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Forget Hacking - CIA Accuses Russia Of "Manipulating The World's Weather"

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America appears to have found something else to blame the Russians (or North Koreans) for... The Weather. As The Daily Mail reports, CIA chiefs fear hostile nations are trying to manipulate the world’s weather... seriously.

So-called "geoengineering techniques" range from cloud seeding, in which chemicals are sprayed by planes trigger rainfall, to shooting mirrors into space to reflect sunlight and cool the Earth.

 

But as The Daily Mail reports, a leading academic has told how he got a mysterious phone call asking whether foreign countries could be triggering droughts or flooding...

Professor Alan Robock, from Rutgers University in New Jersey, said:

 

"Consultants working for the CIA rang and said we’d like to know if someone is controlling the world’s climate would we know about it?

 

Of course they were also asking - if we control someone else’s climate would they then know about it."

The professor is one of many scientists from around the world are actively looking at manipulating the weather as a way of combating climate change.

Professor Robock told the callers that any attempts to meddle with the weather on a large scale would be detectable.

 

However, he told the American Association for the Advancement of Science’s annual conference in San Jose, that the weather has been weaponised in the past.

 

During the Vietnam War, US scientists tried to increase rainfall to hamper the enemy’s progress by spraying particles into the clouds.

 

And the CIA seeded clouds over Cuba "to make it rain and ruin the sugar harvest".

 

Asked how he felt when he got the call, the professor said: "Scared."

 

"I’d learned of lots of other things the CIA had done that haven’t followed the rules and that wasn’t how I wanted my tax money spent."

"I think this research has to be open and international, so there isn’t any question of using it for hostile purposes."

 

To add to the intrigue, the CIA is believed to have helped fund a major report into geoengineering.

Published last week by the prestigious US National Academy of Sciences, the report mentions the ‘US intelligence community’ in its list of sponsors, alongside organisations such as Nasa.

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He added that the tension created by any large-scale meddling in the climate could escalate to such an extent that it would end in all-out war.

The professor said: ‘If one country wants to control the climate in one way, and another doesn’t want it or if they try to shoot down the planes...if there is no agreement it could result in terrible consequences.’

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So is the US economy now at the mercy of some cunning geo-engineer in Moscow seeding snow clouds over the Midwest and crushing GDP in the process?

 

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Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:35 | 5795540 Thirst Mutilator
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So now we know what the CIA has been working on recently.

 

"Over there! The WARRIOR did it! Warriors shot Cyrus!"

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:38 | 5795558 Usurious
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Whoever smelt it dealt it.....

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 19:24 | 5796163 Bemused Observer
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Waaaaariors! Come out and play-YAYYY!

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:37 | 5795544 JustObserving
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CIA Accuses Russia Of "Manipulating The World's Weather"

Next they will accuse Russia of hacking every hard drive ever made in USA, Taiwan, Japan and Korea.

Since the beginning of the week, the three most influential mass circulation newsmagazines of the United States, Britain, and Germany—Time, The Economist, and Der Spiegel—have published cover stories that combine wild accusations against Vladimir Putin with demands for a showdown with Russia.

The most striking and obvious characteristic of these cover stories is that they are virtually identical. The CIA has scripted them all. The stories employ the same insults and the same fabrications. They denounce Putin’s “web of lies.” The Russian president is portrayed as a “depraved” mass murderer.

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/07/30/pers-j30.html

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:37 | 5795577 Usurious
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''David Cohen, whose appointment as deputy director of the CIA was announced in January, will be the highest-ranking Jew now in the spy agency’s hierarchy''

Read more: http://forward.com/articles/214670/david-cohen-becomes-the-cias-financial-batman/#ixzz3S2aJOZ6e
Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:40 | 5795594 Ignatius
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Finally, some good news.

/s

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:47 | 5795654 Usurious
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Asymmetries....Asymmetric...Asymmetry

 

francis was correct

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:47 | 5795659 BigJim
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Relax, I'm sure he has absolutely no divided loyalties.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:10 | 5795780 ILLILLILLI
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Yes, each of his passports are in different pockets.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:20 | 5795833 Urban Redneck
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Doesn't matter if he does have divided loyalties.  The SIS doesn't like Jews, and the four Congressionally "approved" positions at the CIA are largely ceremonial and closely watched by TPTB.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:39 | 5795548 VooDoo6Actual
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Risible & reductio ad absurdum. Bring in more Clowns ! "The Hills are alive with the Sound of Agitprop" !

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:33 | 5795549 FieldingMellish
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Pot meet kettle

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:35 | 5795553 SofaPapa
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The arrogance of powerful men knows no limits.  TEOTWAWKI is calling...

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:35 | 5795555 Ignatius
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Full court press on the propaganda.

If the US/CIA is accusing Russia, then bets are on that US/CIA is already attempting it.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:41 | 5795607 Haager
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At this point I can assume that tests were successful and they're actually working on a 'useful' program.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:35 | 5795559 JimmyRainbow
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they meant da social climate ......

the microclimate between states and villages

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:36 | 5795567 Bunga Bunga
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Putin farts.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:38 | 5795583 Ignatius
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It's called evidence.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:43 | 5795611 HonkyShogun
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Obama queefs.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:36 | 5795569 ABG LINE
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LoL, Chemtrails are real and they think I'm crazy, Lol!

