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'Sceptical' Schaeuble Sounds Off: "I Feel Sorry For The Greeks & Their Irresponsible Government"
Whether this is more economic sabre-rattling or not, Germany's Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble is not making any Greek friends this morning. During a radio interview on Deutschlandfunk, Schaeuble exclaimed that he was against a deal "just for the sake of a compromise," and lashed out that "I feel sorry for the Greeks. The new Greek government behaves irresponsible." As Reuters reports, Schaeuble remains "very sceptical" and nobody wants to give Greece any more money "without guarantees," which is odd because within the last year - trend-chasing asset managers had appeared willing to throw good money after bad at it until now.
- *SCHAEUBLE: GREEK GOVERNMENT HASN'T MOVED
- *SCHAEUBLE SAYS GREEK PROGRAM MUST BE FULFILLED
- SCHAEUBLE SAYS: WHAT I HEARD SO FAR DIDN'T STRENGTHEN MY OPTIMISM ABOUT GREECE
Asked if the Eurogroup of euro zone finance ministers would find a solution for Greece's debt problems, Schaeuble told Deutschlandfunk: "From what I've heard about the technical talks over the weekend, I'm very sceptical, but we will get a report today and then we'll see."
Schaeuble said Germany did not want Greece ot leave the euro zone, but that the new government in Athens had to fulfil the core conditions of its bailout programme and that it was not about finding a compromise deal "just for the sake of a compromise".
"The problem is that Greece has lived beyond its means for a long time and that nobody wants to give Greece money anymore without guarantees," Schaeuble said, noting that Athens had to stick to agreed reforms to become competitive.
Schaeuble added that the new Greek government was behaving "quite irresponsibly" right now and that it was no help to insult others who have supported the country in the past.
Given this sentiment it is hardly surprising that...
A Greek leftist newspaper close to the ruling party in Athens published a cartoon last week which showed Schaeuble in a Nazi uniform.
He is quoted saying "we insist on soap from your fat" and "we are discussing fertilizer from your ashes", references to the fate of Jews in Nazi death camps.
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And finally, Schaeuble leaves us with this...
"as long as the Greek government doesn't want a programme I don't have to think about options."
So to summarize where we stand - Greece "isn't bluffing" and "won't cross red lines" ... and the rest of Europe is saying forget about it then.
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And the Greek feel sorry for the Germans to have such a sellout government willing to give taxpayers money to bankrupt countries to preserve a monstrosity called the EU.
Fuck off
SchaeubleWe are sick of the EU neoliberal/con agenda, of endless debt slavery presided over by merciless banksters. Go shove your phony fiat debt up your stinking bankster ass!
Je suis unidentified leftist newspaper.
Consider adding some bodyguards near your office.
corzine disagrees : greek bonds are good as gold, oh wait mf global kinda didn't work out, but it seems others will gamble at the greek craps table.
wolfgang is a dickhead.
yes, we know you feel sorry ... so did Goebels
if you really feel sorry, pay the reparations what your fathers and grandfathers stole from Bank of Greece and the hunderds of thousands you killed ... and are still killing ... shame on you!
listen to Yannis few years ago ... same views as today ... i kind of admire consistency
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07-hA9DW-Po
I feel sorry for the Greeks, too. And their irresponsible EU/UN/NWO/Banker government.
"stole from the Bank of Greece"? I doubt there was much to steal - Greece was a bankrupt in 90 of the past 192 years. Hope dies last, but it dies. But anyway, I hate to break the news, the deadline for claiming reparations just recently expired in February 1958. But, hey, the clocks always ran a bit slower in Greece, didn't they?
you doubt? and you are ?
you dont have to take my word for it ... there is a Bundestag report of 2012 accounting exactly how much was "the forced loan" ...
you might be in the wrong site, better go back to CNN where it seems you get the news
Well, contrary to the Greeks, I do have a brain of my own and thus I reserve the right to doubt what I believe and what not.
Again, it is time to buy a new clock (just use some of the money that other people are throwing at you): If Greece had any legitimate claims over the peanuts that the Germans allegedly stole from you (which I don't doubt, they probably did), then Greece should have submitted its claims more than 60 years ago. Perhaps it was on an extended lunch break and missed the deadline?
