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How One Russian Farmer Repaid His "Lickspittle Good-For-Nothing" Bankers
For Russian farmer Alexander Bakshaev, the crushingly high interest rates the banks were charging him on his loan inspired a smelly protest... As Pro-Sibir reports, the fuming farmer repaid his loan with the equivalent value in manure.
As NBC News reports, the manure was worth 40,000 rubles ($610) - the exact amount he owed the bank, Bakshayev told Sibkray.ru.
"The whole of Russia somehow owes something now to these lickspittle good-for-nothing bankers with nothing to do," Bakshayev was quoted as saying.
He owns 70 cows and 20 piglets but his total debt is 1 million rubles ($15,400), he told Sibkray.ru. That's 34 times the average monthly salary in Russia of about 29,000 rubles ($450).
The Kremlin has said it relies on Russian farmers to fill the gap caused by an import ban on Western foodstuffs imposed in retribution for sanctions over the war in Ukraine.
However, punitive interest rates have left businesses struggling for money.
Bakshayev's creditor, the state-run Sberbank, blasted his stunt as "hooliganism" but police in the city of Kuybyshev saw no reason to detain the farmer.
Security guards did not appear in the hour that it took Bakshayev to dump the manure, plant the gallows and pose for interviews in front of the heap.
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The words on the gallows say "Down with credit slavery" and "Bankers are the enemies of the people"
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No shit....really?
One pile of shit (the bankers) always deserves another.
“God forbid we should be twenty years without a rebellion. What country can preserve its liberties if the rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?”
— President Thomas Jefferson (1787)
“This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember, or overthrow it.”
— President Abraham Lincoln (Inaugural Address, 1861)
“The right of Revolution is an inherent one. When people are oppressed by their government, it is a natural right they enjoy to relieve themselves of the oppression if they are strong enough, either by withdrawing from it, or by overthrowing it and substituting a government more acceptable.”
— President Ulysses S. Grant (1885)
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
— President John F. Kennedy (1962)
Happy Presidents Day!
Was the guy arrested for a terrorist act and sentenced to 30 years in prison like he would have been if did this in the US?
He lives in Russia, Vern. That's already a life sentence.
Only in your mind.
Dung is a good payback, but lead would be better.
French farmers do this all the time.
Literally paying banks with warm shit.
If that pile of dung is worth $610,
may cousins are billionaires.
Try that shit in 'Murica and your ass is going to prison for 10 plus years.
Is Pooh-tin behind this?
10 plus years?
The cops would shoot you dead on the spot...
in case anyone was wondering:
sign #1 reads: bankers are the enemy of the people
sign #2 reads: debt is credit robbery
I, partly, blame the andro gel.
And let me guess...the bankers that loaned him the money held a gun to his head so he would take the money. The debtor is every bit as guilty as the banker.
Not when lenders create an artificially liquidity-rich environment, in which debt becomes simply a requirement to remain in the game.
Which is exactly why so many 20-30 somethings are shut out of much of normal US life. Too much debt already, not enough "liquidity" going forward.
Lack of liquidity is better off being called an inflationary environment. No one can get ahead in a inflationary environment unless they have the free money spigot turned their way.
@FreeMoney. That is true if money were a thing freely traded. However our money is instead based on a monopolistic illusion, giving most of the guilt to those who create and maintain the monopoly (and the illusion).
I agree that is some very expensive dung....lol....its alot cheaper where I live.
Smells like he overpaid his interest payment.
To each their own. You want to live there, nobody's stopping you so far as I know.
I decided a long time ago to live wherever I feel like, and have no need or desire to report to you of my whereabouts... So, GFYSAD !
I still laugh every time I hear language like that emanating from the Angel of Joy. Kind of makes provoking you all worthwhile.
Also, please note that I did not request that you file a Change of Residence form with me, but merely observed that you could live in Russia if you wanted to and coupled that with an implied observation that you weren't about to.
Beat it, you 23 week old lying cunt.
However, I do thank you for contributing your wisdom to the general pool of veteran ZH knowledge.
Has it been that long already? I had no idea that length of service correlates with increased intelligence and veracity. But then I don't work for the DMV.
lol. I like this chick.
No, but there does seem to be a correlation between length of service and likelihood of being a paid internet shill commando. Spend your shekels wisely!
Such a simpleton reply.