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:36 | 5795570 waterwitch
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Bullish for Ag

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:36 | 5795571 astoriajoe
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Palm moving rapidly to forehead!!! FFS!

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:37 | 5795579 Hoi_Polloi
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Mr. Putin:

Could you send some sunshine my way? It's awfully cold where I live right now.

 

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 19:21 | 5796144 Bunga Bunga
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Bostonians, now you can blame Putin.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:38 | 5795585 asierguti
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HAARP anyone?

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:41 | 5795609 Tsar Pointless
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I was hoping people wouldn't HAARP on that in this comment section...

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:38 | 5795586 p00k1e
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Explains today's 'Crash' in silver prices.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:39 | 5795589 Silverhog
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This is just the start. Wait till they tell you Putin is the cause of Al Gore's obesity. 

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:56 | 5795711 waterwitch
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I thought everyone knew that.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:39 | 5795591 Haager
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First choice trick: Blame an opponent for actions you are going to do, and remind the world constantly of earlier accusations made if some people notice irregularites or would like to point a finger on you. Don't forget to blame critics as foreign agents, trolls or conspirational theorists.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:21 | 5795839 Alvin Fernald
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"Blame an opponent for actions you are doing"

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:39 | 5795593 MrMorden
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So...we have "global warming, and the Russians are actively cooling the Earth. Are the Russians not then the heroes of all humanity?!?

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:40 | 5795599 lasvegaspersona
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Whoa!!!!

So all the crazies on Youtube ranting about HAARP are the sane ones???

Next  thing they be saying they can trigget earthquakes and hurricanes...and Jim Willie will be right.

I'm losing my underpinnings. I don't know who to believe. 

but...I'm off to check my bigfoot traps....hope the grays didn't get there first, I promised the Annanuki I'd give them one to breed a new race (for a different planet though so no worries).

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:38 | 5795942 PTR
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He left no stone unturned on that one.  Oy.

 

 

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:23 | 5795853 Alvin Fernald
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If you look up what the Japanese heads were saying just before that massive tsunmai they had, it would shed some light on the level of insanity at work here.

Wed, 02/18/2015 - 08:41 | 5798037 Refuse-Resist
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IKR.  So just turn on your TV and listen to the soothing truths emitted there.

The authoritative commentators on TV will show you how 100,000 tons of steel can be heated to melting by a 900 degree F fire lasting 45 minutes, how a building that wasn't hit by a plane can collapse into its own footprint because of the fire - nevermind Larry "Pull it" Silverstein;' I'm proving how a 120 boy can shoot his way into a school, and in 90 seconds establish a 90+% kill rate with no training, and how a bomb detonated in a crowd of people can shred their clothes without injuring the skin beneath, I'm buying both gene Rosen's book and I have a Boston Strong TSHirt to go with car/window US flag thing and my yellow support the troops magnetic ribbon.

 

After that I'm going to show how Common Core works, how Obamacare works, how the Income tax is voluntary, how the Patriot Act protects us, how the DHS catches the evil terrorists, and how our troops defend our freedom.

/sarc

If you ask me, the shit you (and your sheople brethren) believe is far less believable than your list.  Or at least as fantastical.

 

Where's that skittle shitting Unicorn I keep hearing about?

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:40 | 5795602 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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China has used cloud seeding for quite some time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:41 | 5795603 Father Lucifer
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Yes, the lunatics are running the asylum.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:58 | 5795718 I woke up
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Obama on someone in the CIA to push the climate theme

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:41 | 5795605 css1971
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Really? The CIA just pulled on their tinfoil hats and jumped the shark?

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:41 | 5795608 One And Only
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The CIA must be full of blacks now.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:42 | 5795614 Conax
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Angels don't play this HAARP.

http://www.haarp.net/

No mention in the article?

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:43 | 5795623 Karl von Bahnhof
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True!
my nose is full of snow!

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:43 | 5795625 no1wonder
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Here's another one. By the infamous "Bellingcat" gang (remember their "proof" of Assad gasing his own people?).

This one is propagated by The Guardian:

"Russia shelled Ukrainians from within its own territory, says study

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/17/russia-shelled-ukrainians-from-within-its-own-territory-says-study

 

 

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:43 | 5795628 Sanity Bear
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Projection is a classic symptom of a psychopath. It's also US foreign policy.

 

https://www.psychopathfree.com/content.php?166-Psychopaths-and-projection

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:09 | 5795777 Frank N. Beans
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good one.  in the '50s and '60s the US thought we were way behind in the nuclear warhead race with the Soviets; turned out later it was the US that was way ahead. 

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 19:38 | 5796250 logicalman
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Becuase US foreign policy is produced by psychopaths.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:44 | 5795634 jmcadg
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Ok gotta bite. US Haarp caused Fukushima?

Nah, Obama is a nice fella, just shit at golf.
Putin, he's an evil bear wrestler, it's all his fault.

Just off to crack one off because I'm fuck bored of this shit.

Do one you fuckin' propogandist cunts.
Lol the fuckin' Daily Mail - government tool.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:08 | 5795774 IndianaJohn
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Inspiring! I'm going down to the cellar with my cup. Ain't no cemtrails down there.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:44 | 5795637 goneYonder
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The Russians have been spraying lines all-the-hell over the skies in my neighborhood. I mean, sometimes I'll see 10 or 20 lines in the sky, sometimes crosshatched, which then slowly spread to cover the entire sky.

