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Dutch To Greeks: "Suck It Up Or Return To The Drachma"
The front page of Holland's De Telegraph newspaper has a simple message for The Greeks:
Roughly translated - "Swallow or Return To The Drachma"
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It would appear no matter what the outcome of today's meeting, resentment and bitterness across the union will only increase.
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However, Eurogroup Chairman Jeroen Dijsselbloem just uttered some "optimistic" tones...
“It’s quite complicated, I’m talking to the main players trying to find solutions. It will cost some time but there’s still reason for some optimism, but it’s very difficult.”
and EURUSD shot up in hopeful exuberance...
Confusion reigns.
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Greeks to Dutch... OK [DieselBOOM getting fucked by a goat will be the artwork]
LOL, cat fight. Slap, slap.
What a show we have going on. Rather entertaining.
I need to go back and find the EU founding paperwork but kicking Greece out could be a little tougher than the lords of reality think......
I wonder what is really being said in these meetings.
Why not ask the Greeks in a public vote?
That is a fucking great idea.
De Telegraaf = borderline taboid. The nickname is De TeleLeugen (The TeleLie) or De TeleVaag (The TeleVague).
ZioCon rag?
Double post. Apologies.
Are the Dutch telling Greeks to swallow?
I FARTA in your general direction.
Unless as a country I could print the Euro why in the fuck would I want the Euro.
Because most Money is NOT M1 and you want access to capital markets for borrowing costs
And the banksters are gatekeepers for both.
And maybe because governments get suckered into the Euro by their own greed. It is an opportunity to borrow vast sums with no intention of paying most of it back, and then dole out the proceeds to cronies and family members. After that great work is done, you withdraw and default.
Mario will put his finger in the dyke. Don't worry.
Wouldn't want to do that in the USSA after Hitlery gets elected.
Ew!
Which one, Hilary or Janet?
Vicky.
If Mario lays a hand on Janet......
From what I understand (from an article on this site I beleive), there is a printing press within the soverign boundary of Greece. They are currently authorized to print EU notes. As far as i know, the bureaucrats in Brussles do not have a repo squad. So, regardless of the outcome, what is to prevent Greece from printing EU notes? The honor system?
The letter "Y" in front of the number
Lol. Show me a greek who cant modify a printing plate to remove a Y.
You think they print using plates ?
Dude, I dont know how they print. My question is, what is to prevent greece from counterfitting. If a "Y" is the only difference in notes. I cant imagine there is a high technical hurdle to print without a Y. Just ask the greek mafia down the street to run the facility.
Some deceits are more serious than others. Abusing the right to print would be an act of war I should think.
Tinkering with data is merely a white lie that all countries do these days.
Not only the letter in front of the number, but if you add all the digits of each note you get the country code as well.
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-1693427/How-to-find-out-...
The Dutch can get used to a Northern P,X Euro and wa and see how their tulips tch the Club Med Euro go south with France straddling the line. It will allow the Dutch to peg themselves to the Danish Krona and see how their horticultural products sell.........at present tomatoes cost more in Greece than in NL.
There is no point in continuing with this farce and throttling Spain, Italy, Portugal, Greece who are simply not able to compete without using illegal labour from North Africa and not paying taxes........Germany pays a lot of subsidies to keep their wine sector afloat and soft loans are abundant from public-sector banks.
It is time East Germany which has Greek productivity had Greek living standards instead of huge municipal transfers from West German towns and cities. Three states in Germany support the rest through transfer payments
Give East Germany back to Putin.
"I’m talking to the main players trying to find solutions"
Are you talking to the Rockefellers or even to the Rothschilds?
Very good! They should have some free money to pay off the Greek debt. Just go for it!
When you managed to annoy the Dutch....you really ARE annoying!
The Dutch are THE most laid-back bunch I've ever met!
You are ridiculous, the Dutch are supercilious and arrogant but have essentially ridden on German coat-tails. Laid back ? Complacent more like
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/supercilious
I am Dutch and I don't consider us laid back. We're not as uptight as the Germans though. In NL you need to comply with the unwritten rule of 'gezelligheid'. Be like the rest. Don't do anything out of the ordinary unless that becomes mainstream. Then you need to comply with that. Oh, and don't question the royal family. 80% of the population supports that. If you question that then people get really edgy. It is easy to corner people in discussions about why it is rather foolish and infantile to have a 'royal family' but that is too confrontational for most people.
Foolish to have a Royal Family? Of course they have a purpose. Without all the royal trappings and hoopla, they'd be just another boring gang of pedophiles.
What is it about these "royal families" that leads them to pederasty?
