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Ron Paul Warns "US Militarism Will End One Way Or Another..."
Submitted by Ron Paul via The Ron Paul Institute for Peace & Prosperity,
Last week President Obama sent Congress legislation to authorize him to use force against ISIS “and associated persons and forces” anywhere in the world for the next three years. This is a blank check for the president to start as many new wars as he wishes, and it appears Congress will go along with this dangerous and costly scheme.
Already the military budget for next year is equal to all but the very peak spending levels during the Vietnam war and the Reagan military build-up, according to the Project on Defense Alternatives. Does anyone want to guess how much will be added to military spending as a result of this new war authorization?
The US has already spent nearly two billion dollars fighting ISIS since this summer, and there hasn’t been much to show for it. A new worldwide war on ISIS will likely just serve as a recruiting tool for jihadists. We learned last week that our bombing has led to 20,000 new foreign fighters signing up to join ISIS. How many more will decide to join each time a new US bomb falls on a village or a wedding party?
The media makes a big deal about the so-called limitations on the president’s ability to use combat troops in this legislation, but in reality there is nothing that would add specific limits. The prohibition on troops for “enduring” or “offensive” ground combat operations is vague enough to be meaningless. Who gets to determine what “enduring” means? And how difficult is it to claim that any ground operation is “defensive” by saying it is meant to “defend” the US? Even the three year limit is just propaganda: who believes a renewal would not be all but automatic if the president comes back to Congress with the US embroiled in numerous new wars?
If this new request is not bad enough, the president has announced that he would be sending 600 troops into Ukraine next month, supposedly to help train that country’s military. Just as the Europeans seem to have been able to negotiate a ceasefire between the opposing sides in that civil war, President Obama plans to pour gasoline on the fire by sending in the US military. The ceasefire agreement signed last week includes a demand that all foreign military forces leave Ukraine. I think that is a good idea and will go a long way to reduce the tensions. But why does Obama think that restriction does not apply to us?
Last week also saw the Senate confirm Ashton Carter as the new Secretary of Defense by an overwhelming majority. Carter comes to the Pentagon straight from the military industrial complex, and he has already announced his support for sending lethal weapons to Ukraine. Sen. John McCain’s strong praise for Carter is not a good sign that the new secretary will advise caution before undertaking new US interventions.
As we continue to teeter on the verge of economic catastrophe, Washington’s interventionists in both parties show no signs of slowing. The additional tens of billions or more that these new wars will cost will not only further undermine our economy, but will actually make us less safe. Can anyone point to a single success that the interventionists have had over the last 25 years?
As I have said, this militarism will end one way or the other. Either enough Americans will wake up and demand an end to Washington’s foreign adventurism, or we will go broke and be unable to spend another fiat dollar on maintaining the global US empire.
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It used to be that a billion dollars was some real money. Not so much anymore.
When I was a knee-knocker, "trillion" was never heard, even in reference to the cosmos.
So we should all thank the Fed for bringing "trillion" into common usage.
I don't know what's funnier / more tragic.
1. The present absolute inevitablity of major conflict
2. The absolute obliviousness with which we face this rough and slouching beast.
It's 'almost' as if we've been conditioned to accept it . . . our own demise . . .
If Ron Paul's commentaries aren't forever lost in the memory hole, he will go down in history as one of the great protectors of what little was left of this republic. Since the winners of the wars get to write the history, I'm not very optomistic that will be the case though.
Federal Reserve Act, Dec 1913 = 16th amendment = WW I = add central banking cartel steroids here = Industrial War Complex = the religion of consumption = eat your prozac and be mother fucking happy already = ______________________(fill-in-the-blank).
That's what you get when humans control the money supply.
Theres also a 3rd possible outcome.... The world gets sick of our shit and as soon as were broke it will be a nuclear dog pile on America. As it stands now, the world is pretty sick of our shit. Hell....I'm an American and I'm sick of our shit.
Sometimes I wonder how much better the world would be if the passengers on flight 93 had just stayed in their seats and let the plane fly into the Capital.
Yeah, then Mark Bingham coulda phoned his mother and said, "Hi Mom, This is Mark Bingham we're flying into the CapotOl right now so I gotta go"
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Well Old, Cheney may have become President, and shit would be a LOT worse..
Pretty sure it would have been building 7.