Although they look nothing like normal contrails I grew up seeing from 2 international airports and Navy bases nearby as a kid, I knew they were simply vapor trails because the MSM and government said they were. My eyes must have been deceiving me, I figured.

But, now that the CIA says the Ruskies are spraying, that must be what I'm seeing. Sometimes it's hard to remember what I'm supposed to think, but luckily I can depend on the CIA to set the facts straight.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:45 | 5795646 agent default
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Do they get their intel from Alex Jones now?  Might as well.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:47 | 5795656 The Reich
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Go invisible chemtrails!

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:47 | 5795658 Joebloinvestor
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Don't look at us, look at them!

You do know that if you have ONSTAR, your car is bugged.

 

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:49 | 5795673 slightlyskeptical
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He who smelt it, dealt it.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:49 | 5795676 neuronius
Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:50 | 5795681 giggler321
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<tin hat on>Funny they have to ask some prof since they've been terraforming with strontium and aluminium sold off to the sheep as chaff; not to mention the pushing of same gender relationships in prep for their arrivial; after all if you can get religious followers whos texts to-do lists blatantly reject it - then your half way there; where ever that is</tin hat on>

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:51 | 5795684 Lumberjack
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They might be partially right, If Russia shuts off the gas it gets pretty god damn cold really fast.

 

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:51 | 5795685 kchrisc
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"They lie about everything. Why would they lie about this?"

The banksters need to repay us.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:52 | 5795687 slightlyskeptical
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damn duplicate

 

 

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:53 | 5795698 semperfi
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old news....

"Others [terrorists] are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves… So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations…It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our [counterterrorism] efforts." *

Secretary of Defense William Cohen at an April 1997 counterterrorism conference sponsored by former Senator Sam Nunn. Quoted from DoD News Briefing, Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen, Q&A at the Conference on Terrorism, Weapons of Mass Destruction, and U.S. Strategy, University of Georgia, Athens, Apr. 28, 1997.
 
http://www.cheniere.org/satellite%20radar%20anomalies/index.html

http://www.cheniere.org/clouds/index.html

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:10 | 5795784 semperfi
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there's worse weapons than weather weapons - and all major nations now possess them including USA

http://www.cheniere.org/images/weapons/index.html

this is why nukes are now obsolete - they can be rendered inert very quickly

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:48 | 5795946 semperfi
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Now that the finger pointing is on like donkey kong this is only going to ratchet up and all the mutually known secrets that they've been hiding from the public 'for their own good and to prevent a panic' are going to start coming out.  Expect a 9/11 revelation in the not too distant future - Putin has Snowden as a huge trump card.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:55 | 5795704 1stepcloser
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Talk about compartmentalized!  Hey CIA, shake your own tree first, dildos.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:55 | 5795707 IridiumRebel
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Did you know that Russia eats babies? It's true.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 17:56 | 5795709 nakki
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Its all the Russians fault. Perhaps, instead of killing us with that polar ray gun they can help the Japanese freeze those pesky reactors. Oh, I'm sorry, Fukushima must be taken care of cause I don't hear jack about that anymore.

Those pictures at the top remind me of the comical stuff they put out about those hidden caves in Tora Bora. You know the ones that looked like something out of Dr. No. Pretty funny stuff.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:14 | 5795721 JuliaS
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Russia regularly uses missiles to disperse clouds. I've seen and even photographed them being launched when I was doing research for NASA in early 90's. Reusable brown and green carbon fiber rockets 6-8 feet long and about 12" in diameter. Mobile launchers capable of sending about 16 of them up in one go. Cloud seeding and things like that were never a secret. China used missiles to clear the air for their last Olympics. The media didn't give 2 shits about it. There is no conspiracy. I'm pretty sure similar weather control methods are employed here in the US as well. Too bad they haven't figured a way to dissolve tornadoes, or disperse idiots who keep building houses along the tornado valley.

Exotic weather control? Well, we've had mad scientists cry wolf for many decades. There's a lecture online from the 70's of someone trying to convince people Russians were behind all the earthquakes and volcano eruptions.

Let me assure you - research is being done by most countries on the subject of weather control for the purpose of agriculture. So far they have only figured out practical methods for eliminating hail and causing rain. Everything else either does not work or costs too much and delivers too little.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:33 | 5795914 Alvin Fernald
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In the US it is called militarization of the sky. The Airforce calls it Owning the Weather by 2025.
Nice try.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 21:02 | 5796691 TeethVillage88s
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Yeah, if the Military had a weather modification program going it would be secret like everything else. And we would not know about it. I can't prove a negative. I just assume with all the Planes that go up to record weather data for the Military it is natural. Just like having Space weapons or space defense weapons. They would be secret, so I wouldn't know. Can prove a negative.

Assume all major powers have or want some kind of weather program of various success.

I still don't know why contrails last for over an hour and while dispersing a cloud forms on consecutive & parallel air corridors... leading to overcast skies. Except for Christmas and New year... where there didn't seem to be any air traffic to speak of.

US Spy agencies were plagued with leaks after the CIA was formed. So it is reasonable that agencies within agencies is a kind of way to compartmentalize information and plans. Now of course MSM is like an agency which also hold back information. Turns out Journalism is very like government work.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 21:15 | 5796761 JuliaS
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And Al Gore calls it "easy money".

