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What Russians Think Of Western Sanctions
Submitted by Vineyard of the Saker,
I parse the Russian media (corporate and social) on a daily basis and I am always amazed at the completely different way the issue of western sanctions is discussed. I think that it is important and useful for me to share this with those of you who do not speak Russian.
First, nobody in Russia believes that the sanctions will be lifted. Nobody. Of course, all the Russian politicians say that sanctions are wrong and not conducive to progress, but these are statements for external consumption. In interviews for the Russian media or on talk shows, there is a consensus that sanctions will never be lifted no matter what Russia does.
Second, nobody in Russia believes that sanctions are a reaction to Crimea or to the Russian involvement in the Donbass. Nobody. There is a consensus that the Russian policy towards Crimea and the Donbass are not a cause, but a pretext for the sanctions. The real cause of the sanctions is unanimously identified as what the Russians called the "process of sovereignization", i.e. the fact that Russia is back, powerful and rich, and that she dares openly defy and disobey the "Axis of Kindness".
Third, there is a consensus in Russia that the correct response to the sanctions is double: a) an external realignment of the Russian economy away from the West and b) internal reforms which will make Russia less dependent on oil exports and on the imports of various goods and technologies.
Fourth, nobody blames Putin for the sanctions or for the resulting hardships. Everybody fully understands that Putin is hated by the West not for doing something wrong, but for doing something right. In fact, Putin's popularity is still at an all-time high.
Fifth, there is a wide agreement that the current Russian vulnerability is the result of past structural mistakes which now must be corrected, but nobody suggests that the return of Crimea to Russia or the Russian support for Novorussia were wrong or wrongly executed.
Finally, I would note that while Russia is ready for war, there is no bellicose mood at all. Most Russians believe that the US/NATO/EU don't have what it takes to directly attack Russia, they believe that the junta in Kiev is doomed and they believe that sending the Russian tanks to Kiev (or even Novorussia) would have been a mistake.
The above is very important because if you consider all these factors you can come to an absolutely unavoidable conclusion: western sanctions have exactly zero chance of achieving any change at all in Russian foreign policy and exactly zero chance of weakening the current regime.
In fact, if anything, these sanctions strengthen the Eurasian Sovereignists by allowing them to blame all the pain of economic reforms on the sanctions and they weaken the Atlantic Integrationists by making any overt support for, or association with, the West a huge political liability.
But the Eurocretins in Brussels don't care I suppose, as long as they feel relevant or important, even if it is only in their heads.
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BULLISH.
That is always a given....if an ELE asteroid was to hit in 12 hours, the answer would be the same...buy stawks!
Seriously? If one reads the Russian language media they can not understand why we elected "an annoying monkey" to be President. It's a matter of reading their domestic content to understand that the Russian people do not hate the American people.
They just hate the primates who are in power.
are you saying some of them actually think, aren't they same as us, sheeples.
90% of world population are sheeples
of course they think all those things, they're brainwashed. the state publishes the news, and you can say the same about the US, but you couldnt' have a site like ZH in russia, and the hundredes of sites criticizing Obama here would never exist there.
So you are saying Russians can't access Foxnews, CNBC, MSNBC on the internet?
Actually that's a bad analogy as I beleive sites like ZH and RT are truth sites -not propaganda.
ZH and RT just don't lie so much as CNBC and foxnews. They give more facts and less words, so you can think for yourself
Second im not even try to tell you our version, because it's pointless. You can't believe that Stalin wasn't bad at all. Period.
Four percent of the population are psychopathic lords and masters, 95% are sheeple, and 1% are of the freedom culture.
About 20% are known as secondary psychopaths.
They will do anything to get approval of primary psychopaths.
<-- III %er
Yup.
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You can't have a site like ZH in the US. So what is your point?
it's a good thing you're not brainwashed
Ps. what kinds of things should they think about?
uh, ZH is in Russia
Switzerland
http://www.ortcloud.ch/ owns the IP address.
I don't understand the sense in which you are stating this.
ZH is in the CONUS, as well. Their IP is in Switzerland, though.
I'd like to know where Tyler Durden is right now... selling soap on a transatlantic flight, perhaps?
UH... 10 or 15 years from now, ZH might be posting articles on what the CONUS thinks of the newest round of Chinese or Russian sanctions.