It is "on the wrong side", not "in the wrong side". Perhaps you should watch CNN more often to polish your English? But, yes, I do agree that US media is crap, overly simplicistic, narrow-minded and displays a lack of understanding of the "big picture". I thus never read much more than the headline and resort to other countries' media for more intelligent reporting.
With such mutual trust and respect between the two, hammering out a deal today should be no problem.
They should show up to the meeting "open carry" just to make their point. Plus, they might need to shoot their way back out of the room when it's over.
What a fucking idiot he is feeling sorry for the Greeks when they'll finally be free of the fucking bullshit EU banksters who ruined them!
So now the Greeks can get back to enjoying doing what they do best.. a little fishing, olives, tourism and just fucking off...
And hey Vlad! How bout comin down for a pig roast and some girls just dyin to meet you!
Yeah sure, bring some of your bears to wrestle with..
Schaeuble is under pressure from his Deutsche Bank friends, who want to keep on changing Greece debt into EU-taxpayers debt.
But that doesn´t work, if Greece does not ´take´ the money, of which of course Greece won´t see a cent anyway.
The whole thing is getting fucking boring.
Can these Greek radical fuckers PLEASE
finally pack up and leave us alone?
Good for Schauble and Angie and Jeroen that they (hopefully) won't succumb to blackmail...!
The Germans are folding like a cheap suit. Just to save from being embarrassed from a failed system.
Kicking the can. Cowards.
Soon the middle eastern immigrants will take over the rest of Europe.
Its not a failed system. The ECB and Euro could easily survive a Greek blowout default.
The krauts are just doing the US's bidding. They know a Greek default will be a Lehman like event for the big US centric banks.
Just cut the fuckers off. Why is this so hard? Does anyone really expect giving the Greeks more $$ will make them change their ways? Jeeze....
HEIL HITLER !!
HEIL HITLER !!
Just like Ukraine, this is not a Germany vs Greece issue any more then Ukraine is a Europe vs Russia issue.
In both cases, it is the US making demands on Europe.
Greece could default completely and it would not be the end of the Euro. The Euro system was built for this. Member countries could have defaults without having the hyper depreciation of their currency.
Spitzer, most of what you say is true. But, there is the little problem of the rest of the PIIGS wanting the same treatment, the EU is in trouble my friend, just look at their balance sheet, and now their QE.
It is the same all over the world, the CB's have printed worthless FIAT, and a currency war is in effect, a race to the bottom, which will lead to trade war, then war war...you gotta get past the "isms", it's really about the people, not the idiots in charge! What I mean by that, because I am often misinterpreted, is the people need to find the spine to make wholesale changes to the fucked up systems in place right now!
That's why I think the people in control are going to allow Greece to leave, and then use their control of finance to make it as miserable as possible on the Greeks. Lock the. Out of the bond markets , and use their control of the media to broadcast the Greeks misery all over the international media. If I was an evil motherfucker that's what I would do. Let them leave, and, not letting a good crisis go to waste , make sure everyone sees how miserable the Greeks are now that they have left the glorious EU. The EU may well survive Greece leaving, but if the Italians , Portugal, etc leave, it's game over. So, using my control over the media, I make sure the plebes in the other PIIGS countries get the message loud and clear: this is what happens if you don't obey us. "To encourage the others" as Voltaire would say.
A Greek exit instantly puts Greece in the pocket of Putin. Don't kid yourself. Russia could help Greece. Europe and the U.S. by proxy can't use exit as a threat. But they also can't seem to afford a Greek Iceland style default. You would think that the Fed could just cover it with printing but they are probably worried about their credibility
I still don't see how a bunch of Iceland style defaults in Europe will kill the currency. Indevidual defaults within a zone, similar to muni defaults in the US, does not mean the currency will disappear the next day
"Nein, nein, nein!!!!!!"
it would be funny if putin ran his natty destined for germany through greece
Its time to cut them loose..take your losses and move on.....period
What's your angle Zionist?
You've got another bet on the side? Or maybe you like to "collect" the vig from whomever you dealt your usury debt to?
Zionists - get rid of them, and 99% of the world's problems would be resolved.
If you are railing against the greedy banksters, and whores in govt, the I agree with you!