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:01 | 5795724 Hope Copy
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A.  Then why is SILVER so low in price?

B.  pot calling the kettle black

[This is a phrase that states that the person you are talking to is calling you something that they themselves are (and generally in abundance).

This comes from old times when pots and pans were generally black and kettles were generally metallic and reflective. Therefore the pot sees its black reflection in the kettle and thinks that the kettle is black...  http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pot+calling+the+kettle+black ]

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:01 | 5795731 Global Douche
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Really? My electric bill has an unused column for a Carbon Tax (I know it's already imposed in a few nations) but the REAL cause is now known? Why not just send them Russians the bill and ditch the Tax?

I know... "Follow the money trail" - Rush Limbaugh

<banging head on keyboard>

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 19:44 | 5796283 logicalman
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Tax is just theft.

The 'excuses' for taxation are just that, excuses. Almost anything can be made taxable.

Over the years there have been chimney taxes, window taxes, beard taxes and a whole host of other 'creative methods' of theft.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 21:02 | 5796698 Global Douche
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Here's what truly irks me though.. The trading of carbon credits. Early in 0bama's presidency, he reportedly gave these to various crony supporters. I am at a loss to figure out HOW the carbon tax will even be utilized, but the Big $pender$ will figure that out.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:03 | 5795741 doggis
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HAHAAA!  the winding staircase of truth - did the CIA just admit they are in fact NOW controlling the weather. ??? overthrowing countries and destabalizing the world must have become uber boring.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:09 | 5795765 SHRAGS
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Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025

A Research Paper Presented To Air Force 2025 August 1996 http://csat.au.af.mil/2025/volume3/vol3ch15.pdf ] <--- .af.mil

Propaganda 101, accuse your opponent of the very thing you are doing.

 

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:08 | 5795768 Herdee
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The Alberta,Canada Government and insurance companies in Alberta have been paying to seed the clouds during summer months for years now.The older planes take off from the Calgary International Airport when storm clouds are seen rising east of the Rockies in the "chinook areas".They tell us it is to stop hail,and it seems to work but everyone knows that the type of weather that comes over the Rock Mountains in the Calgary to Edmonton areas has an effect on the rest of the continent.You change the clouds and stop the hail and it changes what happens eventually in the east.That's one example.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 19:45 | 5796298 logicalman
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The flapping of a butterflies wings.....

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:08 | 5795770 AZLagun
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Oh..... so let me get this straight.  Its only a concern when someone other than the USSA is spraying chemtrails and participating in geoengineering.  The hypocrisy of this country knows no bounds.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:13 | 5795773 Lea
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They are totally desperate. The accusations don't even have to make sense anymore. One thing I wonder, is that whether the clowns accusing Russia in such preposterous ways end up in straitjackets or laughing to tears at the baloney they write.

Next, they'll be saying that Roosha is responsible for the Zone 51 mystery, alien abductions and implants, fluoride in the American water system, The Illuminati Zio-Nazi Red Shield Banskters That Strangle America, Monsanto GMO seeds in American fields, the porn addiction epidemic, the soaring figures of obesity and the neocon-liberal disregard for the US Constitution. In Washington, all the Congressmen will wear tinfoil hats for their thoughts not to be picked by the Rooshans.

We've gone a step further: before, one of the alphabet soup agencies tricks was to write phony pro-soviet pamphlets so outlandish they made the USSR look idiotic. Today, the same alphabet soup agencies write pro-American stuff that makes America look idiotic.

 

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:15 | 5795798 SHRAGS
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Cognitive Infiltration Cass Sunstein http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1084585

Abstract:      

 

Many millions of people hold conspiracy theories; they believe that powerful people have worked together in order to withhold the truth about some important practice or some terrible event. A recent example is the belief, widespread in some parts of the world, that the attacks of 9/11 were carried out not by Al Qaeda, but by Israel or the United States. Those who subscribe to conspiracy theories may create serious risks, including risks of violence, and the existence of such theories raises significant challenges for policy and law. The first challenge is to understand the mechanisms by which conspiracy theories prosper; the second challenge is to understand how such theories might be undermined. Such theories typically spread as a result of identifiable cognitive blunders, operating in conjunction with informational and reputational influences. A distinctive feature of conspiracy theories is their self-sealing quality. Conspiracy theorists are not likely to be persuaded by an attempt to dispel their theories; they may even characterize that very attempt as further proof of the conspiracy. Because those who hold conspiracy theories typically suffer from a crippled epistemology, in accordance with which it is rational to hold such theories, the best response consists in cognitive infiltration of extremist groups. Various policy dilemmas, such as the question whether it is better for government to rebut conspiracy theories or to ignore them, are explored in this light.
Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:34 | 5795926 Minder For Priapus
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ie trolling

Wed, 02/18/2015 - 01:21 | 5796321 SHRAGS
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No no, its much more than trolling, its active creation & nurturing of multiple alternative & seemingly plausible conspiracies. It saps resources & fragment those who don't believe the "official" conspiracy theory. Karl Rove said it best: Reality based community http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality-based_community

The aide [Rove] said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." ... "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.

Sustein took it to the next level, multiple, simultaneous realities.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 20:02 | 5796355 IridiumRebel
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The first challenge is to understand the mechanisms by which conspiracy theories prosper? 

Troll brigade unleashed here and on other sites where the "conversation" isn't heavily managed?

