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The "War On Terror" Turns Inward – DHS Report Warns Of Right Wing Terror Threat

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Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

What you are about to read from CNN is just the very beginning of the intentional demonization of a growing segment of the U.S. population that rightly believes the government is run by a collective of thieving, corrupt, immoral sociopaths. This isn’t speculation either, years of content on this site serves as definitive proof that this is true. Commingling dissent, violence and “right wing” ideology will be key in the ultimate division of government critics in these United States, and a successful attempt to scare people away from questioning a clearly degraded and parasitic status quo.

The writing has been on the wall for many years, and I’ve warned about this development on many occasions (links at the end). If Martin Armstrong’s model is correct, and the U.S. economy starts to move downward in fall 2015, dissent will spread across the land like brushfire and the status quo will call dissenters terrorists (they already did this during Occupy Wall Street). My advice to everyone listening is don’t fall for it, and instead unite together in order to achieve a peaceful societal and economic paradigm shift.

Sure, there will always be Neo Nazis and genuine racist crazies out there who hate the government merely because they are small-minded and filled with hate, but they are a small number compared to those who have genuine grievances against the system which are not being redressed. Stories like the following are pure government propaganda and are guaranteed to increase exponentially in the years ahead.

From CNN:

Washington (CNN) They’re carrying out sporadic terror attacks on police, have threatened attacks on government buildings and reject government authority.

Notice how CNN commingles violence with “rejecting government authority.” This is intentional, and meant to subliminally link the two ideas in the minds of the feeble minded who still get their news from CNN. In reality, there is no such connection. Conversely, this country was founded on the idea that a people should only submit to government when it working in their best interests. The first paragraph of the American Declaration of Independence is explicit:

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

Incredibly, this sentiment is now being associated with terrorism. Back to CNN.

A new intelligence assessment, circulated by the Department of Homeland Security this month and reviewed by CNN, focuses on the domestic terror threat from right-wing sovereign citizen extremists and comes as the Obama administration holds a White House conference to focus efforts to fight violent extremism.  

Some federal and local law enforcement groups view the domestic terror threat from sovereign citizen groups as equal to — and in some cases greater than — the threat from foreign Islamic terror groups, such as ISIS, that garner more public attention.?

 

The Homeland Security report, produced in coordination with the FBI, counts 24 violent sovereign citizen-related attacks across the U.S. since 2010.

The government says these are extremists who believe that they can ignore laws and that their individual rights are under attack in routine daily instances such as a traffic stop or being required to obey a court order.

 

While groups like ISIS and al Qaeda garner the most attention, for many local cops, the danger is closer to home.

 

A survey last year of state and local law enforcement officers listed sovereign citizen terrorists, ahead of foreign Islamists, and domestic militia groups as the top domestic terror threat.

 

The Homeland Security report’s focus on right-wing terrorists is a subject that garnered political controversy for the Obama administration in the past. In 2009, a Homeland Security report on possible recruitment of military veterans by right-wing militia groups prompted an outcry from veterans groups. 

Importantly, the report emanates from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), a bloated, ineffective, pointless and dangerous agency. Vox recent wrote an excellent article on the topic. Here are a few excerpts:

This hasn’t stopped DHS from trying to develop its own security capacity. It just means that whatever DHS does is already being done elsewhere in the government. And that duplication and fragmentation has made the national-security apparatus even harder to manage.

 

Take the example of equipment grants to state and local law enforcement. There were already two different federal programs to help police departments get equipment: the Department of Defense’s 1033 program, which sends out surplus military gear to law enforcement (and requires they use it within a year), and the Department of Justice’s Byrne grant program. But DHS now has its own set of grants to allow police departments to purchase military and other equipment. It’s supposed to be used for counterterrorism, but (just as with the other grant programs) police often end up using the equipment for routine drug enforcement.

 

And as a recent White House report pointed out, having three different departments giving resources to local police has made it harder to track how those resources get used. If the Department of Justice, for example, finds out that a police department has been misusing funds or violating the constitution, it can cut off DOJ grant money — but the police department can turn around and apply for help from the Department of Defense and DHS.

 

Or think of “fusion centers,” regional hubs supported by DHS to share information among multiple federal agencies and between state, local and federal law enforcement. The fusion centers aren’t limited to sharing information about terrorism (they’re also supposed to monitor other types of crime), but it’s definitely a big component of their mission. The problem is that the FBI already has Joint Terrorism Task Forces to investigate terrorism, and Field Intelligence Groups to share information about it. In a 2013 study, the Government Accountability Office looked at eight cities, and found that the fusion centers in all eight cities overlapped at least partially with the FBI’s counterterrorism work — and in four of them, there was nothing the fusion centers did that the FBI wasn’t already doing. (There are also other things within DHS that overlap with fusion centers’ other purposes.)

The DHS is an agency looking for a problem. Which is why it had nothing better to do last year than raid the makers of women’s world series underwear. Recall: “War on Terror” Targets Underwear – Department of Homeland Security Raids Maker of Unlicensed World Series Panties.

We simply don’t need it, and the longer it exists, the great threat to liberty it will become.

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For related articles, see:

Eric Holder Announces Task Force to Focus on “Domestic Terrorists”

Rep. Steve Cohen Calls Tea Party Republicans “Domestic Enemies” on MSNBC

New Hampshire City Requests a Tank to Deal with “Domestic Terrorist” Groups Like Occupy Wall Street and Libertarians

The New Orwellian Term for Americans that Disagree with Government: “Paper Terrorists”

It’s Official: The FBI Classifies Peaceful American Protestors as “Terrorists”

 

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Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:06 | 5810887 Latina Lover
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What good is the DHS if there isn't an internal threat, ie anyone who hates banksterism?

USSA must create enemies to justify elimination of the Bill of Rights.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:27 | 5810968 Yen Cross
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 Lets conflate the constitution, and the "Bill of Rights" In GOD I trust!

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:32 | 5810995 Ignatius
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Completely predictable.  Why 9/11?  This is why, foreign and domestic control, etc..

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:36 | 5811009 knukles
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We've always been at war with ourself

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:40 | 5811027 Pinto Currency
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Rothschild syndicate operative 'Colonel' Edward Mandell House published a book in 1912 called Phillip Dru: Administrator.

Here is a desription about the plot - we can see it coming to America with a Western-based revolution against the banking establishment in the East. 

"In 1912, House published anonymously a novel called Philip Dru: Administrator, in which the title character, Dru, leads the democratic western U.S. in a civil war against the plutocratic East, becoming the dictator of America. Dru as dictator imposes a series of reforms which resemble the Bull Moose platform of 1912 and then vanishes." - Wikipedia.

 

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:53 | 5811080 Unix
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One word....

 

Illuminate

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:34 | 5811185 Anusocracy
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This is why I support panarchism, the concept of treating political beliefs like religious beliefs and an individual's choice.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:47 | 5811212 DJ Happy Ending
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I almost don't blame the politicians, they are merely opportunists, the best.

I blame the people for giving up their birthright. Fucking dipshits.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:59 | 5811229 Anusocracy
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Rulers are no more than parasites that Mother Nature has cursed us with.

They are the black hole to civilization and progress.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 06:02 | 5811480 GetZeeGold
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It's on like Donkey Kong....