If you also also are against the Jewish people to have a state, then you are wrong. Zionism is Jewish statehood. I have no problem with giving the Palestinians the same rights. There needs to be justice everywhere, not just in some places.
There are a lot of Jewish banskters, just like there are gentile ones, it is generalizations that can get one into the quagmire!
The US out of the UN and the UN out of the US!
Well, you are wrong, Zionism is a lot more than a "Jewish" State....
And oh, I agree, give the Jewish (I forget, is it a race, is it a religion?) people a home.
Their home is where their home has always been - somewhere in the heart of europe, to and including the land of Khazaria. I mean should I demand "justice" from you Unix, and take occupancy of your home BY FORCE, and then throw you out in the yard, but blockade the yard? Hmm, "justice" indeed....
Now, regarding your statement that there are a lot of Jewish Banksters as there Gentile ones - I don't agree. In fact, there are A LOT more Gentile bankers than Zionist banksters; but the gentile bankers usually run your local Savings and Loans branch, whilst your Zionist counterpart, well, I don't know what you think of Greenspan, Bernanke, Yellen, Fischer, as well as Jacob Lew, Wolfowitz of the World Bank, the Warburgs, the Rothschilds, and the Goldsmiths, before them...
I mean in the Quality of Bankster dept, the Zionists win hands down. Which means, we as a majority of this good earth Lose, and I'm not for dying on my knees.
Fuck Zionism!
I will agree on your list of names and the banking cabal, no differences with you there. Lest you forget, at the end of WWI, Palestine was created by the Brits, so what Syria, Iraq, etc, by whim and farce. Then they helped form the Jewish state, hypocrites all.
However, if one goes back to the ancient times, Israel was a state, overrun by many forces, and in the end, they were scattered to the wind and lost their state.
Let's then focus on the here and now, and tear apart the secret cabals, which I've spoken about many times, even on this thread. They want us to fight each other, to distract us from our mission, to prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law for their crimes!
Alas, Unix, you appear somewhat misguided...
First of all, you keep talking about "they" as if "they" are a radically different entity than the oppressive Zionists and their cohorts.
Second of all, the Jewish people that you're talking about aren't Hebrews - if the majority were - at least you might have an albeit flimsy case to make where you can try to lay claim to Palestine, but you are way off: The Israelis are largely European and Khazars. They treat Hebrews, Ethiopan, and Sepheradic Jews like second, and third class citizens. There's your Cabal right there fella! But even then, it campares not to the treatement of the palestinians.
Third of all, the People of Cannan pre-date your fictional people of Israel. So your "acient time" argument fails - instantly.
Fourth of all, the existance of the current state of israel is a disgraceful terrorist creation of an apartheid state (let's not forget history remember?), and for you to put your faux-voice-of-reason here, on Zero Hedge of all places, won't wash.
But you know what? Now, you've got me interested I'd like to know where you are from - and tell me, do you lay claim to this place of yours to Acient times?
Your secret Cabals aren't so secret fella, We've all been talking about them for years.... And please, return to your hasbara school for further "education", before you try your child ziocon pop-history clap-trap here.
Fuck Zionism.
I didn't know Germany's Finance Minister was a funk fan, you learn something new everyday.
I guess he's not such a sour kraut after all.
so we near the "bring it on" moment. awesome stuff, cause it is the bankers that loose, finally.
a victory for the little guy. making no mistake that some pain dejur on tap, but what other choice is there?
either you are dicked or be the dick.
One thing though...Make sure you slap a visa requirement for travel on the Greeks....there is going to be many of them that will want out for lack of food...and call the UN to start storing supplies for the humanitarian aid that will soon be needed...
Typical Zionist garbage-speak....
I guess Zionist scum like you know all about gentrification and large scale open prisons like Gaza.
Fuck you, and fuck your love for the zionist bankers that are Greenspan, Bernanke, Yellen, Fischer, and the rest of the fucking vampires.
350 billion looking for a savior! ha...
75B in shekels.
Varoufakis' statements are calm, Schäuble's are emotional. As good a reason as any to think the Germans will blink first.
Hmm, a bit like Russia's statements on Ukraine versus the bellicosity of Washington.