In the West, if they don't like your opinions you will have your assets frozen like they did to Joseph Kobzon or if you are an American, you will be audited like many US republicans found out. US free speech usually costs a lot of money if your opinions differ. Speech that is not PC has even worse consequences in the West. I'd love to see pictures of Obama eating a banana on an Opera House in the US, but only some speech is free... not all.
Americans are self emasculated sheeple.
Russians are fierce and proud Bearple.
bullshit. the real people just don't get exposure in the media. there are plenty of us.
True -but we are truly a minority.
Yes, the only minority that matters -and paradoxically seems to not matter at all; the individual.
Once upon a time BK you used to comment something rational, now, its like you're taking "stupid" pills...keep it up, you're getting ever closer to MDB levels
What you describe is the exception, not the rule, hence the validity of the generalization.
You mean those who have no internet access in the trailer parks where they live?
no
Russian non official language media said that Obama is fucking puppet and monkey. You can't elect someone if you don't vote. Puppet in usa, canada or any other puppet -is still a puppet.
Obammie is a circus monkey sock puppet riding a baloney pony.
http://cdn.topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/917/bhha217.jpg
Obama's bosses think he is a fine monkey - just as they hoped.
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I've come to the conclusion that nobody in western governments/positions of power knows how to deal with anyone who simply says what they're going to do and does it. They immediately recoil from plain-spoken truth like it's Kryptonite or something. To wit:
1. Putin. Need I go into details on this here?
2. Greece. No more phony paper-over for the underlying problem they say. Now they're the enemy of the "Union" they supposedly belong to for daring to speak it, let alone make motions like they're acting on it.
3. ISIS. They outright CALL themselves Islamic Jihadists. But nobody in the west is willing to accept that, calling them everything in the book EXCEPT that.
The grand lies that depend on the petty lies of relabeling things as something they're not are cracking. Or maybe that's just my optimism showing.
Yeah dude....AND YOU KNOW SHIT'S ALL FUCKED UP WHEN A CONVERSATION LIKE THIS OCCURS! LOL
These fuckers have lost it all when even Chris Matthews of all fuck-tards thinks the White House "folks" have turned into total fuck-tards! LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHJvyhI4QLY
Has Chris lost that lovin' tingly-legged feelin'?
Relabelling for fun...
Truth: Incompetent simian
Relabelled as: Community Organizer, OR: Hanuman the Magnificent!
Truth: Greedy bankers with no moral restraint
Relabelled as: Wealth creators, OR: Heroes to emulate
Truth: Patriotic leader who tries to protect his nation
Relabelled as: Aggressive neo-Hitler
Truth: Neo Nazis are our allies in one country, and Insane Islamic Sadists are our allies in another
Relabelled as: Freedom and Democracy
Truth: Even with cheap gas, I don't have any extra money
Relabelled as: Stocks hit all-time high!
Truth: It's awfully hot and dry out West this winter
Relabelled as: Oh my GOD! It's snowing in BOSTON!!!!
CLAP...CLAP...CLAP...CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP ..........
great point
there must be a psychological term for this
they have distorted the truth for so long and to such a degree, they:
no longer know how to recognize it,
no longer know how to react to it, and
can no longer return the favor
you must be right. i always trust various Russian news outlets cuz they always tell the truth
and the interviewee always answers what he/she really thinks.
fascinating these KGB/Putin luvvin ZebraHeads. chew on these "facts"for entertainment
http://dealbreaker.com/2015/02/worlds-scariest-most-cold-blooded-and-rut...
If they want to think anything useful, they should be thinking the best way to get to the 5000 fallout shelters in Moscow that have just been built. A country does not build 5000 fallout shelters in the 2010's for no reason. I am on team USA and have not been informed where my closest fallout/nuke shelter is.
Im Russian and i don't know what are you talking about?What shelters?
When we were growing up in the 50s, they told us that everyone in Russian cities had access to an underground shelter and were ready to survive a US nuclear attack.
it not absolutely so, we have a deep subway - up to 70 meters, in the event of war entrances locked and subway turns into a autonomous bunker.
You must understand that in America we have been lied to pretty much our entire lives.
we know it. You are first colony of Federal reserv.
UPVOTE.
Understatement of the year!
/thread
In New York, we also have a subway system. By design it is shallow because it is infested with rats the size of beavers. Thankfully, in the event of war, the shallow depth will allow the radiation to mercifully kill us before the rats eat us.
Sounds like a good plan.
The rats are there for a reason. Absent a direct hit, you will be able to survive for days, eating rats.
the bigger the better. The big ones, just think 'rabbit'.