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 06:48 | 5811499 new game
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d j , following your logic- majority of our friends, family,neighbors and others are the enemy for being stupid or uninterested in what controls their life or is about to change their life from rossey possey to a limited enjoyment life. i agree! about 1/10 or less of the population have a clue in merica. scarey to think 9/10 of the people you see today don't know anything about money creation, msm control, and basically their life is one big lie/control experiment by gov.org influence, from education to politcal party bullshit! just unbelievable so few people can think critically and be controlled by their own actions...

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 08:52 | 5811596 negative rates
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Somebodys going to be messed up if that fall crop don't come in.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 09:42 | 5811643 N2OJoe
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They're preparing for war against YOU regardless of your self identified political affiliation be it Left, Right, Center or anything that is not sheeple.

Shouldn't you be doing likewise?

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 10:47 | 5811757 TeamDepends
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Why do you think they called it the Patriot Act?

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 16:26 | 5812793 Four chan
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false flag planted on the militia, on the latest episode of "blacklist" they tossed around

survivalists and militia ect.. as the bad guys. i expect another fema attack like

waco, ruby ridge, okc or sandy hook. makes me wonder, who are the real enemies of we the people?

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:41 | 5811270 Paveway IV
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"...My advice to everyone listening is don’t fall for it, and instead unite together in order to achieve a peaceful societal and economic paradigm shift..."

Mike, you're a good guy but this time your sophomoric united passive resistance advice SUCKS! 

Pay the fuck attention to what the IDF taught the DHS about counter-terrorism: the very next step after demonizing the targeted enemy is to plant highly visible provocateurs in public to repeatedly reinforce that narrative in the media with as much imagery and word re-definition as possible. Little false flags, over and over and over again. Brainwashing the sheeple by droplets.

It's God damn Goebbels 101: plant the fear of scary extremism in the sheeple and then make sure as hell that it happens, that it is immediately associated with the targeted enemy and, most importantly, that everyone repeatedly sees this association at least every few weeks (more often if possible). They don't give a fuck about influencing you or your cause - you're just the targeted enemy. They want to control the sheeple stampede that they are creating, not control YOU. You're awareness or resistance is meaningless.

What's your strategy going to be when they get the sheeple to stampede? Accuse them of using agent provocateurs to execute false flags? How has that worked out for anyone so far? 

Stop being stupid and going all Gandhi - it doesn't fucking work if the bad guys are expecting you to go Gandhi so they can more easily control the narrative

Don't be stupid and figure you have time to wake up the sheeple - it's too God damn late and most of them don't want to be woken up right now. 

If you want to do something positive, KEEP exposing the psychopaths for what they are and be prepared to endure the shit-storm that will follow. You have a small window right now that they will damn sure close when they have the opportunity. You're doing a good job right now.

If you don't have an answer, then make sure you educate everyone on why doing the same old stupid shit DOESN'T WORK. Embrace all the past gullibility and stupidity and futile, easily usurped attempts at change - if you don't understand your mistakes and how they're exploited, you'll never learn and never figure out something that works.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 02:52 | 5811341 DipshitMiddleCl...
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Exactly

 

The American people look the other way when it comes to how the Israelis treat the Palenstinaians but little do they know that the Palestianian way of life is coming to America, atleast to the poor areas that are economically devasted.

 

El Bit (israeli tech firm) is building our new age border walls that have lots of high tech sensor technlogy built in.

 

They will be constructed around cities like Saint Louis, MO and Gary, IN in a decades time.

 

My suggestion to anyone out there reading this, in all honesty...leave the USA now before it's too late.

 

Before it's too late to even revoke your own citizenship.

 

 

 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 03:48 | 5811382 Paveway IV
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"...leave the USA now before it's too late."

Fuck THAT. Just like the Palestinians in Palestine, this is my home and my country. No God damn clan of psychopaths gets to declare themselves the law and take my property or my rights away from me no matter what flag they're flying. Molon Labe!

Besides, this is my mess - I'm personally responsible for it. Kind of rude to kill all the original inhabitants, trash the place and then bail out because some privileged, arrogant fucks tricked me into giving them all my money and rights. I might be gullible and stupid, but I'm not a irresponsible coward. If this place goes down in flames, I have nobody but myself to blame. And Canada, too... I blame them.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 04:14 | 5811398 DipshitMiddleCl...
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Look man, im going to keep it real as hell with you.

 

I'm Jewish and I do not support Zionism but I promise you that these people are coming for you and your ilk and they are NOT GOING TO LET UP.

 

I am not saying this to make myself feel better or spew any Ashkenazi Elitism, im saying this as someone who knows better.

 

Most of the "oath keepers" are dumb ass irish bugs from the south, mid west and west coast areas and while i respect their courage, they are no match for these soviets.

 

they will be disposed of VERY quickly and efficiently.

 

 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 05:04 | 5811445 Paveway IV
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I respect your opinon, DMC, but I'm still not going anywhere. Of course they're eventually coming for me and my ilk - is that suppose to be news? 

Coincidentally, I just saw another impassioned warning from another jew (a Palestinian jew, no less) today: Eran Efrati.

I can't stand long videos, but ended up watching all 40 minutes of his on Saker NZ. Nothing really new or remarkable information-wise, but I was struck by how intense this guy was. He left Israel after his stint in the IDF because of the utter immorality of Israel's actions in Palestine. Now his country is seriously fucked up and I don't fault him for leaving. But the video is of him talking to an audience in the U.S., warning them about what was really happening and imploring them to be on the right side of a humanitarian struggle, not the wrong side.

The U.S. isn't nearly as fucked up and debased as Israel yet - not by a long shot. I have no right to bitch about how bad things are here - my experience is nothing like his was in Israel. It's my responsibility to fix the U.S. before it becomes as bad as Israel. I expect some psychopaths will be furious about that. They're paranoid anyway and won't hesitate to crush any dissenters like bugs. [yawn...] Par for the course. I don't expect them to invite me in for tea. 

I don't need to leave while I still have the chance. The arrogant political psychopaths that fashion themselves the ruling class around here are the ones that should really think about scurrying away to someplace safe while there's still time. The more they drag the U.S. into their sewer, the less I have to lose. 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:12 | 5812115 shovelhead
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Amen, brother.

I'll see you on Lexington Green.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 16:47 | 5812858 Four chan
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thanks to two oceans we can take or leave the worlds drama. im more on the side of leaving it.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 05:47 | 5811468 Element
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"... I'm Jewish and I do not support Zionism but I promise you that these people are coming for you and your ilk and they are NOT GOING TO LET UP. ..."

 

Fair enough, but they do underestimate us, as they have every time in the past. And the outcome will be the same. I like how Deek Jackson put it this week, in serious comedy terms.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJkQb0nuUGA

 

My PC-goaded tollerance is at a rather low ebb for any of these sick people.

 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 09:43 | 5811651 nmewn
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They do underestiimate us.

And I (like Deek Jackson, I presume) hate fucking Catholics like say, Nana Pelosi for being the hypocritical, lying, power-mad biatch she is. Just as I hate Jews like say, Chuck Schumer for being the vile protector of Wall Street crony-socialism and I hate these Muslim assholes, like the ones who shot up Charlie Hebdo.

My PC Tolerance Meter broke years ago ;-)

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 11:03 | 5811784 Element
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People who fuck with other people's heads by design piss me off most, and those scumbags do it more than anyone else. Deek rips better than most, makes more penetrating points in a 2 min video than you'll hear in a year of the 'actual fucking news'.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 06:01 | 5811477 A Nanny Moose
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We Crazy Horsed some folks.

