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"Optimistic" Putin Says US Already Supplying Arms To Ukraine
Vladimir Putin says he is "more optimist than pessimist" on Ukraine, but warns that there will be "no end to war if Kiev believes in a military solution." Noting that he believes there has been an "overall decrease" in military activity, he notes that Debaltseve was "possible to forecast," and then proclaims:
- *PUTIN SAYS U.S. ARMS ALREADY BEING SUPPLIED TO UKRAINE
Of course, we already have "YouTube" proof of American military presence in Ukraine (which for Washington would have been good enough to wage war) but Putin offers no specific proof and adds rather pointedly that "most Ukraine troops want no part of fractricidal war."
Putin was speaking at a press conference with Hungary's President Orban, and added:
- *PUTIN SAYS HOPEFUL BOTH SIDES IN UKRAINE TO COMPLY WITH ACCORDS
- *PUTIN SEES OVERALL DECREASE IN MILITARY ACTIVITY IN UKRAINE
- *PUTIN SAYS HE'S MORE OF AN OPTIMIST THAN PESSIMIST ON UKRAINE
- *PUTIN: KEY GOAL TO SAVE LIVES OF PEOPLE TRAPPED IN DEBALTSEVE
- *PUTIN SAYS MOST UKRAINE TROOPS WANT NO PART IN FRATRICIDAL WAR
adding that
- *PUTIN SAYS DEBALTSEVE STANDOFF WAS POSSIBLE TO FORECAST
And here's why - because Debaltseve is really just a front guard staging point:
Russian President Vladimir Putin calls upon Ukrainian soldiers encircled in the eastern city of Debaltseve to surrender.
"I expect that those responsible in the Ukrainian leadership won't hinder the soldiers to lay down their arms," Putin says in Budapest.
He adds that he hopes that the separatists surrounding them will let the soldiers return home and not take them prisoner.
And finally:
- *PUTIN SAYS U.S. ARMS ALREADY BEING SUPPLIED TO UKRAINE
* * *
One wonders how Merkel will respond if Putin shows her proof?
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Waffen!? Some things never change. Didn't the Ukrainians field Waffen SS units in WWII for the Nazi's? History repeating itself.
US is only supplying weapons? LMAO. In addition to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDlX5SSAO0M
Must sell more weapons. Must sell more war. Must kill off more entitled. Must hide fraud.
The dying words of a money printer.
John Kerry's tongue is flicking a mile a minute in denial
Zerohedge in German. Long time overdue, if you ask me ...
A Texas legislator once said, "If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it's good enough for me."
It's not easy to argue with logic like that;)
The Italians don't speak Engrish and here's where it gots them... "Italy has only 5,000 troops available that are even close to deployable, according to the defense ministry. Or that the military budget was cut by 40 percent two years ago...." so good luck NATO, EU defending anything or anybody against Putin, ISIS, whatever.
One of my Granduncles always told it´s better to be on your own than Italians having your flank. So ...
He fought at Stalingrad I assume?
No surprise that the USSA was already supplying weapons to the Ukraine. The push in Congress is merely to legalize what has already taken place, as per the usual formula. See Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan etc.
Since the MSM continues to call them "Russian backed separatists" or "Russian backed rebels" could it also start referring to it as "The US backed fascist Kiev government" now?
Sounds good to me.
Every now and then, just to change things up a little bit, "The US sponsored nazi regime" also has a nice 'american' sound to it.
Apparently Emperor Obama has been supplying the Ukes with our leftover WWII crap. Because they just lost 5,000 to 8,000 (or more) men, KIA, MIA, or soon to be captured:
02.17 16:30 ET BREAKING NEWS: Ukrainian Soldiers Ordered by High Command to Destroy Equipment, Evacuate Debaltseve
LOL better on your own that with the Latin on your flanks, the Romanians on the Northern flank and the Italians on the southern.
LOL better on your own that with the Latins on your flanks, the Romanians on the Northern flank and the Italians on the southern. I guess its payback for the Germans sacking Rome and trying to take over Dacia.
Nope...the next iteration will be to call the Nazis and Azov 'Freedom Fighters'
Geez...How in the hell did I reach a point in my life where I would find myself agreeing more with the leader of Russia than with our own president? Am I the only one?
I absolutely agree with Wolferl. I never heard any Axis-WWII-Veteran say anything good about the Italians in combat. However as long as I live I'll be grateful for la cuccina italiana. So, all is forgiven.
