even require your permission (majority votes are not the same)??? I do not, cannot and will not. My entire life would be consumed. All of us would consume our entire lives fighting each other.

This is partly why we tend to, even have to try and give authority figures the benefit of the doubt, given they have authority.

My daydream is that one day we reject the whole concept of anyone ruling us and adopt some libertarian model of life.

Sun, 02/15/2015 - 07:23 | 5786425 Bearwagon
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This problem can easily be solved: If you are confronted with absolute ridiculous decisions - you just have to answer on the same level. Let me clarify that on the basis of your example with the kayak. You shall not leave your kayak on the ground - well, okay, that's ridiculous. So all you have to do is being just as ridiculous or even a bit more. Which in that case would mean, that you'd simply have to put two or three logs under your kayak, so it doesn't touch the ground anymore. See, how such an absolutely ridiculous action is just the right answer to ridiculous demands?! The longer you do this, the more practice you'll get, and we shall see who can be the most ridiculous in the end ...    ;)

Mon, 02/16/2015 - 14:56 | 5790664 FreedomGuy
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You are a passive-aggressive rebel ,aren't you, haha? Actually, I did something similar. I simply strapped it to the top of my SUV and left it there. I have more than one car so I just let it sit there. I wanted to put an FU note on it but that would just be more problems and maybe vandalism.

It did make me read the rules and I noticed that you cannot park a camper in the spaces, as well. So, if you are a family or enjoy camping yourself and want to put a camper in one of your privately owned spaces, you cannot. Bikes are okay, but kayaks are not.

This is the world of the busybody, HOA Nazi. And, as I said before, it is a new level of government and hassles.

My new idea it to buy an old semi-abandoned garage on the edges of town, something like a 1940's thing and turn it into a modern loft type party place where I actually park the cars inside. No damnable HOA's or zoning rules.

It is almost a crime today to do your own thing, to do anything not approved by the local collective.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 14:17 | 5784552 noben
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Leave trust out of it. Proceed on Principles and Values.

Cause the West has so much of them. Oh, wait...

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 14:18 | 5784553 will ling
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ah, as for the nebulous "someday", it'll dawn when at last the firing squads and/or guillotines are in action 24/7 across the land.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 14:35 | 5784556 A Lunatic
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Blind devotion to authority is cracking, which is why the new leadership structure is trending along the lines of change you can believe in, OR ELSE........

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 14:23 | 5784564 Jack Daniels Esq
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Barry born in Hawaii fucked all that up

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 15:42 | 5784738 kchrisc
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Barry reborn at Langley.

The banksters need to repay us.

 

https://theobamahustle.wordpress.com/2013/01/23/breaking-news-obama-caug...

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 14:29 | 5784569 Inthemix96
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Being a window cleaner, me like, has many funny problems you see. I meet people from all spectrum's of life, rich men down to council tenants, the one thing that keeps coming up though is the way we are not just being ruined, but fucking raped, day by day, month by month.  Even my customers can see this, all of them.

 And each and every one of them says the same thing, the internet has allowed them to see this abuse up front and fucking personal.

Nice job NSA GCHQ, you are not just fucked, you are fucking fucked.  Hope that was worth it boys.

You bunch of child molesting protecting cunts.  Jimmy saville is dead, you will wish you were in short order.

Night night cunts.

;-)

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 14:49 | 5784608 q99x2
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I believe in only one thing: my FAFSA. And yes it may be true that the source of it is in the deaths, dismemberment and burned alive human beings as part of the NWO attempt to find funding to pay for my education, I feel that the study of how young women learned morality in 18th century England is essential for understanding and presenting a complete account to my species as a means to convince them that never again should they send a scout such as myself to this god forsaken planet.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 15:09 | 5784628 Dre4dwolf
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Whoever follows the flock is also following assholes.

In order to get someone to believe or follow an authority figure... you must first make that person afraid.... because no one would follow anyone unless they were ... afraid not to.

So step 1 Get everyone in fear mode, because in fear mode a human being will do whatever you tell them to do without thinking.

Step 2 now that you have presented a make believe problem for the masses to be afraid of (you name it: Terrorists, Economic doom, impending war, high crime, w.e) you bombard them with fear propaganda to over-play the situation.... 

Step 3 now you present your "solution" to the problem you created.... and that solution o/c comes with a few strings attached to further expand your power and influence....