Pacification. Eliminate the warriors first, and the rest fall in line.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 11:43 | 5811862 disabledvet
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That presupposes you aren't creating more warriors.

 

Would appear the exact opposite is true.

 

"Your Warriors are your terrorists" sounds good until you wind up in Ukraine fighting Russians.

 

Suddenly "you become the terrorist and they the warrior."

 

Now YOU get in line....

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 06:22 | 5811493 kingstukie
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Shoe is going to be on the other foot very soon.
As Ernst Zundel, you have a real holocaust coming in the future.

Talk to your elders.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:59 | 5812049 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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of course they are coming to us... we call sin what it is... sabbat zev is not happy about this and in order for their adultery, fornication, sodomy, and usury to be counted as righteousness, they must eliminate those that know better

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:14 | 5811929 Husk-Erzulie
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Hi Paveway,

In reply to 2:48.  You have probably seen this, so for others, I think this speaks directly to your comment. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOqtvJTgRy4

 

This is precisely the type of attitude that as a Darksider you really, really want to crush, and one reason, frankly, that those who choose the dark path can never actually triumph.  It is Very Important to note however, lets be completely honest, that if the people of Novorossiya were not involved in a proxy war, with the support of an interested military super power, they would never be able to support the burn rate of materiel neccesary to succesfully mount this kind of resistance (not to dismiss the bravery and fighting spirit of these people at all, just saying that, should you find yourself on the wrong side of the dark powers with no access to intelligence or resupply, you will be crushed).

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 18:22 | 5813234 Paveway IV
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"...just saying that, should you find yourself on the wrong side of the dark powers with no access to intelligence or resupply, you will be crushed..."

I'm not sure what to say about that. Logically, of course that's true. On the other hand, I wouldn't be here if some old, dead terrorists with flintlocks didn't chose to take on their lawful government: the British empire. France and Russia were supportive from the outset, but the Colonies were ill-prepared for an all-out war at the time. They were just really pissed off and slightly insane - sometimes that's enough. An honest, wooden-toothed commander with a snappy uniform helped too, I guess.

I just think the dark powers are still a manageable disease and there's hope for a return to health. At some point if we do nothing but bitch, we're going to have to consider amputation. We're not even close to that point yet - I just don't want to sit on my ass until forced with that decision. 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 11:53 | 5811884 bigrooster
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"My suggestion to anyone out there reading this, in all honesty...leave the USA now before it's too late."

 

I second the FUCK THAT.  I will stay and die fighting DHS when, not if, they turn on the American people.  This country is not the Federal Government, it is the Constitution.  The Government has forgotten the part about consent of the governed.  The path that we are on is revolution and/or civil war.  Both sides know this and the sheep are in the middle like they always are, unaware of what is coming.

I agree that the false flags to be blammed on right wing guns lovers will only get worse.  Sandy Hook was their master plan and it failed.  The next one will be bigger and much worse.  Be ready for it.

 

"Every man dies. Not every man really lives."

William Wallace


Sat, 02/21/2015 - 14:55 | 5812480 DipshitMiddleCl...
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Like i said..i respect your resolve (and the Oathkeepers too) but truthfully...the IDF and these "defense" firms are training our police force and they WILL out maneuvar ex military because they have better technology and smarter people in charge.

 

The advent of big data and tracking technlogy has turned this country into a algorithmic prison thanks to Google, Facebookm Linkedin,etc and I can say that there will not be much of a "revolution" becaus their stasi technology will crush dissent before it gets too big.

 

 

 

 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 08:25 | 5811564 Fred C Dobbs
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And mention Alex Jones who has been saying for years that homeland security will be turned on the American people by design.  It was never meant for Muslims of any kind.  www.infowars.com

 

 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 10:44 | 5811747 Crawdaddy
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Man things have changed. In 2008 I was ready to wring Alex Jones' neck because of the way he treated that poor little Phillipino girl. http://www.infowars.com/media-distorts-malkin-confrontation/

Now I see that little Phillipino, aka Michelle Malkin, is a hardened propogandist, a willing tool, an agent of the NWO, working for the neocon team. These bastards want perpetual war with Islam as predicted by Freemason Luciferian Albert Pike 150 years ago. They are using manufactured conflict to enslave us all.

But why?

Someone on ZH posted a link to this guy Walter Veith a few years ago. I spent a few weeks listeing to all his videos. He connected the dots between NWO, banksterism, the fake left/right paradigm, Islam, Israel, green energy, Patriot act, etc.. Agree or disagree, it is worth your time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YtM6qtNzLHM#t=...

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:54 | 5812056 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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malkin is a piece of shit that cant tell the truth from a hole in her ass

 

that being said... islam also wants perpetual war with us... time to charles martel this situation then we can have peace.

 

walter veith is informative... think he is connected to seventh day adventists, which were slaughtered along side jews and others in ww2 but no one ever cries for them....

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 19:37 | 5812289 WarPony
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AJ is the pied-piper, controlled-opposition disinformation agent for these NWO psychos.  He will NEVER bash Zionistas and he married a jew (not to be antisemitic, just the fact).  Ever wonder why his shtick is as insightful as it is?  Maybe it's the inside connections with Stratfor (intern/Mossad) or the fact that the ADL plugs him?

And, the timing - he started his radio show in 1996 (remember the Freemen Standoff (1996) where the real-deal Militia showed up and scared TPTB shitless? (edit: BTW, Olson & Southwell were posers and it was Vos and crew (arrived 4/1 and went on Lewistown radio prior) that got the feds to the negotiating table) - PLUS NATIONAL SYNDICATION (Sirius Radio - jewish owned) when six corporations control 90% of the airwaves.  AJ has at least three dozen MAJOR JEWISH SPONSORS.

The lowdown is that TPTB's fake militia boogeymen had been exposed and thereby compromised. "They"went back to the drawing board, tweaked the machine and brought us AJ who isn't saying anything WE aren't already feeding the Utah beast computer in regular conversations and or postings on the Internet.

Sure, he'll rail against the FED, but not against the BIS. He'll talk a big talk, even interview a Rothschild, but NEVER be anything more than a false-prophet rallying point ready to lead his followers off the cliff when the time (TPTB) calls for it.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 14:37 | 5812403 JRev
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When they come to your door to wrest away from you your last vestige of self-sustainability, as is already being done in many parts of the country, that's the time to start shooting, or at least to amass a defensive force, Bundy Ranch style.

If you haven't had them come to your door yet, odds are you're not doing anything they're too scared about. Local food production, energy production, civil disobedience in the form of tax skirting; all "non-violent" forms of Resistance that eventually provoke the beast to thrashing out. Ghandis garner public sympathy, Paines garner public respect. IN THAT ORDER. No Revolution has succeeded without first gaining the hearts (the minds, in this brainless society, are out of the question) of the body politick.

The first part is just as hard as a hypothetical shooting war (if not harder) and few in "the movement" are willing to do it. In fact, I'd say those with the itchy trigger finger are more likely those sent in (or conditioned) to force a narrative, rather than the other way 'round.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 02:26 | 5811317 TheReplacement
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Great idea.  Imagine a despot and a libertarian living side by each...

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 10:01 | 5811676 neidermeyer
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You're obfuscating ,, the BULL MOOSE platform was the first incarnation of liberal progressivism... implementing communism through slow incremental change... "DRU" was a blueprint for their actions ,, you cannot deny that 90%+ of the laws that enslave us are unconstitutionally written by facelass beaurocracies now... "DRU" doesn't vanish ,,, he becomes the machine , the beaurocracy...