The Italians are smart, why should they die for someone else's gains. They fought quite well for the Roman Empire when it was their gain.
Rommel's Afrika corps to their frustration found this out
we have made the EU dependant on American troops this is why Obama can tell German bitches what to do on Greece and Rusia but but Ron Paul says all this military intervention gonna end badly really can't wait. Popcorn anyone
Bossman 1967 if you look at the treaty's signed after the ww11 by the Germans yo will see that they are compleatly owend by America , that is why we have a big army base over thier ,they have no leg's to stand on . They are America's bitch and they will do what they are told.
Hitler probably would have overwhelmed the Soviets but had to detour to defeat the Greeks since the Italians were so inept
Yet the majority of the Christian faith probably don't know Jesus would have spoken Aramaic.
Just another example of ignorant masses following a faith blindly.
The first Gospels were written in Greek from people who spoke Aramaic.
Of course then, after the Council of Nicea decided to cherrypick whatever they wanted, followed by King James, who changed any part that didn't suit his fancy, well, it eventually falls into the hands of some Texas Evangelist who is sure to have the capacity to understand the TRUE meaning.
I think they were written in Aramaic using the old Greek alphabet.
Mostly right. All of the early church literature was written in Greek, in regions that are now southern Turkey and Syria.
There is no credible evidence of any Christians in Judea or Galilee until after Constantine.
Curious, is it not?
There´s not even credible evidence of a guys named Jesus Christ. He´s probably a myth. So what´s the point of speculating in what language a myth was speaking.
(And btw, i´m a dye-hard 100% Christian)
you're kidding me right? open a book once in a while the evidence is overwhelming.
Believe me, i opened a lot of books about this topic. And there is no archaeological evidence or objective historical evidence of Jesus Christ. Besides the new testament of the bible of course and a few Christian scriptures that didn´t made it into the bible. But all of those writings were produced around 100 AD, 70 years after the assumed death of Jesus. "Overwhelming" evidence is somewhat different me thinks.
No evidence of the Jews ever being in the holy land either. Makes sense there was no Jesus.
Wolfy, just curious , how can you be a dye hard christian if you know the whole jesus thing is made up ?
"There is no evidence" just means we can´t be sure weather that Jesus guy actually existed. Maybe he did, maybe not and in that later case he´s just a myth. Doesn´t really matter for Christianity actually since what really matters is scripture and what we can learn out of it TODAY. (And yes, some other Christians will call me infidel because of this view.)
WRONG.
There is no evidence in the 1st CE - because it never happened at all.
There are no copies of the Gospel available UNTIL the 4rhCE, when Constantine "Amalgamated" regional Religions(Mithraism(3 wise men, Bith on Solstice), Attis, Horus, Dionysus(wine, shepherd reference), Zeus, Dagon(Fish mitre and references)), Cults (the Chrestus Movement), and other factors - with yet another fabricated Tie-in to Judaism by its claims as "their" Messiah.
The AD Timeline (and AD 1) was determined arbitrarily by a 6thCE Monk - yes folks, in the Dark Ages - who backdated their FalseGod's Incarnation from an expected date(all past us now - for centuries) of his return and resurrection of believers(long overdue).
The thread is dead, but i just wanna ad that the oldest existing fragments of a gospel dates from 125 AD. This is enough HARD evidence to say they existed around 100 AD. And you´re right, in the centuries after that a lot of essence of other religions was added to Christianity and this happens to this very day. What makes Christianity far superior to other religions on this globe.
Jesus was a multidimensional shapeshifting lizard.
It's not curious cause you're dead wrong. A little research is all that's needed to debunk your statement.
Enlighten me, oh wise one.
The history of the period is well documented. The Jews knew nothing about Jesus, or Nazareth in the first century for that matter. Josephus, writing two epic books after the Jewish wars, has nothing to say about such people.
Good thing they burned down Alexandria so there was no room for confusion afterwards! Evangelists are snake oil salesmen. Come to think of it, the US is full of snake oil salesmen, bandits and slaves. Always has been and always will be.
sorry but that won't save you on the Day of Judgement.
I thought about correcting Jackson's "Waffen = Waffen SS" c&c, but I figured --- meh, whats the point.
Tylers, seriously, you guys should hire a Translator, who's sole job it is to translate this stuff into German, grantid -- most Germans who care about this sort of stuff already speak, read and write better English than most Americans.