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 19:47 | 5796316 logicalman
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Stop it, you'll give them ideas!

There might be something in there that they haven't thought of.

Next, they'll be saying that Roosha is responsible for the Zone 51 mystery, alien abductions and implants, fluoride in the American water system, The Illuminati Zio-Nazi Red Shield Banskters That Strangle America, Monsanto GMO seeds in American fields, the porn addiction epidemic, the soaring figures of obesity and the neocon-liberal disregard for the US Constitution. In Washington, all the Congressmen will wear tinfoil hats for their thoughts not to be picked by the Rooshans.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:14 | 5795802 trader1
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Laser-induced plasma cloud interaction and ice multiplication under cirrus cloud conditions

Abstract
Potential impacts of lightning-induced plasma on cloud ice formation and precipitation have been a subject of debate for decades. Here, we report on the interaction of laser-generated plasma channels with water and ice clouds observed in a large cloud simulation chamber. Under the conditions of a typical storm cloud, in which ice and supercooled water coexist, no direct influence of the plasma channels on ice formation or precipitation processes could be detected. Under conditions typical for thin cirrus ice clouds, however, the plasma channels induced a surprisingly strong effect of ice multiplication. Within a few minutes, the laser action led to a strong enhancement of the total ice particle number density in the chamber by up to a factor of 100, even though only a 10?9 fraction of the chamber volume was exposed to the plasma channels. The newly formed ice particles quickly reduced the water vapor pressure to ice saturation, thereby increasing the cloud optical thickness by up to three orders of magnitude. A model relying on the complete vaporization of ice particles in the laser filament and the condensation of the resulting water vapor on plasma ions reproduces our experimental findings. This surprising effect might open new perspectives for remote sensing of water vapor and ice in the upper troposphere.

 

http://www.pnas.org/content/110/25/10106

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:18 | 5795817 Youri Carma
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Breaking: Air Force Chemtrail Whistleblower Exposes Geoengineering http://www.infowars.com/breaking-air-force-chemtrail-whistleblower-exposes-geoengineering/

Air Force veteran Kristen Meghan says she has first-hand, insider knowledge of hazardous materials like aluminum oxide, barium and strontium being brought onto one Air Force basethe same chemicals and metals that have for years been found by “chemtrail” researchers in testing samples.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:37 | 5795937 Alvin Fernald
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She still has not presented any bills of lading or any verifiable documents.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 21:03 | 5796620 Youri Carma
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Chemtrails, Here is your PROOF 100% Real "MUST WATCH" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5is16A8pfw

U.N. urged to freeze climate geo-engineering projects
21 October 2010, by Chisa Fujioka (Reuters)
http://af.reuters.com/article/commoditiesNews/idAFTOE69K02U20101021  
Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:20 | 5795819 smackdabonurass
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Next they'll accuse Russia of staging 9/11, creating al qaeda, funding Hitler, bankrolling the Bolsheviks, penning operation Gladio, complete domestic (US) spying...

 

This is getting hilarious, well at least the sheep will finally have to admit weather modification exists. I mean it's not like the Geneva Environmental Modification Convention treaty entered in to force in the 1970's or anything. I could totally understand why someone would think weather modification was a conspiracy theory.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:19 | 5795820 PTR
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"Indigo Skyfall."

 

Just sayin'.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:21 | 5795837 ChargingHandle
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Go to youtube and look up HAARP REPORT and learn. 

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:22 | 5795842 Jethro
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Did the CIA put LSD in their own water supply?

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 19:49 | 5796329 logicalman
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They did add it to bread in France on at least one occasion.

http://www.sott.net/article/264405-CIA-LSD-experiment-in-1951-drove-whol...

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:24 | 5795848 Hannibal
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Can't help but NOT believe anything that come from THE CIA, these assholes are masters of deception.

 

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:24 | 5795859 BubbaJones
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Look outside and you will see those damn lines in the sky.  It's not just the Russians.  Unless the Russians are flying over the U.S..

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:55 | 5796008 Atomizer
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It’s a Russian American pilot flying a commercial United Airlines plane traveling @ 31,000 thousand feet creating a contrail. Jet engines undergo climate change variations during altitude modulations.  Do you see a contrail during take-off or landings? I would worry about the wings icing up rather than contrails. At least, you won’t fall from the sky.

/sarc

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:27 | 5795873 escapeefromOZ
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What about the chemtrails that are present not only in Europe and North America but also in Moskow ?  How about an explanation from the f..king  CIA about them ?  Who gave you assholes the permission to medicate the world ? Drop dead CIA !

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:27 | 5795875 Bumbu Sauce
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Oh dear, chemtrails...

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:27 | 5795877 gcjohns1971
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To the North East US,

You had a little warm spell from the late 80's to the early 2000's.  It is over now.

Get over it.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 19:12 | 5795878 a common man
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It is happening where I live as well. For over a year now, It has been happening in my neighborhood. They are ruining the local economy and demooralizing us and bringing down the property values in my neighorhood. They have been seruptiously leaving DOG TURDS on the front sidewalk almost every morning.  I am not the only victum. Several of my neighbors have complained ot it as well. Must be Russians, they are the only ones to benefit from such an evil scheme. I think it may be happening all over the country and through out the western civilized world. The agencies need to get a hold of this before we are ruined! The newspapers and local media say nothing about this.We need more articles like this one to bring it to the attention of the public before it is too late! DOG TURDS! (What a effin wast of time)

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:32 | 5795908 Atomizer
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Is Geoengineering a National Security Risk?