 

Philip Dru: Administrator; A Story of Tomorrow, 1920-1935 by Edward Mandell House http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/6711
Sat, 02/21/2015 - 11:50 | 5811867 fleur de lis
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The SPLC creep Mark Potock has sovereign citizens on his list. 

http://www.splcenter.org/sites/default/files/ir_sov_special_report.pdf 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 17:42 | 5813082 RockyRacoon
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Oh, boy! 

Another category for future reference....  "sovereign citizen extremists" is now our home-grown terrorists

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:46 | 5811038 Ignatius
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People refer to the Indians as the "first conquered peoples." 

WE are the first conquered people.  Process that and it all makes sense.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 08:52 | 5811571 flapdoodle
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For those who haven't figured it out yet, the key element of the "right wing" meme is "anti-Jewish" which is of course what the Zionists hide behind to deflect criticism of their beliefs and actions.

Within the narrative that the sheeple are allowed to operate in, the deep state will incessantly repeat that anti-Zionist *is* anti-Jewish

The idea, of course, is to make even talking about the root cause of what is really happening in the world and the US, illegal and "racist". Since the MSM, book publishing, Academia and Hollywood are already under the totalitarian control of the Zionists, the Internet is probably the last bastion of free thinking and the dual-citizen chosenites probably see it as the greatest threat to their consolidation of power.

To be a bit more explicit, the takeover of the US by the international Zionists is pretty much complete, if you haven't noticed. The November 2014 election was perhaps a last, pathetic wimper of resistence in the US which died when Boehner kept his position of power.

If you want to know how the takeover was accomplished, the key, the thin edge of the wedge, was "political correctness". The Zionists made common cause with minorities against the WASP middle class and slowly dismantled WASP institutions - education, marriage, the Church, values, political structures, and the big one, WASP economic livelyhood as jobs have disappeared.

The great irony is that the Blacks, the Feminists, the Gays will all discover that once the Zionists have unassailable control, they will all get thrown under the bus, discarded like used toilet paper. This is already happening with the Blacks - now that Obama has been (likely the last ever) Black President, the Zionist deep state seems to have calculated that its more in their interests to support the Latinos. Too bad for the blacks. It was a nice ride.

The Zionists have been trying to inflate the "right wing" terrorist meme for years (in particular Hillary Clinton), and its importance has gone up to counteract the growing realization among the few sheep that have awoken (thanks to an Internet still beyond the control of the chosenites) to the full extent of what the neo-Con dual citizens have accomplished.

The target is pretty clear, control over the Internet, and perhaps German-style criminal statutes against "anti-Semitism", for example making it illegal to question the 6 million Jews figure in the Holo-hoax.

Personally, I am not anti-Jewish, and greatly admire a large number of them. I am greatly saddened however that other Jews have not policed their own ranks better to resist the chosenites from amassing such power.

The Brave New World/1984 meme is becoming reality before our eyes, and the Zionists are the inner party.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:20 | 5811940 donsluck
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Whatever else you may believe, denying the holocaust is idiotic. The film and personal history evidence is overwhelming. The Americans were overwhelmed with the reality as they liberated the camps.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:58 | 5812065 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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they also helped bomb the supply lines (some assert knowingly) to these camps thus adding to the misery

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:52 | 5812138 flapdoodle
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To repeat Denaliguide1's great saying further on in this thread,

I would rather have questions that cannot be answered, than answers that cannot be questioned.

Sorry, the numbers just do not add up. Divide 6 million by six years, 365 days a year, 24 hours a day and the numbers are just insane, assuming that they did it EVENLY every day of the war, twenty four hours a day, every hour, over the entire six years...

There is a huge amount of evidence that the six million figure is a Jewish meme from a long time before WWII. The Nazis were pretty evil and killed many, many Jews, Gypsies, and Slavs, but the Zionists use the Holo-hoax to justify their killing children in Gaza. No sale here - I'm not buying.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 19:42 | 5813443 Jerome Lester H...
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Let's see...6 years. 365 days in each year. 6 x 365 = 2190 days. 24 hours in each day. 2190 x 24 = 52,650 hours in 6 years. Divide 6,000,000 by 52,650 and you have 113.96. Let's round up and say 114 per every hour of every day over a six year period. 114 x 24 = 2,736 per day. With multiple camps spreadout in multiple countries this does not seem entirely implausible.

Estimated total WWII military deaths of all involved countries?
20,858,800

Estimated total WWII civilian deaths of all involved countries?
27,372,900

Combined total?
48,231,700

How is it that the numbers just don't add up?

The total combined is 916.08 deaths per hour over 6 years.

WWI total combined deaths 16,500,000.

WWI lasted 4 years, 3 months, 2 weeks. 1510 days. 36,240 hours.
455.29 deaths per hour.

US Civil War total military deaths 625,000.
US Civil War lasted 4 years, 3 weeks, 6 days.
1487 days. 35,688 hours.
17.51 per hour

Other wars cited for comparison.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:24 | 5811953 Crawdaddy
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The Zionists are a created entity, using the mask of judaism to cover their tracks. In reality their religion is Kabbalism which is straight up NWO evil. Is it merely coincidental the Khazars in charge of Israel are on the same page with the rest of the NWO? Is it a fluke that the present state of Israel was created by the UN? The idea that the creation rules its creator doesn't make sense to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHgH2aa4RrM

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 14:40 | 5812423 WarPony
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And, the UN charter was written by a convicted commie Alger Hiss.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:57 | 5812063 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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not anti jewish!!! anti talmud and anti sabbat zev.... big big big big big difference....  

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:46 | 5811051 Chupacabra-322
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D. ept.

of

H. uman

S. acrifice

The Criminal Fraud UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. & it's Criminal allfilliates DHS, CIA, FBI, DEA, ATF, DOJ know the jig / Ponzi scheme is up. Now it's a mad dash to PsyOp, False Narrative & Propagandize the sheeple into believing / deceiving that Constutional Republic exists instead of the Criminal Fraud UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. it really is.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:52 | 5811074 Unix
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It's a Banana Republic of America...and by decree I say 'everyone needs to wear their underwear on the outside'

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:51 | 5811057 Yen Cross
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 It's a unique idea/concept. The separation of power.

 Executive, Legislative, Judicial...

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:40 | 5811194 Anusocracy
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You can have a peaceful society without government so why give psychopaths power over your lives and wealth?

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 06:02 | 5811479 A Nanny Moose
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I am in favor of abolishing all forms of human slavery.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:00 | 5811892 sessinpo
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I disagree. The state of man is always war. As with all biological species, the goal achieve the most, competition. I didn't do anything against the virus or bacteria, but it attacked me anyway. Thus you have winners and losers. That isn't capitalistic, though capitalism exemplifies that idea. That's why you have oligarchs.

Even in the most remote places, tribes of people develope a hierarchy (government). And those tribes will war with other tribes that invade their space and become competitive.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:21 | 5811944 donsluck
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Evolution bites, but there it is. No use denying it.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 14:34 | 5812402 Ass Burger
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I disagree. The state of man used to be always war. Unlike other biological species, humans possess reason, and—in order to secure their mutual protection and interests—agree to cooperate and abolish fear of unfair, primitive, tribal practices.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:54 | 5812265 Mike in GA
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"You can have a peaceful society without government..."

Name one.  

