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Europe "Isolates" Putin? Considers "Reframing" Energy Relations With Russia
It appears President Obama's "costs" imposed on Russia have boomerang'd just too much for Europe to take. As Reuters reports, The EU is seeking to create a single energy market, based on cross-border connections to improve security of supply and reduce dependence on Russia, which supplies roughly one third of EU energy. The headline pivot away from Putin, likely misses the fact that there is very little a stagnating Europe can do, even in the medium term, to 'reduce' dependence on Washington's nemesis.
The European Union will consider "reframing" energy relations based on market conditions with Russia when the time is right and for now is focusing on building a strategic gas partnership with Ukraine, a draft document shows.
The European Commission, the EU executive, is seeking to create a single energy market, based on cross-border connections to improve security of supply and reduce dependence on Russia, which supplies roughly one third of EU energy.
Next week, the Commission is expected to publish formally its strategy on an energy union.
"When the conditions are right, the EU will consider reframing the energy relationship with Russia based on a level playing field in terms of market opening, fair competition, environmental protection and safety, for the mutual benefit of both sides," a draft of the Energy Union Package seen by Reuters says.
For now, it says particular attention will be paid to upgrading "the strategic partnership on energy" with Ukraine.
It says it will address Ukraine's importance as a transit country, as well as improving infrastructure and Ukraine's energy efficiency to reduce its dependence on imports.
Russia's long-standing gas relations with the EU and Ukraine, the main transit route for Russian gas to the EU, have deteriorated since Russia's seizure of Ukraine's Crimea region last year.
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Good luck with that 'strategy' change...
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That pipeline will NEVER get built.
I guess the EU had best join Obama in arming ISIS so the Saudi-Qatari pipeline can get built through what's left of Iraq and Syria and on to the EU.
Plan B: Europe could become energy self sufficient simply by converting political EU BS in biomass. Guess the american/german plan to overthrow putin and turn russia into an energy vassal of the EU did work out so well.....
We really need to stop fighting Israel's wars for them. After they're done using us they plan on slaughtering us anyways. Better we bomb Israel and end the terrorist problem in the Middle East once and for all.
Print natty...how cool would that be.
Just Do ItTM. Cool.
Goddammit, we'll ship Europe our excess oil and that'll keep 'em warm in the winter, keep our American workers worked and increase our exports while stopping Putin in his tracks. God Bless America.
And if that don't work, we'll buy that picture of Albert Camus eating his roasted penis on a stick they have in that Louvers place and they'll have plenty of cash top pay him which they can't do because we cut 'em off from the banks. And we'll just confiscate everybody's bonds so we don't have to pay. And nationalize all their gold they have in Fort Knox and them other places. And not sell 'em any excess butter or rice. We'll make 'em all drive Volts and register their firearms and be nice to all the Europeans and give them Obamacare. And teach those rag-heads a thing or two while we're at it. I mean, those Godless fuckers, we oughta team up with ISIS and have them invade Moscow for us. Teach 'em a thing or two, it would. And then when they win Russia we'll have them all have jobs because of us and everybody'll be happy as frogs in cold water on a sunny day. Shit's smarter than a ugly dog on a short leash in July.
Who thinks up this shit?
More-fucking-over, reread the first sentence. Do it twice. Please
"The European Union will consider "reframing" energy relations based on market conditions with Russia when the time is right and for now is focusing on building a strategic gas partnership with Ukraine"
Based on, when the time is right, will consider and but for now are the operative terms, meaning nothing'll be done in our lifetime.
More MSM hypehooplagotowar shit
Welcome to the Putin-nanny!
Grab some home-made hooch (Ukranian type is best) and let the music begin.
jb
You're a genius Knuckles. With the BDI hitting record lows it should be worthwhile repurposing some of those cargo ships and bingo! Win/Win!!
Meanwhile Germany is shutting down it's fission reactors.
RE: "That pipeline will never get built"
Well LNG storage plants have already been built.
You still peddling your LNG will save Europe theory?