Afterall they're both rodents. Right?
Mention the standard of architecture in ALL the Moscow Underground stations. As you know, they are all different, and every one is pretty spectacular (as well as being an effective nuclear bunker "in case of misunderstanding"). Same in Kiev.
You'll have noticed the very heavy doors alongside all the lines, between stations. I'm told by relatives there, that these 1 foot thick steel doors may be hydraulically closed, in effect isolating each station from one another. Again, same in Kiev.
So, "someone" really thought about this decades ago (and yes they may be old, but they all still work just as they were designed to do), and with the Russian "prepper" mindset (especially evident in those living in the further-flung provinces), their ability to survive a nuclear engagement is pretty high.
Dont worry about it. Hes a shill. Both sides have fallout shelters new and old all over the place. I know three people who hav them in their back yards. One of them is double steel shipping containers unter 10 feet of dirt. Hes in the construdction business and owns large digging equipment
If I am a shill then I am an unpaid one. Can you make me a paid one? I can give you my papyal account info.
proceed
we are waiting...
You are paid - what do you think your foodstamps are for?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFvK-MLu5fk
SO no comments on the truth douches? How about more downvotes!! Downvotes will save you.
Why do you take the time to make an account knowing full well this is not the kind of place you can change anyones opinions?
That and the fact that the only thing you really are doing is making people laugh at you? The people here are not like the people at youtube or cnn where trolls anger anyone. Here people like you literally make others say "lol holy fuck look at how big of an idiot this guy is. I feel bad he is someones kid/family member".
I'll be nice and just say, don't waste your time to be a clown.
I upvoted you. I do not have the time nor the inclination to look at the history of other posters here. I am glad you have that priveledge though. How exactly have I made people laugh at me? I posted a video saying the Russuans have built 5000 fallout shelters. Maybe it is false or maybe it is true - I do know I would trust it more than any western MSM now. As the other poster was trying to call me a shill, how much do you make exactlty posting here and doing research on what people have posted? DO tell!
@ fascismLOSER
You are a prize fucking idiot!!!!!
Why would anyone wish to read others' opinions? ( Seriously, just feed 'em and Fuck 'em )
Says it ALL. . My way or the highway HUBRIS of the EVIL CABAL . . and you little boy lost.
Scouts' motto ' Be Prepared ' The Twisted NeoCon is desperate and out of control.
Switzerland has even more bomb shelters you asswipe. Does that mean the Swiss are planning a nuclear war?
Bomb shelters wont save anyone from a nuclear war, maybe only in the short term.
If Russia hits the absolute dumps as a country and everyone is reduced to cannibalism to survive, they will let nukes fly and bring this entire sharade know as civilization down with them. Who can blame them? Let the chips fall.
Agreed regarding the bomb shelters.
For the rest, it sounds more likely a path chosen by Vichy DC than Russia.
Your point is good. People seem to be waking up in large numbers to the real sources of pathology in current affairs. It's gratifying to see how many people are still SANE in spite or maybe even because of the daily streams of propaganda.
Did the elite swiss build all of their shelters in the past three years? I would be pretty amazed if those elitist bastards did that for anyone other than themselves personally. CHF is the best place to be if you are a billionaire...they are also the root of all evil on this planet, even worse than israel..that is an accomplishment.
It would be prudent for Russia to build bomb shelters -with psycho zionist neocons in control here, I feel like I need my own -primarily from a false flag nuke and secondarily because if the psychos in control here attempt a first strike on Russia, retaliation will result.
"I have not been informed where my closest fallout/nuke shelter is"
That's funny shit, right there! Stick your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye!
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2771.m570.l1311.R6.TR1...
Or, buy one of these, and "get digging" . . . . http://www.ebay.com/itm/BUILD-A-FALLOUT-SHELTER-BUNKER-Nuclear-Atomic-Bomb-Books-Films-DVD-Rom-Disc-/221692374210?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item339de52cc2
How about "One Careful Owner, low mileage" 20 ft?? http://www.ebay.com/itm/20-Cargo-Container-Shipping-Container-Storage-Container-in-Miami-FL-/221690444337?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item339dc7ba31
Or, if more space is needed, a 40 ft one might do? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shipping-container-or-storage-cargo-40ft-Grade-A-Good-quality-40-feet-container-/201188199356?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ed7c04bbc
Roll your disinformation into a phallis and shove it up yer arse.