DavidC
Schauble's statements are emotional right because those of Varoufakis' are calm. Varoufakis' statements, though calm, unveil the substance of the deceptive status quo system and are therefore brisant. That's what drives them mad.
Schäuble is another psychopath going mad, because things look like they won't turn out as he wants.
I live in Germany.
Schaeuble is well respected and very intelligent. These remarks don't really fit his MO, in my opinion.
I think he's just trying to give the masses a little encouragement in the sense that someone higher up knows what they're thinking. Germans like a strong personality to take control during shaky times (Der Starke Mann) and Schaeuble may just be trying to portray that to keep things calm.
That said, he probably knows they're fucked. He's just too smart to be saying what he is now. He's generally much more analytical.
Maybe it's a Good Cop/Bad Cop type of thing. Mutti will give in if she has to, and people would accept that because they trust her judgement. Schaeuble may be speaking out to make the populace think that someone up there is putting up some kind of a fight.
Again, just my opinion.
So did I for decades.
Schäuble is so intelligent he is actually stumbling over his intelligence, compare with McNamara in the late 60's.
He is a true psychopath.
How a majority in Germany can still respect him is beyond me - and note I once also believed him to be a quite good politician. Now he is the only person I would give a -4 in the Politbarometer.
i just watched by chance about 30 minutes talk they had in Davos with soros, UK, italian, spanish finance minister ... i agree, not a normal guy ... the fact that orborne was playing him (i agree with wolfgang) seems to point that they know he is a psychopath ... almost got into a fight few times with the interviewer, who is just a journalist ... definitely not normal
I am tired of the whole thing, do something or not!
In the past, Greece turned to socialism, which has failed miserably, and they spent too much of other peoples money, it's as simple as that. Now they have elected communists, and think they are going to magically fix their monetary ills with backroom deals, and more free stuff for the masses. Incredible really...I think that defines insanity!
The EU, are the vampire squid, they've 'invested' in Greece, so as to get their evil fangs into them, so as to own them outright.
I think both entities are evil and manipulating...same thing has happened to other countries!
In the US, our vampire squid, is long in the tooth now, and has boxed themselves in, so there is really not much else they can do but moar QE to infinity.
Meanwhile the average Joe in all of these places suffer under oppression, taxation without representation, getting spied on, committing us to wars without our consent, and regulated to the point of not being able to walk down the street without committing a felony!
Downvote me if you will people, it is the naked truth.
Unix i will down vote you, because you ignore the simple fact that a legal printing press to many on ZH does not mean that the fiat Euro's printed is not counterfeit, illusion and has no basis in reality. the debt is illusion.
I understand your downvote, but you missed my point...
All of the governments have gone rougue, via their own CB's...of course it is counterfeit, it is FIAT after all, nothing to back it up but thin air.
I am for the people of all countries, the gov'ts, not so much. Read between the lines if you have to, but your downvote is in error my friend, we are, after all, on the same side!
EDIT: I did not down you, I wish to enlighten, or quite possibly state the obvious, whichever you choose to see. BTW, you can always change your mind/vote, you are FREE to do that, heh!
"I am for the people of all countries..."
this doesnt rim with all that anti socialist talk on the first message ... yeah well
all the "isms" are governmental, they use silver tongues to entrap the people with promises they cannot or do not intend to keep. Critical thinking is key, if you want to follow what I am saying. That is NOT a putdown to you Arius, just a requirement.
All of 'our' governments are corrupt, greedy and control freaks now!
In simpler terms, it is high time we the people stood up for honesty, integrety and sanity. The time for infighting amongst the peoples of the world is long past, the information age should allow this to happen, but people are still stuck defending some "ism" or the other, it's madness!
okay genius ... obviously not in your league ... no offense taken, cest la vie
Nice offhanded slap, indeed you are free to feel as you do, no harm no foul.
I feel sorry for the United Statesians and their irresponsible government...
;-D
some heavy loosers on deck - this could get out of control. calling backstop janet.
still wondering if putin seeing a nice chess move here? hmmm, give that some thought...
I wonder if Mr. Schaeuble will be this apologetic when Russia owns some nice beach front property in Corfu and Mykonos with some military installations on them in that loan package they are getting ready to send the Syriza' government's way here shortly?...