Man, you really are a one trick pony.
BTW, do not see this as another opportunity to expound, and do not bother replaying your trite shtick all over again; it will bore everyone to tears.
"Well LNG storage plants have already been built."
As long as the American LNG will cost more than the Rooshan gas, fuggedit. You can keep it. We Europeans are broke (and stingy).
We really need to stop fighting Israel's wars for them. After they're done using using us they're going to slaughter us anyways. Better we bomb Israel and end the problem for once and for all.
Haven't you heard? It's a Zionist World Order...
I live in China. We don't have Jews.
What are you talking about? Don't you have Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Citibank, AIG, etc in China?
They have far less influence in Asian countries (except maybe Japan who is a vassal state since 1947), but at least they don't teach the $hoahTM and Jew victimization at school...
How India & China Explain the Holocaust to school kids
Outside HK, I have never seen any evidence of any of them. They are bit players. Laowei. Outsiders who are just visiting temporarily.
Rod:
I've heard a few people here on ZH mention the Jewish Participation in the Opium Wars - which would imply their factions' (of course, not all Jewish Persons are Drug Peddlers - I've also read about plenty of USAmerican Houses making their mint on the Trafficking) influence in HKG and elsewhere in CHN.
Tie the factions to the Freemasons/HSBC(Tied into the Five-Eyed Hegemony), and a few Western Bankers / Businesses / VC Firms (laundered Money at work) then you should have a clearer picture.
HSBC does not participate wholeheartedly in America's War On Drugs, so they are vilified.
Not just America's War...
They first profiteered from the Opium Trade...
http://mondediplo.com/2010/02/04hsbc
...and then this stint in Money Laundering...
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2012/jul/11/hsbc-failure-control-mon...
Last time I checked, I don't think too many people in Asia liked the idea of having thousands ensnared by the Opium Trade enforced by the British (or any other National Power).
I'm all for shutting down and kicking out Banks who sponsor Criminal Organizations to this magnitude.
How come the checker board looks like this then?
http://lumberjocks.com/projects/36125
Ever heard of the Samson Option, son?
I was listening to a Jim Willi radio broadcast a couple of weeks ago from back in Jan 2014 . Willi absolutely nailed the Saudi oil price war well before it ever surfaced. Willi talked about the verbal exchange between Putin and the Saudi Prince Bandar He was absolutely spot on when he said that Putin would drive a wedge between the Saudi's and the US ,Now that everything has unfolded, his prediction was right, the US have now turned on the Saudi's and have started linking them to 911. The Saudi's have priced the US oil producers out of the market. All the NEW military hardware was Chinese at the latest military display by the Saudi's and the biggest beneficiaries from the Saudi oil sale was the BRICS countries mainly China that purchased most of the cheap oil . http://youtu.be/jbhxPRamhHQ .17mins 30secs into the broadcast
Looks like Putin is gonna wait for summer to freeze them out.
Why should he?
Russia has been the most reliable energy supplier.
Not even the collapse of the Soviet empire, or the collapse of their currency and the bancruptcy of Russia did affect it. Not once in six decades Russia did not fullfill it's contract.
The problems have begun, once Soros and Ziofriends started the first color revolution in Ukraine. From that time on, this transit country was stealing gas and blackmailing Russia.
Securing energy supply means to get rid of the Ziopuppets in Ukraine or build pipelines so Ukraine is no longer needed.
Pipelines from Russia through Turkey and on to southern Europe will flow...
Or perhaps to China. Russia plans to have a chinese gas piple ready by 2019. Russia is probably done with Europe (or will be when the chinese pipeline is completed).
Europe will likely have to resort to US coal imports, if the US and/or the EU isn't a complete basket case by then. Odds don't look good for the EU lasting another 4 or 5 years (with a Greek Exit sometime this year). The US Gov't debt will likely top $24 Trillion.
... through Greece ...