Step 4 you get the masses to send their kids to your government schools, where they will be indoctrinated into believing that "they belong to a club called a country" and that "their country is the best country on earth" and that "in order to stay safe and secure" they must "pay taxes and tribute to government, participate in drafts to fight for "freedom" and they must not question authority".

Step 5 every now and then let a terrorists attack take place, or if no terrorists are to be had to make an attack happen, you fake it with a false-flag or you do your best to abuse your power in order to create an enemy abroad with poor foreign policy... because a government without an enemy to fight is pretty much a pointless entity in the eyes of the masses... there is no reason to even have a government unless there is some impending doom/boogie man that they have to fight... (Hitler, Soviet Union cold war, Japan) etc...

So governments create the problems in order to solve them and foster their own stronghold on power, now with the internet and mass media the fear of government and the enemies of government has ended, no one is afraid of government anymore . . . we all mock government day after day.... even terrorists beheading people and setting them on fire on mass media seems to have no effect, the people have acclimated to fear and now the required dose of fear has to be extremely high in order to have any effect at all.

 

TO be blunt, nothing short of a nuclear attack on America will have any net-effect in the psyche of Americans at this point, quite simply no one is afraid anymore, and no ones is buying it.... no one cares if there are "terrorists out there who hate us" because the odds of being attacked by a terrorists is zilch (these are just people in caves.....) if you are not aimlessly walking around in the middle east waving an American flag around your odds of being captured, and killed are pretty much ZERO.... and the odds of them attacking the homeland again are pretty much zero and even if they do attack us again... its not going to garnish the same benefits for government like 9/11 did because quite honestly more people blame our own government for 9/11 than terrorists anyway.

Government is going to one day become an endangered species... because the entity we call government has quite frankly outlived its usefulness.... sure it will in its death-throws put up a fight to hold onto power, but we are clearly heading to a world where governments no longer exist like they do today...

Since government today cant foster a scary enough boogie man to fight abroad , it has resorted to trying to turn us against eachother with bribes and "benefits".... Financial Aid, Foods-Stamps, Social Security, Government Grants for specific types of people... all paid for with taxes and debt that the people who do not "qualify" for any of the benefits have to pay.

So since we have no terrorists to fight (no real scary ones anyway), they are trying to turn Rich against Poor, Black against White, Muslims against Jews and Christians, and even Government vs the People.... because if they can get a big enough group of people to actively protest against government  they can play it off like they are "domestic terrorists" and go door to door bashing peoples skulls in with clubs.... to instill fear in the population.... fear of their government and what happens when you do not comply with the oligarchs demands.

So what does the future hold? I think the future is quite literally no governance at all because the only people who are strong enough to win this fight are the ones who prop the system up anyway... once they stop contributing . . .  all the dependants (people reciving government aid) and Government itself... will starve and die - off... the effects of darwinism is not limited to biological life forms, but also to make believe entities like government as well...

 

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 16:36 | 5784873 Seasmoke
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Enjoyed reading this one. 

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 20:25 | 5785531 g speed
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Thank you---you've given me hope that my little "gov't is obsolete" tag is taking root-----+1

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 20:54 | 5785635 Minder For Priapus
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I agree with most of what you said, apart from terrorists "attacking the homeland again" ?

When was the first attack?

 

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 15:10 | 5784651 Bumbu Sauce
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Who could have guessed that the students in the '60's that had their "Question Authority" sticker on their VW's would matriculate into Fabian Socialists and Statists of the worst type the world has ever seen?

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 16:07 | 5784817 Clowns on Acid
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Lok at Bill Ayers... look at John Kerry ... lok at Hillary Clinton ......you mean to tell me that you are surprised that these sociopaths matriculated into Fabian statists ?  They need to be punched in the face, as Kid Rock says.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 17:09 | 5784958 will ling
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profound!

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 15:17 | 5784669 Fix It Again Timmy
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Our "News" networks:

Nothing But Crap

Colossal Bull Shit

All Bull Crap

Crappy News Now...

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 15:29 | 5784687 kchrisc
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Always about money, power (future money), division, and distraction.

Lies are more profitable than truth.

If we the people made them pay dearly for their lies and transgressions, the truth would be more profitable. That is the sentiment behind "Don't tread on me." Make them pay for their lies and transgressions.

The banksters need to repay us.