What is a guarantee if you know the people making it have zero ability to keep up their end of the deal?
Fraud.
So, like most of the loans to Greece, this will be yet more fraud.
Europe will go along with anything they think will get past the public and keep the music on for another year.
It is all fraud, but only Greece is held accountable or blamed for it.
pods
it is all fraud because it is created by paper and ink. backed by violence. until something tangible like a piece of shit or gold or even a promise to get laid, it is all fraud...
my wife is tangible -hehe, ha...
Slight counterparty risk. ;)
What good are "guarantees" when everyone knows Greece could never pay back to begin with, guarantees or no guarantees. (Sounds like the US modus operandi.) This whole debacle is about hiding the insolvency of several EU banks and possibly the ECB itself.
fuck you germany
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvl9N9GdraQ
"Fuck you, Malaka!!"
german debt backstopping is the econ war that must end in greece.
beware of the allmighty dollar white knight to the rescue behind the scenes.
talks ongoing for plan c. the world saw this in 08. if we are thinking, they are doing...
the germans blew it. they know it but it is too late.
they lost europe because they wanted europe.
their entire foreign policy is based on push and shove.
except, of course, when it comes to the ussa and israel.
And who will be sorry for the moneychangers?!
Yep...
I feel sorry for the Greeks. The new Greek government behaves irresponsible.
I love this one. The new government are irresponsible! LOL. And the prior governments with which Schaeuble happily cooperated to create this monster in the first place?? Ah, they were the responsible ones.
Ignorance is Strength
RIP George Orwell
I don't feel sorry for them, as they have elected again and again, the very cabal (just different faces, same lies), that has gotten them into this mess. They need to wake the hell up! Everybody does!
Schäuble is right about the greek govt being irresponsible and living beyond its means, but the greek govt is right in the current situation that greeks are fucked no matter what the govt does, so if they are less fucked by fucking the EU then that is the better outcome for greece.
Every government lives beyond its means which is why I rail against government more then the corrupt banking system.
You are correct. Just keep in mind that it is Government that empowers these banks and run national debts for their country. Banks are nothing but loan sharks. And if you deal with the mafia, expect to pay some price. They aren't loaning money for free.
You say:
Every government lives beyond its means which is why I rail against government more then the corrupt banking system.
The truth is that they are two sides of the same coin. The people running both .gov and .bank go to the same parties, know the same people, and are all connected to each other's speed dial. Don't waste your time distinguishing between them.
Well said Papa, I couldn't agree more.
There is a very big differnce.
Politicians are elected by the people of just about every political system, communism to democratic to our supposed republic of the US. They are there, supposedly, to defend the people according to their constitution or mandate.
Bankers are not elected. Their purpose is for profit. And while I am not against profit, I am against the collusion of politicians and bankers to corrupt the system financially and then to get bailed out by the serfs. Thus it is two different coins. Bankers would not have the ability they have without the collusion and permission of government.
And by the way, financial crisis have occurred hundreds of years before the global banking system. Thus it wasn't banking that caused the problem. Yet, government was there all along.
Shall I call you a corrupt banker if your loan your kid some money? Banking isn't the problem. It is there for a good reason. It provides the funding for the entrepreneur to start a business with funding he can't get elsewhere. But government gives banks power beyond usury. For example, why hasn't government put the dick Corzine in prison? We all know he belongs there. Bank accounts are also subject to seizure for bail-ins.
"Bankers are not elected."
Neither are politicians. The last little bit of the process may have the stamp of approval of the population, but the selection process for who is on any given ballot is done through... money. And that money is controlled by... the banks (with the central bank as their political clearinghouse). The third leg of this stool, btw, is the media (my personal candidate for the worst of the three).
Lastly, your final example seems odd to me. It seems to argue better for my case than yours. Why isn't Corzine in prison? Because he's part of the group who controls both .gov and .bank. No?
I actually have personal experience of an acquaintance of mine with a job first in .gov, and later in .bank. It's the same people. We all know about the revolving door. Why do you insist on distinguishing?
Yes politicians are elected. Now you may argue that electeions are rigged or bought and that is your perogative. I won't disagree with that.
Bankers, however, do not go through the election process and scrutiny. Do you know of all the banker's DUI or Bush's? Is a banker's birth country looked at like Obama's?