One can understand the logic of Kremln analysts. Ukraine is to collapse in bankruptsy with no way to pay for gas by itself, so sooner or later, likely in 2015, it will start stealing the gas from EU flow. The pipes are not maintained properly since they were bult 30 or so years ago. Noone is ready to invest to maintain it without confirmation that Russia would be still using it in future. So, due to blocking by EU South Stream - did they really plan to blackmail Putin ?! - Russia found the way only slighly different but to the territory of Turkey. EU idiots still cannot beleive it and instead of starring building a new infrastructure in Greece and beyond are refusing to move on and accept the reality.
dup
I was previously unaware that Russia had "seized" Crimea.......
They're so crafty that they managed to travel back through time and build a naval base there! Those Russkies!
Russia certainly did seize Crimea. Three times in fact - in 1783, in 1857 and again in 1944.
Please show me a country that hasnt seized a land or two. USA seized hawaii, Texas, Califronia, New Mexico, Nevada, etc, etc.
But we bought Manhattan fair and square for a few handfuls of trinkets. Fair and Square. Why, we even gave blankets to Indians so they wouldn't freeze to death on the Long Marches.
Actually those Indians screwed those Dutch, and they knew it at the time since they didn't own Manhattan, but sold it nevertheless.
Bankers. Fucking bankers, always from Manhattan.
alaska 1867 also
Yes, the little-known tribe of Manhattan Indians; rumored to have been descendants from a Khazar shipwreck on the Island hundreds of years ago.
Yeah, and so many of those blankets were generously salted with smallpox to keep them momentarily warmer too.
China and Tibet
Pakistan/China and Kashmere
The US didn't actually "seize" Texas. Texas won independence from Mexico, before becoming a part of the US 10 years later. The US, a former colony of a European power seizing territory from Mexico, a former colony of a European power. Post colonial Spaniards have no claim to jack.
That's exactly what happened with Crimea. it won independence from ukraine, before becoming a part of the Russia.
The Texians just did whatever they had to do to keep their slaves. That meant they had to secede from Mexico, and then secede from the US. The US didn't finally "Seize" Texas until the end of the US Civil War. And even after surrender, Texian slave masters didn't tell their slaves they were legally free until months after. Hence the observance of June 19th as "Juneteenth." Among the only survivors of the Alamo was a slave of Alamo Commander William Travis, whom the Mexicans decided not to execute (unlike the rest of the survivors who surrendered, whom the Mexicans just executed). Of course the Mexicans didn't execute "Joe" and released him, as a PR move.
If rejoining the British Empire would have given them back the right to own slaves, they would have done that, too.
Actually Joe was returned to the heirs of Travis. Couple of years later he stole two horses and escaped. Sorry, Mexico could really have cared less and Juneteenth wasn't until June 19, 1865 the slaves of south Texas learned of the Emancipation. Had nothing to do with the Alamo. I do not like slavery of any type but dislike history modifications even more.
The unCivil War eliminated states sovereignty which was the real reason the South stood up to the DC criminals of the time. The nation became the singular The United States rather than the old these united States. It was all finalized in the decades from 1900 - 1920.Slavery was already being phased out in the south at the time of the uncivil war.
Today we are all slaves to the same government that takes credit of freeing slaves. A tyrannical monster that treats us as a cash cow and enemies of the state.
The only thing uncivil war decided was whether we would be a constitutional republic or just another shitbox democratic oligarchy controlled by banks. Guess which.
Looking around it's pretty obvious we turned out better than they hoped for,,, a bunch of sniveling factions of whiners trying to 'legally' steal as much as they can from the other factions.
You left out Puerto Rico and everything in the South Pacific.
I believe 'seizure' is what you call it when Russia reduces troop count.....Ok I don't have the real numbers but I think they had 25,000 before the vote for annexation...I think it may have been reduced afterwards.....at any rate to call it an invasion is silly. We get that many people a week coming up through Mexico and no one calls that an invasion.....they do?
Who has Vlad's suicide watch tonight?
Who has your mother's suicide watch tonite? She must feel horrible for not flushing you
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She tried several times, but he was a floater.