Thats because you are a worthless piece of fucking trash, to be fucked and abused by any cunt who determines so in your faggot Kenyan monkey run govt.
Now fuck off and get back to shining shoes or whatever you were told to do
Speaking of faggot, damicol..your picture looks like you are regularly getting fucked in the ass by your puppet government, you fucking pussy, fuck you
Keep bending over you fucking whore
If you could actually take the time to pull the dick out of your ass long enough...maybe you could have found that even RT News verified the 5000 shelter projection, you fucking cunt
http://rt.com/news/prime-time/moscow-bomb-shelters-outskirts/
Captain Butthole, making an ass of himself again.
i THUMBED YOU UP CAUSE YOU FUNNY N SHIT....
"Does a bear shit in the woods" guess we will find out soon enough..
Yes, if "woods" is a euphemism for Obama's mouth.
I liked the shirtless Putin on horseback with a raw fish clenched in his teeth being escorted by a tiger much better.
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What? ;-)
Putin Murders Chinese Goats in Daring Cross-Border Tiger Raid!!!!1!!!11!
http://russia-insider.com/en/2014/11/26/05-02-34pm/putin_murders_chinese...
lol...good one.
But don't you think the Kremlins propaganda machine cranking out the machismo angle was just a tad over the top?
Only because President Mom-Jeans-And-Knee-Pads makes Mister Rogers look like a biker on a PCP rampage.
Well, maybe I read too much into it then.
Elizabeth Warren & Hillary! do appear more masculne than O'Barry ;-)
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Fucking A!!!
Sanctions are bullshit. They are up high on a long list of checklist items on the way to prepare for Obama's new war.
If you look at the MSM we are pretty far along on the checklist... he and his masters are eyeing the last box: Launch Codes.
We actually can buy less, but it's not important. You need family, home, work, if west don't want to sell western goods to Russia - why should we stop them?
Funny that we were all under the impression that Dear Leader himself told "everyone" that "Sanctions don't work", when he decided to get all chummy with Cuba . . . .
Interesting isn't it. Maybe there is a lot more behind the push for "normalization of relations - possibly the worry that Russia might be "revisiting old friends" with a view to renting out some useful real estate for "defensive" purposes . . . .
I suspect this article is accurate. It is clear that Russia is now on the moral "highground". We in in the West are ruled by vile filth who should not even be considered human.
Puutie must pay well to convince people to write that the invader now has the "moral highground."
When US propagandists come to terms with their low quality in propagandizing?
"Puutie", "Muzzies", "Twoofers"....
Duck! Here comes a "yer mama..."
Yes, there's a pattern.
Saker is Classé
There is no longer a Russian media.
It is ALL Puutie media.
Any and all opposition media has been put out of business years ago. Journolists asasinated and quieted.
Survey all you want to read what the Puutie oligarchs have to publish to praise Puutie.
But it is known that 'american' minds revel in wallowing in propaganda and fantasy so they have to dismiss the most obvious side of reality.
The invasion of Crimea by Russia is fact, not propaganda.
The invasion of Ukraine by Russia is fact, not propaganda.
Most American minds are engaged in reveling about Lindsay Lohan's lack of underwear or the special oil used to make Kim Kardashian's ass shine in photos.
Puutie has driven out or assasinated many of the quality reporting outlets in Russia.
Russia didn't invade in Crimea, because Russia already have troops there (up to 25k with agreement with Ukraine)
You can't invade somewhere if you already have troops there.
Hmmm, so if a base or port is allowed to be used by Russians, then its not an invasion of sovereignty when they start killing the locals? ;-)
Some people died in Crimea ?
At least the polling places were "well guarded"...lol.
is it problem for you?
there were many threats of violence
you against protection for innocent people wish to vote freely?
As were the polling places in Iraq.
ok, you have bunch of nazi outside crimea and you have 25k troops inside, but you can only deploy them, you can't order this troops to shot people - what you will do?
No one was killed in Crimea...
dumbass comment
Crimea seceded
Crimea is peaceful, working to restore and building, pensions raised 3x, and more
while Kiev has terrible growing crime rate
If Crimea is peaceful it is because the FSB has locked up enough dissidents to quiet the others. That is the Puutie practice within Russia. Of course the Russian troops shot and killed people there when they took control of the bases and government buildings. So stupid of you to deny it.