In poker this is called going "all in".
The scenario is we beat the shit out of everyone and get our own way.
No winners if someone at the table just pulls the pin and smiles.
Shed Boy
3rd possible
Just stick with the 1st possibility.
Ron Pau
US Militarism Will End One Way Or Another...
Ron, wrong statement. The right statement to wonder is:
When US Militarism goes down so will the world
When I asked Pentagon officials about the nature of war in the twenty-first century, the answer I frequently got was: Read Martin van Creveld of Hebrew University in Jerusalem.
Not because these top brass are enamored of this historian or not because his writing justify their existence but, rather, the opposite: Van Creveld warns them that huge state military machines like Pentagon’s are dinosaurs about to go extinct, and that something far more terrible awaits us” — The Coming Anarchy by Robert Kaplan
http://www.amazon.com/The-Coming-Anarchy-Shattering-Dreams/dp/037570759X/ref=pd_ybh_7
John Robb's insights also corroborate that analysis. Fourth Generation warfare and the end of globalisation.
http://www.amazon.com/Brave-New-War-Terrorism-Globalization/dp/0470261951/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1424133977&sr=1-1&keywords=john+robb
He still believes in American exceptionalism and innovation, though. But that's because the DoD and Stamford still butter his bread.
The first condition for the establishment of perpetual peace is the general adoption of the principles of laissez-faire capitalism.
(1962 ‘The Ultimate Foundation of Economic Science’ p. 137 by Ludwig Von Mises)
Anarchy - Without rulers.
The term has been hijacked to describe a state of violence and chaos that would ensue, if the general tax livestock ceased to obey their all-wise, all-knowing tax farmers. In reality, such chaos and violence, as historical records and the present circumstances clearly demonstrate, result from activities of "The Archy", which must continually remind us how much we "need" it.
Since all the world's "arch-ies" have been nothing more than bloody rivalries between crime families (sometimes inbred), and you are more likely to be murdered by an agent of the "archy" than well....just about anything on earth, only one question remains...
When do we get started on the whole, without rulers thing?
People have been taught to fear anarchy. Also It seems inefficient to define myself according to what I don't belive (anarchist, atheist, etc.) so I've been going with "voluntaryism." I tell people that we're all adults and we can cooperate willingly whereas government is the organization of society by force. I know it's all wordplay and the other side can manipulate meanings as fast as I can adapt but that's my current spiel. If I do mention anarchy and point out that it means "no rulers" I also say that it doesn't mean "no rules." Each individual maintains his right to life, property and self defense. It's simply that rules can only exist in a system with no rulers as rulers always put themselves above the rules.
See you in the trenches and at the afterparty.
It's all-in.
Once you take a seat at the table of this game, you better give it everything you've got. The afterparty isn't going to be nice if you don't win.
Hear, hear!
(Bangs gavel)
I now call this meeting of anarchists to order!
duhhhh!
Or all above ground will be subjected to a radioactive wasteland.
Is that anything like Baba O'Reilly?
2 billion on the ISIS campaign. Instead, take those funds and stuff the Strategic Oil Reserve to the gills with the now cheap product. I'm so tired of the global eternal war. Now I see a CNN poll saying 78% want the US to war with ISIS and 51%, yes, 51% trust Obama as Commander In Chief. This country is so done for.
thamnosma:" CNN poll saying 78% want the US to war with ISIS and 51%, yes, 51% trust Obama as Commander In Chief."
LOL ever been polled -, no me either..polls are as real as pam anderson's tits.
After the 2008 election more than half of the Republicans I talked to said they had voted for Ron Paul in the primary. Polls indeed.
Real or not though, lots of people still likes her tits.
Her toughest critic...
...authorize him to use force against ISIS “and associated persons and forces” anywhere in the world for the next three years.
Fast forward one year...
White Middle Class Conservatives' Secret ISIS Link EXPOSED! Film at Eleven.
today, .01 of 1 % = zhers that could direct the film.
printing terrorism
printing poverty
printing huge distortions
printing zirp and nirp to keep the shit train rolling
printing control til the shtf
except
The strategic Oil Reserve is already stuffed to the gills. EXCEPT WITH PRODUCT AT TOP DOLLAR.
Why do we have to choose? Just print more money. I wonder what happens when a scarce resource (money) is treated as if it's infinite. Hmmm...