Are you ready for NASCAR season, Goober?
Actually, I'm getting ready for planting season. Me and Ivan over there got to feed you superior metropolitan types.
I doubt you plant jack-shit.
True. There is a real shortage of jack-shit seeds this year-- even the GMO ones. So it's tomatoes and peppers for the early starters. Corn and experimental tobacco in the fields once the weather gets warm enough to plant. If I can get the fences rebuilt soon enough, I might run a few cowses over on the south property. But calf prices are ridiculous.
So you're a real entrepreneur in the good 'ole USofA? Damn, you must be proud. Forty years of Uncle Satan's “good big or get out” doctrine didn't affect you at all. Did you homestead?
I'm a little young to have been a homesteader. 23 weeks old, according to some folks around here.
But seriously...
Lost it all in 2008 and had to rebuild. I got a nicer house and more land out of the exchange but lost a lot of time and many trees that I will now have to replant on the new dirt.
2008 was a warning shot and a trial run. I've (hopefully) taken the lesson to heart and will at least make a different mistake this time around. Hope things go well for you as well, Mr. Baltar.
where is your operation?
123 Fake Street.
Somewhere on Farmville...
But I swear some of these shills don't even sound like real people anymore. They probably have a "patriot" chatterbot to spam the "terrurrist" domains.
Lost it all and rebuilt the farm in 7 years, damn you're good. Maybe you could tell all the other farmers and would-be farmers what they're doing wrong so they can be just as successful as you.
What the hell are you replanting trees for? I thought you're planting corn and tobacco this year?
Calf prices are great actually.
I just got $1800 a pop on backgrounders!
Go smoke some more of that 'experimental' tobacco of yours.
Of course they're great for those who have already rebuilt their herds. Alas, I am not currently on that side of the equation.
Why buy calvs? Start your own cows from seed.
Sheesh... FARMERS!
Farmers? Only fishermen can raise sea cows.
Plant a sea nut in dirt and you just get a magic beanstalk.
Ask Krugman.
"even the GMO ones."
And global warming.....
Viewing MSNBC often and the lesbian Rachel Maddow?
WTF man, chill the motherfuck out. I can understand bashing MSNBC for their bias, but back off on the gay bashing.
There is a real shortage of jack-shit seeds this year-
How about growing manure, looks like a good earner.....
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I can picture it already: David Lee Roth in Green Acres 2015. Don't forget to ask Mr. Kimball for some Department of Aggiculture pamphlets when he stops by to pick up your soil sample.
Whaddaya expect when you buy them from Mr. Haney?
"Uh, I’ve now been in fifty … ss-seven? states."
~The Panty Christ (2008)
"We'll be OK as long as all the EBT cards keep working"
-- ???
A Lincoln quote? Really? From the President that claimed that since the constitution dd not have an explicit mechanism for the States to secede (event though the Federal government did not exists before been created by the States) that the Federal Government reatined all authority to continue leveing taxes and posting troops in seceding states.
....unfortunately, he won that round..........wanna try round 2?
church! preach on brother... preach on....
“This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember, or overthrow it.”
— President Abraham Lincoln (Inaugural Address, 1861)
Fuck Lincoln. When the people grew weary of their government and seceded, that son of a bitch invaded and subjugated those who tried to "dismember" it.
Fuck him. Death to tyrants. Sic Semper Tyrannis.
Edit: and I want to add: "bankers are the enemy of the people", and "down with credit slavery". Clearly I have more in common with this Russian farmer than I do with the traitor Lincoln.
Bullshit. There was no war until the Confederacy attacked Fort Sumter and the South had the upper hand for 2 years. They could have ended the war any time they wanted to.
There was no war with Japan and Germany until Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. In both cases (Ft. Sumpter and Pearl Harbour), read the previous year's history of the events that aggravated the incidents.
you know.
i'm not going to even put kennedy to shame. but the lincoln quote is fraught with irony. the war of northern aggression was a war over taxation and capital productivity. the northern industrialists did not appreciate the southern slave heavy , taxless profit cartel. they wanted more of the souths power without having to compete with the south's cheap labor.
in essence , they wanted wage slaves (cheap labor ) and they wanted the south to pay more money for use of machinery and land (tax and interest on capital loans provided by the north).
so in 1861 it is awfully out of context of lincoln's efforts on behalf of governmetn power to brow beat the south with war to comply. i'm not endorsing or rejecting slavery. it simply is the defining attribute of a system run by plantation owners that didn't want to abide by government power.
jefferson may have made more sense in the context of fighting the british. the man died broke, having lost his fortune/property fighting the war. he took pains to sacrafice his welfare for the better of people around him.
this was not the case for all rich folks at his time. and that he owned slaves, while lincoln did not technically own any ( he helped his wifes family recover fugitive slaves as a lawyer) .
is not the defining factor of how these quotes should be perceived.