Keeping the people in conditions of starvation will generally cause them to concentrate their attention on food supply. Russian criminals control that and are likely giving Puutie his fair share of the loot. Confiscation of that chicken supplier sure helped the food supply. People in Crimea have become Puutie's Paupers.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/17/how-crimea-crashed-the-russian-economy.html
“Get used to being at least twice as poor next year as you were before the annexation of Crimea,” says Vladimir Ryzhkov, a prominent Russian politician and professor at the National Research University Higher School of Economy.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-16/putin-s-paradise-becomes-economic-no-go-zone-where-cash-is-king
"After annexing Crimea, Putin, the Russian president, moved to reward his new constituents by doubling payments to about 560,000 pensioners and 200,000 public workers. But with prices skyrocketing, those increases are being eaten away. Inflation jumped 38 percent and the cost of food increased by almost half from March through December, regional government data show. "
Not sure the USA is too pretty if you oppose The Deep State
The will of the people and the right to self-determination only matter if those people want to be part of the ziocon ponzi scheme.
Any movement away from the Ponzi results in regime change or invasion/air strikes. The pdtrodollar ponzi must continue at all costs. Even if they have to spray poison on us from above, feed us poison, poison our watwer, mandate poison injections into our children and everything else.
I think most of us here get that.
Upvote from me.
Crimea is Russia. Deal with it.
You are welcome to try to take it back riding Obama and see what happens.
But what? No matter how numerous they are, 'american' voices can not turn insane assumptions into facts.
It is funny how 'americans' are in urge to cling to their fantasy, they abhor reality to such level.
Dude you are the poster child for common core
We don't have any media which are praise Putin at all. ROFL. Media are talking 40% of problems, 40% of stupid pop corn zombie-serials and 20% are news.
I will say more, our news or press do not discuss Putin's actions, msm say what he did and / or show a picture.
Experts say that government could do or should have done, or shouldn't have done
Bad news is a bad news, good news is a good news. ofc it is still propanda but "to Praise Putin" - ROFL
I suppose you prefer the Owrellian Zionist US media-wholly controlled by a a couple of dozen largely Jewish billionaires whose first allegiance is to the Internationalist Banksters and their adopted and stolen homeland in Palestine.
Savvyindallas was indoctirnated into stupid by Common Core before it was Cool.
This is total rubbish, there is considerable opposition media operating in Russia, e.g. Ekho Moskvy, Dozdj, Novaya Gazeta, Slon, countless others! FFS, there are even "opposition" people regularly present on "Puutie oligarch" channels... Can you even name serious "opposition" media in the USSA that many people watch/read? I would actually say that Russia at this point has more media freedoms than the USSA...
Oldie but goodie from Joel Skousen circa 2010 re: Russia's ultimate plan to start WWIII with America. May be nuts but worth a consideration.
http://www.worldaffairsbrief.com/keytopics/threats.html
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Agreed. It's bats-in-the-belfry nuts. Nevertheless, it seems like it would be a good resource for comic book writers.
Indeed. Skousen is in rotation on Rense.com and even Rense gets impatient with the guy. Skousen isn't as totally batshit crazy as Tim Rifat but a lower level of batshit crazy.
Air Farce Veteran and author of Strategic Relocation (a book I enjoyed).
His views on foreign policy, not so much.
That article certainly foretold the current Russian operations.
Puttie has the heart of Stalin and will starve the Russian population to prove it.
The situation and plight of the people in now Russian controlled Crimea is simply a sneak peak of Puttie's regard for the "people."
what a stupid statement -you clearly are totally ignorant of the evil of the Georgian Stalin as well as the character of Putin. I suppose you want to compare the psychopathic murderous Great Purges of Stalin with Putin's imprisoning and running off a few billionaire psychopathic Jewish Oligarchs who looted and raped Russia. Good luck with that analogy.
Puutie is running his own purges. Certainly he is a psychopathe. The only billionaires he has opposed are those who supported political opponents. Whatever he plundered from them and international investors was distributed to his own criminal associates, while he gets a cut of the spoils.
Don't worry about the future of the average Russian. Just write down how conditions are today and be assured that it will be increasingly worse every day foreward.
Good stick of fantasy. Notice how 'americans' are compelled to take even more shelter in fantasy everytime.
Hmmm brought on by circumcissionist trauma no doubt , poor things , need therapy
useless talking
Crimea is still celebrating
Skousen is nuts...some kind of cold war obsessive
"Playing chess w/ obama is like playing a pigeon. he knocks over all the pieces and shits on the board" Vlad Putin We are like a whiney little 8 year old brat when not getting what we want. I'm not playing with you anymore and I'm going to try and tell all my friends not to play with you anymore too! That'll show him.