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 06:45 | 5811506 new game
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it was

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:53 | 5811079 Bilderberg Member
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Well the left wings get to kill their babies so I can see why they want to focus on the right wingers.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:33 | 5811182 new game
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other side kills everyone else, specially brownies. nice, can i join?

so many enemies and so little time...

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 14:01 | 5812302 roadlust
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For once, the "intelligence service" gets it right.  This country has been threatened by violence from right wing extremists and counter revolutionaries since the Revolution ended. 

From the first Civil War to the KKK to Oklahoma City to the wingnut "army" in the Nevada desert.

They even have their own political party with the "Tea Party" co-opting the Republican Party.  And thousands of propaganda echo chambers from Fox to ZH dominating social discourse.

The US is already in a "cold" civil war between these racist fascists with "heroes" like the mass murderer "American Sniper," and what's left of Americans who believe in human rights and democracy, being played out in every facet of American society.

When it finally turns into a "hot" revolution between the two sides, we'll see who comes out in better shape.  (Hint: The bad guys have more guns, but dysfunctional brains.  It will not end well for either side.)

 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 06:31 | 5811497 lakecity55
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Yeah..I think when Shrub said "They hate us for our Freedoms," we assumed he meant Islamic Terrorists."

Never ASSume!

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 14:52 | 5812460 The Wizard
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"We've always been at war with ourself"

This is so true. It is a battle for the mind wherein the spirit lies.

 Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:41 | 5811023 Pinto Currency
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Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:06 | 5811233 Ignatius
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Here's an article at Lew Rockwell from the guy who predicted this domestic repression in his 1990 book The Phoenix Program.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/07/douglas-valentine/cia-terrorism-broug...

The phoenix has landed.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:27 | 5812069 scrappy
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You are getting closer to the truth mentioning Phoenix. Ancient Egypt is the source of our problems today. The truth is that the cult of Aton (NATO) has been playing us for much longer than you can imagine.

http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.com/chapter-ten.html

http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.com/chapter-forty-one.html

http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.com/appendices-1.html

Seek, and you will find that what we need is the foundation of truth. We must take that step to end this long cycle of evil - created chaos.

A society based on lies will always destroy itself.

What's the opposite of (evil)?

Learn to (live).

The truth will set you free.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 14:18 | 5812357 roadlust
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Anyone who can utter the words "Lew Rockwell" without cracking up should be added to the nofly list. 

Or at least have their own walled off section on the plane.  (With plenty of unfiltered smoking allowed.)

 

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:37 | 5811011 Future Jim
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Based on their actions, the goal is a global police state with one religion, one currency, and no effective critics. For some reason they seem to think that the American people are the last thing standing in their way because we are the last armed citizenry on earth. They see everyone else as sufficiently neutralized and in a holding pattern until Americans have been equally neutralized so that their global plans can move forward safely.

Once one understands this much, everything else makes sense. For example, they need to provoke Americans to start shooting at the government or at each other to justify more police state and disarmament.

Americans don't know their government, media, universities, big corporations, big churches, big health care, and banking are controlled by the NWO, and apparently not all ZHers know that. Instead of hating on Americans, everyone should try to understand how pretty much no one could overcome that kind of mind fuck. It explains what is wrong with the people - everywhere.

One thing that tends to wake people up is the 911 Smoking Gun - WTC7.

Collectivism, democracy and rule of law have failed. We are now devolving back to the rule of man. The only glory possible is not the failed, flawed fatal policies of the past. The only glorious way forward is the Rule of Market.

The NWO didn't feel the need to destroy the British people to overthrow the British empire because there was a lot more trust in government back then, no internet, and no sniper kills at 2000 yards. Also, they were not yet ready to do a mass depopulation back then. People might get a little more angry about something like that, and the internet might make it a little harder for them to control the narrative this time.

Whether or not an armed American citizenry would actually make much difference, the self procl;aimed elite are obviously taking actions that indicate they are very concerned about any kind of resistance from the American people. For example, they target small farms, preppers, gun owners, etc. They are obviously perpetrating false flag shootings and trying to provoke armed conflict to justify even more of a police state and disarmament. They are obviously not taking such extreme measures in other countries because they are obviously not as afraid of those populations.

I can see why others, such as Brits, would claim that guns make no difference and that the NWO doesn't fear an armed citizenry. It would understandably be pretty embarrassing for Brits to admit that they have already been conquered and disarmed by the NWO. Out of such embarrassment, some Brits would thus side against the American people and thereby serve as useful idiots for the NWO.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:45 | 5811037 garypaul
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"American people are the last thing standing in their way because we are the last armed citizenry on earth"

Bullshit. Even Canadians can buy all the LONG guns they want (the ones that are actually effective in a genuine political emergency).

And furthermore, you Americans are bitch-slapped around by your police force in ways unimaginable in the UK, Canada, etc.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:50 | 5811069 Unix
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Many people turned in their guns in the UK and Canada, when the guberment told them too....what the hell are you talking about garypaul??

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:52 | 5811221 Anusocracy
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Future Jim, the horse that the elites plan to ride to victory in the One World Government Derby is the thoroughbred idiot called the US Voter.

Being American is the first definition for dupe in dictionaries.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:07 | 5811241 Unix
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Anus, WTF? are you sure your not the dupe, or dope?

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 03:38 | 5811375 stacking12321
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not quite.

while american voters are dupes, to be sure, the elites won't ride that horse to victory. they'll whip and abuse it to get every last inch they can out of it, but then when it's spent and broken they will get off and find another horse, probably in the east.

 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 07:31 | 5811520 new game
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future jim-creating money for no exchange of labor is the tap root of the problem - bravo for the link that clearly and critically exposes that fact. obvious as it may be it is also obviously inbeded in the system of control and complicated enough so it looses the majority. they just can't imagine how the money they work so hard for could be so evil. and how this corruption eminates from money for nothing. for me i put myself in the basement with a printer and start to think what i could do with that if i could do it 'legally' with impunity of the law and use that illgotten bouty to influence and control the super majority. by self attraction, my club would by its own base of control expand and infiltrate the very fabric of society as evil masked as good and the majority would think nothing of it until it was too late(where we are at presently). cog dis called this the crumble...i call it he enemy within-the fed! and most scarey of all, backed by increasingly moar violence or the threat of-homeland security-as oxyMORONic as it could be...

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:09 | 5811242 garypaul
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What the fuck are you talking about??

When did Canadians have to turn in their guns??

And who are the retards upvoting you (making a false statement) and downvoting me (facts)???

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 07:44 | 5811538 mvsjcl
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I think that the negative voters are saying that the police are pretty effective at bitch-slapping no matter where you hail from.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 08:37 | 5811578 overmedicatedun...
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us .gov and it's owners/traitors have for many years been at work building a population (illegal migrants and H1B visas) (take over of education) (MSM)(news) and destruction of a constitution(free trade and off shoring)..what they are working for is a country of strangers poor and unable to think of common good or have common morals and values no common language or agreed history..look around they did pretty good, NO?

the result is a society that can only be ruled by: fascist communistic dictatorship with oligarchs above it all.

nothing else holds it together. a few of us see it and would do something but then we would be murders and look much like those we wish to eliminate. i am not j corzine. or a h clinton or a bush.

 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 08:54 | 5811598 Rakshas
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.......several amnesties were offered during the implementation of that liberalized clusterfuck known as the long gun registry and yes Canadians turned in all manner of anonymous unregistered undocumented firearms lest they be on the wrong side of a totalitarian edict......