It is deeply frustrating for me to be handed assignments by grown adults that look like they were written by retards. I attempted recently to incorporate a short review of sentence structure as part of a training contract, and was reprimanded for doing so. The handouts were shredded.
Strong communication skills among the general populace are one of the essential criteria for a free society.
It would be humorous if Russia tapped Obama's cell phone and gave that as proof to Merkel.
"Waffenstillstand". Ceasefire in German.
Silly goose. The Wehrmacht was forbidden from recruiting in the occupied territories. Thus, all volunteer formations were created under SS jurisdiction.
Very true. Look how many Dutch "Volunteers" signed up. 200k plus! Norwegians, Finns, Swedes, Danes Belgians, French, Cossacks, Ukrainians, Croatian...The list goes on. Other than 1st SS (Adoplh Hitler Div), 2nd SS (Das Reich) and 12th SS (Hitler Youth) The rest were made up of Conquered peoples. Sad when you think of it.
Gosh, you mean ... all those guys were our friends back in the 40ies?
he said "volunteers" - fight or die was more like it
same as for most ordinary Germans who didn't swallow the propaganda hook, line and sinker
Ess ess - komm' ist Zeit fürs Abendbrot
Yeah but most of them did not come back so win there. But +200k Dutch is not correct. It was somewhere between 40k and 50k.
European men joined the Waffen SS in order to fight Bolshevism - they knew about the mass murder and deliberate starvation of untold millions of Russians and Ukrainians that had been happening since the 1920s and had also seen what happened in Hungary when the same tribe (Bela Kun) temporarily took power.
Weren't they supposed to be better ? Like true Ubermensch ??
Yes they did, those Ukrainians had the choice either to work in Germany or fight against the russians/communists
(but not the allies) in the Galician unit.
Bullish!!!
war broadly on track
Sounds like Putie is all in.
We'll have more interesting things going on than the Greek soap opera soon.
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Yep, especially when the Novorossians post videos of their American mercenary prisoners.
Stoogie
I suppose this is more MSM cock then ?
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2015/02/17/origin-of-artillery-attacks/
C'mon, bellingcat? You can't be serious. The guy is a confirmed net.kook with an axe to grind:
The West's Go-to MH17 Expert Is a Social Media Hack Who Pushed Syria Chemical Attack Lies
http://russia-insider.com/en/2015/01/15/2428
Bellingcat: US Weapons Found at Donetsk Airport? Must Be Russian Loot from Georgian War!
http://russia-insider.com/en/2015/01/23/2690
All in, would be giving the speech standing on Porky's corpse in Kiev.
Pol Pot Shenko gets his Just desserts:
Upvote for Ukrainian necktie
Downvote for the Mussolini
Hung upside down with his balls stuffed in his mouth
http://www.custermen.com/ItalyWW2/ILDUCE/Mussolini.htm
And are then being shipped to Syria.
...or, as in the case of the British armored personnel carriers, being sold outright.
http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/02/ukraine-sells-off-british-armored.html
+1. We can't forget this gal from Ireland either who starts talking dirty in parliament. I give credit for that effort.
Tyler,
You want proofs?
http://russia-insider.com/en/2015/01/23/2690
When rebels took over the Donetsk Ariport in January. What were american M4 doing there?
m4 is lying on the ground /sacr
Look to me like old 16's. The newer 4's don't have the raised front sight or carrying handles.
But who really gives a shit. You can buy the crap for $100 in Peshwar along side AK's etc.
I'd take the AK instead any time I could...
I wouldn't take any weapons any time i could, it's stupid. We have army to defend ourselves from external threat and police from internal.
It is working perfectly fine for me. We will take weapons only in the time of war, but it is simply will not work in the USA.
.../tongueincheek
Everybody on ZH is always telling that the French only drop their weapons...
That bastard is killing puppies! PUPPIES I tell ya!
The GOP has a war on everything else so whhy not?
Oh dear lord. Please find your way back to Yahoo.
USA will demand that Russia must return us weapons seized by freedom fighters like USA demanded that Russia must return USA weapons seized by Russian troops in Georgia
I remember that. It was hysterical. We supposedly wanted $450k for 3 or 4 Hummers. I never heard if Russia gave them back eventually (she would have been stupid), but soon after the Georgia war Russia was making its own version of them.
