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Stocks Stumble On Chatter Of 'Contingency Planning For Dirty Greek Exit'

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The S&P 500 and Dow futures are now trading back below the pre-Greek Talks Fail levels from Monday on desk chatter from a New York think-tank claiming contingency planning for a "dirty exit" are being made...

 

 

NY think tank report on Greece said to say Greece and the Eurogroup may still strike a short-term deal tomorrow but contigency plans for a "dirty exit" are being made, as reported by Ran Squawk.

Reports also says that the stand-off has gone beyond an argument over wording, and that creditors are losing trust they had in the Greek government and are doing contingency planning for a "dirty exit" from the program.

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As Goldman recently warned,

That said, there are aspects that leave us more worried than we have been since the start of the Euro area crisis. The confrontation between Greece and its European creditors is taking place against different political constraints than on previous occasions. The new Greek government has to be able to claim at home that the program agreed on by its predecessors is all but defunct. While the European partners can agree to modify the content of the program, as we have seen occur in other program countries, they cannot abandon previous arrangements. In our view, the risk of a miscalculation in the negotiations remains high and will peak between now and month-end, when the current program ends.

 

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To mitigate the risk of a failure of the two sides reaching an agreement by the end of the month, investors could consider buying deep out-of-money put options spanning this horizon on liquid equity indices. Given the systemic nature of the ‘shock’, we doubt that even the major markets would be unaffected.

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WTI is also sliding rapidly towards a key test level...

 

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Thu, 02/19/2015 - 10:15 | 5803062 FreeShitter
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Buy the Tyler Dip.

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 10:25 | 5803106 max2205
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I'd be selling those puts

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 10:31 | 5803135 Truther
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"#fuckthatEUbrothel"

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 10:45 | 5803201 flacon
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" Given the systemic nature of the ‘shock’, we doubt that even the major markets would be unaffected."
So that's bullish, right? /sarc 

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 11:27 | 5803278 ukspreads
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Fails to mention Nikkei Futures, which have broken up and are now well above the Dow

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 11:22 | 5803402 DavidC
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Sarc maybe but NASDAQ is on a tear.

DavidC

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 16:31 | 5804978 Farqued Up
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Apple throwing its weight around.

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 10:42 | 5803183 spastic_colon
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equity markets have not peaked, maybe mid march for 2015, too much sucker 401k $$ still coming in and nasdaq still under 5k

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 10:15 | 5803063 dirtyfiles
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finally

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 10:18 | 5803071 Stoploss
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"Fuck the EU"

Sell Gold?!?!?!

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 10:19 | 5803077 Racer
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"they cannot abandon previous arrangements"

Shock, horror of course they CAN'T, the banksters lose out even a tiny bit??  Absolutely no way will they agree to that

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 10:20 | 5803078 swass
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Why do they need to go through this back and forth?  Just pull a SNB and boom, done.

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 10:20 | 5803079 Raoul_Luke
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I keep thinking this Grexit will knock investors out of their QE stupor so I wish it would happen already so I can see if I'm right.

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 10:21 | 5803080 Keltner Channel Surf
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Hope 'dirty' describes the exit, or the Greeks'll be even more angry.  Is this a Drexit?  'Dirty Exit?' - like a raccoon from a tub of molasses ...

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 10:21 | 5803081 HonkyShogun
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"Dirty Greek Exit" sounds just nasty.

 

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 10:29 | 5803126 inevitablecollapse
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not to be confused with the "dirty sanchez" and "glass bottom boat"

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 10:46 | 5803211 HonkyShogun
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Or the Philly Sidecar?

 

No go ahead, look that one up.

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 15:29 | 5804667 Zero_Head (not verified)
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That's also known as a Philthy Obama

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 15:32 | 5804683 Zero_Head (not verified)
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"Dirty Greek Exit" sounds just nasty.

 

Not to Obama it doesn't, he thinks a man's anus is a sex organ.

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 10:22 | 5803087 LawsofPhysics
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Accountability?  Will Goldman Sachs be providing a refund for cooking Greece's books in order to get them in the E.Z. to begin with?

Oh, do tell...

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 10:25 | 5803102 ShorTed
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+10 - excellent point

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 10:29 | 5803124 LawsofPhysics
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FYI-  If they were held accountable, all the GS executives and owners would simple get even richer by shorting themselves....