Well we have systemic corruption of the US System. The Military Republic has gained massive Spy Agencies, Massive Global Influence, Massive Military Presence, Massive Foreign Influence, Massive Control over NATO & Europe, Appears to be in many Massive Agreements with Saudi Arabia, Israel, UK, Germany, Japan, South Korea,... and has secret organizations to carry out Development of it's Corporate Cabal and Financial Syndicate based on the MIC Strength & Global Trade.
By the time it is too late, and the US Military is defeated, the USA will be a distant memory.
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Hannity show guest Ajit Pai, FCC Commissioner, on President Obama’s Dangerous Plan to regulate the Internet (Good, very Revealing & Educational, 12 min interview)
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/02/16/fcc-commissioner-proposed-fcc-...
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And you could follow that with this video:
The End - The Doors (Nice Vietnam Footage)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ar27ChFKqA
I wanna downvote ya for a Hannity reference, but upvote ya for the Doors.
What to do? Upvote, as an act of faith.
Yeah, I don't listen to Hannity. He is a Politician. Probably paid by the same think tanks as Limbaugh and O'Reily.
we'd prefer not even to see those names you mentioned.
I think it will end only when the world is subjugated to our will. If money gets tight we will start another war to continue. If people line up against it we will declare a state of emergency, curtail civil liberties and/or create false flag events or some other enemy to get the public behind the war.
you done it with ww1 and ww2 already.
The US piggybacked on European turmoil in those cases. Never could have done it without Victoria's grandkids.
It'll end when the Jews leave the US, which is...well...you figure it out.
"Cue The Theme from Exodus," he said in a purely humorous and nonpartisan tone.
1010101010101010101010101010101010101010101. There, that should fund us for another decade. See how easy it is......
But the trillion dollar coin is so nice and shiny.
Easy to counterfeit. lol.
ahston carter worked at the mitre group.
despite his bloviation about financial reform in the military---his track record at mitre and a few other places shows where his loyalties are.
ashton carter is a consummate insider bureacrat.
also, oddly , if you're into conspiracies----he had back surgery JUST in december as he's taking hagels throne. chuck hagle of course stole his own elections by conspiring to own the voting machine company that handled elections in his home state during his senate campaign.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/defense-secretary-nominee-ashton-carte...
The wars maintain petrodollar hegemony that would've otherwise ended back in 1974, when the gold window was closed. The military essentially collects its own paycheque by keeping the freshly printed dollars a viable currency.
Misdirection. What is really bleeding us dry is the Entitlement state. Military expenditures pale by comparison.
you do mean corporate, right?
ebt pales in comparison to hanks tanks.
The military is part of the entitlement state.
"The wars maintain petrodollar hegemony that would've otherwise ended back in 1974, when the gold window was closed."
Gold window closed in 1971. Petrodollar established 1973 (Saudis require payment in dollars) through 1975 (OPEC requires payment in dollars). But your insights about military hegemony supporting monetary hegemony are sound.
Yes, I rounded the date. 1974 was the year of the backbone Saudi agreement without which OPEC wouldn't be possible. To me that was the make it or break it point for the dollar.
Just for fun: What I recall most about the energy crisis of 1974 is this. I owned a copy and played it often
Dickie Goodman - Energy Crisis '74https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaPqzgTc9OE
Its true. I read this on a blimp and an overpass!
Ron Paul ain't no dude on a white horse, he's career wallpaper looter politucian., now we got 2nd gen.
From whom did the $73,000 brbe money come from? Which donor?
http://wonkette.com/558840/mitch-mcconnells-campaign-manager-quits-to-sp...
Not a warmongering socialist statist banker?
BTW how do you get an "accepting bribery conviction" without a bribery conviction?
And (da-da-da!) HE'S RACIST!
In Amerika, Facts are Racist.
We say "Dat Rayciss" whenever we fail, whenever some uncomfortable fact about certain ethnic groups is pointed out (and there are many uncomfortable facts about that ethnic group).
Waits for a social justice warrior to appear, as if by magic, to start hurling insults, calling people racists, and basically not tolerating anything but their own views.
Death to the rayciss!
That leftist progtard cunning stunt wonkette?
GTFO.
Americans are dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb! But this kind of ignorance is really criminal but Americans can't be shamed because they have no shame or decency for that matter.