Inbreeding
I've met some very uptight Dutch people in my life and they were not even part of the "Dutch Reform" community. Maybe the folks in Amsterdam are liberal and genuinely relaxed but outside of that, I think you're more "German" than you care to admit.
Folks in Amsterdam have a big mouth and they think they are all that. But is is just that: a big mouth.
And hey, don't say we're German!!1! That really ticks us off! Ahem, composure, composure.
I don't mind. I know plenty of Germans that are cool and relaxed.
id really like to know how the Greek people like being called and treated like BITCHES by almost all of their fellow EU debt slave nations...
im mean, how much abuse can these sorry ass broke mother fuckers take and still be able to wake up each fucking day...
fucking pathetic.
btw:how did u like that ramp in the Dow...Tyler's just stop with the "selloff" shit until GOD KNOWS WHEN...
Liberation reported that Varoufakis and Djisselbloem almost had a physical confrontation at Monday's Eurogroup, after Djisselbloem replaced Moscovici's nonpaper with his own. YV is said to have screamed 'LIAR' at him.
So... not much patience, no. EU are really up against it.
Don't plan a greek holiday any time soon.
I'd say 'Fuck off you wooden shoe wearing clowns....we're goin with Russia!'
A lot of people talk about Greece going to the Russians, but I have yet to hear anyone talk about Russia's interests. If you were Russia, who would you rather cozy up with: Greece or Germany? If Greece is the strategic choice, fine, but it's a question worth asking.
are they mutually exclusive? why not do beneficial deals with both greece and germany?
Angela, Angela, it will only be a small Air Base.
Now, let's talk about a gas deal...
Why the hell would Russia want Greek debt? Greece has proved they are a debtor nation with no intent on fixing their socialist spending.
Not if Vlad finances them and has Russian Mafia collect the taxes.
I hear they are pretty tough customers.
As David Coverdale of Whitesnake so eloquently put it, "If you don't like it. Spit it out."
I love the old dracmas:
https://bungaradio.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/dracma.jpg
you'll sooner see yahoofakeass' head on a spike than on a bill. what a naive preening prick. nobody believes anything he says anymore, because he has said everything already to everybody, promises all around irrespective of his ability to deliver.
Guys, I've found the Kool-Aid drinking statist!
I'm sure that shook the Greeks.
Jesus, the Telegraaf is a tabloid, people. It feeds the underbelly of people. Actually still quite moderate compared to other tabloids abroad.
I consider the NY Times a tabloid for American marxists. Oops, I mean progressives.
Tabloids have tits and ass somewhere in their content. NYT, not so much.
The NYT gives progressives boners.
Meanwhile, NPR is like phone-sex for them.
Tower of Babel is beginning to crumble
In ancient days, drachmas were made of silver. With 10 pieces of silver you could buy a nice toga. If you had 10 silver drachmas today, you could still buy a nice toga!
Return to the Drachma!
The NYT gives 'progressives' boners.
Regressives.
"Hell is empty and all the devils are here..." William Shakespeare
Soon with my 10 silver coins would be able to buy me a nice apartment by the sea in Greece....
There's an idea...use some of that Aegean beachfront to lure entrepreneurs to Greece. One year free rent and plenty of tax breaks and other perks, but you have to establish a functioning business that returns a profit to Greece and its people as well, with jobs and increased business activity...Then they can choose to stay on, or take their profits and leave, leaving the business behind for Greece.
With fewer and fewer places for investors to go and more onerous restrictions on small businesses in developed nations, it might prove very attractive to an up-and-coming concern willing to take on some risk.
Greece could be a kind of 'nursery' for small businesses, letting them grow away from the big global concerns that stamp them out everywhere else.
Good Idea.
Greeks have laws prohibiting that.
Funny how the Dutch have a problem with Greece "stealing'....
when stealing each other's bicycles and German cars are a National Pride...
and over the last 5 years stealing Greek assets....
soon after Grexit these drachma notes will bear exponential notation.
Forget banknotes...silver Drachmas...A one year 'quarantine' to keep them in-country and everything else out. Don't let the new drachmas leave the country...shouldn't be that hard, silver can't be moved electronically, and has weight to it in any significant amounts.
After a time, start minting and selling those silver drachmas to anyone who may want them. (I've a feeling they'd be very, very popular, and sell at a considerable premium.) Keep 'em at Maple Leaf purity, and slap an excellent design on them, and they wouldn't be able to keep up with demand.
It could be profitable for them. Then they can use some profits to 'buy' crappy Euro fiat and use THAT to pay their international creditors...they might get a fairly decent exchange rate if silver goes up, which it probably would if they went to a silver drachma.