Fucked up world on borrowed time...

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 10:31 | 5803133 overmedicatedun...
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bankgovernmentbank..seems we cannot seperate them. all this trauma on common folk to save the banks, it's as if the banks are the only concern of berlin and brussels. stupid they are.

the captured EU cannot think outside of an economy not dominated by banks, because they are paid not to.

early american presidents feared this very thing. and here we are.

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 11:06 | 5803308 lakecity55
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+!

I bet everyone here is familiar with the T Jefferson quote about 'private banks!'

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 11:17 | 5803346 overmedicatedun...
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an ol whiteman's prediction..

'If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their  currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks…will deprive the people of  all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered…. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. – Thomas Jefferson in the debate over the Re-charter of the Bank Bill (1809)'

homeless 2015: renters not home owners, cars leased or a loan of 84 months, taxes owed every year never to be paid in full..that's the wests dilemma..the common man only owns debt.

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 10:22 | 5803089 Squid Viscous
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Cramer just said we're definitely gona retest $43 WTI, yesterday he said we definitely already saw the low at $43, what an azzhat...

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 10:29 | 5803125 wmbz
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I am going to go way out on a limb here, but I believe most of Cramers viewers all 8 or 10 of them possess the comprehension level an early grade schooler. So they just do as he sez!

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 10:26 | 5803107 Kaiser Sousa
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oh boy....

 

 

 

"Greece gonna do this..."

"Greece gonna do that..."

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 10:27 | 5803115 max2205
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It's all been dirty for 10 years plus 

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 10:27 | 5803116 Philo Beddoe
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NY think tank? I think that is what you call an echo chamber populated by deaf mutes. 

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 11:32 | 5803470 Unix
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philo, you give them too much credit...

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 10:33 | 5803151 jmcadg
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Love a dirty exit ;)

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 10:35 | 5803157 cheech_wizard
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 "Janet, please pick up the nearest Wall Street courtesy telephone." 

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 10:38 | 5803167 FrankieGoesToHo...
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Greece wont leave.  Money will be given at the 11th hour.  This rerun is sooo boring.

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 10:55 | 5803240 LawsofPhysics
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perhaps, but who's money exactly?   that's probably the only important bit.

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 11:05 | 5803298 Hohum
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Whose

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 11:31 | 5803456 Unix
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ummm, yours and mine, that's whose money they gave to them...

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 10:57 | 5803252 AnthonyScungilli
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What about the secret $16 trillion USD loan to european banks, among others. What did they put as collateral? These criminals are living in lala land

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 11:06 | 5803304 MsCreant
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Dirty Greek Exit Plan--is that some form of Withdrawal Method? Never trust them when they say "Only the tip."

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 11:30 | 5803444 Unix
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This is all so much a farce. It won't matter in the end anyway, it's all going down!

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 11:46 | 5803548 bahaar
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Iraq/Libya with their oil-fileds are burning.  Greece with it's shipping industry is falling off the edges.  And yet oil is plummeting?  Nothing makes sense.

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 11:56 | 5803603 Batman11
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The disintegration after a Wall Street crash (1929/2008) is following its usual path.

Just ignore the markets, they have no bearing on reality and are juiced up on trillions and trillions of QE.

 

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 11:53 | 5803589 Batman11
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A dirty Greek exit would inflict the most pain on Greece.

Since they are worried about other nations following Greece, the last thing they want is Greece leaving the Euro and doing well.

It all makes sense.

 

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 12:04 | 5803652 Boxed Merlot
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...As Goldman recently warned,   "...In our view, the risk of a miscalculation in the negotiations remains high..."

 

One can only hope Greece is receiving counsel from William K. Black.  I suppose even he could be bought but I still have Hope, regardless of the den of theives residing in every statehouse of the Union.  (Domestic and Foreign) 

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 13:52 | 5804134 Full Nelson
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Can't wait for minor banking tremors to shoot gold, silver and cryptos to the moon.

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 14:57 | 5804471 Chuck Knoblauch
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Stocks stumble on their own vomit after the party.

Getting ready to gorge their bellies again.

Aint the Coliseum fun.

Everyday is a holiday.

This will last forever!!!

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