.....for as much as harper is a bone smoker he did keep the promise to get rid of the LGR and since the death of the LGR I've even seen some rather militaristic arms available at the local hardware store complete with 30 round banana clips...... though you would have to remove the tiny roll pin that prevents the follower from travelling beyond the 5 round mark....... but who would ever do that. 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:31 | 5812172 garypaul
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Yes there was an amnesty for ILLEGAL guns, but that doesn't affect all the legal long guns which is the point I was making.

Also, Canada SCRAPPED the long gun registery which is also my point.

And just so that people are aware, 'militaristic' guns with banana clips have always been available in Canada (I remember seeing them in stores even as a little kid, the ones I saw were .223). Once again, facts totally out of whack.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 14:07 | 5812317 roadlust
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The "retards" are the folks who dominate the comments on ZH.  (The pajama party.)  Facts are irrelevant to religious true believers and conspiracy nuts.  They are "smarter" than you.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:56 | 5811091 Renfield
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Upvoted you but I hate to tell you this. Canada is quickly transforming into the broke, parasitic, mini-me of the disUnited States of America, inviting its huge army of cyborg central-bank funded 'cops' in to do their dirty business:

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/sean-casey/border-security-canada_b_3691387...

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/militarization-protests-north-...

http://thewalrus.ca/armed-and-dangerous

From the Walrus link:

<<When political scientist Adam Molnar was working on his doctoral thesis at the University of Victoria a few years ago, he unearthed an unnerving development among Canadian police departments. In the early 2000s, an unnamed source told him, the Vancouver Police Department established what it calls a military liaison unit, or MLU. This elite team coordinated the Canadian Forces troops assigned to the 2010 Winter Olympics, an event with a $1 billion security budget. ... I contacted Molnar, who now teaches at Deakin University in Melbourne, Australia, late one afternoon through Twitter. The young researcher responded almost immediately. Neither the VPD nor the Canadian Forces, he explained, had disclosed information about their joint operations. There hadn’t been public oversight of the unit’s activities, either. The aura of secrecy, he said, should make everyone “sit up straight and ask more questions.” Ask more questions is just what Molnar has done: as he peeled the onion, he discovered that Vancouver’s MLU had quietly expanded beyond its original mandate. In fact, the senior officer who set it up had pitched the idea to other police services, including those in Calgary, Victoria, and some cities in Atlantic Canada. (A spokesperson for the Toronto Police Service, Canada’s largest municipal force, said its 5,500-officer force does not include an MLU.) More troubling, Molnar learned, those assigned to the Vancouver MLU travel regularly, along with other Canadian cops, to a base in Yakima, Washington, where they work alongside members of the US National Guard on urban law enforcement techniques. In effect, the police officers are receiving military instruction. Is this how we want to train those who will come back to patrol the streets of our cities?>>

On the bright side, Canada has a case due before the Supremes late this year, to force the Bank of Canada to resume its responsibility to print Canada's money. It is led by a top Canadian constitutional lawyer, Rocco Galati:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-case-to-reinstate-the-bank-of-canada/54...

I think this case may be a fortunate coincidence with the opening of the yuan trading hub in Vancouver, North America's first trading hub with China. Maybe Canada has a glimmer of hope after all, but certainly not as long as Canada remains the 13th district of the Federal Reserve.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:19 | 5811150 Jack Burton
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Yes, you a right! I live just across the border in the USA. Canada has been becoming a total clone of the USA, in all the bad ways!

Foreign policy and Zionism straight out of Washington. Really is too bad, we always looked across to Canada and wished we could become more like them, I am sorry to say, "Take the border down, except for provincial health care, there is little difference" Police State Canada, and whore to Neoconservative Zionist Washington.

Harper spends so much time kissing Israeli ass, he must be a Rabbi!

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 09:33 | 5811620 oudinot
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Jack you are somewhat incorrect.

Canada in 2003, under the Liberal government of PM Jean Chretien (French Canadian) told Bush,Cheney to 'bugger off' and did not join in the Iraq war.

However, when Stephen Harper current Conservative PM - who was brought to power by Jewish commercial interests in 2006- has greedily drank the USA Koolaid and does whatever he is told by USA/Israel.   

The good news is that Canada is just beginning its delayed 2008-2009 economic nightmare (retail sales fell 2.3% in December, the largest decline since 2009)as oil prices (Canada's exports are comprised of 40% energy ) plummet, and the crazy house prices are tottering before they crash, private debt is higher per capita higher than the American private debt in 2007, such that 2015 being an election year, Harper will get unceremoniously  thrown out and Canada can once again become a semi rational sovereign country.

Anyways, that's my hope.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:21 | 5811260 garypaul
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You guys are right about cocksucker Harper, and those are informative links to police problems in Canada (but notice they travelled to the US to learn their tactics). Still, a pushback effort in Canada would have some chance of succeeding.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 07:40 | 5811535 new game
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i will never go back to canada even as beautifull as your country may be. i rough camp and without a gun in the remotest of remote is chilling. and i am not talking about bears, cougars or wolves. in fact they are my least worry when out and about. i only fear those upright walking bigfucks...

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 09:34 | 5811638 Odegaard Falls
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Are you talking about Sasquatches? Remote camping would involve working, or tourism. As i had been a remote forestry worker for 11 years we fly in, barge in etc.. i am having trouble understanding what you mean? Please define remote camping, like camping in a Winnebago at Walmart parking lot without your guns kinda remote?

 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:31 | 5811272 Dapper Dan
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Short guns are to give you time to get to your long gun.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 14:35 | 5812407 garypaul
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glad to see you enjoy living in Beirut.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 14:46 | 5812445 beaglebog
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I think it's pretty clear that the possession of arms is not a sufficient condition for "liberty", nor even a necessary condition.

 

More important, yet, is the motivation to fight, to resist subjugation.  Nothing trumps that.

 

It's also pretty clear that such motivation is near-absent in the minds of Western populations ... be they American or European.

 

We are born and bred to be shackled.  It's desperately sad.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 17:11 | 5812962 garypaul
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That's exactly what I was trying to say. Using your brains is the most important thing, but...

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:44 | 5811045 Unix
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Damn Jim, you and I should have a beer to discuss this..,I mean we see eye to eye!

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:10 | 5811249 bid the soldier...
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otoh

 the goal is a global police state 

Orwell got some mileage out of 3 separate but equal police states.

You get a lot moar terror per gallon, if there are other enemies terrorizing your citizens.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 15:23 | 5812561 malek
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Jim, drop the WTC7 crap. If people wake up to that, you have effectively bamboozled them, not truly convinced them and that will backfire over the longer term when the pendulum swings back.

Anybody focusing, or putting too much attention, on minute details of 9/11 is only playing into the hands of TPTB that want you to keep your eyes on where the magician wants them to be, which is not on the real deep underlying events. If a tower was brought down by fire, thermite, or explosives doesn't really matter and any exasperated discussion over that plays into the hands of TPTB in a divide et impera way. We know it was brought down, period.

And the real questions on 9/11 are who let it happen, and what was initiated by who in the aftermath with 9/11 as a pretense!

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 08:37 | 5811582 CoonT
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Get enough sheep together in the same pen, and they start to talk tough about the wolves, lol!!!  We all know how this ends, because it's not different this time...never is, eh.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 09:22 | 5811621 ImReady
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Panty raid!!! 

 

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:28 | 5810971 Future Jim
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It's like this:

 


American Progressive Manifesto

It is self-evident that government has the power (or should have the power) to implement any good idea, and that when we are all on the same page, everyone benefits, but now, let’s think for ourselves, and explain why.