 

If we can’t leech taxes out of these motherfucker’s, will create a climate crisis.

Obama Takes Bold Step to Geoengineer Climate Change

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:40 | 5795952 mayavision2012
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According to The Irish Times, it's the CIA doing the dabbling in climate weaponization:

 

Scientist concerned over ‘CIA’ weather weapon query

"A senior US scientist has expressed concern that the intelligence services are funding climate change research to learn if new technologies could be used as potential weapons."

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/scientist-concerned-over-cia-...

 

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:43 | 5795961 Bumbu Sauce
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YOur Brain is Primed to Reach False Conclusions

In some cases, the causality illusion is to blame, but usually the reasons are more complex. Other cognitive biases — such as motivated reasoning (all of us want to believe that the things we do make a difference), base rate neglect (failing to pay attention to what happens in the absence of the intervention), andconfirmation bias (the tendency to look for evidence that supports what you already know and to ignore the rest) — also influence how we process information.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/your-brain-is-primed-to-reach-false-...

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 23:20 | 5797304 Charming Anarchist
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YOur Eyes are Primed to tell YOur Brain the SKY must be Blue

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:43 | 5795964 WarPony
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2007, Air Force 2025 report laid down using weather as a force multiplier, but was already a done deal as shown by freak sand storm in Iraq the day Saddam lost 70+% of his mechanized armour.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:48 | 5795977 Rootin' for Putin
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Oh no!  The economy is faltering because of the winter Putin vortex!

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:53 | 5795995 paint it red ca...
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I truly believe a hostile government is manipulating the weather. Never occured to me that Russia could possibly be behind spraying chemtrails over the Appalachians prior to both recent Low Pressure storms forming sequentially off Atlantic coast.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:53 | 5795996 bigrooster
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Alright now the CIA has gone FULL RETARD!  I am so shamed of what our country has become.  This is what happens when you allow Psychopaths to run the show.  Revolution is the only solution at this point.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:59 | 5796027 Crocodile
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Government consists of people, media consists of people, nations are made of people, cultures within nations are made of people, voters are people...the common thread in it all is people. 

What is about "the people"? They are infected with moral rot and that is the issue.  The individual is as corrupt to the core as the group(s) , nations and world.  All infected with moral-relativism, mans religion and moral compass, that leads to the abyss.  We once used THE fixed moral compass and now we have abandoned it and the results are obvious and the worse is yet to come.  But for some who hold to that fixed moral compass that is the truth and therefore does not change have a hope that the rest could have, but do not see the need nor want it.  They prefer the sewer.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:53 | 5795997 Crocodile
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Please...people look at the tic-tac-toe in the sky and watch the Chem-trails in your skies above; that is not water-vapor, that is micro-aluminum and benzene.  HAARP anyone; California drought anyone?

Dane Wiggington at www.geoengineeringwatch.org

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LmXxNGkaE0

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:57 | 5796014 Bumbu Sauce
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Wigington.  If you are going to cite some loon, at least spell the man's name right so that he may more efficiently accumulate his zealot followers.

 

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-dane-wigingtons-10-bullet-poin...

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 19:05 | 5796043 Crocodile
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You know you have no argument when you base a post on spelling.  I see the chen-trails everyday and sometimes 30-40 in a two hour stretch.  Seeing is believing.  You are obviously a low information shill; sorry could not help myself.  Duane has nothing to gain.

**more misspellings just for you

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 19:45 | 5796291 optimator
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  At one time you could see almost a thousand a once.  http://www.ww2incolor.com/us-air-force/VAPOR-TRAILS.html

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 19:59 | 5796382 logicalman
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Hey, Bamb, I rarely type things that may sound personal, but, you are an annoying, arrogant arsehole, who only sees one side of an argument. You then criticise those who disagree, rather than presenting a better argument.

The US propaganda machine is dangerous to all humanity and your apparently (benefit of the doubt there) unthinking approach makes you, IMHO, at least an accessory to their crimes. If you are thinking, then you are an accomplice.

 

 

Wed, 02/18/2015 - 10:12 | 5798337 Bumbu Sauce
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you are a fucking idiot and a psychopath to boot.  You have wished me ill in nearly every post.

You call me unthinking in a thread about the Ruskies controling our weather.

LMFAO.

Wed, 02/18/2015 - 03:07 | 5797702 bunnyswanson
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5is16A8pfw Rosalinda Peterson at United Nations begging for someone to take notice and help us.

It's accumulative.

Wed, 02/18/2015 - 10:24 | 5798372 Bumbu Sauce
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Notice how absolutely not one of the responders addressed the skeptic's, that I linked to, questions.  Nope they all attacked me personally with ad hominims.  Please pick one of the skeptic's points and answer it.  Don't just claim virgin birth and resurrection please.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:53 | 5795998 Dre4dwolf
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If you accuse the u.s. govt of chem trails to alter weather you are a nut job conspiracy theorist, if the u.s. govt accuses russia of doing the same thing . . .  uh?

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:53 | 5795999 Pumpkin
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I think if they dug around in their own countless file cabinets, they'd find the culprit.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:54 | 5796001 Hope Copy
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Wath this..  EvergreenAir, a CIA favorite...   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSOPbj8A0Co    ...  