You've been here for less than a year, I'd suggest not making comments on longevity...
This is "5e0V2a3", "Amerikan Patriot," I believe "Freedom123", and no doubt many others I can't quite recall. Cute signature phrase. At least this one hasn't gotten into the dreadful dull copy/pasting taking up acres of screen space like "Amerikan Patriot" did.
Correct on the first two. freedom123 was the return of viedoklis_lv, the Latvian potato troll.
This guy does...
http://www.blacklistednews.com/VIDEO%3A_The_worst_of_creepy_Joe_Biden/42...
Too funny!
Europe is toast. Germany is NOT being responsible.
The United States is on the path of Great Britain in the early 20th century.
This crisis will end very ugly
That would be a best case scenario for the USSA. I'm thinking a USSR style collapse.
I would think all that oil and natty would be on sale now after the ruble's collapse.
Did Europe even have a winter this year?
Did see its been snowing in the Middle East.
What do they call those dried up river beds over there again? The ones that can swallow up an entire division?
"Wahdi's"?
Yeah. Wahdi's Camel Burgers. Great shit. Open roasted over dry aged camel droppings. Doing an IPO next week.
The EU creates problems it doesn't need to solve - over and over again - ignore the USA and recognize that Russia is a dependable, prolific and reasonably cheap supplier
The Ukraine should be starved to death not negotiated with -
imbeciles and vassals
it's not about dependable supplier, it's about pride. They can't admit to themself about failure of europe. They can't admit to themself that they can be independable. They lost a year...
Those genetically predisposed to be parasites will always be...
So when Russia turns off the gas that flows thru Ukraine, Ukraine will feed Europe from their "strategic reserves" long term?
Do the Europeans need a lesson in who pumps their gas initially or are they totally insane? I am totally lost as to where they think that Ukrainian gas originates.
Bizarro!
Hunter Biden doesnt just pump it from his ass?
Porky? Angela here. Could you feed Hunter moar refried beans? The gas pressure here is dropping off. Thanks.
Give them the oil .... whatever happened to the Communist dream .... from each according to his ability .... to each according to his need ? Fucking Banana Republic with nukes !
Nuke the Israeli parasites.
Too many Muslims in Israel .... more than all the Jews .... in all the Muslim countries .... combined !
Hey Ahmed? Is that the range of your so-called intellect? Just curious
Remove their power and shun them.
Killing somebody leaves room for revenge.
Hey, looks like the Cyprus-Israel NG play just became strategic.
expect them to plow down Gaza and drill baby
Time to bomb the arms and legs off more innocent non-Chosenite children.
Why no tears for the 225,000 dead, 4,000,000 displaced of Syria in just a few years? That's 100 times the cumulative death toll in Gaza since 1948.
No, Egypt has that covered.
http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/archive/segment/54aefb0702a7603627000864
Egypt Destroying More Than 1,000 Homes To Double Gaza Strip Buffer ZoneThey can drill under them .... I think it's called "Whip Stocking" .... not sure why ?
Want to learn more about this, read "The Colder War" by Marin Katusa of Casey Research. Great read, full of good information about why Putin is winning and will continue to win, while the US continues to squander what little we have left.
The only cards the US holds is the reserve currency (for now) and a strong military (until the money runs out). I don't know any military family men who will work for free overseas, getting shot at, while mom and the kids starve back home. Morale is already a problem with lots of the troops, and when the dollar collapses, the Military part of the MIC will follow suit in short order.
Russia is very rich in natural resources and Putin is a nationalist who has worked towards harnessing those resources and making his country attractive to trading partners. What has the US done, other than bully our allies into doing what we want them to do? Without a military and the reserve currency we have nothing to offer our allies. At least Putin is for Russia. What about the US? Who do we have working for Murika?
We're fucked. At least until the average person wakes up.
Soldiers are on unemployment or disability now, we use drones to bomb the arms and legs of non-chosenites children.