Manure is useful. Bankers are not.
This was my first thought. He actually paid them in something more valuable than fiat. He cheated himself. <chuckle>
Yeah, I was going to donate a ton of horse manure for the cause but realized that had too much value to part with. Maybe someone with access to some untreated human sewage? Hulk perhaps?
Miffed
And right now three Harvard MBAs at Goldman have figured out the value of the manure on the open market, leveraged the shit at 100 to 1, and started selling synthetic derivatives on said pile of shit at a conservative 50 to 1 ratio.
That pile of shit just generated 3 billion dollars of which Goldman will get its 15%, trickling down to those three MBAs to the tune of 20 million apiece in bonuses.
Ain't modern finance wonderful?
I'm calling Goldman right now about the contents of my septic tank.
<I'm gonna be rich I tell you, rich.>
It's like the "Street value of this mountain" scene fro Better Off Dead.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWkT0g3FrOk
What's in your wallet?
<I'm gonna be rich I tell you, rich.>
No, THEY will be rich, and YOU will be broke, because the terms of the mezz tranche of the interest rate swap on the CDO go against you, no matter what happens.
If you mulch both...
We have horses, thats not horse shit. Still looks like second cut hay to me.
"I shit you not" (70's vernacular...couldn't resist :)
A thing to remember is that in Russia banks don't play nice. They employ third parties to ensure borrowers, big and small, play by their rules. After a trick like that, the farmer might find himself buried in the same pile of shit the next day, chopped into little pieces.
in Russia banks don't play nice.
In Russia? As opposed to where?
I'm curious is anyone can tell us what interest rates are in Russia right now.
We habe resistance in France and Russia. US?
Hey, that's valuable manure!!! You can actually do and grow stuff with that, as to the bankers and financiers paper promises, not so much.
What a generous farmer. He needs to take their fucking heads instead.
just goes to show. when the shit hits the fan both ways, you want physical not paper assets
Personally I prefer paper over THAT physical!
It's all relative, and that's what makes actual markets.
Ha Old, good point. Maybe the bank was forced to take delivery on its manure position.
If it were actual paper that those promises were on, it could be useful as a source of carbon for your compost pile. Since it's probably digital, not so much.
Are you shitting me? Thats bullshit...
True story...I saw it on a few different sources on the ruskie sites about a week ago.
This is the awesomest story ever. More gallows! More pig shit for bankers!
I like this guy!
"...but police in the city of Kuybyshev saw no reason to detain the farmer.
Security guards did not appear in the hour that it took Bakshayev to dump the manure, plant the gallows and pose for interviews in front of the heap."
The arrogance of bankers surpassed only by the lazyness of public servants. Or they all agree with him.
Russian police only respond to help the non-connected if bribed sufficiently. Doubt the police had much interest in this bankers currency on hand.
I am sure the bank can repackage the 'goods' and sell it to some muppets as AAA graded investments (opposed to ASS graded investments).
At least manure backed securities will have some tangible value. That's more than can be said about some of the mortgage and debt based securities held by US banks.
moral hazard shit storm....
Jim Lahey's Shit Stormhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjMkqFmRGL4
pretty funny... "captain shitacular" :-)
my favorite is " you feel that? the way the shit clings to the air. it's already started, my dear good friend.... the shit blizard. "
Wow even the manure in Russia looks bkeak
Enjoy your 30 seconds of fame. From now on you will be farming in Siberia.....
Kuibyshev is Siberia, 300 km west of Novosibirsk
Whose map are you reading, 'cause you know...
not that you expect..
The bank isn't going to accept it as payment until he stuffs it all into those little coin wrappers.
Already an unperson drug to the lower floors where the Cheka did their handiwork.
The floor has already been washed down and the body stacked like cord-wood.