At 25,000ft and you bet that valve doesn't have to be full on.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 19:02 | 5796005 Hannibal
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Obama Abandons Hundreds Of US Special Forces In Ukraine

  

 

A stunning new report prepared by the Ministry of Defense (MoD) circulating in the Kremlin today states that the Obama regime has “effectively abandoned” at least 150 US troops embedded with over Ukrainian 5,000 forces in the rebel surrounded town of Debaltseve in eastern Ukraine and left by Kiev’s government to die.

According to this report, the US troops currently under rebel siege are an ad hoc group of American Special Forces belonging to the Vicenza, Italy-based 173rd Airborne Brigade, CIA Special Activities Division (SAD) troops, and elite mercenaries from the notorious US private security firm Academi (formerly known as Blackwater).

MoD knowledge of these US forces participating in the Ukrainian war, this report notes, has been longstanding since last years US Army Europe-led Rapid Trident exercise in western Ukraine that comprised over 1,300 NATO troops, and Germany’s BILD newspaper reporting that their intelligence sources estimated that over 400 Academi mercenaries were involved in this conflict too.

Even worse, this report warns, NAF rebel scouts are reporting their having spotted NATO tanks inside the encirclement (Cauldron) at Debaltseve. According to their information, the possibility is strong that up to 25% of the 5,000-8,000 trapped Ukrainian army may be NATO.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%...

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1839.htm

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 19:10 | 5796069 Crocodile
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Yep and Putin showed Merkel, Hollande and the Urkainian leader the pictures and the surrender has been negotiated without the US mercenaries at the table.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpNKtz0wCZs&feature=youtu.be  (cut to the chase at 32:15 mark)

Wed, 02/18/2015 - 05:03 | 5797811 escapeefromOZ
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If the story is printed by " Whatdoesitmean " rest assured it is BS . 

If is is corroborate by somebody else it's a diffrent matter . That website is a psy-op and their connections to Russia are non existent !

I hope that the Uki encircled in the cauldron get killed if they do not surrender . 

Wed, 02/18/2015 - 08:53 | 5798056 Refuse-Resist
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What kind of fucking idiot do you have to be to join the USMIL these days?

 

Jesus H. Christ!

 

My neighbor's kid, who makes straight A's at the local public HS (and can't spell Carolina I shit you not but is a wizard with his school supplied macbook air), is a true foxnews conservative who hates Obama and the democrats with a passion but loves him some Repubs.

 

I asked him the other day about his upcoming enlistment into the USMC:  You hate Obama right?  Yes.  You do realize that when you join the USMC this summer that he will be your commander in chief, right?

 

Uh... well I guess I never thought about that.

 

Our schools churning out critican thinkers!  It must be the mac laptops issued to all the kids that make them smarter.  That's what the school superintendent told us when they purchased 5k macbook airs.

 

America, FUCK YEAH!

 

 

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:55 | 5796006 Ancestor
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No discussion of weather manipulation can be complete without that song by Kate Bush:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pllRW9wETzw

Why would they bring it up now? USAF had a report commissioned back in 1996, entitled:

"Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025"

http://csat.au.af.mil/2025/volume3/vol3ch15.pdf

Ancestor

 

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:55 | 5796010 Goldilocks
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"The professor is one of many scientists from around the world are actively looking at manipulating the weather as a way of combating climate change."

~/?Yeah?/~

"which came first, the chicken or the egg?"

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 19:49 | 5796330 Anunnaki
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It's not a crime when "we" do it

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:57 | 5796016 Rusputin
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Well wasn't Fuki a mini-nuke in the Japan Trench?

Made a 9.0 level tsunami instead of one for a 7.6 earthquake, as felt nearest the epicentre and on video? Tsunami was 25m higher than expected!

Who would have done such a thing?

Haiti quakes, weather, volcanoes, who's really counting?

I worry about solar flares mostly, the sun could really cook us if it wanted to!

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 20:50 | 5796637 TeethVillage88s
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Yeah, I never think about those being used in the ocean. I have to keep that in mind. Can't cause a hurricane, but definitely a quake type event.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:58 | 5796018 smacker
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It's past time for the CIA and NSA to be shut down and their top layers of management prosecuted for treason. They serve little useful purpose and have both created huge messes of whatever they get involved in. Nobody could claim nowadays that they act in the American National Interest. Far from it.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 20:48 | 5796621 TeethVillage88s
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Well there are like 17 US Spy Agencies... including the Military Services and probably some other secret ones. DHS for instance is like a third tit.

Instead of spending like $300 B a year on Black programs... maybe just keep the military service ones and one at DoD and the FBI.

Hell the FBI is cheap compared to all the other spy Agencies. But the budgets are black so no one really knows who is doing what and what their budgets are.

Retire the 70% mass of them and watch productivity go sky high.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 18:59 | 5796020 honestann
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News Flash:  Pot calls kettle black.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 19:03 | 5796036 John C Durham
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The CIA does weather control and earthquakes via HARP and small nukes. I thought this was common knowledge. As in Ukraine, the CIA does the crimes and blames it on the Russians. That game is over. I don't know of any major intelligence source that isn't aware of these issues...except this one, I guess.