Sanctions ARE war in another form.
The banksters need to repay us.
I'm still waiting for Putin's "gold for BTUs" move.
This guy is a moron. I was in Russia, in a provincial city (not the capitol cities like St P and Moscow where the money taps are still flowing), and talked to the locals.
Putin has been given free rein over the last number of years, he is popularm even if everyone does know that he is corrupt - they don't care, because he is "our SOB". Yes, the sanctions have been successfully blamed on external factors - for now.
But if prices start rising too much and Putin ever looks weak, they will turn on him.
Yeah, like they turned on Stalin, or Brezhnev. I suggest you hold your breath and wait...
Puutie is certainly a Stalin wannabe. Current Russian economic dependance on oil make it more likely he will succeed.
All communist governments devolve into totalitarian governments. The same route is followed by the countries dependent upon oil production and sale. First use of the cash is to build up police state, then strengthen military. Just enough leads out of that useage to keep the population in potatoes and cabbage. Puutie has had the perfect opportunity to reinforce his totalitarian rule.
"All communist governments devolve into totalitarian governments."
Czechoslovakia... what a den of tyranny!
Vietnam...don't look for a free market here!
Mongolia...most definitely ruled by secret police.
East Germany... where the next Hitler will come from, according to your theory.
United States... no totalitarian tendencies here, thank God. We can vote for Tweedledee or Tweddledum using our freedom-enhancing Diebold voting machines. We also get to choose from 500 corporate channels on our corporate televison sets that don't spy on us.
Last I heard, China is a terrible place... /s
It's really too bad that I happen to know a thing or two about comunist regimes... kind of hard to get fooled on this subject.
You will be surprised that China is less communist than Europe or USA now...
Weird worldline I live in.
(Writing that while checking my GE C204 time machine).
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Made me laugh. So good. What fantasy. 'Americans' unleashed.
Russia is not communist
better worry about your own country....
you dont even know who Stalin is-not sure you even know where Russia is on a map....lol or even the USA!~
dreadnaught,
Stop posting. You copound your evident idiocy as Puutie's Paid Puppy.
Why would anyone want to be Stalin ? Is he the only leader you have ever heard of ? Stalin was an Okhrana agent and needed slave labour much like the US needed Blacks and Chinese Coolies to build infrastructure so he took it with development plans setting quotas for slaves.
Or like we're turning on Hope and Chains and the his bronzed republican ass licker?
uh huh.
It is better to be a corrupt and not a homosexuality sponsor like Obama.
Obamma is NOT "our SOB" he works along with all of Congress, for the Bankers
I didn't mention Obama - the Russians consider Putin their own pitbull. So he might be dangerous, but, he is "ours" from their perspective.
I would love to trade Russia our Flaming Homosexual Kenyan President for Putin. And, we don't look back.
It will not work, too late...
No need to trade for the gerbil Puutie. Just wait two more years and Obammie will be cone.
How many years until Puutie is out of office? The FSB/KGB will make sure Puutie rules for life.
I'd like to see a cage match between Augustus and Kowalli. I know who I'd put my money on.
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Ah, ah, does agreed with likely resultment of wagering on competings matter.
Howevertheless, must keep bearings in mind on US citizen special defends capability. 'American' ability to fabricate a cocoon of fantasy to shield from the most immediate reality always stands impressive.
baby talk
im no spelling cop-but after reading many of your posts....GO GET A GED!!!
i agree with you! Putin would get this country moving again
I would love a 13% flat income tax rate.
but because we're so free, we have the IRS and it's 30k page (or is it 60k) tax code.
My summary of the US tax code: You, taxpayer, are fucked. You wiill be compelled with force to pay for it. And you will like it because you're told it's voluntary and without the graft, there would be no roads or schools -- OMG THE CHILDREN! Unless you're wealthy enough to afford a fancy CPA and/or structure your 'income' as capital gains then write off your expenses I guess.
Us peons just pay. No tax on net income for us like the corps. We are taxed on gross, bitchez. BEcause corporations are people who get special rights but have no responsibilty whatsoever.
For a country that has great natural and human resources, Russia does seem to continually find new ways to shoot themselves in the foot.
the above is an example of "the earth is flat" thinking
Is that the topic of your middle school graduation paper?
The way you post here makes me think you're still writing yours.