We didn't return it and we didn't return original dollar printing press which was seized in Chechnya.
Não briguem com os eslavos (principalmente Russos):
http://cluborlov.blogspot.com.br/2015/01/peculiarities-of-russian-nation...
hehe.
Where the hell has Boris been during all this?
Shhhhhhh He and Natasha sneaking up behind Moose and Squirrel
So when he opens up his sleeve & says 'PRESTO' it'll be on!
Boris is not being bothered with trifles and truffles.
Is rehypothecating PMs from Greece before the professional criminals arive.
Has the Nobel Prize Winner ever turned down a war? He has bombed seven Muslim countries and destabilized Ukraine.
Yet he remains the most admired man in the world which speaks volumes of the intelligence and discrimination of the American people.
As they say in Hollywood - no one has ever lost money underestimating the intelligence of the American people.
*PUTIN SAYS U.S. ARMS ALREADY BEING SUPPLIED TO UKRAINE
Nahh!!!
No shit?... Really?!!!
Mr. Putin. It's time to show the World what 12 1/2 months of that "White Book" looks like!!!
Mr. Putin. It's time to show the World what 12 1/2 months of that "White Book" looks like!!!
Vlad. This should help....
You need to hook up with these guys. Strike while the iron's hot!
Ya know its gettin' serious when the central bankers trot out the traveling Nazi Road Shows.
Cant wait til ZATO Tropjies start showing up on Colonel Cassad's war trophy site
B. Nathanael describes next EU/Western moves against Ukraine.
Ukraine, Lithuania and Poland have created joint command with 4,000 troops. This Intergovernmental battalion will be led mostly by Polish military and be headquartered in Lublin, Poland.
EU cannot give lethal aide to Ukraine under just war doctrine. But, it can give aide to an EU military outpost. EU outpost by extension is then part of NATO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2og3JU0yUIk&feature=em-subs_digest
EU cannot give lethal aide to Ukraine under just war doctrine. But, it can give aide to an EU military outpost. EU outpost by extension is then part of NATO.
Well MEF sounds like another "loophole" has just been created again by the gang that abides by no rules of engagement as signatories to the binding treaties post "Cold-War" including Geneva and hasn't since the first Gulf War and Kosovo were invaded -so why even bother putting it out there?
But thanks for keeping score for us!
And U.S. (West) supplies Putin with cash......same old globalist game
Putin Gives ‘Order of Friendship’ Award to Rosneft Norwegian Partners….Gratitude to Haliburton, ExxonMobil, Schlumberger
U.S., Finnish Private Equity Firms Capman and Siguler Guff Buy Stake in Moscow Education Testing Firm Maximum Education
Russian Tycoon Viktor Vekselberg To Have Swiss Board Manage Global Assets
Ukraine’s Oleg Mkrtchan Buys 18.5% In Russia’s Gold Producer Polyus
IBM Opens Finance Processing Center In Russia
Texas-based Schlumberger Buys 45% Stake In Russian Oil Driller
ExxonMobil Joint Venture With Russia’s Rosneft Begins Production Offshore Russia
U.S. FCC Looks To Russia’s GLONASS System For 911 Emergency Response
I am pretty sure USA is ready to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian standing.
not sure if this https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/06KIEV1706_a.html#efmAZUAZ-
has been seen often enough
We will NOT be denied our war in Ukraine, god damn it...!!!!
Ukrainian General Staff Confirms Losing Control Over Debaltsevo Forces
Translated from Russian by J.Hawk
Earlier today the Russian Spring reported that, according to the information from the relatives of UAF troops located in the vicinity of Debaltsevo, the chain of command has completely broken down and the troops were issued orders to break out of the cauldron on their own. However, several Ukrainian media immediately denied the reports, claiming it was panic-mongering.
However, only an hour ago the acting spokesperson for the Ukrainian General Staff Vladislav Seleznev confirmed this information during a live interview on the TV channel 112, saying that DPR units were assaulting the UAF base-camp at Debaltsevo, and that the headquarters for all UAF forces there has been destroyed.