For a political overview of the petrodollar and what has been happening in the Ukraine and the Middle East, "Observer" has a long but detailed overview in Vineyard of the Saker on what has happened since Bush I, Bush ii, and Obama. It looks like what his prognosis for the future is beginning to play out.
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2015/02/seven-countries-in-five-years....
Wesley Clark alluded to these events about 9 years ago.
Well worth the read.
Even when the USSR and NATO were within a hairs breath of nuclear war, the gas contracts of the USSR with Europe were met in full. In all the time that Russia has contracted gas to Europe, every contract has been filled. A 0% failure rate.
The only reason for Europe to move away from cheap reliable Russian gas is to satisfy the Neoconservative Zionist leadership in Washington DC.
Go ahead Europe, let a zionist elite in Washington convince you you don't want cheap unlimited reliable gas supplies, like those flowing into Germany from the North Stream.
They think they can get LNG from the USSA to replace Russian NG pipelines. LNG only costs 5x more.
That, and in 2013, the US was a net natural gas importer. There's no way we're going to increase NG production enough to make up for Russia.
I'd LOVE to see How that's gonna happen with fracking collapsing...
Oh yes. The LNG-ships sail on the same schedule like the return-our-gold-ships.
Look at the empty horizon.
The problem is to convince investors to fund infrastructure for it. How do they make money selling more expensve stuff???
Dancing with Muslims .... a talent show .... show casing the world's best Muslim dancers !
You Zionist chosenite selfishite parasites would put on a better show. Dancing while sucking baby penises...
Can't suck the little girls .... their clits and labia have been removed .... with razor blades .... FGM !
https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0SO8zwh6udU.PYAzahXNyoA;_ylc=X1MDM...
Are y'all going to get dash cams when you get on over to Mother Russia? Send us some cool videos of your car careening out of control, or maybe getting held up by the mafia or some drunk slob dancing on your hood!
Heartland America .... dash cam .... $39.99 for Value-Club members !
Looks like a "death cross" for Western Europe if they are stupid enough to play "White Chimp's" with Gerogy "Schwartz" Soros as his hurdy gurdy master!...
Must have lots of nukes in those Israeli embassies to arm twist this hard?!!!
That's great news for the blanket makers of the world, winter Sucks.
Remember, as Zero Hedgers are fond of reminding us, Russia is the consummate chess player and it always plays the 'long game'.
Like dissolving itself into 15 separate sovereigns, waiting 20 years, and then slowly reconstituting itself, bit by bit.
That crafty fox Vladimir! :-)
Amerikan Patriot this is your 3 account . Stay alert .
Another legendary Russian 'long game' move: invading Afghanistan, fighting for 8 long years...and then beating a hasty retreat with its tail between its legs.
Those wily Russians! :-)
The Socialist bear .... is not very "sociable" .... on the international level .... they don't network well .... with civilized countries !
You know nothing about this subject.
I guess you missed the US invasion that lasted 13 years and cost 1 Trillion,oh and FAILED.
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics_ukraine/2015/02/19/3627
The fugly Ashkenazim bitch is still in the CONUS 'state department', headquartered in Haifa.
"FUCK THE E.U.!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64ZiM0S0BYM
Haifa? No wonder they don't answer my letters, I have been mailing them to DC!
That she still has a job tells me all I need to know about how far we've fallen.
Russia is not ready for prime time .... the west has redundancy .... Germany, Japan, Korea, England, US, Commonwealth, Europe .... even Israel !
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NEXT UP: HANNITY talks about how he has CHO-SIN the State of Israe-HELL over the Obaminite CONUS! this report will SHOCK YOU! ALSO, he describes how he couldn't vote for Ron Paul (because he is a 'nut-job'). Stay tuned, after this commercial break.
(Cue up the Superbowl ad, honoring America's troops fighing for 'freedumb'. Insert GW talking about being with 'US' or being with the 'terrorists'. Scrub any mention of nanothermite dust in the aftermath of the 'GWOT' inception. INSERT the 'press freedom' ads regarding Hillary and Jeb running for president. In THREE, TWO, ONE...)