I don't think americans are dumb in that they don't have the IQ to figure it out...
They simply............................. don't care.
"....maintaining the Global US empire"?
What hubris.
The hubris is the empire, the ignorance is its denial.
It is too late for words.
Nothing will stop the U.S war machine until it is stopped.
And I don't even want to think about the ramifications of what that might mean.
Rock has met immovable object already.
Better start thinking about it.
Yup!
Was talking to my brother the other day, he drank the koolaide and the took his oath for a yankee passport a few months back....did it leagally....idiot.
He was blathering on about conservatives this, the the republicam nominee for this, that cnadidate and this.....
I asked him, "You really think it will make any difference?". "Congress doesn't run anything now, you thing a few people with R behind their name will change anything?". He was a bit taken back by this.....
Squid
Russia can, and WILL stop the US Wermacht.
Hope that the US domestic support for war fades rapidly, with effective transmission of the "no more War" mindset to the Powers that be, before "someone" decides the time is right for "tactical" nuclear escalation, which will then inevitably (and rapidly) lead to a "Strategic Exchange", to use the old Cold War lingo.
Relative in Moscow is giving the current ceasefire two weeks tops - the US so desperately "wants its War", and Mr Poroschenko has very little control of the neo-nazi militias (who also are keen on a spot of "Russian Genocide").
So, peace is shattered, US "has" to provide "lethal aid" (to support the unpopular regime), maybe also covert operatives to "supplement" the raw-as-they-get Conscripts (who will thus be "encouraged" to fight by force), and it'll only be time before a "mistake" is made and something (or someone) ends up on the other side of the Russian border, which will certainly provide all kinds of very legitimate reasons for a real Russian counter-offensive.
Could get quite interesting. . . .
Ron Paul is a sickening nut case. His ideas are wrong for America.
Compassionatetroll:Ron Paul is a sickening nut case. His ideas are wrong for America.
sez Mr 4 weeks 6 days. Go sell stupid somewhere else, ok?
No shit. So many R voters (just another group of useful idiots) said "I like Ron Paul, but his XXX policy is loony".
Yeah. The idea that killing millions of people might cause some of their survivors to hate you is indeed loony.
See in America, we can kill because it's right, and if you don't think so, you're a terrorist. If you don't think that, then you hate America and you hate us for our freedom (to kill innocents indiscriminately).
And we'll kill you too.
/Merica? FUCK YEAH.
Since you are a newbie to your government internet troll job, you can give no specifics as to why his policies are wrong. I know public education, all those years of mindless t.v., not to mention all the crap you have been putting down your gullet, leave you very unprepared to attack Ron Paul.
If the American sheople knew they were murdering innocent women and children in order to maintain said sheople's way of life, would they condone the murder or demand change?
When the tables eventually and inevitably turn they will cry out. "Why us?"
Strasight from a khazar's playbook.
Go watch the end of the movie Three Days of the Condor. Your answer is right there.
That begs the question: if the American people knew that the invasion of Iraq and the removal of Saddam were the prime cause of ISIS and its terrorism, would they tear off George W Bush's dick and shove it down the throat of this father? Or vice versa?
It's pretty clear that WMD were lie and thus far no dicks have been shoved down any throats of the father.
They've been condoning murder for nefarious causes since the day that will live in infamy, part 1.
There are many other infamous days in America's history. Was talking to a fellow American the other day about 9/11. He couldn't remember when it happened.
This is what we are. A nation of dumbfucks ruled by emotion who can't remember anything that isn't on TV right now.
MOAR artificial sweeteners, GMO food, pharmaceutical (good) drugs, and flouride.
Perhaps if I didn't have a defict of those things I'd be able to see things more clearly and actually have meaningful conversation with the typical America Idle.
Or not. I may be too far gone. The truth has rotted my brain and no amount of cannabis, alcohol, or nicotine will set me to rights. Believe me I've tried.
The warfare isn't going to end anytime soon if those fraudulent fucking Tea Party members keep voting "yes" on Obama's war funding packages. Fiscal responsibility my ass!
The Tea Party has always been for "a strong military" and "small government"...
Trouble is you cannot have both at the same time...
Please show me one Tea Party politician that has actually proposed LESS government spending.
I can ask that, since I generally support that type.
Blano:Please show me one Tea Party politician that has actually proposed LESS government spending.