Oddly enough, Seleznev would not confirm that the Ukrainian forces are in a cauldron. But he did not deny it either. J.Hawk’s Comment: So it’s coming to an end. It’s only a matter of how many troops make it out alive. But the loss of equipment, combined with earlier losses here and everywhere, put into question the UAF’s ability to conduct large-scale operations for a long time to come. The days of “Victory” have come to an end. The days of “Treason” are only beginning… Poroshenko and others were able to avoid reckoning for the earlier Ilovaysk debacle apparently only by promising a rematch. They seem to have lost that one too, and Round 3 does not seem in the cards. But Round 2 is the only thing kept all the different factions of the very fragile "pro-European" junta together.
http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/02/ukrainian-general-staff-confirms.ht...
"One more day, and the brigade will cease to exist" -- Ukrainian Officer
http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/02/one-more-day-and-brigade-will-cease...
The stupid gerbel Puutie must be one his crazy pills again.
Of course Ukranians don't want to be involved in killing other Ukranians.
That is why Puutie has is Russian slime invading the country.
I suppose you are referencing hard satellite imagery.
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Probably more like hard drug imagery.
Cocaine is a helluva drug!
Cocaine is a helluva drug!
So you can see all of those things in that crystall ball with a swastika painted on it?
Ahhh, the sniveling whine of a whipped cur
Rootin' for Putin!
I wanna see some ZATO officers do the perp walk out of Debaltseve
That would be like Christmas, New Years and birthday present all in one
One man's freedom fighter is another man's armed separatist.
Putin is right, this was predictable. The Debaltsevo kettle has been boiling for weeks, Putin raised the issue in Minsk with Porky, Merkel and Hollande, but Porky dismissed it as a non issue. Now we have the result. Even Merkel, when asked today about Debaltsevo, said "Well, it is not as if we didn't see this coming".
How many days before we have a new Maidan and Porky is toppled just like the last one. He whom the gods want to kill, they will first make mad.
The nation states of the NWO hate the the NWO. No reason to think that Ukranians don't hate them too. Everybody hates them. They are funded by pedophile bankers and war criminal politicians. They run ISIS and ISIL and Al-Queda and took down the World Trade Centers and killed 2 million Arabs in the mid east, burnt the faces off of children, tortured people in torture prisons and now they are preparing for war against the entire F'n planet. They are going to create a nuclear winter. My goldfish will starve bitchez. Good article because it puts things in perspective and shows that agression is getting more difficult.
There have been Western weapons shipped to Ukraine on an Antonov cargo plane for a month, and probably through other mean before that. The Antonov plane has been duly sighted by ALL the intel agencies, Eastern, Chinese, you name it.
But lots of these weapons, at least the valuable stuff, has been sold to Syria by the Ukies. Of course, none of the proceedings from the sales have gone to the Ukraine. They have all ballooned the already comfortably bulging wallets of the local oligarchs.
All the future American weapons will evaporate in the same way. Don't laugh, Americans: it's all out of YOUR taxmoney.
Putin with an 85% approval rating among his people and growing stronger every day. It also won't be long before more Americans like him than Obama or any of the other cunts running western nations.
May I ask from where are you referencing this so-called 85% approval rating?
On a long enough time line the approval rating for dictatorships approaches 100%.
Off topic, if you are interested in drones check out this site http://pickyourdrone.com/ ;)
Putin is right that the ukranians don't want a fratricidal war , they are obviously not the nazis Russia has portrayed them as. But it matters little when Putin wants the war.
here is another one for the troll list
It is no suprise that people on this website consider other interpetations of Russian actions as trolling.
No , regarding the Blackwater & Other Filth , they should pack them in a plane and parachute them over an ISIL stronghold in Iraq.
Waste of good parachutes, surely?
"One wonders how Merkel will respond if Putin shows her proof?"
She'll just scratch her hairy armpit, reach for another beer, and belch out more anti-Russian obscenities.