Life's a BITCH, 'MONETAS'.
Looks like Israel will rule the Woooorld, fossil fuels bitches! Why couldn't I have been born a rich powerful resourceful Zionist Chosen One? this shit sucks
Regular Israelis .... have more challenging, responsible lives .... than high level State Department employees .... like Marie Harf !
Well yeah, I was just giving a shout out to the Goebbels-Mohammedans of ZH.
Nice working with you FF .... we ran over that Selfie Slaver !
TWO trolls down. One to go!
Monetas, do you understand?
OF COURSE you do.
How do you say 'Bitch ass' in Yiddish? Start by looking in a mirror and repeating the following: 'MONETAS"...
Corporate facsism, or corporate socialism.
Same book (different chapter).
Let's hear YOUR take on this, 'just giving a shout out'.
'falconlight', are you there?
Ask your handlers in the corporate banking complex division how to respond correctly, will you? I would HATE to see you go off on your own, given all those 'banker suicides', and all.
Do yourself a favor, though. Don't get all 'Yiddish' when responding.
Hey Vlad, double the price across the board!
how you like them there apples
>>> Hey Vlad, double the price across the board!
That can't be done while the present contracts are in force. They expire variously in 2018 and 2019 and that will see an end to gas transit via Ukraine which is seen as polirtically unstable and therefore unreliable.
am with you,
but the contracts define a spread, based on other factors, price of money, other energy sources & individual conditions.
the contracts can be revisited every year.
Lets see now. We got a piece of paper that is backed by gold. You have a piece of paper. Which would YOU rather trade with?
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/2015/02/20/3691
It would depend on what I can purchase with either piece of crap. So what if you paper is backed by gold if your gov uses capital controls. Did the Germans back thier mark with gold, while they freed themselves from the the money changers hands, no, they people just had to except it, as currency, then watch they .01 % shit thier pants. They do not care what you use as long as they get thier cut. Seriously, I don't see how gold is any better if you have to pay to use it. Right, so what if you get paid in gold, if the king, or the people, take 90% to pay for the shit they can't afford.
It's ok to make money, lots if you can, as long as you can buy shit,for fair prices, and be honest doing it.
Romania imports only 10% from Russia.
The data is not correct.
What is the source of their remaining 90%?
The Blue Danube .... was blue because it contained natural gas ?
Ukraine, i suppose...
Internal production.
u better ask Reuters and Tyler.
Romania may be a 'basket case' but at least HRH Prince Charles operates a Huge Organic Dairy Farm among other things in the country.
Apparently his swathes of land in the UK are not enough. Much more profitable to pay and feed the Romanian Peasant on top of the attractive EU subsidies and tax breaks.
Europe isolated Putin in much the same way Poroshenko made a planned withdrawal from Debaltsevo.
Reuters is such a Globalist Shill news service... a 'strategic natural gas partnership with Ukraine??" HA! The only gas Ukraine gets is what it can steal out of the Russia to Europe transit lines that pass through the Ukraine which.... oh yeah,... btw.... is at WAR!!!!!!
And their is that famous old Jingle: "Calling Reuters Rooter... and away goes the truth down the drain, Reuter Rooter!!"
Rebuild coal fire power stations in the east (Poland, Czech), and let Chinese levels of smoke flow east and melt the kremlin.
The 'strategy' has already been determined for the EU by Gazprom...
The southern half of Europe will get all their energy through Turkey, as the main wholesale and transit hub of all things, including Silk Road goods. Ukraine is being 'phased out' and 'erased' from the transit map, as soon as the pipes and routes are built, according to Gazprom's Miller.
The North will continue to get energy direct from Russia, because its the cheapest, and much cheaper than pumping up from Turkey or building LNG infrastructure and ships for Northern supply, from the US or Middle East, making it way too expensive an option in both capital outlay and energy unit costs, with such lovely, cheap and simple energy, already piped from a reliable source. The Russians reliably piped energy to Europe even during the Cold War.