And as for Corzine, it is up to the Government to punish him. The banking system won't do that. Thus Government is failing in its duties. So as my original point is:
"Every government lives beyond its means which is why I rail against government more then the corrupt banking system."
In other words, government is the problem. Government was around before global banking and all these conspiracies of cabals or jewish evil. Yet, there was slavery and great economic desparaty. So what is your answer for that history? That is why I insist on distinguishing. Because its the truth.
BTw, I up voted you because of the great discussion.
I also remind you that we have the same collusion of Government and other industries such as pharmaceuticals.
And what is the commonality? Again, government.
sessinpo, I believe it is a mutual admiration society of secret cabals. The form of secrecy needs to end!
Unix,
That might very well be true. I have nothing to support or disagree with that statement. It is very interesting how many bankers end up in government positions and vice versa.
Yes, very interesting indeed, follow the money! The Illuminate (a tired word), is leading the cabal, and ALL forms of secret societies need to see the light of day. You may or may not be surprised who constitutes these societies, a truly wicked crew!
This guy is one of those who managed the annexation of Eastern Germany by Western Germany, when some huge and functioning companies (yes, some of them were) where bought for 1 deutsche mark.
Now he is upset because he can't complete his job with the rest of Europe...
FU Schaeuble!
Schäuble is a paid cunt licker for Merkel. Smegley, you are right. The Greeks will be less fucked if they fuck the EU and get out.
Let's see who is gonna do the fucking. It should be interesting. One thing is for certain, the people of Greece have already been fucked 10 ways from Sunday, so they pretty much have nothing to lose.
Let me just say that those who wish to Fcuk the Greeks need to be worried.
Because then the Greeks will bugger you out of shape
Schäuble may have other things to worry about. The CDU got 15.9% in the Hamburg elections. The Deutsche Wirtschafts Nachrichen is using die Götterdämmerung and Merkel in the same sentence.
I feel sorry for.... ME!
When will my silver make me woarlord of the Pacific Northwest.
When you successfully club every other resident of the Pacific Northwest with it.
I have a bunch of silver and so do others. Why the hell do you think your silver should make you a woarlard?
My comment also exposes how man's nature of of woar and power. That is the state of biological beings - to grow, even if that means stepping on someone else's toes.
Hey Schaeuble
If you could not read the writing on the wall as we ZH'ers could a long time ago. means you neither read or see a wall.
Gues you are just a Blankety Blank
I bet somewhere in the bowels of Goldman Sach there are several salesmen trying to dump Greek bonds on you...and they will....because they can lie so well....and the onew they cant..they will call Yellen to help the out again...another AIG bailout...
When you lie to yourself, it's easy to believe the truth.
Yeah Yeah , here we go with the usual ignorant litany of Germans are Nazi monsters. We have just in the last few days passed the 70th anniversary of the greatest mass murder in a single day in all of history. Approximately half a million civilian men ,women,children and babies were burnt alive on Febuary 13th 1945 in the totally non strategic , non militarised German city of Dresden. Thats almost twice as many people as died in German concentration camps (280,000 approx by Red Cross estimates mostly thru starvation and typhus towards the end of the war cauused by, yep , you guessed it , allied bombing of supply routes).700,000 phosphorous bombs dropped in one night , thats almost one and a half for every fried alive civilian . Enough of this victors propaganda and lies coming from media and Hollywood owned by you know joo. If Hitler and the Nazis were monsters well so too was Churchill and the Brits and Roosevelt and the Yanks and certainly Stalin and the Bolshevics.
Why were those people in concentration camps to begin with FMOTL, because they were different, or didn't measure up, yeah, that's the ticket? Over 60 million people died in that conflageration (civillian and military), and you want to blame one side? Your logic is half baked, I'm afraid to say.
All of the "isms" are a form of control, I cannot defend any of them, especially in today's world.
He's not blaming one side at all. I don't know how you can take that inference. What he IS saying is that both sides comitted atrocities but we've beenpropagandized into believing that all the crimes were committed by those evil Germans.
He and I have discussed this further, and have come to an understanding, look to the beginning of the thread, I understand and can agree.
+1000
Glad there's someone else out there not buying in to "victors propaganda and lies coming from media and Hollywood."