Its a shame he was forced to borrow money from these evil bankers.
The dastardly fucks are forcing us all to borrow money and buy cheap foreign crap we really didn't even need.
Hang em!!
Will an American bank like JP Morgan Chase or Bank of America accept a mortgage payment in the form of live chickens?
I have to ask. After all, what could be funnier than a homeowner entering a bank and trying to squeeze a live chicken through the little bank teller slot?
Hell, this could be a new trend. However, I have to say that paying a banker back with cow manure has a great ring to it.
Don't laugh. Chickens were used as currency here during the depression. A local peddler had a chicken cage on the side of the wagon he drove on his rounds out in the country. An annual subscription to a magazine was worth two chickens.
Doing title work, I've seen refi papers using seed corn as an agreed method of payment for distressed farm land financed on vendor liens.
"the manure was worth 40,000 rubles ($610)" I'm calling bull shit on this one.
You're shitting me. :)
He shits you not...
Shit's getting deep...
but police in the city of Kuybyshev saw no reason to detain the farmer
maybe real shit is more valuable than fake fiat....
Well here's a link for two pounds of bat shit that sells for $10.00 at Home Depot, so you figure it out.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Greenbelt-Organics-Bat-Guano-2-lb-Organic-Pow...
See what happens when you fuck with true price discovery?
Chicken manure is $450/25 ton load delivered, at least here locally. And we have a ton of chickens.
Chicken shit is the worst. It stinks and burns everything unless aged properly. I throw it over the bank.
Horse turds are okay but full of seeds, you'll grow more weeds and hay than anything else in your garden.
Cow plops are pretty sloppy to deal with unless you're spraying a hayfield with proper equipment.
Pig manure I stay away from, who wants to fertilize with dead hookers?
Worm poop, that is where it's at man.
I know my shit.
And that farmer has been mucking out stalls full of hay or straw. Very little shit content.
I know this region...
The pile shown is not anywhere near that value.
Now if only the American people had as much gumption to do the same. As it is now, due to multiculturisim, and the lying dying zionist lame stream media, no one really cares. Here is something everyone on ZH already knows and is now confirmed once again. How can the American govt allow serial spies and evil traitorous truth killers into the coutry, be it physiacally, or electronoically?
The shit show rolls on:
"READ FULL DESCRIPTION: As many of you may have suspected, Israel is paying and training internet bloggers to delete, rewrite, and revise internet content to shape public opinion to Israel's benefit. Video of the Israeli-sponsored training programs have been leaked to the web (like the video here)."
"Additionally, investigative reporters that infiltrated these groups have reported that Israelis are being trained to spread disinformation and to try to create conflicts among different religious, racial, and ethnic groups if it would benefit Israel. Some of the seminars also encouraged the workers to spread disinformation on the internet and to attempt to recruit free (unpaid) labor. For example, many of these bloggers have been trained to attempt to make friends with you by pretending that they share an interest in your favorite sports team or movie, or that they went to the same school, but they will ultimately try to recruit you to attack other groups or individuals that Israel thinks is against its national interests (e.g., 'Muslims,' 'Russians,' 'Germans,' 'Latinos,' 'United Nations representatives' and 'human rights groups'). Others have been trained to personally attack, stalk, and harass anyone personally that does not agree with Israel. Not only is this type of behavior a terrible injustice to the accuracy of content (it's actually state-sponsored propaganda), it is also damaging to the public trust because people are being misguided into working as unpaid servants of a government through false pretenses. People really should speak out about this."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LofScCiJT4c
ATTENTION WORLD'S PEOPLE:
STOP MAKING WAR FOR THE EVIL SATANIC BANKSTERS TO PROFIT FROM.
EVERYONE MUST UNITe TO FIGHT THESE EVIL THINGS WORLD-WIDE!!!
Hear, hear victory...we need to reach more and more people...why do you think OBarry is crafting legislation to regulate and tax the internet, the word is indeed getting out!!!!!!
ONE VOICE for ALL OF THE LITTLE PEOPLE is what we need! FUCK THE SECRET CABALS~!
that doesn't look like high quality manure to me
Over here, it would be free for the hauling. I get stuff like that all the time from people who are delighted to let me have it gratis.
So I do have to question what sort of price they have for shit in Russia since that is about 1 truckload for 600 bucks. Shipping and handling must be a real bitch over there.