If we look at war in Ukraine and who is liying than look at these facts not some pathetic unproven putin regime propaganda:
1.) putin told that there are no russian army active in Crimea, that they are only sitting in their bases - truned out that was a lie:
http://youtu.be/x6HpySKFpiU
Remember these "locals" aka "little green man" that admits they are from russia:
http://youtu.be/wMJwdX5IHm8
2.) Russian propaganda spread info that referendum in Crimea was legit and supported by it's people and members of parliament - but it turned out to be lies - russian terrorist ex-leader Girkin admits there where no support for them in Crimea and that they forced parliament members to vote as terrorists wanted:
http://youtu.be/aelwn_UfeN0
Igor Girkin, ex-minister of defense of the so-called Donetsk Republic:
“Have you actually been to Crimea during the referendum? Well, I have. I have been there since February the 21th. What you are describing here is absolute rubbish. There were no policemen who supported our side at that time. The only law-enforcement subdivision that has joined our ranks back then was the Berkut. The rest of the law-enforcement agencies remained under control of Ukrainian Ministry of Internal, and kept carrying out the MIA’s orders. Yes, sometimes they were sabotaging these orders, but all in all they were under Ukrainian control. I haven’t seen any support from official governmental representatives in Simferopol. Our troops had to force the deputies into the Oblast Council hall so that these representatives would vote in favor of our initiatives. I know this because I have been at the time commandeering one of such militant teams and I’ve seen it all from the inside. We had absolutely no support from the people, not to mention the army. The Ukrainian army units remained loyal to Kyiv as they were. Furthermore, most of the army remained that way. The only thing that made what we have accomplished in Crimea possible was the presence of Russian army.”
http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/01/24/ex-terrorist-leader-referendum-in-crimea-was-a-farce/
3.) putin denies any military help to so called "rebels" in Ukraine - but it failed in Minsk 2 agreement - where he actualy has admited in supporting them with Tordnado-S which is only operated by Russian Federation and has never been exported out side it to other countries.
Minsk 2 agreement say:
"2. Withdrawal of all heavy weapons by both sides to equal distances in order to create a security zone with a width of at least 50 km between them for artillery systems with a calibre of 100 mm and more, and a security zone with a width of 70 km for MLRS and with a width of 140 km for MLRS “Tornado-S” “Uragan,” “Smerch” and tactical missile systems “Tochka” (“Tochka-U”):
- for the Ukrainian troops: from the actual line of contact;
- for the armed formations of certain areas of the Donetsk and the Lugansk regions of Ukraine: from the line of contact in accordance with the Minsk Memorandum of September 19, 2014.
The withdrawal of heavy weapons set out above shall begin no later than the second day after the cease-fire and end within 14 days.
This process will be assisted by the OSCE, with the support of the Trilateral Contact Group."
http://www.ibtimes.com/minsk-ceasefire-deal-full-text-agreement-between-russia-ukraine-germany-france-1814468
OperatorsThe improved Tornado-S is being upgraded with the special GLONASS satellite navigation system used in the Smerch missile system. The Tornado-S will have guided rocket rounds enabling it to fire out to 72 miles (120 km). The Tornado-S will have a longer range and increased effectiveness, due to the use of new warhead payloads and a reduced launch readiness time of just three minutes. The Tornado-G entered series production in 2013.[2] The system entered service with the Russian armed forces in 2014.[3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9A52-4_Tornado
http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/02/14/putin-legally-admitted-russia-waging-war-ukraine-minsk-agreement-documents/
putin regime terrorists broke truce and continue to use artilerry on city controlled by Ukranian people and it's army.
"The rebels have said the ceasefire does not apply to Debaltseve, scene of the worst fighting in recent weeks."
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/15/us-ukraine-crisis-osce-idUSKBN...
"Of course we can open fire (on Debaltseve). It is our territory," Eduard Basurin, a rebel commander, told Reuters."
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31483116
Another repost of previously discredited cheap propaganda.
The fantasy has grown quite straightforward now...
OK, for the sake of it I'll accept all your arguments of Russian perfidy. Why now? What inspired them to do it now? Could it be the sight of Bandera-ites carrying posters of Bandera and their "Wolf's Hook" version of the swastika, taking over the government in Kiev? And rushing to enact laws that made pretty much all the Ukrainian citizens of Eastern Ukraine criminals for speaking their own language?
In that part of the world, those are some fearsome omens. And Russians, of all people, should know what it means to reach a peace treaty with Nazis.
Hey Freedumb
So it's okie dokie that Obumfuck and the Eurotards have troops and personnel killing Moskals but you cry foul when Russia does it?
Crimea River. American losers advising Ukrainian losers. Match made in Heaven.
Hey Anus Naki,
if you took the time to pull that dick out of your ass long enough, youd realize how fucking obvious you are
You fucking dink fuck...the only "loser" is a fucktard propagandist dick licker like you,....You fucking peasant vodka damaged inbred alcohol poisoned brainstem mother fucker....unfortunately i cannot post in pictures here for your enfeebled "intellect" to understand
Proven that putin regime did massive bombardment against Ukrainians:
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2015/02/17/origin-of-artil...