The Silent Holocaust.
I read The Silent Holocaust in this link: it is an incredible report.
As the Irish Savant says:
“I don't blame the Allied bomber crews who had little choice when carrying out their grisly task. The true criminals were Churchill and his 'scientific advisor' Frederick Alexander Lindeman, This German-born psychopath seemed obsessed, like so many of his Jewish co-ethnics, with the literal extermination of the German people. He also demonstrated that extraordinary Jewish capacity to appear from nowhere and miraculously land at the right hand side of the seat of power. And Lindeman had a cunning plan. He had calculated that that every 40 tons of bombs dropped on built-up areas would "make 4,000 to 8,000 people homeless." And, as historian Max Hastings drily observed "[h]oped to create a nation of refugees, and no doubt also a good many corpses under the rubble, although he was too genteel to say so."
In the years following the end of WWII--termed "history's most terrifying peace" by Time Magazine-- and the trial of surviving German leaders conducted by the victor, the Western press has been the constant spokesman for the Zionist view of history, the constant drumbeat of Holocaust stories, the intimidation of any individuals who do not repeat constantly the “never again” mantra.
And, now, we have a 93-year-old former Auschwitz death camp officer who will go on trial in Germany on April 21,2015, charged with at least 300,000 counts of accessory to murder…
This act of war cowardice on Dresden and above trial underscore an importance that is still in our modern life being ignored: the power and the horror does not lie only with the German people.
Consider developments after WWII:
In 1947, a defeated, divided, truncated, occupied Germany was a mass of rubble, its economy a desperate scratching for subsistence.
Although the Marshall Plan enabled Germany’s people to rebuild a free society and a free economy, a predecessor blueprint for genocide became the on-going principal occupation policy directive – a policy that aimed at the destruction of a nation’s people. It was the Morganthau Plan, drawn up by America’s wartime Zionist Secretary of the Treasury, Henry Morganthau, and his closest advisory, Harry Dexter White (a member of a Communist espionage ring in Washington while he served as Assistant Secretary of State).
It aimed at the permanent destruction of Germany’s industrial heart and the consequent death through starvation and disease of millions and tens of millions of Germans.
The conservative newsletter, Review of World Affairs, quotes the plight of the German people after the war as follows from a confidential memorandum prepared by an eminent European economist:
“Since the end of the war about 3,000,000 people, mostly women and children and over-aged men, have been killed in eastern Germany and south-eastern Europe; about 15,000,000 people have been deported or had to flee from their homesteads and are on the road. About 25 per cent of these people, over 3,000,000, have perished. About 4,000,000 men and women have been deported to eastern Europe and Russia as slaves….” Quoted by Sen. Homer Capehart in speech before U.S. Senate, Feb. 5, 1946.
Dr. Lawrence Meyer, executive secretary of the Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod, after a tour of Germany at the time stated: “About 16,000,000 German refugees east of the Oder are being deported from their homes. It has been estimated that already 10,000,000 have been driven out. The human tragedy and suffering caused by this ’Volkswanderung’ are unparalleled in history…”
An authentic eye-witness reported…
“A large barge is slowly being towed across the Oder River. In it, lying on straw, are 300 children ranging from 2 to 14 years of age. There is hardly a sign of life in the whole group. Their hollow eyes, their swollen bellies, knees, and feet are telltale signs of starvation. These are merely the vanguard of hundreds of thousands—millions of homeless, shattered, hungry, sick, helpless, hopeless human beings fleeing westward – west of the Oder and Neisse rivers.
“A trust in God—in his goodness and mercy—these are the only hope of Germany today. And thank God in many there is still faith in God against which the gates of hell have stormed in vain during the past decade.” (Capehart)
Schaeuble can't get over the idea of Greece being truely democratic. Use of free money, fraud, extortion to control politicians to indenture populations into slavery may not work anymore. Greece is just the beginiing.
Best wishes Yanis.
hmmm, Greece was ALSO "democratic" when the entitlement-sucking proletariat REPEATEDLY voted in the politiicans who borrowed the HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of euros and paid them out to the proletariat in HUGELY bloated government do-nothing-useful jobs, absurdly generous salaries and retirements, etc, etc.