Don't get me wrong. I salute him for his ingenuity and willingness to take a stand. But I do think his math is a little off.
Ha, that was just the photo-op pile...delivery was in back of that building...
i hope so because that just looks like pissed on straw from the stalls. in other words, it ain't worth jack shit, much less $600.
that's the point....
french farmers have much better shit:
http://www.infowars.com/french-farmers-spray-government-buildings-with-f...
But putin regime works for Bankers & oligarchs:
Russia scales up Trust Bank bailout as crisis biteshttp://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/26/us-russia-crisis-trust-bank-id...
Russia Adds Gazprombank to Its Bank Bailoutshttp://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-adds-gazprombank-to-its-bank-bailouts...
Russia's National Welfare Fund May Be Used to Support Bankshttp://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/russias-national-welfare-...
Have you fucking nothing better to do son?
Is all you can do post anti Putin shit here on Zh? You must be paid for posting shit son.
Let me make this clear son, we dont fucking believe you.
Now fuck off. Idiot cunt.
;-)
Putin is as much of a cunt as Barry, ITM96...he is just the lesser of two evils!
It is high time we stop the infighting amongst ourselves and focus our attention where it is needed - against the corrupt govts, greedy bankers, and crony politicians. They want us fighting each other...instead of fighting them, we need to fight them, period, all of us, one unified voice~~!!!!
Fuck Barry, Fuck Putin, Fuck Cameron, Fuck Abe,...etc etc etc
People of the WORLD stand up, unify, and WE ALL CAN WIN!!! The secret cabals days are numbered, they do not have to win, only if we let them!!!
I sense a sweping tide...
Funny, I don't recall issuing a proxy vote so that you could speak for me. Unless you suffer from multiple personalities, I suggest you confine your virulent reaction with the expression "I".
You don't like his calm, documentary-supported style of discussion, okay.
But why is it so important to shut him up? Are his ideas so dangerous that they must not be allowed to see the light of day?
Prove him wrong. Cite your own supporting evidence to support your own contrary claims.
Tarabel, it is ok for ITM to vent, he has a right, he just needs to refocus his attention to the real traitors of humanity!
And just who the fuck are you tarabel you cunt?
You dont agree with me cunt? Then dont read what I write, and dont respond to it you fucking idiot cunt. Is that clear you fucking idiot?
Now fuck off and play with someone that gives a fuck.
Got it?
;-)
So you are free to express your opinion but only those who agree with it are permitted to read and respond.
One suggestion:
Would you be so kind as to include a precis of the information contained within each of your postings so that I will not fall into the error of reading something I may not happen to agree with?
I wouldn't want to anger you and really desire to make this work for everyone.
That kind of condescension will get you in deep shit.
Hmmmm interest rates have risen substantially in Russia with the fall of the Ruble and oil, the Ruble is still issued by a Rotten child BIS affiliated central bank , no? Could this stunt be a semi officially sanctioned PR in preparation for BRICS payment system in May and possible switch to interest free or low interest Russian treasury notes gold or resource backed . I,m no expert ,any of you brilliant Hedgefolks any thoughts along these lines ??
It's not just Westerners who realize they've have been victimized by banks...people everywhere are having the same experiences.
Only a matter of time before someone starts listening, and decides to try and DO something about it. Like, I don't know, plugging in to all that discontent.
"The whole of Russia somehow owes something now to these lickspittle good-for-nothing bankers with nothing to do," Bakshayev was quoted as saying."...I think there are people everywhere saying the same thing, just plug in any random country's name...
Re-hypothecate that !
So invading Russia has never been a good idea ... simply no people to enslave with debt.
You see ZH, those comrades in Russia, have the same dispicable predicament as we do, we need to go after the usery, greed and control, everywhere.
There are no good govts anymore, none, not even Vlad the Lads!
Stop the infighting and we can make a difference, when we turn our attention to the proper cocksmokers -- BAnksters, Policians and power hungry madmen, like Sorazz!!
'Surprise, surprise, surprise!"
Gomer Pyle
Russsian bankers are pricks too.
bankers are pricks - tfify
Alexander Bakshaev will soon find himself fighting in the Ukaraine soon...it's not nice to piss Vlad and his henchmen off. Either that of some goulag shoveling, you guessed it, horsh shit into a boiler that makes steam to run their car factories.