 

Guillotines Restore truth, justice, and Liberty.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 15:31 | 5784711 RabbitOne
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There are three kinds of humans- the sheeple, the sheep dogs and the wolves. Life can be explained as sheeple or those people compared to sheep in being docile, foolish, or those easily led who make up the majority of the population. The sheep dogs protects the sheeple from wolves using power like police, government and religion. The sheep are preyed upon by wolves in guises of sheep dogs using powers like police, government and religion.

 A basic thriving society organization is simple. Most sheeple who live in an orderly flock (god’s rules) prosper. However, to remain prosperous the herd must find leaders (the sheep dog’s) to present gods rules for their offspring (family), sheeple must find leaders (the sheep dog’s) to keep gods rules of the pasture fair and balanced (government), and leaders (the sheep dog’s)  to find grass that is greener for the new sheeple (jobs).

 Sheep dog run institutions which kept America strong in the past like the government, banks, business, press, church, schools, police, courts and military are now filled with wolves. America’s big inner cities and suburbs have broken down as these wolves feed on the young sheeple. Without a strong foundation of institutions in America all kinds of violence including gun violence will become more prevalent in our sheeple. Until the sheeple cry out loudly to wake up sheep dogs the wolves will remain in charge and our once thriving society will continue to crumble… and the wolves prey…and the wolves prey…


 

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 16:28 | 5784855 brushhog
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I think you are partially right, society has become essentially a human farming enterprise. You can't get more eggs by threatening a chicken, but you can get a man to give you his eggs by threatening HIM. And once that was discovered the great practice of human farming began. All governments are basically human farming models. Some allow a little more freedom ( free range ) because they have found that the profits are actually higher that way. Some are simply using older farming models such as totalitarian/socialism systems to try and pen up and micromanage their human livestock.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 20:42 | 5785595 Minder For Priapus
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Could ball my eyes out or laugh my tits off but sadly that is true.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 20:39 | 5785588 g speed
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Rabbit---The strong foundational institiution you are looking for is the family.  Being the most denigrated institution in the history of governmental efforts to destroy meaningful intsitutions, the family is the most profoundly necessary for human civilization. The war on family is an ongoing priority of the NWO

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 15:52 | 5784780 p00k1e
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All Mr. Government has to do is delay all transfer payments & EBT reloads for a day.  Let that ripple. 

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 16:33 | 5784862 brushhog
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I'm skeptical of this. I hope people are waking up and that type of change is coming but the people I speak to seem to be thoroughly convinced that the-powers-that-be here are the good guys and only have their best interests at heart. I've given up even discussing world affairs with most people, having come to the conclusion that you cannot convince somebody not to be a moron.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 17:58 | 5785070 Bumbu Sauce
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I'm seeing more and more "Ready for Hillary" stickers every day.

Sun, 02/15/2015 - 04:46 | 5786335 Charming Anarchist
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Just a pre-quel to hearing Hillary's election battle-cry: "Ready or not, here I come!" 

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 16:47 | 5784892 lasvegaspersona
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If Tim Hardin was still alive he'd be flattered and butt hurt at the same time. He wrote 'Reason to Believe' (and it goes... C, G, Am, F, G, C then D ect). Great song.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 16:54 | 5784926 2hangmen
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Ann Barnhardt had it right. The big Catch 22 is, that anyone wanting to participate in our political system by running for office, is by that very nature, an inherent lying, amoral, many times, a psychopathic whore. Their SOLE purpose for public service is to increase their wealth and power, period. There was a time I believed there may be a few exceptions to this Catch 22, but sadly, I cannot think of even one.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 18:35 | 5785181 jc125d
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Hey Rosenberg ref bullet #1: During the bad spots of this current age, people would be abused by the self-chosen people but say, "Well, they're rich - they must really know". Fuck you.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 18:58 | 5785256 arby63
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No doubt it will happen soon. It's going to be bloody though. Not a doubt there. 

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 19:13 | 5785306 SirBarksAlot
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http://www.pollingreport.com/CongJob.htm

I think you're right.  Look at the job rating for Congress.  Scan back to the early 2000s and see how high it was then. 

People are definitely waking tfu.

Sat, 02/14/2015 - 19:36 | 5785382 Bemused Observer
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Because all the people you fucked over the last few decades don't go away. They remain, pissed off. And most NEVER regain their trust.

All they've been doing is adding to the pile over the years. At some point, you reach a critical mass...

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