IF the "democratic" Greeks did want the mountain of debt,
THEN they should have voted against the borrowing and the living on borrowed money.
BUT they did not - so now they MUST pay back the loans or suffer the consequences.
Greece is providing a very good lesson for all socialist parasites who want to borrow other people's money, spend it on high-living, then refuse to pay it back. Many other countries in the pipeline.
What you write is utter rubbish. Please read Prober's comment below.
Perhaps your enthusiasm for Prober's comment is misguided. What if Prober's comment is total bullshit?
The glaring reality of the most recent election in Greece is that
IF the proletariat masses, who control election outcomes due to volume of votes, actually wanted to vote out previous regimes who were doing the reckless borrowing & spending,
THEN they could have, just as in their last election they voted out the party that was working on repaying the debt and voted in the party that wants to convert the debt to a gift.
That is a fact that is irrefutable and undeniable.
BUT the Greeks were VERY happy getting and spedning the "borrowed" money that they believed was FREE - they took action to change the government ONLY AFTER they were presented with the costs of repaying the debt.
FUCK ALL SOCIALIST THIEVING PARASITES TO HELL !!!!
Prober, it is good to see another critical thinker on board, and I agree with you 1000%!!! Keep up the good work.
As a side note, we are all in this bucket together, have patience, be positive (even in the face of barbs and threats), we need to edumacate as many people as possible to gain consensus! At that point in time we could have ONE VOICE of opposition to the cornies in charge right now, then throw them out on their ears, and prosecute to the fullest extent of the law for their crimes!
Democratic you say? You mean the majority rules kind? Yet they elect socialist after socialist, to continue the insanity? You must be joking sudzee?
Sch. obeys orders, coming from his masters in Tel Aviv. Not more and not less. Poor guy, Germany is still under the occupation authority of Zio/US Empire. (US is at the second place, US is nothing else, just a tool of Tel QAviv and the bankers.
Leave the Euro, Greece. Save your country.
At Unix , did I say anyone deserved to be in a concentration camp ? I am simply pointing out the victors propaganda of German bad , american , Brit , Soviet good ,that everyone seems to believe. No all the sociopaths in charge were totally evil and yes you are right this was probably the most evil period in all human history . But to continue blaming and guilt tripping modern Germans is unjustified
I have NEVER blamed modern Germany for anything my friend, I was replying to your concentration camps and allied bombing killing them, that is all.
Look throught the thread, you will find me an equal opportunity basher of all the "isms" of government that is now corrupt to the bone, and the greed of the bankster community.
And I never inclined you agreed with any of it.
Peace Unix , I,m with you , just tired of the constant theme of evil like Hitler , 6 million jooos etc never any mention or pumping sympathy from Spielberg Hollywood and corp media of the mass murder of estimate 2 million german POW,s by the jew Eisenhauwer, or the Soviet/American officially sanctioned and encouraged mass rape and butchery of damm near every woman in occupied Germany. If instead of the victors lies and spin we had the balanced truth , then maybe people would outright reject war always
Peace brother, I am bound and determined to stop "we the people" from infighting, it is a big distraction! They want us at each others throats, so we are not on theirs! And I am speaking to the whole world, not just Americans!
What a deluded, hate-filled, clueless, lying, utterly-obedient, and non-thinking minion of evil you are.
And those are your good points.
Is it just me or does Gauleiter Schaeuble bear a striking resemblance to Major Arnold Toht? Except for the wheelchair, of course...
So if there's a Grexit, then Spain and Italy follow.
And if Greece stays in the EU because of concessions made, then Spain and Italy will say "where's our concessions?"
Let the shit show begin!!
I believe that's "skeptical"
I just love the German/Shaeuble/ECB position;
1. "YOU MUST CONTINUE TO TAKE MORE MONEY FROM THE TROIKA OR WE WILL NOT LET YOU HAVE ANY MORE MONEY"
and
2. "THE GREEK GOVERNMENT IS IRRESPONSIBLE".
No contradictions in our position, Nosirreeeee. Everything is perfectly logical.
No, it is "hardly surprising" that a delusional left wing would lash out at a democratic politician, comparing him to a Nazi, that we are all too accustomed to already. Of course it says bucket loads more about the left wing than it does about their targets ..