Not surprising that a Straujuma regime Latvian terrorist would use a net.kook site like bellingcat to support his cheap propaganda.
At some point an American or allied fighter will get caught or KIA & the whole charade exposed.
Ah, not so fast.
Prior to that point, the American sheeple will be told well in advance that he was a Muslim convert with videos to prove it!.
I'm going to go ahead and predict that if Ukraine doesn't go "All Quiet on The Western Front" within 72 hours, Putin is going in. I believe US weapons in Ukraine fueling a Slav on Slav conflict is his red line. That is his backyard. There needs to be real progress in peace.
No it is his neighbors yard, his neighbor Ukraine. Unless of course you are Russian, because then Ukraine is not a legitimate state.
Winston,
Ukraine is not Ukraine's backyard. Ukraine is Ukraine. It is Russia's backyard. To say Russia does not regard Ukraine as a legitmate state is nonesense. True, it has no use for a Ukraine that is allowing itself to be used by Washington as a club with which to beat Russia. But it must be kept in mind that the Ukrainian Republic with its current borders is an entirely Muscoivte creation. It granted the country independence in 1991 not because Ukrainians were thronging the streets of Kiev demanding it (they were not, indeed, polls conducted at the time indicated that a strong majority of Ukrainians wanted to remain in some kind of union with Russia), and even now, with the onset of a radically Russophobic regime in Kiev propped up by the US and neo-Nazi forces, is trying to find a way to make the dysfunctional Ukrainain Republic functional. This entails regional autonomy, official status for the Russian language and a constitutional prohibition on NATO membership. etc. Kiev has shown no desire neogtiate on these points; instead, it choses to settle the matter of Ukraine's dysfunctionality by cleansing the eastern half of the country of Russians -- by forcing as many of them to leace as they can, and either killing or forcibly Ukrainianizing those who remain.
Uncle Samovich's back yard, no less.
I agree in part, but why should Putin do anything right now? Kiev's getting its ass kicked. Going forward it's going to be less a matter of US weapons than of anyone being available or willing to carry one.
If some A-hole American Blackwater mercs are part of the prisoner catch at Debaltseve the Rebels should do some American-style Abu Ghraib butt pyramid action with 'em and put the videos on Youtube for entertainment.
Oh puti-pu, if you've got any balls you'll just let those nukes fly, Washington is plenty easy to see from orbit, and Denver too while you're at it. If you hurry the mirv will crack open before Oblabla even drops his selfie stick.
Hell we'll be happy to open trade with you and consign you a CMOH if only you were to lance this tyrannical boil perched high upon our collective backs.
South Front on YouTube has been giving daily video updates on this topic.
As I always say, I am a huge fan of Putin and Russia and always root for them but..... I think it's time to go long RUSS right before more US sanctions start piling up on Russia. US is determined to destroy Russia. RUSS is the 3x etf bear russia. It skyrockets when their markets go down.
Obama Abandons Hundreds Of US Special Forces In Ukraine
A stunning new report prepared by the Ministry of Defense (MoD) circulating in the Kremlin today states that the Obama regime has “effectively abandoned” at least 150 US troops embedded with over Ukrainian 5,000 forces in the rebel surrounded town of Debaltseve in eastern Ukraine and left by Kiev’s government to die.
According to this report, the US troops currently under rebel siege are an ad hoc group of American Special Forces belonging to the Vicenza, Italy-based 173rd Airborne Brigade, CIA Special Activities Division (SAD) troops, and elite mercenaries from the notorious US private security firm Academi (formerly known as Blackwater).
MoD knowledge of these US forces participating in the Ukrainian war, this report notes, has been longstanding since last years US Army Europe-led Rapid Trident exercise in western Ukraine that comprised over 1,300 NATO troops, and Germany’s BILD newspaper reporting that their intelligence sources estimated that over 400 Academi mercenaries were involved in this conflict too.
Even worse, this report warns, NAF rebel scouts are reporting their having spotted NATO tanks inside the encirclement (Cauldron) at Debaltseve. According to their information, the possibility is strong that up to 25% of the 5,000-8,000 trapped Ukrainian army may be NATO.
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%...
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1839.htm
Now that would be interesting if it panned out. And if we in the West ever heard about it, much less saw proof of it.
This is the only reason The United Nations Security Council has voted unanimously to approve a Russia-drafted resolution to support the Minsk agreements.