If they had a few guys who know how to play the currency markets, they might even make a Soros-style killing with the right bets at the right time...
THAT would be a delicious irony...trash the currency you owe the debt in, then use better currency to buy the devalued shit, and use THAT to pay 'em back.
Maple-leaf purity would get scuffed up like crazy unless encapsulated.
Real money SHOULD be in capsules.
You make too much sense ... whattsa matta you .. you mean the status quo and SSDD thinking is not working .,,, your ideas do not fit in with what the oligarchs have in mind .. permanent debt slavery into the 5th generation.
This whole Greek thing is starting to get on my nerves. Put some real meat on the table, like Spain & Portugal.
Dutch Interpol are like Dancing Mossads.
What a shower of CUNTS.
Germans are not the only people in EU who do not like getting bilked on the debt. Dutch politicians, as well as many others, did all kinds of happy talk for their citizens when the last advance was made to Greeks. If the Greeks can just take a walk on the payments, many of those pols will be out and may be on the way to a cheap Greek reitrement.
The Dutch are getting above themselves. With Dieselboom being behind the first bail-in in Cyprus, its .gov handling the mass criminal cover-up of the shooting down of MH-17 by Poroshenko's air force and now we're back with Dieselboom giving Greece ultimatums.
The Netherlands is an insignificant country that should focus on growing tulips and tomatoes.
The Dutch invented the stock market. Which to me is the worst thing to happen to the world. Most disgusting assholes are the fuckheads that are paper shufflers and always talking about stocks. Slimeballs.
"Also Dutch East India Trading COmpany of 1600s . given a monopoly by the Dutch govt. to do business in the area of the Indian Ocean .. monopolies go way back .. the Dutch helped invent them.. no offense DutchBoy.
Netherlands is run by KIKE roaches. Get ALL the fucking KIKES out of Europe.
They can't repay... it doesn't matter...they aren't getting their money back. If the lenders were smart they would shut off all lines of credit now and into the future. Let Greece borrow from the Russians and Chinese...
The US is in the same boat, but we have nukes and aircraft carriers and insane politicians...so our lenders will probably play along.
Dutch seem to be tougher nazis, then the Germans have been.
Ashamed to be Dutch, they are as dumb as Americans. acdtually believe Russia was behind MH17
I would love to travel to Greece again and exchange my dollars for their drachma. Greece would once again be the top travel spot in Europe for both Americans and Europeans. The Greek economy will thrive with the increase of tourist business and the influx of hard currencies.
It's the ad for a revival of the Diary of Anne Frank that gets me.
Back to the Drachma and we go back to the Guilder. Yippeee
Which part of Cut your losses and run doesn't the Euro understand.
Yep,...Greece will sucked it to the Troika alright with a straigth out default and immediate non payment of all "debt".
"slikken of terug naar de Drachma"(Dutch) means: swallow (it) or back to the Drachma.
My advice to Greece. Tell the Troika to fuck off. INvite Russia and China in and build lots of bases.
What the fuck?! People think that comment is optimistic?! I DON'T WANT TO LIVE ON THIS PLANET ANYMORE
Hello drachma, nice to see you
It's been a long time
You're just as lovely as you used to be
How's your new debt
Are you happy?
Hope you're doing fine
Just to know it means so much to me
What's that drachma? How am I doing?
Guess I'm doing all right
Except I can't sleep and I cry all night till dawn
What I'm trying to say is I love you and I miss you
And I'm so sorry that I did you wrong
Look up drachma
Let me spend you just for old time sake
Let me hold you in my hands one more time
Thank you drachma
May God bless you and may each trade you take
Bring you closer to the things you seek to find
Goodbye Euro, gotta go now
Gotta try to find a way to lose these mem'ries
Of a debt so warm and true
And if you should ever find it in your heart to forgive me
Come back Euro, I'll be waiting for you
The Telegraaf.. Does not represent the Dutch anymore than they did in w2 while printing pro nazi propaganda(fact). Just more pr for the sheeple...
* Propaganda toeter.
But then again the whole Dutch vs Greeks thing is boiling over. Even my dear old sweet mother is calling Greeks thief's of the first order. Stil no mention of our own gov peddling debt do ;)
Why did Greece join the Euro again?
Let's see, if gas and oil prices jump, Drachma would weaken purchasing power.
Weak Drachma is supposed to result in higher exports.
But what do the Greeks export? Turkey exports a lot of stuff, what does Greece have? Offshore funds? Nobody in the Euro really has access to the offshore oil in Cyprus.
Greece does have medicine. What have they done to prop that sector up?
The riots? protest - may turn off tourists.
Greeks are painting themselves into a corner.