Effective government is necessary for the health and prosperity of everyone today and for future generations. A threat to government is thus a threat to the health and prosperity of everyone.

Government has some powers delegated from the power of individuals, such as the power to borrow and spend, and government also has unique powers that may not be legitimately exercised by individuals independently of government, such as the power to kill or to tax other individuals. Government thus has these unique powers, not because they were delegated by individuals who do not possess such powers, but because those individuals agreed to be bound by government.

We know that 97% of individuals, if given the  choice, would agree to be bound by government rather than live without the benefits of government. Every individual instinctively knows that his life without government would be short, nasty, and brutish.

Although we would like to grant the 3% the right to live without government, many of those reactionaries would not get vaccinated, and many more would possess weapons. Therefore, it is self-evident that the health and prosperity of the other 97% dictate that all 100% of individuals must agree to be bound by government.

Everyone must be bound by government at all times, even when they disagree – especially when they disagree. Otherwise, Rule of Law would devolve into chaos and threaten the health and prosperity of everyone. No one can be above the law.

While we Progressives do not always agree with each other, we always accept the authority of government because effective government requires that 100% accept the authority of government. Anyone who does not accept the authority of government is thus a threat to the health and prosperity of everyone.

Some governments have committed atrocities in the past, but we will not let our government commit atrocities. However, individuals and businesses will always allow themselves to be ruled, and thus, if Progressives do not rule, then a worse faction would rule. Any other faction would be less effective and may even commit atrocities, and thus a threat to our rule is a threat to the health and prosperity of everyone. In other words, we are the good guys, in the vernacular, as it were.

Given that we are the good guys, and that we know we are right, then if we think for ourselves, we can deduce many other self-evident corollaries, such as the fact that it is OK to lie to maintain our rule. Such action is not only OK, but it is indeed noble. It is the Noble Lie advocated by Plato.

For all these reasons, it is thus legitimate for progressives to take any action up to and including killing any number smaller than a majority in order to maintain our rule. Obviously, if we had to kill a majority to maintain our rule, then our rule would not have been legitimate. We are people of principle after all.

More important than maintaining our rule is defending government itself. Government would be justified in killing a majority rather than letting anarchy prevail. Then, at least, the surviving minority would have the blessings of government.

More important than maintaining government and defending our rule is defending the future. For example, defending the planet is the most critical element of defending the future, and thus we would be justified in killing all but a tiny remnant of individuals if that were necessary to stop a threat to the planet, such as Global Warming, but of course, if it were possible to save the planet by merely sterilizing (instead of killing) all but a small remnant of humanity, then we would do that instead.

Another threat to the future is bad genes. In order to improve the human gene pool, it could be necessary to kill and/or sterilize all but small remnant of humanity. It should be self-evident that any such eugenics program should begin with those reactionaries who are least progressive.

By now it should be clear that only by our rule can everyone experience the full blessings of government; and though we mean to rule with benevolence, make no mistake, we mean to rule.

 

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:30 | 5810991 LetThemEatRand
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It's like this.  The DHS is against anyone who disagrees with the oligarch control structure.  You are smart enough to understand that true "liberals" are not in favor of an NSA police state.  Or are you snowed by them.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:04 | 5811235 Anusocracy
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Anybody who wants government is part of the problem and because of that, can never be the solution.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:26 | 5811266 Clashfan
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I almost always agree with you, but what is a "true liberal?" I have lots of lib friends who defend the NSA, TSA, or at least look the other way. Lots of Rs, too.

Americans of all stripes are just laying down for all of this. The police brutality is becoming epidemic, and most of the folks I know could care less.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 09:50 | 5811662 robobbob
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classical "liberal"? before the term was hijacked by leftists

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 09:50 | 5811663 Ignatius
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"...but what is a "true liberal?"

The left is labor.  That essential fact has been brilliantly and deviously obfuscated by the explosion of identity politics and political correctness.  The left has thus far been successfully factionalized and divided against itself.  The real left are those who enter the world without a deep pool of capital, save their own skill, hard work, intelligence and initiative.

"Americans of all stripes are just laying down for all of this. The police brutality is becoming epidemic, and most of the folks I know could care less."

Yep.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 10:04 | 5811683 nmewn
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While I agree that may be what it once proclaimed itself to be (the left is labor) that ideal dies soon after "its leaders" assume positions of power.

It always does, power corrupts.

From Stalin to Mao to Hollande to Maduro to Obama, all worker paradises ;-)

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 10:23 | 5811701 Ignatius
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Hey nmewn

Yes, the so-called leadership of the left is routinely subverted, either willingly or unwillingly, wittingly or not.

Not my downvote, BTW.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 10:32 | 5811717 nmewn
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Yes, just as the right can so willingly put its trust & faith in "the state" to protect them from people hiding in the shadows ready to pounce...lol...its how the DHS was born in the first place.

Yeah I know it wasn't you, I've developed a few trolls over my time here and I like the fact I live rent free in their heads ;-)

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 10:22 | 5811697 Took Red Pill
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"Americans of all stripes are just laying down for all of this." You are so right! But more are waking up. Those already awakened need to help spread the truth. We need to stop trying to put each other in a box and labeling them. Right wing, left wing, liberal, conservative, WHO CARES! Sure we're going to disagree on some things. But I think we can all agree that our rulers are out of control! Most Americans are not happy with what's happened to their country. Look at how many voted for "hope & change" in 2008 only to get more of the same. Will it matter who wins in 2016? Bush or Clinton, the result will be the same. The first thing we all need to do is stop labeling each other & unite despite our differences. Our fore-fathers were freedom fighters but would be called terrorists today.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 02:41 | 5811334 TheReplacement
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There are darned few true liberals.  Most "liberals" are just progressives are just marxists.  Sincerely, good luck getting your term back.  I've argued the point here several times - today's liberals are the most illiberal and should be called what they are, tyrants and thieves. 

Words matter.  Liberty (leave each other alone), libertarian (leave me alone), liberal (kill all who disagree)... it just doesn't fit.  Take back the language.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 07:51 | 5811543 new game
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lter-if you were one of them your guiding force would be to concur and divide or divide and concur...you enjoy finding falts, relavant or not, becasue that is you.

your intent seems noble but for some reason you would make a terrible leader. you have a way of pissing people off. just your nature. but you get it. maybe i'm like you:)

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:34 | 5811988 Calmyourself
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LTER know any TRUE liberals that run in Washington circles?

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:54 | 5812058 Meta_Consciousness
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You just want a badge.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:32 | 5810997 Unix
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Progressivism is the scourge of America!

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:48 | 5811015 Ignatius
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From a certain angle, you're right.  When you see that shit in the name of 'progressives' captures the dupes and lays the blame and divides -- but is just another tool in the oligarch toolbox -- you get a gold star, not before.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 02:43 | 5811336 TheReplacement
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Fat chance.  If killing most people were someone else's plan people would go apeshit.  Instead you want us to believe their wanting to kill most people is just false paradigm crap?  Whatever dude.  You go live with them if you think they aren't just as much part of the problem as anyone else.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 09:19 | 5811577 Ignatius
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Last paragraph in BigJim's link:

"Although Progressive elites see those dependent on government as useful idiots, they do not realize that they are the useful idiots for a higher elite. nor do they realize that American Progressivism is actually … fascism."

I really don't get your point.