A German, US influenced, map... Try this 'fantasy map published in the BBC attributed to 'Ukraine National Security and Defense Council.. and you can see 'problems'.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31495099?ocid=global_bbccom_email_1...
A German, US influenced, map... Try this 'fantasy map published in the BBC attributed to 'Ukraine National Security and Defense Council.. and you can see 'problems'.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31495099?ocid=global_bbccom_email_1...
A Little Saxon Business
By Alex Leshy
Translated from Russian by J.Hawk
The proof is for all here to see. As soon as Kiev received the British AT105 Saxon armored personnel carriers, it promptly put them on sale. I don’t know what business is located at the Borispol Street 9 in Kiev, Ukraine, that’s indicated on the web site. But if it is to be believed, it offers for sale something remarkable, namely a Saxon AT105 tactical police vehicle. If need be, the firm is willing to repaint the vehicle according to the wishes of the purchaser.
No, Ukraine will never be a great power. Granted, the Saxon is a piece of junk. But at a time when a boarded-up truck is considered an armored vehicle at the front, even these wheeled coffins might be of some use. Of how much use, that is another question. But when you on the one hand plead for military assistance all around the world, and on the other you put it up for sale as soon as you receive some is, undeniably, the stuff of which empires are made of. Yes.
J.Hawk’s Comment: Lenin famously said that the “capitalists will sell us the rope to hang them with,” and judging by the goings-on in the Ukraine, capitalism seems to be alive and well there! The Saxons were, interestingly enough, purchased by the Yanukovych government from a private British arms dealer, not the UK government. Still, they are in working order, and they do have certain usefulness, even though their combat qualities are negligible. But yes, this is a prime example of the epic, almost supernatural, Ukrainian corruption which will bring the current “Ukraine project” to a very tragic end. Western governments no doubt have few illusions as to what would happen to whatever assistance, lethal or non-lethal, they sent to Kiev.
http://fortruss.blogspot.no/2015/02/ukraine-sells-off-british-armored.ht...
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It's good Russia doesn't supply arms to the rebels and is not in any way involved in the conflict! Oh wait...The war has been on for about a year now but the rebels have not run out of ammo as of yet. On the contrary they have more and more tanks, heavy weaponry etc Must have figured out a way to grow arms on the trees. Russia is not involved but somehow it is unexpectedly up to Putin to stop the war...At least it seems Merkel and Ollande think so..
Kiev is broke...worse than broke...but somehow has enough money to keep buying tanks and artillery and rounds of all sorts and paying draftees. And paying mercs...hmmmm? But it's only bad when Russia supports ethnic Russians? I bet the east UUkraine always had more money than Jiev could muster, so that tgey could buy weapons and shit from Russia is probably more likely than Kiev could pay for theirs...so it's good if Western arms dealers sell to Kiev...bad if Eastern dealers sell to the rebels.
The Kiev govt isn't any more legitimate than the eastern rebel leaders...probably less in their respective populations eyes. Your guys are losing...suck it up and accept it. Sore losers are the worst lot.
I saw the one YouTube of the "out of my face" English speaking soldier in Mariupol who days later posted a Facebook of himself "inverted" who admitted to be a British deminer. When that video appeared I and a whole lot of people tried to identify his accent. He isn't a New Englander (I am). So one guy is the whole American army, Academi, Blackwater, rolled into one. Last summer I saw one MRE wrapper, just one in all the nightly Russian TV 1 I have seen. When the airport was finally taken they showed a video of a pile of filthy Bushmaster which must have come from Newtown, CT because there is little if any 5.56 ammo being used by the Ukrainian army.
My turn. I have seen videos of Russian T-72 models not available to foreign nations, Strella 10 antiaircraft missile systems which only belong to Russia, the 300mm Tornado Grad rocket stuck in the ground in Krametorsk which only Russia has. I saw so many holes in the Donesk airport building that an American trucking first would have difficulty in supplying to whomever who fired them. I saw photos of the MH17co-pilot still strapped in his seat with shrpnel holes in his chest and his side of the cockpit exterior torn apart by shrapnel and NOT cannon fire holes. I enjoyed seeing the participants of the Munich security forum meeting laugh at Mr. Lazarov when he said Russia is not aiding the rebels. As of December some 200 Russian soldiers were buried and their mothers can't get an explanation of how or where they died without being threatened by the Russian government.
Vladimir Putin cannot say anything anymore without my feeling he is lying.