I'm going to spend my time looking elsewhere for tips. This place is too far behind the times.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 19:03 | 5796037 Skip
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Putin is far from perfect, putting those who question aspects of the OFFICIAL HOLOCAUST story in prison with HARD LABOR for 3 years, that harks back to the old Stalin business of Death Penalty for "anti-semitism", that said I think he is a very reasonable man and is, his ego aside, trying to reinvigorate Russia, and the Russian people are a proud people, a people of courage and one of the last places on earth where Christianity is not moribund.

Leave it to Pat Buchanan to put it in perspective:
Putin Paranoia–The Soviet Union Is NOT Coming Back From The Dead
By Patrick J. Buchanan February 16, 2015

Yet beyond our mutual distrust, or even contempt, is there not common ground between us?

As the century unfolds, two clear and present dangers threaten U.S. strategic interests: the rising power of a covetous China and the spread of Islamic terrorism.

In dealing with both, Russia is a natural ally. China sees Siberia and the Russian Far East, with its shrinking population, as a storehouse of the resources Beijing needs.

And against the Taliban in Afghanistan, ISIS in Iraq and Syria, and al-Qaida, Russia, which suffered in Beslan and Moscow what New York, London, Madrid, Paris and Copenhagen have suffered, is on our side.

During the Cold War, Russia was in thrall to an ideology hostile to all we believed in. She had rulers who commanded a world empire.

Yet we had presidents who could do business with Moscow.

If we could negotiate with neo-Stalinists issues as grave as the the Berlin Wall, and ballistic missiles in Cuba, why cannot we sit down with Vladimir Putin and discuss less earthshaking matters, such as whose flag should fly over Luhansk and Donetsk?

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 20:43 | 5796596 TeethVillage88s
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Well it is a Catch-22. Both Putin & NATO know that if he gives up Territory... he loses power in the Russian Federation. Putin has been effective, has provided stability and continuity to a Federation which was hurting very bad and wasn't ever wealthy to begin with in per capita terms. Now, we can talk about Putin's Values, his orientation to USSR, his tolerance for Russian Mafia, and corruption in his country...

- So Putin can't back Down
- US & NATO Probably want to reduce Russian Power, which allows Western Interest to try to move in on Opportunities
- Corporate Interests Want More of Russian Federation & Ukraine and Former USSR States pulled over to the NATO Family
- There can be only one in the end, so we plan to win now

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 21:22 | 5796802 Boubou
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Skip - great post. But I think our folks in DC done talkin' a long time ago.

No reasonable men, statesmen, men of character and integrity in sight.

Not even a moderate pragmatist. We go directly to threats, dark ops, false flags, misinformation and then drones, total surveillance and finally illegal occupation.

We excell only in the fields of deception and violence and are without the law.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 19:12 | 5796075 Atomizer
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Simon says, Frank Archibald retirement of NCS.

 

http://cryptome.org/2013-info/05/archibald/francis-archibald.htm

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 19:16 | 5796106 MatrixLinx
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So whats with the chem trails I always see in southern california? I am not to far fro Vandenburg AirForce base is this the Russians fault?

 

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 19:17 | 5796111 Coldfire
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CIA considers Russia to be a hostile nation because they have stopped at nothing to try and make it one. The more hostile the better, for obvious reasons. Odd how so much facile propaganda is making its way on to the 'Hedge these days. ZH irredentism? Second Law of Thermodynamics? (It's scientific)...

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 19:18 | 5796124 European American
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THis is all good. The more blame, the more the dark side from both sides gets exposed. Can't wait for Putin to bring 9/11 to the table!

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 19:35 | 5796178 Son of Captain Nemo
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Well if "American Sniper" that glorifies the "filtered story" of a deranged lunatic Navy SEAL that enjoys racking up "kills" being the top seller at the box office... what are the odds this propaganda will work with the buffalo wing eatin Budweiser guzzlin citizen out there?!!!

 

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 20:26 | 5796530 TeethVillage88s
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They F**Ked up my Super Bowl, Dude!!

Look what they did to Boston, Bud!!

Don't you remember Hurricane Sandy?!

We Gotta build up our Air Force, Navy, and Full Battle Tanks now. Obama should do an Executive Action to expand Weapons Purchases by $100 B a year and Expand Troops by 400,000.

Sarc or Irony or something...

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 20:52 | 5796645 old naughty
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Too early to re-/write his-story...war not won yet, no?

Our great-grand children will never know who changed the weather. Aliens perhaps?

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 21:08 | 5796729 TeethVillage88s
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Well they used to blow up Nukes to try to put holes in the Atmosphere or ozone layer. Then they concluded that it was safe and didn't hurt the ozone layer. But they have ozone alert days in VICHY DC.

Space Weather probably has a big effect, sun activity.

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 19:35 | 5796225 SpanishGoop
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Yea, one for me again.
You stupid Americans !

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 19:36 | 5796235 TVP
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What a perfect psyop....manipulate the weather, then when people start waking up to the reality, just blame it on whoever you want to go to war with.

Hey CIA - me thinks you need some new tactics, you cocky motherfuckers.  

 

I'm sure Dane Wiggington will have lots to say about this...

geoengineeringwatch.org

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 19:37 | 5796240 swmnguy
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And to think, all this time freezing my balls off in Minneapolis, I was blaming the Canadians.  Or myself for not leaving.  When it was the Russkies all along.  Shouldanodit.

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