"Personal violence is for the amateur in dominance, structural violence is the tool of the professional. The amateur who wants to dominate uses guns; the professional uses social structure.”  --  Johan Galtung

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:29 | 5810986 Greenskeeper_Carl
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what was it HL Mencken said about parading forth an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary?

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:14 | 5811138 Bossman1967
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Guess all of us that are members of ZH are terrorist. Hmm what I have to say about that FUCK THEM AND FEED THEM FISH HEADS FROM FUKISHIMA

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:02 | 5811232 OLD YELLER
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Why don't people get this?  The time is not so far away when this army of Puke coloured shirts will be nreded, and yes , some people just might take up arms against outrageous fortune and a quietus make! 

The feel ups at the airport are only the begining. The time might come when they'll strip your assets from you right down to your gold tooth!

Cheers!

 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:32 | 5811274 OldPhart
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FBI showed up on my porch for posting the following:

"Who should we kill first, Bankers or Politicians."

Rhetorical question that freaked those cowardly pussies out.  Probably will be back in another couple of weeks since I just reposted it.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 02:51 | 5811340 TheReplacement
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You should repost that progressive/socialist thingy over and over.  Certainly the FBI can then determine you only want to kill most of the world's population instead of bankers and politicians.  Of course I'm only guessing.  Maybe the FBI did round up all the progressives and socialists and make sure the whole world wide genocide thing was really only rhetorical.

Who is on an FBI watchlist, one of us or name-any-socialist?  One has to know that bankers and politicians are excempt because if they were not, we would not have any terrorism worth mentioning.  I wish I could be there the day some low level FBI stooge realizes this and has an "Ah ha, oh shit!" moment.  Sadly, they are paid not to know the truth so it is doubtful they ever will.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 02:36 | 5811327 drendebe10
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Right on!  Make tax paying US born US citizens who fund your jobs criiminals.... that's the way to do it.... 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 03:20 | 5811365 kingstukie
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USSA?

Try Jewnited States.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 05:29 | 5811459 BaghdadBob
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If the Americans that currently own guns ever had any intention of rising up against a despotic government they'd have already done it by now.

Sofa warriors posting on ZH every once in a while with statements such as 'They can try and take my guns' or 'Bullets and Bullion Bitchez' doesn't cut it. They've already got your details (and mine most probably) and you'll be dealt with in good time.

Contrary to many of the statements I've read on here, the U.S. is far from the last country on earth that has a well armed citizenry. Posts like that just go to show how embarrassingly little you fuckwits actually know about the rest of this planet you share. You really should stop watching those Hollywood movies that depict the all American hero coming to 'Save the world'

Looking comfortably from the outside it appears to many of us that the U.S. is already a very well functioning Police State. Certainly much more so than many of the other countries I regularly visit. Whenever I travel to the U.S. and I'm forced to endure the NAZI-esque border security procedures, I can't help being reminded of visits I used to make to the old Warsaw Pact States of the eighties (except without the retina scans).

As proof, all you need to understand is that the NSA (Gestapo) agents currently reading this post already know this to be true.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:06 | 5810889 whatthecurtains
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Washington (CNN) They’re carrying out sporadic terror attacks on police, have threatened attacks on government buildings and reject government authority.

 

You mean that same government authority that is "by the people and for the people."  Yeah count me in.   

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:17 | 5810931 Skateboarder
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This whole gubbamin thing has really gotten out of control.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:27 | 5810967 cherry picker
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They took the ideal and promise of America and smothered it.  Unfortunately too many citizens are buying this bullshit hook line and sinker, but then the average American is not of the same fiber as previous generations that did not have modern conveniences, communications and stuff.  They had to work and survive in different climates and odds.  The weren't cry babies, they rose to challenges, were innovative, creative and small towns and villages stood together.

Look how far America has slipped in world rankings, for quality of life and so many other measurements.

Modernization, urbanization, undermining ethics and morals helped screw up America and it is coming back to bite, even if the DOW goes to 100,000 it is meaningless.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:01 | 5811105 Skateboarder
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Physically and mentally, the world and its people are poisoned more than ever. Every generation worse off than the last. iPad babies, plastic food, convenience beyond humility's bounds. The spirit of man is in peril.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:11 | 5812108 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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i would like to see a correaltion chart plotting time in the bible and the ignorance of the population... i have a feeling it would be quite telling

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 08:03 | 5811551 mvsjcl
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What needs to be understood is that the destruction of America was a controlled demolition.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:10 | 5812103 Mepaulus
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You just summed up the reasons the West could never win a conventional war against Russia.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:35 | 5810943 Unix
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LOL, yeah us conservatives have so much time to carry out terror attacks...we're too busy working to do that crap!

It is the leftists that are attacking police, it's the communists, socialists...and the race baitors!

The freaking hypocricy of it all, fuck em!

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:41 | 5811032 Billy the Poet
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Frein?

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:19 | 5811149 Unix
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Jury is out on that one Billy, I did some research:

he was into guns, was a Serbian re-enactor, smoked heavily, had a good witt, kept to himself

"He had some fairly liberal views, and he had some fairly conservative views. Some maybe were a little farther to the right than what most people would give. ... He didn't follow a line. He was his own person. He wasn't just a cookie cutter of another group or entity. He definitely had his own independent mind-set," Hornbaker said.

 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:47 | 5811213 Billy the Poet
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"Our nation is far from what it was and what it should be. I have seen so many depressing changes made in my time that I cannot imagine what it must be like for you. There is so much wrong and on so many levels only passing through the crucible of another revolution can get us back the liberties we once had. I do not pretend to know what that revolution will look like or even if it would be successful."

 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/11/14/text-suspect-eric-frein-letter-to-p...

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:07 | 5810893 garypaul
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I knew the "Islam" was just a smokescreen to implement this.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:35 | 5810981 Billy the Poet
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Many so called conservatives cheer the War on Terror because they just can't stand ragheads. But their own holy book could have informed them that what they have sown in the process they shall also reap.

The MIC is gearing up to go after rednecks with the same tactics and technology developed  for use against ragheads. And the final act of stupidity will be that if the rednecks try to organize and fight back then TPTB will simply pull off a raghead false flag and the redneck rebels will come running back into the arms of their oppressors.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:36 | 5811007 Unix
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I don't CHEER for any wars...

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:03 | 5811109 Arnold
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Pssst................Jihadi's are very conservative.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:06 | 5811120 Unix
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Oh, the Religion of Pieces, forgot about them, but I don't think that was the reference.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:32 | 5811179 Cornfedbloodstool
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The thing that sucks about Islam is the bending over and smelling feet in the Mosque.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:51 | 5811219 Billy the Poet
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Ignore the man behind the curtain and continue with childish rants against the way people on the other side of the Earth live their lives. All is well.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 09:36 | 5811640 ImReady
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Armageddon Days Are Here (Again) By The The:

http://youtu.be/lel0PzhU6Pk

Islam is rising.... 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:12 | 5812113 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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did you miss the entire old testament or are you one of the dimwits that thinks the new testament voided the mosaic law?

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:09 | 5810901 e_goldstein
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To the .01%:

We hate you for your freedoms.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:13 | 5810914 blindman
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soon to identify the nsa as
the prime threat to home
area security as far as sanctity
has any influence or
relevance;
the moment of bureaucratic
sublimation?

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:15 | 5810923 A Lunatic
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Too bad the MSM is being forced to bury the stories about Oathkeepers beheading peaceable citizens as they go about their daily routines.....

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