I wonder how far along the process Greece and the other EU countries are in creating the necessary infrastructure, or are they expecting to bluff Gazprom into continuing with Ukraine? Perhaps they think Russia is as easy to manipulate as Greek politicians - maybe they are? I guess we shall have to wait for 2016, to find out what the energy and trade map is shaping up to look like.
Europa can start looking for energy sources elsewhere. Russian gas and oil will go to China in the future, so that old, worn and torn whore Europa better start looking for new business partners. Russia does not need that old whore, the whore needs Russia. Needs to be said though, the whore will have a high time finding cheap gas elsewhere, for there simply isn't any source for the magnitude of the whore's needs anyplace else in the vicinity; and as we all know, the further the souce from consumer, the higher the price is. The old whore lost! It will shiver first, and then fade and wither like all old whores must in the end. :)
So is China a house of cards or not? All these ZH artciles contridicite each other....if it is about Russia and China then China will give Russia everlasting wealth....if it is about Global GDP than China is nosediving....
You won't be giving anyone anything anymore, libtard. Nor does anyone need anything from you (except degenerates of course). Western time is finally over, God bless its end! We endured way too much of you since WW2. Hopefully we shall never have to endure Western parasitism, degenerations and transgressions ever again, and I think we never will. That is something to be cheerful about... at least. Nazis came and go, Communists came and go, and now... finally... your time is nearing its end. You too will be gone soon. Chinese are much more moral and righteous people than you Westerners, so we non-Westerners are all looking forward working&living with them. You lost youself completely. And how could you not considering how stupid, immoral and degenerate you libtardic Western breed of idiots are: you corrupt everything that comes in contact with you. You libtards will have to be dealt with in the end, for none will have the will to endure or tolerate your corruption anymore. But all that aside, try making some sense first in the future. I sense immense ignorance and confusion in you.
Ah, we can enjoy the slow death of that old hag finally! :) The hag miscalculated thinking it is so precious and irreplaceable because it is Russia's biggest business partner at the moment. Well you won't be for much longer, old hag! There are many other places in the world that requires energy, and you will learn that soon enough too! The hag will learn it has nothing to offer anymore, that her prime has long passed and now is nothing more than worn-torn, spoiled old whore. Only the old arrogance is what has left of the hag. That will go soon too.
the conflict is Ukraine and Russia knows what the land is worth
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I don't know why "gangsters" can run any country
Until the Qatar gas pipeline gets built - assuming Syria's Assad can be replaced with an obedient puppet - the EU is partly at the mercy for gas from Russia, so any such change in 'terms of supply' relationships will need to be agreed with Russia. The EU-crats seem to ignore this small point.
Great Video by Artem Grishanov: Defenders of the Fatherland / War in Ukraine, with English subtitles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iypMGQs490
On a lighter note...
According to a member of the opposition party in Kiev parliament dominated by the military junta, even without the civil war 90% of Ukrainians will die of "austerity."
Tyler, why do you feed in REUTERS propaganda?
Typical EU policy - ignore the reality of actually producing something - and instead try to pass laws to make things 'fair'
Even Nicaragua fulfills it's banana orders .... who else is Russia going to sell to .... they can't eat all their bananas .... we have them over a barrel .... we are the advanced consuming nations of the world .... life is good !
Many Russians still cook and heat with wood stoves .... they throw their egg shells behind the stove .... it's too cold to go outside .... they are in a perpetual state of carbon monoxide poisoning !
As soon as conditions are right, the EU will consider reframing the energy relationship with Russia based on a level playing field in terms of market opening, fair competition, environmental protection and safety, for the mutual benefit of both sides," a draft of the Energy Union Package seen by Reuters says.
Ha! When has their ever been a level playing field between energy producers and consumers? Russia priced nat gas to the Uke at ridiculously low levels and the Uke scoffed at them, refusing to pay. I think Russia has its fill of "level playing fields" and will do what's right for Russia, the EU and US be damned.