So, behind your keyboard, what are you doing about it? This guy has real balls fella! Start talking to people, do something, instead of making fun of him!
Poor guy, the bolsheviks are going to be pissed.
At least in the USSA we love our usury, pfft barbarian.
/s
Russian Federation parliament member suggests to burn down Kiev using Napalm bombs - this is aired on Russia state sponsored TV channel and people in studio who approve these sick plan cheers and applauses.
http://youtu.be/3WaA_PPE1Xc
You say that like it's a bad thing. Burning out Nazis seems apropos to me. I mean, what's good for the goose-stepper...
Your mind and heart is sick. You should heal your self.
You want to kill people:
http://youtu.be/VBYKR0gxRME
Churchill was right:
“The Fascists of the future will be the anti-fascists.”
“When facism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.” Sinclair Lewis.
Dear man, fascism already have occupied your mind and heart if you want to kill any other human being. Especially families. Civilians.
It's sad that you don't see it.
Churchhill was greatest War Criminal
and you criticize about something said......and then raise Churchill as authority....
yes, he knew about burn people in real.....Dresden
get lost little immoral pissant..
Skip your meds?
paging tarabel
Here's a good example of "calm, documentary-supported style" of prop...uhmmm...discussion.
He plants a video in Russian and provides his own spin to it. In order to argue with that, you need to know Russian language to understand what is being said (with all the nuances), as well as some background of persons involved in the debate.
With my rudimentary knowledge of Russian language and state afairs, I can already pinpoint at least two omissions on his part:
1. He doesn't tell us anythig about this "parliament member" (Zirinovski) and the fact that he is well known for his crazy antics.
2. He doesn't tell us that even this crazy Zirinovski character is talking about precision strikes at Kiev.
1. If it's well know that he is "crazy" and speaks about killing people, occupying and destroying other nation (and he has done that a lot) - why he is invited on TV to speak again and again? Why are people cheering & applauding not booing on him?
2. Zhirinovsky at first said to burn down all Kiev with Napalms -repeated it many times - than acknowledge what he said and corrected in the end... yes precision strikes... How precise is to burn down Kiev with Napalms?
Zhirinovsky can be quite brilliant in knowledge, especially history.
whereas you post nothing worth thinking or discussion
Now that isn't so hard at all, is it?
You take issue with his posting and offer your own analysis. Sounds like a rational discussion to me.
Two points:
1) Since I don't know much about Zhirinovski or the Russian language apart from a few military terms, can you tell me why he is in favor of precision bombing someone else's capital with napalm? Is Russia at war with Ukraine? Is he actually suggesting the use of napalm as a precision weapon?
2) What did you think of his other post with all the Western news articles attached?
But I appreciate the added context and your willingness to discuss with, rather than tyrannically shout down, someone you disagree with.
Sorry, good piece of spin, but not good enough. As you can now see, it's not possible for anybody to debate with our Latvian freedom-hating troll friend who displays a deep and vitriolic hatred of Putin and everything Russian. When challenged he becomes very rude and abusive.
It's fun to watch :-)
Hmmm...
"The Russians should invade Latvia and track down the L00Ns who live in "Riga On Sea"..."
Further deponernt sayeth not.
Good distraction away from the issue.
{shrug}
Agreed Smacker... Tarabel is full of shit. We should be allowed to express ourselves in any manner that suits us.
I think Freedom123 is a cunt and needs no explanation, it is others coice to agree/diss by voting if they think I am a cunt for saying it.
@tarabel
First of all, don't patronize me.
Zirinovski is an ultra-nationalist that caters to his own fan base. That much I know.
However, as I already stated, my knowledge of Russian is rudimentary, so I can't really answer your first point...except to reiterate that "rational discussion" under such conditions is pointless. I can only asume that he used napalm as a hyperbole. At the end of the clip, he probably realized that it was a bad hyperbole, so he retracted.
My point is that most (if not all) of this poster's commens are nothing more than naked propaganda, which makes it unworthwhile of a "rational discussion".
And that should answer your second point, too. (i.e. I didn't bother reading his other post)
@tarabel
Would you asume that aggresive text which goes like this:
"Kiev must be destroyed! Burn Kiev! Not tanks [send there but] Napalms! [Attack] From far away! Burn all Kiev! "
word "Napalm" is hyperbole?