Look at the local level.
rejected:
The Tea Party has always been for "a strong military" and "small government"...
Trouble is you cannot have both at the same time...
Bullshit. Maybe if we didn't have bases in 160+ countries and concentrated on DEFENSE we would have a strong military and smaller government,
Yea, well if you can get it through your fat fucking head that the Tea Party (stop the looting start the prosecuting) was co-opted by the Statist Republicans (who walk lock step with the shit bag Statist Dumocrats) you might have a fucking clue. Look up who founded the modern Tea Party. Seen any Dumocrats or liberals who voted against NDAA or the Patriot act? I didn't think so. So who's running this shit show? A Democrat.
But hey, keep running this idiotic red team blue team bullshit if it makes you think your smart.
There is a third way american military adventurist insanity will end...
Nuclear Incineration, Death and destruction of most, if not all, life on the planet.
No second chances folks... These crazy bastards are either stopped or it's curtains for all.
Our choice.
Or, we could just do that to two cities on the east coast where the financial/legal terrorists live.
The residents of thsoe places live in bubbles that are nothing like America that most of us know. Living next to money printing machines and the mafia Dons will do that I guess.
Excise those two cancerous tumors and American can start to heal. Until then, those two cancerous growths are sucking value nutrients from America and killing it.
Wake up folks. NYC and DC are most certainly NOT America. They are Peolpes Republiks that have taken over this country.
Everyone here appreciates you cutting to the point without openly stating which ethnic group you're talking about. Now THAT is strategy, my friend.
I have never cheered against our nation until recently. What I cheer for is some country, any country to establish a gold backed currency. I would prefer China or Russia to do it because they have the capability to withstand the economic attack by the plutocrats in Washington and Wall Street. If a gold backed currency could be established by a major country it would be the end of our fiat currency which is backed by nothing more then the Pentagon and its war machine. The madness of our politicians and the military industrial complex must end.
It is all insane!
At a time when we are financially weakest we are engaging the Russians and the entire Islamic world (oh, except the good majority who will shower our troops with flowers) with existential threats.
If I did not have more faith I'd think a foreign power had control of the country and was marching us to our doom.
Our only hope is a catatrophic financial failure or the Europeans demanding an end to the nonsense in their own back yard. Even if the dollar does fail it might just catapult the crazies further into this pit of craziness.
ISIS is a product of US, UK and Saudi, but it's turned on them. They were created to cause upset and allow US / UK to wage war were they were previously stopped (Syria). Now Jordan have jumped in and actually appear to be the only ones who have inflicted damage upon ISIS.
Kiev appears to be preparing for another over-throw, this time by the Ukrainians themselves, sick to the back teeth of 'foreign' intevention. Poreshenko has sent his family away, as well as a few 'other' head honchos have theirs.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/#axzz3Rza88FFM
change the word 'lady' for nation; and the word 'buying' to printing.
When America and her henchmen take over the world, Congressman Paul, she won't need any money, she'll just print all the money she needs. And instead of having to pay $6 million dollars a day to float an aircraft carrier group, America will be able to print $120 million a day to get all 20 of her carrier groups out on the seas where they can do Washington some heavy lifting.You mean to say that the Pentagon is currently not financed the way you predict for the future?
Well, fuck me till Tuesday.
Cuz it sure looks like it's running on Monopoly money to me and has been since '74.
"As I have said, this militarism will end one way or the other. Either enough Americans will wake up and demand an end to Washington’s foreign adventurism, or we will go broke and be unable to spend another fiat dollar on maintaining the global US empire."
Either is possible. But a third possibility before that happens is WWIII or something close to it. That is what all sane people must be wary of. And if the elites running Washington/Westminster/Brussels/NATO get out of control, people around the world need to rise up and prevent it.
We're all terrorists now.
Or just drink some more Brawndo and tune into the new episode of Ass or Ow My Balls!
Baitin!
I'm still gonna want my money...
Paul is correct - sooner or later the USSA will choke just due to overreach, it is already cracking at the seams since the "full spectrum dominance" today requires unsustainable resources that even the FED printer cannot supply...
The guy that got re-elected was told, "Just go golf and sign stuff when we need it. You don't need to do anything else." Politiicians have nothing to fear from American citizens. The average American will do nothing to stop any of this.