"Ridiculously low levels"
Supply and demand set the price. Production costs be damned.
Russian energy has leaks everywhere. The Russian siloviki are skimming off the top. Local people are skimming profit.
All this works when you are in a centrally planned soviet economy and have no choice...
But Russia is not the only energy producer in the world,..
This is why Russia needs to militarily control the black sea basin. Socially it cannot operate the energy business efficiently. It has too much graft at all levels of the business,
Russia knows that if it has to compete on price with the North Africans or the Gulf countries it will lose.
So Russia seeks to remove customers' options to deal with lower-priced competitors.
The great irony for Russia is that it's great 'ally' China knows this, and is doing all it can to encourage Russia to militarily commit itself in the West. And China has established great interests in energy supply from sparsely populated Novosibirsk.
On a related note... you notice that the Chinese Army has been talking loudly about fighting the US...but quietly increasing presence in XinJiang and Gansu provinces??
Sure, when asked they say they have a muslim extremist problem there... But that problem has been there for most of the last 1000 years. Why all the recent activity?
I am certain that the Chinese, due to the recent energy agreements, will be very glad to help Russia by militarily protecting Novosibirsk while Russia is busy in Europe.
Russia will destroy European delivery system .... and build new mega-pipeline to China .... life is good, Vlad .... reality is a bitch !
Russia = Wiley Coyote
what are you doing to that guy?
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Typical ZH crap. Finland is not really needing Russian energy so much like in picture.
Can't we just use some of that directional drilling from Eastern Europe to get some of our Fracking gas???
My thinking and it seems most likely, as it benefits the US and it's allies is: Let Russia do as it may about oil and gas for now, but their needs to be competition in the future. The US is overburdened with an excess of supply, therefore US will supply Europe LNG at a faster rate like 24/7/365 to alleviate the excess here and put the LNG or its gaseous counterpart in storage there in underground storage, which allows usage as needed. The US is watching out for it's petroleum companies and its farming industry also, by moving into Europe's breadbasket in Ukraine, so it can Sow up its rich farmland using US GM seeds and US produced farming equipment, eat your heart out China and Japan. Is this a conspiracy or good business? that is the question as Shakespeare so adequately put it. If so many Human lives were not at risk than let the economic wars continue as the winner is the consumer who gets more bang for it's Euro, if there is competition. For the resource supplying nations, they had better have a second method of keeping lots of people occupied with jobs or cell phone activity. All the while Russia is using it's precious rubles for military purposes and letting it's business environment flounder, which assures it of a bleak future when oil and gas are in less demand. My advice, to my forefathers homeland, is build up your farming equipment industry and resource development tools to compete with the US where you costs are much lower and price is in your favor, if you can keep corrupt people out of those businesses and use more technically knowledable people to run your industries. Of course it is easier said than done, but at least have a target that is worth aiming for. Also we need to run all the war mongers out or town or office, as they can only see the money produced and not the splattered bodies who paid the true price of "trust your government".............. (Zero Hedge needs a spell cheekier!!!)
I overlooked all the nations who are defense weapons suppliers. Since there are no offensive weapons anymore, then let those businesses die!! Stirring up nationalism and discontent about ones neighbor is all it takes to get a new weapon contract or "gift" which implies dependence and future maintenance sales and profits. Example: the Printer manufacturer routine where printers are sold at cost to make the buyer its slave to very expense inks! which the printers are useless without. The weapons industry is bigger than any other of this world, what does this say about us, are we really human or still fearful animals?
It's all a shitsandwich no matter how it ends up & none of it's good. Russia has the most Geo Resources as Sir Harford MacKinger's Pivot of Power said in 1904. So now the psychopaths say to be a memeber of the EU they are going to snub Putin who holds all the cards to heat their homes at a discounted rate. So now we are going to alienate sanction Russia & isolate the hand that heats us ? The stupidity of the Corpocracy, it burns. I love the smell of Austerity & Tyranny in the morning...NOT !